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marstc09
09-02-2008, 10:45 AM
We’ve previously speculated that, in order to get quaterback Brett Favre on board with the trade that sent him from Green Bay to New York, the Jets told Favre, “Give it a year.
If you don’t like it, we’ll let you walk.
No strings attached.”

http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/08/22/favre-to-vikes-could-still-happen-next-year/

Prophet
09-02-2008, 10:48 AM
I hope so, just so I can see Marr bitch and moan while he's sporting a Favre jersey.

jessejames09
09-02-2008, 10:50 AM
Something about a 39 year old QB that I don't think Childress would go for.

C Mac D
09-02-2008, 10:50 AM
Another thread on Favre coming to the Vikes...

Marrdro
09-02-2008, 10:51 AM
I thought the stipulation was that they couldn't trade him to a NFC North team for 3 years.

::)

C Mac D
09-02-2008, 10:52 AM
"Marrdro" wrote:


I thought the stipulation was that they couldn't trade him to a NFC North team for 3 years.

::)


Doesn't say anything if the Jets simply cut him. Come on Marr... read the article.

EDIT: I'd put a smiley, but I don't do smilies.

marstc09
09-02-2008, 10:52 AM
"Marrdro" wrote:


I thought the stipulation was that they couldn't trade him to a NFC North team for 3 years.

::)


Yes of course. I don't think there is anything in there about letting him go.

marstc09
09-02-2008, 10:54 AM
"jessejames09" wrote:


Something about a 39 year old QB that I don't think Childress would go for.


What happens if TJ completely tanks this year? I don't think he will but it is possible. Or if he gets a career ended injury. We would not have many options.

Marrdro
09-02-2008, 11:01 AM
"C" wrote:


"Marrdro" wrote:


I thought the stipulation was that they couldn't trade him to a NFC North team for 3 years.

::)


Doesn't say anything if the Jets simply cut him. Come on Marr... read the article.

EDIT: I'd put a smiley, but I don't do smilies.

I did read the article and it only talked about modifying the contract money.
Nothing about the agreed upon stipulation that the Jets and PUKERS made when the trade happened.

Again, it seemed to me it was for 3 years.
Let me go dig around and see what I can find.

NodakPaul
09-02-2008, 11:01 AM
"marstc09" wrote:


"jessejames09" wrote:


Something about a 39 year old QB that I don't think Childress would go for.


What happens if TJ completely tanks this year? I don't think he will but it is possible. Or if he gets a career ended injury. We would not have many options.


If TJack completely tanks or has a career ending injury, I think we would turn toward the draft before taking Fav-re.

jessejames09
09-02-2008, 11:04 AM
"NodakPaul" wrote:


"marstc09" wrote:


"jessejames09" wrote:


Something about a 39 year old QB that I don't think Childress would go for.


What happens if TJ completely tanks this year? I don't think he will but it is possible. Or if he gets a career ended injury. We would not have many options.


If TJack completely tanks or has a career ending injury, I think we would turn toward the draft before taking Fav-re.


What he said.

marstc09
09-02-2008, 11:04 AM
"NodakPaul" wrote:


"marstc09" wrote:


"jessejames09" wrote:


Something about a 39 year old QB that I don't think Childress would go for.


What happens if TJ completely tanks this year? I don't think he will but it is possible. Or if he gets a career ended injury. We would not have many options.


If TJack completely tanks or has a career ending injury, I think we would turn toward the draft before taking Fav-re.


Of course we are going to turn to the draft.
:P Why stick that guy in right away? Give him a year under Favre. That seems smarter to me. Why would you want another TJ situation? Remember Chilly and company's original plan was to have Brad Johnson play while TJ learns. Why would you think they would want to do it any other way?

jessejames09
09-02-2008, 11:22 AM
"marstc09" wrote:


"NodakPaul" wrote:


"marstc09" wrote:


"jessejames09" wrote:


Something about a 39 year old QB that I don't think Childress would go for.


What happens if TJ completely tanks this year? I don't think he will but it is possible. Or if he gets a career ended injury. We would not have many options.


If TJack completely tanks or has a career ending injury, I think we would turn toward the draft before taking Fav-re.


Of course we are going to turn to the draft.
:P Why stick that guy in right away? Give him a year under Favre. That seems smarter to me. Why would you want another TJ situation? Remember Chilly and company's original plan was to have Brad Johnson play while TJ learns. Why would you think they would want to do it any other way?


A year under Favre... Yeah there is some real lessons to be learned there.

Favre: okay, against a cover 2, you want to look down the sideline then hang it up over the middle got that?

Rookie: *nods*

Favre: Now against a cover 3 I like to look for someone on a fly route, preferably hit him over the top.

Rooke: ??

Favre: Man to man? I love that stuff, do a little pump fake, BAM, 60 yard bomb.

Rookie: no checkdowns?

Favre: Go getcha' self some wranglers kid.

NodakPaul
09-02-2008, 11:43 AM
"jessejames09" wrote:


"marstc09" wrote:


"NodakPaul" wrote:


"marstc09" wrote:


"jessejames09" wrote:


Something about a 39 year old QB that I don't think Childress would go for.


What happens if TJ completely tanks this year? I don't think he will but it is possible. Or if he gets a career ended injury. We would not have many options.


If TJack completely tanks or has a career ending injury, I think we would turn toward the draft before taking Fav-re.


Of course we are going to turn to the draft.
:P Why stick that guy in right away? Give him a year under Favre. That seems smarter to me. Why would you want another TJ situation? Remember Chilly and company's original plan was to have Brad Johnson play while TJ learns. Why would you think they would want to do it any other way?


A year under Favre... Yeah there is some real lessons to be learned there.

Favre: okay, against a cover 2, you want to look down the sideline then hang it up over the middle got that?

Rookie: *nods*

Favre: Now against a cover 3 I like to look for someone on a fly route, preferably hit him over the top.

Rooke: ??

Favre: Man to man? I love that stuff, do a little pump fake, BAM, 60 yard bomb.

Rookie: no checkdowns?

Favre: Go getcha' self some wranglers kid.


That would be more than Fav-re every did for Rodgers.
Remember two years ago when Fav-re stated that mentoring rookie QB's "wasn't his job"?

In a scenario where we lose TJack for whatever reason I would rather get a rookie to sit under Frerottefor a year than Fav-re.

marstc09
09-02-2008, 12:19 PM
"NodakPaul" wrote:


"jessejames09" wrote:


"marstc09" wrote:


"NodakPaul" wrote:


"marstc09" wrote:




Something about a 39 year old QB that I don't think Childress would go for.


What happens if TJ completely tanks this year? I don't think he will but it is possible. Or if he gets a career ended injury. We would not have many options.


If TJack completely tanks or has a career ending injury, I think we would turn toward the draft before taking Fav-re.


Of course we are going to turn to the draft.
:P Why stick that guy in right away? Give him a year under Favre. That seems smarter to me. Why would you want another TJ situation? Remember Chilly and company's original plan was to have Brad Johnson play while TJ learns. Why would you think they would want to do it any other way?


A year under Favre... Yeah there is some real lessons to be learned there.

Favre: okay, against a cover 2, you want to look down the sideline then hang it up over the middle got that?

Rookie: *nods*

Favre: Now against a cover 3 I like to look for someone on a fly route, preferably hit him over the top.

Rooke: ??

Favre: Man to man? I love that stuff, do a little pump fake, BAM, 60 yard bomb.

Rookie: no checkdowns?

Favre: Go getcha' self some wranglers kid.


That would be more than Fav-re every did for Rodgers.
Remember two years ago when Fav-re stated that mentoring rookie QB's "wasn't his job"?

In a scenario where we lose TJack for whatever reason I would rather get a rookie to sit under Frerottefor a year than Fav-re.


I think Freotte is a good backup but in no way do I want to see him as a starter.

vikingivan
09-02-2008, 12:22 PM
"marstc09" wrote:


"NodakPaul" wrote:


"jessejames09" wrote:


"marstc09" wrote:


"NodakPaul" wrote:






Something about a 39 year old QB that I don't think Childress would go for.


What happens if TJ completely tanks this year? I don't think he will but it is possible. Or if he gets a career ended injury. We would not have many options.


If TJack completely tanks or has a career ending injury, I think we would turn toward the draft before taking Fav-re.


Of course we are going to turn to the draft.
:P Why stick that guy in right away? Give him a year under Favre. That seems smarter to me. Why would you want another TJ situation? Remember Chilly and company's original plan was to have Brad Johnson play while TJ learns. Why would you think they would want to do it any other way?


A year under Favre... Yeah there is some real lessons to be learned there.

Favre: okay, against a cover 2, you want to look down the sideline then hang it up over the middle got that?

Rookie: *nods*

Favre: Now against a cover 3 I like to look for someone on a fly route, preferably hit him over the top.

Rooke: ??

Favre: Man to man? I love that stuff, do a little pump fake, BAM, 60 yard bomb.

Rookie: no checkdowns?

Favre: Go getcha' self some wranglers kid.


That would be more than Fav-re every did for Rodgers.
Remember two years ago when Fav-re stated that mentoring rookie QB's "wasn't his job"?

In a scenario where we lose TJack for whatever reason I would rather get a rookie to sit under Frerottefor a year than Fav-re.


I think Freotte is a good backup but in no way do I want to see him as a starter.


Frerotte starting for the Vikings would mean that either TJack stunk or was injured again.
Two scenarios that I hope don't happen.

Purple Floyd
09-02-2008, 04:55 PM
I doubt he is going to want to come here and compete with McNabb for the starting job. We won't need both of them.

marstc09
10-16-2008, 12:58 PM
FAVRE WATCH 09 BEGINS

http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/10/16/favre-watch-09-begins/


We continue to believe that the Jets effort to persuade Favre to play for them (which entailed naming rights to unborn children and perhaps even some good, old-fashioned cuckolding) included a promise by the organization to grant Favre an unconditional release after 2008, if he wants it.

Our guess is that he still hopes to stick it to the Packers, and that he still secretly yearns to play for the Vikings.
With Tarvaris Jackson benched and Gus Frerotte named the starter for the rest of the season, the move still makes a lot of sense.

Caine
10-16-2008, 01:03 PM
"marstc09" wrote:


FAVRE WATCH ‘09 BEGINS

http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/10/16/favre-watch-09-begins/


We continue to believe that the Jets’ effort to persuade Favre to play for them (which entailed naming rights to unborn children and perhaps even some good, old-fashioned cuckolding) included a promise by the organization to grant Favre an unconditional release after 2008, if he wants it.

Our guess is that he still hopes to stick it to the Packers, and that he still secretly yearns to play for the Vikings.
With Tarvaris Jackson benched and Gus Frerotte named the starter for the rest of the season, the move still makes a lot of sense.


Won't happen, but funny to think about.

Caine

ejmat
10-16-2008, 01:34 PM
"jessejames09" wrote:


Something about a 39 year old QB that I don't think Childress would go for.


Frerrote is 37.
Not much of a difference in age.
However as a QB there's a big difference.
To me it would be perfect.
Give Favre two years or so whcih would give Booty some growing time.
It's definately an upgrade from what we have now as well as a good opportunity to give JDB some time.

i_bleed_purple
10-16-2008, 01:36 PM
"UffDaVikes" wrote:


I doubt he is going to want to come here and compete with McNabb for the starting job. We won't need both of them.


I'd say all McNabb rumors are pretty much squashed.
He's playing some pretty good ball in Philly, i give it a 0.000000001% chance he'll ever end up here. (untill he's 40, cut from the eagles, then Chilly (who for some reason is still around ) snags him up because he's the reason his KAO worked in philly, then he throws 26 picks that year)

Garland Greene
10-16-2008, 01:51 PM
"i_bleed_purple" wrote:


"UffDaVikes" wrote:


I doubt he is going to want to come here and compete with McNabb for the starting job. We won't need both of them.


I'd say all McNabb rumors are pretty much squashed.
He's playing some pretty good ball in Philly, i give it a 0.000000001% chance he'll ever end up here. (untill he's 40, cut from the eagles, then Chilly (who for some reason is still around ) snags him up because he's the reason his KAO worked in philly, then he throws 26 picks that year)


I would be somewhat surprised if hew wanted to come here next year especially if Chilly is gone. Since we definatly did not need Favre this year
::)

i_bleed_purple
10-16-2008, 01:52 PM
"Garland" wrote:


"i_bleed_purple" wrote:


"UffDaVikes" wrote:


I doubt he is going to want to come here and compete with McNabb for the starting job. We won't need both of them.


I'd say all McNabb rumors are pretty much squashed.
He's playing some pretty good ball in Philly, i give it a 0.000000001% chance he'll ever end up here. (untill he's 40, cut from the eagles, then Chilly (who for some reason is still around ) snags him up because he's the reason his KAO worked in philly, then he throws 26 picks that year)


I would be somewhat surprised if hew wanted to come here next year especially if Chilly is gone. Since we definatly did not need Favre this year
::)


why do you think he'd leave Philly anyway?
If he keeps playing well, i have a hard time thinking Reid will pull him and start Kolb.
I think McNabb will start next year unless he gets injured again.

marstc09
10-16-2008, 01:58 PM
Hey this thread is about Brett Favre, the God, not McNabb.
;D ;)

pattyosviKING
10-16-2008, 02:20 PM
"vikingivan" wrote:


"marstc09" wrote:


"NodakPaul" wrote:


"jessejames09" wrote:


"marstc09" wrote:








Something about a 39 year old QB that I don't think Childress would go for.


What happens if TJ completely tanks this year? I don't think he will but it is possible. Or if he gets a career ended injury. We would not have many options.


If TJack completely tanks or has a career ending injury, I think we would turn toward the draft before taking Fav-re.


Of course we are going to turn to the draft.
:P Why stick that guy in right away? Give him a year under Favre. That seems smarter to me. Why would you want another TJ situation? Remember Chilly and company's original plan was to have Brad Johnson play while TJ learns. Why would you think they would want to do it any other way?


A year under Favre... Yeah there is some real lessons to be learned there.

Favre: okay, against a cover 2, you want to look down the sideline then hang it up over the middle got that?

Rookie: *nods*

Favre: Now against a cover 3 I like to look for someone on a fly route, preferably hit him over the top.

Rooke: ??

Favre: Man to man? I love that stuff, do a little pump fake, BAM, 60 yard bomb.

Rookie: no checkdowns?

Favre: Go getcha' self some wranglers kid.


That would be more than Fav-re every did for Rodgers.
Remember two years ago when Fav-re stated that mentoring rookie QB's "wasn't his job"?

In a scenario where we lose TJack for whatever reason I would rather get a rookie to sit under Frerottefor a year than Fav-re.


I think Freotte is a good backup but in no way do I want to see him as a starter.


Frerotte starting for the Vikings would mean that either TJack stunk or was injured again.
Two scenarios that I hope don't happen.



OOPS

dfosterf
10-16-2008, 02:28 PM
"marstc09" wrote:


Hey this thread is about Brett Favre, the God, not McNabb.
;D ;)


Pot-stirrer slinking back to my own forum
;D

Marrdro
10-16-2008, 04:26 PM
Won't this nightmare ever end?

:o :o :o

i_bleed_purple
10-16-2008, 04:27 PM
"Marrdro" wrote:


Won't this nightmare ever end?

:o :o :o


never!!

singersp
10-16-2008, 07:35 PM
"Prophet" wrote:


I hope so, just so I can see Marr bitch and moan while he's sporting a Favre jersey.


http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b21/singersp82759/marrdrofavre.jpg

marstc09
01-08-2009, 10:43 PM
Favre to wait before deciding on '09

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3818870

BBQ Platypus
01-08-2009, 10:48 PM
Florio is the world's only living brain donor.



EDIT: Oh, wait.
That implies he had a brain to begin with.
Silly me.

ejmat
01-08-2009, 10:57 PM
"singersp" wrote:


"Prophet" wrote:


I hope so, just so I can see Marr bitch and moan while he's sporting a Favre jersey.


http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b21/singersp82759/marrdrofavre.jpg


That's Favredro.

ItalianStallion
01-08-2009, 11:02 PM
The last thing we need is a guy who'll lead the league in INTs.

CTVikingfan
01-08-2009, 11:32 PM
The Last thing we need is a head case that thinks the world revolves around him. We need a QB but I think that we need a Team player not a head case. BF was great but his time is done. Please just go put on the Wranglers and Play with the kids in the schoolyard. Better yet come to a coupl of full contact practices so JA can Rip his legs off and beat him with them and then go away. In a wheelchair you wont be able to play these games

singersp
01-09-2009, 07:52 AM
Favre will probably be throwing in the towel this off-season.

And of course, it will be intercepted.

Marrdro
01-09-2009, 07:56 AM
"Prophet" wrote:


I hope so, just so I can see Marr beeyatch and moan while he's sporting a Favre jersey.

I wouldn't beeyyyyacth and moan at all.
I would be strangley quiet except for a post late on Sun/early Mon were I did this ........

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

after the Vikes lose because Lord Dickhead threw a bunch more INT's causing a loss..

Marrdro
01-09-2009, 07:59 AM
"marstc09" wrote:


Favre to wait before deciding on '09

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3818870

I love all the "I can't believe the Jets Players Didn't Like Me" crap coming out of his mouth........To think, some teamates would actually speak ill about him.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

bleedpurple
01-09-2009, 10:07 AM
"Marrdro" wrote:


"marstc09" wrote:


Favre to wait before deciding on '09

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3818870

I love all the "I can't believe the Jets Players Didn't Like Me" crap coming out of his mouth........To think, some teamates would actually speak ill about him.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA


yeah, but if you really look at it.. he never really looked happy to be there.... I think he wants out.. and barring us getting a competent QB in the offseason, I think a washed up banged up Favre is a better stop gap than anyone currently on our roster...

He's one season removed from being 13-3 and an MVP candidate.. u can't discount that...

Look at what he did to the jets running game.. compared to what it was the year before.. TJ led the AFC in rushing..

so i wouldn't be esctatic about him being here, but it's better than having Frerotte starting or hoping TJ (while showing promise) gets his head out of his ass!...

marstc09
01-09-2009, 10:20 AM
"bleedpurple" wrote:


"Marrdro" wrote:


"marstc09" wrote:


Favre to wait before deciding on '09

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3818870

I love all the "I can't believe the Jets Players Didn't Like Me" crap coming out of his mouth........To think, some teamates would actually speak ill about him.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA


yeah, but if you really look at it.. he never really looked happy to be there.... I think he wants out.. and barring us getting a competent QB in the offseason, I think a washed up banged up Favre is a better stop gap than anyone currently on our roster...

He's one season removed from being 13-3 and an MVP candidate.. u can't discount that...

Look at what he did to the jets running game.. compared to what it was the year before.. TJ led the AFC in rushing..

so i wouldn't be esctatic about him being here, but it's better than having Frerotte starting or hoping TJ (while showing promise) gets his head out of his ass!...


Exactly. It's funny how some don't register in their brains. We might have no other option. Favre is a better than anything we had this year. He is not my first option but he is a very good option.

petrodemos
01-09-2009, 10:23 AM
i think favre wasnt happy in ny cause its almost as cold as it is in wisconsin in december. i remember his last game against the giants at lameblo field. he looked old slow and miserable. this year i didnt really watch the jets but i have a feeling the same happened with him the way his stats fell in the last weeks of the regular season.

i believe that if favre is offered a starting qb position for a team that plays in a dome or one that plays in florida he might consider coming back. i just want him retired now so we dont have to listen to all this man lovin during pre-game and half time shows.

Ltrey33
01-09-2009, 10:54 AM
"UffDaVikes" wrote:


I doubt he is going to want to come here and compete with McNabb for the starting job. We won't need both of them.


Ha! That's a wet dream.

If we can't get Cassel or one of the better guys in the draft, I would definitely like to see Favre as a Viking. There's no doubt he's better than and could take us further than either Gus or Tarvaris.

Purple Floyd
01-09-2009, 10:56 AM
"Ltrey" wrote:


"UffDaVikes" wrote:


I doubt he is going to want to come here and compete with McNabb for the starting job. We won't need both of them.


Ha! That's a wet dream.

If we can't get Cassel or one of the better guys in the draft, I would definitely like to see Favre as a Viking. There's no doubt he's better than and could take us further than either Gus or Tarvaris.


How does drawing a Social Security check effect the salary cap? Would we get a deduction?

BloodyHorns82
01-09-2009, 11:01 AM
"Ltrey" wrote:


"UffDaVikes" wrote:


I doubt he is going to want to come here and compete with McNabb for the starting job. We won't need both of them.


Ha! That's a wet dream.

If we can't get Cassel or one of the better guys in the draft, I would definitely like to see Favre as a Viking. There's no doubt he's better than and could take us further than either Gus or Tarvaris.


Our team is not setup to rebound well from turnovers.
We grind, grind, grind, chew clock, and grind some more.
I'm not excited about watching Favre lead the NFL in INTs wearing purple.
The guys is done.
He could barely even throw he ball towards the end of the season.
It was painfully obvious that he is getting too old to play at the NFL level.

VikingMike
01-09-2009, 11:07 AM
"BloodyHorns82" wrote:


"Ltrey" wrote:


"UffDaVikes" wrote:


I doubt he is going to want to come here and compete with McNabb for the starting job. We won't need both of them.


Ha! That's a wet dream.

If we can't get Cassel or one of the better guys in the draft, I would definitely like to see Favre as a Viking. There's no doubt he's better than and could take us further than either Gus or Tarvaris.


Our team is not setup to rebound well from turnovers.
We grind, grind, grind, chew clock, and grind some more.
I'm not excited about watching Favre lead the NFL in INTs wearing purple.
The guys is done.
He could barely even throw he ball towards the end of the season.
It was painfully obvious that he is getting too old to play at the NFL level.



I agree, especially with the lack of time given by our line. He's obviously not as mobile as he used to be. But I have a sneaky feeling Chilly might seriously look at him as a viable option.

Purple Floyd
01-09-2009, 11:09 AM
"BloodyHorns82" wrote:



Our team is not setup to rebound well from turnovers.
We grind, grind, grind, chew clock, and grind some more.
I'm not excited about watching Favre lead the NFL in INTs wearing purple.
The guys is done.
He could barely even throw he ball towards the end of the season.
It was painfully obvious that he is getting too old to play at the NFL level.


But what makes you think that changing the QB will accomplish that? I think the fact that we are conservative on offense is a product or the philosophy and mentality of the play callers than the talent at the position. If the coaches wanted to push the ball down the field they certainly could have done more of it no matter who we had at QB. Jackson has an arm that is just as strong as Brett's and for gods sake he probably could throw any more int's than brett does. They just don't call enough of those types of plays. Hell, even when Gus was in there he proved that we could go down the field if we wanted to. Yes, he did get INT's, but he also got some key PI calls that moved us down the field at critical times.

It doesn't do us much good to take on another gunslinger if we are only going to be involved in hand to hand combat.

thepacksux
01-09-2009, 11:14 AM
IF he gets his release i have no doubt that he will end up playing here for a season if he wants to continue playing.
From his perspective, we are a talent stocked team that is just a few pieces (and coaching) away from making a serious run.
From our perspective, we are a mostly veteran team with some key players getting close to the end of their contracts and a dire need to make a big push in the playoffs not only to win but also garner real consideration for a stadium.

I don't like it but I have a feeling that he will be our QB next year.

Ltrey33
01-09-2009, 11:16 AM
"BloodyHorns82" wrote:


"Ltrey" wrote:


"UffDaVikes" wrote:


I doubt he is going to want to come here and compete with McNabb for the starting job. We won't need both of them.


Ha! That's a wet dream.

If we can't get Cassel or one of the better guys in the draft, I would definitely like to see Favre as a Viking. There's no doubt he's better than and could take us further than either Gus or Tarvaris.


Our team is not setup to rebound well from turnovers.
We grind, grind, grind, chew clock, and grind some more.
I'm not excited about watching Favre lead the NFL in INTs wearing purple.
The guys is done.
He could barely even throw he ball towards the end of the season.
It was painfully obvious that he is getting too old to play at the NFL level.


I feel like our grind, grind, grind type of offense is a response to the lack of talent at quarterback, not necessarily ideology. Childress loved to throw it around when McNabb was his quarterback.

Honestly, Favre sucks in cold weather at this point in his career.

That's why at least nine games a year inside a dome with a great running game and a great defense could help prolong his career significantly.

Ltrey33
01-09-2009, 11:19 AM
"UffDaVikes" wrote:


"BloodyHorns82" wrote:



Our team is not setup to rebound well from turnovers.
We grind, grind, grind, chew clock, and grind some more.
I'm not excited about watching Favre lead the NFL in INTs wearing purple.
The guys is done.
He could barely even throw he ball towards the end of the season.
It was painfully obvious that he is getting too old to play at the NFL level.


