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VikingsTw
12-05-2004, 08:54 PM
Kelly Cambell WR
Brian Williams CB
Brian Russell FS
Jermaine Wiggins TE
Gus Frerotte QB
Chris Claiborne LB
David Dixon OL
Chris Hovan DT

Since we are 13 weeks into the season, here's a list of guys in their last year of their contracts. Of these guys who would you like to see back or see dissapear.

I think we should make an effort to get Claiborne back, he's been healthy and has looked good the past two weeks, as young as we are at the LB position we need some veterans. Also Brian Williams, hes been OK but not as good as i expected i think maybe we can let Russell go and convert BW to the FS position where him and Chavous can team up together. Definitly Wiggy too. I've heard that Dixon is thinking of coming back for another season, he's also solid.

Any other thoughts?

vikings_fan66
12-05-2004, 09:02 PM
I would keep these guys:
Kelly Cambell WR
Brian Williams CB
Jermaine Wiggins TE
Gus Frerotte QB
Chris Claiborne LB
David Dixon OL

cheesefree
12-05-2004, 09:27 PM
Frerotte wants to start, not end his career as a backup. I doubt he'll be back, there's plenty of teams like the Ravens that need a decent QB.

ItalianStallion
12-05-2004, 09:47 PM
"cheesefree" wrote:

Frerotte wants to start, not end his career as a backup. I doubt he'll be back, there's plenty of teams like the Ravens that need a decent QB.

where did you hear that, teams weren't clamoring for him as a starter last year. Now he's is 2 years older, hmm.

Caine
12-05-2004, 10:23 PM
Tough call there. A lot of guys on that list are guys at positions we need to improve in (The DB's especially). Others are aging, and may not be the best candidates for their respective positions next season.

The only 3 I would for sure lock up now are Campbell, Wiggins, and Ferotte, with a nod to Russell if he can find his game again.

Caine

snowinapril
12-06-2004, 09:05 AM
Keep

Brian Williams CB
Brian Russell FS
Jermaine Wiggins TE
Gus Frerotte QB
David Dixon OL

If we give up any of these guys, we better have a serious plan to find a replacement for them.

FS and CB, what are we goig to do bring in rookies or free agents. I don't want to rely on rookies and we obviously don't have anyone in the wings waiting to take over or they would be playing now.

OL, we would probably be alright but I would rather have Dixon playing.

QB, we need to find another back up then. I totally understand if Gus wants to play. More power to him.

TE, I don't think we would have to keep Wiggy, I just like the guy. He can catch. I like his display of tough guy and finess, especially with his frame. He doesn't look like he has any finess in that frame but he does.

LB, it seems like a toss up. I would like to keep him but I am not sure if the Vikes will. I think they will have tough decision to make. We haven't seen a lot of him this year. We have the young guys, I think they will do better next year. They have been improving.

WR are expendable on our team. If you like Moss and Burley, that is all we need. I guess if we want to keep campbell for KR and PR but I wouldn't pay him anymore than what we are paying him now. I know Tice mentioned he would like to have more 2 TE sets when we get Kleiny back = less need for that 3rd WR.

Del Rio
12-06-2004, 09:14 AM
Dixon and Wiggins the rest can go bye bye.

Oh and Tice's contract is up too isn't it? :D

AngloVike
12-06-2004, 09:23 AM
"vikingstw" wrote:

Kelly Cambell WR
Brian Williams CB
Brian Russell FS
Jermaine Wiggins TE
Gus Frerotte QB
Chris Claiborne LB
David Dixon OL
Chris Hovan DT

Since we are 13 weeks into the season, here's a list of guys in their last year of their contracts. Of these guys who would you like to see back or see dissapear.

I think we should make an effort to get Claiborne back, he's been healthy and has looked good the past two weeks, as young as we are at the LB position we need some veterans. Also Brian Williams, hes been OK but not as good as i expected i think maybe we can let Russell go and convert BW to the FS position where him and Chavous can team up together. Definitly Wiggy too. I've heard that Dixon is thinking of coming back for another season, he's also solid.

Any other thoughts?
Not sure about moving Williams back to FS as I think he can offer a lot at CB, then again Irvin should be back so there could be some merit in moving Williams.
Wiggins I'd like to keep and see if we could get some good 2 TE sets using him and Jimmy K. Ferotte we keep unless he gets offers to start elsewhere but he's a reliable backup, which is something you need in the NFL these days.
Claiborne I'd keep as he brings experience to the LB corps which we will still need next year regardless of whether we pick up any decent LBs via FA.
Dixon has had one of his best years for awhile and I'm sure we could keep him for at least another season so that we can decide who to replace him with.
Hovan, regardless of whether you like him or feel he's overrated he'll be gone after this year. The fact that he's been in street clothes for the last two game and the DL has not missed him speaks volumes. The only way that he'd be back would be through a change of HC and a willingness to sign a contract based on incentives, otherwise he'll be history.

snowinapril
12-06-2004, 10:00 AM
Maybe, we can get Chad Hutchinson if Frerote decides to leave. :roll:

Remember that Jeff George is out there also.

Vinny T will probably be available?

Kurt Warner

No but seriously, we didn't even need a backup this year (knock on wood). There will be some descent QBs out there next year.

