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Marrdro
04-26-2007, 01:46 PM
Hopefully this is the right place as it appears that the ones I want input from are HOF'rs.

Gonna start working arrangements to come home for a game this year.
:o

Really want to get to meet a few of you at the event (Tailgaiting Baby).

What game is the best for all of you?


Things I am factoring into my decision:

a.
Weather.
Tam and I are pretty much Southern Sissies when it comes to the cold.
;D
Don't mind the rain, but Wildwomen wants to come to one of the first few home games. Again, intent is to come party with the PPO Tailgaiters if you'll have us.
;D
b.
You Guys/Gals.
Do the most of you go to all the games? Is there something planned by PPO that is best to meet most of you.
I know Singers Wedding is still not finalized (that would be most excellent).
c.
Don't want a free ride.
I can consume massive quantities of Barley Pop.
Who should I send beer/food money to?
It will be me and Tam as well as my Mother/Father in law.

I for one, would like to come home to the GB game on the 30th of Sep but would come to any of the first 4 home games (Sep 9 Atlanta/Sep 30 GB/Oct 28 Philly/Nov 4 San Diego).

Thoughts?

Marty

Prophet
04-26-2007, 05:55 PM
I would love to meet you, probably another time though since if I go to a home game it will be later in the season...probably will only hit an away game this year.
Have fun, a lot of fun folks to hang out with here.

Webby
04-26-2007, 05:57 PM
"Marrdro" wrote:


Hopefully this is the right place as it appears that the ones I want input from are HOF'rs.

Gonna start working arrangements to come home for a game this year.
:o

Really want to get to meet a few of you at the event (Tailgaiting Baby).

What game is the best for all of you?


Things I am factoring into my decision:

a.
Weather.
Tam and I are pretty much Southern Sissies when it comes to the cold.
;D
Don't mind the rain, but Wildwomen wants to come to one of the first few home games. Again, intent is to come party with the PPO Tailgaiters if you'll have us.
;D
b.
You Guys/Gals.
Do the most of you go to all the games? Is there something planned by PPO that is best to meet most of you.
I know Singers Wedding is still not finalized (that would be most excellent).
c.
Don't want a free ride.
I can consume massive quantities of Barley Pop.
Who should I send beer/food money to?
It will be me and Tam as well as my Mother/Father in law.

I for one, would like to come home to the GB game on the 30th of Sep but would come to any of the first 4 home games (Sep 9 Atlanta/Sep 30 GB/Oct 28 Philly/Nov 4 San Diego).

Thoughts?

Marty



Time to break out the beer truck.
I think I heard a challenge in there!

BadlandsVikings
04-26-2007, 06:06 PM
I'm in favor of a get together for the Green Bay game.

Marrdro
04-27-2007, 06:57 AM
I checked last night.
Tickets are avail for all 4 games.
Some in section 213 lower rows appear to be the best ones for GB game.
I think that is about were I sat for the Broncos game a few years ago.

Beer Truck?
:o Challenge?
:o Hang on........ ;D

singersp
04-27-2007, 07:09 AM
The Green Bay game would be the best. Experiencing a Viking game is a great experience, especially if it's your first game, but it doesn't get any more excellent than a regular season Vikings - Green Bay game.

You could always send the beer money to me. I don't drink so I'm the least likely person to drink your supply.
;)

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b21/singersp82759/PPO%20Tailgating/PPO.jpg

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b21/singersp82759/PPO%20Tailgating/WBL102305.jpg

As far as food goes, anyone can pick that up fo you. I have a great source for beef stix & I'll be bringing some to that game.

Just a word of caution, don't let WBL cook for you.
;)

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b21/singersp82759/PPO%20Tailgating/P6.jpg

whackthepack
04-27-2007, 02:16 PM
speaking of WBL haven't seen her on in awhile anybody heard from her?

cogitans
04-27-2007, 02:21 PM
"whackthepack" wrote:


speaking of WBL haven't seen her on in awhile anybody heard from her?


She was on briefly at what would have been late last night US time.

I've seen her from time to time, just taking a quick look around, not speaking much. Sometimes just a hi and bye in the yell.

But I believe we'll see her again come football season time.

NodakPaul
04-27-2007, 02:27 PM
Definitely the GB game.
It is early enough in the season that the weather should be decent, and it is the best game to go to anyway.

