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singersp
09-21-2007, 07:46 AM
Sid Hartman: Longwell has faith in another ex-Packer (http://www.startribune.com/507/story/1436677.html)

Ryan Longwell said he believes that receiver Robert Ferguson, the latest former Green Bay player now with the Vikings, can be a big-time contributor.

By Sid Hartman, Star Tribune

Last update: September 21, 2007 – 12:12 AM

Prophet
09-21-2007, 08:00 AM
That story is about as touching as Jeffrey Dahmer's Mom crying and pleading that her son was innocent after his arrest.

vikingivan
09-21-2007, 08:03 AM
At least he has one supporter.

CCthebest
09-21-2007, 10:03 AM
But does anyone have faith in longwell? He already missed a game winning field goal the second game in the season. Yeah i know it was a long one but good kickers will make it when a game is on the line. Btw, Fergie sucks. Still has cheese crumbs in his hair.

gregair13
09-21-2007, 10:25 AM
well thats nice. because i sure don't have faith

purpleFavreEaters
09-21-2007, 10:45 AM
Like a place kicker who never practiced with the guys in Green Bay or even Minnesota would ahve anything reavant to say about this other than typical positive team chatter for his teammate who he happened to play with in Geen Bay and the media believes would know something about him outside of the normal that no one else would know. Pretty ammusing.

COJOMAY
09-21-2007, 11:08 AM
So Ferguson come in and all of us put it down as a stupid thing to get him. "He'll never be any good" was the chant here on PP.O.
So he doesn't do well and now everyone is surprised and MAD?
???

Marrdro
09-21-2007, 11:14 AM
Longwell might have faith but after watching him I don't.


Lets hope ole Ferggie comes through this weekend if he is still out there playing and taking reps away from Rice and AA.
::)

cajunvike
09-21-2007, 12:01 PM
Until he has to throw a pass to Fergie and Fergie drops it...spoiling Longwell's passer rating...LOL

PAvikesfan
09-21-2007, 12:44 PM
wow, i might be the only one chiming in on fergeson's side here.
the first pass thrown his way on sunday, dropped.
But then every horrible under or overthrown pass from tavarcrap he hauled in.
He has made great catch, tough catches over his career with the pack...except the last two seasons when they practically benched him.

I think he will make good contributions to this team...
more so than any of our TE's and be more clutch than any of our receivers, which might not be saying much.
but i think it is the truth.
now, will he have a TD a game, no.
Will have three catches, 2 of which are for first downs, probably.

jessejames09
09-21-2007, 12:55 PM
"PAvikesfan" wrote:


wow, i might be the only one chiming in on fergeson's side here.
the first pass thrown his way on sunday, dropped.
But then every horrible under or overthrown pass from tavarcrap he hauled in.
He has made great catch, tough catches over his career with the pack...except the last two seasons when they practically benched him.

I think he will make good contributions to this team...
more so than any of our TE's and be more clutch than any of our receivers, which might not be saying much.
but i think it is the truth.
now, will he have a TD a game, no.
Will have three catches, 2 of which are for first downs, probably.


Re-read that. He knows what he's talking about.

DustinDupont
09-21-2007, 12:58 PM
i would still rather see rice in there

PAvikesfan
09-21-2007, 01:03 PM
"DustinDupont" wrote:


i would still rather see rice in there


I would rather get first downs....
and also would like to see rice.
let's see, why is it that when ferguson plays, rice doesn't?
it makes no sense.
I think Rice has the ability to be a great #2 receiver.

BadlandsVikings
09-21-2007, 01:41 PM
I was expeecting this to be an onion article.

jargomcfargo
09-21-2007, 02:03 PM
"Prophet" wrote:


That story is about as touching as Jeffrey Dahmer's Mom crying and pleading that her son was innocent after his arrest.


Naturally she would. He saved her a ton on grocery bills.

Hopefully the Vikings find a way to see some positive in Ferguson.

