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StillPurple
10-25-2008, 02:11 PM
I have to admit this. I used to be a total nut Vikings fan. I would literally live and die with the team.

Recently, and I would say that this began when Brad came in and Culpepper and Moss left, and Childress came in and brought Bevell, and the stacked box, and lack of offense, etc. etc. ...

... it hit me today: I have just lost the Passion !! God, this sucks too. I actually said to my dad today: When I watch a Vikings game now, I kind of expect them to probably lose, and it doesn't rattle me that much when they do.

Wow. I got that out. Does anyone feel this way on here ?

erik5032
10-25-2008, 02:18 PM
"StillPurple" wrote:


I have to admit this. I used to be a total nut Vikings fan. I would literally live and die with the team.

Recently, and I would say that this began when Brad came in and Culpepper and Moss left, and Childress came in and brought Bevell, and the stacked box, and lack of offense, etc. etc. ...

... it hit me today: I have just lost the Passion !! God, this sucks too. I actually said to my dad today: When I watch a Vikings game now, I kind of expect them to probably lose, and it doesn't rattle me that much when they do.

Wow. I got that out. Does anyone feel this way on here ?


Well, I would not say I lost the passion, because i freaken love watching them, cant get enough, BUT! they have seriously disappointed me... it is becoming like you said "Expecting them to lose" it doesn't rattle me anymore... im just like whatever. But i have not lost passion, just the outward expressions of that passion.

Mr-holland
10-25-2008, 02:26 PM
Look, every team will have times where they struggle. Would you like to be a Lions fan instead?
They got reasons to comlain..

things will turn around. Is it next game, next season or over 10 years..

duvaldomo
10-25-2008, 02:33 PM
when we lose I said fucc the vikings im never watching any more of their games. Next week I do the same. I love cheering for them, I just hope we an pull it together and start winning constantly. Even if we dont I dont think I will ever lose the passion

StillPurple
10-25-2008, 02:37 PM
You are right. It could be a LOT worse. I could be a Bengals or Lions fan. Being a Seahawks fan would also really blow this year. At least the Vikings are competitive. I do enjoy watching the defense. It is just, if I have to watch, "off-tackle left" with AD running into a stacked box, I will want to take my own life.
::)

huxx
10-25-2008, 02:38 PM
Once a fan, always a fan.
I'll never switch to the dark side...

Bleedin Purple
10-25-2008, 03:01 PM
Yea I agree with you man, when they are losing, im like F this they suck I need a new team.
But I only say stuff like that because im mad and expect more from them...I will never lose my Viking passion and they will always be my only team good or bad, even though on game day I can say some bad things against them or the coach or whatever.

Purple Floyd
10-25-2008, 04:01 PM
I will never lose passion for the team.

I do hold high expectations for the staff and the FO to put a championship caliber team out there but whether they win or lose this is still my team and always will be.

MaxVike
10-25-2008, 04:14 PM
NEVER will I or have I lost my fandome
>:(.
I've maintained it through 40 years, even through the Les Steckel experiment ::).


I've survived the Super Bowl losses, the Hail Mary, the drop, the miss, drafting Darrin Nelson while Marcus Allen was on the board, the trade, the Troy Williamson experiment, among countless others.

NEVER, will I lose my fandome.

2beersTommy
10-25-2008, 04:18 PM
Ive lost the passion..thats why I'm going to cheer for the REAL team from Minnesota..THE GOPHERS!!

Purple Floyd
10-25-2008, 04:44 PM
"MaxVike" wrote:


NEVER will I or have I lost my fandome
>:(.
I've maintained it through 40 years, even through the Les Steckel experiment ::).


I've survived the Super Bowl losses, the Hail Mary, the drop, the miss, drafting Darrin Nelson while Marcus Allen was on the board, the trade, the Troy Williamson experiment, among countless others.

NEVER, will I lose my fandome.


+1

kevoncox
10-25-2008, 04:46 PM
My only problem with the Vikes is the mediocrity. That makes for a boring franchise. They aren't bad enough to initiate sweeping changes that may give you the fan hope for the future and they arent good enough to win it all.

I haven't lost the passing, I'm just bored of being 8 and 8 or 7 and 9 or 9 and 7.
Look at the major news sites, we haven't been a major story in a long time. It seems like we only make the news when our players beat up bouncers.

V4L
10-25-2008, 04:47 PM
I can't blame you

Doesn't mean you aren't a fan or anything

But I am still as passionate about the Vikes as I was when I was 2

I just love arguing with Packer fans and the feeling of walking into the dome or waking up on Sundays ready to watch a game

grpape
10-25-2008, 07:32 PM
"V4L" wrote:


I can't blame you

Doesn't mean you aren't a fan or anything

But I am still as passionate about the Vikes as I was when I was 2

I just love arguing with Packer fans and the feeling of walking into the dome or waking up on Sundays ready to watch a game


Ahhh...... Wake and Bake Sundays!

V4L
10-25-2008, 07:57 PM
"grpape" wrote:


"V4L" wrote:


I can't blame you

Doesn't mean you aren't a fan or anything

But I am still as passionate about the Vikes as I was when I was 2

I just love arguing with Packer fans and the feeling of walking into the dome or waking up on Sundays ready to watch a game


Ahhh...... Wake and Bake Sundays!



Hahaha

I miss those from time to time my friend

COJOMAY
10-25-2008, 08:07 PM
I totally understand your feelings because I have the same. Don't get me wrong, but I am simply "tired" of seeing the same old crap out of them game after game. Not much to get excited about.
Maybe it's just that the Gophers are a more exciting game in town this year and as a former U of M graduate, I am excited about their season. I guess I must have the same disease a lot of others do...It's called being a "Fair Weather Fan." Well, after being a passionate Vikings fan for over 40 years I guess I can afford to lose some of my excitement until things turn around.

Mr Anderson
10-25-2008, 08:27 PM
If anything, I'd say I'm more passionate now...

maybe I'm just angrier
:-

Caine
10-25-2008, 08:31 PM
I don't think it's a case of being a "fair weather fan", nor do I think it's a case of losing "passion"....I think that what we're ALL experiencing is a side effect of the Brad Childress regime.


We've lost Hope!!!

Not too many of us have any real confidence in the ability of this team to perform at a high level with any kind of regularity.
We've watched the same craptacular offense (You know, the "kickass" one that can't generate points...unless we're playing Chicago) for 2 1/2 years, and it hasn't gotten any better than that first game.


We've watched that same cover 2 "let's not change things up" Defense get thrown on year after year.
No one can run on it....but then, no one has to.

Every time we think we're about to turn the corner...SLAM!!!

When McCombs was here, we wanted HIM gone....we got rid of him and we all figured that we'd FINALLY field a Defense...then Tice got canned, and in comes The Chiller...so the Defense got better but the Offense blows....and we can't get a QB to save our souls...and AP can't carry the Offense alone, then they're not even using him....and Childress is a floopin tard....and Bevell is a waste of space....and the Defense can't seem to stop a troop of girlscouts anymore....and we barely beat Detroit (WTF?!?!?!?)...and we haven't beaten Green Bay in THREE FRIGGIN YEARS....and Brad Childress masturbates on pictures of Red (Blows goats) McCombs....and Zygi doesn't fire Childress and give us hope that he FINALLY gets the fact that Childress sucks wang....and we STILL don't have a QB.....and we can't get a stadium so they might be in LA anyway....and don't get me started on our special teams......and....and....and....



...and we have no hope anymore.
With Tice, we had hope.
We weren't there yet, but we were getting closer every year, and you could SEE the progress being made.
Then Chiller got here, and we went to crap INSTANTLY and stayed there.

So, again, I don't think we've lost "passion", we simply have nothing to be passionate about.
We've been Chillified...and until that hamster-poking tard gets escorted out of town, we aren't going to have anything to get excited about.

Caine

MaxVike
10-25-2008, 09:10 PM
"Mr" wrote:


If anything, I'd say I'm more passionate now...

maybe I'm just angrier
:-\


True that.
In the immortal words of Jimmy Valvano..."Never give up, never give up."
My guess, Mr Anderson, is that you played the game like I did...I never helped up the schmuck I tackled, and, never, ever said "take me out, I'm hurt."

Come on guys, buck up, this is absurd!
We have great tradition, upside, the best DT's in the League, the best RB in the League...stop this, just stop.


I will gurarantee that I've been through more pain than at least two-thirds of PP.O.