I am bringing my dad to that game too.
I normally hit the bars instead of tailgate because of the transportation thing, but will definately make an exception for a PP.O gathering.

Marrdro
04-27-2007, 02:35 PM
"NodakPaul" wrote:


Definitely the GB game.
It is early enough in the season that the weather should be decent, and it is the best game to go to anyway.

I am bringing my dad to that game too.
I normally hit the bars instead of tailgate because of the transportation thing, but will definately make an exception for a PP.O gathering.

Nodack.
Glad you replied.
Definately want to party with you
;D Looks like it is gonna be the GB game for us.
Need to check work schedule one more time and flights/hotel.

The game we came home for last (Broncos) we stayed at a hotel within walking distance.
Just had to stagger back.

Of course I had to hit a construction zone to let out a few beers.
Wildwoman wasn't to happy over that one ;D

singersp
04-27-2007, 02:36 PM
"whackthepack" wrote:


speaking of WBL haven't seen her on in awhile anybody heard from her?


Yep. Let's just say the Wild isn't the only thing she's wild about.
;)

AngloVike
04-27-2007, 03:56 PM
"singersp" wrote:


The Green Bay game would be the best. Experiencing a Viking game is a great experience, especially if it's your first game, but it doesn't get any more excellent than a regular season Vikings - Green Bay game.


I'd have to agree with Singer on this - the atmosphere at a Vikes game is good but there is something extra about playing the Pack... course beating them just adds that extra sparkle to things
;D ;D
I know PacNWVike and Cajun are looking at being at the GB game so there is a good chance of there being a PP.O gathering - thats too good an opportunity to miss !

cajunvike
04-27-2007, 04:51 PM
"AngloVike" wrote:


"singersp" wrote:


The Green Bay game would be the best. Experiencing a Viking game is a great experience, especially if it's your first game, but it doesn't get any more excellent than a regular season Vikings - Green Bay game.


I'd have to agree with Singer on this - the atmosphere at a Vikes game is good but there is something extra about playing the Pack... course beating them just adds that extra sparkle to things
;D ;D
I know PacNWVike and Cajun are looking at being at the GB game so there is a good chance of there being a PP.O gathering - thats too good an opportunity to miss !


So get your ass over the pond and to Minny then!!!
;D

cajunvike
04-27-2007, 04:52 PM
"singersp" wrote:


"whackthepack" wrote:


speaking of WBL haven't seen her on in awhile anybody heard from her?


Yep. Let's just say the Wild isn't the only thing she's wild about.
;)


Are you saying that the Girl (WBL) has Gone Wild?
:D

cajunvike
04-27-2007, 04:54 PM
"Marrdro" wrote:


"NodakPaul" wrote:


Definitely the GB game.
It is early enough in the season that the weather should be decent, and it is the best game to go to anyway.

I am bringing my dad to that game too.
I normally hit the bars instead of tailgate because of the transportation thing, but will definately make an exception for a PP.O gathering.

Nodack.
Glad you replied.
Definately want to party with you
;D Looks like it is gonna be the GB game for us.
Need to check work schedule one more time and flights/hotel.

The game we came home for last (Broncos) we stayed at a hotel within walking distance.
Just had to stagger back.

Of course I had to hit a construction zone to let out a few beers.
Wildwoman wasn't to happy over that one ;D




She just didn't want you advertising...IYKWIM!
:D

AngloVike
04-28-2007, 05:30 PM
"cajunvike" wrote:


"AngloVike" wrote:


"singersp" wrote:


The Green Bay game would be the best. Experiencing a Viking game is a great experience, especially if it's your first game, but it doesn't get any more excellent than a regular season Vikings - Green Bay game.


I'd have to agree with Singer on this - the atmosphere at a Vikes game is good but there is something extra about playing the Pack... course beating them just adds that extra sparkle to things
;D ;D
I know PacNWVike and Cajun are looking at being at the GB game so there is a good chance of there being a PP.O gathering - thats too good an opportunity to miss !


So get your jiggly butt over the pond and to Minny then!!!
;D

oh we'll be over to Minny this year, just not for that game. As good as the £/$ rate is the flights are a lot cheaper in Oct/November

marcosMN
05-23-2007, 02:58 PM
Marr, we can figure out the details when it gets a little closer.