I still would like to keep Gus if he doesn't decide to try out somewhere else.

whackthepack
12-06-2004, 11:22 AM
Cory Chavous is a big ? mark!

He is not the same player that he was last year and he is not helping this team much!

Do we drop him and go after a free agent safety?

ItalianStallion
12-06-2004, 11:26 AM
Chavous is definitely worth keeping around, moreso than Russell.

cajunvike
12-06-2004, 11:27 AM
"vikingstw" wrote:

Kelly Cambell WR
Brian Williams CB
Brian Russell FS
Jermaine Wiggins TE
Gus Frerotte QB
Chris Claiborne LB
David Dixon OL
Chris Hovan DT

Since we are 13 weeks into the season, here's a list of guys in their last year of their contracts. Of these guys who would you like to see back or see dissapear.

I think we should make an effort to get Claiborne back, he's been healthy and has looked good the past two weeks, as young as we are at the LB position we need some veterans. Also Brian Williams, hes been OK but not as good as i expected i think maybe we can let Russell go and convert BW to the FS position where him and Chavous can team up together. Definitly Wiggy too. I've heard that Dixon is thinking of coming back for another season, he's also solid.

Any other thoughts?

Brian Williams CB - Yes
Brian Russell FS - Only for the minimum
Jermaine Wiggins TE - Yes, solid
Gus Frerotte QB - Yes, for the minimum (if DC goes down, good insurance)
Chris Claiborne LB Yes - (only if no injury problems)
David Dixon OL - Yes, solid
Chris Hovan DT - Only for minimum (cut in training camp if no good)

VikingsTw
12-06-2004, 11:38 AM
I really like Brian Williams, he seemed to play a little better last year with more INT's but i think olearly played more of a cover two defense where all the DB's had chances to jump routes, if you remeber any of his INT's last year he was in zone coverage. He's a great tackler and a hard hitter because he was a safty in college. I dont know what kind of money he will demand but the main question is, "Can we get someone else that's better than him?" Probably not, definitly not a rookie and free agent corners this year will be thin. I think its important to get him back.

To whoever wants to get rid of chavous: Thats kinda crazy, tell me who's gonna replace him? The draft is week this year at the safty position but i dont know about FA.

I do know we have some $ this year.

ItalianStallion
12-06-2004, 11:58 AM
Hovan will not be back next year, even if we were willing to bring him back.

MossWilliamsHenderson
12-06-2004, 12:11 PM
No way I want to see Chavous go, if I have to choose between Russell or Chavous, I rather keep Chavous.

I want Russell gone!
Wiggins can stay
I want Hovan gone!
Cambell can stay
Frerotte can stay
Dixon can stay
Williams can stay
Claiborne I am not very sure about, he can't stay healthy and is overweight but if he stays healthy and keep his weight good then he can stay but if not, let him go!

poult
12-06-2004, 12:58 PM
knowing reds cheap ass, anyone that will accept the minimum will probably be back. god i hope hovan wants more than that, i dont wanna see his big mouth in purple ever again.

snowinapril
12-06-2004, 01:07 PM
"ItalianStallion" wrote:

Hovan will not be back next year, even if we were willing to bring him back.

Yeah, I think Tice won't give him a chance to come back. Would another coach, a new coach?

Chavous needs to STAY. We need to keep some of our better people. Can't just start from scratch, where would we be then?

Stallion, your new logo must be all the rave with the chicks on the PP.Org.
It is disturbing that I find myself looking at the HELMET. Maybe if you put a Packer Helmet there, we would be less likely to look at it. :scratch:

LOL

ItalianStallion
12-06-2004, 02:00 PM
lol, all 2 or 3 of them, right ?


Hovan will probably sign somewhere else, only to play better than he has ever played for us. It wouldn't surprise me.

magicci
12-06-2004, 08:03 PM
i think woodson is a free agent next year do you think the vikes will sign him?

ItalianStallion
12-06-2004, 08:23 PM
Woodson will be tagged and/or traded before he hits the market. And we will not give up what he is worth.

muchluv4smoot
12-06-2004, 09:55 PM
Russell, claiborne, and Tice need to go!!!!

ADubya26
12-06-2004, 11:54 PM
Tice needs to go because he calls plays like a highschool coach

Russell needs to go because he is not playing well at all this year and cant tackle for crap

Im not sure if most of the coaching blame falls on Tice or on the coordinators, but Linehan underachieves and Cotrell isnt doing much at all with some great talent on defense.

I say get a new damn owner for starters and let the appropriate heads roll from there.

84>TO
12-07-2004, 12:13 AM
Kelly Campbell is a good deep threat but he really isn't needed on our team if we have Moss, Burleson, Robinson and Wiggins all catching passes. Brian Williams is an average corner, so let's keep him instead of searching for more talent at CB. Dixon is part of one of the best offensive lines in football. He should stay. Hovan is pretty much gone unless he magically regains his old form. Claiborne is an okay linebacker on the downside of his career. Should we really wait to see when he gets bad and cut him or should we just draft a LB in the draft? Our season is done without Daunte anyway, so let Gus go if he doesn't want to stay.

Happy Holidays Everyone! :santa: