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ADubya26
02-16-2005, 03:20 PM
Not the most encouraging news to be getting 2 days after he buys the Vikes...

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=1992831

JDogg926
02-16-2005, 03:26 PM
So he padded his resume, big deal.

Anyone that played little league can claim they were in the little league world series, most us just didn't get to the nationally televised point.

As for playing in the NFL, he was cut from Cincinatti, but he was on their roster in training camp. It's not necessarily a lie, but a technicality. Two years ago, I was on the roster for a semi-pro team, the Penn-Ohio Raiders, but I sprained my back before the season started and never played a down. I don't say that I played semi pro football, but my name was on the program.

As for the degree, at least he graduated and got his degree, who cares what it was in. He's obviously been a successful businessman to this point.

Vikadelic
02-16-2005, 03:29 PM
Looks like he juiced his resume a bit. What do you think will happen? Does this mean he won't get the team or is it a mere embarassment for him?

V4L
02-16-2005, 04:16 PM
lol i think its kinda funny

Caine
02-16-2005, 04:21 PM
"Vikadelic" wrote:

Looks like he juiced his resume a bit. What do you think will happen? Does this mean he won't get the team or is it a mere embarassment for him?

It means "None of the above".

Padded resumes are commonplace today. Everyone does it from politicians to hopeful managerial applicants. They don't flat out lie...they merely embellish the truth. Sometimes a LOT.

Of course, I still consider that to be a lie, and I wonder how many more "embellishments" will be springing forth as the next few weeks pass by.

As I said before, the jury is still out on Fowler. If he is able to swing the deal, then commits himself and his resources to fielding a quality team, I have no beef with him. If he winds up swinging the deal then realizes that he's overextended and starts cutting corners (much like the Squirrel lover), then I will begin renaming him and blasting him from one end of these forums to the other.

The ball is - as they say - in his court now. Let's see which way he plays it.

Caine

cajunvike
02-16-2005, 04:37 PM
"Vikadelic" wrote:

Looks like he juiced his resume a bit. What do you think will happen? Does this mean he won't get the team or is it a mere embarassment for him?

It means that he won't have any qualms about rehiring George O'Leary to coach the defense next year! :lol:

cajunvike
02-16-2005, 04:40 PM
"ADubya26" wrote:

Not the most encouraging news to be getting 2 days after he buys the Vikes...

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=1992831

The USFL part is true, though:

ARIZONA WRANGLERS 1983-1984


Roster courtesy of Chris Blackburn

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APUNA, Ben ILB 6-1 222 '83 Arizona St.
ASMUS, Jim P/K 6-2 195 '83 Hawaii
BALHOLM, Neil WR '83 Brigham Young
BANKS, Doug RB '83 E.Carolina
BLEDSOE, Curtis RB 5-11 215 '83 San Diego St.
BLUE, Harold RB '83 E.Carolina
BOATNER, Mack FB 6-0 220 '84 SE Louisiana
BOONE, Jamie DB '83 Miami(FL)
BRADLEY, Luther FS 6-2 194 '84 Notre Dame
BROWN, Eddie FS '84 Tennessee
BUBEN, Mark DT 6-3 260 '84 Tufts
BUGGS, Wamon WR '84 Vanderbilt
CAMPBELL, Todd NG '83 West Virginia
CARNES, Tom G '83 E.Carolina
CASEY, Derrick LB '84 Stephen F. Austin
CATTAGE, Ray DE '83 Washington
CLARK, Allan RB 5-10 186 '84 N.Arizona
CLARK, Calvin DE 6-4 260 '83 Purdue
CLARK, Darryl RB 5-11 204 '83 Texas
CORRAL, Frank P/K 6-2 224 '84 UCLA
COZEN, Doug TE '84 Illinois
DENFELD, Phil TE '83 Wake Forest
DENNISON, Doug RB '84 Kutztown St.
DOUGLAS, Larry WR '84 Southern
DRAIN, Selwyn DB '84 Ball St.
EHRMANN, Joe DT '84 Syracuse
EPPES, Roy DB '83 Clemson
EPPS, Nick DE '84 Illinois
FAHNHORST, Jim ILB 6-4 230 '84 Minnesota
FALCON, Terry G '83 Montana
FIELD, Doak ILB 6-2 228 '84 Baylor
FISHER, Robin NG '83 Florida
FLOWERS, Jackie WR '83 Florida St.
FOWLER, Reggie OLB '83 Wyoming
GHEESLING, Bruce OLB '84 Furman
GIDDENS, Frank T 6-4 300 '84 New Mexico
HALL, Hollis DB '83 Clemson
HARRIS, Ron DB '83 Georgia
HENRY, Wally WR 5-8 175 '83 UCLA
HICKMAN, Dallas DL '84 California
HIRN, Mike TE '83 C.Michigan
HOWELL, Steve RB 6-2 227 '83 Baylor
HUFFMAN, David G 6-6 271 '84 Notre Dame
JACKSON, Fernando OLB '83 Florida
JOHNSON, Randy RB '84 Texas-Arlington
JOHNSON, Trumaine WR 6-1 195 '84 Grambling
JONES, Lyndell DB 5-9 175 '83 Hawaii
JOSTES, Randy DE '83 Missouri
KALIL, Frank G '83 Arizona
KEEL, Mark TE 6-4 228 '83 Arizona
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KIEWEL, Jeff G 6-4 271 '83-84 Arizona
KIMMELL, John ILB 6-4 240 '83 Colgate
KRUGER, Todd QB 6-4 200 '83 N.Michigan
LAIRD, Bruce SS '84 Amer.International
LANDRY, Greg QB 6-4 207 '84 Massachusetts
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LATHROP, Kit DT 6-5 257 '84 Arizona St.
LEE, John DE '84 Nebraska
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LOCKLIN, Kerry TE 6-3 230 '84 New Mexico St.
LONG, Kevin FB '84 S. Carolina
LOONEY, James ILB 6-0 225 '83 Purdue
LORCH, JR., Karl DB '84 USC
MAGEE, Keith WR '83 New Mexico
MANUCCI, Dan QB 6-2 196 '83 Kansas St.
MASON, Mike T 6-7 285 '83 UCLA
MCCORMICK, Glenn C '83 Arizona
MCCOY, Larry OLB 6-2 240 '83 Lamar
MCKALE, Bill TE '83 Hawaii
MEES, Mike P '83 Brigham Young
MELONTREE, Andy OLB 6-4 228 '84 Baylor
MINNIEFIELD, Frank CB 5-9 182 '84 Louisville
MITCHELL, Aaron SS 6-1 196 '83 UNLV
MORGAN, Mike DE '83 Brigham Young
MUESKI, Daryl G '83 Arizona St.
MURRAY, Calvin RB 5-11 185 '83 Ohio St.
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OTEY, Dave C '83 UCLA
PERKINS, Glenn ILB '83 Arizona
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PRESTON, Ed DB '83 Arkansas St.
PRINCE, Chris G '83 Purdue
PURIFOY, Bill DE '83 Tulsa
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RIVERA, Jimmy LB '83 Texas A&I
RYCKMAN, Billy WR '83 Louisiana Tech
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SHIELDS, Lance CB '84 Drake
SMITH, Ed OLB 6-2 217 '84 Vanderbilt
SMITH, Mike WR 5-10 194 '83 Grambling
SPENCER, Tim RB 6-2 224 '84 Ohio St.
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STRANDBERG, Al LB '83 Moorhead St.
STROTH, Vince T 6-4 267 '83 Brigham Young
SULLIVAN, Gerry C '84 Illinois
TARVER, Marcus LB '83 Hawaii
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THAYER, Tom G 6-4 271 '84 Notre Dame
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TOLBERT, Mark WR '84 Cal Poly-Pomona
WALKER, Eddie Ray CB '83 Southern Miss
WALTON, JR., Ted CB '84 Connecticut
WHITE, Stan OLB 6-1 224 '84 Ohio St.
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WILKINS, Joe LB '83 Maryland
WILLIS, Lenny WR '84 Ohio St.
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WILSON, Lee DB '83 San Diego St.
WILCOX, Tommy FS '83 Alabama
YOUNG, Wilbur DT '84 William Penn
ANDERSON, Gary OL

