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packmanxxxi
11-14-2004, 07:43 PM
Excellent game. Pack won like the should have, but the Vikes showed some heart... Nice comeback! Look forward to talking with ya'll....

FIRST PLACE PACKERS BABY!!!!

VikingsTw
11-14-2004, 07:46 PM
Yeah you guys did well but you had a big boost. Your running game did well and Favre still showed he's got what it takes.

packmanxxxi
11-14-2004, 07:47 PM
Yeah- I thought it was just a classic NFC Norse battle... sucked for both groups of fans, but as a straight football game, even I can say close to a classic....

dart18
11-14-2004, 07:47 PM
wow i am suprised you werent more of an ass im proud. We deserved to lose that game because we played like crap for three quarters. Daunte was the only one keeping us in the game because the defense was not. and our Bennett proved again that he is the worst punter in the nfl maybe we need our rookie from last year back. Congrads and enjoy the lead we'll see how you all can do with your hard schedule coming up. Good luck to you but dont think this is over it is a long year and we will have more on the line on christmas day because eventually we will learn what defense is and will be there in the end to take our division back

packmanxxxi
11-14-2004, 07:50 PM
FAR from over... no need to be an ass, I know a good game when I see one... I thought it was gonna be another classic Packer collapse, but they prevailed...

Just a question though... maybe you can be as honest as I am... isnt this incredibly disheartening for the Vikes? Memories of last year or no? I dont see them recovering... but with the weak NFC they will make the playoffs at 9-7

MossWilliamsHenderson
11-14-2004, 07:50 PM
"packmanxxxi" wrote:

Excellent game. Pack won like the should have, but the Vikes showed some heart... Nice comeback! Look forward to talking with ya'll....

FIRST PLACE PACKERS BABY!!!!

Thanks for showing class, congrats on the win, good game, only if our defense was better, the outcome could possibly been different! See ya at the dome! At least we had a good comeback! Leaving too much time on the clock was a huge mistake!

packmanxxxi
11-14-2004, 07:52 PM
I think the mostake was more the return (regardless of the fumble) I think your lack of a deep kicker cost you a game...

eastcoastvikes
11-14-2004, 07:53 PM
No this is nowhere near last year! They just played two of the best teams in the league on the road and lost on last second field goals two weeks in a row, I wouldn't exactly call that a collapse.. oh yeah by the way neither of those teams had to cover Moss. The Pack better hope the Vikes collapse because if they don't it will be a long Christmas Eve for Green Bay

GopherAndPackFan
11-14-2004, 07:54 PM
Despite my other thread in Trash the Pack, which was directed at only the arrogant Vike fans, I'm trying to show some class too. Daunte had me scared as hell those last few minutes, but Longwell is just automatic in those situations.

Overall, great game, looking forward to the dome.

packmanxxxi
11-14-2004, 07:54 PM
We'll see :) but after being 1-4 you have to admit the Packers are the better team... right now...

GBMiah
11-14-2004, 07:54 PM
Definitely a big ups to the Vikings. they had me worried for a bit. Culpepper is a legend in the making. This week and last week proves that the Vikings O can get it done without Moss. Lots of bad calls went both ways, I think it was a combination of just horrible execution on defense combined with the fact that the Vikes have an explosive Offense that allowed the Vikings to crawl into it. It was a win, and you cant really fault the Packers D, for giving up 31. It is the Vikes after all. This division will go down to the wire again.

GopherAndPackFan
11-14-2004, 07:55 PM
"eastcoastvikes" wrote:

No this is nowhere near last year! They just played two of the best teams in the league on the road and lost on last second field goals two weeks in a row, I wouldn't exactly call that a collapse.. oh yeah by the way neither of those teams had to cover Moss. The Pack better hope the Vikes collapse because if they don't it will be a long Christmas Eve for Green Bay

Dude, stop talking trash for a little bit. You lost, we won, no reason that you should be talking like that right now.

VikingsTw
11-14-2004, 07:55 PM
"packmanxxxi" wrote:

Yeah- I thought it was just a classic NFC Norse battle... sucked for both groups of fans, but as a straight football game, even I can say close to a classic....

This wasn't a straight football game and you know it.

packmanxxxi
11-14-2004, 07:56 PM
well, bad call on the 4th and one spot and bad call on the last fumble.. BOTH game changing playes.... what can ya say...

but if you want to whine like Cully did on his spot for a first down, go ahead, stomp your feet... whine...

the respectable viking fans will discuss, not whine and make excuses...

PhxFan
11-14-2004, 07:57 PM
"packmanxxxi" wrote:

Excellent game. Pack won like the should have, but the Vikes showed some heart... Nice comeback! Look forward to talking with ya'll....

FIRST PLACE PACKERS BABY!!!!
Was a good game, we definitely lacked in D, but did show some heart in the 4th. I wouldn't feel bad about losing this one...other than bad refs. I feel we coulda/shoulda had this one! http://smilies.jeeptalk.org/contrib/lynx/prplsad.gif

NeoVikesTX
11-14-2004, 07:57 PM
"packmanxxxi" wrote:

I think the mostake was more the return (regardless of the fumble) I think your lack of a deep kicker cost you a game...

Yes, Jose Cortez will be back at Fed Ex next week. I don't understand why they didn't just let Morten Andersen kick them off, he can do it better than Jose "Girly Leg" Cortez can.

We need to find a new kicker and fast. When did we ever think we would miss Aaron Elling? :scratch:

eastcoastvikes
11-14-2004, 07:57 PM
"packmanxxxi" wrote:

We'll see :) but after being 1-4 you have to admit the Packers are the better team... right now...

I don't necessarily think we have to admit that... again I hate to say this because I don't want to sound whiny, however if not for that fumble call the Vikings likely win and have a two game lead in the division, the fact is Green Bay won the game so credit to them but we will see how long that lead lasts. Green Bay has the toughest part of their schedule left and Minnesota is through theirs. Good luck the rest of the way and I look forward to watching Minnesota smack the pack around in the dome

packmanxxxi
11-14-2004, 07:58 PM
I AGREE with the fumble call in the end... BUT, rewind back to the 4th and 1 bad spot and who knows what happens...

VikingsTw
11-14-2004, 08:02 PM
The RB's momentum was stopped once his momentum is stopped, thats where the ball is placed. The refs REVIEWED it, and called it right.

GBMiah
11-14-2004, 08:12 PM
The play is stopped when the whistle blows, no matter which way the ball carrier was going. He was clearly well beyond the first down when the whistle blew. but the refs are not to be blamed for that call because if they cant see, they have to guess. Same thing with the late fumble. Clearly it looked like Ross had it, but it doesnt matter if the refs dont see that. They have to wait until the pile is cleared, players and coaches know this, and fumble drills are practiced with this in mind. Ross was unable to keep it in the melee, therefore... Packers ball. Both instances were insane bad luck on both sides.

eastcoastvikes
11-14-2004, 08:14 PM
Clearly it looked like Ross had it, but it doesnt matter if the refs dont see that. They have to wait until the pile is cleared, players and coaches know this, and fumble drills are practiced with this in mind. Ross was unable to keep it in the melee, therefore... Packers ball. Both instances were insane bad luck on both sides.[/quote]

Not going to disagree with you there, except for one thing, when they cleared the pile the Vikes had it! How did they make that call is my question?

VikingsTw
11-14-2004, 08:15 PM
Your right he was unable to keep it so Larry Ned came out with it, if you havnt notice NED #28 plays for the vikings. That should = Vikings ball right??? Wrong not when your playing the refs.

GBMiah
11-14-2004, 08:19 PM
I saw that also, but obviously the Packers must have had it. Do you really think the refs are going to blatantly lie and call it for GB directly in front of the Vikings? If that were the case you would have seen some Vikings absolutely blow there tops. What probably happened was the ref called it on the field were we couldnt hear it (before the signal) and the packers immediatly went into celebration mode. Which ever packer had the ball probably started celebrating and no longer continued to try and hold the ball.

VikingsTw
11-14-2004, 08:26 PM
Your wrong dude, and yes i do expect that from the refs. So i probably shouldnt be so shocked, this is a never ending story.

NeoVikesTX
11-14-2004, 08:28 PM
"GBMiah" wrote:

I saw that also, but obviously the Packers must have had it. Do you really think the refs are going to blatantly lie and call it for GB directly in front of the Vikings? If that were the case you would have seen some Vikings absolutely blow there tops. What probably happened was the ref called it on the field were we couldnt hear it (before the signal) and the packers immediatly went into celebration mode. Which ever packer had the ball probably started celebrating and no longer continued to try and hold the ball.

Oh yeah, clearly that's what happened! More like the refs blew the call and cost the Vikings the game. It's funny how Packers fans can't even come up with a logical reason why the Packers got the ball on that fumble. Hope the refs get called out on this one after the game.

eastcoastvikes
11-14-2004, 08:30 PM
I think Mike Tice said it best at his press conference I don't have a transcript so I am paraphrasing here "I don't know what happened we had the ball, well they got the ball so I guess we didnt have the ball, I guess I just saw a myth."

SacredStar
11-14-2004, 08:37 PM
The refs have sucked all season in most games I have watched. Something has to be done to correct this, alot of teams have been critical of the officiating this entire season.

Some of those bad calls/noncalls have directly affected game outcomes and you really have to wonder if the end result is preplanned.

Conspiracy theory or not, I feel that if the refs are paid full time all year long and have retraining the entire offseason, that will improve the situation. They have to make officiating a full time job year around.

I know it sucks to feel jobbed by the refs, but the bottom line is that every team has to overcome the bad calls/noncalls and not put themselves in a situation to lose by a refs mistake. The refs are human and are bound to error in judgement. Sometimes it works out for your team, other times it doesn't.

packmanxxxi
11-14-2004, 08:39 PM
The refs arent full time... or at least they werent just a few years back (does anyone know for sure?) They are all part time...

SacredStar
11-14-2004, 08:40 PM
"packmanxxxi" wrote:

The refs arent full time... or at least they werent just a few years back (does anyone know for sure?) They are all part time...

They are not full time.....I was suggesting that they should be full time to improve the overall professionalism of that job.

packmanxxxi
11-14-2004, 08:42 PM
ohhh, i re-read it... my bad... thanks for the clarification... and in hindsight i agree with you

Viking_Spirit
11-14-2004, 08:44 PM
Kudos to the Pack......you guys played a good game.

We're gonna win the divison. This will not be a repeat of last year.

LosAngelis
11-14-2004, 09:43 PM
I'll be honest, packman, I don't know if the packers are the "superior" team right now.

This is two games in a row we almost gave up a game after dominating most of it. And, some would argue we got a call the helped us win in both.

I also think that Moss changes the entire complexion of the Vikings and how defenses play them. If he returns at full strength, you can take the Vikes up a notch.

That said, record wise, you have to say we're even, and to be honest, almost mirror images of each other.

Hot QB that makes mistakes
Fleet of able bodied RBs
One great WR that wears #84.
Some decent (yet inconsistent) WRs to compliment
OLine is decent for both teams (maybe slight advantage to Packers)
Struggling defenses with good individuals, but recurring problems with coverages and tackling.
Cletidus Hunt = Chris Hovan
Good young linebackers
DLine unable to get consistent pressure
Inconsistent DBs (slight advantage to Vikes)
Occasional bone-headed coaching

I would say we're pretty darn even right now. Packers are "hotter", for certain, but we both play 4-5 teams next week. Let's see how that pans out.

Toss2Moss84
11-14-2004, 09:44 PM
That was also a nice call of intentional grounding on Daunte. WTF was up with that? These refs were awesome.

XTAP59
11-14-2004, 09:47 PM
"packmanxxxi" wrote:

Excellent game. Pack won like the should have, but the Vikes showed some heart... Nice comeback! Look forward to talking with ya'll....

FIRST PLACE PACKERS BABY!!!!

I knew we scored with too much time on the clock at the end of the game. It gave favre enough time to bring the team back. And with our terrible kick so called kick off specialist and terrible special teams, the pack had the ball in good field position with two time outs remaining. I knew favre would bring them downfield.

See you Xmas Eve....

XTAP59
11-14-2004, 09:49 PM
"packmanxxxi" wrote:

FAR from over... no need to be an ass, I know a good game when I see one... I thought it was gonna be another classic Packer collapse, but they prevailed...

Just a question though... maybe you can be as honest as I am... isnt this incredibly disheartening for the Vikes? Memories of last year or no? I dont see them recovering... but with the weak NFC they will make the playoffs at 9-7

Randy Moss is on the sidelines. Without him, the Vikes score an average 10 points less per game. When he returns in two weeks, we will be alright.

hovan
11-14-2004, 11:20 PM
"packmanxxxi" wrote:

FAR from over... no need to be an ass, I know a good game when I see one... I thought it was gonna be another classic Packer collapse, but they prevailed...

Just a question though... maybe you can be as honest as I am... isnt this incredibly disheartening for the Vikes? Memories of last year or no? I dont see them recovering... but with the weak NFC they will make the playoffs at 9-7

To you and all of the Other DIMWITS who have been talking about Collapse, MOSS is NOT PLAYING!!!

cajunvike
11-15-2004, 02:26 AM
"GopherAndPackFan" wrote:

"eastcoastvikes" wrote:

No this is nowhere near last year! They just played two of the best teams in the league on the road and lost on last second field goals two weeks in a row, I wouldn't exactly call that a collapse.. oh yeah by the way neither of those teams had to cover Moss. The Pack better hope the Vikes collapse because if they don't it will be a long Christmas Eve for Green Bay

Dude, stop talking trash for a little bit. You lost, we won, no reason that you should be talking like that right now.

What eastcoastvikes said is not trash...this is trash:

The refs gave the game to the Packers. Carroll "Roasted Chicken" sucks ass. The Packer secondary has more holes than Swiss Cheese.

That would be trash!