But what makes you think that changing the QB will accomplish that? I think the fact that we are conservative on offense is a product or the philosophy and mentality of the play callers than the talent at the position. If the coaches wanted to push the ball down the field they certainly could have done more of it no matter who we had at QB. Jackson has an arm that is just as strong as Brett's and for gods sake he probably could throw any more int's than brett does. They just don't call enough of those types of plays. Hell, even when Gus was in there he proved that we could go down the field if we wanted to. Yes, he did get INT's, but he also got some key PI calls that moved us down the field at critical times.

It doesn't do us much good to take on another gunslinger if we are only going to be involved in hand to hand combat.


I disagree. I think our conservative offense is a direct result of our lack of talent at quarterback.

There's no way that Childress would trust Jackson (or even Gus) with a wide open offense. Childress isn't stupid (even though I call him that sometimes), and he isn't going to put the weight of the offense on the shoulders of a career backup or a draft bust.

bleedpurple
01-09-2009, 11:24 AM
"Ltrey" wrote:


"BloodyHorns82" wrote:


"Ltrey" wrote:


"UffDaVikes" wrote:


I doubt he is going to want to come here and compete with McNabb for the starting job. We won't need both of them.


Ha! That's a wet dream.

If we can't get Cassel or one of the better guys in the draft, I would definitely like to see Favre as a Viking. There's no doubt he's better than and could take us further than either Gus or Tarvaris.


Our team is not setup to rebound well from turnovers.
We grind, grind, grind, chew clock, and grind some more.
I'm not excited about watching Favre lead the NFL in INTs wearing purple.
The guys is done.
He could barely even throw he ball towards the end of the season.
It was painfully obvious that he is getting too old to play at the NFL level.


I feel like our grind, grind, grind type of offense is a response to the lack of talent at quarterback, not necessarily ideology. Childress loved to throw it around when McNabb was his quarterback.

Honestly, Favre sucks in cold weather at this point in his career.

That's why at least nine games a year inside a dome with a great running game and a great defense could help prolong his career significantly.


WRONG!!!
where the hell did you get/come up with that???... you act like Chilly called plays in Philly.... that statement is in direct contrast with his philosophy!!!...

jargomcfargo
01-09-2009, 11:32 AM
Just say no to Favre.

Mr-holland
01-09-2009, 11:36 AM
Get this guy in here. He's always worth giving a try ( don't go hating on me now Marr )

Ltrey33
01-09-2009, 11:43 AM
"bleedpurple" wrote:


"Ltrey" wrote:


"BloodyHorns82" wrote:


"Ltrey" wrote:


"UffDaVikes" wrote:


I doubt he is going to want to come here and compete with McNabb for the starting job. We won't need both of them.


Ha! That's a wet dream.

If we can't get Cassel or one of the better guys in the draft, I would definitely like to see Favre as a Viking. There's no doubt he's better than and could take us further than either Gus or Tarvaris.


Our team is not setup to rebound well from turnovers.
We grind, grind, grind, chew clock, and grind some more.
I'm not excited about watching Favre lead the NFL in INTs wearing purple.
The guys is done.
He could barely even throw he ball towards the end of the season.
It was painfully obvious that he is getting too old to play at the NFL level.


I feel like our grind, grind, grind type of offense is a response to the lack of talent at quarterback, not necessarily ideology. Childress loved to throw it around when McNabb was his quarterback.

Honestly, Favre sucks in cold weather at this point in his career.

That's why at least nine games a year inside a dome with a great running game and a great defense could help prolong his career significantly.


WRONG!!!
where the hell did you get/come up with that???... you act like Chilly called plays in Philly.... that statement is in direct contrast with his philosophy!!!...


IMO, any coach that lacks a quarterback is going to say their "philosophy" is to grind it out. They have no other choice.

Do you think Childress would be this conservative with McNabb or Manning at quarterback?

Childress is a west coast guy. He comes from the school of Bill Walsh , Mike Shanahan and Andy Reid. All three of those guys had hall of fame quarterbacks in their systems.

Childress knows better than to throw the ball when your quarterbacks are both incapable of completing more than 59% of their passes.

Purple Floyd
01-09-2009, 11:47 AM
"Ltrey" wrote:




Childress loved to throw it around when McNabb was his quarterback.




Childress never called a play while he was at Philly. That honor went to Andy Reid.


The philosophy on offense at philly and the talent are far different than they are here.

Childress has stated he was comfortable with Jackson at QB and that he could run the offense. If he wasn't he wouldn't have kept him as the starter at the end of the year.

Purple Floyd
01-09-2009, 11:51 AM
"Ltrey" wrote:


"bleedpurple" wrote:


"Ltrey" wrote:


"BloodyHorns82" wrote:


"Ltrey" wrote:




I doubt he is going to want to come here and compete with McNabb for the starting job. We won't need both of them.


Ha! That's a wet dream.

If we can't get Cassel or one of the better guys in the draft, I would definitely like to see Favre as a Viking. There's no doubt he's better than and could take us further than either Gus or Tarvaris.


Our team is not setup to rebound well from turnovers.
We grind, grind, grind, chew clock, and grind some more.
I'm not excited about watching Favre lead the NFL in INTs wearing purple.
The guys is done.
He could barely even throw he ball towards the end of the season.
It was painfully obvious that he is getting too old to play at the NFL level.


I feel like our grind, grind, grind type of offense is a response to the lack of talent at quarterback, not necessarily ideology. Childress loved to throw it around when McNabb was his quarterback.

Honestly, Favre sucks in cold weather at this point in his career.

That's why at least nine games a year inside a dome with a great running game and a great defense could help prolong his career significantly.


WRONG!!!
where the hell did you get/come up with that???... you act like Chilly called plays in Philly.... that statement is in direct contrast with his philosophy!!!...


IMO, any coach that lacks a quarterback is going to say their "philosophy" is to grind it out. They have no other choice.

Do you think Childress would be this conservative with McNabb or Manning at quarterback?

Childress is a west coast guy. He comes from the school of Bill Walsh , Mike Shanahan and Andy Reid. All three of those guys had hall of fame quarterbacks in their systems.

Childress knows better than to throw the ball when your quarterbacks are both incapable of completing more than 59% of their passes.


The flaw in your statement is that Childress does not believe he lacks a QB. He believes he has the QB to run his system the way he wants it run and has had that belief since 2006. He has stated that emphatically time and time again over the past few years.

jargomcfargo
01-09-2009, 11:57 AM
"UffDaVikes" wrote:


"Ltrey" wrote:


"bleedpurple" wrote:


"Ltrey" wrote:


"BloodyHorns82" wrote:






I doubt he is going to want to come here and compete with McNabb for the starting job. We won't need both of them.


Ha! That's a wet dream.

If we can't get Cassel or one of the better guys in the draft, I would definitely like to see Favre as a Viking. There's no doubt he's better than and could take us further than either Gus or Tarvaris.


Our team is not setup to rebound well from turnovers.
We grind, grind, grind, chew clock, and grind some more.
I'm not excited about watching Favre lead the NFL in INTs wearing purple.
The guys is done.
He could barely even throw he ball towards the end of the season.
It was painfully obvious that he is getting too old to play at the NFL level.


I feel like our grind, grind, grind type of offense is a response to the lack of talent at quarterback, not necessarily ideology. Childress loved to throw it around when McNabb was his quarterback.

Honestly, Favre sucks in cold weather at this point in his career.

That's why at least nine games a year inside a dome with a great running game and a great defense could help prolong his career significantly.


WRONG!!!
where the hell did you get/come up with that???... you act like Chilly called plays in Philly.... that statement is in direct contrast with his philosophy!!!...


IMO, any coach that lacks a quarterback is going to say their "philosophy" is to grind it out. They have no other choice.

Do you think Childress would be this conservative with McNabb or Manning at quarterback?

Childress is a west coast guy. He comes from the school of Bill Walsh , Mike Shanahan and Andy Reid. All three of those guys had hall of fame quarterbacks in their systems.

Childress knows better than to throw the ball when your quarterbacks are both incapable of completing more than 59% of their passes.


The flaw in your statement is that Childress does not believe he lacks a QB. He believes he has the QB to run his system the way he wants it run and has had that belief since 2006. He has stated that emphatically time and time again over the past few years.


It's a steam rolling powerhouse of a system that is mostly like watching paint dry, grass grow or metal rust.
It has kicked ass no matter who the quarterback was.
Nice to have a system!

Purple Floyd
01-09-2009, 12:02 PM
"jargomcfargo" wrote:


"UffDaVikes" wrote:


"Ltrey" wrote:


"bleedpurple" wrote:


"Ltrey" wrote:








I doubt he is going to want to come here and compete with McNabb for the starting job. We won't need both of them.


Ha! That's a wet dream.

If we can't get Cassel or one of the better guys in the draft, I would definitely like to see Favre as a Viking. There's no doubt he's better than and could take us further than either Gus or Tarvaris.


Our team is not setup to rebound well from turnovers.
We grind, grind, grind, chew clock, and grind some more.
I'm not excited about watching Favre lead the NFL in INTs wearing purple.
The guys is done.
He could barely even throw he ball towards the end of the season.
It was painfully obvious that he is getting too old to play at the NFL level.


I feel like our grind, grind, grind type of offense is a response to the lack of talent at quarterback, not necessarily ideology. Childress loved to throw it around when McNabb was his quarterback.

Honestly, Favre sucks in cold weather at this point in his career.

That's why at least nine games a year inside a dome with a great running game and a great defense could help prolong his career significantly.


WRONG!!!
where the hell did you get/come up with that???... you act like Chilly called plays in Philly.... that statement is in direct contrast with his philosophy!!!...


IMO, any coach that lacks a quarterback is going to say their "philosophy" is to grind it out. They have no other choice.

Do you think Childress would be this conservative with McNabb or Manning at quarterback?

Childress is a west coast guy. He comes from the school of Bill Walsh , Mike Shanahan and Andy Reid. All three of those guys had hall of fame quarterbacks in their systems.

Childress knows better than to throw the ball when your quarterbacks are both incapable of completing more than 59% of their passes.


The flaw in your statement is that Childress does not believe he lacks a QB. He believes he has the QB to run his system the way he wants it run and has had that belief since 2006. He has stated that emphatically time and time again over the past few years.


It's a steam rolling powerhouse of a system that is mostly like watching paint dry, grass grow or metal rust.
It has kicked ass no matter who the quarterback was.
Nice to have a system!



Amen brother

jessejames09
01-09-2009, 12:08 PM
"Ltrey" wrote:


"bleedpurple" wrote:


"Ltrey" wrote:


"BloodyHorns82" wrote:


"Ltrey" wrote:




I doubt he is going to want to come here and compete with McNabb for the starting job. We won't need both of them.


Ha! That's a wet dream.

If we can't get Cassel or one of the better guys in the draft, I would definitely like to see Favre as a Viking. There's no doubt he's better than and could take us further than either Gus or Tarvaris.


Our team is not setup to rebound well from turnovers.
We grind, grind, grind, chew clock, and grind some more.
I'm not excited about watching Favre lead the NFL in INTs wearing purple.
The guys is done.
He could barely even throw he ball towards the end of the season.
It was painfully obvious that he is getting too old to play at the NFL level.


I feel like our grind, grind, grind type of offense is a response to the lack of talent at quarterback, not necessarily ideology. Childress loved to throw it around when McNabb was his quarterback.

Honestly, Favre sucks in cold weather at this point in his career.

That's why at least nine games a year inside a dome with a great running game and a great defense could help prolong his career significantly.


WRONG!!!
where the hell did you get/come up with that???... you act like Chilly called plays in Philly.... that statement is in direct contrast with his philosophy!!!...


IMO, any coach that lacks a quarterback is going to say their "philosophy" is to grind it out. They have no other choice.

Do you think Childress would be this conservative with McNabb or Manning at quarterback?

Childress is a west coast guy. He comes from the school of Bill Walsh , Mike Shanahan and Andy Reid. All three of those guys had hall of fame quarterbacks in their systems.

Childress knows better than to throw the ball when your quarterbacks are both incapable of completing more than 59% of their passes.


+1 We are forced into our style of play. On the other hand Chilly needs to learn to have faith in his players, and trust that he has taught them to do the right thing.



A QB needs to be changing the play at the line of scrimmage, on nearly every play. Our OC has to have final say in what plays we call, even if Chilly strongly suggests another.

If we have areas that can't be trusted, and the coach feels he need to simplify things for people, then they need to be the first areas we address. Such as QB.

bleedpurple
01-09-2009, 12:15 PM
"UffDaVikes" wrote:


"Ltrey" wrote:


"bleedpurple" wrote:


"Ltrey" wrote:


"BloodyHorns82" wrote:






I doubt he is going to want to come here and compete with McNabb for the starting job. We won't need both of them.


Ha! That's a wet dream.

If we can't get Cassel or one of the better guys in the draft, I would definitely like to see Favre as a Viking. There's no doubt he's better than and could take us further than either Gus or Tarvaris.


Our team is not setup to rebound well from turnovers.
We grind, grind, grind, chew clock, and grind some more.
I'm not excited about watching Favre lead the NFL in INTs wearing purple.
The guys is done.
He could barely even throw he ball towards the end of the season.
It was painfully obvious that he is getting too old to play at the NFL level.


I feel like our grind, grind, grind type of offense is a response to the lack of talent at quarterback, not necessarily ideology. Childress loved to throw it around when McNabb was his quarterback.

Honestly, Favre sucks in cold weather at this point in his career.

That's why at least nine games a year inside a dome with a great running game and a great defense could help prolong his career significantly.


WRONG!!!
where the hell did you get/come up with that???... you act like Chilly called plays in Philly.... that statement is in direct contrast with his philosophy!!!...


IMO, any coach that lacks a quarterback is going to say their "philosophy" is to grind it out. They have no other choice.

Do you think Childress would be this conservative with McNabb or Manning at quarterback?

Childress is a west coast guy. He comes from the school of Bill Walsh , Mike Shanahan and Andy Reid. All three of those guys had hall of fame quarterbacks in their systems.

Childress knows better than to throw the ball when your quarterbacks are both incapable of completing more than 59% of their passes.


The flaw in your statement is that Childress does not believe he lacks a QB. He believes he has the QB to run his system the way he wants it run and has had that belief since 2006. He has stated that emphatically time and time again over the past few years.


even if he had a QB... his philosophy is similar to the steelers philosophy.. control the ball.. play stout defense, run the football and take your shots downfield when their there...

his philosophy isn't that of wide open pass pass pass...

gregair13
01-09-2009, 12:18 PM
No favre. He doesn't make the playoffs. Tjack-Gus combo made the playoffs, therefore they are better.

mountainviking
01-09-2009, 12:29 PM
Yeah, the whole "simplified" "dumbed down" "vanilla offense" has to go...one way or another.
We're going into year 4 now, no more excuses for boring, bland, repetive playcalling.
Open up the book and see what happens, for better or worse...but, try to fit them to the skillz at hand.
If the skillz are really that lacking, we need to make a move.


BUT, on the Farve...No Freakin Way Baby!!!!!!!
You do realize he led the league in INTs yet again, with an equal 22/22 TD/INT ratio!!??
Pretty much just like Gus (who came in tied for 4th in INTs with 15...in 10.5 games!) except instead of 2 mill/year, we're paying 10!
Thanks but NO THANKS!!!


http://www.nfl.com/stats/player

Ltrey33
01-09-2009, 03:14 PM
"UffDaVikes" wrote:


"Ltrey" wrote:


"bleedpurple" wrote:


"Ltrey" wrote:


"BloodyHorns82" wrote:






I doubt he is going to want to come here and compete with McNabb for the starting job. We won't need both of them.


Ha! That's a wet dream.

If we can't get Cassel or one of the better guys in the draft, I would definitely like to see Favre as a Viking. There's no doubt he's better than and could take us further than either Gus or Tarvaris.


Our team is not setup to rebound well from turnovers.
We grind, grind, grind, chew clock, and grind some more.
I'm not excited about watching Favre lead the NFL in INTs wearing purple.
The guys is done.
He could barely even throw he ball towards the end of the season.
It was painfully obvious that he is getting too old to play at the NFL level.


I feel like our grind, grind, grind type of offense is a response to the lack of talent at quarterback, not necessarily ideology. Childress loved to throw it around when McNabb was his quarterback.

Honestly, Favre sucks in cold weather at this point in his career.

That's why at least nine games a year inside a dome with a great running game and a great defense could help prolong his career significantly.


WRONG!!!
where the hell did you get/come up with that???... you act like Chilly called plays in Philly.... that statement is in direct contrast with his philosophy!!!...


IMO, any coach that lacks a quarterback is going to say their "philosophy" is to grind it out. They have no other choice.

Do you think Childress would be this conservative with McNabb or Manning at quarterback?

Childress is a west coast guy. He comes from the school of Bill Walsh , Mike Shanahan and Andy Reid. All three of those guys had hall of fame quarterbacks in their systems.

Childress knows better than to throw the ball when your quarterbacks are both incapable of completing more than 59% of their passes.


The flaw in your statement is that Childress does not believe he lacks a QB. He believes he has the QB to run his system the way he wants it run and has had that belief since 2006. He has stated that emphatically time and time again over the past few years.


Openly he doesn't think he lacks a quarterback.

However, benching Tarvaris in week 3 was a pretty good sign he wasn't happy. And benching Gus even though he was healthy after two weeks is a pretty good sign that he wasn't always happy with Gus's performance either.

bleedpurple
01-09-2009, 03:18 PM
"Ltrey" wrote:


"UffDaVikes" wrote:


"Ltrey" wrote:


"bleedpurple" wrote:


"Ltrey" wrote:








I doubt he is going to want to come here and compete with McNabb for the starting job. We won't need both of them.


Ha! That's a wet dream.

If we can't get Cassel or one of the better guys in the draft, I would definitely like to see Favre as a Viking. There's no doubt he's better than and could take us further than either Gus or Tarvaris.


Our team is not setup to rebound well from turnovers.
We grind, grind, grind, chew clock, and grind some more.
I'm not excited about watching Favre lead the NFL in INTs wearing purple.
The guys is done.
He could barely even throw he ball towards the end of the season.
It was painfully obvious that he is getting too old to play at the NFL level.


I feel like our grind, grind, grind type of offense is a response to the lack of talent at quarterback, not necessarily ideology. Childress loved to throw it around when McNabb was his quarterback.

Honestly, Favre sucks in cold weather at this point in his career.

That's why at least nine games a year inside a dome with a great running game and a great defense could help prolong his career significantly.


WRONG!!!
where the hell did you get/come up with that???... you act like Chilly called plays in Philly.... that statement is in direct contrast with his philosophy!!!...


IMO, any coach that lacks a quarterback is going to say their "philosophy" is to grind it out. They have no other choice.

Do you think Childress would be this conservative with McNabb or Manning at quarterback?

Childress is a west coast guy. He comes from the school of Bill Walsh , Mike Shanahan and Andy Reid. All three of those guys had hall of fame quarterbacks in their systems.

Childress knows better than to throw the ball when your quarterbacks are both incapable of completing more than 59% of their passes.


The flaw in your statement is that Childress does not believe he lacks a QB. He believes he has the QB to run his system the way he wants it run and has had that belief since 2006. He has stated that emphatically time and time again over the past few years.


Openly he doesn't think he lacks a quarterback.

However, benching Tarvaris in week 3 was a pretty good sign he wasn't happy. And benching Gus even though he was healthy after two weeks is a pretty good sign that he wasn't always happy with Gus's performance either.



How could he be... he threw 2 picks in the first half against the worst secondary in the league!

marstc09
01-09-2009, 03:24 PM
"jargomcfargo" wrote:


Just say yes to Favre.


Fixed.

marstc09
01-09-2009, 03:27 PM
"gregair13" wrote:


No favre. He doesn't make the playoffs. Tjack-Gus combo made the playoffs, therefore they are better.


Come on now greg. He turned helped turn a 4-12 team to 9-7. TJ and Gus turned a 8-8 team to 10-6.

Overlord
01-09-2009, 04:13 PM
"BloodyHorns82" wrote:


Our team is not setup to rebound well from turnovers.
We grind, grind, grind, chew clock, and grind some more.
I'm not excited about watching Favre lead the NFL in INTs wearing purple.
The guys is done.
He could barely even throw he ball towards the end of the season.
It was painfully obvious that he is getting too old to play at the NFL level.


I disagree with this.
Despite having a poor turnover ratio (-6 for the season off the top of my head), the team still finished 10-6.
In particular, the Vikes managed to win or stay close in games where they lost the turnover battle (there were 9).

Here's a short breakdown, with the expected winning percentage taken from this page (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/blog/?p=392):
-1: 1 win, 2 losses, expected 33.6%
-2: 2 wins, 0 losses, expected 19.6%
-3: 1 win, 1 loss, expected 11.9%
-4: 0 wins, 2 losses, expected 5.8%
total: 4 wins, 5 losses, expected ~1.6 wins

So if you could make sense of this, you see that the Vikes did significantly better than an average NFL team would be expected to.

The main reason for this, as near as I can tell, is that the Vikings' defense is good.
They stopped teams from converting those turnovers into points.
More generally, the team was pretty good, which makes them more likely to win in any situation.

As for Favre, I wouldn't feel too bad if he got released by the Jets off the top of the Empire State building.

Still, I'm not sure that bringing in Favre while drafting a young QB in round 1 wouldn't be the best move the team could make.
That would depend the Jets letting him go.
Even if they did tell him they would let him go at the end of the season if he requested, the Jets have a reputation for not being entirely honest with their players.

marstc09
01-09-2009, 04:30 PM
"BloodyHorns82" wrote:


"Ltrey" wrote:


"UffDaVikes" wrote:


I doubt he is going to want to come here and compete with McNabb for the starting job. We won't need both of them.


Ha! That's a wet dream.

If we can't get Cassel or one of the better guys in the draft, I would definitely like to see Favre as a Viking. There's no doubt he's better than and could take us further than either Gus or Tarvaris.


Our team is not setup to rebound well from turnovers.
We grind, grind, grind, chew clock, and grind some more.
I'm not excited about watching Favre lead the NFL in INTs wearing purple.
The guys is done.
He could barely even throw he ball towards the end of the season.
It was painfully obvious that he is getting too old to play at the NFL level.


Favre INTs - 22

Gus/TJ INTs - 17

Is there really that much of a difference?

jessejames09
01-09-2009, 04:55 PM
We get enough Favre like ints from TJ. Trying to save a play and winging it like there's no tomorrow, while being hit. We don't need the man himself (who we hate) running away with his interception record here.

The only benefit Favre has over TJ at this point is his ability to read a defense, and the capabilities his knowledge gives you in the playbook.

Cassel or even a top tier rookie to compete with TJ and Booty would make much more sense IMO. Favre would be a 1 year shot for a Superbowl, that odds say would be a failure.

MN_SkolVikings_NC
01-09-2009, 05:13 PM
"marstc09" wrote:


"BloodyHorns82" wrote:


"Ltrey" wrote:


"UffDaVikes" wrote:


I doubt he is going to want to come here and compete with McNabb for the starting job. We won't need both of them.


Ha! That's a wet dream.

If we can't get Cassel or one of the better guys in the draft, I would definitely like to see Favre as a Viking. There's no doubt he's better than and could take us further than either Gus or Tarvaris.


Our team is not setup to rebound well from turnovers.
We grind, grind, grind, chew clock, and grind some more.
I'm not excited about watching Favre lead the NFL in INTs wearing purple.
The guys is done.
He could barely even throw he ball towards the end of the season.
It was painfully obvious that he is getting too old to play at the NFL level.


Favre INTs - 22

Gus/TJ INTs - 17

Is there really that much of a difference?


Yeah, 5 int's and possibly 35 points given to the other team.
Favre is the worst idea for QB that is out there.
I would rather see Booty start.
At least he is young and can take a licking.
Favre was, is, and always will be one of the most overrated QB's in the league.
People act like he is automatic superbowl ring, when he has only managed ONE in his entire 45 year (sarcasm) career.
NO WAY do we need or should we want Favre.

marstc09
01-09-2009, 05:24 PM
"MN_SkolVikings_NC" wrote:


"marstc09" wrote:


"BloodyHorns82" wrote:


"Ltrey" wrote:


"UffDaVikes" wrote:


I doubt he is going to want to come here and compete with McNabb for the starting job. We won't need both of them.


Ha! That's a wet dream.

If we can't get Cassel or one of the better guys in the draft, I would definitely like to see Favre as a Viking. There's no doubt he's better than and could take us further than either Gus or Tarvaris.


Our team is not setup to rebound well from turnovers.
We grind, grind, grind, chew clock, and grind some more.
I'm not excited about watching Favre lead the NFL in INTs wearing purple.
The guys is done.
He could barely even throw he ball towards the end of the season.
It was painfully obvious that he is getting too old to play at the NFL level.


Favre INTs - 22

Gus/TJ INTs - 17

Is there really that much of a difference?


Yeah, 5 int's and possibly 35 points given to the other team.
Favre is the worst idea for QB that is out there.
I would rather see Booty start.
At least he is young and can take a licking.
Favre was, is, and always will be one of the most overrated QB's in the league.
People act like he is automatic superbowl ring, when he has only managed ONE in his entire 45 year (sarcasm) career.
NO WAY do we need or should we want Favre.


Possibly 35 points? That is a lot of speculation. Didn't Gus throw 4 INTs in the Bears game? Favre didn't do that. You do realize Gus only played 11 games, right?
You wanting to start Booty over Favre is laughable.

hav0x
01-09-2009, 06:51 PM
Lets compare for a minute shall we.

TJ/Gus
TD
INT
YDS

PCT

FUM
LOST
21

17

3213
59.1

10

4

Favre
TD
INT
YDS

PCT

FUM
LOST
22

22

3472
65.7

9


2

If you do the math Gus threw 1.43 ints per game, if you multiply it by a full 16 games starting he would be at 22.8 ints or about 1 more than Favre.

I'll take that 65.7% over 59.1% no matter who the qb is.

Some of you need to get over your blind hatred of Favre and just accept what would be the best for the team, not your own desires.

scottishvike
01-09-2009, 07:17 PM
Why bring the circus that is Favre to the Vikings when his best days are long gone? You can't beat the law of diminishing returns, I would rather have someone who offers something more long term, whether or not that is Jackson or Booty I really don't know right now.

phillyj
01-09-2009, 07:22 PM
jut say FARGIN NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

V4L
01-09-2009, 07:25 PM
Send us McbNabb Philly

Him and his Chunky soup

Gdubs1771
01-09-2009, 07:38 PM
i prefer progresso....

BadlandsVikings
01-09-2009, 07:44 PM
We don't need wrangler in the dome

carta4eva
01-09-2009, 07:51 PM
"Overlord" wrote:


"BloodyHorns82" wrote:


Our team is not setup to rebound well from turnovers.
We grind, grind, grind, chew clock, and grind some more.
I'm not excited about watching Favre lead the NFL in INTs wearing purple.
The guys is done.
He could barely even throw he ball towards the end of the season.
It was painfully obvious that he is getting too old to play at the NFL level.


I disagree with this.
Despite having a poor turnover ratio (-6 for the season off the top of my head), the team still finished 10-6.
In particular, the Vikes managed to win or stay close in games where they lost the turnover battle (there were 9).

Here's a short breakdown, with the expected winning percentage taken from this page (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/blog/?p=392):
-1: 1 win, 2 losses, expected 33.6%
-2: 2 wins, 0 losses, expected 19.6%
-3: 1 win, 1 loss, expected 11.9%
-4: 0 wins, 2 losses, expected 5.8%
total: 4 wins, 5 losses, expected ~1.6 wins

So if you could make sense of this, you see that the Vikes did significantly better than an average NFL team would be expected to.

The main reason for this, as near as I can tell, is that the Vikings' defense is good.
They stopped teams from converting those turnovers into points.
More generally, the team was pretty good, which makes them more likely to win in any situation.

As for Favre, I wouldn't feel too bad if he got released by the Jets off the top of the Empire State building.

Still, I'm not sure that bringing in Favre while drafting a young QB in round 1 wouldn't be the best move the team could make.
That would depend the Jets letting him go.
Even if they did tell him they would let him go at the end of the season if he requested, the Jets have a reputation for not being entirely honest with their players.


I wonder how well our team would've fared with 13 turnovers all season like Miami... too many mistakes and bringing the all-time interception king won't help a bit, I say we go after Garcia, perfect fit for our Kick ASS Offense

SKOL
01-09-2009, 08:38 PM
Favre last won the MVP award in 1997.
Not to overstate the obvious, but that is 11, going on 12 years ago.
As scottishvike said, "his best days are LONG gone".

I like his veteran savvy, but he can no longer hold up in the NFL.

JeffSeimon
01-09-2009, 08:56 PM
If we bring in a veteran I hope its Bulger or Hasselbeck.

Just my .02

phillyj
01-09-2009, 09:13 PM
"V4L" wrote:


Send us McbNabb Philly

Him and his Chunky soup


We'll send you A.J. Feely, Andy Reid and cheesesteak for 1 can of progresso

misplacedminnesotan
01-09-2009, 09:34 PM
"phillyj" wrote:


"V4L" wrote:


Send us McbNabb Philly

Him and his Chunky soup


We'll send you A.J. Feely, Andy Reid and cheesesteak for 1 can of progresso


I predict that McNabb is going to have a career low day against the Giants.
That will cause philly fans to scream for this head, and widen the rift between McNabb and Philly.
He will then be traded.

phillyj
01-10-2009, 09:45 AM
"misplacedminnesotan" wrote:


"phillyj" wrote:


"V4L" wrote:


Send us McbNabb Philly

Him and his Chunky soup


We'll send you A.J. Feely, Andy Reid and cheesesteak for 1 can of progresso


I predict that McNabb is going to have a career low day against the Giants.
That will cause philly fans to scream for this head, and widen the rift between McNabb and Philly.
He will then be traded.


WE WILL NOT TRADE DMAC!!!!! Even with a bad day he will not be traded, we have a weak wr corp and a backup QB that is not ready to play in the XFL at this point. Nothing to see here people look away.

phillyj
01-10-2009, 09:46 AM
"misplacedminnesotan" wrote:


"phillyj" wrote:


"V4L" wrote:


Send us McbNabb Philly

Him and his Chunky soup


We'll send you A.J. Feely, Andy Reid and cheesesteak for 1 can of progresso


I predict that McNabb is going to have a career low day against the Giants.
That will cause philly fans to scream for this head, and widen the rift between McNabb and Philly.
He will then be traded.


Oh, and what do you have to offer for Dmac?

Marrdro
01-10-2009, 09:56 AM
"ejmat" wrote:


"singersp" wrote:


"Prophet" wrote:


I hope so, just so I can see Marr beeyatch and moan while he's sporting a Favre jersey.


http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b21/singersp82759/marrdrofavre.jpg


That's Favredro.


Sometimes I wish I didn't log on at home.
I almost lost my breakfast over that one..... ;D

Marrdro
01-10-2009, 09:58 AM
"marstc09" wrote:


"bleedpurple" wrote:


"Marrdro" wrote:


"marstc09" wrote:


Favre to wait before deciding on '09

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3818870

I love all the "I can't believe the Jets Players Didn't Like Me" crap coming out of his mouth........To think, some teamates would actually speak ill about him.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA


yeah, but if you really look at it.. he never really looked happy to be there.... I think he wants out.. and barring us getting a competent QB in the offseason, I think a washed up banged up Favre is a better stop gap than anyone currently on our roster...

He's one season removed from being 13-3 and an MVP candidate.. u can't discount that...

Look at what he did to the jets running game.. compared to what it was the year before.. TJ led the AFC in rushing..

so i wouldn't be esctatic about him being here, but it's better than having Frerotte starting or hoping TJ (while showing promise) gets his head out of his jiggly butt!...


Exactly. It's funny how some don't register in their brains. We might have no other option. Favre is a better than anything we had this year. He is not my first option but he is a very good option.

Ya
a guy who threw 20 some odd INT's is a very good option......
HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA

marstc09
01-10-2009, 10:44 AM
"Marrdro" wrote:


"marstc09" wrote:


"bleedpurple" wrote:


"Marrdro" wrote:


"marstc09" wrote:


Favre to wait before deciding on '09

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3818870

I love all the "I can't believe the Jets Players Didn't Like Me" crap coming out of his mouth........To think, some teamates would actually speak ill about him.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA


yeah, but if you really look at it.. he never really looked happy to be there.... I think he wants out.. and barring us getting a competent QB in the offseason, I think a washed up banged up Favre is a better stop gap than anyone currently on our roster...

He's one season removed from being 13-3 and an MVP candidate.. u can't discount that...

Look at what he did to the jets running game.. compared to what it was the year before.. TJ led the AFC in rushing..

so i wouldn't be esctatic about him being here, but it's better than having Frerotte starting or hoping TJ (while showing promise) gets his head out of his jiggly butt!...


Exactly. It's funny how some don't register in their brains. We might have no other option. Favre is a better than anything we had this year. He is not my first option but he is a very good option.

Ya
a guy who threw 20 some odd INT's is a very good option......
HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA


65.7 completion % is greater than 59.1 according to my math.

http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd72/marstc09/Favre_Vikings.jpg

Marrdro
01-10-2009, 10:47 AM
"marstc09" wrote:


"Marrdro" wrote:


"marstc09" wrote:


"bleedpurple" wrote:


"Marrdro" wrote:




Favre to wait before deciding on '09

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3818870

I love all the "I can't believe the Jets Players Didn't Like Me" crap coming out of his mouth........To think, some teamates would actually speak ill about him.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA


yeah, but if you really look at it.. he never really looked happy to be there.... I think he wants out.. and barring us getting a competent QB in the offseason, I think a washed up banged up Favre is a better stop gap than anyone currently on our roster...

He's one season removed from being 13-3 and an MVP candidate.. u can't discount that...

Look at what he did to the jets running game.. compared to what it was the year before.. TJ led the AFC in rushing..

so i wouldn't be esctatic about him being here, but it's better than having Frerotte starting or hoping TJ (while showing promise) gets his head out of his jiggly butt!...


Exactly. It's funny how some don't register in their brains. We might have no other option. Favre is a better than anything we had this year. He is not my first option but he is a very good option.

Ya
a guy who threw 20 some odd INT's is a very good option......
HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA


65.7 completion % is greater than 59.1 according to my math.

http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd72/marstc09/Favre_Vikings.jpg

Niether will get us very far IMHO.
Look elsewhere for your QB solution my friend...... ;D

marstc09
01-10-2009, 10:49 AM
"Marrdro" wrote:


"marstc09" wrote:


"Marrdro" wrote:


"marstc09" wrote:


"bleedpurple" wrote:






Favre to wait before deciding on '09

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3818870

I love all the "I can't believe the Jets Players Didn't Like Me" crap coming out of his mouth........To think, some teamates would actually speak ill about him.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA


yeah, but if you really look at it.. he never really looked happy to be there.... I think he wants out.. and barring us getting a competent QB in the offseason, I think a washed up banged up Favre is a better stop gap than anyone currently on our roster...

He's one season removed from being 13-3 and an MVP candidate.. u can't discount that...

Look at what he did to the jets running game.. compared to what it was the year before.. TJ led the AFC in rushing..

so i wouldn't be esctatic about him being here, but it's better than having Frerotte starting or hoping TJ (while showing promise) gets his head out of his jiggly butt!...


Exactly. It's funny how some don't register in their brains. We might have no other option. Favre is a better than anything we had this year. He is not my first option but he is a very good option.

Ya
a guy who threw 20 some odd INT's is a very good option......
HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA


65.7 completion % is greater than 59.1 according to my math.

http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd72/marstc09/Favre_Vikings.jpg

Niether will get us very far IMHO.
Look elsewhere for your QB solution my friend...... ;D


Didn't I already state he is not my first option?

http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd72/marstc09/Favre-1.jpg

Marrdro
01-10-2009, 10:52 AM
"marstc09" wrote:


Didn't I already state he is not my first option?

http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd72/marstc09/Favre-1.jpg

Love the pic........

And yes, I saw that, however, as long as he is still an option in your mind I must endevour to convince you otherwise... ;D

marstc09
01-10-2009, 11:00 AM
"Marrdro" wrote:


"marstc09" wrote:


Didn't I already state he is not my first option?

http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd72/marstc09/Favre-1.jpg

Love the pic........

And yes, I saw that, however, as long as he is still an option in your mind I must endevour to convince you otherwise... ;D


He is close to the bottom.

misplacedminnesotan
01-10-2009, 11:35 AM
"phillyj" wrote:


"misplacedminnesotan" wrote:


"phillyj" wrote:


"V4L" wrote:


Send us McbNabb Philly

Him and his Chunky soup


We'll send you A.J. Feely, Andy Reid and cheesesteak for 1 can of progresso


I predict that McNabb is going to have a career low day against the Giants.
That will cause philly fans to scream for this head, and widen the rift between McNabb and Philly.
He will then be traded.


WE WILL NOT TRADE DMAC!!!!! Even with a bad day he will not be traded, we have a weak wr corp and a backup QB that is not ready to play in the XFL at this point. Nothing to see here people look away.


Yet the fans keep calling for his head after every loss (or tie).
hmmmmm.

carta4eva
01-10-2009, 12:17 PM
"misplacedminnesotan" wrote:


"phillyj" wrote:


"V4L" wrote:


Send us McbNabb Philly

Him and his Chunky soup


We'll send you A.J. Feely, Andy Reid and cheesesteak for 1 can of progresso


I predict that McNabb is going to have a career low day against the Giants.
That will cause philly fans to scream for this head, and widen the rift between McNabb and Philly.
He will then be traded.


I would love for it to happen, but eli will have a worse day even if it did, because that Eagles defense is fierce...

Ltrey33
01-10-2009, 12:24 PM
"carta4eva" wrote:


"misplacedminnesotan" wrote:


"phillyj" wrote:


"V4L" wrote:


Send us McbNabb Philly

Him and his Chunky soup


We'll send you A.J. Feely, Andy Reid and cheesesteak for 1 can of progresso


I predict that McNabb is going to have a career low day against the Giants.
That will cause philly fans to scream for this head, and widen the rift between McNabb and Philly.
He will then be traded.


I would love for it to happen, but eli will have a worse day even if it did, because that Eagles defense is fierce...


So would I, but I think he'd have to have a TERRIBLE day.

phillyj
01-10-2009, 12:40 PM
"misplacedminnesotan" wrote:


"phillyj" wrote:


"misplacedminnesotan" wrote:


"phillyj" wrote:


"V4L" wrote:


Send us McbNabb Philly

Him and his Chunky soup


We'll send you A.J. Feely, Andy Reid and cheesesteak for 1 can of progresso


I predict that McNabb is going to have a career low day against the Giants.
That will cause philly fans to scream for this head, and widen the rift between McNabb and Philly.
He will then be traded.


WE WILL NOT TRADE DMAC!!!!! Even with a bad day he will not be traded, we have a weak wr corp and a backup QB that is not ready to play in the XFL at this point. Nothing to see here people look away.


Yet the fans keep calling for his head after every loss (or tie).
hmmmmm.
Who is calling for DMACS head? Who? We want our joke of a coach gone, and sorry that he tutored your HC. THere are always idiots that want Dmac gone, the majority understand what he brings to the team, I don't like a few things about him, his ability to laugh and joke on the sideline when we are getting beat, or not knowing there was a chance to tie ??? but the guy has had one true #1 Wr. in his time nad has played at a high level with a bunch of jokers half the time. So I will personally attack my F.O. if they trade him. unless you guys throw in a case of grain belt ;D

singersp
01-10-2009, 02:48 PM
Second-Best Example of Why You Don't Deal with the Devil: The Jets throwing out Chad Pennington like a month-old banana peel in favor of the sexier Brett Favre. The warning signs around Favre (age, turnovers, dedication, coachability) were visible from space with the naked eye. They spent like drunken sailors on leave in Phuket trying to win in 2008. Now they are stuck with an old, extraordinarily overpaid team with no coach, a washed-up QB, and the ignominy of having Pennington come into their stadium and vanquishing their playoff aspirations. Here's betting that the Jets would have won at least 12 games with the reliable, hyper-accurate Pennington.

http://www.realgmfootball.com/src_encroachment/144/20081230/the_4th_annual_icness_awards/

phillyj
01-11-2009, 06:13 PM
"carta4eva" wrote:


"misplacedminnesotan" wrote:


"phillyj" wrote:


"V4L" wrote:


Send us McbNabb Philly

Him and his Chunky soup


We'll send you A.J. Feely, Andy Reid and cheesesteak for 1 can of progresso


I predict that McNabb is going to have a career low day against the Giants.
That will cause philly fans to scream for this head, and widen the rift between McNabb and Philly.
He will then be traded.


I would love for it to happen, but eli will have a worse day even if it did, because that Eagles defense is fierce...


Smart Man

purplengoldblur
01-12-2009, 12:00 AM
I'm sorry but the last thing that this Vikings team needs is that overpaid, underachieving, washed up Packer drama Queen of a headcase known as Brett Favre.
Someone tell me please that this is someones sick attempt at a joke. >:(

michaelmazid
01-12-2009, 12:49 AM
"purplengoldblur" wrote:


I'm sorry but the last thing that this Vikings team needs is that overpaid, underachieving, washed up Packer drama Queen of a headcase known as Brett Favre.
Someone tell me please that this is someones sick attempt at a joke. >:(



I couldn't have said it any better than this

PurpleTide
01-12-2009, 07:12 AM
"purplengoldblur" wrote:


I'm sorry but the last thing that this Vikings team needs is that overpaid, underachieving, washed up Packer drama Queen of a headcase known as Brett Favre.
Someone tell me please that this is someones sick attempt at a joke. >:(


We'd all be pulling our hair out after another multiple interception game from Farve, please come to your senses and stop hoping for us to pick up that ol' weezer.

singersp
01-12-2009, 07:33 AM
I don't want Favre here either.

You had two kinds of Packer fans in WI.

1. You have the die-hard Packer fans

2. You had the Favre fans, many of whom jumped on the Packer bandwagon just because of Favre.

When Favre went to the Jets, many of the Favre fans quickly jettisoned their green & gold jerseys, bought #4 Jets jerseys & hopped onto their bandwagon.

If Mr. Interception (who IMO doesn't have much left in him ala Brad Johnson) comes to the Vikings, we will be inundated by a flurry of Favre crotch-sniffers & bandwagoners itching to hop on the Vikings bandwagon if even for a year. Not to mention enduring all the media attention the media whore will crave & the baggage that comes with it.

I'm not to crazy about that idea at all. We saw that type of bandwagoners leave here in 2005 & picked up only a few Sooner fans when we signed AD.

Nope, we don't need that headache here. Let some other team deal with it.

tb04512
01-12-2009, 11:16 AM
G-r-o-s-s

Marrdro
01-12-2009, 03:54 PM
"singersp" wrote:


Second-Best Example of Why You Don't Deal with the Devil: The Jets throwing out Chad Pennington like a month-old banana peel in favor of the sexier Brett Favre. The warning signs around Favre (age, turnovers, dedication, coachability) were visible from space with the naked eye. They spent like drunken sailors on leave in Phuket trying to win in 2008. Now they are stuck with an old, extraordinarily overpaid team with no coach, a washed-up QB, and the ignominy of having Pennington come into their stadium and vanquishing their playoff aspirations. Here's betting that the Jets would have won at least 12 games with the reliable, hyper-accurate Pennington.

http://www.realgmfootball.com/src_encroachment/144/20081230/the_4th_annual_icness_awards/


AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHA.
Now thats entertainment.... ;D

marstc09
01-12-2009, 03:58 PM
"singersp" wrote:


I don't want Favre here either.

You had two kinds of Packer fans in WI.

1. You have the die-hard Packer fans

2. You had the Favre fans, many of whom jumped on the Packer bandwagon just because of Favre.

When Favre went to the Jets, many of the Favre fans quickly jettisoned their green & gold jerseys, bought #4 Jets jerseys & hopped onto their bandwagon.

If Mr. Interception (who IMO doesn't have much left in him ala Brad Johnson) comes to the Vikings, we will be inundated by a flurry of Favre crotch-sniffers & bandwagoners itching to hop on the Vikings bandwagon if even for a year. Not to mention enduring all the media attention the media whore will crave & the baggage that comes with it.

I'm not to crazy about that idea at all. We saw that type of bandwagoners leave here in 2005 & picked up only a few Sooner fans when we signed AD.

Nope, we don't need that headache here. Let some other team deal with it.


At least we will sell tickets.

Marrdro
01-12-2009, 03:59 PM
"marstc09" wrote:


"singersp" wrote:


I don't want Favre here either.

You had two kinds of Packer fans in WI.

1. You have the die-hard Packer fans

2. You had the Favre fans, many of whom jumped on the Packer bandwagon just because of Favre.

When Favre went to the Jets, many of the Favre fans quickly jettisoned their green & gold jerseys, bought #4 Jets jerseys & hopped onto their bandwagon.

If Mr. Interception (who IMO doesn't have much left in him ala Brad Johnson) comes to the Vikings, we will be inundated by a flurry of Favre crotch-sniffers & bandwagoners itching to hop on the Vikings bandwagon if even for a year. Not to mention enduring all the media attention the media whore will crave & the baggage that comes with it.

I'm not to crazy about that idea at all. We saw that type of bandwagoners leave here in 2005 & picked up only a few Sooner fans when we signed AD.

Nope, we don't need that headache here. Let some other team deal with it.


At least we will sell tickets.

Are you sure you want those types of people buying tickets?

marstc09
01-12-2009, 04:03 PM
"Marrdro" wrote:


"marstc09" wrote:


"singersp" wrote:


I don't want Favre here either.

You had two kinds of Packer fans in WI.

1. You have the die-hard Packer fans

2. You had the Favre fans, many of whom jumped on the Packer bandwagon just because of Favre.

When Favre went to the Jets, many of the Favre fans quickly jettisoned their green & gold jerseys, bought #4 Jets jerseys & hopped onto their bandwagon.

If Mr. Interception (who IMO doesn't have much left in him ala Brad Johnson) comes to the Vikings, we will be inundated by a flurry of Favre crotch-sniffers & bandwagoners itching to hop on the Vikings bandwagon if even for a year. Not to mention enduring all the media attention the media whore will crave & the baggage that comes with it.

I'm not to crazy about that idea at all. We saw that type of bandwagoners leave here in 2005 & picked up only a few Sooner fans when we signed AD.

Nope, we don't need that headache here. Let some other team deal with it.


At least we will sell tickets.

Are you sure you want those types of people buying tickets?


As long as they make noise, I could care less.

bleedpurple
01-12-2009, 04:57 PM
"marstc09" wrote:


"Marrdro" wrote:


"marstc09" wrote:


"singersp" wrote:


I don't want Favre here either.

You had two kinds of Packer fans in WI.

1. You have the die-hard Packer fans

2. You had the Favre fans, many of whom jumped on the Packer bandwagon just because of Favre.

When Favre went to the Jets, many of the Favre fans quickly jettisoned their green & gold jerseys, bought #4 Jets jerseys & hopped onto their bandwagon.

If Mr. Interception (who IMO doesn't have much left in him ala Brad Johnson) comes to the Vikings, we will be inundated by a flurry of Favre crotch-sniffers & bandwagoners itching to hop on the Vikings bandwagon if even for a year. Not to mention enduring all the media attention the media whore will crave & the baggage that comes with it.

I'm not to crazy about that idea at all. We saw that type of bandwagoners leave here in 2005 & picked up only a few Sooner fans when we signed AD.

Nope, we don't need that headache here. Let some other team deal with it.


At least we will sell tickets.

Are you sure you want those types of people buying tickets?


As long as they make noise, I could care less.


I"m sure zygi could give a rats ass who's buying tickets as long as they are buying them......

singersp
01-12-2009, 05:18 PM
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b21/singersp82759/Packers/scan0002.jpg

Purple Floyd
01-12-2009, 05:22 PM
"singersp" wrote:



We saw that type of bandwagoners leave here in 2005 & picked up only a few Sooner fans when we signed AD.



That plus a whole bunch of Alabama State fans when we took jackson ;D

marstc09
01-12-2009, 05:24 PM
"singersp" wrote:


http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b21/singersp82759/Packers/scan0002.jpg


or a TD. He was still #9 in the league in TD passes.

C Mac D
01-12-2009, 05:28 PM
"marstc09" wrote:


"singersp" wrote:


http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b21/singersp82759/Packers/scan0002.jpg


or a TD. He was still #9 in the league in TD passes.


You're still at this? He was #1 in INTs and they didn't make the playoffs.

http://coreygilmore.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/08/beating_a_dead_horse.jpg

marstc09
01-12-2009, 05:31 PM
"C" wrote:


"marstc09" wrote:


"singersp" wrote:


http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b21/singersp82759/Packers/scan0002.jpg


or a TD. He was still #9 in the league in TD passes.


You're still at this? He was #1 in INTs and they didn't make the playoffs.

http://coreygilmore.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/08/beating_a_dead_horse.jpg


Gus was right behind him and we made the playoffs. What's your point?

C Mac D
01-12-2009, 05:32 PM
"marstc09" wrote:


"C" wrote:


"marstc09" wrote:


"singersp" wrote:


http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b21/singersp82759/Packers/scan0002.jpg


or a TD. He was still #9 in the league in TD passes.


You're still at this? He was #1 in INTs and they didn't make the playoffs.

http://coreygilmore.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/08/beating_a_dead_horse.jpg


Gus was right behind him and we made the playoffs. What's your point?


Right there... you just compared Brett Favre to Gus Ferrotte... and Ferrotte had less INTs.

How's that for a point?

marstc09
01-12-2009, 05:41 PM
"C" wrote:


"marstc09" wrote:


"C" wrote:


"marstc09" wrote:


"singersp" wrote:


http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b21/singersp82759/Packers/scan0002.jpg


or a TD. He was still #9 in the league in TD passes.


You're still at this? He was #1 in INTs and they didn't make the playoffs.

http://coreygilmore.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/08/beating_a_dead_horse.jpg


Gus was right behind him and we made the playoffs. What's your point?


Right there... you just compared Brett Favre to Gus Ferrotte... and Ferrotte had less INTs.

How's that for a point?


Farve throws TDs and Gus can't.

C Mac D
01-12-2009, 05:42 PM
"marstc09" wrote:


Farve throws TDs and Gus can't.


You still want Favre next year... don't you?

BadlandsVikings
01-12-2009, 05:43 PM
"C" wrote:


"marstc09" wrote:


Farve throws TDs and Gus can't.


You still want Favre next year... don't you?


He's Farvesexual

Purple Floyd
01-12-2009, 05:45 PM
"marstc09" wrote:



Farve throws TDs and Gus can't.


99 reasons you are wrong ;D

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singersp
01-12-2009, 06:34 PM
2008 TD's/G:

Jackson: 1.64

Favre: 1.38

Frerotte: 1.14



2008 INT's/G:

Jackson: 0.36

Favre: 1.38

Frerotte: 1.43

V4L
01-12-2009, 06:41 PM
"singersp" wrote:


2008 TD's/G:

Jackson: 1.64

Favre: 1.38

Frerotte: 1.14



2008 INT's/G:

Jackson: 0.36

Favre: 1.38

Frerotte: 1.43





Mr. Fuckin Reality Check

kevoncox
01-12-2009, 07:24 PM
I would take Farve in a heart beat.

ThorSPL
01-12-2009, 07:43 PM
"singersp" wrote:


2008 TD's/G:

Jackson: 1.64

Favre: 1.38

Frerotte: 1.14



2008 INT's/G:

Jackson: 0.36

Favre: 1.38

Frerotte: 1.43




Oh... SNAP

Statistical bitch slap!

marstc09
01-12-2009, 10:11 PM
"C" wrote:


"marstc09" wrote:


Farve throws TDs and Gus can't.


You still want Favre next year... don't you?


Well he is not my first choice but unfortunately he might be the only option unless you want Leftwich or Carr. Kitna probably will be available. The trade option is there but for who? Anderson, Cassel, and maybe Bulger. To tell you the truth I think Favre is the better than any of those guys.

marstc09
01-12-2009, 10:14 PM
"singersp" wrote:


2008 TD's/G:

Jackson: 1.64

Favre: 1.38

Frerotte: 1.14



2008 INT's/G:

Jackson: 0.36

Favre: 1.38

Frerotte: 1.43




Never said TJ was not the man of the future. In fact I believe he is. I just think he needs to slow down and take a step back. He was thrown into the fire too early. Let him sit one year behind favre. It will only benefit him. Look what it did for Rodgers!

Marrdro
01-13-2009, 09:18 AM
"BadlandsViking" wrote:


"C" wrote:


"marstc09" wrote:


Farve throws TDs and Gus can't.


You still want Favre next year... don't you?


He's Farvesexual

He has a deep burning desire for all EXPUKER players.
The two topping his list lately are Lord Dickhead and Tauscher.

Marrdro
01-13-2009, 09:19 AM
"ThorSPL" wrote:


"singersp" wrote:


2008 TD's/G:

Jackson: 1.64

Favre: 1.38

Frerotte: 1.14



2008 INT's/G:

Jackson: 0.36

Favre: 1.38

Frerotte: 1.43




Oh... SNAP

Statistical beeyatch slap!

Don't ya just love it...... ;D

marstc09
01-13-2009, 09:22 AM
"Marrdro" wrote:


"ThorSPL" wrote:


"singersp" wrote:


2008 TD's/G:

Jackson: 1.64

Favre: 1.38

Frerotte: 1.14



2008 INT's/G:

Jackson: 0.36

Favre: 1.38

Frerotte: 1.43




Oh... SNAP

Statistical beeyatch slap!

Don't ya just love it...... ;D


Your not even comparing apples to apples. How many games has TJ played this year? Try again.

Marrdro
01-13-2009, 09:28 AM
"marstc09" wrote:


"Marrdro" wrote:


"ThorSPL" wrote:


"singersp" wrote:


2008 TD's/G:

Jackson: 1.64

Favre: 1.38

Frerotte: 1.14



2008 INT's/G:

Jackson: 0.36

Favre: 1.38

Frerotte: 1.43




Oh... SNAP

Statistical beeyatch slap!

Don't ya just love it...... ;D


Your not even comparing apples to apples. How many games has TJ played this year? Try again.

So are you saying we should only compare the last 5 games TJ played against the last 5 games Lord Dickhead played........

WOW.
Your to easy.
;D

marstc09
01-13-2009, 09:38 AM
"Marrdro" wrote:


"marstc09" wrote:


"Marrdro" wrote:


"ThorSPL" wrote:


"singersp" wrote:


2008 TD's/G:

Jackson: 1.64

Favre: 1.38

Frerotte: 1.14



2008 INT's/G:

Jackson: 0.36

Favre: 1.38

Frerotte: 1.43




Oh... SNAP

Statistical beeyatch slap!

Don't ya just love it...... ;D


Your not even comparing apples to apples. How many games has TJ played this year? Try again.

So are you saying we should only compare the last 5 games TJ played against the last 5 games Lord Dickhead played........

WOW.
Your to easy.
;D


Wrong. Maybe he should start a whole season before you compare him to a GOD that has had 273 consecutive starts. 5 games it not enough to make a judgment on if TJ is better than Favre, a first ballot hall of famer. Just like when Singer says 21 games is not enough to judge if TJ is going to be a starter. Stop reaching for something that is not there.

Marrdro
01-13-2009, 09:42 AM
"marstc09" wrote:


"Marrdro" wrote:


"marstc09" wrote:


"Marrdro" wrote:


"ThorSPL" wrote:




2008 TD's/G:

Jackson: 1.64

Favre: 1.38

Frerotte: 1.14



2008 INT's/G:

Jackson: 0.36

Favre: 1.38

Frerotte: 1.43




Oh... SNAP

Statistical beeyatch slap!

Don't ya just love it...... ;D


Your not even comparing apples to apples. How many games has TJ played this year? Try again.

So are you saying we should only compare the last 5 games TJ played against the last 5 games Lord Dickhead played........

WOW.
Your to easy.
;D


Wrong. Maybe he should start a whole season before you compare him to a GOD that has had 273 consecutive starts. 5 games it not enough to make a judgment on if TJ is better than Favre, a first ballot hall of famer. Just like when Singer says 21 games is not enough to judge if TJ is going to be a starter. Stop reaching for something that is not there.

So now your are contending that a player comes into the league playing at his peak level and maintains that level all the way through his career without any improvment or degradation in skills over time.
:o

As to who is better right now, I would say that statistically (over the last 5 games) there is a clear winner and it isn't your boy..... :P(lots of sticking tongue out smilies ) :P
;D

bleedpurple
01-13-2009, 12:16 PM
"Marrdro" wrote:


"marstc09" wrote:


"Marrdro" wrote:


"marstc09" wrote:


"Marrdro" wrote:






2008 TD's/G:

Jackson: 1.64

Favre: 1.38

Frerotte: 1.14



2008 INT's/G:

Jackson: 0.36

Favre: 1.38

Frerotte: 1.43




Oh... SNAP

Statistical beeyatch slap!

Don't ya just love it...... ;D


Your not even comparing apples to apples. How many games has TJ played this year? Try again.

So are you saying we should only compare the last 5 games TJ played against the last 5 games Lord Dickhead played........

WOW.
Your to easy.
;D


Wrong. Maybe he should start a whole season before you compare him to a GOD that has had 273 consecutive starts. 5 games it not enough to make a judgment on if TJ is better than Favre, a first ballot hall of famer. Just like when Singer says 21 games is not enough to judge if TJ is going to be a starter. Stop reaching for something that is not there.

So now your are contending that a player comes into the league playing at his peak level and maintains that level all the way through his career without any improvment or degradation in skills over time.

:o

As to who is better right now, I would say that statistically (over the last 5 games) there is a clear winner and it isn't your boy..... :P(lots of sticking tongue out smilies ) :P

;D


barring him being healthy, i'll take favre over TJ for right now.... shoot, look at what collins, warner and garcia are doing and they are pretty much just as old as favre... so was testaverde....

I don't care what team they played for prior to being here, i just want good players on our team regardless of where they come from and if that's at the expense of the packers, all the better...

don't act like you wouldn't want Greg Jennings, or Donald Driver on our team.... or let's be honest, aaron rogers... even...

AngloVike
01-13-2009, 03:11 PM
"kevoncox" wrote:


I would take Farve in a heart beat.

and if we did it would probably be my last heartbeat as well..... still if you want to guarantee selling out the Dome with the Favre crotch sniffers then just carry on.

Marrdro
01-13-2009, 04:07 PM
"bleedpurple" wrote:


"Marrdro" wrote:


"marstc09" wrote:


"Marrdro" wrote:


"marstc09" wrote:








2008 TD's/G:

Jackson: 1.64

Favre: 1.38

Frerotte: 1.14



2008 INT's/G:

Jackson: 0.36

Favre: 1.38

Frerotte: 1.43




Oh... SNAP

Statistical beeyatch slap!

Don't ya just love it...... ;D


Your not even comparing apples to apples. How many games has TJ played this year? Try again.

So are you saying we should only compare the last 5 games TJ played against the last 5 games Lord Dickhead played........

WOW.
Your to easy.
;D


Wrong. Maybe he should start a whole season before you compare him to a GOD that has had 273 consecutive starts. 5 games it not enough to make a judgment on if TJ is better than Favre, a first ballot hall of famer. Just like when Singer says 21 games is not enough to judge if TJ is going to be a starter. Stop reaching for something that is not there.

So now your are contending that a player comes into the league playing at his peak level and maintains that level all the way through his career without any improvment or degradation in skills over time.

:o

As to who is better right now, I would say that statistically (over the last 5 games) there is a clear winner and it isn't your boy..... :P(lots of sticking tongue out smilies ) :P

;D


barring him being healthy, i'll take favre over TJ for right now.... shoot, look at what collins, warner and garcia are doing and they are pretty much just as old as favre... so was testaverde....

I don't care what team they played for prior to being here, i just want good players on our team regardless of where they come from and if that's at the expense of the packers, all the better...

don't act like you wouldn't want Greg Jennings, or Donald Driver on our team.... or let's be honest, aaron rogers... even...

Ignore the fact that I have a deep burning sense of disdain for the man because of all the times he screwed us over for just one second.
My statement below is as a Football Fan and not a Vikings fan.

Brett (I used his name) isn't the QB all of you think he is.
Barring his season last year, he has continually declined and just can't be the gunslinger everyone still wants him to be.
Is he better than what we have?
I am not sure.
I would have to lean towards a no based on what he did last year.

Long story short, there is a reason why a GM faced the wrath of his fan base to let thier hero go, there is a reason a HC didn't want him on his team, there is a reason why that HC lost his job cause he said "I told you so" and there is a reason why the other teams in the league were not beating the GB Packers door down to get him.

He isn't what he used to be.

As to wanting EX Packer players on this team.
I can tolerate most of them if in fact they would make the team better.
In all seriousness, I do not think Brett would make this team better, in fact, I believe he would make it worse.

SamOchoCinco
01-13-2009, 04:10 PM
"Marrdro" wrote:


"bleedpurple" wrote:


"Marrdro" wrote:


"marstc09" wrote:


"Marrdro" wrote:










2008 TD's/G:

Jackson: 1.64

Favre: 1.38

Frerotte: 1.14



2008 INT's/G:

Jackson: 0.36

Favre: 1.38

Frerotte: 1.43




Oh... SNAP

Statistical beeyatch slap!

Don't ya just love it...... ;D


Your not even comparing apples to apples. How many games has TJ played this year? Try again.

So are you saying we should only compare the last 5 games TJ played against the last 5 games Lord Dickhead played........

WOW.
Your to easy.
;D


Wrong. Maybe he should start a whole season before you compare him to a GOD that has had 273 consecutive starts. 5 games it not enough to make a judgment on if TJ is better than Favre, a first ballot hall of famer. Just like when Singer says 21 games is not enough to judge if TJ is going to be a starter. Stop reaching for something that is not there.

So now your are contending that a player comes into the league playing at his peak level and maintains that level all the way through his career without any improvment or degradation in skills over time.
:o

As to who is better right now, I would say that statistically (over the last 5 games) there is a clear winner and it isn't your boy..... :P(lots of sticking tongue out smilies ) :P
;D


barring him being healthy, i'll take favre over TJ for right now.... shoot, look at what collins, warner and garcia are doing and they are pretty much just as old as favre... so was testaverde....

I don't care what team they played for prior to being here, i just want good players on our team regardless of where they come from and if that's at the expense of the packers, all the better...

don't act like you wouldn't want Greg Jennings, or Donald Driver on our team.... or let's be honest, aaron rogers... even...

Ignore the fact that I have a deep burning sense of disdain for the man because of all the times he screwed us over for just one second.
My statement below is as a Football Fan and not a Vikings fan.

Brett (I used his name) isn't the QB all of you think he is.
Barring his season last year, he has continually declined and just can't be the gunslinger everyone still wants him to be.
Is he better than what we have?
I am not sure.
I would have to lean towards a no based on what he did last year.

Long story short, there is a reason why a GM faced the wrath of his fan base to let thier hero go, there is a reason a HC didn't want him on his team, there is a reason why that HC lost his job cause he said "I told you so" and there is a reason why the other teams in the league were not beating the GB Packers door down to get him.

He isn't what he used to be.

As to wanting EX Packer players on this team.
I can tolerate most of them if in fact they would make the team better.
In all seriousness, I do not think Brett would make this team better, in fact, I believe he would make it worse.



the madden curse struck again

Marrdro
01-13-2009, 04:20 PM
"SamOchoCinco" wrote:


the madden curse struck again

LOL, could be, however, I would like to think it is just old age catching up to one of the leagues hero's.
Again, hard for the fans and in alot of cases, the hero, to realize that he isn't the same anymore.... :'(

i_bleed_purple
01-13-2009, 04:26 PM
"Marrdro" wrote:


"SamOchoCinco" wrote:


the madden curse struck again

LOL, could be, however, I would like to think it is just old age catching up to one of the leagues hero's.
Again, hard for the fans and in alot of cases, the hero, to realize that he isn't the same anymore.... :'(


to be fair, if you were just coming off statistically one of your best seasons ever, wouldn't you think you might have more left too?

marstc09
01-13-2009, 05:19 PM
"Marrdro" wrote:


"bleedpurple" wrote:


"Marrdro" wrote:


"marstc09" wrote:


"Marrdro" wrote:










2008 TD's/G:

Jackson: 1.64

Favre: 1.38

Frerotte: 1.14



2008 INT's/G:

Jackson: 0.36

Favre: 1.38

Frerotte: 1.43




Oh... SNAP

Statistical beeyatch slap!

Don't ya just love it...... ;D


Your not even comparing apples to apples. How many games has TJ played this year? Try again.

So are you saying we should only compare the last 5 games TJ played against the last 5 games Lord Dickhead played........

WOW.
Your to easy.
;D


Wrong. Maybe he should start a whole season before you compare him to a GOD that has had 273 consecutive starts. 5 games it not enough to make a judgment on if TJ is better than Favre, a first ballot hall of famer. Just like when Singer says 21 games is not enough to judge if TJ is going to be a starter. Stop reaching for something that is not there.

So now your are contending that a player comes into the league playing at his peak level and maintains that level all the way through his career without any improvment or degradation in skills over time.

:o

As to who is better right now, I would say that statistically (over the last 5 games) there is a clear winner and it isn't your boy..... :P(lots of sticking tongue out smilies ) :P

;D


barring him being healthy, i'll take favre over TJ for right now.... shoot, look at what collins, warner and garcia are doing and they are pretty much just as old as favre... so was testaverde....

I don't care what team they played for prior to being here, i just want good players on our team regardless of where they come from and if that's at the expense of the packers, all the better...

don't act like you wouldn't want Greg Jennings, or Donald Driver on our team.... or let's be honest, aaron rogers... even...

Ignore the fact that I have a deep burning sense of disdain for the man because of all the times he screwed us over for just one second.
My statement below is as a Football Fan and not a Vikings fan.

Brett (I used his name) isn't the QB all of you think he is.
Barring his season last year, he has continually declined and just can't be the gunslinger everyone still wants him to be.
Is he better than what we have?
I am not sure.
I would have to lean towards a no based on what he did last year.

Long story short, there is a reason why a GM faced the wrath of his fan base to let thier hero go, there is a reason a HC didn't want him on his team, there is a reason why that HC lost his job cause he said "I told you so" and there is a reason why the other teams in the league were not beating the GB Packers door down to get him.

He isn't what he used to be.

As to wanting EX Packer players on this team.
I can tolerate most of them if in fact they would make the team better.
In all seriousness, I do not think Brett would make this team better, in fact, I believe he would make it worse.



Ummm there were many teams including YOUR Minnesota Vikings pursuing him! No matter what you think Marrdro, if Favre wants to play, someone will take him. That includes the Vikings. He was injured this year and of course he will be on a decline. So is Warner, Collins, etc. They still have jobs as do many other older QBs. Try to fight it all you want but I would say there is a strong possibility he will be around next year. History should have taught you that.

C Mac D
01-13-2009, 05:23 PM
"marstc09" wrote:


Ummm there were many teams including YOUR Minnesota Vikings pursuing him! No matter what you think Marrdro, if Favre wants to play, someone will take him. That includes the Vikings. He was injured this year and of course he will be on a decline. So is Warner, Collins, etc. They still have jobs as do many other older QBs. Try to fight it all you want but I would say there is a strong possibility he will be around next year. History should have taught you that.


History should also teach you that Favre has been in the top 10 INT list every season for the past 5 seasons (#1 twice).

When was the last time he won a Super Bowl?



Money says you bring up the NFC Championship... which is a game he cost his team... with an INT... imagine that.

marstc09
01-13-2009, 05:24 PM
"C" wrote:


"marstc09" wrote:


Ummm there were many teams including YOUR Minnesota Vikings pursuing him! No matter what you think Marrdro, if Favre wants to play, someone will take him. That includes the Vikings. He was injured this year and of course he will be on a decline. So is Warner, Collins, etc. They still have jobs as do many other older QBs. Try to fight it all you want but I would say there is a strong possibility he will be around next year. History should have taught you that.


History should also teach you that Favre has been in the top 10 INT list every season for the past 5 seasons (#1 twice).

When was the last time he won a Super Bowl?



Money says you bring up the NFC Championship... which is a game he cost his team... with an INT... imagine that.


How many of those years was he in the playoffs?

jargomcfargo
01-13-2009, 05:25 PM
"C" wrote:


"marstc09" wrote:


Ummm there were many teams including YOUR Minnesota Vikings pursuing him! No matter what you think Marrdro, if Favre wants to play, someone will take him. That includes the Vikings. He was injured this year and of course he will be on a decline. So is Warner, Collins, etc. They still have jobs as do many other older QBs. Try to fight it all you want but I would say there is a strong possibility he will be around next year. History should have taught you that.


History should also teach you that Favre has been in the top 10 INT list every season for the past 5 seasons (#1 twice).

When was the last time he won a Super Bowl?



Money says you bring up the NFC Championship... which is a game he cost his team... with an INT... imagine that.And once again caved in to the cold.

C Mac D
01-13-2009, 05:27 PM
"marstc09" wrote:


"C" wrote:


"marstc09" wrote:


Ummm there were many teams including YOUR Minnesota Vikings pursuing him! No matter what you think Marrdro, if Favre wants to play, someone will take him. That includes the Vikings. He was injured this year and of course he will be on a decline. So is Warner, Collins, etc. They still have jobs as do many other older QBs. Try to fight it all you want but I would say there is a strong possibility he will be around next year. History should have taught you that.


History should also teach you that Favre has been in the top 10 INT list every season for the past 5 seasons (#1 twice).

When was the last time he won a Super Bowl?



Money says you bring up the NFC Championship... which is a game he cost his team... with an INT... imagine that.


How many of those years was he in the playoffs?


Tavaris Jackson/Gus Ferrotte combo made it to the playoffs too... not saying much.

NordicNed
01-13-2009, 05:28 PM
I'll just say this, even though it's not my first choice, I'de love to see Bret come here and play a couple of years.
He still has the mind and desire to contend and produce wins.
He's way better than anything we have right now, period.

C Mac D
01-13-2009, 05:32 PM
"NordicNed" wrote:


I'll just say this, even though it's not my first choice, I'de love to see Bret come here and play a couple of years.
He still has the mind and desire to contend and produce wins.
He's way better than anything we have right now, period.


I heard Michael Jordan say in an interview after he retired, "I can still beat all these guys in my mind, but my body can't"...

I think he can have all the desire he wants, but he needs to admit that he's not what he once was... and he's probably more of a hindrance as the season goes on and cold weather games start.


Can we, for once, go after a legitimate QB who isn't about to turn 40? Or is that just the culture the Vikings have created?

marstc09
01-13-2009, 05:47 PM
"C" wrote:


"marstc09" wrote:


"C" wrote:


"marstc09" wrote:


Ummm there were many teams including YOUR Minnesota Vikings pursuing him! No matter what you think Marrdro, if Favre wants to play, someone will take him. That includes the Vikings. He was injured this year and of course he will be on a decline. So is Warner, Collins, etc. They still have jobs as do many other older QBs. Try to fight it all you want but I would say there is a strong possibility he will be around next year. History should have taught you that.


History should also teach you that Favre has been in the top 10 INT list every season for the past 5 seasons (#1 twice).

When was the last time he won a Super Bowl?



Money says you bring up the NFC Championship... which is a game he cost his team... with an INT... imagine that.


How many of those years was he in the playoffs?


Tavaris Jackson/Gus Ferrotte combo made it to the playoffs too... not saying much.



That is because Favre was not in the division anymore.

22 Playoff Games
10x Pro Bowler
3x MVP
7x All Pro
Super Bowl Champion

I understand that he is not the same Brett Favre but really if you have read most of my posts you would understand what he would bring. TJ needs to sit a year under someone. Why not make it under a guy that knows how to win. Yes he throws INTs but not much more than we threw with Gus/TJ this year. He knows what it takes to make it to the big dance and no other QB available has his resume. If he still wants to play, why not here? I bet Chilly already made the call.

marstc09
01-13-2009, 05:50 PM
"C" wrote:


"NordicNed" wrote:


I'll just say this, even though it's not my first choice, I'de love to see Bret come here and play a couple of years.
He still has the mind and desire to contend and produce wins.
He's way better than anything we have right now, period.


I heard Michael Jordan say in an interview after he retired, "I can still beat all these guys in my mind, but my body can't"...

I think he can have all the desire he wants, but he needs to admit that he's not what he once was... and he's probably more of a hindrance as the season goes on and cold weather games start.


Can we, for once, go after a legitimate QB who isn't about to turn 40? Or is that just the culture the Vikings have created?


1. How many cold weather games did we play this year?

2. Please name a legitimate QB that realistically is available who fits your mold? I would like to hear!

Marrdro
01-14-2009, 11:46 AM
"marstc09" wrote:


"C" wrote:


"marstc09" wrote:


"C" wrote:


"marstc09" wrote:


Ummm there were many teams including YOUR Minnesota Vikings pursuing him! No matter what you think Marrdro, if Favre wants to play, someone will take him. That includes the Vikings. He was injured this year and of course he will be on a decline. So is Warner, Collins, etc. They still have jobs as do many other older QBs. Try to fight it all you want but I would say there is a strong possibility he will be around next year. History should have taught you that.


History should also teach you that Favre has been in the top 10 INT list every season for the past 5 seasons (#1 twice).

When was the last time he won a Super Bowl?



Money says you bring up the NFC Championship... which is a game he cost his team... with an INT... imagine that.


How many of those years was he in the playoffs?


Tavaris Jackson/Gus Ferrotte combo made it to the playoffs too... not saying much.



That is because Favre was not in the division anymore.

22 Playoff Games
10x Pro Bowler
3x MVP
7x All Pro
Super Bowl Champion

I understand that he is not the same Brett Favre but really if you have read most of my posts you would understand what he would bring. TJ needs to sit a year under someone. Why not make it under a guy that knows how to win. Yes he throws INTs but not much more than we threw with Gus/TJ this year. He knows what it takes to make it to the big dance and no other QB available has his resume. If he still wants to play, why not here? I bet Chilly already made the call.

