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MNgriff
11-28-2007, 04:06 PM
Maybe I'm jumping the gun here, but I don't see any chance of it not happening. Just giving users a chance to catch it too. Can't wait to make my first trip to Valhal...er Canton in 2008 to see one of my boyhood greats be inducted. Found this little tidbit over on http://www.nfl.com

Vikes_King
11-28-2007, 04:08 PM
yeah i read this earlier myself, i say the man is a shoe-in for induction.
I think we've all always known he would be in there one day anyways right?

Congrats CC!

BadlandsVikings
11-28-2007, 04:08 PM
If he's elected on Super Bowl Saturday I'm going

NodakPaul
11-28-2007, 04:08 PM
Here is the link
http://www.nfl.com/halloffame/story?id=09000d5d803c394c&template=with-video&confirm=true

NodakPaul
11-28-2007, 04:10 PM
"BadlandsViking" wrote:


If he's elected on Super Bowl Saturday I'm going


I would like to go to.
It all depends on whether I can talk the wife into making that our fall vacation... :)

Vikes_King
11-28-2007, 04:12 PM
Randall Cunningham, Herschel Walker, Randall McDaniel, Matt Blair, and Joey Browner are also on the list for nominees.

jmcdon00
11-28-2007, 04:15 PM
Will he go in as a Dolphin? traitor!

NodakPaul
11-28-2007, 04:22 PM
"jmcdon00" wrote:


Will he go in as a Dolphin? traitor!


Doubt it.

MNgriff
11-28-2007, 04:24 PM
"NodakPaul" wrote:


"jmcdon00" wrote:


Will he go in as a Dolphin? traitor!


Doubt it.

I'd say he's about as likely to go in as a 'fin as he would go in as an eagle. Cunningham on the other hand would be interesting to see who he goes in as.

NodakPaul
11-28-2007, 04:30 PM
"MNgriff" wrote:


"NodakPaul" wrote:


"jmcdon00" wrote:


Will he go in as a Dolphin? traitor!


Doubt it.

I'd say he's about as likely to go in as a 'fin as he would go in as an eagle. Cunningham on the other hand would be interesting to see who he goes in as.


I would expect him to go in as an eagle if/when he makes it.

MNgriff
11-28-2007, 04:34 PM
"NodakPaul" wrote:


"MNgriff" wrote:


"NodakPaul" wrote:


"jmcdon00" wrote:


Will he go in as a Dolphin? traitor!


Doubt it.

I'd say he's about as likely to go in as a 'fin as he would go in as an eagle. Cunningham on the other hand would be interesting to see who he goes in as.


I would expect him to go in as an eagle if/when he makes it.

Think you'll be right there, but man how they hated on him in philly. Tough city to play in. I highly doubt he'll make it first ballot and maybe not at all.

lakehubertviking
11-28-2007, 04:54 PM
"NodakPaul" wrote:


I would expect him to go in as an eagle if/when he makes it.


Why do you say that?
He did 3 years with the Eagles, 1 with the Fins, and 12 with the Vikings.
I think most people remember him as a Viking/the guy Buddy Ryan let go.
I'm not saying you're wrong I just thought it was up to the player and that he would think of himself as Viking first.

*EDIT*Never mind, apparently attention to detail isn't my strong suit today.
Maybe (McNabb) will go in as a Viking someday too LOL.

ultravikingfan
11-28-2007, 04:55 PM
"MNgriff" wrote:


"NodakPaul" wrote:


"jmcdon00" wrote:


Will he go in as a Dolphin? traitor!


Doubt it.

I'd say he's about as likely to go in as a 'fin as he would go in as an eagle. Cunningham on the other hand would be interesting to see who he goes in as.


Cunningham is an Eagle; that is a given.

ultravikingfan
11-28-2007, 04:57 PM
"lakehubertviking" wrote:


"NodakPaul" wrote:


I would expect him to go in as an eagle if/when he makes it.


Why do you say that?
He did 3 years with the Eagles, 1 with the Fins, and 12 with the Vikings.
I think most people remember him as a Viking/the guy Buddy Ryan let go.
I'm not saying you're wrong I just thought it was up to the player and that he would think of himself as Viking first.


Read the entire post.
He is talking about Cunningham.

He was replying to this:


I'd say he's about as likely to go in as a 'fin as he would go in as an eagle. Cunningham on the other hand would be interesting to see who he goes in as.

