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john fleming
01-01-2009, 05:52 PM
What does Philly bring that could cause the Vikes problems?
A very well run West Coast offense!
Westbrook is the best back in this system since Marshal Faulk.
This guy can hurt us.
The Vikes need to get quick pressure on McNabb & try to keep him out of any kind of rhythm.
We need to know where Westbrook is at all times & the big question is, can we play the Eagles recievers tight?
If we can then we should be able to have success.
What say you purple nation?

HoosierVike
01-01-2009, 05:59 PM
It depends on what Eagles team shows up, this team has been extremely overhyped this week.
4 of their wins came against the Browns, 49ers, Rams and Seahawks, not counting a tie with Cincy.
Overconfidence could plague them.
If McNabb continues to play at the level he has been it will certainly cause us problems, but if we can keep Westbrook contained they will become one dimensional

PAvikesfan
01-01-2009, 06:06 PM
What they can bring:

An offense that is running on high octane and a defense that is statistically a little better than ours...

We bring the best run defense, they bring Westbrook and Buckhalter.

We bring AP, they bring the best blitzing defense in the NFL.

In short, this is going to be a great game!

Put pressure on McNabb, make him throw and stop their run, we are in it.
AP and Chester Taylor get involved majorly in the game with great results, we win this puppy!
Oh and if TJ can keep his head as straight as he has for the last three games and not make many mistakes, we win!

HoosierVike
01-01-2009, 06:08 PM
"PAvikesfan" wrote:


What they can bring:

An offense that is running on high octane and a defense that is statistically a little better than ours...

We bring the best run defense, they bring Westbrook and Buckhalter.

We bring AP, they bring the best blitzing defense in the NFL.

In short, this is going to be a great game!

Put pressure on McNabb, make him throw and stop their run, we are in it.
AP and Chester Taylor get involved majorly in the game with great results, we win this puppy!
Oh and if TJ can keep his head as straight as he has for the last three games and not make many mistakes, we win!


with their blitzing schemes if we can get AP through the first level he is gone

jargomcfargo
01-01-2009, 06:10 PM
The quick answer would be their team.
But seriously, I agree the Vikings will need to contain Westbrook.
The Vikings need to get a lead so they can run on offense. Philly has a very good run defense, but I think the Vikings rush offense can pound on them and wear them out.

This is one of the toughest playoff team match ups for the Vikings. We match up best with teams that primarily run. We stop the run to make them one dimensional.

It will be hard to make the Eagles one dimensional.

But we did well against the passing Cardinals. Not exactly the same, but still gives me hope.

Our linebackers need to have a good day. And we need to bring some pressure.

Keep mistakes/turnovers down, we win.

vikings_fan66
01-01-2009, 06:11 PM
"HoosierVike" wrote:


"PAvikesfan" wrote:


What they can bring:

An offense that is running on high octane and a defense that is statistically a little better than ours...

We bring the best run defense, they bring Westbrook and Buckhalter.

We bring AP, they bring the best blitzing defense in the NFL.

In short, this is going to be a great game!

Put pressure on McNabb, make him throw and stop their run, we are in it.
AP and Chester Taylor get involved majorly in the game with great results, we win this puppy!
Oh and if TJ can keep his head as straight as he has for the last three games and not make many mistakes, we win!


with their blitzing schemes if we can get AP through the first level he is gone


Yup this is so true...also the oppurtunity for big pass plays if we can hit the vacant area or find the uncovered or 1 on 1 matchup

phillyj
01-01-2009, 06:13 PM
I was going to say their fans

VikingMike
01-01-2009, 06:19 PM
Westbrook, a QB who can keep the play alive, and Johnson's D...that's enough.

NordicNed
01-01-2009, 06:23 PM
Right now, the biggest thing they have going for them is, their momentum....They are playing at a very high level of play right now, and that is always a good thing for any team.....
They definetly have us there, but as I always say, thats why we play the game.
On any given day, any team can beat any other team.
This game will come down to whoever makes the least amount of penaltys and turnovers.

nailhead77
01-01-2009, 06:23 PM
Putting pressure on Mcnabb will be good only if we get hits on him.
I am worried we might try to pressure him to often and get destroyed by screens.
We can definately win this game.
They are not going to run the ball on us and probably wont try to.
The quick slants and comebacks have been killing us,
hopefully we have been working on that this week.
If we can hold them down and build even a small lead, i like our chances.










I guess what i am saying is stop the short stuff and make mcnabb go over the top.
I am tired of watching this team give up 10-15 play drives because we cant stop the quick passing game.
I am not a coach so i am not sure what we need to to besides not give up the inside move and use the sideline.
the eagles will be extermely pass heavy and i hope we can get a few turnovers.

gagarr
01-01-2009, 06:27 PM
Nothing!
Vikes will stop their run, forcing them to be one dimensional which they suck at.

All this talk about blitzes.
AD will make them pay.
CT will catch screens and make them pay.
Shiancoe will catch out routes and make them pay.
Wade will catch quick slants and make them pay.
If the Vikes pick up the blitz, then BB one on one will make them pay.

Not to mention that Klieny, Rice, Tahi, Dugan will also be involved.
Because if they blitz these are the guys that will be WIDE open.

Eagles got nothing the Vikes can't handle.
The only team that can beat the Vikes is the Vikes.

No TO's and the Vikes will win easy.


I don't care about 3 and outs, Kluwe will pin them deep and the D will stop them dead.
Field position is what matters, TO's destroy field position.

VikingsExpress
01-01-2009, 06:39 PM
The defense for Philly is really good at scheming.
That does not bode well for Tjack.
He could have some problems.
I think that the Vikes run game is crucial in this game.
They will need to get Dawkins tired by the 4th quarter, then take advantage.
Hopefully they come to play!

Marrdro
01-02-2009, 08:49 AM
"gagarr" wrote:


Nothing!
Vikes will stop their run, forcing them to be one dimensional which they suck at.

All this talk about blitzes.
AD will make them pay.
CT will catch screens and make them pay.
Shiancoe will catch out routes and make them pay.
Wade will catch quick slants and make them pay.
If the Vikes pick up the blitz, then BB one on one will make them pay.

Not to mention that Klieny, Rice, Tahi, Dugan will also be involved.
Because if they blitz these are the guys that will be WIDE open.

Eagles got nothing the Vikes can't handle.
The only team that can beat the Vikes is the Vikes.

No TO's and the Vikes will win easy.


I don't care about 3 and outs, Kluwe will pin them deep and the D will stop them dead.
Field position is what matters, TO's destroy field position.

Problem is, those guys WON'T be wide open if they are helping pick up the blitz all the time.
Birk and TJ better bring thier "A" game with respect to blitz recognition this weekend my friend or TJ will have a long day.

I worry alot about the following:

a.
McNabb.
His legs are healthy.
Without a LDE we won't be able to contain him on that side.
I look to see alot of roll outs to that side away from JA with a TE or a RB (Westbrook) coming across.

b.
Westbrook.
This guy is a nice back for what they do.
Can run and catch the pass.
Not a bad back when it comes to picking up the blitz.
Makes it hard to judge what they will do each and every play.
This game, above all others, will show how much we need EJ not only for how he deals with coverage but his play calling/adjustments as well.

c. Turnovers.
I see a boring, defensive minded grind it out game.
The team that makes the first mistake will be deep behind the power curve.

What I think they are worrying about.

a.
Making us one dimensional.
How much to they commit to this?
Goal will be to take AD out of the picture.
Typically everyone will automatically think "Stacked Box".
I don't, I think quick scores, get ahead of us quick and force us to play catch up thereby negating AD.


See item C above......

b. Our DL.
Without a true LDE, I don't think they are as worried as they were.
Ole Leslie is gonna have to be creative with respect to how he fills this hole.
If he puts a guy like Rob in there then the Iggles with just put a TE and FB and run to that side.
If he puts in a guy like Wyms then they roll the pocket that way and just pick the secondary apart.

Its good Phat Pat will be able to get some reps.
I think he will be key to negating some of that short passing crap the Iggles love to do with Westbrook.
Nothing better than a big body blowing up the middle to take that away.

c.
TJ.
I know, I know.
If this kid plays a patient game (gotta be ahead or have a close score) I think he can hurt them a bit with his legs if he gets in trouble.
That means "Contain" for thier LDE.
We have seen alot of rollouts to that side (easier for him to get set/throw from that side) and its were Shanc predominatly lines up to help out.
Could be some nice short stuff available in that area.

Hard game to call for me as we both bring some nice stuff to the table that the other will worry about.
Sure wish our team had alot more experience.
In the end, that is what it might come down to.
Who handles the pressure the best.

singersp
01-02-2009, 09:31 AM
"Marrdro" wrote:


I worry alot about the following:

a.
McNabb.
His legs are healthy.
Without a LDE we won't be able to contain him on that side.
I look to see alot of roll outs to that side away from JA with a TE or a RB (Westbrook) coming across.

b.
Westbrook.
This guy is a nice back for what they do.
Can run and catch the pass.
Not a bad back when it comes to picking up the blitz.
Makes it hard to judge what they will do each and every play.
This game, above all others, will show how much we need EJ not only for how he deals with coverage but his play calling/adjustments as well.


You can stop right there.

Those two will exploit our secondary at the LB level with quick slants & dumps over the middle.

Stop that or keep it to minimal gain, we win.

Allow it to happen all game & we lose.

That is our biggest weakness & Reid knows it.

Marrdro
01-02-2009, 09:37 AM
"singersp" wrote:


"Marrdro" wrote:


I worry alot about the following:

a.
McNabb.
His legs are healthy.
Without a LDE we won't be able to contain him on that side.
I look to see alot of roll outs to that side away from JA with a TE or a RB (Westbrook) coming across.

b.
Westbrook.
This guy is a nice back for what they do.
Can run and catch the pass.
Not a bad back when it comes to picking up the blitz.
Makes it hard to judge what they will do each and every play.
This game, above all others, will show how much we need EJ not only for how he deals with coverage but his play calling/adjustments as well.


You can stop right there.

Those two will exploit our secondary at the LB level with quick slants & dumps over the middle.

Stop that or keep it to minimal gain, we win.

Allow it to happen all game & we lose.

That is our biggest weakness & Reid knows it.

It gets worse,.......

Because we lost Ray, Leslie won't be able to go with 2 LB'rs like he has been doing alot.
He will have to keep one on that side (probably Napo) to help shore up that side against the run which I am sure McNabb will quickly audible out of into one of those quick screens/dumpoffs.

Again, Ole Leslie is gonna show his ass this weekend.
Hope it is a good looking ass.

Zeus
01-02-2009, 09:42 AM
First off - skanky girls with diseases.
Nothing worse than some foul-mouthed South Philly tramp with a persecution complex because she's not from New York.

Secondly - dirty fat guys with no shirts.


Thirdly and finally - a whole lotta nothing to the national scene.

=Z=

singersp
01-02-2009, 09:44 AM
"Marrdro" wrote:


"singersp" wrote:


"Marrdro" wrote:


I worry alot about the following:

a.
McNabb.
His legs are healthy.
Without a LDE we won't be able to contain him on that side.
I look to see alot of roll outs to that side away from JA with a TE or a RB (Westbrook) coming across.

b.
Westbrook.
This guy is a nice back for what they do.
Can run and catch the pass.
Not a bad back when it comes to picking up the blitz.
Makes it hard to judge what they will do each and every play.
This game, above all others, will show how much we need EJ not only for how he deals with coverage but his play calling/adjustments as well.


You can stop right there.

Those two will exploit our secondary at the LB level with quick slants & dumps over the middle.

Stop that or keep it to minimal gain, we win.

Allow it to happen all game & we lose.

That is our biggest weakness & Reid knows it.

It gets worse,.......

Because we lost Ray, Leslie won't be able to go with 2 LB'rs like he has been doing alot.
He will have to keep one on that side (probably Napo) to help shore up that side against the run which I am sure McNabb will quickly audible out of into one of those quick screens/dumpoffs.

Again, Ole Leslie is gonna show his ass this weekend.
Hope it is a good looking ass.


Don't rule out Ray yet. There was a blurb on ESPN.com or NFL.com that he may be playing.

Marrdro
01-02-2009, 09:47 AM
"singersp" wrote:


"Marrdro" wrote:


"singersp" wrote:


"Marrdro" wrote:


I worry alot about the following:

a.
McNabb.
His legs are healthy.
Without a LDE we won't be able to contain him on that side.
I look to see alot of roll outs to that side away from JA with a TE or a RB (Westbrook) coming across.

b.
Westbrook.
This guy is a nice back for what they do.
Can run and catch the pass.
Not a bad back when it comes to picking up the blitz.
Makes it hard to judge what they will do each and every play.
This game, above all others, will show how much we need EJ not only for how he deals with coverage but his play calling/adjustments as well.


You can stop right there.

Those two will exploit our secondary at the LB level with quick slants & dumps over the middle.

Stop that or keep it to minimal gain, we win.

Allow it to happen all game & we lose.

That is our biggest weakness & Reid knows it.

It gets worse,.......

Because we lost Ray, Leslie won't be able to go with 2 LB'rs like he has been doing alot.
He will have to keep one on that side (probably Napo) to help shore up that side against the run which I am sure McNabb will quickly audible out of into one of those quick screens/dumpoffs.

Again, Ole Leslie is gonna show his jiggly butt this weekend.
Hope it is a good looking jiggly butt.


Don't rule out Ray yet. There was a blurb on ESPN.com or NFL.com that he may be playing.

Lord I hope so.

Who were the chuckle heads who disagreed with me about adding weight and staying healthy playing that side?

Again, as I've said before, that guy has done a real nice job sealing the end in the base.
To bad he had to run his mouth a bit.
Now all people can yack about are his lack of sacks...... ::)

singersp
01-02-2009, 10:15 AM
Peterson says Vikings must shut down Cole (http://www.philly.com/inquirer/sports/20090102_Eagles_Notes___Peterson_says_Vikings_must_shut_down_Cole.html)

Posted on Fri, Jan. 2, 2009

philly.com


Adrian Peterson didn't hesitate when he was asked who on the Eagles defense must be neutralized.
"Cole," the Vikings running back said on a conference call the other day, referring to defensive end Trent Cole....

singersp
01-02-2009, 10:17 AM
Vikings' objective: Stop Westbrook (http://www.philly.com/inquirer/sports/20090102_Vikings__objective__Stop_Westbrook.html)

Posted on Fri, Jan. 2, 2009

By Ashley Fox
Inquirer Staff Writer


EDEN PRAIRIE, Minn. - Jared Allen didn't remember the particulars, only that the Eagles stormed back against his Kansas City Chiefs in 2005, overcoming a 24-6 deficit to leave Arrowhead Stadium with a 37-31 victory. But Allen has watched enough football to know this about Brian Westbrook........

Eldin
01-02-2009, 10:18 AM
The Eagles have given the Vikings a lot of trouble over the years.
They are a tough match up for us.
If this game was in Philly, we'd be the underdog.
At home, I like our chances.

The Eagles have had the same identity for a long time.
But the core of that identity is a bit passed its prime.
They're certainly not as good as the Eagle team that beat the Vikings in the 2004 playoffs.
Moreover, the Vikings are a completely different team than they were then.

The recipe for success is not hard to understand.
It is the execution that matters:

-Run the ball efficiently.
Move the chains.
-Win the turnover battle.
-Convert TDs, not FGs.

It probably is not realistic to expect that we can run the ball down their throats all game long (though I'd love to be proven wrong).
At some point, TJ is going to have to make a big play down the field.


People are high on the Eagles right now because of the way they finished the season.
I think they've become over-hyped.

MaxVike
01-02-2009, 10:28 AM
Six key players:
1)
Brian Dawkins - he is the heart and soul of the defense.
TJack has got to immediately locate him and attack with Shiancoe.
2)
Asante Samuel - playmaker extraordinare.
This guy makes the Eagles defense work the way Johnson wants.
He makes plays in every facet of defense...similar to Winfield, except he finds the ball in his hands much more.
3)
Trent Cole - underrated pass rusher.
Similar to Dwight Freeney but faster.
4)
Westbrook - virtually undefenseable.
He is a beast in the open field and breaks more tackles than you think.
5)
Desaun Jackson - reminds me of Anthony Carter...except faster.
The kid is a football player and will make his mark in this game, I'm afraid.
Lightning quick with breakaway speed, hits full speed in about two steps.
Has awesome punt return skills too.
6)
Turnovers - the only Team in the Playoffs with a negative TO ratio; to me, an indication of how good our Team could be.
7)
McNabb - since benched, he has been on fire.
No elements to worry about, he could light it up...alternatively, if pressured, he can stink up the Dome.
8)
TJack - first Playoff game.
He will be terrorized by Jim Johnson's blitzes; they will come early, often, and from every direction.
If he responds successfully, we win.
9)
Non-sellout crowd with thousands of Eagles fans...THE most obnoxious in all of football.

Not worried about:
Kevin Williams, Jared Allen, Antoine Winfield, Ben Leber, Hutch, Shiancoe (refreshing isn't it?), AD, CT, Kleinny, Longwell.

phillyj
01-02-2009, 10:41 AM
Non-sellout crowd with thousands of Eagles fans...THE most obnoxious in all of football.

Come on, the nastiest yes, Oakland and their fake ass fans are obnoxious, we are just plain mean and nasty.

Marrdro
01-02-2009, 11:06 AM
"phillyj" wrote:




Non-sellout crowd with thousands of Eagles fans...THE most obnoxious in all of football.

Come on, the nastiest yes, Oakland and their fake jiggly butt fans are obnoxious, we are just plain mean and nasty.

I don't think there will be that many of them anyway.

If the economy is the big issue behind the lack of sales for local sports fans, how the hell can alot of Iggles fans afford the plane tickets, hotel rooms, rent a cars etc etc etc. ::)

jessejames09
01-02-2009, 11:13 AM
"phillyj" wrote:




Non-sellout crowd with thousands of Eagles fans...THE most obnoxious in all of football.

Come on, the nastiest yes, Oakland and their fake ass fans are obnoxious, we are just plain mean and nasty.


How are Oakland's fans fake? They root for the shittiest organization imaginable, anybody who pays to watch the raiders is a die hard.

phillyj
01-02-2009, 11:30 AM
"Marrdro" wrote:


"phillyj" wrote:




Non-sellout crowd with thousands of Eagles fans...THE most obnoxious in all of football.

Come on, the nastiest yes, Oakland and their fake jiggly butt fans are obnoxious, we are just plain mean and nasty.

I don't think there will be that many of them anyway.

If the economy is the big issue behind the lack of sales for local sports fans, how the hell can alot of Iggles fans afford the plane tickets, hotel rooms, rent a cars etc etc etc. ::)


You nkow how much iggle playoff tickets go for? and how quick they sell out? I am so excited as this will be my first playoff game and too not pay hundreds over face value.

I would be dissapointed if there is not at least 5k, I'm hopin for closer to 10k and if that happens it will be sweet.

TARKenton
01-02-2009, 11:30 AM
"Eldin" wrote:


If this game was in Philly, we'd be the underdog.
At home, I like our chances.







It's in Minnesota, and we are still the dog.
But I like that.
We play better when we the odds are against us.

Marrdro
01-02-2009, 11:32 AM
"phillyj" wrote:


"Marrdro" wrote:


"phillyj" wrote:




Non-sellout crowd with thousands of Eagles fans...THE most obnoxious in all of football.

Come on, the nastiest yes, Oakland and their fake jiggly butt fans are obnoxious, we are just plain mean and nasty.

I don't think there will be that many of them anyway.

If the economy is the big issue behind the lack of sales for local sports fans, how the hell can alot of Iggles fans afford the plane tickets, hotel rooms, rent a cars etc etc etc. ::)


You nkow how much iggle playoff tickets go for? and how quick they sell out? I am so excited as this will be my first playoff game and too not pay hundreds over face value.

I would be dissapointed if there is not at least 5k, I'm hopin for closer to 10k and if that happens it will be sweet.

Good point.

Another slam on the Vikings Fans.
Tickets are cheap
by most other teams standards.

phillyj
01-02-2009, 11:35 AM
the vikes should in no way be the underdogs, better record, home field, well 80% of the home field ;), won last 5 out 6.

phillyj
01-02-2009, 11:38 AM
"jessejames09" wrote:


"phillyj" wrote:




Non-sellout crowd with thousands of Eagles fans...THE most obnoxious in all of football.

Come on, the nastiest yes, Oakland and their fake jiggly butt fans are obnoxious, we are just plain mean and nasty.


How are Oakland's fans fake? They root for the shittiest organization imaginable, anybody who pays to watch the raiders is a die hard.


I've been to a game in L.A. they ain't as bad as advertised.

jessejames09
01-02-2009, 11:44 AM
"phillyj" wrote:


"jessejames09" wrote:


"phillyj" wrote:




Non-sellout crowd with thousands of Eagles fans...THE most obnoxious in all of football.

Come on, the nastiest yes, Oakland and their fake jiggly butt fans are obnoxious, we are just plain mean and nasty.


How are Oakland's fans fake? They root for the shittiest organization imaginable, anybody who pays to watch the raiders is a die hard.


I've been to a game in L.A. they ain't as bad as advertised.


So they're not fake 'fans,' they're fake assholes.

Must be some resentment between the 2 jerk fan-bases. I didn't know that was something fans should strive to be.

midgensa
01-02-2009, 11:50 AM
"NordicNed" wrote:


Right now, the biggest thing they have going for them is, their momentum....They are playing at a very high level of play right now, and that is always a good thing for any team.....
They definetly have us there, but as I always say, thats why we play the game.

On any given day, any team can beat any other team.

This game will come down to whoever makes the least amount of penaltys and turnovers.



I have posted before on this topic. Exactly what makes their momentum any better than ours? We won 5 of our last six with the one loss being to a playoff team. The Eagles are 4-2 in their last six with an AWFUL loss against the playoffless 8-8 Redskins. In the last half of the season we are 6-2 while the Eagles are 4-3-1. I don't see how they have so much momentum. Just because of a blowout win, in Philly over a non-playoff Cowboys team?
Momentum is not the problem. Our problem is match-ups in this game because we could have some problems keeping Donovan in check which will force our LBs to cover Westbrook and our CBs to cover the WRs for too long. If we can get to Donovan and contain him our defense will be fine.
On offense it is simply match-ups again, our receivers will have a tough time getting open, add in that blitz and throwing the ball could be tough. We need to beat their blitz with some well executed runs/screens early to at least make them back off a little and we should be golden.
Match-ups are where we need to worry. Not about the Eagles overhyped "momentum."

phillyj
01-02-2009, 11:53 AM
"jessejames09" wrote:


"phillyj" wrote:


"jessejames09" wrote:


"phillyj" wrote:




Non-sellout crowd with thousands of Eagles fans...THE most obnoxious in all of football.

Come on, the nastiest yes, Oakland and their fake jiggly butt fans are obnoxious, we are just plain mean and nasty.


How are Oakland's fans fake? They root for the shittiest organization imaginable, anybody who pays to watch the raiders is a die hard.


I've been to a game in L.A. they ain't as bad as advertised.


So they're not fake 'fans,' they're fake donkey butts.

Must be some resentment between the 2 jerk fan-bases. I didn't know that was something fans should strive to be.

Nice, jerks? yes some of our fans are, I'm sure I will see a small amount of "jerks" wearing purple on sunday. Really the majority of our fan base is the most passionate fans you will find in the country. I can't remember who said it in a book, but it went "Philadelphia fans could teach loyalty to a dog". We may boo, piss and moan at our own team, but thats our team, our players, our city. We love our teams a little too much sometimes. We want a winner and we want it now. These guys get paid a ton to play a sport, when they don't perform we don't sit there and take it, we let them know about it. You can ask, or see interviews of our present and former players, they know what to expect, and they know they have the ultimate home field advantage in philly.
When
I've been to a lot of other stadiums, I've had crap thrown at me, harrassed, for just cheering for a play or td. so spare me the jerk statement, every team/city has them.

i_bleed_purple
01-02-2009, 12:00 PM
back to topic, the only thing that worries me about Philly is their defense.
They're known for their blitz schemes, and TJ hasn't done terrifically well against the blitz, he gets nervous, doesn't make his progression and ends up throwing it away, lofting one over the middle, or running.
I bet they will blitz on almost every play to get into Jackson's head.
I have faith in AD to beat their blitz with the run, but we can't run every play.
We need the Jackson we've seen in the past 3 weeks to show up on sunday.

i_bleed_purple
01-02-2009, 12:01 PM
"phillyj" wrote:


"jessejames09" wrote:


"phillyj" wrote:


"jessejames09" wrote:


"phillyj" wrote:




Non-sellout crowd with thousands of Eagles fans...THE most obnoxious in all of football.

Come on, the nastiest yes, Oakland and their fake jiggly butt fans are obnoxious, we are just plain mean and nasty.


How are Oakland's fans fake? They root for the shittiest organization imaginable, anybody who pays to watch the raiders is a die hard.


I've been to a game in L.A. they ain't as bad as advertised.


So they're not fake 'fans,' they're fake donkey butts.

Must be some resentment between the 2 jerk fan-bases. I didn't know that was something fans should strive to be.

Nice, jerks? yes some of our fans are, I'm sure I will see a small amount of "jerks" wearing purple on sunday. Really the majority of our fan base is the most passionate fans you will find in the country. I can't remember who said it in a book, but it went "Philadelphia fans could teach loyalty to a dog". We may boo, piss and moan at our own team, but thats our team, our players, our city. We love our teams a little too much sometimes. We want a winner and we want it now. These guys get paid a ton to play a sport, when they don't perform we don't sit there and take it, we let them know about it. You can ask, or see interviews of our present and former players, they know what to expect, and they know they have the ultimate home field advantage in philly.
When
I've been to a lot of other stadiums, I've had crap thrown at me, harrassed, for just cheering for a play or td. so spare me the jerk statement, every team/city has them.


you want jerks?
How about cheering when an player on an opposing team is laying injured on the field?
Shows a lot of class right there.
because of that alone, Philly has gotten a reputation as one of the most "jerkiest" fanbases in the league.
Sure, not all fans are jerks, we're not implying you are or aren't, but it seems for every one who isn't, there's 2 who are.

Marrdro
01-02-2009, 12:05 PM
"i_bleed_purple" wrote:


back to topic, the only thing that worries me about Philly is their defense.
They're known for their blitz schemes, and TJ hasn't done terrifically well against the blitz, he gets nervous, doesn't make his progression and ends up throwing it away, lofting one over the middle, or running.
I bet they will blitz on almost every play to get into Jackson's head.
I have faith in AD to beat their blitz with the run, but we can't run every play.
We need the Jackson we've seen in the past 3 weeks to show up on sunday.

He didn't do to bad against the Giants last weekend.
A few blitz packages there....