Disappointed in the season so far, yep.
Want to see 10-6, 11-5, 12-4...ah, yeah.
Deterred, no f-ing way.
I think I see what Chilly and the FO are trying to do...they appear to have missed on TJack...so far.
That's just my opinion, doesn't mean that I'm not 100% behind the Team.

Good grief, the dude from Winnepeg went to New England to embrace Randy Moss...in the new Foxboro for Christ's sake.
Losing the Passion?
Please.

singersp
10-25-2008, 09:21 PM
"Caine" wrote:


(snip)

...and we have no hope anymore.
With Tice, we had hope.
We weren't there yet, but we were getting closer every year, and you could SEE the progress being made.
Then Chiller got here, and we went to crap INSTANTLY and stayed there.

So, again, I don't think we've lost "passion", we simply have nothing to be passionate about.
We've been Chillified...and until that hamster-poking tard gets escorted out of town, we aren't going to have anything to get excited about.

Caine


I thought I was the only one who saw that. Tice & Tomlin would have been nice in 2006.

NDVikingFan66
10-25-2008, 09:40 PM
"Caine" wrote:


I don't think it's a case of being a "fair weather fan", nor do I think it's a case of losing "passion"....I think that what we're ALL experiencing is a side effect of the Brad Childress regime.


We've lost Hope!!!

Not too many of us have any real confidence in the ability of this team to perform at a high level with any kind of regularity.
We've watched the same craptacular offense (You know, the "kickass" one that can't generate points...unless we're playing Chicago) for 2 1/2 years, and it hasn't gotten any better than that first game.


We've watched that same cover 2 "let's not change things up" Defense get thrown on year after year.
No one can run on it....but then, no one has to.

Every time we think we're about to turn the corner...SLAM!!!

When McCombs was here, we wanted HIM gone....we got rid of him and we all figured that we'd FINALLY field a Defense...then Tice got canned, and in comes The Chiller...so the Defense got better but the Offense blows....and we can't get a QB to save our souls...and AP can't carry the Offense alone, then they're not even using him....and Childress is a floopin tard....and Bevell is a waste of space....and the Defense can't seem to stop a troop of girlscouts anymore....and we barely beat Detroit (WTF?!?!?!?)...and we haven't beaten Green Bay in THREE FRIGGIN YEARS....and Brad Childress masturbates on pictures of Red (Blows goats) McCombs....and Zygi doesn't fire Childress and give us hope that he FINALLY gets the fact that Childress sucks wang....and we STILL don't have a QB.....and we can't get a stadium so they might be in LA anyway....and don't get me started on our special teams......and....and....and....



...and we have no hope anymore.
With Tice, we had hope.
We weren't there yet, but we were getting closer every year, and you could SEE the progress being made.
Then Chiller got here, and we went to crap INSTANTLY and stayed there.

So, again, I don't think we've lost "passion", we simply have nothing to be passionate about.
We've been Chillified...and until that hamster-poking tard gets escorted out of town, we aren't going to have anything to get excited about.

Caine


Very interesting rant....well said

JPPT1974
10-25-2008, 09:47 PM
Well, hopefully the Vikes and their fans
Aren't losing the passion. Just
Hopefully, they can regain it!

singersp
10-25-2008, 09:59 PM
"Caine" wrote:



.....We've lost Hope!!!.....



I haven't lost hope.

I hope Childress is fired on Christmas Eve

I hope Bevell is canned for impersonating an OC

I hope we can get a real QB's coach in here that can actually develope a franchise QB.

I hope the defensive scheme is altered to use the strengths of our players.

I hope the O-line scheme is changed back to what our line knows, understands & can execute.

I hope some flavor is added to our Vanilla offense by our new OC that knows how to utilize our offensive weapons.

I hope Cower can bring it all together for us & hire coaches capable of doing their jobs rather than hire "friends" as Childress did.

Mr Anderson
10-25-2008, 10:12 PM
"singersp" wrote:


"Caine" wrote:



.....We've lost Hope!!!.....



I haven't lost hope.

I hope Childress is fired on Christmas Eve

I hope Bevell is canned for impersonating an OC

I hope we can get a real QB's coach in here that can actually develope a franchise QB.

I hope the defensive scheme is altered to use the strengths of our players.

I hope the O-line scheme is changed back to what our line knows, understands & can execute.

I hope some flavor is added to our Vanilla offense by our new OC that knows how to utilize our offensive weapons.

I hope Cower can bring it all together for us & hire coaches capable of doing their jobs rather than hire "friends" as Childress did.


I agree with everything you said except for the O-line scheme, I think it would hurt more than it helps at this point to switch back to a man blocking scheme at this point.

So get rid of that, add "hope for a cowboys super bowl win," and change Cowher to Jason Garrett and I couldn't have said it better myself.


- Let me explain the Cowboys comment. For those of you who don't know, I love the Vikings and hate everyone else to a degree. Cowboys are #4 in my top 10 hated teams. Packers, Steelers, Bears are ahead of them. So I'm not any kind of supporter of the Cowboys.

But, if they win the Super Bowl, Jerry Jones can't possibly fire Wade Phillips... unless he really is that crazy.

If Wade Phillips is the head coach next season, Jason Garrett will end up somewhere else, last off-season he refused offers from the Ravens and Falcons... however I think we have the team and owner to draw him to Minnesota.

CCthebest
10-26-2008, 12:35 AM
Dickless is trying to suck the passion out of the fans, just like he did to his players. Once we get a real HC, (hopefully before the end of this season) that passion will return.

vikingivan
10-26-2008, 01:17 AM
"2beersTommy" wrote:


Ive lost the passion..thats why I'm going to cheer for the REAL team from Minnesota..THE GOPHERS!!


Go Gophers!! 7-1.
It sucks thinking that the Vikings will lose every game they play now.
Thank you Brad Childress.

Vikes
10-26-2008, 01:36 AM
"StillPurple" wrote:


I have to admit this. I used to be a total nut Vikings fan. I would literally live and die with the team.

Recently, and I would say that this began when Brad came in and Culpepper and Moss left, and Childress came in and brought Bevell, and the stacked box, and lack of offense, etc. etc. ...

... it hit me today: I have just lost the Passion !! God, this sucks too. I actually said to my dad today: When I watch a Vikings game now, I kind of expect them to probably lose, and it doesn't rattle me that much when they do.

Wow. I got that out. Does anyone feel this way on here ?


These are times when those that are band wagoners jump off. I say don't let the door hit ya on the backside.

"MEN WE STAY THE COURSE" mark this as the I told you so post. The Vikings will have a HUGE second half of the season.

Now stop your crying and get back to drinking purple passion Kool-aid.

aceclown
10-26-2008, 01:57 AM
"Vikes" wrote:


"StillPurple" wrote:


I have to admit this. I used to be a total nut Vikings fan. I would literally live and die with the team.

Recently, and I would say that this began when Brad came in and Culpepper and Moss left, and Childress came in and brought Bevell, and the stacked box, and lack of offense, etc. etc. ...

... it hit me today: I have just lost the Passion !! God, this sucks too. I actually said to my dad today: When I watch a Vikings game now, I kind of expect them to probably lose, and it doesn't rattle me that much when they do.

Wow. I got that out. Does anyone feel this way on here ?


These are times when those that are band wagoners jump off. I say don't let the door hit ya on the backside.

"MEN WE STAY THE COURSE" mark this as the I told you so post. The Vikings will have a HUGE second half of the season.

Now stop your crying and get back to drinking purple passion Kool-aid.


I don't think he's saying his affiliation with the team is in question.
It's more of an honest admittance of his expectations of the current situation.
We have become conditioned to expect failure.
I doubt he does not feel hurt after a loss, just that given the current state of affairs and resultant expectations of failure as such, he is not as crushed as was once the case under the hopeful circumstances of past.

Vikes
10-26-2008, 02:51 AM
"aceclown" wrote:


"Vikes" wrote:


"StillPurple" wrote:


I have to admit this. I used to be a total nut Vikings fan. I would literally live and die with the team.

Recently, and I would say that this began when Brad came in and Culpepper and Moss left, and Childress came in and brought Bevell, and the stacked box, and lack of offense, etc. etc. ...

... it hit me today: I have just lost the Passion !! God, this sucks too. I actually said to my dad today: When I watch a Vikings game now, I kind of expect them to probably lose, and it doesn't rattle me that much when they do.

Wow. I got that out. Does anyone feel this way on here ?


These are times when those that are band wagoners jump off. I say don't let the door hit ya on the backside.