Del Rio
02-16-2005, 04:43 PM
Looks like the dirt that is being stirred is from an Earlier Biography that who knows when was written.

So something like this happened. X ammount of years ago he is writing a biography his life is a little plain compared to other rich bastages to he makes some stuff up.

2005 he wants to buy the vikes. He pretty much seals the deal. The media is like WTF is this guy? Media boss says learn all you can about Fowler so we can write a story on him.

Media grabs his bigraphy reads it.

ESPN: Today we announce the sell of the Vikings to Fowler. He played for the Bengals for a short period of time yada yada yada.

Press conference: Mr.Fowler do you think your time in the NFL as a player will help you run the team? Mr. Fowler do you think your buisiness degree will help you out running the team?

Fowler : Son of a bitch! Where are they getting this stuff!! Oh hell my bio damn it.

Next day PR for Fowler sends out an updated fact sheet. To avoid issues in the future.

This isn't an issue in my opinion. It would be a different story if Fowler said all this stuff in an interview yesterday but this is just someone trying to gain backround on him from his biography and him immediately putting any inconsitencies to rest.

VikesFan111
02-16-2005, 04:46 PM
This is ridiculous...this whole offseason has been just a bunch of drama.

ADubya26
02-16-2005, 05:06 PM
I know its probably not a biggy, but that atricle kind of irked me a little.

I hope this article isnt reflective of his presonality. We dont need a cheap owner followed by a bulsh*tter, thats for sure.

The things in the article are quite petty though, and if he has anything substantial "hiding in his closet" im sure the league will find that out in weeks to come.

bart
02-16-2005, 05:23 PM
For some reason I keep thinking of the Titanic, I don't really know why.........

ultravikingfan
02-16-2005, 05:25 PM
What do you expect? He earned his money in car dealerships, like Red!

MN_Jet_Fan
02-16-2005, 05:30 PM
Might raise some red flags after the botched Islander Sale of years back (the guywho said he had $$$ but was a con artist).

As for his major, or whether or not he enrolled in an MBA program, it's irrelevant. If he truly built Spiral, inc from the ground up he's plenty qualified.

cajunvike
02-16-2005, 06:04 PM
"MN_Jet_Fan" wrote:

Might raise some red flags after the botched Islander Sale of years back (the guywho said he had $$$ but was a con artist).

As for his major, or whether or not he enrolled in an MBA program, it's irrelevant. If he truly built Spiral, inc from the ground up he's plenty qualified.

Let's just hope that this doesn't go into a DOWNWARD SPIRAL!

Bdubya
02-16-2005, 06:13 PM
I don't care. I honestly do not care one way or another. Just give him the team, and lets move on.

jackyl
02-16-2005, 06:13 PM
"cajunvike" wrote:


Let's just hope that this doesn't go into a DOWNWARD SPIRAL!


LMFAO :lol:

ajefx
02-16-2005, 09:09 PM
You know, if this guy didn't play in the little league WS when he was a kid, I just don't think he's qualified as an NFL owner.

V4L
02-16-2005, 09:35 PM
lol i find this hilarious.. he did play in the minor football league tho i heard didnt he?

ultravikingfan
02-16-2005, 09:36 PM
"ajefx" wrote:

You know, if this guy didn't play in the little league WS when he was a kid, I just don't think he's qualified as an NFL owner.

Good post!!! :cheers:

shockzilla
02-17-2005, 10:24 AM
The more I read about Fowler, the less I like and the more I worry...

See the story link below:

http://www.kare11.com/news/news_article.aspx?storyid=75618

There's something about this guy that makes me think he's NOT representing himself well...

Del Rio
02-17-2005, 10:28 AM
The way I see the series of events that could have made this come about makes me respect his ability to nip this thing immediately.

shockzilla
02-17-2005, 10:33 AM
The problem is, he LIED - he let this so-called publicity firm put this information out...

Del Rio
02-17-2005, 10:51 AM
I'm thinking we would be hard pressed to find an owner who has never LIED.

The media didn't know who this guy was they looked at his biography which was written a while ago before he was purchasing the Vikes.

They questioned him about his past by refering to the Bio.

He realized it was wrong, quickly addressed the issue before it became a vast conspiracy.

Now personally I can see and understand why some people may be offended that this guy "lied" But to me I honestly could care less. I don't really care if he supports stem cell research either. To me a fan all I care about is what he will do for the team I enjoy watching. If he improves them then I like him.