Sajid28
01-02-2009, 12:05 PM
they do run a very well WCO which can cause problems for this defense. But my biggest concern is that Eagles Defense. Jim Johnson has been known to be one of the best in disguising his blitz' and with an inexperienced post season quarterback that can raise a big red flag. (not saying its his fualt, (Tjack lovers) but with him starting or gus starting, they share an inexperience in the postseason)

p.s. the regular season is way differerent from the post season. this is the time where our defense needs to just step up tremendously. offense wins games... defense wins championships!

i_bleed_purple
01-02-2009, 12:17 PM
"Marrdro" wrote:


"i_bleed_purple" wrote:


back to topic, the only thing that worries me about Philly is their defense.
They're known for their blitz schemes, and TJ hasn't done terrifically well against the blitz, he gets nervous, doesn't make his progression and ends up throwing it away, lofting one over the middle, or running.
I bet they will blitz on almost every play to get into Jackson's head.
I have faith in AD to beat their blitz with the run, but we can't run every play.
We need the Jackson we've seen in the past 3 weeks to show up on sunday.

He didn't do to bad against the Giants last weekend.
A few blitz packages there....


but you'll notice he had his worst game since taking over the starting job again.
New York also dropped 2 picks, which could have sealed the game for them.

Marrdro
01-02-2009, 12:19 PM
"i_bleed_purple" wrote:


"Marrdro" wrote:


"i_bleed_purple" wrote:


back to topic, the only thing that worries me about Philly is their defense.
They're known for their blitz schemes, and TJ hasn't done terrifically well against the blitz, he gets nervous, doesn't make his progression and ends up throwing it away, lofting one over the middle, or running.
I bet they will blitz on almost every play to get into Jackson's head.
I have faith in AD to beat their blitz with the run, but we can't run every play.
We need the Jackson we've seen in the past 3 weeks to show up on sunday.

He didn't do to bad against the Giants last weekend.
A few blitz packages there....


but you'll notice he had his worst game since taking over the starting job again.
New York also dropped 2 picks, which could have sealed the game for them.

Its all relevant don't you think?

The better the defense the more it will affect him.
Again, he didn't do to bad against the Giants. Got some nice reps, and now has that to draw from as he faces the Iggles who will throw about the same stuff at him.

As I've said, I don't worry about TJ, its our OL and if they can protect him that I worry about.

i_bleed_purple
01-02-2009, 12:22 PM
"Marrdro" wrote:


"i_bleed_purple" wrote:


"Marrdro" wrote:


"i_bleed_purple" wrote:


back to topic, the only thing that worries me about Philly is their defense.
They're known for their blitz schemes, and TJ hasn't done terrifically well against the blitz, he gets nervous, doesn't make his progression and ends up throwing it away, lofting one over the middle, or running.
I bet they will blitz on almost every play to get into Jackson's head.
I have faith in AD to beat their blitz with the run, but we can't run every play.
We need the Jackson we've seen in the past 3 weeks to show up on sunday.

He didn't do to bad against the Giants last weekend.
A few blitz packages there....


but you'll notice he had his worst game since taking over the starting job again.
New York also dropped 2 picks, which could have sealed the game for them.

Its all relevant don't you think?

The better the defense the more it will affect him.
Again, he didn't do to bad against the Giants. Got some nice reps, and now has that to draw from as he faces the Iggles who will throw about the same stuff at him.

As I've said, I don't worry about TJ, its our OL and if they can protect him that I worry about.


there will be times when any OL can't block the blitz.
If they send 6 guys, and we only have 5 blockers, there's a good chance one guy will be free, and TJ needs to make a quick decision.
Last Year, that would have been an automatic sack or fumble, this year he's doing a much better job, but he still looks jumpy at times.

Marrdro
01-02-2009, 12:39 PM
"i_bleed_purple" wrote:


"Marrdro" wrote:


"i_bleed_purple" wrote:


"Marrdro" wrote:


"i_bleed_purple" wrote:


back to topic, the only thing that worries me about Philly is their defense.
They're known for their blitz schemes, and TJ hasn't done terrifically well against the blitz, he gets nervous, doesn't make his progression and ends up throwing it away, lofting one over the middle, or running.
I bet they will blitz on almost every play to get into Jackson's head.
I have faith in AD to beat their blitz with the run, but we can't run every play.
We need the Jackson we've seen in the past 3 weeks to show up on sunday.

He didn't do to bad against the Giants last weekend.
A few blitz packages there....


but you'll notice he had his worst game since taking over the starting job again.
New York also dropped 2 picks, which could have sealed the game for them.

Its all relevant don't you think?

The better the defense the more it will affect him.
Again, he didn't do to bad against the Giants. Got some nice reps, and now has that to draw from as he faces the Iggles who will throw about the same stuff at him.

As I've said, I don't worry about TJ, its our OL and if they can protect him that I worry about.


there will be times when any OL can't block the blitz.
If they send 6 guys, and we only have 5 blockers, there's a good chance one guy will be free, and TJ needs to make a quick decision.
Last Year, that would have been an automatic sack or fumble, this year he's doing a much better job, but he still looks jumpy at times.


LOL.
You would look jumpy to with those guys coming after you....... ;D

JK, great post.


Agree, the goal of the blitz is to send more than we have to block with, however, if the C and QB make the proper pre-snap read, that shouldn't be an issue.
They just need to slide the line or help out with a RB/FB/TE so that it is picked up.

i_bleed_purple
01-02-2009, 12:58 PM
"Marrdro" wrote:


"i_bleed_purple" wrote:


"Marrdro" wrote:


"i_bleed_purple" wrote:


"Marrdro" wrote:




back to topic, the only thing that worries me about Philly is their defense.
They're known for their blitz schemes, and TJ hasn't done terrifically well against the blitz, he gets nervous, doesn't make his progression and ends up throwing it away, lofting one over the middle, or running.
I bet they will blitz on almost every play to get into Jackson's head.
I have faith in AD to beat their blitz with the run, but we can't run every play.
We need the Jackson we've seen in the past 3 weeks to show up on sunday.

He didn't do to bad against the Giants last weekend.
A few blitz packages there....


but you'll notice he had his worst game since taking over the starting job again.
New York also dropped 2 picks, which could have sealed the game for them.

Its all relevant don't you think?

The better the defense the more it will affect him.
Again, he didn't do to bad against the Giants. Got some nice reps, and now has that to draw from as he faces the Iggles who will throw about the same stuff at him.

As I've said, I don't worry about TJ, its our OL and if they can protect him that I worry about.


there will be times when any OL can't block the blitz.
If they send 6 guys, and we only have 5 blockers, there's a good chance one guy will be free, and TJ needs to make a quick decision.
Last Year, that would have been an automatic sack or fumble, this year he's doing a much better job, but he still looks jumpy at times.


LOL.
You would look jumpy to with those guys coming after you....... ;D

JK, great post.


Agree, the goal of the blitz is to send more than we have to block with, however, if the C and QB make the proper pre-snap read, that shouldn't be an issue.
They just need to slide the line or help out with a RB/FB/TE so that it is picked up.


key word is IF.
You've been harping on Birk for that very reason this season, and TJ still has work to do.