So what happened last year and again this year.
::)
Did he just up and forget how to get to the big dance?

Comeon my friend.
He isn't what he used to be and even though you think alot of teams pursued him, truth be told, I believe we would find out that the Jets and maybe, just maybe, the Bucs were the only ones in the mix because of the very reason why he failed the Puckers and then the Jetts in thier efforts to get to the big dance.

C Mac D
01-14-2009, 11:54 AM
"marstc09" wrote:


2. Please name a legitimate QB that realistically is available who fits your mold? I would like to hear!


Well, I'd rather have another year with Jackson than one with Favre.

But if we had to go out and get someone, I think Carson Palmer or Matt Hasselbeck would be interesting.

ThorSPL
01-14-2009, 12:33 PM
"C" wrote:


"marstc09" wrote:


2. Please name a legitimate QB that realistically is available who fits your mold? I would like to hear!


Well, I'd rather have another year with Jackson than one with Favre.

But if we had to go out and get someone, I think Carson Palmer or Matt Hasselbeck would be interesting.


These two definitely COULD be.
But the question is.. ARE they available and at what price?

marstc09
01-14-2009, 01:12 PM
"Marrdro" wrote:


"marstc09" wrote:


"C" wrote:


"marstc09" wrote:


"C" wrote:




Ummm there were many teams including YOUR Minnesota Vikings pursuing him! No matter what you think Marrdro, if Favre wants to play, someone will take him. That includes the Vikings. He was injured this year and of course he will be on a decline. So is Warner, Collins, etc. They still have jobs as do many other older QBs. Try to fight it all you want but I would say there is a strong possibility he will be around next year. History should have taught you that.


History should also teach you that Favre has been in the top 10 INT list every season for the past 5 seasons (#1 twice).

When was the last time he won a Super Bowl?



Money says you bring up the NFC Championship... which is a game he cost his team... with an INT... imagine that.


How many of those years was he in the playoffs?


Tavaris Jackson/Gus Ferrotte combo made it to the playoffs too... not saying much.



That is because Favre was not in the division anymore.

22 Playoff Games
10x Pro Bowler
3x MVP
7x All Pro
Super Bowl Champion

I understand that he is not the same Brett Favre but really if you have read most of my posts you would understand what he would bring. TJ needs to sit a year under someone. Why not make it under a guy that knows how to win. Yes he throws INTs but not much more than we threw with Gus/TJ this year. He knows what it takes to make it to the big dance and no other QB available has his resume. If he still wants to play, why not here? I bet Chilly already made the call.

So what happened last year and again this year.
::)
Did he just up and forget how to get to the big dance?

Comeon my friend.
He isn't what he used to be and even though you think alot of teams pursued him, truth be told, I believe we would find out that the Jets and maybe, just maybe, the Bucs were the only ones in the mix because of the very reason why he failed the Puckers and then the Jetts in thier efforts to get to the big dance.


LMFAO! Did we get to the NFC Championship game last year? Didn't think so. This year he helped take a 4-12 team to 9-7. Don't give me that bullshit about did he forget how to get to the big dance. It does not matter if you think he is not what he use to be. Teams will understand that he still is one on the best to play the game. You don't lose the ability to make good decisions on the field. He has always thrown INTs. He will continue to throw them. That is what you get with Favre. That is not going to stop hiom from being a first ballot hall of famer and it will not stop a team from signing him next year.

C Mac D
01-14-2009, 01:17 PM
"marstc09" wrote:


LMFAO! Did we get to the NFC Championship game last year? Didn't think so. This year he helped take a 4-12 team to 9-7. Don't give me that bullshit about did he forget how to get to the big dance. It does not matter if you think he is not what he use to be. Teams will understand that he still is one on the best to play the game. You don't lose the ability to make good decisions on the field. He has always thrown INTs. He will continue to throw them. That is what you get with Favre. That is not going to stop hiom from being a first ballot hall of famer and it will not stop a team from signing him next year.


But his late-season performance will, though.

When Green Bay made it to the NFC Championship game last year, they had the 11th best D in the league... this season they had the 20th.

marstc09
01-14-2009, 01:19 PM
"C" wrote:


"marstc09" wrote:


2. Please name a legitimate QB that realistically is available who fits your mold? I would like to hear!


Well, I'd rather have another year with Jackson than one with Favre.

But if we had to go out and get someone, I think Carson Palmer or Matt Hasselbeck would be interesting.


I said realistic. I don't think these guys will be on the trading block. Look at the backups. They need something in place and both teams have nothing. Although Seneca Wallace did not do so bad this year. So I guess Hasselbeck could be an option but with a new coach coming in do you really think he would want to dump a proven QB. I don't. I think are only realistic options are trading for Anderson, picking up Carr or Leftwich in FA, and picking up Kitna or Favre if they are released.

C Mac D
01-14-2009, 01:22 PM
"marstc09" wrote:


"C" wrote:


"marstc09" wrote:


2. Please name a legitimate QB that realistically is available who fits your mold? I would like to hear!


Well, I'd rather have another year with Jackson than one with Favre.

But if we had to go out and get someone, I think Carson Palmer or Matt Hasselbeck would be interesting.


I said realistic. I don't think these guys will be on the trading block. Look at the backups. They need something in place and both teams have nothing. Although Seneca Wallace did not do so bad this year. So I guess Hasselbeck could be an option but with a new coach coming in do you really think he would want to dump a proven QB. I don't. I think are only realistic options are trading for Anderson, picking up Carr or Leftwich in FA, and picking up Kitna or Favre if they are released.


I'd take Anderson, but mostly for QB competition in the preseason.

I don't think Hasselbeck is completely out of the question though, I mean... if the coach wants to rebuild the team (and they may need a new RB also)... I could easily see them getting a 1st round for him.

marstc09
01-14-2009, 01:26 PM
"C" wrote:


"marstc09" wrote:


"C" wrote:


"marstc09" wrote:


2. Please name a legitimate QB that realistically is available who fits your mold? I would like to hear!


Well, I'd rather have another year with Jackson than one with Favre.

But if we had to go out and get someone, I think Carson Palmer or Matt Hasselbeck would be interesting.


I said realistic. I don't think these guys will be on the trading block. Look at the backups. They need something in place and both teams have nothing. Although Seneca Wallace did not do so bad this year. So I guess Hasselbeck could be an option but with a new coach coming in do you really think he would want to dump a proven QB. I don't. I think are only realistic options are trading for Anderson, picking up Carr or Leftwich in FA, and picking up Kitna or Favre if they are released.


I'd take Anderson, but mostly for QB competition in the preseason.

I don't think Hasselbeck is completely out of the question though, I mean... if the coach wants to rebuild the team (and they may need a new RB also)... I could easily see them getting a 1st round for him.




You would give up a 1st rounder for a guy going into his 11th year? I could see the Seahawks drafting a QB at the #4 slot and holding onto Hasselbeck until that guy is ready.

C Mac D
01-14-2009, 01:29 PM
"marstc09" wrote:


"C" wrote:


"marstc09" wrote:


"C" wrote:


"marstc09" wrote:


2. Please name a legitimate QB that realistically is available who fits your mold? I would like to hear!


Well, I'd rather have another year with Jackson than one with Favre.

But if we had to go out and get someone, I think Carson Palmer or Matt Hasselbeck would be interesting.


I said realistic. I don't think these guys will be on the trading block. Look at the backups. They need something in place and both teams have nothing. Although Seneca Wallace did not do so bad this year. So I guess Hasselbeck could be an option but with a new coach coming in do you really think he would want to dump a proven QB. I don't. I think are only realistic options are trading for Anderson, picking up Carr or Leftwich in FA, and picking up Kitna or Favre if they are released.


I'd take Anderson, but mostly for QB competition in the preseason.

I don't think Hasselbeck is completely out of the question though, I mean... if the coach wants to rebuild the team (and they may need a new RB also)... I could easily see them getting a 1st round for him.




You would give up a 1st rounder for a guy going into his 11th year? I could see the Seahawks drafting a QB at the #4 slot and holding onto Hasselbeck until that guy is ready.


I don't know if we'd give up a 1st rounder, I could also possibly see Chester Taylor being involved in a trade (but I don't want that at all... I want Taylor to stay).

But, apparently I'm not alone on thinking Hasselbeck is a good option (http://www.examiner.com/x-1483-Minnesota-Vikings-Examiner~y2009m1d14-The-Vikes-are-two-moves-away-from-a-powerhouse-offense)...

marstc09
01-14-2009, 03:20 PM
"C" wrote:


"marstc09" wrote:


"C" wrote:


"marstc09" wrote:


"C" wrote:




2. Please name a legitimate QB that realistically is available who fits your mold? I would like to hear!


Well, I'd rather have another year with Jackson than one with Favre.

But if we had to go out and get someone, I think Carson Palmer or Matt Hasselbeck would be interesting.


I said realistic. I don't think these guys will be on the trading block. Look at the backups. They need something in place and both teams have nothing. Although Seneca Wallace did not do so bad this year. So I guess Hasselbeck could be an option but with a new coach coming in do you really think he would want to dump a proven QB. I don't. I think are only realistic options are trading for Anderson, picking up Carr or Leftwich in FA, and picking up Kitna or Favre if they are released.


I'd take Anderson, but mostly for QB competition in the preseason.

I don't think Hasselbeck is completely out of the question though, I mean... if the coach wants to rebuild the team (and they may need a new RB also)... I could easily see them getting a 1st round for him.




You would give up a 1st rounder for a guy going into his 11th year? I could see the Seahawks drafting a QB at the #4 slot and holding onto Hasselbeck until that guy is ready.


I don't know if we'd give up a 1st rounder, I could also possibly see Chester Taylor being involved in a trade (but I don't want that at all... I want Taylor to stay).

But, apparently I'm not alone on thinking Hasselbeck is a good option (http://www.examiner.com/x-1483-Minnesota-Vikings-Examiner~y2009m1d14-The-Vikes-are-two-moves-away-from-a-powerhouse-offense)...




I never said Hasselbeck was not a good option. I just don't think the Seahawks will give him up. I would be very happy if we could somehow score him and T.J. Houshmanzadeh. Both will come at a high price.

COJOMAY
01-14-2009, 03:49 PM
Let's see, the Seahawks are #4 in the draft coming up. Seems to me they could pick up the QB of their dreams by using our #2 draft pick for Hasselbeck to even move up in the draft.

marstc09
01-14-2009, 04:05 PM
"COJOMAY" wrote:


Let's see, the Seahawks are #4 in the draft coming up. Seems to me they could pick up the QB of their dreams by using our #2 draft pick for Hasselbeck to even move up in the draft.


Why? Grab Crabtree and give Hasselbeck a real option. Crabtree is a beast. Next year the draft will be QB deep. Get one then. Besides Bradford or Stafford could easily fall to them. Why trade up?

nephilimstorm
01-14-2009, 04:09 PM
I think Stafford or even Dan Orlovsky is better than any QB we have to lead this offense!

marstc09
01-14-2009, 04:10 PM
"Nephilim" wrote:


I think Stafford or even Dan Orlovsky is better than any QB we have to lead this offense!


You mean the same guy that ran out of the endzone? LMFAO!

nephilimstorm
01-14-2009, 04:13 PM
LOL

COJOMAY
01-14-2009, 04:21 PM
"marstc09" wrote:


"COJOMAY" wrote:


Let's see, the Seahawks are #4 in the draft coming up. Seems to me they could pick up the QB of their dreams by using our #2 draft pick for Hasselbeck to even move up in the draft.


Why? Grab Crabtree and give Hasselbeck a real option. Crabtree is a beast. Next year the draft will be QB deep. Get one then. Besides Bradford or Stafford could easily fall to them. Why trade up?


The point I was trying to make is that Seattle has a realistic shot at drafting a top QB. We don't. Therefore they would may be more inclined to trade us Hasselback for a second round draft pick.

bleedpurple
01-14-2009, 04:26 PM
"Nephilim" wrote:


I think Stafford or even Dan Orlovsky is better than any QB we have to lead this offense!


i think stafford will be a bust.... atleast seeing him play at georgia makes me feel that way... he can't throw accurate for shit!!...

Dan Orlovsky is no more erratic than TJ...
and he's a year younger with less talent on offense... don't want him, but I'm just sayin....

marstc09
01-14-2009, 04:28 PM
"COJOMAY" wrote:


"marstc09" wrote:


"COJOMAY" wrote:


Let's see, the Seahawks are #4 in the draft coming up. Seems to me they could pick up the QB of their dreams by using our #2 draft pick for Hasselbeck to even move up in the draft.


Why? Grab Crabtree and give Hasselbeck a real option. Crabtree is a beast. Next year the draft will be QB deep. Get one then. Besides Bradford or Stafford could easily fall to them. Why trade up?


The point I was trying to make is that Seattle has a realistic shot at drafting a top QB. We don't. Therefore they would may be more inclined to trade us Hasselback for a second round draft pick.


Well now that Bradford is staying, there is only one decent QB left. I am sure the Lions what him.

Marrdro
01-15-2009, 03:00 PM
Probably deserves its own thread, however, it makes me happy to post it in here considering what he said about Lord Dickhead and his teamates had a say in this award............


Thomas Jones Earns Martin MVP, Byrd Awards

http://www.newyorkjets.com/news/articles/show/2764-thomas-jones-earns-martin-mvp-byrd-awards

My guess is that more than just the HC and TJ didn't want Lord Dickhead back next year.
Wonder if Lord Dickead is gonna be the TO of QB's....... ;D
;D
;D
;D

marstc09
01-15-2009, 03:05 PM
"Marrdro" wrote:


Probably deserves its own thread, however, it makes me happy to post it in here considering what he said about Lord Dickhead and his teamates had a say in this award............


Thomas Jones Earns Martin MVP, Byrd Awards

http://www.newyorkjets.com/news/articles/show/2764-thomas-jones-earns-martin-mvp-byrd-awards

My guess is that more than just the HC and TJ didn't want Lord Dickhead back next year.
Wonder if Lord Dickead is gonna be the TO of QB's....... ;D
;D
;D
;D


Good news for Chilly. I am sure he has Favres number on speed dial.

Marrdro
01-15-2009, 03:08 PM
"marstc09" wrote:


"Marrdro" wrote:


Probably deserves its own thread, however, it makes me happy to post it in here considering what he said about Lord Dickhead and his teamates had a say in this award............


Thomas Jones Earns Martin MVP, Byrd Awards

http://www.newyorkjets.com/news/articles/show/2764-thomas-jones-earns-martin-mvp-byrd-awards

My guess is that more than just the HC and TJ didn't want Lord Dickhead back next year.
Wonder if Lord Dickead is gonna be the TO of QB's....... ;D
;D
;D
;D


Good news for Chilly. I am sure he has Favres number on speed dial.

I had your reply almost perfect.
Instead of the "Speed Dial" I had "Is calling him right now".
;D

singersp
01-16-2009, 07:25 AM
Favre 2009;

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b21/singersp82759/Packers/9.jpg

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b21/singersp82759/Packers/14.jpg

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b21/singersp82759/Packers/15.jpg

marstc09
01-27-2009, 03:00 PM
PETER KING BELIEVES FAVRE WANTS TO BE A VIKING

http://www.profootballtalk.com/2009/01/26/peter-king-believes-favre-wants-to-be-a-viking/

;D

AngloVike
01-28-2009, 03:53 AM
"marstc09" wrote:


PETER KING BELIEVES FAVRE WANTS TO BE A VIKING

http://www.profootballtalk.com/2009/01/26/peter-king-believes-favre-wants-to-be-a-viking/

;D

So King reckons Favre has had enough of playing in the NFL then says he would like to play for the Vikes - way to go Peter - mind you don't get splinters in your butt sitting on the fence like that - clown

Some on here complained that the Vikes don't give out enough freebies at the game... if Bert ends up in Minny then the crotch sniffers can look forward to this handout at each game

http://www.nerdata.com/images/collection/Tissues.jpg

singersp
01-28-2009, 06:53 AM
"AngloVike" wrote:


"marstc09" wrote:


PETER KING BELIEVES FAVRE WANTS TO BE A VIKING

http://www.profootballtalk.com/2009/01/26/peter-king-believes-favre-wants-to-be-a-viking/

;D

So King reckons Favre has had enough of playing in the NFL then says he would like to play for the Vikes - way to go Peter - mind you don't get splinters in your butt sitting on the fence like that - clown

Some on here complained that the Vikes don't give out enough freebies at the game... if Bert ends up in Minny then the crotch sniffers can look forward to this handout at each game



???

http://www.shopatmoxie.com/mm5/graphics/00000001/bert400.jpg

:P

El Vikingo
01-28-2009, 06:55 AM
"singersp" wrote:


"AngloVike" wrote:


"marstc09" wrote:


PETER KING BELIEVES FAVRE WANTS TO BE A VIKING

http://www.profootballtalk.com/2009/01/26/peter-king-believes-favre-wants-to-be-a-viking/

;D

So King reckons Favre has had enough of playing in the NFL then says he would like to play for the Vikes - way to go Peter - mind you don't get splinters in your butt sitting on the fence like that - clown

Some on here complained that the Vikes don't give out enough freebies at the game... if Bert ends up in Minny then the crotch sniffers can look forward to this handout at each game



???

http://www.shopatmoxie.com/mm5/graphics/00000001/bert400.jpg

:P


Not too far from what we have now at Qb. ::)

singersp
01-28-2009, 06:56 AM
Brett Favre: Does He Still Want To Play for the Vikings? (http://bleacherreport.com/articles/115988-does-he-still-want-to-play-for-the-vikings)

by Michael Treece (Contributor)
January 26, 2009


After just one season in New York, it appears Brett Favre will be out as quickly as he came in.

As many of you remember, Favre went through a very long debate with Packers coach Mike McCarthy and owner Ted Thompson less than a year ago.....

singersp
01-28-2009, 06:58 AM
Daily Haze: Brett Favre to the Minnesota Vikings Is Back (http://bleacherreport.com/articles/116182-daily-haze-favre-to-the-vikings-is-back)

by Michael McNeil (Columnist)
January 27, 2009


While there is no word from the Favre camp—surprise, surprise—about the aged quarterbacks plan for next season, speculation follows Favre like a lost puppy....

El Vikingo
01-28-2009, 07:00 AM
Naahh singer,the Ravens won´t trade him.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_PLc6HlFNXUs/R7Op0JJENYI/AAAAAAAAACE/cly5mvrAff8/s400/bert.jpg

http://www.emqb.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/joe-flacco.jpg

marstc09
01-28-2009, 09:50 AM
Wait for it....wait for it

http://www.httours.com/FAVRE_VIKING.jpg

El Vikingo
01-28-2009, 09:53 AM
"marstc09" wrote:


Wait for it....wait for it

http://www.httours.com/FAVRE_VIKING.jpg


wow,nice photoshop

Ltrey33
01-28-2009, 10:01 AM
"singersp" wrote:


Brett Favre: Does He Still Want To Play for the Vikings? (http://bleacherreport.com/articles/115988-does-he-still-want-to-play-for-the-vikings)

by Michael Treece (Contributor)
January 26, 2009


After just one season in New York, it appears Brett Favre will be out as quickly as he came in.

As many of you remember, Favre went through a very long debate with Packers coach Mike McCarthy and owner Ted Thompson less than a year ago.....



What about the poison pill? Did that only apply to last offseason? Or are they counting on a Jets release?

Or is Peter King full of shit?

marstc09
01-28-2009, 10:26 AM
"Ltrey" wrote:


"singersp" wrote:


Brett Favre: Does He Still Want To Play for the Vikings? (http://bleacherreport.com/articles/115988-does-he-still-want-to-play-for-the-vikings)

by Michael Treece (Contributor)
January 26, 2009


After just one season in New York, it appears Brett Favre will be out as quickly as he came in.

As many of you remember, Favre went through a very long debate with Packers coach Mike McCarthy and owner Ted Thompson less than a year ago.....



What about the poison pill? Did that only apply to last offseason? Or are they counting on a Jets release?

Or is Peter King full of shit?


I have no clue if that only applied to last year. We will find out soon. I am sure more stories will come out.

marstc09
01-28-2009, 10:37 AM
Owner Woody Johnson says Brett Favre must participate in the offseason program to be a Jet in 2009.

IMO if he says no the Jets will release him to avoid drama.

http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/jets/2009/01/even-at-the-super-bowl-jets-ne.html


The players, led by Kerry Rhodes, made it clear at the end of the season that they'd accept Favre back but only if he worked out with them in the offseason.

Marrdro is going to love this one!
;D

seaniemck7
01-28-2009, 11:32 AM
"marstc09" wrote:


"Ltrey" wrote:


"singersp" wrote:


Brett Favre: Does He Still Want To Play for the Vikings? (http://bleacherreport.com/articles/115988-does-he-still-want-to-play-for-the-vikings)

by Michael Treece (Contributor)
January 26, 2009


After just one season in New York, it appears Brett Favre will be out as quickly as he came in.

As many of you remember, Favre went through a very long debate with Packers coach Mike McCarthy and owner Ted Thompson less than a year ago.....



What about the poison pill? Did that only apply to last offseason? Or are they counting on a Jets release?

Or is Peter King full of pooh?


I have no clue if that only applied to last year. We will find out soon. I am sure more stories will come out.


The PPill that said they get all kinds of picks if they trade favre?
If that is what you are talking about, its only enforceable if the Jets TRADE favre.
if they release him out right, they only get
picks based off how the jets performed.

marstc09
01-28-2009, 11:42 AM
"seaniemck7" wrote:


"marstc09" wrote:


"Ltrey" wrote:


"singersp" wrote:


Brett Favre: Does He Still Want To Play for the Vikings? (http://bleacherreport.com/articles/115988-does-he-still-want-to-play-for-the-vikings)

by Michael Treece (Contributor)
January 26, 2009


After just one season in New York, it appears Brett Favre will be out as quickly as he came in.

As many of you remember, Favre went through a very long debate with Packers coach Mike McCarthy and owner Ted Thompson less than a year ago.....



What about the poison pill? Did that only apply to last offseason? Or are they counting on a Jets release?

Or is Peter King full of pooh?


I have no clue if that only applied to last year. We will find out soon. I am sure more stories will come out.


The PPill that said they get all kinds of picks if they trade favre?
If that is what you are talking about, its only enforceable if the Jets TRADE favre.
if they release him out right, they only get
picks based off how the jets performed.




What we are trying to find out is if that was only enforceable last year. Can they trade him this year?

SamOchoCinco
01-28-2009, 12:49 PM
"marstc09" wrote:


Wait for it....wait for it

http://www.httours.com/FAVRE_VIKING.jpg


that kind of looks like
brad johnson.

but hahaha that looks pretty weird also

nephilimstorm
01-28-2009, 01:13 PM
I do think TJACK will be starting next year unfortunately...

mountainviking
01-28-2009, 01:13 PM
Oh just retire already.
The shoulder is shot and he don't want surgery?????
The Jets players got good reasons for not loving him, and likely, better WRs too.
I suppose he can still dink and dunk, but the zone blitz the enemy uses for AP is pretty effective against that too!

marstc09
01-31-2009, 09:06 PM
Analysis: Favre in Minnesota Still Plausible

I guarantee you that the thought of playing Green Bay twice each year could be a determining factor in Favre playing an 18th NFL season.

The thought of anyone besides Tavaris Jackson quarterbacking the Vikings could be a determining factor in Brad Childress and Favre's old assistant coach, Darrell Bevell, calling Brett and begging him, despite his late-season slump, to return.

http://www.todaystmj4.com/sports/local/38003579.html

SamOchoCinco
01-31-2009, 09:14 PM
i dont want farve on our team...

but it would be funny to watch brett go against the packers on our side
;)

marstc09
01-31-2009, 09:16 PM
Minnesota Vikings a Likely Possibility for Brett Favre in '09?


Brett Favre is due to make $13 million this year, which takes up a substantial amount of the New York Jets' salary cap. If Favre decides to return to the Jets, there is a good chance the team will either have to cut some players or restructure contracts in order to get under the cap.


The Jets have scheduled a meeting with Brett Favre next week to see if he wants to return to New York in 2009 or if the team is interested in bringing him back. Favre has been rumored to still be interested in playing for the Vikings.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/117423-will-he-or-wont-he-vikings-a-likely-possibility-for-09

singersp
01-31-2009, 09:28 PM
"marstc09" wrote:


Minnesota Vikings a Likely Possibility for Brett Favre in '09?


Brett Favre is due to make $13 million this year, which takes up a substantial amount of the New York Jets' salary cap. If Favre decides to return to the Jets, there is a good chance the team will either have to cut some players or restructure contracts in order to get under the cap.


The Jets have scheduled a meeting with Brett Favre next week to see if he wants to return to New York in 2009 or if the team is interested in bringing him back. Favre has been rumored to still be interested in playing for the Vikings.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/117423-will-he-or-wont-he-vikings-a-likely-possibility-for-09


If he doesn't have the surgery required to fix his shoulder/arm that he has already refused to have, what team would want him?