If we'll have enough people we should just get a Keg.

This is gonna be one hell of a party. I'm glad I finally made it to this forum so I can keep up with this stuff.

NodakPaul
05-23-2007, 03:01 PM
And welcome to the HoF SnoBum!
Gah, all this talk about getting together for the GB game is getting my blood pumping.
Looks like the last three hours of work are pretty much shot for me today. ;D

Marrdro
05-23-2007, 03:03 PM
Thanks Sno.

Found out today that I will have to work that weekend.
I am trying to swap exercise with another guy or at least see if he can support mine for the weekend.

My boss, yes I have one, isn't to happy with me right now.
I got real pissy with him today.
Maybe not a good thing.
;D

I will keep all informed of the effort.

NodakPaul
05-23-2007, 03:05 PM
Hope you get the weekend off Marrdro.
There is no other game like the GB game!
If you decide to go another weekend, make sure you let us know!

Marrdro
05-23-2007, 03:06 PM
"NodakPaul" wrote:


Hope you get the weekend off Marrdro.
There is no other game like the GB game!
If you decide to go another weekend, make sure you let us know!


The boss even went so far as to log onto the Vikes schedule someplace and give me alternate games.

I accused/accursed him of being a Packer fan.
Turns out he is.

Its ugly around here.
;D

NodakPaul
05-23-2007, 03:18 PM
"Marrdro" wrote:


"NodakPaul" wrote:


Hope you get the weekend off Marrdro.
There is no other game like the GB game!
If you decide to go another weekend, make sure you let us know!


The boss even went so far as to log onto the Vikes schedule someplace and give me alternate games.

I accused/accursed him of being a Packer fan.
Turns out he is.

Its ugly around here.
;D


I have the solution.
Invite him to come out too.
Then he can see how true football fans celebrate the game beforehand, and how we celebrate a win after.
He just isn't allowed to wear a stupid cheese head. ;D

We won't even moon him (well, I won't.
Can't speak for Zeus...).

Zeus
05-23-2007, 03:51 PM
"NodakPaul" wrote:


"Marrdro" wrote:


"NodakPaul" wrote:


Hope you get the weekend off Marrdro.
There is no other game like the GB game!
If you decide to go another weekend, make sure you let us know!


The boss even went so far as to log onto the Vikes schedule someplace and give me alternate games.

I accused/accursed him of being a Packer fan.
Turns out he is.

Its ugly around here.
;D


I have the solution.
Invite him to come out too.
Then he can see how true football fans celebrate the game beforehand, and how we celebrate a win after.
He just isn't allowed to wear a stupid cheese head. ;D

We won't even moon him (well, I won't.
Can't speak for Zeus...).


What little ass I have will be on full display, if the occasion merits.

=Z=

singersp
05-23-2007, 08:29 PM
"NodakPaul" wrote:


Hope you get the weekend off Marrdro.
There is no other game like the GB game!
If you decide to go another weekend, make sure you let us know!


Not to mention Caine will be up for that one.

singersp
05-26-2007, 01:35 AM
Not the best camera work, but this will give you some idea what the intro is like before the games.

I still get goosebumps during the intros.

http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=1403842714

AngloVike
05-28-2007, 03:24 PM
"singersp" wrote:


Not the best camera work, but this will give you some idea what the intro is like before the games.

I still get goosebumps during the intros.

I'm with you on that, always gets my blood pumping- one of the best parts of pre-game and then I know its time to rock

marcosMN
06-06-2007, 08:01 PM
Marrdro, any word?

Cassie and I are trying to plan ahead what game we're going to.

Not that I'm limiting myself to one, but she probably will. Unless she loves it.

Which is a strong possibility if we see an exciting game...

Webby
06-06-2007, 08:34 PM
Here's the intro at the Dome and on our homepage on gamedays!


http://www.purplepride.org/images/videos/vikingsasWebsite001.mov

Zeus
06-06-2007, 11:29 PM
"Webby" wrote:


Here's the intro at the Dome and on our homepage on gamedays! 

http://www.purplepride.org/images/videos/vikingsasWebsite001.mov


Is that the same music that is played with it at the Dome??  If so, I'm glad I can't really hear anything besides the drums at the games....

