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VikingsTw
12-29-2004, 02:48 PM
Posted on Wed, Dec. 29, 2004

Randy Moss believes in charity

BY SEAN JENSEN

Pioneer Press

Vikings receiver Randy Moss immediately added members to his fan club when he first graced the corridors of Catholic Charities' St. Joseph's Home for Children six years ago.

Students, teachers and counselors were flattered and awed that the superstar rookie receiver was volunteering at St. Joe's, a Minneapolis haven for children in crisis since 1869.

"I saw him on TV a couple of times," one 10-year-old student says. "It was really cool to meet one of the coolest football players in the (NFL)."

One of the matriarchs at St. Joe's wasn't as easily impressed. Cleo Luzar, a volunteer at St. Joe's for more than 40 years, considered Moss too "abrupt" with the children in 1998.

"He'd lost me as an advocate," says Luzar, 87, a finalist for the Vikings' Community Quarterback award. "I was very upset with him."

Luzar was skeptical when she learned Moss wanted to initiate a reading program at St. Joe's and Bancroft Elementary School earlier this year. But Moss quickly gained another fan on the first of his three visits to St. Joe's.

Luzar watched Moss gently approach a boy counselors and teachers at St. Joe's could not connect with.

"He was terribly shy," Luzar says of the boy. "Our children come here with all sorts of things that have happened to them. He just hid behind a post."

Moss engaged the boy in a short conversation, and he coaxed him to join classmates for lunch. Most of the teachers and counselors cried.

Moss declined several interview requests for this story. Agent Dante DiTrapano explained his client prefers to keep his philanthropy to himself.

"He's not doing it to get attention," DiTrapano said. "He does it because it feels good to him and it's beneficial to the kids. He does things with kids all the time, things no one knows about."

Since his rookie year, Moss has paid for four season tickets so three students at St. Joe's, based on the recommendation of teachers, can attend Vikings home games with an adult chaperone.

Every summer, Moss holds an event for the youth of Charleston, W.Va. This past summer, he provided them with a free carnival, including rides and games. Last year, he took hundreds of them on a bus trip to an amusement park in Ohio.

Two weeks ago, Moss granted a dying girl's request to see him play. She attended the game in Detroit, where she watched him catch four passes for 102 yards and one touchdown in the Vikings' 28-27 victory. In addition, Moss suggested to coach Mike Tice at the beginning of the month that the Vikings should take advantage of playing on Dec. 24. So they arranged for hundreds of needy and homeless families to attend a holiday party at Winter Park on Dec. 20.

"Randy is a very private person and he believes in charity," DiTrapano said, "and true charity is giving not for publicity but to help others."

Vikings receiver Nate Burleson didn't even know Moss had started the reading program. "That doesn't surprise me," he said. "He doesn't try to toot his own horn. He always handles kids first. Stuff like that shows me what type of person he is."

As a boy growing up in Rand, W.V., Moss loved a reading program in which he was rewarded with a personal pizza. He asked Brad Madson, the Vikings' director of community relations, to set up a similar program at two schools. They decided on Bancroft, where late Vikings right tackle Korey Stringer regularly volunteered, and St. Joe's.

Three times during the season, Moss personally distributed pizzas to each student who wrote a book report. At St. Joe's, Moss listened to each of the students' reports. In all, 50 students participated in the program at St. Joe's, reading more than 250 books from October to December.

Mary Schoelch said Moss would engage students in discussions about the latest Harry Potter book, and he even would suggest books that he liked as a boy.

"Our children respond by racing off to the library the moment he leaves the building," said Schoelch, the volunteer coordinator at St. Joe's. "He showed such genuine interest in their book reports. He'd say, 'Hey, I read that book as a little boy.' They connected with him as a fellow reader."

On the last visit of this season, students at St. Joe's presented Moss with a large framed photo from his first visit on Oct. 19. Upon his arrival then, six of the youngest children at the school asked Moss if they could hug him. Moss obliged, and the seven of them embraced. Schoelch had the black-and-white photo enlarged and framed with a caption that reads, "The Most Important Huddle You'll Ever Be In."

"Randy's won a ton of awards from the NFL," Madson said. "I remember seeing his rookie of the year trophy in the garbage. Those individual awards don't touch him. But he really appreciated this picture."

Later, Moss told Madson, "This is going up in the house."