NodakPaul
11-28-2007, 05:09 PM
Carter officially announced as a semi-finalist.
http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d8049ca96

NodakPaul
11-28-2007, 05:35 PM
Here is the official list of semi-finalists
http://www.profootballhof.com/enshrinement/story.jsp?story_id=2607

Cris Carter, WR – 1987-89 Philadelphia Eagles, 1990-2001 Minnesota Vikings, 2002 Miami Dolphins
Terrell Davis, RB – 1995-2001 Denver Broncos
Dermontti Dawson, C – 1988-2000 Pittsburgh Steelers
Fred Dean, DE – 1975-1981 San Diego Chargers, 1981-85 San Francisco 49ers
Richard Dent, DE – 1983-1993, 1995 Chicago Bears, 1994 San Francisco 49ers, 1996 Indianapolis Colts, 1997 Philadelphia Eagles
Randy Gradishar, LB – 1974-1983 Denver Broncos
Darrell Green, CB – 1983-2002 Washington Redskins
Kevin Greene, LB/DE – 1985-1992 Los Angeles Rams, 1993-95 Pittsburgh Steelers, 1996, 1998-99 Carolina Panthers, 1997 San Francisco 49ers
Russ Grimm, G – 1981-1991 Washington Redskins
Ray Guy, P – 1973-1986 Oakland/Los Angeles Raiders
Charles Haley, DE/LB – 1986-1991, 1999 San Francisco 49ers, 1992-96 Dallas Cowboys
Lester Hayes, CB – 1977-1986 Oakland/Los Angeles Raiders
Rickey Jackson, LB – 1981-1993 New Orleans Saints, 1994-95 San Francisco 49ers
Joe Jacoby, T – 1981-1993 Washington Redskins
Cortez Kennedy, DT – 1990-2000 Seattle Seahawks
Bob Kuechenberg, G – 1970-1984 Miami Dolphins
Randall McDaniel, G – 1988-1999 Minnesota Vikings, 2000-01 Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Art Monk, WR – 1980-1993 Washington Redskins, 1994 New York Jets, 1995 Philadelphia Eagles
Andre Reed, WR –1985-1999 Buffalo Bills, 2000 Washington Redskins
Ken Stabler, QB – 1970-79 Oakland Raiders, 1980-81 Houston Oilers, 1982-84 New Orleans Saints
Paul Tagliabue, Commissioner – 1989-2006 National Football League
Steve Tasker, Special Teams/WR – 1985-1986 Houston Oilers, 1986-1997 Buffalo Bills
Derrick Thomas, LB – 1989-1999 Kansas City Chiefs
Andre Tippett, LB – 1982-1993 New England Patriots
George Young, GM/Administrator – 1968-1974 Baltimore Colts, 1975-78 Miami Dolphins, 1979-1997 New York Giants, 1998-2001 National Football League
Gary Zimmerman, T – 1986-1992 Minnesota Vikings, 1993-97 Denver Broncos

Zeus
11-28-2007, 06:14 PM
My ballot of 7.

Cris Carter, WR – 1987-89 Philadelphia Eagles, 1990-2001 Minnesota Vikings, 2002 Miami Dolphins
Darrell Green, CB – 1983-2002 Washington Redskins
Charles Haley, DE/LB – 1986-1991, 1999 San Francisco 49ers, 1992-96 Dallas Cowboys
Lester Hayes, CB – 1977-1986 Oakland/Los Angeles Raiders
Randall McDaniel, G – 1988-1999 Minnesota Vikings, 2000-01 Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Art Monk, WR – 1980-1993 Washington Redskins, 1994 New York Jets, 1995 Philadelphia Eagles
George Young, GM/Administrator – 1968-1974 Baltimore Colts, 1975-78 Miami Dolphins, 1979-1997 New York Giants, 1998-2001 National Football League

=Z=

ultravikingfan
11-28-2007, 06:39 PM
"Zeus" wrote:


My ballot of 7.

Cris Carter, WR – 1987-89 Philadelphia Eagles, 1990-2001 Minnesota Vikings, 2002 Miami Dolphins
Darrell Green, CB – 1983-2002 Washington Redskins
Charles Haley, DE/LB – 1986-1991, 1999 San Francisco 49ers, 1992-96 Dallas Cowboys
Lester Hayes, CB – 1977-1986 Oakland/Los Angeles Raiders
Randall McDaniel, G – 1988-1999 Minnesota Vikings, 2000-01 Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Art Monk, WR – 1980-1993 Washington Redskins, 1994 New York Jets, 1995 Philadelphia Eagles
George Young, GM/Administrator – 1968-1974 Baltimore Colts, 1975-78 Miami Dolphins, 1979-1997 New York Giants, 1998-2001 National Football League

=Z=


Good list there -Z-.
It is a shame McDaniel did not make it last year.
One of the best G's to ever play.

It is a shame that Monk has never made it either.
There was a huge discussion about that last year.

Zeus
11-28-2007, 06:47 PM
"ultravikingfan" wrote:


"Zeus" wrote:


My ballot of 7.