=Z=

Webby
06-06-2007, 11:31 PM
"Zeus" wrote:


"Webby" wrote:


Here's the intro at the Dome and on our homepage on gamedays!


http://www.purplepride.org/images/videos/vikingsasWebsite001.mov


Is that the same music that is played with it at the Dome??
If so, I'm glad I can't really here anything besides the drums at the games....

=Z=


welcome to the Dome sound system.

::)
Nooooo, we don't need a stadium...

Zeus
06-06-2007, 11:32 PM
"Webby" wrote:


"Zeus" wrote:


"Webby" wrote:


Here's the intro at the Dome and on our homepage on gamedays!


http://www.purplepride.org/images/videos/vikingsasWebsite001.mov


Is that the same music that is played with it at the Dome??
If so, I'm glad I can't really here anything besides the drums at the games....

=Z=


welcome to the Dome sound system.


::)

Nooooo, we don't need a stadium...


My point was - I'm GLAD the sound isn't good at the game, that music sucked donkey balls.

=Z=

Webby
06-06-2007, 11:34 PM
"Zeus" wrote:


"Webby" wrote:


"Zeus" wrote:


"Webby" wrote:


Here's the intro at the Dome and on our homepage on gamedays!


http://www.purplepride.org/images/videos/vikingsasWebsite001.mov


Is that the same music that is played with it at the Dome??
If so, I'm glad I can't really here anything besides the drums at the games....

=Z=


welcome to the Dome sound system.


::)

Nooooo, we don't need a stadium...


My point was - I'm GLAD the sound isn't good at the game, that music sucked donkey balls.

=Z=


Are you a true fan??
LMAO

Zeus
06-06-2007, 11:37 PM
"Webby" wrote:


"Zeus" wrote:


"Webby" wrote:


"Zeus" wrote:


"Webby" wrote:


Here's the intro at the Dome and on our homepage on gamedays!


http://www.purplepride.org/images/videos/vikingsasWebsite001.mov


Is that the same music that is played with it at the Dome??
If so, I'm glad I can't really here anything besides the drums at the games....

=Z=


welcome to the Dome sound system.


::)

Nooooo, we don't need a stadium...


My point was - I'm GLAD the sound isn't good at the game, that music sucked donkey balls.

=Z=


Are you a true fan??

LMAO


With the sound of the drums and the fans cheering, I'm plenty pumped up by the video....in your version, I was wondering what helmet was gonna get crushed!

True fan, indeed.
Do YOU know the words to "Bring in Da Hornz"?

=Z=

Webby
06-06-2007, 11:39 PM
"Zeus" wrote:


"Webby" wrote:


"Zeus" wrote:


"Webby" wrote:


"Zeus" wrote:




Here's the intro at the Dome and on our homepage on gamedays!


http://www.purplepride.org/images/videos/vikingsasWebsite001.mov


Is that the same music that is played with it at the Dome??
If so, I'm glad I can't really here anything besides the drums at the games....

=Z=


welcome to the Dome sound system.


::)

Nooooo, we don't need a stadium...


My point was - I'm GLAD the sound isn't good at the game, that music sucked donkey balls.

=Z=


Are you a true fan??

LMAO


With the sound of the drums and the fans cheering, I'm plenty pumped up by the video....in your version, I was wondering what helmet was gonna get crushed!

True fan, indeed.
Do YOU know the words to "Bring in Da Hornz"?

=Z=


No, I'm not a rainbow blower.

Zeus
06-06-2007, 11:42 PM
"Webby" wrote:


No, I'm not a rainbow blower.


This guy is....

http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j319/AWZeus/shock1.jpg

=Z=

singersp
06-07-2007, 12:20 AM
"Zeus" wrote:


"Webby" wrote:


"Zeus" wrote:


"Webby" wrote:


"Zeus" wrote:




Here's the intro at the Dome and on our homepage on gamedays!


http://www.purplepride.org/images/videos/vikingsasWebsite001.mov


Is that the same music that is played with it at the Dome??
If so, I'm glad I can't really here anything besides the drums at the games....

=Z=


welcome to the Dome sound system.


::)

Nooooo, we don't need a stadium...


My point was - I'm GLAD the sound isn't good at the game, that music sucked donkey balls.

=Z=


Are you a true fan??