"MEN WE STAY THE COURSE" mark this as the I told you so post. The Vikings will have a HUGE second half of the season.

Now stop your crying and get back to drinking purple passion Kool-aid.


I don't think he's saying his affiliation with the team is in question.
It's more of an honest admittance of his expectations of the current situation.
We have become conditioned to expect failure.
I doubt he does not feel hurt after a loss, just that given the current state of affairs and resultant expectations of failure as such, he is not as crushed as was once the case under the hopeful circumstances of past.


I agree but to quote the Great Mike Tice.

But coaches also resort to cliches to explain away the inexplicable and the unforeseen. And it is in this respect that Vikings' head coach Mike Tice has so often trotted out the refrain that "it's not how you start, but how you finish that matters."

http://vikesgeek.blogspot.com/2004/12/its-not-how-you-start-but-how-you.html

aceclown
10-26-2008, 02:53 AM
"Vikes" wrote:


"aceclown" wrote:


"Vikes" wrote:


"StillPurple" wrote:


I have to admit this. I used to be a total nut Vikings fan. I would literally live and die with the team.

Recently, and I would say that this began when Brad came in and Culpepper and Moss left, and Childress came in and brought Bevell, and the stacked box, and lack of offense, etc. etc. ...

... it hit me today: I have just lost the Passion !! God, this sucks too. I actually said to my dad today: When I watch a Vikings game now, I kind of expect them to probably lose, and it doesn't rattle me that much when they do.

Wow. I got that out. Does anyone feel this way on here ?


These are times when those that are band wagoners jump off. I say don't let the door hit ya on the backside.

"MEN WE STAY THE COURSE" mark this as the I told you so post. The Vikings will have a HUGE second half of the season.

Now stop your crying and get back to drinking purple passion Kool-aid.


I don't think he's saying his affiliation with the team is in question.
It's more of an honest admittance of his expectations of the current situation.
We have become conditioned to expect failure.
I doubt he does not feel hurt after a loss, just that given the current state of affairs and resultant expectations of failure as such, he is not as crushed as was once the case under the hopeful circumstances of past.


I agree but to quote the Great Mike Tice.

But coaches also resort to cliches to explain away the inexplicable and the unforeseen. And it is in this respect that Vikings' head coach Mike Tice has so often trotted out the refrain that "it's not how you start, but how you finish that matters."

http://vikesgeek.blogspot.com/2004/12/its-not-how-you-start-but-how-you.html


Here's hoping the finish is better than the start.

Articnv
10-26-2008, 04:41 AM
i have no lost hope


i now the vikes offense play
not win but not to lose i got hope
that the game will be always a
close one cause we play for fgs and not TD.

I have hope brad will be fired regardless how he turns this team around.
its pretty sad when the vikes have the bye
week off so coaches can reevaulute them selves.
You should be doing that on a weekly baises

I have hope the vikes can score 40 + points and still find a waway to lose.

I have lost my faith in the coaches not in the time

I have hope the team dose as good
it dose dispite the coaching
schemes.

I have hope that a new HC can see that frazier si by product of tomlsin and
not defnse guru taht can onyl stop the run.

I have hope
new coach can
take sout of thsi medicoricy spin with the talent we have.

i ahve hope we can finish at 500
dispite or coachign cause
you cant sstop
AD
from not ever breakign
a run.

I have hope
bevel can relize 4 th and 1 run and on 3rd and 17 pass not thew other way around

When i lsoe hope si the day i pick the vieks to lsoe in my picksheets - still havnt done it

kevoncox
10-26-2008, 06:55 AM
http://gnb.scout.com/a.z?s=61&p=2&c=803279

:tear:

singersp
10-26-2008, 07:25 AM
"kevoncox" wrote:


http://gnb.scout.com/a.z?s=61&p=2&c=803279

:tear:


http://www.purplepride.org/forums/index.php?topic=48662.0

MetalMike-LoudVike
10-26-2008, 09:12 AM
Yeah the sky is falling no hope for the rest of the season.
We should write up a letter to the Commish and have the League stop play after 7 weeks and who ever has the best record could move on to the playoffs.

Oh a even crazier Idea let 17 weeks of play, and then see what happends.
I think it could work.

PurpleTide
10-26-2008, 09:57 AM
Negativety breeds negativety, and we are in the middle of a season. We don't need the waa bags, we need to buck up for the remainder of the season and believe we can turn this mediocrity into a playoff drive. I will never lose hope. It always hurts when we lose, and I have loved this team since the Joe Kapp days, so I've taken some lumps along with the glory, and we will achieve glory again. So Stay True to your team.

We all see we are close, a catch here, a fumble there, penalties and blah, blah. It is the nature of the game, and the ball will bounce our way down the stretch.


Viking Fan Forever.

Marrdro
10-26-2008, 12:44 PM
Quick question.........

Is this the first time you've "Lost the Passion" or were there other times my friends?

1961 I am sure that because it was our first year no one lost it after a 3-11 season.
1962 Might have tested your "Passion" a bit, however, I am sure we all took into account the fact that this team was still rebuilding. 2-11-1
63 - 5-8-1?
67 - 3-3-3?
72 - 7-7 Record.
How about that one.
Nice stretch leading up to it.
78 - 8-7-1.
That one probably tested ya then?
79 - How about back to back losing seasons.

81 - ?
83 - ?
84 - 3-13 for cripes sake.
Some of you had to have lost your passion there......
85 - Comeon now, if you made it through 84 I bet you lost it here.
Been almost 5 years of crap by then.


Comeon my friends.
Are you really trying to tell me that this stuff is causing you to lose your Passion for your team.
Gimme a break.

Learn your history and then come back to me about having a few hard years.
No wonder Vikings fans are often counted as the worst (or right there at the bottom) fans in the NFL.


http://www.sportsecyclopedia.com/nfl/minnesota/vikings.html

kevoncox
10-26-2008, 03:24 PM
"Marrdro" wrote:


Quick question.........

Is this the first time you've "Lost the Passion" or were there other times my friends?

1961 I am sure that because it was our first year no one lost it after a 3-11 season.
1962 Might have tested your "Passion" a bit, however, I am sure we all took into account the fact that this team was still rebuilding. 2-11-1
63 - 5-8-1?
67 - 3-3-3?
72 - 7-7 Record.
How about that one.
Nice stretch leading up to it.
78 - 8-7-1.
That one probably tested ya then?
79 - How about back to back losing seasons.

81 - ?
83 - ?
84 - 3-13 for cripes sake.
Some of you had to have lost your passion there......
85 - Comeon now, if you made it through 84 I bet you lost it here.
Been almost 5 years of crap by then.


Comeon my friends.
Are you really trying to tell me that this stuff is causing you to lose your Passion for your team.
Gimme a break.

Learn your history and then come back to me about having a few hard years.
No wonder Vikings fans are often counted as the worst (or right there at the bottom) fans in the NFL.


http://www.sportsecyclopedia.com/nfl/minnesota/vikings.html


As is the Franchise Marr, As is the franchise.
You can't just look at records and and say he should have felt the same as he does now. He maybe in a different place in life. The way we lost in 85 maybe different then the completely High School way of loosing game we invent on a weekly fashion.

I rather loose big then have a coach roll over and punt the ball with less than 2:00 remaining with no timeouts thinking that we could get the ball back. That kind of loss can suck the passion out of a team because of the guys fired this year, non of them have done some of the f*ck brain dead moves Chilly has.
I haven't lost the passion but I am drained from dealing with this team and listening to some of the lemmings on here rant about being 1 game out of tied for the lead in the division.

I hear people talk about the "Viking style" of football. Which is where we keep the game close and try to win it ( or not lose it) in the end. WTF kind of thinking is that? No one plays football in hopes of keeping the game close. Hell if you want to do that, you should kneel everytime you take a run past 10 yards. The goal on every play is to score a TD.

So it's attitudes like this that has caused me to question coming to this site and contining to wake up @ 7am every sunday to get ready for game day. Yes we have had some bad years and every team goes thru it. However, we are playing bad football. I gave Childress credit for improvements I saw last week but it just like Jackson's progress, it's not enough. Your coach shouldn't cost the team games. The QB shouldn't "manage" a game. When you don't go out and try to field the best team each year because having someone average at the position is good enough, you piss off fans and split your fanbase.

Marrdro
10-26-2008, 03:31 PM
"kevoncox" wrote:


"Marrdro" wrote:


Quick question.........