Cris Carter, WR – 1987-89 Philadelphia Eagles, 1990-2001 Minnesota Vikings, 2002 Miami Dolphins
Darrell Green, CB – 1983-2002 Washington Redskins
Charles Haley, DE/LB – 1986-1991, 1999 San Francisco 49ers, 1992-96 Dallas Cowboys
Lester Hayes, CB – 1977-1986 Oakland/Los Angeles Raiders
Randall McDaniel, G – 1988-1999 Minnesota Vikings, 2000-01 Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Art Monk, WR – 1980-1993 Washington Redskins, 1994 New York Jets, 1995 Philadelphia Eagles
George Young, GM/Administrator – 1968-1974 Baltimore Colts, 1975-78 Miami Dolphins, 1979-1997 New York Giants, 1998-2001 National Football League


Good list there -Z-.
It is a shame McDaniel did not make it last year.
One of the best G's to ever play.

It is a shame that Monk has never made it either.
There was a huge discussion about that last year.


Monk vs. Reed and Tags vs. Young were my tough calls.
Monk had a better supporting cast in WRs, while Reed had better at QB, long-term.
Taglibue will make it, but if I'm putting in a non-player, I gotta go with the length of the commitment and success with Young.

=Z=

ultravikingfan
11-28-2007, 06:54 PM
"Zeus" wrote:


"ultravikingfan" wrote:


"Zeus" wrote:


My ballot of 7.

Cris Carter, WR – 1987-89 Philadelphia Eagles, 1990-2001 Minnesota Vikings, 2002 Miami Dolphins
Darrell Green, CB – 1983-2002 Washington Redskins
Charles Haley, DE/LB – 1986-1991, 1999 San Francisco 49ers, 1992-96 Dallas Cowboys
Lester Hayes, CB – 1977-1986 Oakland/Los Angeles Raiders
Randall McDaniel, G – 1988-1999 Minnesota Vikings, 2000-01 Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Art Monk, WR – 1980-1993 Washington Redskins, 1994 New York Jets, 1995 Philadelphia Eagles
George Young, GM/Administrator – 1968-1974 Baltimore Colts, 1975-78 Miami Dolphins, 1979-1997 New York Giants, 1998-2001 National Football League


Good list there -Z-.
It is a shame McDaniel did not make it last year.
One of the best G's to ever play.

It is a shame that Monk has never made it either.
There was a huge discussion about that last year.


Monk vs. Reed and Tags vs. Young were my tough calls.
Monk had a better supporting cast in WRs, while Reed had better at QB, long-term.
Taglibue will make it, but if I'm putting in a non-player, I gotta go with the length of the commitment and success with Young.

=Z=


I think Tags will get in this year.
He was a good commish and it looks good on the NFL.

After this year we will have 8 primary Hall of Famers (9 if McDaniel gets in).


http://www.profootballhof.com/hof/teams.html

vikesfargo
11-28-2007, 11:27 PM
Go Cris Carter! I still think a great DVD could be made of just Cris Carter catching balls in games. At some point, put in a bunch of catches he almost made but were ruled incomplete. The acrobatics, the incredible desire to catch the ball no matter the odds, and the amazing catches he made all put him in the Hall. Then there are the numbers. Look at his catches and touchdowns, and the number of first downs he made. The Vikings could always get a short yardage play by throwing a pass to Cris Carter. Most teams needed a power running game. Cris Carter was the Vikings power running game--from the wide receiver position. Then he would catch one deep. He was truly unstoppable. Vikings were dumb to let him go, even though he was aging.

Randall McDaniel - He deserves to go. He was a complete force at right guard. Among offensive linemen, he is one of the greatest of all time. Letting him go was a big mistake made by the Vikes.

Gary Zimmerman - I still have no ability to understand why the Vikings let this guy go. All he did was win two Super Bowls with the Broncos afterward. He was incredibly stout as a LT. To me, he defined the position. He just shut people down.

As for other teams, I believe Ray Guy and Art Monk should be on the ballot. Guy once hit the roof of the Superdome. He was an incredible athelete, and could punt the holy hell out of the ball. He was a weapon unto himself. Art Monk made all the catches. He's got to be in, too. And Darrell Green.

SKOL
11-28-2007, 11:39 PM
"MNgriff" wrote:


"NodakPaul" wrote:


"jmcdon00" wrote:


Will he go in as a Dolphin? traitor!


Doubt it.

I'd say he's about as likely to go in as a 'fin as he would go in as an eagle. Cunningham on the other hand would be interesting to see who he goes in as.


We have this conversation every year.
It always ends the same.
In the NFL they're not inducted by team... all the teams they played for are listed.
Carter will have Eagles, Vikings and Dolphins, McDaniel with Vikings and Tampa Bay.

http://www.profootballhof.com/hof/positions.jsp

ultravikingfan
11-28-2007, 11:49 PM
"SKOL" wrote:


"MNgriff" wrote:


"NodakPaul" wrote:


"jmcdon00" wrote:


Will he go in as a Dolphin? traitor!