V4L
02-17-2005, 10:52 AM
i just want a new owner.. its not a big deal if he didnt play for the nfl or anything.. altho im kinda thinkin he might think ppl will let this slip

XTAP59
02-17-2005, 11:00 AM
I don't a big deal here. His PR machine is just trying to pump him up.

shockzilla
02-17-2005, 11:08 AM
MY deal is this - it's his FIRST IMPRESSION, and it's NOT a good one...

cajunvike
02-17-2005, 11:17 AM
The jury is still out...he still has to pass muster with the other owners...I hope that he has the sufficient funds to improve this team if he acquires it...and I most certainly hope that the owners don't fall into the PR trap of having "the first African-American owner" at OUR expense. I want an owner who has the resources and willingness to spend those resources to make us winners...if Fowler is that man, welcome aboard...if not, NEXT!

DemonicViking
02-17-2005, 11:30 AM
I don't know, it sounds as if it was a mistake on the part of someone else as far as that bio goes.

JDogg926
02-17-2005, 11:32 AM
Although some people may view him as a lesser of two evils, I support him and hope everything goes through welll.

Ownership change is a huge step in the right direction, and regardless of his first impression, the man has been a successful businessman, and he understands the game of football.

We'll all be laughing about this next February when he is the owner and we're playing in the superbowl!!!

DemonicViking
02-17-2005, 11:34 AM
And celebrating a victory, just getting there doesn't mean $hit now.

JDogg926
02-17-2005, 11:36 AM
I forgot to mention we're up 34-3 going into the 4th quarter.

purplehorn
02-17-2005, 11:40 AM
http://www.purplepride.org/skol/viewtopic.php?t=7600

DA JA VU :scratch:

shockzilla
02-17-2005, 11:41 AM
"DemonicViking" wrote:

I don't know, it sounds as if it was a mistake on the part of someone else as far as that bio goes.

That's EXACTLY my point - First the bio comes through incorrect, then he back-pedals and says he need to "correct some mistakes" - doesn't that say to you "oops, I guess someone is checking into my background", and he needs to correct it? Don't get me wrong, I hope everything works out well, I just think it's not a good way to get in the good graces of your fans...

Besides, in the story it says "Fowler said he hadn't seen the biography before it was distributed, and said he had directed his public relations firm to address problems with it.

"I want your city to like me," Fowler told the Star Tribune, which first reported the story. "I want to have credibility."

What does that last part say to you?

elgordo
02-17-2005, 11:47 AM
Who really gives a crap about all of this????

Did lying make O'Leary a bad coach????..............no

Does telling the truth mean that you will be a bad owner???

As for his finances, the NFL will find out if he has them or not, and if he doesn't they won't let him buy the team.

nuf said

shockzilla
02-17-2005, 11:50 AM
"purplehorn" wrote:

http://www.purplepride.org/skol/viewtopic.php?t=7600

DA JA VU :scratch:

Oops - my bad!

DemonicViking
02-17-2005, 12:38 PM
I understand what you're sayin' 'zilla.. but another part of me isn't being quick to judge and wonders how much he had to do with the bio and if he was having the good word put in for him without him realizing it.

Caine
02-17-2005, 01:52 PM
Hope for the best...expect the worst.

Fowler fouled up his resume. Ok, that's not a big plus for him, but neither is it the kiss of death. As has been said before in this thread, others have done so in the past, and still others will do so in the future. His mistake or his PR Machines mistake...who knows.


You have one chance to make a good first impression.

He played football...at a pretty high level...that's a BIG plus.
His resume was fudged...a small minus.
He's getting rid of Red *blows goats* McCombs...HUGE plus.

So far, he's ahead in the "impression" department.


The proof of the pudding is under the crust.

New quality Defense.
New Stadium.
Aggressive acquisition of useful talent.
Aggressive recruitment, retention of, and compensation for quality coaching.
Keep the Vikings in Minnesota.
Give Caine free season tickets.

These are his tests. These are the issues I will be looking at the hardest. If he follows through on these issues, then I couldn't care less if his resume says he invented electricity, bungie jumped off of the moon, and single handedly saved the Earth from an alien invasion.

Look at Jerry Jones. He's a putz, but the Cowboys won quite a few superbowls with him as the owner. If Fowler can win some Superbowls, do we really care if his resume isn't quite as factual as the media would like.

Truth is, the media misrepresents and distorts the truth so much, I find it more than just a little ironic that they make such a big deal out of anyone else doing so.

Caine

tarkenton10
02-17-2005, 02:08 PM
Yeah but if we can't believe the guy then that makes me worry. He says he won't move the team but now we know he is not believeable. So that assurance at least by me, doesn't have the same credence it once held!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I was always taught that if they lie about the little things then they will definitely lie about the big things!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :? :(

ultravikingfan
02-17-2005, 02:39 PM
"JDogg926" wrote:

Although some people may view him as a lesser of two evils, I support him and hope everything goes through welll.

Ownership change is a huge step in the right direction, and regardless of his first impression, the man has been a successful businessman, and he understands the game of football.

We'll all be laughing about this next February when he is the owner and we're playing in the superbowl!!!

Good post. Lets support Fowler and not be hung up on the fact that his bio has many inconsistancies.

JDogg926
02-17-2005, 02:47 PM
What if a bunch of X-Vikings pooled their money and bought the team..................................

Cris and Anthony Carter, Alan Page, Carl Eller, Keith Millard, Chris Doleman, Randall McDaniel, Randall Cunningham, Tommy Kramer, Wade Wilson, Sean Salisbury, Robert Smith, Darrin Nelson, Gary Zimmerman, Chuck Foreman, Scott Studwell, Al Noga, Leo Lewis, Hassan Jones, Henry Thomas, Carl Lee, Joey Browner, etc.

You'd have to think you could compile a list of wealthy enough people to buy the team, and it would be a mess trying to determine who has the final say on personnel and other issues, but it would be interesting. It would have to be majority rules.

I know this will never happen, but it would be interesting if it did.

ultravikingfan
02-17-2005, 03:13 PM
"JDogg926" wrote:

What if a bunch of X-Vikings pooled their money and bought the team..................................