Marrdro
09-21-2007, 05:43 PM
"jargomcfargo" wrote:


"Prophet" wrote:


That story is about as touching as Jeffrey Dahmer's Mom crying and pleading that her son was innocent after his arrest.


Naturally she would. He saved her a ton on grocery bills.

Hopefully the Vikings find a way to see some positive in Ferguson.

I don't see how.
;D

I'm still a bit peeved at the guy on here who convinced me that he would help out at the WR position and help out with K/PR's.
;D

Ranger
09-21-2007, 06:29 PM
"Marrdro" wrote:


"jargomcfargo" wrote:


"Prophet" wrote:


That story is about as touching as Jeffrey Dahmer's Mom crying and pleading that her son was innocent after his arrest.


Naturally she would. He saved her a ton on grocery bills.

Hopefully the Vikings find a way to see some positive in Ferguson.

I don't see how.

;D

I'm still a bit peeved at the guy on here who convinced me that he would help out at the WR position and help out with K/PR's.

;D


Ha!
He aint exactly gonna' hurt our passing attack.

Marrdro
09-21-2007, 06:31 PM
"Ranger" wrote:


"Marrdro" wrote:


"jargomcfargo" wrote:


"Prophet" wrote:


That story is about as touching as Jeffrey Dahmer's Mom crying and pleading that her son was innocent after his arrest.


Naturally she would. He saved her a ton on grocery bills.

Hopefully the Vikings find a way to see some positive in Ferguson.

I don't see how.

;D

I'm still a bit peeved at the guy on here who convinced me that he would help out at the WR position and help out with K/PR's.

;D


Ha!
He aint exactly gonna' hurt our passing attack.

I guess your right, especially since our OL can't pass block long enough for the QB to get anything more than a 1 step drop.
;D

Ranger
09-21-2007, 06:33 PM
"Marrdro" wrote:


"Ranger" wrote:


"Marrdro" wrote:


"jargomcfargo" wrote:


"Prophet" wrote:


That story is about as touching as Jeffrey Dahmer's Mom crying and pleading that her son was innocent after his arrest.


Naturally she would. He saved her a ton on grocery bills.

Hopefully the Vikings find a way to see some positive in Ferguson.

I don't see how.

;D

I'm still a bit peeved at the guy on here who convinced me that he would help out at the WR position and help out with K/PR's.

;D


Ha!
He aint exactly gonna' hurt our passing attack.

I guess your right, especially since our OL can't pass block long enough for the QB to get anything more than a 1 step drop.

;D


That offensive line stuff confuses the hell outta me.
Birk is great, it's a fact.
Hutch is an animal and the best guard I've seen in the last decade.
McKinnie is decent.
So, that leaves me wondering...WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON?!

COJOMAY
09-21-2007, 06:50 PM
"Ranger" wrote:


"Marrdro" wrote:


"Ranger" wrote:


"Marrdro" wrote:


"jargomcfargo" wrote:




That story is about as touching as Jeffrey Dahmer's Mom crying and pleading that her son was innocent after his arrest.


Naturally she would. He saved her a ton on grocery bills.

Hopefully the Vikings find a way to see some positive in Ferguson.

I don't see how.
;D

I'm still a bit peeved at the guy on here who convinced me that he would help out at the WR position and help out with K/PR's.
;D


Ha!
He aint exactly gonna' hurt our passing attack.

I guess your right, especially since our OL can't pass block long enough for the QB to get anything more than a 1 step drop.
;D


That offensive line stuff confuses the hell outta me.
Birk is great, it's a fact.
Hutch is an animal and the best guard I've seen in the last decade.
McKinnie is decent.
So, that leaves me wondering...WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON?!

Cook?????

Ranger
09-21-2007, 06:56 PM
"COJOMAY" wrote:


"Ranger" wrote:


"Marrdro" wrote:


"Ranger" wrote:


"Marrdro" wrote:






That story is about as touching as Jeffrey Dahmer's Mom crying and pleading that her son was innocent after his arrest.