Doubt it.

I'd say he's about as likely to go in as a 'fin as he would go in as an eagle. Cunningham on the other hand would be interesting to see who he goes in as.


We have this conversation every year.
It always ends the same.
In the NFL they're not inducted by team... all the teams they played for are listed.
Carter will have Eagles, Vikings and Dolphins, McDaniel with Vikings and Tampa Bay.

http://www.profootballhof.com/hof/positions.jsp



So true.

The Hall of Fame list players list players by " the major part of their primary contribution for any one club."

That's like Stenerud.
He was with us for only 2 years and is listed as spending a "minor portion" of his career with us.

http://www.profootballhof.com/hof/teams.html

Schutz
11-28-2007, 11:52 PM
Carter will more than likely be required to catch his hall of fame plaque while diving one handed.

ultravikingfan
11-28-2007, 11:53 PM
I am reserving my tickets for the induction soon.

Whoever else plans on going should do the same.

Schutz
11-28-2007, 11:57 PM
"ultravikingfan" wrote:


I am reserving my tickets for the induction soon.

Whoever else plans on going should do the same.


Yeah, it will be great.
Carter is one of those Receivers who doesn't get enough credit when you bring up great receivers because he wasn't as flashy as Rice.
Chris Carter in my opinion was the greatest CATCHING receiver the nfl has ever seen.
I would love to see him inducted.
And have clips of his look of disbelief of Gary Anderson making a 50 some yard field goal (Sadly my most memorable Carter memory.)

Turboe
11-29-2007, 12:33 AM
"ultravikingfan" wrote:


I am reserving my tickets for the induction soon.

Whoever else plans on going should do the same.


How do you do that?
Is there a link?
Are the induction ceremony and the game seperate tickets, or is it like a weekend badge type of thing?
Any idea how much money we are talking about?


I think I might be up for this.

ultravikingfan
11-29-2007, 12:50 AM
"Turboe" wrote:


"ultravikingfan" wrote:


I am reserving my tickets for the induction soon.

Whoever else plans on going should do the same.


How do you do that?
Is there a link?
Are the induction ceremony and the game seperate tickets, or is it like a weekend badge type of thing?
Any idea how much money we are talking about?



I think I might be up for this.




http://www.sportstravelandtours.com/tripsdetail.cfm?id=427

Prophet
11-29-2007, 09:33 AM
2008 Pro Football Hall of Fame Semifinalists (http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/7500942)
AP
28 Nov. 2007

Marrdro
11-29-2007, 09:54 AM
"Prophet" wrote:


2008 Pro Football Hall of Fame Semifinalists (http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/7500942)
AP
28 Nov. 2007


Maybe you guys that know more about the HOF than I do can answer a couple of questions.

What the hell does Ole number 47 need to do to get in?

How does Joey Browners numbers stack up against other safeties in the hall?

10 NFL Seasons
145 Games played
6 Consecutive Pro Bowl appearances
37 Ints
3 for TD's
Over 1100 total tackles
Caused 18 fumbles recovered 16 of them
Led the team in 9 defensive categories over his NFL career.
Holds the NFL Pro Bowl record with 3 fumble recoveries.
4 time member of the John Madden "All-Madden Team" (and not the game mind you).

Prophet
11-29-2007, 09:57 AM
"Marrdro" wrote:


,,,Maybe you guys that know more about the HOF than I do can answer a couple of questions.

What the hell does Ole number 47 need to do to get in?

How does Joey Browners numbers stack up against other safeties in the hall?

...

http://www.profootballhof.com/hof/selectionprocess.jsp

COJOMAY
11-29-2007, 10:03 AM
I noticed Sid Hartman is the Minnesota representative on the board.
I wonder if he remembers how to get to the voting place?
:D

Marrdro
11-29-2007, 10:23 AM
"Prophet" wrote:


"Marrdro" wrote:


,,,Maybe you guys that know more about the HOF than I do can answer a couple of questions.

What the hell does Ole number 47 need to do to get in?

How does Joey Browners numbers stack up against other safeties in the hall?

...

http://www.profootballhof.com/hof/selectionprocess.jsp

Thanks Proph.

Well his 37 Ints are quite up there with the likes of a Paul Krause (81), Yale Lary (50), Ronnie Lott (63), Ken Houston (49), Willie Wood (48), Larry Wilson (52) his bio is still pretty good (i.e. Pro-bowls) and hangs with the best of them.

Guess to get in he would really have to go up against a weak class.
Probably not gonna happen.
Such a shame.

Damn I love to watch that guy lay the lumber.
;D

COJOMAY
11-29-2007, 11:51 AM
Randall McDaniel and Gary Zimmerman are also among the 26 semifinalists