Is this the first time you've "Lost the Passion" or were there other times my friends?

1961 I am sure that because it was our first year no one lost it after a 3-11 season.
1962 Might have tested your "Passion" a bit, however, I am sure we all took into account the fact that this team was still rebuilding. 2-11-1
63 - 5-8-1?
67 - 3-3-3?
72 - 7-7 Record.
How about that one.
Nice stretch leading up to it.
78 - 8-7-1.
That one probably tested ya then?
79 - How about back to back losing seasons.

81 - ?
83 - ?
84 - 3-13 for cripes sake.
Some of you had to have lost your passion there......
85 - Comeon now, if you made it through 84 I bet you lost it here.
Been almost 5 years of crap by then.


Comeon my friends.
Are you really trying to tell me that this stuff is causing you to lose your Passion for your team.
Gimme a break.

Learn your history and then come back to me about having a few hard years.
No wonder Vikings fans are often counted as the worst (or right there at the bottom) fans in the NFL.


http://www.sportsecyclopedia.com/nfl/minnesota/vikings.html


As is the Franchise Marr, As is the franchise.
You can't just look at records and and say he should have felt the same as he does now. He maybe in a different place in life. The way we lost in 85 maybe different then the completely High School way of loosing game we invent on a weekly fashion.

I rather loose big then have a coach roll over and punt the ball with less than 2:00 remaining with no timeouts thinking that we could get the ball back. That kind of loss can suck the passion out of a team because of the guys fired this year, non of them have done some of the f*ck brain dead moves Chilly has.
I haven't lost the passion but I am drained from dealing with this team and listening to some of the lemmings on here rant about being 1 game out of tied for the lead in the division.

I hear people talk about the "Viking style" of football. Which is where we keep the game close and try to win it ( or not lose it) in the end. WTF kind of thinking is that? No one plays football in hopes of keeping the game close. Hell if you want to do that, you should kneel everytime you take a run past 10 yards. The goal on every play is to score a TD.

So it's attitudes like this that has caused me to question coming to this site and contining to wake up @ 7am every sunday to get ready for game day. Yes we have had some bad years and every team goes thru it. However, we are playing bad football. I gave Childress credit for improvements I saw last week but it just like Jackson's progress, it's not enough. Your coach shouldn't cost the team games. The QB shouldn't "manage" a game. When you don't go out and try to field the best team each year because having someone average at the position is good enough, you piss off fans and split your fanbase.

All good points my friend, but I bet there are cats out there that lived through the seasons I just mentioned who can say the same kindof things.

Did ole Less really win us any games or did he cost us some?
Did ole Tice keep our heads high when we couldn't win on the road?
Don't get me started on some of the stellar QB's we had start over the years.
There are several who were a heck of alot worse than TJ.

Long story short, things are looking tough, however, short of ole Lord Dickhead donning my beloved purple and gold, I don't think I will ever lose the passion over a few bumps in the road.

Purple Floyd
10-26-2008, 03:41 PM
"Marrdro" wrote:


"kevoncox" wrote:


"Marrdro" wrote:


Quick question.........

Is this the first time you've "Lost the Passion" or were there other times my friends?

1961 I am sure that because it was our first year no one lost it after a 3-11 season.
1962 Might have tested your "Passion" a bit, however, I am sure we all took into account the fact that this team was still rebuilding. 2-11-1
63 - 5-8-1?
67 - 3-3-3?
72 - 7-7 Record.
How about that one.
Nice stretch leading up to it.
78 - 8-7-1.
That one probably tested ya then?
79 - How about back to back losing seasons.

81 - ?
83 - ?
84 - 3-13 for cripes sake.
Some of you had to have lost your passion there......
85 - Comeon now, if you made it through 84 I bet you lost it here.
Been almost 5 years of crap by then.


Comeon my friends.
Are you really trying to tell me that this stuff is causing you to lose your Passion for your team.
Gimme a break.

Learn your history and then come back to me about having a few hard years.
No wonder Vikings fans are often counted as the worst (or right there at the bottom) fans in the NFL.


http://www.sportsecyclopedia.com/nfl/minnesota/vikings.html


As is the Franchise Marr, As is the franchise.
You can't just look at records and and say he should have felt the same as he does now. He maybe in a different place in life. The way we lost in 85 maybe different then the completely High School way of loosing game we invent on a weekly fashion.

I rather loose big then have a coach roll over and punt the ball with less than 2:00 remaining with no timeouts thinking that we could get the ball back. That kind of loss can suck the passion out of a team because of the guys fired this year, non of them have done some of the f*ck brain dead moves Chilly has.
I haven't lost the passion but I am drained from dealing with this team and listening to some of the lemmings on here rant about being 1 game out of tied for the lead in the division.

I hear people talk about the "Viking style" of football. Which is where we keep the game close and try to win it ( or not lose it) in the end. WTF kind of thinking is that? No one plays football in hopes of keeping the game close. Hell if you want to do that, you should kneel everytime you take a run past 10 yards. The goal on every play is to score a TD.

So it's attitudes like this that has caused me to question coming to this site and contining to wake up @ 7am every sunday to get ready for game day. Yes we have had some bad years and every team goes thru it. However, we are playing bad football. I gave Childress credit for improvements I saw last week but it just like Jackson's progress, it's not enough. Your coach shouldn't cost the team games. The QB shouldn't "manage" a game. When you don't go out and try to field the best team each year because having someone average at the position is good enough, you piss off fans and split your fanbase.

All good points my friend, but I bet there are cats out there that lived through the seasons I just mentioned who can say the same kindof things.

Did ole Less really win us any games or did he cost us some?
Did ole Tice keep our heads high when we couldn't win on the road?
Don't get me started on some of the stellar QB's we had start over the years.
There are several who were a heck of alot worse than TJ.

Long story short, things are looking tough, however, short of ole Lord Dickhead donning my beloved purple and gold, I don't think I will ever lose the passion over a few bumps in the road.


For the sake of argument, which QB's that were starters and were not filling in due to injury were worse? I think that one should have it's own thread ;)
Off the top of my head I am having trouble coming up with much of a list.
We have had some crappy ones who came in due to injury but I cannot remember a starter being worse.

kevoncox
10-26-2008, 03:45 PM
"Marrdro" wrote:


"kevoncox" wrote:


"Marrdro" wrote:


Quick question.........

Is this the first time you've "Lost the Passion" or were there other times my friends?

1961 I am sure that because it was our first year no one lost it after a 3-11 season.
1962 Might have tested your "Passion" a bit, however, I am sure we all took into account the fact that this team was still rebuilding. 2-11-1
63 - 5-8-1?
67 - 3-3-3?
72 - 7-7 Record.
How about that one.
Nice stretch leading up to it.
78 - 8-7-1.
That one probably tested ya then?
79 - How about back to back losing seasons.

81 - ?
83 - ?
84 - 3-13 for cripes sake.
Some of you had to have lost your passion there......
85 - Comeon now, if you made it through 84 I bet you lost it here.
Been almost 5 years of crap by then.


Comeon my friends.
Are you really trying to tell me that this stuff is causing you to lose your Passion for your team.
Gimme a break.

Learn your history and then come back to me about having a few hard years.
No wonder Vikings fans are often counted as the worst (or right there at the bottom) fans in the NFL.


http://www.sportsecyclopedia.com/nfl/minnesota/vikings.html


As is the Franchise Marr, As is the franchise.
You can't just look at records and and say he should have felt the same as he does now. He maybe in a different place in life. The way we lost in 85 maybe different then the completely High School way of loosing game we invent on a weekly fashion.

I rather loose big then have a coach roll over and punt the ball with less than 2:00 remaining with no timeouts thinking that we could get the ball back. That kind of loss can suck the passion out of a team because of the guys fired this year, non of them have done some of the f*ck brain dead moves Chilly has.
I haven't lost the passion but I am drained from dealing with this team and listening to some of the lemmings on here rant about being 1 game out of tied for the lead in the division.

I hear people talk about the "Viking style" of football. Which is where we keep the game close and try to win it ( or not lose it) in the end. WTF kind of thinking is that? No one plays football in hopes of keeping the game close. Hell if you want to do that, you should kneel everytime you take a run past 10 yards. The goal on every play is to score a TD.

