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SharperImage
09-11-2009, 11:26 AM
The cleveland browns will commit to stopping AD. They ranked 28th in run defense last year, and will put 8 men in the box on Peterson.

So I believe the vikings will use chester taylor and Harvin on slip screens, Go deep on the outside to Lewis, and Berrian, or go deep across the middle to Harvin against the rush that they will be getting.


If Loadholt holds up, and berrian plays at full speed, I predict a 3 touchdown game for favre.

SharperImage
09-11-2009, 12:00 PM
*Bump*

ultravikingfan
09-11-2009, 12:38 PM
"SharperImage" wrote:



*Bump*


Bumping a thread a little over 30 minutes after posting screams "I need attention!!!!!"

V-Unit
09-11-2009, 12:45 PM
"SharperImage" wrote:


The cleveland browns will commit to stopping AD. They ranked 28th in run defense last year, and will put 8 men in the box on Peterson.

So I believe the vikings will use chester taylor and Harvin on slip screens, Go deep on the outside to Lewis, and Berrian, or go deep across the middle to Harvin against the rush that they will be getting.


If Loadholt holds up, and berrian plays at full speed, I predict a 3 touchdown game for favre.



I think you are wrong. 8 men in the box is not enough to stop AD from destroying a defense that was ranked 28th against the run. We will shove the ball down their throats until they bend, then break, then beg for us to stop. Favre will not throw more than 30 passes.

Also, there's no way that Lewis can be seen as a usable weapon at this point, and Berrian's status is a huge ?. Long drives, not deep strikes, will be the key to winning this game. We'll break some big runs in the second half.

Marrdro
09-11-2009, 12:45 PM
"ultravikingfan" wrote:


"SharperImage" wrote:



*Bump*


Bumping a thread a little over 30 minutes after posting screams "I need attention!!!!!"

Or you created a thread no one cares about......Guess what my vote is.

;)

JK SI.......

I am a bit tired of the whole "Stacked Box" discussion.
Its as if this is a new scheme, concept designed just to stop AD, when in fact, RB's of lesser quality face it all the time.
Long story short, the only way to beat a stacked box is to block effectively.

As to LNAD and his ability to beat those stacked boxes, I am still not convinced that him being under center will force D's to quit using that concept.
Almost every pass we saw out of him this pre-season was short dinks and dunks as prescribed by the scheme (with one deep ball that was so far off target it was almost picked).

If I was
a D-coord, I would scheme accordingly.
I would focus on stopping AD and worry about the short stuff by keeping the recievers in front of me so that I could keep the YAC to a minimum.

For the Browns..........

Unless we get behind because of turnovers, I look to see alot of AD Left, AD Right, AD off Center mixed in with alot of slants to Percy short, skinny posts by El Syd and Shanc down the middle.

Probably a 15-20 or so for 200 yds.
No TD's and 1 INT.

vikingivan
09-11-2009, 12:46 PM
"V" wrote:


"SharperImage" wrote:


The cleveland browns will commit to stopping AD. They ranked 28th in run defense last year, and will put 8 men in the box on Peterson.

So I believe the vikings will use chester taylor and Harvin on slip screens, Go deep on the outside to Lewis, and Berrian, or go deep across the middle to Harvin against the rush that they will be getting.


If Loadholt holds up, and berrian plays at full speed, I predict a 3 touchdown game for favre.



I think you are wrong. 8 men in the box is not enough to stop AD from destroying a defense that was ranked 28th against the run. We will shove the ball down their throats until they bend, then break, then beg for us to stop. Favre will not throw more than 30 passes.

Also, there's no way that Lewis can be seen as a usable weapon at this point, and Berrian's status is a huge ?. Long drives, not deep strikes, will be the key to winning this game. We'll break some big runs in the second half.


Browns defenders will see alot of#28's backside.

SharperImage
09-11-2009, 12:55 PM
It got buried so fast thats why I bumped it.


I was tweeting with Berrian, he didn't give me a lot of info seeing as he cant, but the way he made it seem, its a toss up if he plays.

The way I see it...Berrian isnt really needed for this game, so if he isnt ready to go, let him sit another week. We can just shove some peterson in their throats, and go up top when they blitz. that should be the gameplan. But like people say, this isnt a gimme game, so we need to be cautious and respect the browns and destroy them like they are the Pats, Bears, pack, colts, ETC..

V-Unit
09-11-2009, 12:59 PM
"SharperImage" wrote:


It got buried so fast thats why I bumped it.


I was tweeting with Berrian, he didn't give me a lot of info seeing as he cant, but the way he made it seem, its a toss up if he plays.

The way I see it...Berrian isnt really needed for this game, so if he isnt ready to go, let him sit another week. We can just shove some peterson in their throats, and go up top when they blitz. that should be the gameplan. But like people say, this isnt a gimme game, so we need to be cautious and respect the browns and destroy them like they are the Pats, Bears, pack, colts, ETC..


Flip-Flop

First you say we will go deep to Berrian. Now you say we don't need him.
First you say the Browns will commit to stopping the run, so Favre will have a big game. Now you say we can just shove Peterson down their throats.
First you say Berrian isn't really needed. Now you say this isn't a gimme.

Flip-Flop

SharperImage
09-11-2009, 01:08 PM
"V" wrote:


"SharperImage" wrote:


It got buried so fast thats why I bumped it.


I was tweeting with Berrian, he didn't give me a lot of info seeing as he cant, but the way he made it seem, its a toss up if he plays.