Cris and Anthony Carter, Alan Page, Carl Eller, Keith Millard, Chris Doleman, Randall McDaniel, Randall Cunningham, Tommy Kramer, Wade Wilson, Sean Salisbury, Robert Smith, Darrin Nelson, Gary Zimmerman, Chuck Foreman, Scott Studwell, Al Noga, Leo Lewis, Hassan Jones, Henry Thomas, Carl Lee, Joey Browner, etc.

You'd have to think you could compile a list of wealthy enough people to buy the team, and it would be a mess trying to determine who has the final say on personnel and other issues, but it would be interesting. It would have to be majority rules.

I know this will never happen, but it would be interesting if it did.

I do not think they would have enough $$$ to do it.

cajunvike
02-17-2005, 03:43 PM
"JDogg926" wrote:

What if a bunch of X-Vikings pooled their money and bought the team..................................

Cris and Anthony Carter, Alan Page, Carl Eller, Keith Millard, Chris Doleman, Randall McDaniel, Randall Cunningham, Tommy Kramer, Wade Wilson, Sean Salisbury, Robert Smith, Darrin Nelson, Gary Zimmerman, Chuck Foreman, Scott Studwell, Al Noga, Leo Lewis, Hassan Jones, Henry Thomas, Carl Lee, Joey Browner, etc.

You'd have to think you could compile a list of wealthy enough people to buy the team, and it would be a mess trying to determine who has the final say on personnel and other issues, but it would be interesting. It would have to be majority rules.

I know this will never happen, but it would be interesting if it did.

The NFL wouldn't allow it UNLESS one of them was 30% majority owner...that is why they made The Gang of Ten (Roger Hendrick, et al) sell to Red in the first place! Only Green Bay gets to not have a majority owner...some BS special exception!

renovikesfan
02-17-2005, 06:04 PM
Some things to consider:

1) Fowler hasn't necessarily done anything wrong, other than hiring lousy PR.

2) If Fowler's bid falls through because of his finances, he may not be totally out of the picture as the first
African/American team owner. IIRC, the Cardinals are one of the other teams being talked about for relocation and/or sale, and their monetary value is even less than that of the Vikings.

3) Glen Taylor hasn't really done anything to prove he's all that and a bag of chips, other than being a local owner of another pro sports franchise.

4) We could simply be cursed to be the laughingstock of the NFL.

ultravikingfan
02-17-2005, 06:26 PM
"renovikesfan" wrote:

4) We could simply be cursed to be the laughingstock of the NFL.

Lets not top it off with draft day follies III. :lol:

shockzilla
02-17-2005, 09:07 PM
"ultravikingfan" wrote:

"renovikesfan" wrote:

4) We could simply be cursed to be the laughingstock of the NFL.

Lets not top it off with draft day follies III. :lol:

GOD, that would just push me over the edge!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

eelpout72
02-17-2005, 10:20 PM
Personally, its not simply an issue of (a) whether he lied or not and (b) if he did lie, whether his lying was unethical. Consider the 2 cases:

1) Assume he did intentionally lie. Why would he lie about something as stupid as playing in the little league world series? Does he think that we would really like him more because of it? Does he think that he may have a higher change of obtaining the team because of it? If he did intentionally lie about it, he is stupid because there is no rational reason for him to do so. He is simply a liar and stupid for putting himself in the situation that he is currently in.

2) Assume that he did not lie and that it is all the fault of the public relations firm for embellishing his record. Then how could he be so careless and clumsy in allowing a public relations firm to make such a stupid mistake and put him in such an awkward position? A big part of being an owner is making sure that you and your team have a good public relations (othewise you wouldnt sell tickets). If this is an example by what he thinks of public relations, its quite sad.

I also want to see Red go because we deserve better. I think that it also would be cool if we had the first black owner of a NFL team. However, the question is: Do we deserve better than Fowler? Its hard to say since we dont really know him, but if these actions are representative of him I really hope the NFL says no and that Red sells to somebody like Taylor. I dont want the lesser of 2 evils - I want a GOOD owner.

shockzilla
02-18-2005, 12:28 AM
"eelpout72" wrote:

Personally, its not simply an issue of (a) whether he lied or not and (b) if he did lie, whether his lying was unethical. Consider the 2 cases:

1) Assume he did intentionally lie. Why would he lie about something as stupid as playing in the little league world series? Does he think that we would really like him more because of it? Does he think that he may have a higher change of obtaining the team because of it? If he did intentionally lie about it, he is stupid because there is no rational reason for him to do so. He is simply a liar and stupid for putting himself in the situation that he is currently in.

2) Assume that he did not lie and that it is all the fault of the public relations firm for embellishing his record. Then how could he be so careless and clumsy in allowing a public relations firm to make such a stupid mistake and put him in such an awkward position? A big part of being an owner is making sure that you and your team have a good public relations (othewise you wouldnt sell tickets). If this is an example by what he thinks of public relations, its quite sad.

I also want to see Red go because we deserve better. I think that it also would be cool if we had the first black owner of a NFL team. However, the question is: Do we deserve better than Fowler? Its hard to say since we dont really know him, but if these actions are representative of him I really hope the NFL says no and that Red sells to somebody like Taylor. I dont want the lesser of 2 evils - I want a GOOD owner.

I couldn't have said things any better eelpout!!!!!!!!!!!

LosAngelis
02-19-2005, 11:54 AM
It is a bit amusing, I guess, espcially after the whole George O'Leary fiasco.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=1994801

Michael Silver had an article about Fowler and that it won't be a big deal.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2005/writers/michael_silver/02/17/silver.fowler/index.html

Here's the good news: You still own a company, Arizona-based Spiral Inc., which has helped make you a seriously rich dude. How rich, exactly, remains unclear, but it is the answer to that question -- and not some George O'Leary-esque uproar over your resume -- that will determine whether you become the NFL's first African-American owner.

This is one situation in which money talks and b.s. walks.

Obviously, Silver likes a story, and Fowler looks to be a good one. He's young, has some good anecdotes, and should be good for headlines. Media types will overlook flaws if they will get some good press out if it. Look at Parcells and T.O.

And, yes, he's the first African-American NFL Owner. There's a lot of hope pinned on Fowler from African-American groups, but also the NFL, which acknowledges the huge differential in the number of blacks playing in the NFL with the number of blacks coaching and owning.

My only concern is this, from the Viking point of view.