IMO, he'll wait until after the SB when all the hoopla dies down & then bring it back up so all the media attention can once again surround him. Be it the surgery, retiring or playing again for another team.

That should be good for at least a 3-4 month milking of the media.

Rumors are exactly that.........rumors. If a team has a need & a player is available or if there's a connection between a player & a coach on another team, the rumors fly, that said player, will be donning that teams jersey.

I recall in 2006 when many fans & sports writers were almost certain that Edgerrin James was going to sign with the Vikings.

marstc09
01-31-2009, 09:43 PM
"singersp" wrote:


"marstc09" wrote:


Minnesota Vikings a Likely Possibility for Brett Favre in '09?


Brett Favre is due to make $13 million this year, which takes up a substantial amount of the New York Jets' salary cap. If Favre decides to return to the Jets, there is a good chance the team will either have to cut some players or restructure contracts in order to get under the cap.


The Jets have scheduled a meeting with Brett Favre next week to see if he wants to return to New York in 2009 or if the team is interested in bringing him back. Favre has been rumored to still be interested in playing for the Vikings.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/117423-will-he-or-wont-he-vikings-a-likely-possibility-for-09


If he doesn't have the surgery required to fix his shoulder/arm that he has already refused to have, what team would want him?

IMO, he'll wait until after the SB when all the hoopla dies down & then bring it back up so all the media attention can once again surround him. Be it the surgery, retiring or playing again for another team.

That should be good for at least a 3-4 month milking of the media.

Rumors are exactly that.........rumors. If a team has a need & a player is available or if there's a connection between a player & a coach on another team, the rumors fly, that said player, will be donning that teams jersey.

I recall in 2006 when many fans & sports writers were almost certain that Edgerrin James was going to sign with the Vikings.



Brett finally getting a chance to play for the Minnesota Vikings, a team that he admittedly wanted to play for last year. Doesn't sound so far fetched does it?

Not really a rumor.

marstc09
01-31-2009, 09:55 PM
Deja Vu For Vikings Country?

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/117790-deja-vu-for-vikings-country


The Jets would need to put Favre on waivers before February 27 if they don't want to take a salary cap hit.


Recently, Peter King of Sports Illustrated and a good friend of Favre, has said that Favre is likely to not return to football next season unless he is where he wants to be. King said that his gut feeling was Favre wanted to be in Minnesota.


Favre certainly would have no problem with the offense; Bevell was the Packers Quarterback Coach from 2003-2005 until Childress hired him as the Vikings Offensive Coordinator for the 2006 season.

Rumors? Not likely. Marrdros nightmare could become reality soon.
8)

singersp
01-31-2009, 10:47 PM
"marstc09" wrote:


"singersp" wrote:


"marstc09" wrote:


Minnesota Vikings a Likely Possibility for Brett Favre in '09?


Brett Favre is due to make $13 million this year, which takes up a substantial amount of the New York Jets' salary cap. If Favre decides to return to the Jets, there is a good chance the team will either have to cut some players or restructure contracts in order to get under the cap.


The Jets have scheduled a meeting with Brett Favre next week to see if he wants to return to New York in 2009 or if the team is interested in bringing him back. Favre has been rumored to still be interested in playing for the Vikings.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/117423-will-he-or-wont-he-vikings-a-likely-possibility-for-09


If he doesn't have the surgery required to fix his shoulder/arm that he has already refused to have, what team would want him?

IMO, he'll wait until after the SB when all the hoopla dies down & then bring it back up so all the media attention can once again surround him. Be it the surgery, retiring or playing again for another team.

That should be good for at least a 3-4 month milking of the media.

Rumors are exactly that.........rumors. If a team has a need & a player is available or if there's a connection between a player & a coach on another team, the rumors fly, that said player, will be donning that teams jersey.

I recall in 2006 when many fans & sports writers were almost certain that Edgerrin James was going to sign with the Vikings.



Brett finally getting a chance to play for the Minnesota Vikings, a team that he admittedly wanted to play for last year. Doesn't sound so far fetched does it?

Not really a rumor.


That was last year.

The fact that he refuses to have the surgery required to allow him to play at an acceptable level tells me that he may hang it up.

If he doesn't have the surgery a team would be foolish to sign him. What good is a QB who can't throw?

From your own post.....


Favre has been rumored to still be interested in playing for the Vikings.

VikingsTw
01-31-2009, 11:20 PM
Here is some very intristing numbers to look over as the Jets deal with there cap issue.

http://www.nyjetscap.com/salary09.html

Currently the Jets are 14.5 Million over the cap right now as we speak. They must be below the cap number by Feb 27th. Brett Farve has a 13 Million Dollar charge against that cap. If Brett Farve is released the "Dead Money If Cut" is exactly 0 dollars, so essential they take no cap hit unlike the way they did with Chad Pennington, 3 Million. So if the Jets release Favre the Cap Saving is a full 13 Million Dollars and no Dead Money.

Looks to me like his chances of seeing Free Agency are better then ever. He would have to agree with a contract renogotiation in order to help with the cap situation OR to keep Favre the Jets are likely to have to cut Mass Players with huge Dead Money. With Favre there is no Dead Money, Releasing Favre is the Jets best opportunity for now and for the future of the Cap situation.

KrackerJack
01-31-2009, 11:40 PM
Even if he ends up being released, I still don't think the Vikings should sign him.
Idc if he's a couple years removed from 13-3, he looked bad late this year IMO, and surgerey or not, I think that shoulder will be a problem for him.
Favre is not going to get any better, that's certain, and I don't think he'll stay the same either.
IMO, he'll get worse, his play was crap at the end of the year, and I doubt it was all his shoulder.


Let's say he signs elsewhere, he's another year older, and his shoulder has been causing problems, will he get better? or even stay as good as he was with the Jets? I doubt it, I think it's time for him to retire for good, as hard as that is to imagine.
I honestly think he has no good football left in him, I'd definately take Tjack or him going into 2009.

singersp
02-01-2009, 12:19 AM
"VikingsTw" wrote:


Here is some very intristing numbers to look over as the Jets deal with there cap issue.

http://www.nyjetscap.com/salary09.html

Currently the Jets are 14.5 Million over the cap right now as we speak. They must be below the cap number by Feb 27th. Brett Farve has a 13 Million Dollar charge against that cap. If Brett Farve is released the "Dead Money If Cut" is exactly 0 dollars, so essential they take no cap hit unlike the way they did with Chad Pennington, 3 Million. So if the Jets release Favre the Cap Saving is a full 13 Million Dollars and no Dead Money.


I'm curious as to how that happens. How does a team suddenly become $14.5 mil over the cap? I thought teams weren't allowed to operate over the cap.

Were they $14.5 mil over during the season or are these figures based on what they will pay their current roster of players in 2009 in salaries & bonuses if nothing changes on their roster?

VikingsTw
02-01-2009, 01:48 AM
"singersp" wrote:


"VikingsTw" wrote:


Here is some very intristing numbers to look over as the Jets deal with there cap issue.

http://www.nyjetscap.com/salary09.html

Currently the Jets are 14.5 Million over the cap right now as we speak. They must be below the cap number by Feb 27th. Brett Farve has a 13 Million Dollar charge against that cap. If Brett Farve is released the "Dead Money If Cut" is exactly 0 dollars, so essential they take no cap hit unlike the way they did with Chad Pennington, 3 Million. So if the Jets release Favre the Cap Saving is a full 13 Million Dollars and no Dead Money.


I'm curious as to how that happens. How does a team suddenly become $14.5 mil over the cap? I thought teams weren't allowed to operate over the cap.

Were they $14.5 mil over during the season or are these figures based on what they will pay their current roster of players in 2009 in salaries & bonuses if nothing changes on their roster?


Well for one thing the Jets are allways in cap hell it seems. I think the adjusting or backloading of contracts can make these numbers sky rocket. Also the Dead Money to guys like Chad Pennington could effect this. I'm no expert on salary cap by any means but teams are always making cuts to get below the cap numbers by the deadline.

gregair13
02-01-2009, 02:05 AM
I'd still rather have t-jack

ejmat
02-01-2009, 10:34 AM
"singersp" wrote:


"marstc09" wrote:


"singersp" wrote:


"marstc09" wrote:


Minnesota Vikings a Likely Possibility for Brett Favre in '09?


Brett Favre is due to make $13 million this year, which takes up a substantial amount of the New York Jets' salary cap. If Favre decides to return to the Jets, there is a good chance the team will either have to cut some players or restructure contracts in order to get under the cap.


The Jets have scheduled a meeting with Brett Favre next week to see if he wants to return to New York in 2009 or if the team is interested in bringing him back. Favre has been rumored to still be interested in playing for the Vikings.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/117423-will-he-or-wont-he-vikings-a-likely-possibility-for-09


If he doesn't have the surgery required to fix his shoulder/arm that he has already refused to have, what team would want him?

IMO, he'll wait until after the SB when all the hoopla dies down & then bring it back up so all the media attention can once again surround him. Be it the surgery, retiring or playing again for another team.

That should be good for at least a 3-4 month milking of the media.

Rumors are exactly that.........rumors. If a team has a need & a player is available or if there's a connection between a player & a coach on another team, the rumors fly, that said player, will be donning that teams jersey.

I recall in 2006 when many fans & sports writers were almost certain that Edgerrin James was going to sign with the Vikings.



Brett finally getting a chance to play for the Minnesota Vikings, a team that he admittedly wanted to play for last year. Doesn't sound so far fetched does it?

Not really a rumor.


That was last year.

The fact that he refuses to have the surgery required to allow him to play at an acceptable level tells me that he may hang it up.

If he doesn't have the surgery a team would be foolish to sign him. What good is a QB who can't throw?

From your own post.....


Favre has been rumored to still be interested in playing for the Vikings.


This is a rumor.
Nothing more at this point.
If it were more than a rumor than there would be tampering.
Whether it happens or not it is a rumor at this time.
I haven't heard anything except for Peter King's attempt to stir up controversy.

PurpleTide
02-01-2009, 11:30 AM
Let it go, it will never happen just say NO to Farve as a Viking. That will never happen... please lord don't let it happen.... :-X

marstc09
02-01-2009, 12:47 PM
"singersp" wrote:


"marstc09" wrote:


"singersp" wrote:


"marstc09" wrote:


Minnesota Vikings a Likely Possibility for Brett Favre in '09?


Brett Favre is due to make $13 million this year, which takes up a substantial amount of the New York Jets' salary cap. If Favre decides to return to the Jets, there is a good chance the team will either have to cut some players or restructure contracts in order to get under the cap.


The Jets have scheduled a meeting with Brett Favre next week to see if he wants to return to New York in 2009 or if the team is interested in bringing him back. Favre has been rumored to still be interested in playing for the Vikings.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/117423-will-he-or-wont-he-vikings-a-likely-possibility-for-09


If he doesn't have the surgery required to fix his shoulder/arm that he has already refused to have, what team would want him?

IMO, he'll wait until after the SB when all the hoopla dies down & then bring it back up so all the media attention can once again surround him. Be it the surgery, retiring or playing again for another team.

That should be good for at least a 3-4 month milking of the media.

Rumors are exactly that.........rumors. If a team has a need & a player is available or if there's a connection between a player & a coach on another team, the rumors fly, that said player, will be donning that teams jersey.

I recall in 2006 when many fans & sports writers were almost certain that Edgerrin James was going to sign with the Vikings.



Brett finally getting a chance to play for the Minnesota Vikings, a team that he admittedly wanted to play for last year. Doesn't sound so far fetched does it?

Not really a rumor.


That was last year.

The fact that he refuses to have the surgery required to allow him to play at an acceptable level tells me that he may hang it up.

If he doesn't have the surgery a team would be foolish to sign him. What good is a QB who can't throw?

From your own post.....


Favre has been rumored to still be interested in playing for the Vikings.


Favre said his shoulder is fine, thats why.

marstc09
02-01-2009, 01:00 PM
"Å nowbowler" wrote:


Even if he ends up being released, I still don't think the Vikings should sign him.
Idc if he's a couple years removed from 13-3, he looked bad late this year IMO, and surgerey or not, I think that shoulder will be a problem for him.
Favre is not going to get any better, that's certain, and I don't think he'll stay the same either.
IMO, he'll get worse, his play was crap at the end of the year, and I doubt it was all his shoulder.


Let's say he signs elsewhere, he's another year older, and his shoulder has been causing problems, will he get better? or even stay as good as he was with the Jets? I doubt it, I think it's time for him to retire for good, as hard as that is to imagine.
I honestly think he has no good football left in him, I'd definately take Tjack or him going into 2009.





Looked bad? Hardly. He still made the Pro Bowl and is one of the best QBs in the league. Yes he is not the same but he is a better option than TJ or Booty. I like Carr, Leftwich, and Kitna but they are no Favre. He took a 4-12 team to 9-7. Can you imagine what this team could do with him and a RT Tauscher. A team that went 10-6 and made the playoffs just got that much better. Yes he throws INTs but he has also worked with Bevell and is familiar with what he does. He would listen to him unlike anything he had in NY and even GB. Favre is very good friends with him. Favre can manage the game better than anyone in the league and theat is what we need. To say he has no football left in him is laughable. You can't take talent away from someone. Only his body can slow down. If Kurt Warner has a chance to win a Super Bowl, you better believe your purple loving ass that Favre can.

Look at it this way or should I say through Wilf and Chillys eyes. He is entering his 4th year of a 5 year contract. This is a crucial year for him. Wilf needs the support of the people. What best way to do that? Put a championsip team together. It only makes sense. Plus Favre will sell tickets. Most of you are looking at this from a fan point of view. Some hate Favre. I did when he was a PACKER. Business makes decisions, not fans. Thank the lord.

marstc09
02-01-2009, 01:54 PM
Jets need to move on past Brett Favre, SI.com's Peter King writes

http://brett-favre-news.newslib.com/story/2132-3233380/


Favre will never attend a team's full offseason program. Those programs were ones he skipped for 16 springs and summers in Green Bay -- and you're kidding yourself if you think he's going to move back to New Jersey for 12 to 16 weeks in March.

marstc09
02-01-2009, 01:57 PM
Brett Favre Answer Coming Next Week?


Since the Jets are over the cap as long as Favre's contract is on the books, they'll need to know if they are releasing him or other players to get under the cap and/or in position to acquire other players.

http://brett-favre-news.newslib.com/story/2132-3233379/

AngloVike
02-01-2009, 02:52 PM
"marstc09" wrote:



Rumors? Not likely. Marrdros nightmare could become reality soon.
8)


you make Marrdro sound like the bad boy for not falling at Lord Dickhead's ( copyright Marrdor ) feet. Face
it there are more Vikings fans that don't want that media whore here than do want him here. We might all feel that the QB position is not our best position but the solution is a long term one and I don't want to see Minny added to the list of farewell teams as Favre is slowly dragged kicking and screaming from the limelight.

Mikecarter81
02-01-2009, 02:55 PM
Hey, I'm all for it!
If the guy can still play and is an upgrade at QB, why not invite him.

Mike

marstc09
02-01-2009, 05:12 PM
"AngloVike" wrote:


"marstc09" wrote:



Rumors? Not likely. Marrdros nightmare could become reality soon.
8)


you make Marrdro sound like the bad boy for not falling at Lord Dickhead's ( copyright Marrdor ) feet. Face
it there are more Vikings fans that don't want that media whore here than do want him here. We might all feel that the QB position is not our best position but the solution is a long term one and I don't want to see Minny added to the list of farewell teams as Favre is slowly dragged kicking and screaming from the limelight.


Good thing fans don't make decisions on this team.

marstc09
02-01-2009, 05:46 PM
Jets To Release Favre? Will He Play For The Purple?


According to Pro Football Talk, The New York Jets may decide whether or not to cut Brett Favre by as early as next week.

http://www.vikingvigil.com/2009/02/jets-to-release-favre-will-he-play-for-the-purple/

nephilimstorm
02-01-2009, 05:49 PM
hmm awesome...maybe he'll wind up here at 38

KrackerJack
02-01-2009, 11:53 PM
"marstc09" wrote:


"Å nowbowler" wrote:


Even if he ends up being released, I still don't think the Vikings should sign him.
Idc if he's a couple years removed from 13-3, he looked bad late this year IMO, and surgerey or not, I think that shoulder will be a problem for him.
Favre is not going to get any better, that's certain, and I don't think he'll stay the same either.
IMO, he'll get worse, his play was crap at the end of the year, and I doubt it was all his shoulder.


Let's say he signs elsewhere, he's another year older, and his shoulder has been causing problems, will he get better? or even stay as good as he was with the Jets? I doubt it, I think it's time for him to retire for good, as hard as that is to imagine.
I honestly think he has no good football left in him, I'd definately take Tjack or him going into 2009.





Looked bad? Hardly. He still made the Pro Bowl and is one of the best QBs in the league. Yes he is not the same but he is a better option than TJ or Booty. I like Carr, Leftwich, and Kitna but they are no Favre. He took a 4-12 team to 9-7. Can you imagine what this team could do with him and a RT Tauscher. A team that went 10-6 and made the playoffs just got that much better. Yes he throws INTs but he has also worked with Bevell and is familiar with what he does. He would listen to him unlike anything he had in NY and even GB. Favre is very good friends with him. Favre can manage the game better than anyone in the league and theat is what we need. To say he has no football left in him is laughable. You can't take talent away from someone. Only his body can slow down. If Kurt Warner has a chance to win a Super Bowl, you better believe your purple loving jiggly butt that Favre can.

Look at it this way or should I say through Wilf and Chillys eyes. He is entering his 4th year of a 5 year contract. This is a crucial year for him. Wilf needs the support of the people. What best way to do that? Put a championsip team together. It only makes sense. Plus Favre will sell tickets. Most of you are looking at this from a fan point of view. Some hate Favre. I did when he was a PACKER. Business makes decisions, not fans. Thank the lord.


I said he looked bad alte in the season, and I believe, and I admittedly may be wrong here, but the pro bowl voting starts mid season, does it not?
He didn't take that team to 9-7 alone, the Jets made other aquisitions in the offseason, and even if those aren't that big of a deal, all it means is Favre played better than the QBs in the previous years for the Jets, which I agree with.
I'm not taking away talent from him, but I do believe there is a point where it starts to fade because of age, but I'm not saying age alone is taking it away, but his shoulder too.
I knew Warner would be brought up, and of course there's a chance to go to and win the super bowl, every qb has a chance to go, but just because Kurt did, doesn't mean Favre will.
I guess the same thing could be said for TJack, but the difference, to me, is that we shouldn't pick up a guy because 'he has a chance', every guy does, I don't think we should give up on a guy we already have though.

I don't think bringing in Favre would make a champion cailiber team, at least not in this point in his career, and tickets are sold from winning games, which I'm not convinced he's not going to be able to do as much as he used to.
I don't have Favre, and the reason I don't want him here is not because he was a Packer, it's because I don't think he's got much left.
I've never hated Favre, he was a great player who had to win games for his team- a lot of which, we against us, and I can't hate a guy for that, he just did his job.

marstc09
02-02-2009, 09:39 AM
"Å nowbowler" wrote:


"marstc09" wrote:


"Å nowbowler" wrote:


Even if he ends up being released, I still don't think the Vikings should sign him.
Idc if he's a couple years removed from 13-3, he looked bad late this year IMO, and surgerey or not, I think that shoulder will be a problem for him.
Favre is not going to get any better, that's certain, and I don't think he'll stay the same either.
IMO, he'll get worse, his play was crap at the end of the year, and I doubt it was all his shoulder.


Let's say he signs elsewhere, he's another year older, and his shoulder has been causing problems, will he get better? or even stay as good as he was with the Jets? I doubt it, I think it's time for him to retire for good, as hard as that is to imagine.
I honestly think he has no good football left in him, I'd definately take Tjack or him going into 2009.





Looked bad? Hardly. He still made the Pro Bowl and is one of the best QBs in the league. Yes he is not the same but he is a better option than TJ or Booty. I like Carr, Leftwich, and Kitna but they are no Favre. He took a 4-12 team to 9-7. Can you imagine what this team could do with him and a RT Tauscher. A team that went 10-6 and made the playoffs just got that much better. Yes he throws INTs but he has also worked with Bevell and is familiar with what he does. He would listen to him unlike anything he had in NY and even GB. Favre is very good friends with him. Favre can manage the game better than anyone in the league and theat is what we need. To say he has no football left in him is laughable. You can't take talent away from someone. Only his body can slow down. If Kurt Warner has a chance to win a Super Bowl, you better believe your purple loving jiggly butt that Favre can.

Look at it this way or should I say through Wilf and Chillys eyes. He is entering his 4th year of a 5 year contract. This is a crucial year for him. Wilf needs the support of the people. What best way to do that? Put a championsip team together. It only makes sense. Plus Favre will sell tickets. Most of you are looking at this from a fan point of view. Some hate Favre. I did when he was a PACKER. Business makes decisions, not fans. Thank the lord.


I said he looked bad alte in the season, and I believe, and I admittedly may be wrong here, but the pro bowl voting starts mid season, does it not?
He didn't take that team to 9-7 alone, the Jets made other aquisitions in the offseason, and even if those aren't that big of a deal, all it means is Favre played better than the QBs in the previous years for the Jets, which I agree with.
I'm not taking away talent from him, but I do believe there is a point where it starts to fade because of age, but I'm not saying age alone is taking it away, but his shoulder too.
I knew Warner would be brought up, and of course there's a chance to go to and win the super bowl, every qb has a chance to go, but just because Kurt did, doesn't mean Favre will.
I guess the same thing could be said for TJack, but the difference, to me, is that we shouldn't pick up a guy because 'he has a chance', every guy does, I don't think we should give up on a guy we already have though.

I don't think bringing in Favre would make a champion cailiber team, at least not in this point in his career, and tickets are sold from winning games, which I'm not convinced he's not going to be able to do as much as he used to.
I don't have Favre, and the reason I don't want him here is not because he was a Packer, it's because I don't think he's got much left.
I've never hated Favre, he was a great player who had to win games for his team- a lot of which, we against us, and I can't hate a guy for that, he just did his job.


You are right every QB has a chance to be in the big one. TJ failed at that. He had a home playoff game and could not get it done. We have all that talent on the team. Much more than the Jets IMO. Favre knows how to get the most out of players.

You obviously are not from this area. Favre will sell tickets. You are absolutely wrong saying he won't.

Ltrey33
02-02-2009, 09:41 AM
Anyone else have a hard time trusting PFT?

Prophet
02-02-2009, 09:44 AM
"Ltrey" wrote:


Anyone else have a hard time trusting PFT?


No.
They are exactly who they say they are, a rumor mill.
They sometimes hit the nail on the head and are sometimes off.
They have some good sources.

I distrust the media hacks that are supposedly doing journalism and producing garbage more that I distrust Florio who calls a spade a spade.

marstc09
02-02-2009, 09:50 AM
"Prophet" wrote:


"Ltrey" wrote:


Anyone else have a hard time trusting PFT?


No.
They are exactly who they say they are, a rumor mill.
They sometimes hit the nail on the head and are sometimes off.
They have some good sources.

I distrust the media hacks that are supposedly doing journalism and producing garbage more that I distrust Florio who calls a spade a spade.


+1

NordicNed
02-02-2009, 10:02 AM
Rumor or not, we would be blessed as a team to get a chance to sign the talent of Brett Farve.
Do I love him? NO !
Do I think he could take us to a Super Bowl and win it all with our team, YES.
Thats all I want to know, who can and can't get us to the big show and win it all.
I know Brett can and would, if given the chance and a few more key pick-ups to add the the whole team picture.



I'de welcome
him any day....
;D

i_bleed_purple
02-02-2009, 10:06 AM
"NordicNed" wrote:


Rumor or not, we would be blessed as a team to get a chance to sign the talent of Brett Farve.
Do I love him? NO !
Do I think he could take us to a Super Bowl and win it all with our team, YES.
Thats all I want to know, who can and can't get us to the big show and win it all.
I know Brett can and would, if given the chance and a few more key pick-ups to add the the whole team picture.




I'de welcome
him any day....

;D


Look what kurt warner did for the cardinals... they were one terrible call and a play away from winning the superbowl.

marstc09
02-02-2009, 10:13 AM
Jets deny report GM gave Favre 'months' to decide

http://www.newsday.com/sports/ny-spjets0202,0,4512452.story


A Jets spokesman refuted the report, saying the team hopes to have an indication from Favre by the time the NFL combine begins Feb. 18

Prophet
02-02-2009, 10:15 AM
"i_bleed_purple" wrote:


"NordicNed" wrote:


Rumor or not, we would be blessed as a team to get a chance to sign the talent of Brett Farve.
Do I love him? NO !
Do I think he could take us to a Super Bowl and win it all with our team, YES.
Thats all I want to know, who can and can't get us to the big show and win it all.
I know Brett can and would, if given the chance and a few more key pick-ups to add the the whole team picture.