So it's attitudes like this that has caused me to question coming to this site and contining to wake up @ 7am every sunday to get ready for game day. Yes we have had some bad years and every team goes thru it. However, we are playing bad football. I gave Childress credit for improvements I saw last week but it just like Jackson's progress, it's not enough. Your coach shouldn't cost the team games. The QB shouldn't "manage" a game. When you don't go out and try to field the best team each year because having someone average at the position is good enough, you piss off fans and split your fanbase.

All good points my friend, but I bet there are cats out there that lived through the seasons I just mentioned who can say the same kindof things.

Did ole Less really win us any games or did he cost us some?
Did ole Tice keep our heads high when we couldn't win on the road?
Don't get me started on some of the stellar QB's we had start over the years.
There are several who were a heck of alot worse than TJ.

Long story short, things are looking tough, however, short of ole Lord Dickhead donning my beloved purple and gold, I don't think I will ever lose the passion over a few bumps in the road.


We still don't/ can't win on the road with any regularity. Heck we still have a streak of 39 losses when behind at the start of the 4th. Tice didn't start that trend nor is it Chilly's fault.

As for the Qb's we had that were poor, remember may with all the tech available now, there is little excuse for draft a QB like TJ. He was too raw to be considered a prospect. Especially with the Head coach laughing at Jeff George for inquiring about playing for us.

I'm not saying we haven't been bad before and worst. However, our head coaches arragance and attitude makes me boil.

singersp
10-26-2008, 03:50 PM
"Marrdro" wrote:


Long story short, things are looking tough, however, short of ole Lord Dickhead donning my beloved purple and gold, I don't think I will ever lose the passion over a few bumps in the road.


I hear they are looking at Dan Devine or Forrest Greg as our next head coach.

What say you now Marr?

Marrdro
10-26-2008, 03:53 PM
"UffDaVikes" wrote:


"Marrdro" wrote:


"kevoncox" wrote:


"Marrdro" wrote:


Quick question.........

Is this the first time you've "Lost the Passion" or were there other times my friends?

1961 I am sure that because it was our first year no one lost it after a 3-11 season.
1962 Might have tested your "Passion" a bit, however, I am sure we all took into account the fact that this team was still rebuilding. 2-11-1
63 - 5-8-1?
67 - 3-3-3?
72 - 7-7 Record.
How about that one.
Nice stretch leading up to it.
78 - 8-7-1.
That one probably tested ya then?
79 - How about back to back losing seasons.

81 - ?
83 - ?
84 - 3-13 for cripes sake.
Some of you had to have lost your passion there......
85 - Comeon now, if you made it through 84 I bet you lost it here.
Been almost 5 years of crap by then.


Comeon my friends.
Are you really trying to tell me that this stuff is causing you to lose your Passion for your team.
Gimme a break.

Learn your history and then come back to me about having a few hard years.
No wonder Vikings fans are often counted as the worst (or right there at the bottom) fans in the NFL.


http://www.sportsecyclopedia.com/nfl/minnesota/vikings.html


As is the Franchise Marr, As is the franchise.
You can't just look at records and and say he should have felt the same as he does now. He maybe in a different place in life. The way we lost in 85 maybe different then the completely High School way of loosing game we invent on a weekly fashion.

I rather loose big then have a coach roll over and punt the ball with less than 2:00 remaining with no timeouts thinking that we could get the ball back. That kind of loss can suck the passion out of a team because of the guys fired this year, non of them have done some of the f*ck brain dead moves Chilly has.
I haven't lost the passion but I am drained from dealing with this team and listening to some of the lemmings on here rant about being 1 game out of tied for the lead in the division.

I hear people talk about the "Viking style" of football. Which is where we keep the game close and try to win it ( or not lose it) in the end. WTF kind of thinking is that? No one plays football in hopes of keeping the game close. Hell if you want to do that, you should kneel everytime you take a run past 10 yards. The goal on every play is to score a TD.

So it's attitudes like this that has caused me to question coming to this site and contining to wake up @ 7am every sunday to get ready for game day. Yes we have had some bad years and every team goes thru it. However, we are playing bad football. I gave Childress credit for improvements I saw last week but it just like Jackson's progress, it's not enough. Your coach shouldn't cost the team games. The QB shouldn't "manage" a game. When you don't go out and try to field the best team each year because having someone average at the position is good enough, you piss off fans and split your fanbase.

All good points my friend, but I bet there are cats out there that lived through the seasons I just mentioned who can say the same kindof things.

Did ole Less really win us any games or did he cost us some?
Did ole Tice keep our heads high when we couldn't win on the road?
Don't get me started on some of the stellar QB's we had start over the years.
There are several who were a heck of alot worse than TJ.

Long story short, things are looking tough, however, short of ole Lord Dickhead donning my beloved purple and gold, I don't think I will ever lose the passion over a few bumps in the road.


For the sake of argument, which QB's that were starters and were not filling in due to injury were worse? I think that one should have it's own thread ;)
Off the top of my head I am having trouble coming up with much of a list.
We have had some crappy ones who came in due to injury but I cannot remember a starter being worse.

Wade Wilson had some stellar years with several years were you would wish his INT's/TD's columns were switched.
http://www.jt-sw.com/football/pro/players.nsf/ID/06210028

Mix him and Rich Gannon together and you had quite a duo.
http://www.jt-sw.com/football/pro/players.nsf/ID/06810047

Then you can add Pepp in there.
I don't care what some of the crotchsniffers think, that cat lost us games.
http://www.jt-sw.com/football/pro/players.nsf/ID/08010157

Mix in his stellar backups, Spergyn, Bouman, etc....Bet D Coords stayed awake at nights hoping those cats didn't come in.

Mr Anderson
10-26-2008, 03:56 PM
"singersp" wrote:


"Marrdro" wrote:


Long story short, things are looking tough, however, short of ole Lord Dickhead donning my beloved purple and gold, I don't think I will ever lose the passion over a few bumps in the road.


I hear they are looking at Dan Devine or Forrest Greg as our next head coach.

What say you now Marr?

I'd rather have Loretta Devine
http://upload.moldova.org/movie/actors/l/loretta_devine/thumbnails/tn2_loretta_devine_2.jpg
or Forrest Gump
http://ldsrr91.files.wordpress.com/2008/06/forrest-gump-p11.jpg

Marrdro
10-26-2008, 03:58 PM
"singersp" wrote:


"Marrdro" wrote:


Long story short, things are looking tough, however, short of ole Lord Dickhead donning my beloved purple and gold, I don't think I will ever lose the passion over a few bumps in the road.


I hear they are looking at Dan Devine or Forrest Greg as our next head coach.

What say you now Marr?

LOL, I really have my sights set on Pete Carroll.
Just don't know how I am gonna get Zygi to change his mind after I told him not to fire the Chiller (at the Titans Tailgate).

singersp
10-26-2008, 04:03 PM
"Marrdro" wrote:


"singersp" wrote:


"Marrdro" wrote:


Long story short, things are looking tough, however, short of ole Lord Dickhead donning my beloved purple and gold, I don't think I will ever lose the passion over a few bumps in the road.


I hear they are looking at Dan Devine or Forrest Greg as our next head coach.

What say you now Marr?

LOL, I really have my sights set on Pete Carroll.
Just don't know how I am gonna get Zygi to change his mind after I told him not to fire the Chiller (at the Titans Tailgate).


He saw you drinking "The Beast". I'm sure he understood where your thoughts were coming from.

Marrdro
10-26-2008, 04:04 PM
"singersp" wrote:


"Marrdro" wrote:


"singersp" wrote:


"Marrdro" wrote:


Long story short, things are looking tough, however, short of ole Lord Dickhead donning my beloved purple and gold, I don't think I will ever lose the passion over a few bumps in the road.


I hear they are looking at Dan Devine or Forrest Greg as our next head coach.

What say you now Marr?

LOL, I really have my sights set on Pete Carroll.
Just don't know how I am gonna get Zygi to change his mind after I told him not to fire the Chiller (at the Titans Tailgate).


He saw you drinking "The Beast". I'm sure he understood where your thoughts were coming from.



Good, I'm off the hook.
I sure the hell don't want to be blamed for his presence next year.

V4L
10-26-2008, 05:27 PM
"Marrdro" wrote:


"singersp" wrote:


"Marrdro" wrote:


Long story short, things are looking tough, however, short of ole Lord Dickhead donning my beloved purple and gold, I don't think I will ever lose the passion over a few bumps in the road.


I hear they are looking at Dan Devine or Forrest Greg as our next head coach.

What say you now Marr?

LOL, I really have my sights set on Pete Carroll.
Just don't know how I am gonna get Zygi to change his mind after I told him not to fire the Chiller (at the Titans Tailgate).