I spent time considering, if I had an extra 5 billion dollars hanging around, what I would do if I bought the Vikings. I think the first thing I'd look at is creating an atmosphere of winning. I'd get rid of Tice and bring in a top-notch guy to run the front office and be the GM for me, and allow him to mold the team (Think Ron Wolf).

Then, establish an attitude with the players that a) you are only here as long as it takes us to find someone better to replace you, and b) start negotiating contracts with waivers in them for people who misrepresent the team....drive drunk? Youre not only cut, but you need to pay back the pro-rated portion of your signing bonus. Offer them further bonuses for representing the team well, which won't count against the cap as they wouldn't have been in previous contracts.

Of course, I'd build a whole new stadium. I actually thought about how it would look and some of the amenities for the fans. I, of course, would have my own private box, and another private box for members of PurplePride. Hey, I have 5 billion bucks to kill....

My concern with a guy like Fowler, now, is that he has, however minorly, established that honesty is not his best policy. He's apologizing already, and he hasn't bought the team yet. Not the fire-and-brimstone kind of start you were all hoping for, I don't think. Now, its back to making excuses and brushing things off with a new owner.

My hope (for you) is that he doesn't come in and throws a bunch of bluster and talk. You already have a coach that does that.

This is a critical, critical time for the Vikings. You have a LOT of talent and a LOT of cap space. To me, the only thing that has stopped you from taking the NFC is yourselves....McCombs, Tice, lack of discipline, etc.

If Fowler plays his cards right, and makes some good, ballsy decisions, you might have a Lombardi trophy in a couple of years.

If he follows status quo, Moss and Culpepper's only chances of earning a ring will come in some other NFL city.

purplehorn
02-19-2005, 12:09 PM
"LosAngelis" wrote:



If he follows status quo, Moss and Culpepper's only chances of earning a ring will come in some other NFL city.



OOOOOOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWCCCHHHHHH!!!!

VikesFan111
02-19-2005, 04:47 PM
Fowler shares his philosophy
Kevin Seifert, Star Tribune
February 19, 2005 VNOT0219



Providing the first glimpse into how he would run the Vikings, prospective owner Reggie Fowler said Friday he plans to address the contract status of the team's leadership "immediately" upon taking control.

During a meeting with Twin Cities reporters, Fowler also said he is prepared to spend "what is necessary" on building the organization even if it means absorbing an annual financial loss. Fowler gave no indication he wants to trade receiver Randy Moss but said he would set a high standard for player behavior and comportment.

"I can't really speak about him as a player," Fowler said, "because I don't think that's right. But I can tell you that if we're fortunate enough to acquire this asset, there's going to be a certain standard that all our players are going to live within. And I think Mr. Moss is a competitor like all the other players on the team, and he'll live within the standards."

Moss has four years remaining on his contract, but the deals of nearly every other team employee -- including coach Mike Tice and Vice President of Football Operations Rob Brzezinski -- are set to expire after the 2005 season. The situation is ideal for a new owner who plans to bring in his own staff, but Fowler apparently has no such designs.

"We're happy with what the Vikings have there," Fowler said. "That's something we'll address at the time of acquiring the team. Obviously it's not the best situation. It would have to be addressed immediately."

Fowler indicated he does not want coaches and executives entering the 2005 season in the final year of their contract, saying he does not believe employees should face such uncertainty. He added it is "a fair assumption" that the situation will be rectified soon after NFL owners approve his bid. A vote could come as early as the March 20-23 owners meetings in Maui.

Fowler indicated he will work closely, if not daily, with the team's front office to learn the NFL's business.

"I believe that the Minnesota Vikings have a good staff in place with Mr. Brzezinski and his team," Fowler said. "I would be working with him, learning from him on a day-to-day basis. But I do think they're very capable."

Asked about Tice, Fowler laughed and said: "I have met Mr. Tice on one occasion. He is a very large man. We're excited about getting involved with Mr. Tice and his team. I'm looking forward to sitting down with him."

Meanwhile, many have projected that the Vikings' $625 million price tag will guarantee annual losses until the team begins playing in a new stadium. Fowler said he is aware of those projections and said they will not impact how the team is built.

"There are some challenges and costs in getting involved in an NFL franchise," Fowler said. "We feel very good about our abilities to accept those challenges and costs. We are aware of those situations relative to stadiums, relative to free agency and relative to operating the team."

Asked directly if he is prepared to take a short-term financial loss, Fowler said: "We're prepared to take on the financial challenges."

V4L
02-19-2005, 04:51 PM
what a guy.. sounds like he is serious about this whole deal.. i like the dude so far!

ultravikingfan
02-19-2005, 06:54 PM
I have read and heard a lot of BS on this. I am very dissappointed with the fact that something like this is happening to none other than us! How fricken fitting! Can't we just have something normal take place for once!

I listened to a writer for the Pioneer Press on ESPN radio just awhile ago and now I am just pissed. Why on God's green earth did this guy embellish, stretch, or flat out lie about what he has done? Little League, Bengals (oh yeah, he went to training camp and got cut, I guess that counts for being in the NFL), and the Business degree he said he has but is actually a degree in Social Work. If he has this many mental problems getting his bio straight, wait until he owns the team. WTF? So many questions come up!

Do these lies have anything to do whether or not he can get the team. No. Money does. If he lied about the other things in his bio, maybe he is misrepresenting his assets too. He may be worth $400 million, but in what? I hope he has his investors in check or he may go away empty handed and really be made a joke.

Sorry for the rant, I am just pissed! How come with Minnesota sports we can't have one season where things sail smoothly? Ok, maybe in '87 and '91 they did. I would not be surprised in Taylor is talking with some other rich owners undermining Fowler. I wish Taylor would ge the team.

/off rant

TheAnimal93
02-19-2005, 08:02 PM
Fowler Clears the Air

Viking Update Staff - Scout.com
February 19, 2005 at 12:50pm ET
Days after being hammered for inaccuracies on his biography, Reggie Fowler met with the local media Friday, asserting his desire to own the Vikings.

When Reggie Fowler was introduced to the local sports media representatives Monday, he was accompanied by a biographical document which, upon further review, contained some serious alterations of fact.

Fowler addressed those questions Friday in a series of interviews he did with print and broadcast media, saying that he doesn't want to be viewed as a mystery to Minnesotans.