I'de welcome
him any day....

;D


Look what kurt warner did for the cardinals... they were one terrible call and a play away from winning the superbowl.


It would be fun just to see Marrdro squirming and pulling a "ccthebest".

marstc09
02-02-2009, 10:16 AM
Tom Powers: Minnesota Vikings one dynamic quarterback from glory; enter Brett Favre

http://www.twincities.com/sports/ci_11606592

Good stuff here.

marstc09
02-02-2009, 10:27 AM
I wanted to throw this statement out to get those heads spinning.

Is it possible we didn't bring in QBs because we already have been talking with Favre and planning this arrival. Checking out Jackson this year to see if he was the future after Favre hangs it up. Now we might know and look to the draft for a guy with potential like Josh Freeman, Nate Davis, or even Graham Harrell. Not sure I believe this but something to think about. Chilly is sneaky and so is Favre.
;D

I think Favre gives the Jets the run around and they are forced to release him. I feel the decision will come before the end of February. This would be great to allow him to get familiar with the playbook.

VikingLance
02-02-2009, 10:33 AM
"marstc09" wrote:


Tom Powers: Minnesota Vikings one dynamic quarterback from glory; enter Brett Favre

http://www.twincities.com/sports/ci_11606592

Good stuff here.


I'll concede my years of hating Brett.
I do think he gives us our best chance at a Super Bowl next year.
I also think it is more likely that we sign him than any other quarterback available.

Ltrey33
02-02-2009, 10:54 AM
"marstc09" wrote:


I wanted to throw this statement out to get those heads spinning.

Is it possible we didn't bring in QBs because we already have been talking with Favre and planning this arrival. Checking out Jackson this year to see if he was the future after Favre hangs it up. Now we might know and look to the draft for a guy with potential like Josh Freeman, Nate Davis, or even Graham Harrell. Not sure I believe this but something to think about. Chilly is sneaky and so is Favre.
;D

I think Favre gives the Jets the run around and they are forced to release him. I feel the decision will come before the end of February. This would be great to allow him to get familiar with the playbook.


When are you talking about?

We tried last offseason to trade for Sage Rosenfels (and expressed some interest in Favre) and there wasn't anyone available during the regular season.

As I see it, the coaching staff did try to bring in more help at quarterback, but failed to do so.

i_bleed_purple
02-02-2009, 10:55 AM
"Ltrey" wrote:


"marstc09" wrote:


I wanted to throw this statement out to get those heads spinning.

Is it possible we didn't bring in QBs because we already have been talking with Favre and planning this arrival. Checking out Jackson this year to see if he was the future after Favre hangs it up. Now we might know and look to the draft for a guy with potential like Josh Freeman, Nate Davis, or even Graham Harrell. Not sure I believe this but something to think about. Chilly is sneaky and so is Favre.
;D

I think Favre gives the Jets the run around and they are forced to release him. I feel the decision will come before the end of February. This would be great to allow him to get familiar with the playbook.


When are you talking about?

We tried last offseason to trade for Sage Rosenfels (and expressed some interest in Favre) and there wasn't anyone available during the regular season.

As I see it, the coaching staff did try to bring in more help at quarterback, but failed to do so.


thats some A+ recruiting.

Prophet
02-02-2009, 10:57 AM
Pick up Favre and then trade him for a C (figured i would help marrdro out since he's not around).

Ltrey33
02-02-2009, 10:57 AM
Even after an entire year I STILL hope it happens.

I know a lot of people don't, but I want to see Favre in purple next year.

marstc09
02-02-2009, 11:16 AM
"Ltrey" wrote:


"marstc09" wrote:


I wanted to throw this statement out to get those heads spinning.

Is it possible we didn't bring in QBs because we already have been talking with Favre and planning this arrival. Checking out Jackson this year to see if he was the future after Favre hangs it up. Now we might know and look to the draft for a guy with potential like Josh Freeman, Nate Davis, or even Graham Harrell. Not sure I believe this but something to think about. Chilly is sneaky and so is Favre.
;D

I think Favre gives the Jets the run around and they are forced to release him. I feel the decision will come before the end of February. This would be great to allow him to get familiar with the playbook.


When are you talking about?

We tried last offseason to trade for Sage Rosenfels (and expressed some interest in Favre) and there wasn't anyone available during the regular season.

As I see it, the coaching staff did try to bring in more help at quarterback, but failed to do so.


Just trying to stir the pot.

Ltrey33
02-02-2009, 11:16 AM
"marstc09" wrote:


"Ltrey" wrote:


"marstc09" wrote:


I wanted to throw this statement out to get those heads spinning.

Is it possible we didn't bring in QBs because we already have been talking with Favre and planning this arrival. Checking out Jackson this year to see if he was the future after Favre hangs it up. Now we might know and look to the draft for a guy with potential like Josh Freeman, Nate Davis, or even Graham Harrell. Not sure I believe this but something to think about. Chilly is sneaky and so is Favre.
;D

I think Favre gives the Jets the run around and they are forced to release him. I feel the decision will come before the end of February. This would be great to allow him to get familiar with the playbook.


When are you talking about?

We tried last offseason to trade for Sage Rosenfels (and expressed some interest in Favre) and there wasn't anyone available during the regular season.

As I see it, the coaching staff did try to bring in more help at quarterback, but failed to do so.


Just trying to stir the pot.


Haha ok.....tampering charges anyone?

marstc09
02-02-2009, 11:19 AM
"Ltrey" wrote:


"marstc09" wrote:


"Ltrey" wrote:


"marstc09" wrote:


I wanted to throw this statement out to get those heads spinning.

Is it possible we didn't bring in QBs because we already have been talking with Favre and planning this arrival. Checking out Jackson this year to see if he was the future after Favre hangs it up. Now we might know and look to the draft for a guy with potential like Josh Freeman, Nate Davis, or even Graham Harrell. Not sure I believe this but something to think about. Chilly is sneaky and so is Favre.
;D

I think Favre gives the Jets the run around and they are forced to release him. I feel the decision will come before the end of February. This would be great to allow him to get familiar with the playbook.


When are you talking about?

We tried last offseason to trade for Sage Rosenfels (and expressed some interest in Favre) and there wasn't anyone available during the regular season.

As I see it, the coaching staff did try to bring in more help at quarterback, but failed to do so.


Just trying to stir the pot.


Haha ok.....tampering charges anyone?


He used his own phone this time.

CCthebest
02-02-2009, 02:36 PM
As much as I hate Farve the crybaby, and the Pukers, id take just about any vet qb over TJ (other then Gus). That includes Garcia Carr and Collines.

marstc09
02-02-2009, 05:16 PM
"Ltrey" wrote:


"marstc09" wrote:


"Ltrey" wrote:


"marstc09" wrote:


I wanted to throw this statement out to get those heads spinning.

Is it possible we didn't bring in QBs because we already have been talking with Favre and planning this arrival. Checking out Jackson this year to see if he was the future after Favre hangs it up. Now we might know and look to the draft for a guy with potential like Josh Freeman, Nate Davis, or even Graham Harrell. Not sure I believe this but something to think about. Chilly is sneaky and so is Favre.
;D

I think Favre gives the Jets the run around and they are forced to release him. I feel the decision will come before the end of February. This would be great to allow him to get familiar with the playbook.


When are you talking about?

We tried last offseason to trade for Sage Rosenfels (and expressed some interest in Favre) and there wasn't anyone available during the regular season.

As I see it, the coaching staff did try to bring in more help at quarterback, but failed to do so.


Just trying to stir the pot.


Haha ok.....tampering charges anyone?


Actually I might not have been to far off.
;D


Meanwhile, ESPN’s Chris Mortensen reported Sunday that Favre could be angling to join the Vikings, but such a move would not happen via trade because it would cost the Jets multiple first-round picks.

http://www.profootballtalk.com/2009/02/02/conflicting-reports-on-favres-timetable/

V4L
02-02-2009, 05:17 PM
I would not be opposed to Brett starting for us next year

It would make fans excited and get us closeer to a stadium IMO

And give us a bonafide starter for a year or MAYBE 2 if he is healthy

And it's a big fuck u to the Pack

thepacksux
02-02-2009, 05:28 PM
"V4L" wrote:


I would not be opposed to Brett starting for us next year

It would make fans excited and get us closeer to a stadium IMO

And give us a bonafide starter for a year or MAYBE 2 if he is healthy

And it's a big floop u to the Pack


IF he gets his release from the Jets and wants to play i have no doubt that he will be a Viking next year.
A strong veteran team that plays in a WCO make for the perfect situation for him.


Us on the other hand i'm not so sure.... I'm not sure he has enough left to get us all the way but he certainly is a better option than gus or t-jack at this point.
There really are no other good QB options out there that has extensive experience in a WCO.
I would like to see what Kurt Warner could do in this offense with an upgrade at RT and another good receiver.
that would make for a strong, balance offensive attack.

KrackerJack
02-02-2009, 05:57 PM
"marstc09" wrote:


"Å nowbowler" wrote:


"marstc09" wrote:


"Å nowbowler" wrote:


Even if he ends up being released, I still don't think the Vikings should sign him.
Idc if he's a couple years removed from 13-3, he looked bad late this year IMO, and surgerey or not, I think that shoulder will be a problem for him.
Favre is not going to get any better, that's certain, and I don't think he'll stay the same either.
IMO, he'll get worse, his play was crap at the end of the year, and I doubt it was all his shoulder.


Let's say he signs elsewhere, he's another year older, and his shoulder has been causing problems, will he get better? or even stay as good as he was with the Jets? I doubt it, I think it's time for him to retire for good, as hard as that is to imagine.
I honestly think he has no good football left in him, I'd definately take Tjack or him going into 2009.





Looked bad? Hardly. He still made the Pro Bowl and is one of the best QBs in the league. Yes he is not the same but he is a better option than TJ or Booty. I like Carr, Leftwich, and Kitna but they are no Favre. He took a 4-12 team to 9-7. Can you imagine what this team could do with him and a RT Tauscher. A team that went 10-6 and made the playoffs just got that much better. Yes he throws INTs but he has also worked with Bevell and is familiar with what he does. He would listen to him unlike anything he had in NY and even GB. Favre is very good friends with him. Favre can manage the game better than anyone in the league and theat is what we need. To say he has no football left in him is laughable. You can't take talent away from someone. Only his body can slow down. If Kurt Warner has a chance to win a Super Bowl, you better believe your purple loving jiggly butt that Favre can.

Look at it this way or should I say through Wilf and Chillys eyes. He is entering his 4th year of a 5 year contract. This is a crucial year for him. Wilf needs the support of the people. What best way to do that? Put a championsip team together. It only makes sense. Plus Favre will sell tickets. Most of you are looking at this from a fan point of view. Some hate Favre. I did when he was a PACKER. Business makes decisions, not fans. Thank the lord.


I said he looked bad alte in the season, and I believe, and I admittedly may be wrong here, but the pro bowl voting starts mid season, does it not?
He didn't take that team to 9-7 alone, the Jets made other aquisitions in the offseason, and even if those aren't that big of a deal, all it means is Favre played better than the QBs in the previous years for the Jets, which I agree with.
I'm not taking away talent from him, but I do believe there is a point where it starts to fade because of age, but I'm not saying age alone is taking it away, but his shoulder too.
I knew Warner would be brought up, and of course there's a chance to go to and win the super bowl, every qb has a chance to go, but just because Kurt did, doesn't mean Favre will.
I guess the same thing could be said for TJack, but the difference, to me, is that we shouldn't pick up a guy because 'he has a chance', every guy does, I don't think we should give up on a guy we already have though.

I don't think bringing in Favre would make a champion cailiber team, at least not in this point in his career, and tickets are sold from winning games, which I'm not convinced he's not going to be able to do as much as he used to.
I don't have Favre, and the reason I don't want him here is not because he was a Packer, it's because I don't think he's got much left.
I've never hated Favre, he was a great player who had to win games for his team- a lot of which, we against us, and I can't hate a guy for that, he just did his job.


You are right every QB has a chance to be in the big one. TJ failed at that. He had a home playoff game and could not get it done. We have all that talent on the team. Much more than the Jets IMO. Favre knows how to get the most out of players.

You obviously are not from this area. Favre will sell tickets. You are absolutely wrong saying he won't.


Bringing in Favre would sell tickets early on, but would only continue if he played at a decent level throughout the season, which I don't think he can do.
However, you're right, I wouldn't know a lot about that, since I don't live there, and I'm not able to attend many games, since I haven't lived there since I was a kid.

marstc09
02-02-2009, 06:00 PM
"Å nowbowler" wrote:


"marstc09" wrote:


"Å nowbowler" wrote:


"marstc09" wrote:


"Å nowbowler" wrote:


Even if he ends up being released, I still don't think the Vikings should sign him.
Idc if he's a couple years removed from 13-3, he looked bad late this year IMO, and surgerey or not, I think that shoulder will be a problem for him.
Favre is not going to get any better, that's certain, and I don't think he'll stay the same either.
IMO, he'll get worse, his play was crap at the end of the year, and I doubt it was all his shoulder.


Let's say he signs elsewhere, he's another year older, and his shoulder has been causing problems, will he get better? or even stay as good as he was with the Jets? I doubt it, I think it's time for him to retire for good, as hard as that is to imagine.
I honestly think he has no good football left in him, I'd definately take Tjack or him going into 2009.





Looked bad? Hardly. He still made the Pro Bowl and is one of the best QBs in the league. Yes he is not the same but he is a better option than TJ or Booty. I like Carr, Leftwich, and Kitna but they are no Favre. He took a 4-12 team to 9-7. Can you imagine what this team could do with him and a RT Tauscher. A team that went 10-6 and made the playoffs just got that much better. Yes he throws INTs but he has also worked with Bevell and is familiar with what he does. He would listen to him unlike anything he had in NY and even GB. Favre is very good friends with him. Favre can manage the game better than anyone in the league and theat is what we need. To say he has no football left in him is laughable. You can't take talent away from someone. Only his body can slow down. If Kurt Warner has a chance to win a Super Bowl, you better believe your purple loving jiggly butt that Favre can.

Look at it this way or should I say through Wilf and Chillys eyes. He is entering his 4th year of a 5 year contract. This is a crucial year for him. Wilf needs the support of the people. What best way to do that? Put a championsip team together. It only makes sense. Plus Favre will sell tickets. Most of you are looking at this from a fan point of view. Some hate Favre. I did when he was a PACKER. Business makes decisions, not fans. Thank the lord.


I said he looked bad alte in the season, and I believe, and I admittedly may be wrong here, but the pro bowl voting starts mid season, does it not?
He didn't take that team to 9-7 alone, the Jets made other aquisitions in the offseason, and even if those aren't that big of a deal, all it means is Favre played better than the QBs in the previous years for the Jets, which I agree with.
I'm not taking away talent from him, but I do believe there is a point where it starts to fade because of age, but I'm not saying age alone is taking it away, but his shoulder too.
I knew Warner would be brought up, and of course there's a chance to go to and win the super bowl, every qb has a chance to go, but just because Kurt did, doesn't mean Favre will.
I guess the same thing could be said for TJack, but the difference, to me, is that we shouldn't pick up a guy because 'he has a chance', every guy does, I don't think we should give up on a guy we already have though.

I don't think bringing in Favre would make a champion cailiber team, at least not in this point in his career, and tickets are sold from winning games, which I'm not convinced he's not going to be able to do as much as he used to.
I don't have Favre, and the reason I don't want him here is not because he was a Packer, it's because I don't think he's got much left.
I've never hated Favre, he was a great player who had to win games for his team- a lot of which, we against us, and I can't hate a guy for that, he just did his job.


You are right every QB has a chance to be in the big one. TJ failed at that. He had a home playoff game and could not get it done. We have all that talent on the team. Much more than the Jets IMO. Favre knows how to get the most out of players.

You obviously are not from this area. Favre will sell tickets. You are absolutely wrong saying he won't.


Bringing in Favre would sell tickets early on, but would only continue if he played at a decent level throughout the season, which I don't think he can do.
However, you're right, I wouldn't know a lot about that, since I don't live there, and I'm not able to attend many games, since I haven't lived there since I was a kid.


Favre was 8-3 before the injury.

KrackerJack
02-02-2009, 06:01 PM
"marstc09" wrote:


"Å nowbowler" wrote:


"marstc09" wrote:


"Å nowbowler" wrote:


"marstc09" wrote:




Even if he ends up being released, I still don't think the Vikings should sign him.
Idc if he's a couple years removed from 13-3, he looked bad late this year IMO, and surgerey or not, I think that shoulder will be a problem for him.
Favre is not going to get any better, that's certain, and I don't think he'll stay the same either.
IMO, he'll get worse, his play was crap at the end of the year, and I doubt it was all his shoulder.


Let's say he signs elsewhere, he's another year older, and his shoulder has been causing problems, will he get better? or even stay as good as he was with the Jets? I doubt it, I think it's time for him to retire for good, as hard as that is to imagine.
I honestly think he has no good football left in him, I'd definately take Tjack or him going into 2009.





Looked bad? Hardly. He still made the Pro Bowl and is one of the best QBs in the league. Yes he is not the same but he is a better option than TJ or Booty. I like Carr, Leftwich, and Kitna but they are no Favre. He took a 4-12 team to 9-7. Can you imagine what this team could do with him and a RT Tauscher. A team that went 10-6 and made the playoffs just got that much better. Yes he throws INTs but he has also worked with Bevell and is familiar with what he does. He would listen to him unlike anything he had in NY and even GB. Favre is very good friends with him. Favre can manage the game better than anyone in the league and theat is what we need. To say he has no football left in him is laughable. You can't take talent away from someone. Only his body can slow down. If Kurt Warner has a chance to win a Super Bowl, you better believe your purple loving jiggly butt that Favre can.

Look at it this way or should I say through Wilf and Chillys eyes. He is entering his 4th year of a 5 year contract. This is a crucial year for him. Wilf needs the support of the people. What best way to do that? Put a championsip team together. It only makes sense. Plus Favre will sell tickets. Most of you are looking at this from a fan point of view. Some hate Favre. I did when he was a PACKER. Business makes decisions, not fans. Thank the lord.


I said he looked bad alte in the season, and I believe, and I admittedly may be wrong here, but the pro bowl voting starts mid season, does it not?
He didn't take that team to 9-7 alone, the Jets made other aquisitions in the offseason, and even if those aren't that big of a deal, all it means is Favre played better than the QBs in the previous years for the Jets, which I agree with.
I'm not taking away talent from him, but I do believe there is a point where it starts to fade because of age, but I'm not saying age alone is taking it away, but his shoulder too.
I knew Warner would be brought up, and of course there's a chance to go to and win the super bowl, every qb has a chance to go, but just because Kurt did, doesn't mean Favre will.
I guess the same thing could be said for TJack, but the difference, to me, is that we shouldn't pick up a guy because 'he has a chance', every guy does, I don't think we should give up on a guy we already have though.

I don't think bringing in Favre would make a champion cailiber team, at least not in this point in his career, and tickets are sold from winning games, which I'm not convinced he's not going to be able to do as much as he used to.
I don't have Favre, and the reason I don't want him here is not because he was a Packer, it's because I don't think he's got much left.
I've never hated Favre, he was a great player who had to win games for his team- a lot of which, we against us, and I can't hate a guy for that, he just did his job.


You are right every QB has a chance to be in the big one. TJ failed at that. He had a home playoff game and could not get it done. We have all that talent on the team. Much more than the Jets IMO. Favre knows how to get the most out of players.

You obviously are not from this area. Favre will sell tickets. You are absolutely wrong saying he won't.


Bringing in Favre would sell tickets early on, but would only continue if he played at a decent level throughout the season, which I don't think he can do.
However, you're right, I wouldn't know a lot about that, since I don't live there, and I'm not able to attend many games, since I haven't lived there since I was a kid.


Favre was 8-3 before the injury.


Well if he signs here, it'll be after the injury.
;)

VikingMike
02-03-2009, 10:33 AM
"Å nowbowler" wrote:


"marstc09" wrote:


"Å nowbowler" wrote:


"marstc09" wrote:


"Å nowbowler" wrote:






Even if he ends up being released, I still don't think the Vikings should sign him.
Idc if he's a couple years removed from 13-3, he looked bad late this year IMO, and surgerey or not, I think that shoulder will be a problem for him.
Favre is not going to get any better, that's certain, and I don't think he'll stay the same either.
IMO, he'll get worse, his play was crap at the end of the year, and I doubt it was all his shoulder.


Let's say he signs elsewhere, he's another year older, and his shoulder has been causing problems, will he get better? or even stay as good as he was with the Jets? I doubt it, I think it's time for him to retire for good, as hard as that is to imagine.
I honestly think he has no good football left in him, I'd definately take Tjack or him going into 2009.





Looked bad? Hardly. He still made the Pro Bowl and is one of the best QBs in the league. Yes he is not the same but he is a better option than TJ or Booty. I like Carr, Leftwich, and Kitna but they are no Favre. He took a 4-12 team to 9-7. Can you imagine what this team could do with him and a RT Tauscher. A team that went 10-6 and made the playoffs just got that much better. Yes he throws INTs but he has also worked with Bevell and is familiar with what he does. He would listen to him unlike anything he had in NY and even GB. Favre is very good friends with him. Favre can manage the game better than anyone in the league and theat is what we need. To say he has no football left in him is laughable. You can't take talent away from someone. Only his body can slow down. If Kurt Warner has a chance to win a Super Bowl, you better believe your purple loving jiggly butt that Favre can.

Look at it this way or should I say through Wilf and Chillys eyes. He is entering his 4th year of a 5 year contract. This is a crucial year for him. Wilf needs the support of the people. What best way to do that? Put a championsip team together. It only makes sense. Plus Favre will sell tickets. Most of you are looking at this from a fan point of view. Some hate Favre. I did when he was a PACKER. Business makes decisions, not fans. Thank the lord.


I said he looked bad alte in the season, and I believe, and I admittedly may be wrong here, but the pro bowl voting starts mid season, does it not?
He didn't take that team to 9-7 alone, the Jets made other aquisitions in the offseason, and even if those aren't that big of a deal, all it means is Favre played better than the QBs in the previous years for the Jets, which I agree with.
I'm not taking away talent from him, but I do believe there is a point where it starts to fade because of age, but I'm not saying age alone is taking it away, but his shoulder too.
I knew Warner would be brought up, and of course there's a chance to go to and win the super bowl, every qb has a chance to go, but just because Kurt did, doesn't mean Favre will.
I guess the same thing could be said for TJack, but the difference, to me, is that we shouldn't pick up a guy because 'he has a chance', every guy does, I don't think we should give up on a guy we already have though.

I don't think bringing in Favre would make a champion cailiber team, at least not in this point in his career, and tickets are sold from winning games, which I'm not convinced he's not going to be able to do as much as he used to.
I don't have Favre, and the reason I don't want him here is not because he was a Packer, it's because I don't think he's got much left.
I've never hated Favre, he was a great player who had to win games for his team- a lot of which, we against us, and I can't hate a guy for that, he just did his job.


You are right every QB has a chance to be in the big one. TJ failed at that. He had a home playoff game and could not get it done. We have all that talent on the team. Much more than the Jets IMO. Favre knows how to get the most out of players.

You obviously are not from this area. Favre will sell tickets. You are absolutely wrong saying he won't.


Bringing in Favre would sell tickets early on, but would only continue if he played at a decent level throughout the season, which I don't think he can do.
However, you're right, I wouldn't know a lot about that, since I don't live there, and I'm not able to attend many games, since I haven't lived there since I was a kid.


Favre was 8-3 before the injury.


Well if he signs here, it'll be after the injury.
;)



If the Jets release him, when will they do it? Probably after the draft...and that puts us in a bad position. Favre will then sit out the OTA's and come into camp late, and then have to play catch up with our receivers and the voluminous playbook. I don't want that...having said that, I wouldn't mind having him on the team for a year, under the right circumstances.

VikingMike
02-03-2009, 10:37 AM
Tom Powers: Minnesota Vikings one dynamic quarterback from glory; enter Brett Favre (http://www.twincities.com/powers/ci_11606592?nclick_check=1)


TwinCities.com
Tom Powers
Posted: 02/02/2009 12:01:00 AM CST


Enjoy the Super Bowl? Wish the Vikings had been playing? Hang on. That might be closer than you think. Consider the following:

The New York Jets are about $13 million over the salary cap. Coincidentally, quarterback Brett Favre makes about $13 million a season.

marstc09
02-03-2009, 10:38 AM
"VikingMike" wrote:


"Å nowbowler" wrote:


"marstc09" wrote:


"Å nowbowler" wrote:


"marstc09" wrote:








Even if he ends up being released, I still don't think the Vikings should sign him.
Idc if he's a couple years removed from 13-3, he looked bad late this year IMO, and surgerey or not, I think that shoulder will be a problem for him.
Favre is not going to get any better, that's certain, and I don't think he'll stay the same either.
IMO, he'll get worse, his play was crap at the end of the year, and I doubt it was all his shoulder.


