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COJOMAY
08-07-2008, 05:11 PM
Has anyone found a write-up written by an "outsider" (not a Viking fan or local newspaper) like ESPN or another major football source on how TJ stacks up this year in training camp compared to last year?
I've been looking but haven't really found such a write-up. Can anyone point me in the right direction. I appreciate all of the local write-ups and maybe they are even better than what the national press is saying but I just haven't found much other than if the Vikings are going to do anything this year TJ has to do better.

BloodyHorns82
08-07-2008, 05:33 PM
Kevin Sieffert had made some comments back during OTAs about how much improved TJack looked this year over last.
But he is only 1/2 an outsider since he was with the Strib last year, and now with E SPN.

COJOMAY
08-07-2008, 05:37 PM
There will probably be a "ton" of comments on him by the national press after the Seachicken's game.

VikesFan4Life
08-07-2008, 05:41 PM
Personally, I'd like to see Jackson get more than just a series or two of playing time tomorrow night, but it's just wishful thinking on my part.

Mr-holland
08-07-2008, 05:42 PM
"COJOMAY" wrote:


There will probably be a "ton" of comments on him by the national press after the Seachicken's game.

I think that's it. I havn't seen much articles about vikings training camp ( well except the one from the region etc ) and if that was, half of it was about Favre...

Schutz
08-07-2008, 05:53 PM
"Ragnarok" wrote:


Personally, I'd like to see Jackson get more than just a series or two of playing time tomorrow night, but it's just wishful thinking on my part.


Yeah it is, but hopefully by week 3 or 4 we'll see atleast the first half.

Purple Floyd
08-07-2008, 06:46 PM
He needs a hell of alot more PT in preseason than he did last year. In the end he will certainly be better than last. The question is how high the ceiling is on his development.

cajunvike
08-07-2008, 07:01 PM
"BloodyHorns82" wrote:


Kevin Sieffert had made some comments back during OTAs about how much improved TJack looked this year over last.
But he is only 1/2 an outsider since he was with the Strib last year, and now with E SPN.


And he still lives in Minny, so he is still gonna be perceived as biased....totally correct, but biased nonetheless.
;D

StillPurple
08-07-2008, 07:41 PM
I am looking forward to seeing Tarvaris and all our players. I really want to see Gus and Booty too. I just hope the game is on down on TV, here in northern Mexico (Texas).
::)

singersp
08-07-2008, 08:18 PM
"COJOMAY" wrote:


Has anyone found a write-up written by an "outsider" (not a Viking fan or local newspaper) like ESPN or another major football source on how TJ stacks up this year in training camp compared to last year?
I've been looking but haven't really found such a write-up. Can anyone point me in the right direction. I appreciate all of the local write-ups and maybe they are even better than what the national press is saying but I just haven't found much other than if the Vikings are going to do anything this year TJ has to do better.


I have posted several articles, some biased, some not. Check for the recent threads & in the Vikings Training camp recent updates thread. Also there was an ESPN thread I posted in the offseason;

http://www.purplepride.org/forums/index.php?topic=46871.0

This is what they had to say;


Judging by camp drills, QB Tarvaris Jackson will be more accurate than last year. Especially if the league institutes a no-rushing-the-quarterback rule.

COJOMAY
08-07-2008, 08:29 PM
I had read all the stuff you posted Singer but there is virtually nothing there from major national writers not only on TJ but darn little on the Vikings themselves.
No offense to you, I know you post it all. I was just wondering if I had missed something.
Today's piece you posted from the Mankato newspaper is about the best I've seen this year.

VikingsTw
08-07-2008, 08:35 PM
I think a couple things that can be heard start with interviews and how thats changed since last season and the one before. He's getting more comfortable with being the "guy", I think they are doing well in preparing him for that.

I also like to think his Work Ethic has been outstounding, he's worked on more than just his mental game, there was a report out of Tom Shaw's camp that Tarvaris was bench pressing 405 pounds and clocked a 4.54 40 Time. Tom Shaw called his numbers "freaky". Tom Shaw's camp was a great example of "wanting it", he and Bernard teamed up down in Orlando to put in some extra work.

I like the way Tarvaris thinks, alot can be said from an interview. Also how he's conducted himself throught the Favre questions and the media pressure. Right now Tarvaris is saying all the right things, he struggled in National Televised Games last season and gets a early shot to put that to rest.

Last years training camp did not include a long pass from Tarvaris untill aprox practice #7, this training camp Tarvaris has been on the money down field several times with his new weapons and experience.

In the end I think its important to see the Passion Tarvaris has for the game, above all I think this is the most important aspect and what Drives him into become the QB he was meant to be.

Purple Floyd
08-07-2008, 08:43 PM
What it boils down to is he is a big mystery and will continue to be one until he gets on the field and faces first string defenders from different teams.

What we do know is that the team around him is one that the FO wants and there will be no excuses that can be blamed on the previous regime.

The coaches and team have provided us with the company line, which is to be expected but that all means very little in the grand scheme of things. The test will be when he is under constant pressure and how he performs under it and unfortunately we all will have to wait until kickoff for that to become evident.

I am hoping his upside is huge and that we go all the way this year. IMO the NFC is wide open if we put the right team together and the AFC is as vulnerable as they have been in years.

singersp
08-07-2008, 08:55 PM
"UffDaVikes" wrote:


What it boils down to is he is a big mystery and will continue to be one until he gets on the field and faces first string defenders from different teams.

What we do know is that the team around him is one that the FO wants and there will be no excuses that can be blamed on the previous regime.

The coaches and team have provided us with the company line, which is to be expected but that all means very little in the grand scheme of things. The test will be when he is under constant pressure and how he performs under it and unfortunately we all will have to wait until kickoff for that to become evident.

I am hoping his upside is huge and that we go all the way this year. IMO the NFC is wide open if we put the right team together and the AFC is as vulnerable as they have been in years.


Exactly! But you & I know some fans here are going to expect perfection rather than
what should be expected which is progress.

I know damn well there will be a "Start Frerotte" or "Start Booty" thread started the very second T-Jack gas his first bad play.

I made damn sure Garland wouldn't start a T-Joke thread by giving him tix to the game, LOL!

Purple Floyd
08-07-2008, 09:03 PM
"singersp" wrote:


"UffDaVikes" wrote:


What it boils down to is he is a big mystery and will continue to be one until he gets on the field and faces first string defenders from different teams.

What we do know is that the team around him is one that the FO wants and there will be no excuses that can be blamed on the previous regime.

The coaches and team have provided us with the company line, which is to be expected but that all means very little in the grand scheme of things. The test will be when he is under constant pressure and how he performs under it and unfortunately we all will have to wait until kickoff for that to become evident.

I am hoping his upside is huge and that we go all the way this year. IMO the NFC is wide open if we put the right team together and the AFC is as vulnerable as they have been in years.


Exactly! But you & I know some fans here are going to expect perfection rather than
what should be expected which is progress.

I know damn well there will be a "Start Frerotte" or "Start Booty" thread started the very second T-Jack gas his first bad play.

I made damn sure Garland wouldn't start a T-Joke thread by giving him tix to the game, LOL!


It depends on how you define progress and also how the rest of the team performs. If the line is as porous as it has had a tendency to be I don't expect much from him. If he has ample time to make reads and executes them properly but balls are dropped it will be unfair to blame him. If he misses reads and makes bad decisions on a regular basis that cost us games the heat will be on.