Carroll is too afraid to come back to NFL

BREWSTER BABY!!

Mr Anderson
10-26-2008, 05:36 PM
"Marrdro" wrote:


"singersp" wrote:


"Marrdro" wrote:


"singersp" wrote:


"Marrdro" wrote:


Long story short, things are looking tough, however, short of ole Lord Dickhead donning my beloved purple and gold, I don't think I will ever lose the passion over a few bumps in the road.


I hear they are looking at Dan Devine or Forrest Greg as our next head coach.

What say you now Marr?

LOL, I really have my sights set on Pete Carroll.
Just don't know how I am gonna get Zygi to change his mind after I told him not to fire the Chiller (at the Titans Tailgate).


He saw you drinking "The Beast". I'm sure he understood where your thoughts were coming from.



Good, I'm off the hook.
I sure the hell don't want to be blamed for his presence next year.

You're definitely still on the hook for that one.

I can't believe you'd say such a thing to such a respectable man
;D

SamOchoCinco
10-26-2008, 08:38 PM
its good to have some losses.

it shows where you could make some improvements and if you always won. then it would get dull.

BBQ Platypus
10-26-2008, 08:54 PM
"SamOchoCinco" wrote:


its good to have some losses.

it shows where you could make some improvements and if you always won. then it would get dull.


It wouldn't hurt for us to win the big one every once in a while, though.
That would be nice.

Being a Vikings fan is pretty much pain epitomized.
It's like being kicked in the groin repeatedly by an attractive woman in high heels.
It's CLOSE to being something good, but in the end hurts more than most any other experience out there.

BadlandsVikings
10-26-2008, 10:14 PM
Let the team move

COJOMAY
10-26-2008, 10:33 PM
Most of you know my history...
I've been following this team since their first game in 1961. Worked for them for a few years. I've never lost my passion for the Vikings. But this year is different. I love Zygi as an owner. He has spent more money than any other owner would have, bringing in the best talent he can. And then it gets wasted on a coach who I had high hopes for and it's back to the same old grumping and griping and losing. After 47 years of this I just don't know how much more I can take.
I'm a grumpy old man who hasn't got a lot left in me and now to start over again is just too hard on me.

BadlandsVikings
10-26-2008, 10:55 PM
http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h63/westvirginiavikings/f8cb34dc-d966-40d1-9021-6413652a-1.jpg

baumy300
10-26-2008, 11:01 PM
I realized today how much I love this team. It's that whole "don't take anything for granted" garbage. I just missed having them play on a Sunday.

However, yes I will admit - I am finding them less and less enjoyable. God knows people still think I'm the fucking Devil for hoping a loss to the Saint's would cure us of Brad Childress disease, even though thinking back it wasn't the most rational thing to hope for at the time.

Either way, this team will never be anything but a heart breaker with Childress around. I've supported him long enough and made plenty of threads trying to back up his shitty coaching. I'm tired of making excuses for him.

Love the Vikings, hate the coach.

Yfz01
10-26-2008, 11:41 PM
Unless the team moves I won't be losing my passion for them.

Even then I might hold some allegiance to the team.
I still check the stats and try to watch games with former players...

Purple Floyd
10-27-2008, 10:54 AM
"Marrdro" wrote:


"UffDaVikes" wrote:


"Marrdro" wrote:


"kevoncox" wrote:


"Marrdro" wrote:


Quick question.........

Is this the first time you've "Lost the Passion" or were there other times my friends?

1961 I am sure that because it was our first year no one lost it after a 3-11 season.
1962 Might have tested your "Passion" a bit, however, I am sure we all took into account the fact that this team was still rebuilding. 2-11-1
63 - 5-8-1?
67 - 3-3-3?
72 - 7-7 Record.
How about that one.
Nice stretch leading up to it.
78 - 8-7-1.
That one probably tested ya then?
79 - How about back to back losing seasons.

81 - ?
83 - ?
84 - 3-13 for cripes sake.
Some of you had to have lost your passion there......
85 - Comeon now, if you made it through 84 I bet you lost it here.
Been almost 5 years of crap by then.


Comeon my friends.
Are you really trying to tell me that this stuff is causing you to lose your Passion for your team.
Gimme a break.

Learn your history and then come back to me about having a few hard years.
No wonder Vikings fans are often counted as the worst (or right there at the bottom) fans in the NFL.


http://www.sportsecyclopedia.com/nfl/minnesota/vikings.html


As is the Franchise Marr, As is the franchise.
You can't just look at records and and say he should have felt the same as he does now. He maybe in a different place in life. The way we lost in 85 maybe different then the completely High School way of loosing game we invent on a weekly fashion.

I rather loose big then have a coach roll over and punt the ball with less than 2:00 remaining with no timeouts thinking that we could get the ball back. That kind of loss can suck the passion out of a team because of the guys fired this year, non of them have done some of the f*ck brain dead moves Chilly has.
I haven't lost the passion but I am drained from dealing with this team and listening to some of the lemmings on here rant about being 1 game out of tied for the lead in the division.

I hear people talk about the "Viking style" of football. Which is where we keep the game close and try to win it ( or not lose it) in the end. WTF kind of thinking is that? No one plays football in hopes of keeping the game close. Hell if you want to do that, you should kneel everytime you take a run past 10 yards. The goal on every play is to score a TD.

So it's attitudes like this that has caused me to question coming to this site and contining to wake up @ 7am every sunday to get ready for game day. Yes we have had some bad years and every team goes thru it. However, we are playing bad football. I gave Childress credit for improvements I saw last week but it just like Jackson's progress, it's not enough. Your coach shouldn't cost the team games. The QB shouldn't "manage" a game. When you don't go out and try to field the best team each year because having someone average at the position is good enough, you piss off fans and split your fanbase.

All good points my friend, but I bet there are cats out there that lived through the seasons I just mentioned who can say the same kindof things.

Did ole Less really win us any games or did he cost us some?
Did ole Tice keep our heads high when we couldn't win on the road?
Don't get me started on some of the stellar QB's we had start over the years.
There are several who were a heck of alot worse than TJ.

Long story short, things are looking tough, however, short of ole Lord Dickhead donning my beloved purple and gold, I don't think I will ever lose the passion over a few bumps in the road.


For the sake of argument, which QB's that were starters and were not filling in due to injury were worse? I think that one should have it's own thread ;)
Off the top of my head I am having trouble coming up with much of a list.
We have had some crappy ones who came in due to injury but I cannot remember a starter being worse.

Wade Wilson had some stellar years with several years were you would wish his INT's/TD's columns were switched.
http://www.jt-sw.com/football/pro/players.nsf/ID/06210028

Mix him and Rich Gannon together and you had quite a duo.
http://www.jt-sw.com/football/pro/players.nsf/ID/06810047

Then you can add Pepp in there.
I don't care what some of the crotchsniffers think, that cat lost us games.
http://www.jt-sw.com/football/pro/players.nsf/ID/08010157

Mix in his stellar backups, Spergyn, Bouman, etc....Bet D Coords stayed awake at nights hoping those cats didn't come in.


Every one of those QB's went to the Pro Bowl from what I remember with the exception of maybe Gannon, who went to the SB with the Raiders.

You are going to tell me with a straight face that TJ is better than they were?
You did say QB's who were a lot worse than TJ, correct?

There is now way in hell that TJ can even carry the Jock of any of those QB's at this point.

Anybody else?

Marrdro
10-27-2008, 11:07 AM
"UffDaVikes" wrote:


"Marrdro" wrote:


"UffDaVikes" wrote:


"Marrdro" wrote:


"kevoncox" wrote:




Quick question.........

Is this the first time you've "Lost the Passion" or were there other times my friends?

1961 I am sure that because it was our first year no one lost it after a 3-11 season.
1962 Might have tested your "Passion" a bit, however, I am sure we all took into account the fact that this team was still rebuilding. 2-11-1
63 - 5-8-1?
67 - 3-3-3?
72 - 7-7 Record.
How about that one.
Nice stretch leading up to it.
78 - 8-7-1.
That one probably tested ya then?
79 - How about back to back losing seasons.

81 - ?
83 - ?
84 - 3-13 for cripes sake.
Some of you had to have lost your passion there......
85 - Comeon now, if you made it through 84 I bet you lost it here.
Been almost 5 years of crap by then.


Comeon my friends.
Are you really trying to tell me that this stuff is causing you to lose your Passion for your team.
Gimme a break.