The way I see it...Berrian isnt really needed for this game, so if he isnt ready to go, let him sit another week. We can just shove some peterson in their throats, and go up top when they blitz. that should be the gameplan. But like people say, this isnt a gimme game, so we need to be cautious and respect the browns and destroy them like they are the Pats, Bears, pack, colts, ETC..


Flip-Flop

First you say we will go deep to Berrian. Now you say we don't need him.
First you say the Browns will commit to stopping the run, so Favre will have a big game. Now you say we can just shove Peterson down their throats.
First you say Berrian isn't really needed. Now you say this isn't a gimme.

Flip-Flop


I hold my right to change my mind. *brett favre*

ultravikingfan
09-11-2009, 01:09 PM
The only prediction you need to know:

Ahem....the Browns flat-out blow ass!

We win!

gagarr
09-11-2009, 01:17 PM
"Marrdro" wrote:


"ultravikingfan" wrote:


"SharperImage" wrote:



*Bump*


Bumping a thread a little over 30 minutes after posting screams "I need attention!!!!!"

Or you created a thread no one cares about......Guess what my vote is.


;)

JK SI.......

I am a bit tired of the whole "Stacked Box" discussion.
Its as if this is a new scheme, concept designed just to stop AD, when in fact, RB's of lesser quality face it all the time.
Long story short, the only way to beat a stacked box is to block effectively.

As to LNAD and his ability to beat those stacked boxes, I am still not convinced that him being under center will force D's to quit using that concept.
Almost every pass we saw out of him this pre-season was short dinks and dunks as prescribed by the scheme (with one deep ball that was so far off target it was almost picked).

If I was
a D-coord, I would scheme accordingly.
I would focus on stopping AD and worry about the short stuff by keeping the recievers in front of me so that I could keep the YAC to a minimum.

For the Browns..........

Unless we get behind because of turnovers, I look to see alot of AD Left, AD Right, AD off Center mixed in with alot of slants to Percy short, skinny posts by El Syd and Shanc down the middle.

Probably a 15-20 or so for 200 yds.
No TD's and 1 INT.


As long as those dinks and dunks move the chains I'm a happy camper.
And by "keeping players in front" that assures the dinks and dunks get first downs.

What I want Favre to do is KEEP DRIVES ALIVE.
50% 1st downs and 70% on 3rd down conversions would be great!
Even if it's a little 4 yard dink, a first down is golden when you have AD/CT.
The more reps AD has the greater the chance of busting the BIG ONE.

LONG DRIVES that wear down their D's, so by the 4th Qtr, they are MUSH and our D is fresh and hungry for QB meat.

Freya
09-11-2009, 01:18 PM
28-21
We win.

erik5032
09-11-2009, 01:21 PM
"Freya" wrote:


28-21
We win.


If we give up 21 points to that shitty offense I will be pissed!

Braddock
09-11-2009, 01:23 PM
"Braddock" wrote:


"Braddock" wrote:


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Bump
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gagarr
09-11-2009, 01:47 PM
"erik5032" wrote:


"Freya" wrote:


28-21
We win.


If we give up 21 points to that poohie offense I will be pissed!


If we can only score 28 pts against a #26 ranked D, I'll be pissed.

SharperImage
09-11-2009, 02:10 PM
Anyone can stop the run if they blitz all the gaps, the only problem with that is your vulnerable to the PA or deep ball. Thats why I think we'll run, theyll stop us, then we'll just start PAing a lot to Shank and Berrian(if he plays).

Desertvikingfan
09-11-2009, 02:21 PM
"Marrdro" wrote:


"ultravikingfan" wrote:


"SharperImage" wrote:



*Bump*


Bumping a thread a little over 30 minutes after posting screams "I need attention!!!!!"

Or you created a thread no one cares about......Guess what my vote is.


;)

JK SI.......

I am a bit tired of the whole "Stacked Box" discussion.
Its as if this is a new scheme, concept designed just to stop AD, when in fact, RB's of lesser quality face it all the time.
Long story short, the only way to beat a stacked box is to block effectively.
As to LNAD and his ability to beat those stacked boxes, I am still not convinced that him being under center will force D's to quit using that concept.
Almost every pass we saw out of him this pre-season was short dinks and dunks as prescribed by the scheme (with one deep ball that was so far off target it was almost picked).

If I was
a D-coord, I would scheme accordingly.
I would focus on stopping AD and worry about the short stuff by keeping the recievers in front of me so that I could keep the YAC to a minimum.

For the Browns..........

Unless we get behind because of turnovers, I look to see alot of AD Left, AD Right, AD off Center mixed in with alot of slants to Percy short, skinny posts by El Syd and Shanc down the middle.

Probably a 15-20 or so for 200 yds.
No TD's and 1 INT.

??? Really it is the only way ever devised to beat a stacked box? I know you are a big "if only the lineman would play better kind of guy" I think there may just be offensive coordinators who are willing to try and beat a stacked box with more than just better blocking. I think it's called the forward pass. Something TJ has had trouble with in the past and something I think Favre will do much better.
That said I believe our O line should be able to more than handle the Browns in the running game and we will pretty much be able to do what we want once that is established. I hope to see Childress open it up in the second half and pour it on.

Purple Floyd
09-11-2009, 07:21 PM
Anybody expecting an all world performance from the offense to start the year will be disappointed. We might put up a great performance against the Cleveland Steamers only because they stink. But Brett got here late and we have too many new faces on the offense and it is going to take the first 75% of the season to get in sync at a minimum.

That isn't to say that the team won't be better with Brett under center. It certainly will, but it won't be operating at it's potential until they get more time playing together.