Naturally she would. He saved her a ton on grocery bills.

Hopefully the Vikings find a way to see some positive in Ferguson.

I don't see how.

;D

I'm still a bit peeved at the guy on here who convinced me that he would help out at the WR position and help out with K/PR's.

;D


Ha!
He aint exactly gonna' hurt our passing attack.

I guess your right, especially since our OL can't pass block long enough for the QB to get anything more than a 1 step drop.

;D


That offensive line stuff confuses the hell outta me.
Birk is great, it's a fact.
Hutch is an animal and the best guard I've seen in the last decade.
McKinnie is decent.
So, that leaves me wondering...WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON?!

Cook?????


Is he that bad?

Jereamiah
09-21-2007, 06:57 PM
"COJOMAY" wrote:


"Ranger" wrote:


"Marrdro" wrote:


"Ranger" wrote:


"Marrdro" wrote:






That story is about as touching as Jeffrey Dahmer's Mom crying and pleading that her son was innocent after his arrest.


Naturally she would. He saved her a ton on grocery bills.

Hopefully the Vikings find a way to see some positive in Ferguson.

I don't see how.

;D

I'm still a bit peeved at the guy on here who convinced me that he would help out at the WR position and help out with K/PR's.

;D


Ha!
He aint exactly gonna' hurt our passing attack.

I guess your right, especially since our OL can't pass block long enough for the QB to get anything more than a 1 step drop.

;D


That offensive line stuff confuses the hell outta me.
Birk is great, it's a fact.
Hutch is an animal and the best guard I've seen in the last decade.
McKinnie is decent.
So, that leaves me wondering...WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON?!

Cook?????
Cook? exactly. I am all for starting Herrera!! After all, i do have his autograph. (I'm his only fan) ;D

Marrdro
09-23-2007, 07:56 AM
"Ranger" wrote:


"COJOMAY" wrote:


"Ranger" wrote:


"Marrdro" wrote:


"Ranger" wrote:








That story is about as touching as Jeffrey Dahmer's Mom crying and pleading that her son was innocent after his arrest.


Naturally she would. He saved her a ton on grocery bills.

Hopefully the Vikings find a way to see some positive in Ferguson.

I don't see how.

;D

I'm still a bit peeved at the guy on here who convinced me that he would help out at the WR position and help out with K/PR's.

;D


Ha!
He aint exactly gonna' hurt our passing attack.

I guess your right, especially since our OL can't pass block long enough for the QB to get anything more than a 1 step drop.

;D


That offensive line stuff confuses the hell outta me.
Birk is great, it's a fact.
Hutch is an animal and the best guard I've seen in the last decade.
McKinnie is decent.
So, that leaves me wondering...WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON?!

Cook?????


Is he that bad?

I don't care how good Birk and Hutch are or were.
Go back and take a look at the Lions game.
Both of them got beat repeatedly.
In fact, Birk missed several blocks allowing a free man into the backfield.

I am not sure whats going on however, I vote for firing the OL Coach first.
If that don't fix it fire the next guy in charge.
If that don't work go for the next one.


That should get somebodies head out of thier ass.
;D

singersp
09-23-2007, 08:34 AM
"Marrdro" wrote:



I don't care how good Birk and Hutch are or were.
Go back and take a look at the Lions game.
Both of them got beat repeatedly.
In fact, Birk missed several blocks allowing a free man into the backfield.

I am not sure whats going on however, I vote for firing the OL Coach first.
If that don't fix it fire the next guy in charge.
If that don't work go for the next one.



That should get somebodies head out of thier ass.
;D


Could it be that the OL blocking scheme is so complicated that even are vets are confused yet?

It was said last year that it was complicated & would take a year to grasp.

Yet here we are 18 regular season games, 8 preseason games, 2 training camps & several OTA's & minicamps later & our line still
doesn't "get it".

Meanwhile GB throws a bunch of rookies on the line last year & are protecting Favre just fine after a handful of games last year. I believe they even have more rookies on the line this year.