Fowler, who joked he had "taken the heat off of Randy Moss ," repeated his desire to own the Vikings and understands that he will scrutinized heavily -- whether he wants to or not or whether the criticism is warranted.

While he still didn't give a lot of information about his other partners in the purchase, Fowler made one point very clear -- he wants to own the Vikings and, by all accounts, wants to keep them here. For Vikings fans, that has be viewed as good news, since Red McCombs had essentially given up on finding a new stadium deal. Now if we can get beyond resume evaluation and start working on free agency, everything should be O.K. in Vikings nation.



can things ever go smoothly?
lets hope this is the end of speculation one way or the other.
its unlikely we will hear anything definite for a couple more weeks. owners meetings in march, have to wait for approval. anyone heard if this guy is going to be accepted into the circle?

ultravikingfan
02-19-2005, 09:00 PM
I would like to read more detail about that. According to the Pioneer Press dude, Folwer only made the situation worse! Yikes!!!

mvikes84
02-19-2005, 09:21 PM
"Vikez4Lyfe" wrote:

lol i think its kinda funny Funny? He just proved that he's a LIAR!!! He said he won't move the Vikings. What if he's lying about that too? Will you think that's funny? You better WAKE UP!!!

mvikes84
02-19-2005, 09:25 PM
"cajunvike" wrote:

"Vikadelic" wrote:

Looks like he juiced his resume a bit. What do you think will happen? Does this mean he won't get the team or is it a mere embarassment for him?

It means that he won't have any qualms about rehiring George O'Leary to coach the defense next year! :lol: It means that he's a LIAR!!! What if he was lying whan he said he won't move the team? Will you be laughing then?

mvikes84
02-19-2005, 09:31 PM
"bart" wrote:

For some reason I keep thinking of the Titanic, I don't really know why......... Because you have a brain, unlike a lot of these people posting comments about this.

mvikes84
02-19-2005, 09:36 PM
"Bdubya" wrote:

I don't care. I honestly do not care one way or another. Just give him the team, and lets move on. Will "you care" if he's also LYING about not moving the team?

mvikes84
02-19-2005, 09:39 PM
"shockzilla" wrote:

The more I read about Fowler, the less I like and the more I worry...

See the story link below:

http://www.kare11.com/news/news_article.aspx?storyid=75618

There's something about this guy that makes me think he's NOT representing himself well... Maybe it's the fact that he's a big LIAR!!! What if he's lying about not moving the Vikings?

mvikes84
02-19-2005, 09:41 PM
"shockzilla" wrote:

MY deal is this - it's his FIRST IMPRESSION, and it's NOT a good one... Your right on shockzilla!

ultravikingfan
02-19-2005, 09:42 PM
mvikes84 seems to be a little angry over the Fowler shananigans like myself. Did I spell shananigans correct?

mvikes84
02-19-2005, 09:47 PM
"tarkenton10" wrote:

Yeah but if we can't believe the guy then that makes me worry. He says he won't move the team but now we know he is not believeable. So that assurance at least by me, doesn't have the same credence it once held!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I was always taught that if they lie about the little things then they will definitely lie about the big things!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :? :( Very well put tarkenton10! Glad to see someone is making some sense!!!

mvikes84
02-19-2005, 09:50 PM
"ultravikingfan" wrote:

"JDogg926" wrote:

Although some people may view him as a lesser of two evils, I support him and hope everything goes through welll.

Ownership change is a huge step in the right direction, and regardless of his first impression, the man has been a successful businessman, and he understands the game of football.

We'll all be laughing about this next February when he is the owner and we're playing in the superbowl!!!

Good post. Lets support Fowler and not be hung up on the fact that his bio has many inconsistancies. I refuse to "support" a proven LIAR!!! What if he's lying about not selling the team? Are you going to "support" him then?

mvikes84
02-19-2005, 09:54 PM
"shockzilla" wrote:

"eelpout72" wrote:

Personally, its not simply an issue of (a) whether he lied or not and (b) if he did lie, whether his lying was unethical. Consider the 2 cases:

1) Assume he did intentionally lie. Why would he lie about something as stupid as playing in the little league world series? Does he think that we would really like him more because of it? Does he think that he may have a higher change of obtaining the team because of it? If he did intentionally lie about it, he is stupid because there is no rational reason for him to do so. He is simply a liar and stupid for putting himself in the situation that he is currently in.

2) Assume that he did not lie and that it is all the fault of the public relations firm for embellishing his record. Then how could he be so careless and clumsy in allowing a public relations firm to make such a stupid mistake and put him in such an awkward position? A big part of being an owner is making sure that you and your team have a good public relations (othewise you wouldnt sell tickets). If this is an example by what he thinks of public relations, its quite sad.

I also want to see Red go because we deserve better. I think that it also would be cool if we had the first black owner of a NFL team. However, the question is: Do we deserve better than Fowler? Its hard to say since we dont really know him, but if these actions are representative of him I really hope the NFL says no and that Red sells to somebody like Taylor. I dont want the lesser of 2 evils - I want a GOOD owner.

I couldn't have said things any better eelpout!!!!!!!!!!! I agree 100%

mvikes84
02-19-2005, 09:59 PM
"VikesFan111" wrote:

Fowler shares his philosophy
Kevin Seifert, Star Tribune
February 19, 2005 VNOT0219



Providing the first glimpse into how he would run the Vikings, prospective owner Reggie Fowler said Friday he plans to address the contract status of the team's leadership "immediately" upon taking control.

During a meeting with Twin Cities reporters, Fowler also said he is prepared to spend "what is necessary" on building the organization even if it means absorbing an annual financial loss. Fowler gave no indication he wants to trade receiver Randy Moss but said he would set a high standard for player behavior and comportment.

"I can't really speak about him as a player," Fowler said, "because I don't think that's right. But I can tell you that if we're fortunate enough to acquire this asset, there's going to be a certain standard that all our players are going to live within. And I think Mr. Moss is a competitor like all the other players on the team, and he'll live within the standards."

Moss has four years remaining on his contract, but the deals of nearly every other team employee -- including coach Mike Tice and Vice President of Football Operations Rob Brzezinski -- are set to expire after the 2005 season. The situation is ideal for a new owner who plans to bring in his own staff, but Fowler apparently has no such designs.