Marrdro
01-02-2009, 01:10 PM
"i_bleed_purple" wrote:


"Marrdro" wrote:


"i_bleed_purple" wrote:


"Marrdro" wrote:


"i_bleed_purple" wrote:






back to topic, the only thing that worries me about Philly is their defense.
They're known for their blitz schemes, and TJ hasn't done terrifically well against the blitz, he gets nervous, doesn't make his progression and ends up throwing it away, lofting one over the middle, or running.
I bet they will blitz on almost every play to get into Jackson's head.
I have faith in AD to beat their blitz with the run, but we can't run every play.
We need the Jackson we've seen in the past 3 weeks to show up on sunday.

He didn't do to bad against the Giants last weekend.
A few blitz packages there....


but you'll notice he had his worst game since taking over the starting job again.
New York also dropped 2 picks, which could have sealed the game for them.

Its all relevant don't you think?

The better the defense the more it will affect him.
Again, he didn't do to bad against the Giants. Got some nice reps, and now has that to draw from as he faces the Iggles who will throw about the same stuff at him.

As I've said, I don't worry about TJ, its our OL and if they can protect him that I worry about.


there will be times when any OL can't block the blitz.
If they send 6 guys, and we only have 5 blockers, there's a good chance one guy will be free, and TJ needs to make a quick decision.
Last Year, that would have been an automatic sack or fumble, this year he's doing a much better job, but he still looks jumpy at times.


LOL.
You would look jumpy to with those guys coming after you....... ;D

JK, great post.


Agree, the goal of the blitz is to send more than we have to block with, however, if the C and QB make the proper pre-snap read, that shouldn't be an issue.
They just need to slide the line or help out with a RB/FB/TE so that it is picked up.


key word is IF.
You've been harping on Birk for that very reason this season, and TJ still has work to do.

Optimistic Marrdro is out in force today my friend..... Giving both of them the benifit of the doubt.
;D

C Mac D
01-02-2009, 01:49 PM
Their offense and defense.

keystonevike
01-02-2009, 01:56 PM
Their defense is very good, but they sometimes forget about the tight end. Shiancoe has been a beast for us. Vikes know the blitz is coming, could slow it down with screens and draws. If AD can get past the first wave, he's gone.

keystonevike
01-02-2009, 02:08 PM
"phillyj" wrote:




Non-sellout crowd with thousands of Eagles fans...THE most obnoxious in all of football.

Come on, the nastiest yes, Oakland and their fake jiggly butt fans are obnoxious, we are just plain mean and nasty.

Come on. At the old Vet, a NY Giants fan was thrown down the stadium steps. That's beyond mean and nasty.

Purplemania
01-02-2009, 02:31 PM
Another way to beat Philly's exotic blitz scheme is to for our WR's to win some battles. I say the first time they blitz, chunk it deep for Berrian!

Prophet
01-02-2009, 02:32 PM
"C" wrote:


Their offense and defense.


...and special teams.
Will be a good game.

gregair13
01-02-2009, 03:18 PM
Run blitzes.

MaxVike
01-02-2009, 03:21 PM
Several Players worry me...

1)
Trent Cole - lightning fast off the edge (McKinnie's side mostly), non-stop motor.
One of the most underrated players in the NFL IMO.
2)
Asante Samuel - playmaker in every defensive situation.
Reminds one of Winfield with ball hawking skills similar to Ed Reed.
This kid makes play after play.
3)
Brian Dawkins - heart and soul of the Eagles defense.
Some say he has lost a step...judge for yourself; I think not.
When he blitzes, TJack must find Shiancoe in the seam.
4)
Westbrook - we didn't have an answer for him last year.
Even if we hold him to zero yards rushing, he can kill us in the passing game.
5)
McNabb - uber hot since his benching a few weeks back.
He has rediscovered his running ability.
6)
DeSaun Jackson - leading receiver, lightning in a bottle...can go to the house anytime he touches the ball; including punt returns.

Other factors:
1)
Turnovers - the fact that the Vikes are the only Playoff Team with a negative TO ratio is an indication to me of how damn good we could be if that aspect was improved.
Good time to start.
2)
Thousands of Philly fans in the stands.
Philly fans have life after the Phillies won the World Series...they will be there, they will be obnoxious.
3)
Blitzkrieg - if Jackson and AD (with OLine help, of course) are able to answer with big plays, we win.
If not, we don't.

Should be a close game unless we turn the ball over.

El Vikingo
01-02-2009, 04:24 PM
QNjLUPqckWY

James Taylor was an eagle fan
and sang things like this

El Vikingo
01-02-2009, 04:29 PM
it was on his MIND .We win

TheVike1
01-02-2009, 08:17 PM
WESTBROOK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Nuff said period gotta stop him discussion over ! :((((((

V4L
01-02-2009, 08:18 PM
Im just worried about him catching balls outta the backfield

he isn't a great runner

Good.. But nothing we can't stop

he will smoke us in the passing game if he has a big impact on the game

2beersTommy
01-02-2009, 08:20 PM
a defense that blitzes like a mother-fucker.

BloodyHorns82
01-02-2009, 08:27 PM
Not to mention a shit load of fans from Philly coming out to support their team.

:P

ADMVP
01-02-2009, 09:07 PM
we dont need to worry about westbrook he has been a non facter all year and we have the best run d in the nfl. Mcnabb is the biggest concern because all quaterbacks seem to play well against us (Culpepper, carr etc). and last year mcnabb had his way with the vikes. i think we can contain him, but he worries me more than the over-rated migit westbrook

Purple Floyd
01-02-2009, 09:10 PM
Their coaching staff.

Vikes_King
01-02-2009, 09:14 PM
"ADMVP" wrote:


we dont need to worry about westbrook he has been a non facter all year and we have the best run d in the nfl. Mcnabb is the biggest concern because all quaterbacks seem to play well against us (Culpepper, carr etc). and last year mcnabb had his way with the vikes. i think we can contain him, but he worries me more than the over-rated migit westbrook


a guy that has 14 TDs on the year isn't "non facter"

VikingMike
01-02-2009, 09:47 PM
"Vikes_King" wrote:


"ADMVP" wrote:


we dont need to worry about westbrook he has been a non facter all year and we have the best run d in the nfl. Mcnabb is the biggest concern because all quaterbacks seem to play well against us (Culpepper, carr etc). and last year mcnabb had his way with the vikes. i think we can contain him, but he worries me more than the over-rated migit westbrook


a guy that has 14 TDs on the year isn't "non facter"



Yeah, take a look at the Eagles win over the Giants...they had no answer for Westbrook. I sure hope we do.