Tice said Moss always has favored children over adults. Leery of adults who seek to sell his autograph for profit, Moss freely poses for pictures with children and leans toward signing torn scraps of paper, not expensive footballs and helmets.

"He knows kids tell the truth," Tice said. "That's important to him."

Moss is not scheduled to visit St. Joe's again this football season, but the students are not the only ones eagerly awaiting his return.

"When they knew he was coming, they looked forward to it," Luzar said. "You could see the excitement the week before. They would come up and say, 'Do you know Randy Moss is coming, Grandma Cleo?'

"We can all hardly wait."

TheAnimal93
12-29-2004, 02:54 PM
thats a great story. obviously moss is a private person and deserves more respect than he gets as a human being!

rjkvikings
12-29-2004, 03:34 PM
The best part is that he doesn't want these stories written because if he did he would talk to the press about it. He doesn't care what other people and the press say about him as long as he knows he is doing good.

XTAP59
12-29-2004, 03:37 PM
Exactly. Just because he doesn't trust the media, and with good reason, it doesn't mean Moss is a bad guy, a thug, punk, or crybaby. It means he has been burned by the media and keeps to himself about his on field performances and guards his personal life even more.

ultravikingfan
12-29-2004, 04:49 PM
What an awesome story! Randy is such a great person off the field. Earlier this year I read the ESPN The Magazine. It was great! It is too bad that people want to lament of the facs such as the traffic cop, playing when he wants to, and giving the refs a shower! I guess it is human nature to try to make those who make more money and are famous look more human by hammering us with the negatives!

packmanxxxi
12-29-2004, 04:52 PM
so tell me this....

Why when an article comes out about Moss' negatives do you dismiss it, but when an article about his positives comes out you embrace it and cherish it?

Truth is, NONE of you know Moss. You think what you want. Is what he did here a good thing? Absolutly? But in the midst of it, NEVER forget his drug problem, nor that little incident of running over a cop, somehting you and I would STILL be in jail for...

ultravikingfan
12-29-2004, 04:54 PM
People can change. Of course I don't know him, and I do think what I want. I think he has seen the error of his ways and has matured.

VKG4LFE
12-29-2004, 04:55 PM
You don't know him either, yet you rip on him relentlessly for things in the past.

packmanxxxi
12-29-2004, 04:56 PM
And I think he showed his true colors in the PAcker game and Collinsworth, as much as I hate him, called him on it. Moss took plays off. Over and over. Watch the game. I have, many times now. Was he hurting? Maybe, maybe not. Regardless, there was no effort.... hey, more power to ya to like this guy. All I know is you havent won the division since when???? oh yeah.. I alsmot forgot...

packmanxxxi
12-29-2004, 04:57 PM
no, I dont know him, never claimed too... just know the facts of whats happened. I dont rip on his person, just on his actions...

VKG4LFE
12-29-2004, 04:59 PM
I don't think anyone in here ever claimed to know him either (maybe jackyl knows him somewhat). Not winning a division title in a while has nothing to do with one player. We have won division titles with him and we have also not won it with him. I have no idea what that has to do with anything. I think having Moss gives us as good a shot as anybody to win the division title.

packmanxxxi
12-29-2004, 05:02 PM
VKG4LFE...

If you had a Moss, who played his HEART 100% every game, he would scare me to death to the point I wouldn't think the Packers would ever win the division till he retires.

But, youve seen the past 3 yrs. We blame the playcalling not getting him the ball. Maybe the playcalling isnt getting him the ball because hes not playing... period

HarrisonB57
12-29-2004, 05:07 PM
"packmanxxxi" wrote:

so tell me this....

Why when an article comes out about Moss' negatives do you dismiss it, but when an article about his positives comes out you embrace it and cherish it?

Truth is, NONE of you know Moss. You think what you want. Is what he did here a good thing? Absolutly? But in the midst of it, NEVER forget his drug problem, nor that little incident of running over a cop, somehting you and I would STILL be in jail for...

Cris Carter had drug problems, but look at what he does for his community and for charity. Look at Brett Favre, he had his pain killer addiction and everyone not a viking fan is in love with him. Ray Lewis was on trial for MURDER, and he is one of the most popular players in the league.

Nobody is perfect, but just because they mess up a few times doesn't mean they are a bad person.

VKG4LFE
12-29-2004, 05:08 PM
He caught 111 balls last year. How many more times does he have to catch the ball for him to be playing 100%. I see this argument is going nowhere, but I think he played his @ss off last year becoming the first WR to have 100 receptions, average 100 yards and a TD a game. This year he has been hurt. I'm not saying he doesn't ever take a play off, because I'm not ignorant and he does. I just think it happens a lot less than people accuse him of! He alone did not win us the division and he didn't lose it either!!

jackyl
12-29-2004, 05:09 PM
Moss in person is 10 times more classy than that article states.

rjkvikings
12-29-2004, 06:43 PM
"packmanxxxi" wrote:

so tell me this....

Why when an article comes out about Moss' negatives do you dismiss it, but when an article about his positives comes out you embrace it and cherish it?

Truth is, NONE of you know Moss. You think what you want. Is what he did here a good thing? Absolutly? But in the midst of it, NEVER forget his drug problem, nor that little incident of running over a cop, somehting you and I would STILL be in jail for...

Well, when is the last time an article came out about his negatives? Second, no, we don't know Moss, but I do know that he DID drugs. Does he now? We don't know, but I think he has learned his lesson. Last, we would still be in jail for running over a cop, but probably not for lightly pushing someone with our car. It's not like he ran her over going 80. Plus, that was also a long time ago, and I'm pretty sure he learned his lesson from that too.

VKG4LFE
12-29-2004, 06:59 PM
"jackyl" wrote:

Moss in person is 10 times more classy than that article states.

I am very envious (sp?) of you jackyl! I need a job where I get to work with current and former vikings! I probably wouldn't get much work done though!

jackyl
12-29-2004, 07:00 PM
"VKG4LFE" wrote:

I probably wouldn't get much work done though!

That's the best part of the job. :lol:

VKG4LFE
12-29-2004, 07:01 PM
lol!! Very true!

VikingsTw
12-29-2004, 08:54 PM
There was also a great story about moss in training camp. His first year this little girl yelled out his name while he was sighning autographs, he adored her so much that he went over sighned autographs and whatnot. As the years grew on so did there relationship, he would always eat lunch with at training camp and visit every day. The girl soon came down with lukimia and died. There's alot more to the story, when i read it i actually teared up. It was great story, these are things that make a real personality. Not what the media overblows into a big debocle. I could care less waht maxi pad says he doesnt know the truth or moss. He's like every other hater that comes along, here's what the media says and then judges from there. The great thing is Moss doesnt give shit about what people like maxi pad say about him.

ultravikingfan
12-29-2004, 09:31 PM
Here is the story that vikingstw was refering to:

7-year-old catches the heart of Randy Moss. I could not find anything about her dying. Great article, great man!

BY SEAN JENSEN

Pioneer Press


The recurring image of Randy Moss at training camp is of the Vikings receiver gracefully snaring passes over helpless teammates. The lasting image is of him walking hand in hand with a young girl, smiling and laughing, or signing autographs for children with her perched on his shoulders.

Vikings players and coaches know by name, and the 7-year-old and her father, Craig, have been VIP guests of Moss for the past five training camps. Kassi walks the 200 yards from the locker room to the Minnesota State dormitory with Moss, and they eat lunch together in the cafeteria.

"Randy loves that girl to death," Vikings quarterback Daunte Culpepper said. "They have that connection, and I think it's beautiful."

For many, it is a different vision of Moss, the talented receiver known almost as much for his ornery off-the-field antics as his remarkable skill on the field. He's remembered for squirting water at an official during a game and allegedly knocking down a Minneapolis traffic agent with his sedan. Intensely private, Moss rarely grants interview requests and does not feel compelled to defend himself, although many of his teammates do.

Shelly Bartlett of North Mankato was so moved when she witnessed Moss' genuine affection for Spier on Aug. 5, that she wrote a letter to the Mankato Free Press. Bartlett was particularly touched when Moss leaned over and asked Kassi, "Can I have my kiss now?"

"Thank you, No. 84, for being a true friend to Kassi," Bartlett concluded in her letter.

But those aren't the prevailing images of Moss.

"A lot of people don't know Randy and the type of guy he is," Culpepper said. "That's why when you hear something like this, people should know about it, even though he wouldn't want people to know."

Moss, indeed, did not want to talk about his relationship with Spier, politely declining three separate interview requests.

"It's personal," he said.

It was the small voice of a 2½-year old girl that got his attention when Moss was a rookie in 1998.

"He just fell in love with me because I just yelled, 'Randy,' " Kassi said matter-of-factly.