"We're happy with what the Vikings have there," Fowler said. "That's something we'll address at the time of acquiring the team. Obviously it's not the best situation. It would have to be addressed immediately."

Fowler indicated he does not want coaches and executives entering the 2005 season in the final year of their contract, saying he does not believe employees should face such uncertainty. He added it is "a fair assumption" that the situation will be rectified soon after NFL owners approve his bid. A vote could come as early as the March 20-23 owners meetings in Maui.

Fowler indicated he will work closely, if not daily, with the team's front office to learn the NFL's business.

"I believe that the Minnesota Vikings have a good staff in place with Mr. Brzezinski and his team," Fowler said. "I would be working with him, learning from him on a day-to-day basis. But I do think they're very capable."

Asked about Tice, Fowler laughed and said: "I have met Mr. Tice on one occasion. He is a very large man. We're excited about getting involved with Mr. Tice and his team. I'm looking forward to sitting down with him."

Meanwhile, many have projected that the Vikings' $625 million price tag will guarantee annual losses until the team begins playing in a new stadium. Fowler said he is aware of those projections and said they will not impact how the team is built.

"There are some challenges and costs in getting involved in an NFL franchise," Fowler said. "We feel very good about our abilities to accept those challenges and costs. We are aware of those situations relative to stadiums, relative to free agency and relative to operating the team."

Asked directly if he is prepared to take a short-term financial loss, Fowler said: "We're prepared to take on the financial challenges." After Fowler's ridiculous lies, how can you believe anything else he said????

mvikes84
02-19-2005, 10:03 PM
"Vikez4Lyfe" wrote:

what a guy.. sounds like he is serious about this whole deal.. i like the dude so far! He's either "serious" or he"s LYING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ultravikingfan
02-19-2005, 10:46 PM
"ultravikingfan" wrote:

Good post. Lets support Fowler and not be hung up on the fact that his bio has many inconsistancies.

I am doing a 180 on this. The more a read and hear, the more a do not like. :(

VikesFan111
02-19-2005, 10:50 PM
"mvikes84" wrote:

"Vikez4Lyfe" wrote:

what a guy.. sounds like he is serious about this whole deal.. i like the dude so far! He's either "serious" or he"s LYING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Get your head out of your :bootyshake: and think about it...

He lied about a resume...big deal...I lied on my college application.
That does not make me a bad or unethical person. Would we all be a little more confident in him if he didnt??? OF COURSE. I still got into college and I have been making straight A's since. He could come in and do wonders for us. You never know. I do know one thing though...Red is gone(hopefully)

#1- If he is approved...That is a step forward. I would still rather have HIM as the owner than RED.

#2- YOU DO NOT KNOW HIM.

#3- What he said in the StarTribune is encouraging whether it is a lie or not.

#4- He probably wants to impress everyone...the press,fans and the NFL because the "lying" incident was probably very embarrassing for him and if I were him I would do all I could to get on Minnesota's good side.

#5- If the deal falls through...one of two things is gonna happen...Red keeps the team and we definetly MOVE out of Minny...OR...Taylor buys the team and all of us are happy.

#6- If the deal falls through and Fowler does not get the team...what makes you think that Red will sell to Taylor for what Taylor was offering?
Red WILL make more money moving the franchise and WOULD make more money owning the team for the next couple of years before he croaks.

#7- It is up to the head of the state in Minnesota whether we get a new stadium or not. It is also up to the people of Blaine whether they want to pay 90 CENTS per week more than their usual spending. You can find 90 cents out in anywhere. Hell...go collect can tops and make 90 cents. I believe Fowler will do all he can to get that stadium. Or atleast I would like to think that way.

#8- Just be be OPTIMISTIC for ONCE. We do deserve better and we have been treated like crap for being IMO, some of the loyalist football fans ever! But...it is time to move on with a more optimistic mindset. THE MAN SAID WHAT YOU WANTED TO HEAR...from what I got out of the article...IT SOUNDED GOOD and I would rather hear that than NOTHING AT ALL.

LosAngelis
02-19-2005, 11:23 PM
mvikes, were all 74 of your posts in this thread?

ultravikingfan
02-19-2005, 11:39 PM
I think that we are all "optimistically cautious."

DemonicViking
02-20-2005, 12:46 AM
"I think if I was an employee I would have some concerns," Fowler said. "But I'm really hopeful that we keep it together long enough to have an opportunity to get in front of, not only yourself (the media), but them and the Twin Cities and the state of Minnesota to let them know that we are very sincere and very dedicated and very passionate about what we want to do."

http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/sports/football/nfl/san_francisco_49ers/10944218.htm

Despite these recent misconceptions I still haven't let pessimism set in completely, and what I took from that article I can't help but have more faith that he could do good things for us ( assuming the deal becomes finalized once and for all, which it probably will) and keeps the Vikings where they belong which is all that matters here more than whether or not he lied about doing something such as playing little leauge baseball.

ultravikingfan
02-20-2005, 12:50 AM
It just says volumes about somebody's character.

I have calmed down now, so I will give a "wait and see" attitude.

mvikes84
02-20-2005, 09:58 PM
"VikesFan111" wrote:

"mvikes84" wrote:

"Vikez4Lyfe" wrote:

what a guy.. sounds like he is serious about this whole deal.. i like the dude so far! He's either "serious" or he"s LYING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Get your head out of your :bootyshake: and think about it...

He lied about a resume...big deal...I lied on my college application.
That does not make me a bad or unethical person. Would we all be a little more confident in him if he didnt??? OF COURSE. I still got into college and I have been making straight A's since. He could come in and do wonders for us. You never know. I do know one thing though...Red is gone(hopefully)

#1- If he is approved...That is a step forward. I would still rather have HIM as the owner than RED.

#2- YOU DO NOT KNOW HIM.

#3- What he said in the StarTribune is encouraging whether it is a lie or not.

#4- He probably wants to impress everyone...the press,fans and the NFL because the "lying" incident was probably very embarrassing for him and if I were him I would do all I could to get on Minnesota's good side.

#5- If the deal falls through...one of two things is gonna happen...Red keeps the team and we definetly MOVE out of Minny...OR...Taylor buys the team and all of us are happy.

#6- If the deal falls through and Fowler does not get the team...what makes you think that Red will sell to Taylor for what Taylor was offering?
Red WILL make more money moving the franchise and WOULD make more money owning the team for the next couple of years before he croaks.

#7- It is up to the head of the state in Minnesota whether we get a new stadium or not. It is also up to the people of Blaine whether they want to pay 90 CENTS per week more than their usual spending. You can find 90 cents out in anywhere. Hell...go collect can tops and make 90 cents. I believe Fowler will do all he can to get that stadium. Or atleast I would like to think that way.

#8- Just be be OPTIMISTIC for ONCE. We do deserve better and we have been treated like crap for being IMO, some of the loyalist football fans ever! But...it is time to move on with a more optimistic mindset. THE MAN SAID WHAT YOU WANTED TO HEAR...from what I got out of the article...IT SOUNDED GOOD and I would rather hear that than NOTHING AT ALL. Hey VikesFan111, you "DO NOT KNOW ME", but you said I have my "head up my ass. Why don't you "think about that". It's ok for "you" to form an opinion about "me" based on what I said, BUT it's not ok for me to form an opinion about Fowler based on what he said??? How does that work???

LosAngelis
02-20-2005, 10:27 PM
Can't we all just get along?

And not use so many ALL CAPS?

And "quotation marks"?

VikesFan111
02-20-2005, 10:45 PM
"mvikes84" wrote:

"VikesFan111" wrote:

"mvikes84" wrote:

"Vikez4Lyfe" wrote:

what a guy.. sounds like he is serious about this whole deal.. i like the dude so far! He's either "serious" or he"s LYING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Get your head out of your :bootyshake: and think about it...

He lied about a resume...big deal...I lied on my college application.
That does not make me a bad or unethical person. Would we all be a little more confident in him if he didnt??? OF COURSE. I still got into college and I have been making straight A's since. He could come in and do wonders for us. You never know. I do know one thing though...Red is gone(hopefully)

#1- If he is approved...That is a step forward. I would still rather have HIM as the owner than RED.

#2- YOU DO NOT KNOW HIM.

#3- What he said in the StarTribune is encouraging whether it is a lie or not.

#4- He probably wants to impress everyone...the press,fans and the NFL because the "lying" incident was probably very embarrassing for him and if I were him I would do all I could to get on Minnesota's good side.

#5- If the deal falls through...one of two things is gonna happen...Red keeps the team and we definetly MOVE out of Minny...OR...Taylor buys the team and all of us are happy.

#6- If the deal falls through and Fowler does not get the team...what makes you think that Red will sell to Taylor for what Taylor was offering?
Red WILL make more money moving the franchise and WOULD make more money owning the team for the next couple of years before he croaks.

#7- It is up to the head of the state in Minnesota whether we get a new stadium or not. It is also up to the people of Blaine whether they want to pay 90 CENTS per week more than their usual spending. You can find 90 cents out in anywhere. Hell...go collect can tops and make 90 cents. I believe Fowler will do all he can to get that stadium. Or atleast I would like to think that way.

#8- Just be be OPTIMISTIC for ONCE. We do deserve better and we have been treated like crap for being IMO, some of the loyalist football fans ever! But...it is time to move on with a more optimistic mindset. THE MAN SAID WHAT YOU WANTED TO HEAR...from what I got out of the article...IT SOUNDED GOOD and I would rather hear that than NOTHING AT ALL. Hey VikesFan111, you "DO NOT KNOW ME", but you said I have my "head up my butt. Why don't you "think about that". It's ok for "you" to form an opinion about "me" based on what I said, BUT it's not ok for me to form an opinion about Fowler based on what he said??? How does that work???

Wow man...I have nothing against you and I am sorry if you feel offended by what I said. It is okay to have "your" opinion...I have "mine". I stated my opinion. It works. I did not mean to offend you the way I did.

About the caps and quotes Los, I am sorry for that too.

triedandtruevikesfan
02-20-2005, 10:46 PM
I'm generally extremely optimistic, but something about this guy really worries me. I don't trust him anymore then I trust Red. I think he would have to prove to me that he's worth trusting before I open my arms in welcome to him. Remember when Red bought the team and everyone was all excited?? A few years later we all hate him because he ended up being a really crappy owner... I'm gonna reserve my judgement on him. I'm not sold that he's gonna be better then Red though! (and I originally said anyone would be better then red) I guess I just really want an owner thats gonna be good for this team... They deserve it!!!

PurpleRide
02-20-2005, 10:54 PM
I have lied on a resume, my friends have lied as well, it happens more than not i'm sure. The only difference here is he has the chance to buy the Vikings. I still want him to be the next owner, everything he has touched business wise has done well. I don't care if he played for an nfl team or played in the LLWS. Lets look up how he runs his businesses, remember people he will OWN the team, not play on it

eelpout72
02-20-2005, 10:55 PM
"VikesFan111" wrote:

He lied about a resume...big deal...I lied on my college application.
That does not make me a bad or unethical person. Would we all be a little

I see... so youre a liar too. Maybe we shouldnt believe anything you write in your posts! :lol: j/k

"VikesFan111" wrote:

#8- Just be be OPTIMISTIC for ONCE. We do deserve better and we have been treated like crap for being IMO, some of the loyalist football fans ever! But...it is time to move on with a more optimistic mindset. THE MAN SAID WHAT YOU WANTED TO HEAR...from what I got out of the article...IT SOUNDED GOOD and I would rather hear that than NOTHING AT ALL.
I must admit that i was optimistic for the the vikes when i heard about Fowler's bid for ownership. After all of this crap with Fowler, I am now optimistic that he will get turned down by the NFL and somebody better will buy the Vikes soon.

LosAngelis
02-20-2005, 11:04 PM
Caveat...all owners are slippery, slimy, and dishonest...at least to a degree.

This is why I'm glad the community owns my team.

But, haven't you guys had enough image problems the past several years? Do you think you really want this guy?

ultravikingfan
02-20-2005, 11:15 PM
"PurpleRide" wrote:

I have lied on a resume, my friends have lied as well, it happens more than not i'm sure. The only difference here is he has the chance to buy the Vikings. I still want him to be the next owner, everything he has touched business wise has done well. I don't care if he played for an nfl team or played in the LLWS. Lets look up how he runs his businesses, remember people he will OWN the team, not play on it

No, the only difference is he got caught, you did not.

I think a lot of our reactions are because we are in the mindset that we do not need anymore distractions with this team.