Learn your history and then come back to me about having a few hard years.
No wonder Vikings fans are often counted as the worst (or right there at the bottom) fans in the NFL.


http://www.sportsecyclopedia.com/nfl/minnesota/vikings.html


As is the Franchise Marr, As is the franchise.
You can't just look at records and and say he should have felt the same as he does now. He maybe in a different place in life. The way we lost in 85 maybe different then the completely High School way of loosing game we invent on a weekly fashion.

I rather loose big then have a coach roll over and punt the ball with less than 2:00 remaining with no timeouts thinking that we could get the ball back. That kind of loss can suck the passion out of a team because of the guys fired this year, non of them have done some of the f*ck brain dead moves Chilly has.
I haven't lost the passion but I am drained from dealing with this team and listening to some of the lemmings on here rant about being 1 game out of tied for the lead in the division.

I hear people talk about the "Viking style" of football. Which is where we keep the game close and try to win it ( or not lose it) in the end. WTF kind of thinking is that? No one plays football in hopes of keeping the game close. Hell if you want to do that, you should kneel everytime you take a run past 10 yards. The goal on every play is to score a TD.

So it's attitudes like this that has caused me to question coming to this site and contining to wake up @ 7am every sunday to get ready for game day. Yes we have had some bad years and every team goes thru it. However, we are playing bad football. I gave Childress credit for improvements I saw last week but it just like Jackson's progress, it's not enough. Your coach shouldn't cost the team games. The QB shouldn't "manage" a game. When you don't go out and try to field the best team each year because having someone average at the position is good enough, you piss off fans and split your fanbase.

All good points my friend, but I bet there are cats out there that lived through the seasons I just mentioned who can say the same kindof things.

Did ole Less really win us any games or did he cost us some?
Did ole Tice keep our heads high when we couldn't win on the road?
Don't get me started on some of the stellar QB's we had start over the years.
There are several who were a heck of alot worse than TJ.

Long story short, things are looking tough, however, short of ole Lord Dickhead donning my beloved purple and gold, I don't think I will ever lose the passion over a few bumps in the road.


For the sake of argument, which QB's that were starters and were not filling in due to injury were worse? I think that one should have it's own thread ;)
Off the top of my head I am having trouble coming up with much of a list.
We have had some crappy ones who came in due to injury but I cannot remember a starter being worse.

Wade Wilson had some stellar years with several years were you would wish his INT's/TD's columns were switched.
http://www.jt-sw.com/football/pro/players.nsf/ID/06210028

Mix him and Rich Gannon together and you had quite a duo.
http://www.jt-sw.com/football/pro/players.nsf/ID/06810047

Then you can add Pepp in there.
I don't care what some of the crotchsniffers think, that cat lost us games.
http://www.jt-sw.com/football/pro/players.nsf/ID/08010157

Mix in his stellar backups, Spergyn, Bouman, etc....Bet D Coords stayed awake at nights hoping those cats didn't come in.


Every one of those QB's went to the Pro Bowl from what I remember with the exception of maybe Gannon, who went to the SB with the Raiders.

You are going to tell me with a straight face that TJ is better than they were?
You did say QB's who were a lot worse than TJ, correct?

There is now way in hell that TJ can even carry the Jock of any of those QB's at this point.

Anybody else?

I should have known better than to answer your question as it would get routed down the road of "Who is Better/Worse".

MY point is and has always been (in this thread) that if you have lost your passion for the Vikes over this team, you obviously haven't been around long or were a bit more long
suffering then than you are now.

Highs and lows my friend.
Highs and lows.
Unfortunately the lows are out numbering the highs of late.
If one were to look at our history though, its cyclic. It will come back around shortly. ;D

COJOMAY
10-27-2008, 11:11 AM
MY point is and has always been (in this thread) that if you have lost your passion for the Vikes over this team, you obviously haven't been around long or were a bit more long
suffering then than you are now.

Highs and lows my friend.
Highs and lows.
Unfortunately the lows are out numbering the highs of late.
If one were to look at our history though, its cyclic. It will come back around shortly. Grin

Tell me in your and my lifetime when we've seen a "high" Marr!
LOL

Bkfldviking
10-27-2008, 11:11 AM
During the Tommy Kramer era the pervailing joke was that the Vikings missed a game because someone painted a goal line at the entrance to the dome and the Vikings couldn't cross it.

Marrdro
10-27-2008, 11:14 AM
"COJOMAY" wrote:



MY point is and has always been (in this thread) that if you have lost your passion for the Vikes over this team, you obviously haven't been around long or were a bit more long
suffering then than you are now.

Highs and lows my friend.
Highs and lows.
Unfortunately the lows are out numbering the highs of late.
If one were to look at our history though, its cyclic. It will come back around shortly. Grin

Tell me in your and my lifetime when we've seen a "high" Marr!
LOL

I distinctly remember 3 seasons that lead to SB appearances.
Of course they ended poorly but they were fun rides.


The 98 season was a fun one as well until the end.

Not sure how you classify highs but there were alot just in those my friend.

COJOMAY
10-27-2008, 11:20 AM
"Marrdro" wrote:


"COJOMAY" wrote:



MY point is and has always been (in this thread) that if you have lost your passion for the Vikes over this team, you obviously haven't been around long or were a bit more long
suffering then than you are now.

Highs and lows my friend.
Highs and lows.
Unfortunately the lows are out numbering the highs of late.
If one were to look at our history though, its cyclic. It will come back around shortly. Grin

Tell me in your and my lifetime when we've seen a "high" Marr!

LOL

I distinctly remember 3 seasons that lead to SB appearances.
Of course they ended poorly but they were fun rides.


The 98 season was a fun one as well until the end.

Not sure how you classify highs but there were alot just in those my friend.


But the simple fact is, they all ended in "lows."

happy camper
10-27-2008, 11:28 AM
I'm not losing my passion for the Vikings.

I have lost faith in the current squad and have lost faith in the coaching staff.

I will still watch every game remaining this year but I am looking forward to the next game less than I usually am.

purplehelmut
10-27-2008, 11:44 AM
If I haven't lost it over the trials and tribulations of 28 years I guess I won't.
Unless the team moves- then I'd drop 'em like a hot tater.

Marrdro
10-27-2008, 11:44 AM
"COJOMAY" wrote:


"Marrdro" wrote:


"COJOMAY" wrote:



MY point is and has always been (in this thread) that if you have lost your passion for the Vikes over this team, you obviously haven't been around long or were a bit more long
suffering then than you are now.

Highs and lows my friend.
Highs and lows.
Unfortunately the lows are out numbering the highs of late.
If one were to look at our history though, its cyclic. It will come back around shortly. Grin

Tell me in your and my lifetime when we've seen a "high" Marr!
LOL

I distinctly remember 3 seasons that lead to SB appearances.
Of course they ended poorly but they were fun rides.


The 98 season was a fun one as well until the end.

Not sure how you classify highs but there were alot just in those my friend.


But the simple fact is, they all ended in "lows."

I agree but that wasn't your question.
You asked me to tell you in my lifetime when there have been highs my friend.
I did.


You didn't ask for the follow-on info.......;D

Marrdro
10-27-2008, 11:45 AM
"happy" wrote:


I'm not losing my passion for the Vikings.

I have lost faith in the current squad and have lost faith in the coaching staff.

I will still watch every game remaining this year but I am looking forward to the next game less than I usually am.

What he said........ ;D

El Vikingo
10-27-2008, 12:03 PM
To tell the truth I ve only watched every game since 2006 when the Chiller tenure started and it s been dissapointing all the way,but I won´t throw the towel at all ,keep cheering for the Vikes till my banana is totally rotten...

Another story it would be if they move the team ,I don´t know how I d react
but possibly don´t feel the same about the Vikes playing out of Minny ,knowing me I think I ll start feeling sympathy for another lousy team like the Browns or the Bills .But If the team stays I ll die as a Vikingo.


Anyone thinks this thread is a lil depressing?
::)

Zeus
10-27-2008, 12:53 PM
"Caine" wrote:


...and we have no hope anymore.
With Tice, we had hope.
We weren't there yet, but we were getting closer every year, and you could SEE the progress being made.
Then Chiller got here, and we went to crap INSTANTLY and stayed there.


Any "hope" that I had with Tice as QB was "hope" that the team would overcome that dipshit of a coach and succeed in spite of him.