Let's say he signs elsewhere, he's another year older, and his shoulder has been causing problems, will he get better? or even stay as good as he was with the Jets? I doubt it, I think it's time for him to retire for good, as hard as that is to imagine.
I honestly think he has no good football left in him, I'd definately take Tjack or him going into 2009.





Looked bad? Hardly. He still made the Pro Bowl and is one of the best QBs in the league. Yes he is not the same but he is a better option than TJ or Booty. I like Carr, Leftwich, and Kitna but they are no Favre. He took a 4-12 team to 9-7. Can you imagine what this team could do with him and a RT Tauscher. A team that went 10-6 and made the playoffs just got that much better. Yes he throws INTs but he has also worked with Bevell and is familiar with what he does. He would listen to him unlike anything he had in NY and even GB. Favre is very good friends with him. Favre can manage the game better than anyone in the league and theat is what we need. To say he has no football left in him is laughable. You can't take talent away from someone. Only his body can slow down. If Kurt Warner has a chance to win a Super Bowl, you better believe your purple loving jiggly butt that Favre can.

Look at it this way or should I say through Wilf and Chillys eyes. He is entering his 4th year of a 5 year contract. This is a crucial year for him. Wilf needs the support of the people. What best way to do that? Put a championsip team together. It only makes sense. Plus Favre will sell tickets. Most of you are looking at this from a fan point of view. Some hate Favre. I did when he was a PACKER. Business makes decisions, not fans. Thank the lord.


I said he looked bad alte in the season, and I believe, and I admittedly may be wrong here, but the pro bowl voting starts mid season, does it not?
He didn't take that team to 9-7 alone, the Jets made other aquisitions in the offseason, and even if those aren't that big of a deal, all it means is Favre played better than the QBs in the previous years for the Jets, which I agree with.
I'm not taking away talent from him, but I do believe there is a point where it starts to fade because of age, but I'm not saying age alone is taking it away, but his shoulder too.
I knew Warner would be brought up, and of course there's a chance to go to and win the super bowl, every qb has a chance to go, but just because Kurt did, doesn't mean Favre will.
I guess the same thing could be said for TJack, but the difference, to me, is that we shouldn't pick up a guy because 'he has a chance', every guy does, I don't think we should give up on a guy we already have though.

I don't think bringing in Favre would make a champion cailiber team, at least not in this point in his career, and tickets are sold from winning games, which I'm not convinced he's not going to be able to do as much as he used to.
I don't have Favre, and the reason I don't want him here is not because he was a Packer, it's because I don't think he's got much left.
I've never hated Favre, he was a great player who had to win games for his team- a lot of which, we against us, and I can't hate a guy for that, he just did his job.


You are right every QB has a chance to be in the big one. TJ failed at that. He had a home playoff game and could not get it done. We have all that talent on the team. Much more than the Jets IMO. Favre knows how to get the most out of players.

You obviously are not from this area. Favre will sell tickets. You are absolutely wrong saying he won't.


Bringing in Favre would sell tickets early on, but would only continue if he played at a decent level throughout the season, which I don't think he can do.
However, you're right, I wouldn't know a lot about that, since I don't live there, and I'm not able to attend many games, since I haven't lived there since I was a kid.


Favre was 8-3 before the injury.


Well if he signs here, it'll be after the injury.
;)



If the Jets release him, when will they do it? Probably after the draft...and that puts us in a bad position. Favre will then sit out the OTA's and come into camp late, and then have to play catch up with our receivers and the voluminous playbook. I don't want that...having said that, I wouldn't mind having him on the team for a year, under the right circumstances.


Go back and read some of the articles I posted in this thread. If the Jets release him they will do it before the start of FA. Here is a good one.

http://www.twincities.com/sports/ci_11606592?nclick_check=1

VikingMike
02-03-2009, 10:52 AM
"marstc09" wrote:


"VikingMike" wrote:


"Å nowbowler" wrote:


"marstc09" wrote:


"Å nowbowler" wrote:










Even if he ends up being released, I still don't think the Vikings should sign him.
Idc if he's a couple years removed from 13-3, he looked bad late this year IMO, and surgerey or not, I think that shoulder will be a problem for him.
Favre is not going to get any better, that's certain, and I don't think he'll stay the same either.
IMO, he'll get worse, his play was crap at the end of the year, and I doubt it was all his shoulder.


Let's say he signs elsewhere, he's another year older, and his shoulder has been causing problems, will he get better? or even stay as good as he was with the Jets? I doubt it, I think it's time for him to retire for good, as hard as that is to imagine.
I honestly think he has no good football left in him, I'd definately take Tjack or him going into 2009.





Looked bad? Hardly. He still made the Pro Bowl and is one of the best QBs in the league. Yes he is not the same but he is a better option than TJ or Booty. I like Carr, Leftwich, and Kitna but they are no Favre. He took a 4-12 team to 9-7. Can you imagine what this team could do with him and a RT Tauscher. A team that went 10-6 and made the playoffs just got that much better. Yes he throws INTs but he has also worked with Bevell and is familiar with what he does. He would listen to him unlike anything he had in NY and even GB. Favre is very good friends with him. Favre can manage the game better than anyone in the league and theat is what we need. To say he has no football left in him is laughable. You can't take talent away from someone. Only his body can slow down. If Kurt Warner has a chance to win a Super Bowl, you better believe your purple loving jiggly butt that Favre can.

Look at it this way or should I say through Wilf and Chillys eyes. He is entering his 4th year of a 5 year contract. This is a crucial year for him. Wilf needs the support of the people. What best way to do that? Put a championsip team together. It only makes sense. Plus Favre will sell tickets. Most of you are looking at this from a fan point of view. Some hate Favre. I did when he was a PACKER. Business makes decisions, not fans. Thank the lord.


I said he looked bad alte in the season, and I believe, and I admittedly may be wrong here, but the pro bowl voting starts mid season, does it not?
He didn't take that team to 9-7 alone, the Jets made other aquisitions in the offseason, and even if those aren't that big of a deal, all it means is Favre played better than the QBs in the previous years for the Jets, which I agree with.
I'm not taking away talent from him, but I do believe there is a point where it starts to fade because of age, but I'm not saying age alone is taking it away, but his shoulder too.
I knew Warner would be brought up, and of course there's a chance to go to and win the super bowl, every qb has a chance to go, but just because Kurt did, doesn't mean Favre will.
I guess the same thing could be said for TJack, but the difference, to me, is that we shouldn't pick up a guy because 'he has a chance', every guy does, I don't think we should give up on a guy we already have though.

I don't think bringing in Favre would make a champion cailiber team, at least not in this point in his career, and tickets are sold from winning games, which I'm not convinced he's not going to be able to do as much as he used to.
I don't have Favre, and the reason I don't want him here is not because he was a Packer, it's because I don't think he's got much left.
I've never hated Favre, he was a great player who had to win games for his team- a lot of which, we against us, and I can't hate a guy for that, he just did his job.


You are right every QB has a chance to be in the big one. TJ failed at that. He had a home playoff game and could not get it done. We have all that talent on the team. Much more than the Jets IMO. Favre knows how to get the most out of players.

You obviously are not from this area. Favre will sell tickets. You are absolutely wrong saying he won't.


Bringing in Favre would sell tickets early on, but would only continue if he played at a decent level throughout the season, which I don't think he can do.
However, you're right, I wouldn't know a lot about that, since I don't live there, and I'm not able to attend many games, since I haven't lived there since I was a kid.


Favre was 8-3 before the injury.


Well if he signs here, it'll be after the injury.
;)



If the Jets release him, when will they do it? Probably after the draft...and that puts us in a bad position. Favre will then sit out the OTA's and come into camp late, and then have to play catch up with our receivers and the voluminous playbook. I don't want that...having said that, I wouldn't mind having him on the team for a year, under the right circumstances.


Go back and read some of the articles I posted in this thread. If the Jets release him they will do it before the start of FA. Here is a good one.

http://www.twincities.com/sports/ci_11606592?nclick_check=1



I did read that one, but that's Powers's opinion. There are conflicting stories from King and the Jets FO. No one really knows...it would make sense for the Jets to commit by the latest end of Feb, and I hope that's the case.

I've been reading comments from the Jets forum...if it was up to them, they'd release him now. Most of them are pissed at the FO for allowing Favre to do whatever he wants, regardless of what it does to team morale.

marstc09
02-03-2009, 11:06 AM
The opinion part is not what I wanted you to focus on. They are in cap trouble. If they want to sign anyone in FA they have to cut Favre or cut some players or restructure contracts in order to get under the cap.

bleedpurple
02-03-2009, 11:10 AM
"marstc09" wrote:


The opinion part is not what I wanted you to focus on. They are in cap trouble. If they want to sign anyone in FA they have to cut Favre or cut others.


yeah, that's true... i think they're hoping he retires.... i'm still holding out hope he comes to Minny....

VikingMike
02-03-2009, 11:17 AM
"marstc09" wrote:


The opinion part is not what I wanted you to focus on. They are in cap trouble. If they want to sign anyone in FA they have to cut Favre or cut some players or restructure contracts in order to get under the cap.



Yes...that would take them right out of the FA market. Gonna be interesting to see what the Jets FO does.

Newsday's poll reports 60% of fans don't want Favre back on the Jets.

marstc09
02-03-2009, 11:34 AM
"VikingMike" wrote:


"marstc09" wrote:


The opinion part is not what I wanted you to focus on. They are in cap trouble. If they want to sign anyone in FA they have to cut Favre or cut some players or restructure contracts in order to get under the cap.



Yes...that would take them right out of the FA market. Gonna be interesting to see what the Jets FO does.

Newsday's poll reports 60% of fans don't want Favre back on the Jets.


From the comments of some of his teammates, it sounds like they don't want him back either.

marshallvike
02-03-2009, 11:57 AM
"VikingMike" wrote:


"Å nowbowler" wrote:


"marstc09" wrote:


"Å nowbowler" wrote:


"marstc09" wrote:








Even if he ends up being released, I still don't think the Vikings should sign him.
Idc if he's a couple years removed from 13-3, he looked bad late this year IMO, and surgerey or not, I think that shoulder will be a problem for him.
Favre is not going to get any better, that's certain, and I don't think he'll stay the same either.
IMO, he'll get worse, his play was crap at the end of the year, and I doubt it was all his shoulder.


Let's say he signs elsewhere, he's another year older, and his shoulder has been causing problems, will he get better? or even stay as good as he was with the Jets? I doubt it, I think it's time for him to retire for good, as hard as that is to imagine.
I honestly think he has no good football left in him, I'd definately take Tjack or him going into 2009.





Looked bad? Hardly. He still made the Pro Bowl and is one of the best QBs in the league. Yes he is not the same but he is a better option than TJ or Booty. I like Carr, Leftwich, and Kitna but they are no Favre. He took a 4-12 team to 9-7. Can you imagine what this team could do with him and a RT Tauscher. A team that went 10-6 and made the playoffs just got that much better. Yes he throws INTs but he has also worked with Bevell and is familiar with what he does. He would listen to him unlike anything he had in NY and even GB. Favre is very good friends with him. Favre can manage the game better than anyone in the league and theat is what we need. To say he has no football left in him is laughable. You can't take talent away from someone. Only his body can slow down. If Kurt Warner has a chance to win a Super Bowl, you better believe your purple loving jiggly butt that Favre can.

Look at it this way or should I say through Wilf and Chillys eyes. He is entering his 4th year of a 5 year contract. This is a crucial year for him. Wilf needs the support of the people. What best way to do that? Put a championsip team together. It only makes sense. Plus Favre will sell tickets. Most of you are looking at this from a fan point of view. Some hate Favre. I did when he was a PACKER. Business makes decisions, not fans. Thank the lord.


I said he looked bad alte in the season, and I believe, and I admittedly may be wrong here, but the pro bowl voting starts mid season, does it not?
He didn't take that team to 9-7 alone, the Jets made other aquisitions in the offseason, and even if those aren't that big of a deal, all it means is Favre played better than the QBs in the previous years for the Jets, which I agree with.
I'm not taking away talent from him, but I do believe there is a point where it starts to fade because of age, but I'm not saying age alone is taking it away, but his shoulder too.
I knew Warner would be brought up, and of course there's a chance to go to and win the super bowl, every qb has a chance to go, but just because Kurt did, doesn't mean Favre will.
I guess the same thing could be said for TJack, but the difference, to me, is that we shouldn't pick up a guy because 'he has a chance', every guy does, I don't think we should give up on a guy we already have though.

I don't think bringing in Favre would make a champion cailiber team, at least not in this point in his career, and tickets are sold from winning games, which I'm not convinced he's not going to be able to do as much as he used to.
I don't have Favre, and the reason I don't want him here is not because he was a Packer, it's because I don't think he's got much left.
I've never hated Favre, he was a great player who had to win games for his team- a lot of which, we against us, and I can't hate a guy for that, he just did his job.


You are right every QB has a chance to be in the big one. TJ failed at that. He had a home playoff game and could not get it done. We have all that talent on the team. Much more than the Jets IMO. Favre knows how to get the most out of players.

You obviously are not from this area. Favre will sell tickets. You are absolutely wrong saying he won't.


Bringing in Favre would sell tickets early on, but would only continue if he played at a decent level throughout the season, which I don't think he can do.
However, you're right, I wouldn't know a lot about that, since I don't live there, and I'm not able to attend many games, since I haven't lived there since I was a kid.


Favre was 8-3 before the injury.


Well if he signs here, it'll be after the injury.
;)



If the Jets release him, when will they do it? Probably after the draft...and that puts us in a bad position. Favre will then sit out the OTA's and come into camp late, and then have to play catch up with our receivers and the voluminous playbook. I don't want that...having said that, I wouldn't mind having him on the team for a year, under the right circumstances.


voluminous playbook? We have one of those? Why don't we use it?

gamecocksbaseball31
02-03-2009, 12:19 PM
They want a decision on whether he is going to retire or not by the combine.

jmcdon00
02-03-2009, 12:21 PM
"gamecocksbaseball31" wrote:


They want a decision on whether he is going to retire or not by the combine.


lmao, what a diva.

V4L
02-03-2009, 12:21 PM
Make it happen cap'n

VikingsTw
02-03-2009, 12:41 PM
"marstc09" wrote:


"VikingMike" wrote:


"marstc09" wrote:


The opinion part is not what I wanted you to focus on. They are in cap trouble. If they want to sign anyone in FA they have to cut Favre or cut some players or restructure contracts in order to get under the cap.



Yes...that would take them right out of the FA market. Gonna be interesting to see what the Jets FO does.

Newsday's poll reports 60% of fans don't want Favre back on the Jets.


From the comments of some of his teammates, it sounds like they don't want him back either.


I watched Thomas Jones lie on NFL Network saying he would except Favre back, I could tell by his body language and facial expressions he wasn't in favor of it. Why? I can't be for certain, he started off so well then tanked the season with some of the worst INT's I have ever seen.

This may be a little conspiracy, but I do wonder if some of his teamates felt he was half @ssing or possibly tanked the season. Its my believe that he never had a real want or high motivation to play for the Jets. I could see those tides turning if he gets to play where he wants to play. IMO its huge motivational factor for him, not only to play for the team he wants to but to stick it too the team that pushed him out the door. Knowing the Drama Queen Favre is he wants nothing less that a grafiying experience on his way out and thats aimed directly at the Packers.

marstc09
02-03-2009, 12:54 PM
"VikingsTw" wrote:


"marstc09" wrote:


"VikingMike" wrote:


"marstc09" wrote:


The opinion part is not what I wanted you to focus on. They are in cap trouble. If they want to sign anyone in FA they have to cut Favre or cut some players or restructure contracts in order to get under the cap.



Yes...that would take them right out of the FA market. Gonna be interesting to see what the Jets FO does.

Newsday's poll reports 60% of fans don't want Favre back on the Jets.


From the comments of some of his teammates, it sounds like they don't want him back either.


I watched Thomas Jones lie on NFL Network saying he would except Favre back, I could tell by his body language and facial expressions he wasn't in favor of it. Why? I can't be for certain, he started off so well then tanked the season with some of the worst INT's I have ever seen.

This may be a little conspiracy, but I do wonder if some of his teamates felt he was half @ssing or possibly tanked the season. Its my believe that he never had a real want or high motivation to play for the Jets. I could see those tides turning if he gets to play where he wants to play. IMO its huge motivational factor for him, not only to play for the team he wants to but to stick it too the team that pushed him out the door. Knowing the Drama Queen Favre is he wants nothing less that a grafiying experience on his way out and thats aimed directly at the Packers.


Very interesting thought. I actually could see that. What perfect way for him to stick it to the Packers by not making the playoffs. Now their pick is only a 3rd rounder. Prove in the beginning that you still have it. Maybe fake an injury. Could be the reason he is not getting any surgery. Get the Jets to not want you and release you. Not you get what you want and play for the Vikings. Favre wins in the end and so do we. Super Bowl here we come.
;D

jmcdon00
02-03-2009, 12:56 PM
"VikingsTw" wrote:


"marstc09" wrote:


"VikingMike" wrote:


"marstc09" wrote:


The opinion part is not what I wanted you to focus on. They are in cap trouble. If they want to sign anyone in FA they have to cut Favre or cut some players or restructure contracts in order to get under the cap.



Yes...that would take them right out of the FA market. Gonna be interesting to see what the Jets FO does.

Newsday's poll reports 60% of fans don't want Favre back on the Jets.


From the comments of some of his teammates, it sounds like they don't want him back either.


I watched Thomas Jones lie on NFL Network saying he would except Favre back, I could tell by his body language and facial expressions he wasn't in favor of it. Why? I can't be for certain, he started off so well then tanked the season with some of the worst INT's I have ever seen.

This may be a little conspiracy, but I do wonder if some of his teamates felt he was half @ssing or possibly tanked the season. Its my believe that he never had a real want or high motivation to play for the Jets. I could see those tides turning if he gets to play where he wants to play. IMO its huge motivational factor for him, not only to play for the team he wants to but to stick it too the team that pushed him out the door. Knowing the Drama Queen Favre is he wants nothing less that a grafiying experience on his way out and thats aimed directly at the Packers.

I don't buy that he tanked the season, but I don't think he was a 100% committed either. I don't really want him, except that it would piss off the packers, so maybe.

marstc09
02-03-2009, 12:59 PM
"jmcdon00" wrote:


"VikingsTw" wrote:


"marstc09" wrote:


"VikingMike" wrote:


"marstc09" wrote:


The opinion part is not what I wanted you to focus on. They are in cap trouble. If they want to sign anyone in FA they have to cut Favre or cut some players or restructure contracts in order to get under the cap.



Yes...that would take them right out of the FA market. Gonna be interesting to see what the Jets FO does.

Newsday's poll reports 60% of fans don't want Favre back on the Jets.


From the comments of some of his teammates, it sounds like they don't want him back either.


I watched Thomas Jones lie on NFL Network saying he would except Favre back, I could tell by his body language and facial expressions he wasn't in favor of it. Why? I can't be for certain, he started off so well then tanked the season with some of the worst INT's I have ever seen.

This may be a little conspiracy, but I do wonder if some of his teamates felt he was half @ssing or possibly tanked the season. Its my believe that he never had a real want or high motivation to play for the Jets. I could see those tides turning if he gets to play where he wants to play. IMO its huge motivational factor for him, not only to play for the team he wants to but to stick it too the team that pushed him out the door. Knowing the Drama Queen Favre is he wants nothing less that a grafiying experience on his way out and thats aimed directly at the Packers.

I don't buy that he tanked the season, but I don't think he was a 100% committed either. I don't really want him, except that it would piss off the packers, so maybe.


You need a new jersey anyways.
;)

jmcdon00
02-03-2009, 01:04 PM
"marstc09" wrote:


"jmcdon00" wrote:


"VikingsTw" wrote:


"marstc09" wrote:


"VikingMike" wrote:




The opinion part is not what I wanted you to focus on. They are in cap trouble. If they want to sign anyone in FA they have to cut Favre or cut some players or restructure contracts in order to get under the cap.



Yes...that would take them right out of the FA market. Gonna be interesting to see what the Jets FO does.

Newsday's poll reports 60% of fans don't want Favre back on the Jets.


From the comments of some of his teammates, it sounds like they don't want him back either.


I watched Thomas Jones lie on NFL Network saying he would except Favre back, I could tell by his body language and facial expressions he wasn't in favor of it. Why? I can't be for certain, he started off so well then tanked the season with some of the worst INT's I have ever seen.

This may be a little conspiracy, but I do wonder if some of his teamates felt he was half @ssing or possibly tanked the season. Its my believe that he never had a real want or high motivation to play for the Jets. I could see those tides turning if he gets to play where he wants to play. IMO its huge motivational factor for him, not only to play for the team he wants to but to stick it too the team that pushed him out the door. Knowing the Drama Queen Favre is he wants nothing less that a grafiying experience on his way out and thats aimed directly at the Packers.

I don't buy that he tanked the season, but I don't think he was a 100% committed either. I don't really want him, except that it would piss off the packers, so maybe.


You need a new jersey anyways.
;)

I got a berrian Jersey for Christmas, No way would I ever buy a Favre jersey, even if it was purple. Well maybe if they won the superbowl, twice.

marshallvike
02-03-2009, 01:14 PM
"VikingsTw" wrote:


"marstc09" wrote:


"VikingMike" wrote:


"marstc09" wrote:


The opinion part is not what I wanted you to focus on. They are in cap trouble. If they want to sign anyone in FA they have to cut Favre or cut some players or restructure contracts in order to get under the cap.



Yes...that would take them right out of the FA market. Gonna be interesting to see what the Jets FO does.

Newsday's poll reports 60% of fans don't want Favre back on the Jets.


From the comments of some of his teammates, it sounds like they don't want him back either.


I watched Thomas Jones lie on NFL Network saying he would except Favre back, I could tell by his body language and facial expressions he wasn't in favor of it. Why? I can't be for certain, he started off so well then tanked the season with some of the worst INT's I have ever seen.

This may be a little conspiracy, but I do wonder if some of his teamates felt he was half @ssing or possibly tanked the season. Its my believe that he never had a real want or high motivation to play for the Jets. I could see those tides turning if he gets to play where he wants to play. IMO its huge motivational factor for him, not only to play for the team he wants to but to stick it too the team that pushed him out the door. Knowing the Drama Queen Favre is he wants nothing less that a grafiying experience on his way out and thats aimed directly at the Packers.



Seems to me that taking the Jets to the playoffs while his former team tanks would be quite a motivation.

El Vikingo
02-03-2009, 01:21 PM
lo it is obvious mars started the thread and made the poll"Do you want Farve if we don´t have any other better options?"
it is obvious people will answer yes, or in other words they prefer Favre to Gus

VikingMike
02-03-2009, 01:23 PM
"marstc09" wrote:


"VikingsTw" wrote:


"marstc09" wrote:


"VikingMike" wrote:


"marstc09" wrote:


The opinion part is not what I wanted you to focus on. They are in cap trouble. If they want to sign anyone in FA they have to cut Favre or cut some players or restructure contracts in order to get under the cap.



Yes...that would take them right out of the FA market. Gonna be interesting to see what the Jets FO does.

Newsday's poll reports 60% of fans don't want Favre back on the Jets.


From the comments of some of his teammates, it sounds like they don't want him back either.


I watched Thomas Jones lie on NFL Network saying he would except Favre back, I could tell by his body language and facial expressions he wasn't in favor of it. Why? I can't be for certain, he started off so well then tanked the season with some of the worst INT's I have ever seen.

This may be a little conspiracy, but I do wonder if some of his teamates felt he was half @ssing or possibly tanked the season. Its my believe that he never had a real want or high motivation to play for the Jets. I could see those tides turning if he gets to play where he wants to play. IMO its huge motivational factor for him, not only to play for the team he wants to but to stick it too the team that pushed him out the door. Knowing the Drama Queen Favre is he wants nothing less that a grafiying experience on his way out and thats aimed directly at the Packers.


Very interesting thought. I actually could see that. What perfect way for him to stick it to the Packers by not making the playoffs. Now their pick is only a 3rd rounder. Prove in the beginning that you still have it. Maybe fake an injury. Could be the reason he is not getting any surgery. Get the Jets to not want you and release you. Not you get what you want and play for the Vikings. Favre wins in the end and so do we. Super Bowl here we come.
;D



I think we are giving Favre a bit more credit than he deserves (with regard to being a puppet master).

Do I think he wants to go back to the Jets? No way...if he did, he would have acted much differently at the end of the season. I know he wants to come to the Vikes. But now it's in the hands of the Jets FO to see what they can salvage from their disastrous signing.