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    Josh Robinson

    Is it just me, or has this guy improved ten fold over the last couple years? I thought he played a great game against Atlanta. I know he gave up completions and what not, but it seemed to me that when he did give up a completion he was right there to make the tackle. In previous years it was a completion, he was al turned around and flustered and hellaton YAC. I've done some bashing of him before, but it looks like he's turning a corner, which would obviously be great.

    Oh, and I love Rhodes' game! He's got all the potential to be an absolute stud!

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  2. Quote Originally Posted by VKG4LFE View Post
    Is it just me, or has this guy improved ten fold over the last couple years? I thought he played a great game against Atlanta. I know he gave up completions and what not, but it seemed to me that when he did give up a completion he was right there to make the tackle. In previous years it was a completion, he was al turned around and flustered and hellaton YAC. I've done some bashing of him before, but it looks like he's turning a corner, which would obviously be great.

    Oh, and I love Rhodes' game! He's got all the potential to be an absolute stud!
    It is called coaching!! And he was not very good last year but he was out of position. He is not suited to play the slot. Zim came in and got Captain that allowed Josh to move back to the cover corner. He is also being coached up from what I have seen this year. Josh had problems turning and running across the field with small, shifty, quick WRs, this year he doesn't have to cover them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tarkenton10 View Post
    It is called coaching!!
    Yes..............we finally got rid of the cover 2
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    Quote Originally Posted by VKG4LFE View Post
    Is it just me, or has this guy improved ten fold over the last couple years? I thought he played a great game against Atlanta.
    Other than the mistake on the wide open receiver for the touchdown pass, which may not have been his assignment, Robinson played pretty well.

    I know he gave up completions and what not, but it seemed to me that when he did give up a completion he was right there to make the tackle.
    He plays closer to the receiver, and he gets better position.

    In previous years it was a completion, he was all turned around and flustered and hellaton YAC.
    Robinson often would get caught out on plays. He went for fakes, did not maintain position, did not get a good read, and he often let the receiver get open on a double move. Basically, he was awful in space.

    I've done some bashing of him before, but it looks like he's turning a corner, which would obviously be great.
    Bashing or criticism? There was certainly enough film to indicate that Robinson, at one time, was one of the worst cover cornerbacks in the NFL. He was an easy mark, and he was often exploited.

    Robinson stepped it up last season when moved from the nickel slot to the outside. This season, he has done even better. I was a doubter, but Robinson is now a capable defender. He is not yet great, but he is no longer an easy mark.

    Oh, and I love Rhodes' game! He's got all the potential to be an absolute stud!
    As long as he plays the ball, he should do fine. I few picks would help his reputation.

  5. Quote Originally Posted by Minniman View Post
    Other than the mistake on the wide open receiver for the touchdown pass, which may not have been his assignment, Robinson played pretty well.


    He plays closer to the receiver, and he gets better position.


    Robinson often would get caught out on plays. He went for fakes, did not maintain position, did not get a good read, and he often let the receiver get open on a double move. Basically, he was awful in space.


    Bashing or criticism? There was certainly enough film to indicate that Robinson, at one time, was one of the worst cover cornerbacks in the NFL. He was an easy mark, and he was often exploited.

    Robinson stepped it up last season when moved from the nickel slot to the outside. This season, he has done even better. I was a doubter, but Robinson is now a capable defender. He is not yet great, but he is no longer an easy mark.


    As long as he plays the ball, he should do fine. I few picks would help his reputation.

    That is where he should be, and that is coaching. Finding the skillset of a player and putting him in a position to succeed. He played outside in college and he does not have great hips to turn and run with quick little WRs in the slot. He also is in bump and run instead of the Tampa two passive alignment. Zimmer actually saved his career because I believe he would have flamed out if Frazier was still with us.

    There s only two things stopping you - fear and common sense!! The Truth you CAN"T HANDLE THE TRUTH!!!!!!!!

  6. Quote Originally Posted by tarkenton10 View Post
    That is where he should be, and that is coaching. Finding the skillset of a player and putting him in a position to succeed. He played outside in college and he does not have great hips to turn and run with quick little WRs in the slot. He also is in bump and run instead of the Tampa two passive alignment. Zimmer actually saved his career because I believe he would have flamed out if Frazier was still with us.
    I don't think Zimmer is real high on him either yet. If keeps playing like he has lately that will all change, but he needs to keep it up.

    And yes, he was never a good match as a slot db. Many hoped that because he was fast and short, that he would excel against slot receivers....guess you call that stereotyping if we want to stay on that theme.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tarkenton10 View Post
    That is where he should be, and that is coaching. Finding the skillset of a player and putting him in a position to succeed.
    I agree. Even so, the best players can adapt to many schemes. Of course, no coach or manager has the luxury of having all better players except the New York Yankees every so often.

    He also is in bump and run instead of the Tampa two passive alignment. Zimmer actually saved his career because I believe he would have flamed out if Frazier was still with us.
    Frazier did move Robinson to the outside after he was a failure in the slot on nickel situations. Zimmer, his staff, and his defensive scheme may be a better overall fit though, and I agree that could benefit Robinson.

  8. Quote Originally Posted by Minniman View Post
    I agree. Even so, the best players can adapt to many schemes. Of course, no coach or manager has the luxury of having all better players except the New York Yankees every so often.


    Frazier did move Robinson to the outside after he was a failure in the slot on nickel situations. Zimmer, his staff, and his defensive scheme may be a better overall fit though, and I agree that could benefit Robinson.
    I agree, but the soft coverage in the Tampa two did not work out well for Josh. Again in soft coverage you have to have good hips to turn and run and if you look at him he is very stiff in the hips. While he may have great straight line speed he can get lost with crisp route running.

    There s only two things stopping you - fear and common sense!! The Truth you CAN"T HANDLE THE TRUTH!!!!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by tarkenton10 View Post
    I agree, but the soft coverage in the Tampa two did not work out well for Josh. Again in soft coverage you have to have good hips to turn and run and if you look at him he is very stiff in the hips. While he may have great straight line speed he can get lost with crisp route running.
    I have not read all of the scouting reports on Robinson, but if that is the case, then your conclusion is valid. I will have to watch for that on Thursday.

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    I guess we are not the only ones to notice.

    Scoggins: Vikings cornerback Robinson removes 'horrible' label

    Josh Robinson probably felt like he wore a prank “Kick me” sign on his back in the past year. He’s been labeled one of the worst cornerbacks in the NFL. His new coach referred to him as “the other guy” when discussing injuries. Media ripped him, fans mocked him, Pro Football Focus shredded him.

    Robinson ... is, without question, the team’s most improved player under first-year coach Mike Zimmer. No longer forced to play out of position in the slot-nickel role, Robinson looks far more reliable as an outside cornerback in Zimmer’s scheme.

    Zimmer, a stickler when it comes to his secondary, sounds like a fan. Now he wants to see more from his pupil.

    “I just want Josh to be a little bit more confident in his abilities,” Zimmer said. “He’s got a chance to be a very good corner if he continues working on the techniques, refining the techniques, understanding the concepts more. But he’s got a chance to be a very good player.”
    Full story here:

    http://www.startribune.com/sports/vi...277688201.html

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