Craig and Kassi, who are from Kimball, S.D., returned the following year, and Moss got them field-access passes. They ate lunch together in the cafeteria several times. They learned that Moss and Kassi shared the same small-town roots and the same birthday, February 13.

Head coach Mike Tice said the two have a special bond because of Moss' inclination toward children, not adults. Moss often turns down autograph requests from adults by saying, 'Too big, dawg."

"Randy trusts kids, Randy doesn't trust adults," Tice said. "That's because adults throughout his career, when they knew he was going to be special, used him. Kids don't use him. Kids love him. My son loves Randy."

In May 2000, Kassi was diagnosed with leukemia, a cancer that affects the bone marrow, where blood cells are produced. She still attended training camp that year, and even sat with Moss during an interview with ESPN's Roy Firestone. Her father said she vomited shortly thereafter.

On Aug. 5, Craig and Kassi attended the preseason opener against the New Orleans Saints at the Metrodome. During that game, Moss suffered shoulder and rib injuries and went to the hospital. Kassi refused to drive home until she knew Moss was fine.

"I told my dad we couldn't go home until I knew he was OK," said Kassi, who owns at least six Randy Moss jerseys. "He's my buddy."

Later that month, Kassi was hospitalized in Rochester, Minn., sometimes in critical condition, Craig said. The family contacted Vikings director of community relations, Brad Madson, and informed him of Kassi's situation. Madson relayed the message to Moss, and the Vikings star visited her one Saturday in September.

They played games, and they talked, but he had a hard time saying goodbye, Kassi recalled.

"He cried because he didn't want to leave," she said.

Kassi remained in Rochester through April, and her father quit his job and stayed at the hospital or the Ronald McDonald House. In February, for her 5th birthday, Moss sent her an orange battery-operated Barbie Jeep. Moss also has given them tickets to at least half a dozen Vikings games, spending time with her on the Metrodome turf before the game.

She's now a fixture for several days each year at training camp.

"She's just a nice young lady," said running back Michael Bennett, who has a picture she drew him hanging in his locker. "She has the mind of an adult and it strikes when she gets to talking."

But the leukemia has taken a toll. Kassi is well spoken for her age, but she's less than three feet tall, at least half the size of the average 7-year-old. Craig said his daughter started feeling better a few months ago, and he remains hopeful that she'll conquer the leukemia.

"At first, they didn't know if she'd make it this far," he said, "but you always have to wish for the best."

Despite the largely negative perception of Moss, Kassi and Craig are confident that they know the real Randy Moss, the man who makes their summer vacation special and only requires kisses on the cheek in return. Kassi defends her friend, even scolding her dad when he plays a football video game and tackles Moss.

"Don't hurt Randy, Dad," she says.

On one of her final days at training camp this year, Kassi walked up to Tice, who was doing an autograph session at the local Target, and asked him to give Moss a message.

"She came around and said, 'Coach, coach.' I said, 'Yes honey,' " Tice recalled. "She said, 'Will you tell Randy I love him,' and I almost started crying. I had to take a deep one there."

cajunvike
12-29-2004, 09:39 PM
"packmanxxxi" wrote:

so tell me this....

Why when an article comes out about Favre's negatives do you dismiss it, but when an article about his positives comes out you embrace it and cherish it?

Truth is, NONE of you know Favre. You think what you want. Is what he did here a good thing? Absolutly? But in the midst of it, NEVER forget his drug problem, something you and I would STILL be in jail or rehab for...

Damn, that post coulda been about Moss! :scratch:

T-Bone
12-29-2004, 10:23 PM
"packmanxxxi" wrote:

so tell me this....

Why when an article comes out about Moss' negatives do you dismiss it, but when an article about his positives comes out you embrace it and cherish it?

Truth is, NONE of you know Moss. You think what you want. Is what he did here a good thing? Absolutly? But in the midst of it, NEVER forget his drug problem, nor that little incident of running over a cop, somehting you and I would STILL be in jail for...

Drugs in the NFL? I don't believe it. I guarantee all Packers are perfect citizens, cough-Chmura-cough.

Vikestand
12-29-2004, 10:39 PM
I have met him before...No joke and Duante and Bennett....Those three are 10 times nicer people then Orlando Pace or Torry Holt....Trust me...Bennett gave me two tickets tot he bears vikings game in Champaigne a few years ago...