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    Shane Ray...

    ...got popped for a DUI and marijuana possession today. He is a top 10 pick on a lot of boards, so expect a few clubs to scramble around at this last minute news.

    What a fucking idiot.

    Also, I have seen a few mocks that show Amari Cooper dropping out of the top 10- do you think the Vikings take him if he is there, or trade back due to the other club's interest in him?
    Men are moved by two levers only: fear and self interest.

    ~Napoleon Bonaparte on Politics

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    If Amari Cooper is there at 11 I think we take him.
    Its more likely he will be gone and we end up taking Kevin White.
    Last edited by RK.; 04-28-2015 at 12:14 AM.

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  3. I would be very shocked if Amari falls to #11 but I just not see him passing any of those 4 teams which are the Jaguars, Raiders, Jets, or Bears

    If Amari do fall to the Vikings and the Vikings do trade down, I would have mixed feelings since they passed up a steal and the best player avaiable
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  4. Quote Originally Posted by RK. View Post
    If Amari Cooper is there at 11 I think we take him.
    Its more likely he will be gone and we end up taking Kevin White.
    I heard a big rumor that the Dolphins wants Kevin White and you know how Rick always trade with the Dolphins in the draft? I bet he will trade down with Dolphins if Kevin White is still there at #11 but if Vikings stays put, Vikings will draft Trae most likely but I would be fine with Kevin White but I think Bears might take Kevin since they traded Brandon to Jets though
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    Quote Originally Posted by MossWilliamsHenderson View Post
    I heard a big rumor that the Dolphins wants Kevin White and you know how Rick always trade with the Dolphins in the draft? I bet he will trade down with Dolphins if Kevin White is still there at #11 but if Vikings stays put, Vikings will draft Trae most likely but I would be fine with Kevin White but I think Bears might take Kevin since they traded Brandon to Jets though
    I watched Spielman's presser, and I am convinced that, barring a Cooper type player dropping to us, we are trading DOWN. As long as we get an extra pick, we are not staying at 11... so I feel a lot more comfortable with our team and its goals. If we DO pick at 11, it will be for a legit stud that should not have been available.

    More and more, I trust the Spielman/Zimmer decision team. I'm not sure how I feel about that.
    Men are moved by two levers only: fear and self interest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by drewlovs View Post
    ...got popped for a DUI and marijuana possession today. He is a top 10 pick on a lot of boards, so expect a few clubs to scramble around at this last minute news.

    What a fucking idiot.

    Also, I have seen a few mocks that show Amari Cooper dropping out of the top 10- do you think the Vikings take him if he is there, or trade back due to the other club's interest in him?
    Good question. I would be OK with drafting Cooper at #11. In my opinion, he's the best WR in the draft. Kevin White is also really talented, but he seems to me to be a late, rapid riser, and I think Cooper has more experience than White.

    However, the best case scenario in my opinion would be to draft Trae Waynes at #11. Put him with Rhodes and you have a great CB tandem for years! If Waynes and Cooper are both gone by the time we draft, I woild support the idea of trading down, getting another pick, and selecting the best available CB (Peters or Jones) or OT (Peat, Collins, or Flowers). Either way, we get a talented player that can help upgrade our roster.

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    Quote Originally Posted by drewlovs View Post
    ...got popped for a DUI and marijuana possession today. He is a top 10 pick on a lot of boards, so expect a few clubs to scramble around at this last minute news.

    What a fucking idiot.

    Also, I have seen a few mocks that show Amari Cooper dropping out of the top 10- do you think the Vikings take him if he is there, or trade back due to the other club's interest in him?
    I would be shocked if he falls to us but that would be awesome. I've seen him mocked in the top 5 more than I've seen him fall to #11...but yeah who knows what those are worth. I would love to get Cooper, but like you said I bet we get a very nice trade down offer if he falls. My guess is we'd take the trade, but I see it as a win-win. I'd imagine a lot would depend on the coaches' confidence in Patterson. I'm a little surprised that Spielman was so open about wanting to trade down. Maybe he's confident that the offers will be there regardless and thinks it's the best way to get a bidding war going.

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    It will be interesting to see how far Ray drops in the draft. Got to be one of the most boneheaded stunts in NFL draft history. It will probably cost him hundreds of thousands of guaranteed money unless a team chooses to overlook stupidity in their picks, which has been know to happen.

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    It has been explained to me that the 5th year price tag DRAMATICALLY drops after pick #10. making #11 very valuable to teams who want to take a chance on a player, but not have to pay through the nose for a sub par result with the year 5 option.

    Also, with such an usual draft this year (last year's top 10 were almost in granite, with only the draft order to be worked out), there are 20-25 players that could go ANYWHERE. Gregory and Ray could go in the top 10, or fall to the second round. THAT, my friends, is the definition of volatility.

    #11 might become the most valuable pick of the draft.
    Men are moved by two levers only: fear and self interest.

    ~Napoleon Bonaparte on Politics

  10. This is not Ray's first marijuana offense. He tested positive in college. He is going to fall. I didn't want him before and I don't want him now.

    Thank you very much!

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