Favre had all day to throw against us last year & he seems to be getting a lot of time this year as well.

Marrdro
09-23-2007, 08:40 AM
"singersp" wrote:


"Marrdro" wrote:



I don't care how good Birk and Hutch are or were.
Go back and take a look at the Lions game.
Both of them got beat repeatedly.
In fact, Birk missed several blocks allowing a free man into the backfield.

I am not sure whats going on however, I vote for firing the OL Coach first.
If that don't fix it fire the next guy in charge.
If that don't work go for the next one.



That should get somebodies head out of thier jiggly butt.
;D


Could it be that the OL blocking scheme is so complicated that even are vets are confused yet?

It was said last year that it was complicated & would take a year to grasp.

Yet here we are 18 regular season games, 8 preseason games, 2 training camps & several OTA's & minicamps later & our line still
doesn't "get it".

Meanwhile GB throws a bunch of rookies on the line last year & are protecting Favre just fine after a handful of games last year. I believe they even have more rookies on the line this year.

Favre had all day to throw against us last year & he seems to be getting a lot of time this year as well.

I believe I was the biggest voice when it came to the whole issue that it would take time but damn.
They should have it down enough to at least be a bit more consistent.

The lions were in our backfield on almost every play.
We'd better start looking for Backup QB's and RB's because we are gonna loose a bunch of em to injury this year as a result of our OL issues.
;D

singersp
09-23-2007, 09:02 AM
"Marrdro" wrote:


"singersp" wrote:


"Marrdro" wrote:



I don't care how good Birk and Hutch are or were.
Go back and take a look at the Lions game.
Both of them got beat repeatedly.
In fact, Birk missed several blocks allowing a free man into the backfield.

I am not sure whats going on however, I vote for firing the OL Coach first.
If that don't fix it fire the next guy in charge.
If that don't work go for the next one.



That should get somebodies head out of thier jiggly butt.
;D


Could it be that the OL blocking scheme is so complicated that even are vets are confused yet?

It was said last year that it was complicated & would take a year to grasp.

Yet here we are 18 regular season games, 8 preseason games, 2 training camps & several OTA's & minicamps later & our line still
doesn't "get it".

Meanwhile GB throws a bunch of rookies on the line last year & are protecting Favre just fine after a handful of games last year. I believe they even have more rookies on the line this year.

Favre had all day to throw against us last year & he seems to be getting a lot of time this year as well.

I believe I was the biggest voice when it came to the whole issue that it would take time but damn.
They should have it down enough to at least be a bit more consistent.
The lions were in our backfield on almost every play.
We'd better start looking for Backup QB's and RB's because we are gonna loose a bunch of em to injury this year as a result of our OL issues.

;D


They are consistant. They are consistantly allowing opponents thru the line.
;)

Purple Floyd
09-23-2007, 09:11 AM
The line will have everything ironed out within the next 3 years.

singersp
09-23-2007, 09:33 AM
"UffDaVikes" wrote:


The line will have everything ironed out within the next 3 years.


I believe you are being sarcastic, but.................

Any rookie/2nd year player we have on the line now, will be a FA in less than 3 years.

Where will Birk be in 3 years?

tb04512
09-23-2007, 09:37 AM
"singersp" wrote:


"UffDaVikes" wrote:


The line will have everything ironed out within the next 3 years.


I believe you are being sarcastic, but.................

Any rookie/2nd year player we have on the line now, will be a FA in less than 3 years.

Where will Birk be in 3 years?


a server at matty b's
;D

Purple Floyd
09-23-2007, 03:37 PM
"singersp" wrote:


"UffDaVikes" wrote:


The line will have everything ironed out within the next 3 years.


I believe you are being sarcastic, but.................

Any rookie/2nd year player we have on the line now, will be a FA in less than 3 years.

Where will Birk be in 3 years?


I was ;D

However, unless we start canning some of the coaching staff and actually bringing in linemen who can pass block I don't see it happening any faster than that.