ADMVP
01-02-2009, 09:56 PM
Westbrook is averaging 4.0 yards per carry this season, pretty mediocre. Vikes are the best against the run which means no running back is a factor, Especially with pat back

SKOL
01-02-2009, 09:57 PM
"VikingMike" wrote:


"Vikes_King" wrote:


"ADMVP" wrote:


we dont need to worry about westbrook he has been a non facter all year and we have the best run d in the nfl. Mcnabb is the biggest concern because all quaterbacks seem to play well against us (Culpepper, carr etc). and last year mcnabb had his way with the vikes. i think we can contain him, but he worries me more than the over-rated migit westbrook


a guy that has 14 TDs on the year isn't "non facter"



Yeah, take a look at the Eagles win over the Giants...they had no answer for Westbrook. I sure hope we do.


Westbrook seems at his best when he slithers through the line on pass plays after everyone's already committed to defending the long and intermediate passes.
We should assign our MLB as a scout with one assignment... chuck the guy to the ground if he's not blocking in the backfield.

TheVike1
01-02-2009, 10:39 PM
again NUFFF SAID mark these words WESSSSSSSSTBBBBBBBBBRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOK!

phillyj
01-02-2009, 10:45 PM
"TheVike1" wrote:


again NUFFF SAID mark these words WESSSSSSSSTBBBBBBBBBRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOK!


shhhhhhhhhhhhhh maybe the vikes coaching staff will be that blind also and not bother with westy.

VikesFan787
01-02-2009, 10:48 PM
"ADMVP" wrote:


Westbrook is averaging 4.0 yards per carry this season, pretty mediocre. Vikes are the best against the run which means no running back is a factor, Especially with pat back

But now Ray Edwards is out.

phillyj
01-02-2009, 10:51 PM
It's BRIAN FREAKIN WESTBROOK!!!! you may want to watch him even if the Purple Jesus suited up for the game.

fourdoorchevelle
01-02-2009, 11:59 PM
how i see it :

tjack must hit the hot routes and deep 1vs1's -

if he starts throwing the ball as hes falling down i see pick 6's. to me its not as much about blocking the blitz but making them pay for it. nothing like beating an all out blitz for big plays to make them think twice about bringing the house.

must establish the run -

if the run is bottled up , its going to be a long day with atleast a couple of picks. get the lb's and secondary second guessing their first move , get em running the wrong way with PA and tjack will have a much better chance of running for first downs and finding the open recievers.

ball control -

tire the defence , make mcnabb bored. keeping the eagles o on the side line will be the easiest way of stopping westbrook/mcnabb.

turn overs-

dont give them short fields , this has been a viking killer all year long. it also can really hurt momentum tons when giving them the ball when we are ready to score. if we can get the turnovers and turn them into points especially early can put the game out of reach early.... see cardinals game

containment -

stay in your lanes and dont over pursue. this is going to be key on the longer third downs . they arent going to run up the middle as much as some might think even if pat is out . stay in your lanes and keep westbrook from finding the edge. look for more off tackle more than a or b gap attacks.

westbrook / mcnabb-

bend but dont break. keep the big plays incheck and they will faulter. WRAP UP!!!! must come out tackling. if westbrook is breaking tackles left and right , then look for the big plays . if the first defender is able to keep a hold of the ball carrier look for 3 & outs

some 1 must cover westbrook.
this guy out of the back field is my biggest defnsive concern. if 52 is assigned to him all day then hes going to be doing alot of running. some 1 must cover him , im not sure if we have some 1 capable. covering westbrook is key.

PRESSURE ! PRESSURE!! PRESSURE!!!-

dont give the qb all day to throw . this will be the ultimate factor in how we cover the pass.

VikingMike
01-03-2009, 12:10 AM
"SKOL" wrote:


"VikingMike" wrote:


"Vikes_King" wrote:


"ADMVP" wrote:


we dont need to worry about westbrook he has been a non facter all year and we have the best run d in the nfl. Mcnabb is the biggest concern because all quaterbacks seem to play well against us (Culpepper, carr etc). and last year mcnabb had his way with the vikes. i think we can contain him, but he worries me more than the over-rated migit westbrook


a guy that has 14 TDs on the year isn't "non facter"



Yeah, take a look at the Eagles win over the Giants...they had no answer for Westbrook. I sure hope we do.


Westbrook seems at his best when he slithers through the line on pass plays after everyone's already committed to defending the long and intermediate passes.
We should assign our MLB as a scout with one assignment... chuck the guy to the ground if he's not blocking in the backfield.



Giants tried that with their MLB Pierce and he ate him up on plays exactly as you described. We'll need a quicker guy (Madieu or maybe a nickel back) to shadow him.

VikingMike
01-03-2009, 12:12 AM
"MaxVike" wrote:


Several Players worry me...

1)
Trent Cole - lightning fast off the edge (McKinnie's side mostly), non-stop motor.
One of the most underrated players in the NFL IMO.
2)
Asante Samuel - playmaker in every defensive situation.
Reminds one of Winfield with ball hawking skills similar to Ed Reed.
This kid makes play after play.
3)
Brian Dawkins - heart and soul of the Eagles defense.
Some say he has lost a step...judge for yourself; I think not.
When he blitzes, TJack must find Shiancoe in the seam.
4)
Westbrook - we didn't have an answer for him last year.
Even if we hold him to zero yards rushing, he can kill us in the passing game.
5)
McNabb - uber hot since his benching a few weeks back.
He has rediscovered his running ability.
6)
DeSaun Jackson - leading receiver, lightning in a bottle...can go to the house anytime he touches the ball; including punt returns.

Other factors:
1)
Turnovers - the fact that the Vikes are the only Playoff Team with a negative TO ratio is an indication to me of how damn good we could be if that aspect was improved.
Good time to start.
2)
Thousands of Philly fans in the stands.
Philly fans have life after the Phillies won the World Series...they will be there, they will be obnoxious.
3)
Blitzkrieg - if Jackson and AD (with OLine help, of course) are able to answer with big plays, we win.
If not, we don't.

Should be a close game unless we turn the ball over.



Very nice analysis MaxVike. TJ had better watch out for Dawkins...he's a helluva hitter.

marshallvike
01-03-2009, 12:30 AM
"VikingMike" wrote:


"MaxVike" wrote:


Several Players worry me...

1)
Trent Cole - lightning fast off the edge (McKinnie's side mostly), non-stop motor.
One of the most underrated players in the NFL IMO.
2)
Asante Samuel - playmaker in every defensive situation.
Reminds one of Winfield with ball hawking skills similar to Ed Reed.
This kid makes play after play.
3)
Brian Dawkins - heart and soul of the Eagles defense.
Some say he has lost a step...judge for yourself; I think not.
When he blitzes, TJack must find Shiancoe in the seam.
4)
Westbrook - we didn't have an answer for him last year.
Even if we hold him to zero yards rushing, he can kill us in the passing game.
5)
McNabb - uber hot since his benching a few weeks back.
He has rediscovered his running ability.
6)
DeSaun Jackson - leading receiver, lightning in a bottle...can go to the house anytime he touches the ball; including punt returns.

Other factors:
1)
Turnovers - the fact that the Vikes are the only Playoff Team with a negative TO ratio is an indication to me of how gol 'darnit good we could be if that aspect was improved.
Good time to start.
2)
Thousands of Philly fans in the stands.
Philly fans have life after the Phillies won the World Series...they will be there, they will be obnoxious.
3)
Blitzkrieg - if Jackson and AD (with OLine help, of course) are able to answer with big plays, we win.
If not, we don't.

Should be a close game unless we turn the ball over.



Very nice analysis MaxVike. TJ had better watch out for Dawkins...he's a helluva hitter.


yeah,

good points.


vikes win 38-13

Brewtal
01-03-2009, 02:30 AM
Coaching and Special Teams will decide this game.
I believe we have a more tallented Defence, the offence has been playing solid lately, no fumbles and TJ shows up playing like he has been we have a shot.


Childress can be a game changer and I belive philly can toy with Childress all day, secondly we just can not keep giving up the ball at midfield every time we kick.
If Childress can find a way to not get outcoached and the special teams show up we will win.

phillyj
01-03-2009, 09:04 AM
"Brewtal" wrote:


Coaching and Special Teams will decide this game.
I believe we have a more tallented Defence, the offence has been playing solid lately, no fumbles and TJ shows up playing like he has been we have a shot.


Childress can be a game changer and I belive philly can toy with Childress all day, secondly we just can not keep giving up the ball at midfield every time we kick.
If Childress can find a way to not get outcoached and the special teams show up we will win.


Let me introduce you to Mr. Reid, the coach who throws 75% of the time when there is 45 mph. winds. Our coach can find a way to get out coached by Rich Kotite.

Sidewindor
01-03-2009, 09:08 AM
"phillyj" wrote:


Let me introduce you to Mr. Reid, the coach who throws 75% of the time when there is 45 mph. winds. Our coach can find a way to get out coached by Rich Kotite.


My famous Eagles line;

"Philadelphia Eagles: snatching defeat out of the jaws of victory"

I seriously think that IF Reid throws a tandem of Westbrook and Buckhalter, we will win this game. The Eagles need to be committed to the running game, regardless of the early results. We have one of the more impressive tandems at RB in the league, when they are utilized. A consistant running game opens up the passing game. That's football 101. Hopefully this is the case on Sunday.

phillyj
01-03-2009, 09:22 AM
Don't bet on it, and if it doesn't happen get ready for the press confrence:

Reid: " grumble grumble, cough I need to put the guys in a better position to win, cough grumble cough"

Sidewindor
01-03-2009, 09:42 AM
"phillyj" wrote:


Don't bet on it, and if it doesn't happen get ready for the press confrence:

Reid: " grumble grumble, cough I need to put the guys in a better position to win, cough grumble cough"


"We need to do a better job there."
"I'll take responsibility there."

and my favorite

"Time's your's"

Big C
01-03-2009, 10:56 AM
I'm afraid Mr Reid will call a balanced game because Edwards is out and Pat will be limited at best.

The 3 things the Eagles will bring:
1. Blitz - This will cause a few stalled drives. The key though is for TJ to NOT fumble the ball and be patient. He tends to be a little careless with the ball when scrambling to buy time. If TJ can handle the pressure, take a sack or two WITHOUT turning the ball over, we will keep the game close and always within a score.

2. Westbrook - We haven't played a RB with this much yards after the catch this season. He is the key to the offense. If we can make him a non-factor we should win. We have done a descent job of shutting down playmakers but none of them have been a dual threat RB (run + pass). The closest thing we have played is Forte.

3. Mobile McNabb - The only reason we lost the Bucs game was because of Garcia's mobility extending some plays a few extra seconds and making 1 or 2 key plays.

I am expecting the Philly game to be a mirror of the Bucs game. An ugly, physical, defensive game where one big play will determine the victor.

Our secret weapon is Chestor Taylor IF we choose to use him. He has always had success when AP is stopped and has made some KEY plays throughout the season that have contributed to our 10 wins. We haven't used him the last 2 games that much. I hope it was to keep him fresh and to use him as a trump card in the playoffs. Kind of like how Kevin Faulk is an underrated weapon during the Pats playoff games.

TheVike1
01-03-2009, 05:35 PM
problem is don t count on chilly dip to use CT too bad for us AGAIN!!!!!!!!!1

gamecocksbaseball31
01-03-2009, 07:20 PM
There are two things I would love to see the Vikes do to counter Philly.


1) would be to come out with Chester and All Day in the backfield a lot.
This gives them two RB's to pick up blitzes which gives Berrian one-on-one coverage on the outside.
It also gives the option to run it or throw the screens and swings.

2)
No huddle could be a very helpful tool this weekend.
With Philly wanting to blitz a ton, try and take them out of their game by using the no huddle and running it down their throats all day.


Now do I expect either of these two things to happen... Probably not.
Especially with inexperienced TJack in the game.
I still believe that this should be a big game for Chilly because I think his job should be on the line.
A loss should oust him.

MaxVike
01-03-2009, 08:17 PM
"VikingMike" wrote:


Westbrook, a QB who can keep the play alive, and Johnson's D...that's enough.


Yeah, short, sweet, pretty much sums it up...nicely done.
I only like our chances if we win the TO battle.
Although, I'm partying differently right now!
Go Colts!!!

SKOL
01-03-2009, 08:59 PM
"Sidewindor" wrote:


"phillyj" wrote:


Let me introduce you to Mr. Reid, the coach who throws 75% of the time when there is 45 mph. winds. Our coach can find a way to get out coached by Rich Kotite.


My famous Eagles line;

"Philadelphia Eagles: snatching defeat out of the jaws of victory"


Need I remind you that the Chiller tutored under Reid?

Vikes
01-03-2009, 09:46 PM
Nothing we cannot dwal with!!!!!!!!

SKOL!

phillyj
01-04-2009, 05:55 AM
"SKOL" wrote:


"Sidewindor" wrote:


"phillyj" wrote:


Let me introduce you to Mr. Reid, the coach who throws 75% of the time when there is 45 mph. winds. Our coach can find a way to get out coached by Rich Kotite.


My famous Eagles line;

"Philadelphia Eagles: snatching defeat out of the jaws of victory"


Need I remind you that the Chiller tutored under Reid?


No one does it like the master!!!!

Purple Floyd
01-04-2009, 12:38 PM
"phillyj" wrote:


"SKOL" wrote:


"Sidewindor" wrote:


"phillyj" wrote:


Let me introduce you to Mr. Reid, the coach who throws 75% of the time when there is 45 mph. winds. Our coach can find a way to get out coached by Rich Kotite.


My famous Eagles line;

"Philadelphia Eagles: snatching defeat out of the jaws of victory"


Need I remind you that the Chiller tutored under Reid?


No one does it like the master!!!!


Is that what Reid says every time he faces Holmgren?