=Z=

Mr Anderson
10-27-2008, 01:16 PM
"Zeus" wrote:


"Caine" wrote:


...and we have no hope anymore.
With Tice, we had hope.
We weren't there yet, but we were getting closer every year, and you could SEE the progress being made.
Then Chiller got here, and we went to crap INSTANTLY and stayed there.


Any "hope" that I had with Tice as QB was "hope" that the team would overcome that dipshit of a coach and succeed in spite of him.

=Z=


I wish Tice was our QB, then our offense would at least be laughably bad.

jargomcfargo
10-27-2008, 01:28 PM
Passion and hope give way to despair and disappointment at times, when cheering this team.

This year is particularily frustrating because we bought into the hype. I actually think the team believed the hype.

Still, as bad as this team has played at times, I find myself screaming with pleasure when AD breaks one, the D gets a pick or a sack, or when a touchdown is scored.

These minor victories are less than satisfying and too infrequent right now.
But they are a hint of what could be.

And 'what could be' has given me purple passion since day one.

And as I await the one super victory we all seek. I will enjoy my little victories along the way.

jmcdon00
10-27-2008, 02:39 PM
I still have my passion and my faith. This team was in a worse position last year and then they ripped off 5 straight wins, and I believe this team is better than last years so I still have a lot of hope. Until they lose 8 games I will predict that the vikings win more games than last year, and will win the division(in case you hadn't noticed we are only 1 game back and both the teams ahead of us still have to come to the dome this year.)
;)

Marrdro
10-27-2008, 03:09 PM
"jargomcfargo" wrote:


Passion and hope give way to despair and disappointment at times, when cheering this team.

This year is particularily frustrating because we bought into the hype. I actually think the team believed the hype.

Still, as bad as this team has played at times, I find myself screaming with pleasure when AD breaks one, the D gets a pick or a sack, or when a touchdown is scored.

These minor victories are less than satisfying and too infrequent right now.
But they are a hint of what could be.

And 'what could be' has given me purple passion since day one.

And as I await the one super victory we all seek. I will enjoy my little victories along the way.

Your pretty smart for a Doc aren't ya my friend.

Great post.
;D

pack93z
10-27-2008, 03:10 PM
Don't lose your passion yet.. there are many bright spots on your team to look upon.. just enjoy those.

I know it seems rough.. but Cheesehead's survived the 70's and 80's on a hell of a lot less.. take solace in that.

But as for the 08' version of the Vikings.. I think there is still a lot of story to be told.. if they can just find a little consistency week to week and maybe a couple of adjustments in the secondary, and I think this team has a short at making a late season run. Get into the playoffs and let the one two combo of Backs carry this team..

You have the talent..

Marrdro
10-27-2008, 03:12 PM
"pack93z" wrote:


Don't lose your passion yet.. there are many bright spots on your team to look upon.. just enjoy those.

I know it seems rough.. but Cheesehead's survived the 70's and 80's on a hell of a lot less.. take solace in that.

But as for the 08' version of the Vikings.. I think there is still a lot of story to be told.. if they can just find a little consistency week to week and maybe a couple of adjustments in the secondary, and I think this team has a short at making a late season run. Get into the playoffs and let the one two combo of Backs carry this team..

You have the talent..

Anyone besides me think that Pack's "Online Box" is a different shade of yellow?
;D

Just kidding my friend.
Excellent post.

C Mac D
10-27-2008, 03:13 PM
"pack93z" wrote:


You have the talent..


We lack the leadership.

pack93z
10-27-2008, 03:18 PM
"Marrdro" wrote:


Anyone besides me think that Pack's "Online Box" is a different shade of yellow?

;D


No damn brown nosing here.. but I wouldn't oppose it turning green.
;)

Suick
10-27-2008, 03:19 PM
The preseason hype with the FA's, etc really stirred me up this year, this is a huge let down. Read my sig, it says it all

pack93z
10-27-2008, 03:22 PM
"C" wrote:


"pack93z" wrote:


You have the talent..


We lack the leadership.


My friend, from a distance I would tend to agree.. however.. if you have a couple of strong leaders on this team, they can call a players only type meeting and take some of the mental errors and mistakes upon themselves..

Sure they can't change the play calling or some of the questionable late game decisions.. but they certainly can hold each other accountable for their play upon the field... make the "players only" meeting very public if need be.. that is if the locker room has turned on the Chiller.

Marrdro
10-27-2008, 03:27 PM
"pack93z" wrote:


"C" wrote:


"pack93z" wrote:


You have the talent..


We lack the leadership.


My friend, from a distance I would tend to agree.. however.. if you have a couple of strong leaders on this team, they can call a players only type meeting and take some of the mental errors and mistakes upon themselves..

Sure they can't change the play calling or some of the questionable late game decisions.. but they certainly can hold each other accountable for their play upon the field... make the "players only" meeting very public if need be.. that is if the locker room has turned on the Chiller.

Believe it or not, the players (and a few loyalists on here) seem to be the only ones who haven't turned on him.

bleedpurple
10-27-2008, 03:32 PM
I was holding out hope.. but now that the Williams wall is potentially gonna be suspended.. i'm kinda thinking that we're gonna be in trouble and that may hurt us in having a late run...

The thing i'm most upset about is the fact that we can't seem to build off of any momentum from year to year... over the last shoot.. since 98.. we haven't had a consistent year to year build of momentum to carry us into the next year... Tice get's off to hot starts 6-0 and we end up 8-8 and 9-7... Chilly starts off 2-4 3-5 or whatever and finish 8-8 or 6-10 the year before...

Can we get some type of carry over.. we cut down ALOT on penalties last year.. this year.. penalties everywhere.. not to mention the numerous turnovers....
the only consistent thing from year to year has been the defensive line.. and the secondary consistently bad on defense.. the running offense consistently decent and the pass offense consistently suspect.. and the entire coaching scheme/philosophy/playcalling consistently pathetic!!!!

keystonevike
10-27-2008, 03:36 PM
"V4L" wrote:


"grpape" wrote:


"V4L" wrote:


I can't blame you

Doesn't mean you aren't a fan or anything

But I am still as passionate about the Vikes as I was when I was 2

I just love arguing with Packer fans and the feeling of walking into the dome or waking up on Sundays ready to watch a game


Ahhh...... Wake and Bake Sundays!



Hahaha

I miss those from time to time my friend

I REALLY miss 'em.

keystonevike
10-27-2008, 03:57 PM
"kevoncox" wrote:


http://gnb.scout.com/a.z?s=61&p=2&c=803279

:tear:

The fan's "ticket privleges may be severly altered in the future" just 'cause he or she sold their ticket to someone else?? Patriots organization needs to learn to just deal with it, bunch of jack-offs.

jmcdon00
10-27-2008, 04:09 PM
"keystonevike" wrote:


"kevoncox" wrote:


http://gnb.scout.com/a.z?s=61&p=2&c=803279

:tear:

The fan's "ticket privleges may be severly altered in the future" just 'cause he or she sold their ticket to someone else?? Patriots organization needs to learn to just deal with it, bunch of jack-offs.

Sounds like BS to me. It wasn't like sid was doing anything wrong, just cheering for another team(actually he was cheering for moss who is a member of the home team). Although according to the handbook season tickets can be revoked if the person sitting in the seat violates the code of conduct, even if it isn't the actual season ticket holder. So if I have to work next sunday so I sell my tickets on Ebay and the buyer gets in trouble at the game I could lose my season tickets.

singersp
10-27-2008, 06:08 PM
"pack93z" wrote:



I know it seems rough.. but Cheesehead's survived the 70's and 80's on a hell of a lot less.. take solace in that.



Solace hell! I took great pleasure in their misery & relished those years.

Ah, the 30 year drought!

StillPurple
10-28-2008, 12:09 AM
No matter what I wrote earlier, I also still love waking up on a Sunday and putting on the purple to head out to my local sports bar.

El Vikingo
10-28-2008, 04:01 AM
"StillPurple" wrote:


No matter what I wrote earlier, I also still love waking up on a Sunday and putting on the purple to head out to my local sports bar.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bipolar_disorder

:P

Bleedin Purple
10-29-2008, 05:43 PM
"grpape" wrote:


"V4L" wrote:


I can't blame you

Doesn't mean you aren't a fan or anything

But I am still as passionate about the Vikes as I was when I was 2

I just love arguing with Packer fans and the feeling of walking into the dome or waking up on Sundays ready to watch a game


Ahhh...... Wake and Bake Sundays!


Yeaaa these guys know where its at!