LMAO


With the sound of the drums and the fans cheering, I'm plenty pumped up by the video....in your version, I was wondering what helmet was gonna get crushed!

True fan, indeed.
Do YOU know the words to "Bring in Da Hornz"?

=Z=


God I hate that song. You can't understand a single word they are saying. I hope last year was the last time they play that at the dome.

It fit right in with the theme of a lousy season though.

Zeus
06-07-2007, 08:23 AM
"singersp" wrote:


"Zeus" wrote:


True fan, indeed.
Do YOU know the words to "Bring in Da Hornz"?


God I hate that song. You can't understand a single word they are saying. I hope last year was the last time they play that at the dome.

It fit right in with the theme of a lousy season though.


You're not alone, Singer.
I, honestly, can't see any scenario where they play that crap again.
They *have* to have learned.

=Z=

Marrdro
06-07-2007, 08:27 AM
Quick update.


Talked to my boss Monday.
He is still a bit upset with me.
I still don't think he is a GB fan.
He is pretty old (50 or so) so maybe he will retire or something..... >:(

Anyway, doesn't look good for the GB game this year fellas.

Zeus
06-07-2007, 08:44 AM
"Marrdro" wrote:


Quick update.


Talked to my boss Monday.
He is still a bit upset with me.
I still don't think he is a GB fan.
He is pretty old (50 or so) so maybe he will retire or something..... >:(

Anyway, doesn't look good for the GB game this year fellas.


Why is he upset with you?
And why can't you take your effing vacation when you want?

=Z=

Marrdro
06-07-2007, 08:46 AM
"Zeus" wrote:


"Marrdro" wrote:


Quick update.


Talked to my boss Monday.
He is still a bit upset with me.
I still don't think he is a GB fan.
He is pretty old (50 or so) so maybe he will retire or something..... >:(

Anyway, doesn't look good for the GB game this year fellas.


Why is he upset with you?
And why can't you take your effing vacation when you want?

=Z=

I am the lead planner for a major training exercise for some people going to play in the sand box.

Zeus
06-07-2007, 08:47 AM
"Marrdro" wrote:


I am the lead planner for a major training exercise for some people going to play in the sand box.


And you're so vitally important that you can't miss a couple of days?

=Z=

NodakPaul
06-07-2007, 08:55 AM
"Zeus" wrote:


"Webby" wrote:


"Zeus" wrote:


"Webby" wrote:


Here's the intro at the Dome and on our homepage on gamedays!


http://www.purplepride.org/images/videos/vikingsasWebsite001.mov


Is that the same music that is played with it at the Dome??
If so, I'm glad I can't really here anything besides the drums at the games....

=Z=


welcome to the Dome sound system.

::)
Nooooo, we don't need a stadium...


My point was - I'm GLAD the sound isn't good at the game, that music sucked donkey balls.

=Z=


Holy pooh!
I love that music in the intro!
(I hated "Bring in Da Horns" though).

NodakPaul
06-07-2007, 08:55 AM
"Marrdro" wrote:


Quick update.


Talked to my boss Monday.
He is still a bit upset with me.
I still don't think he is a GB fan.
He is pretty old (50 or so) so maybe he will retire or something..... >:(

Anyway, doesn't look good for the GB game this year fellas.


So any other game in mind Marrdro?
MNF against the Bears should be pretty damn sweet too!

Marrdro
06-07-2007, 09:01 AM
"NodakPaul" wrote:


"Marrdro" wrote:


Quick update.


Talked to my boss Monday.
He is still a bit upset with me.
I still don't think he is a GB fan.
He is pretty old (50 or so) so maybe he will retire or something..... >:(

Anyway, doesn't look good for the GB game this year fellas.


So any other game in mind Marrdro?
MNF against the Bears should be pretty gol 'darnit sweet too!


That sounds sweet also.
I need to see what date will have the biggest turnout of PPO'rs there.
Not only do I want to come home and see my team play but meet a bunch of you guys and gals as well.

Zeus
06-07-2007, 09:10 AM
"NodakPaul" wrote:


"Zeus" wrote:


"Webby" wrote:


"Zeus" wrote:


"Webby" wrote:


Here's the intro at the Dome and on our homepage on gamedays!


http://www.purplepride.org/images/videos/vikingsasWebsite001.mov


Is that the same music that is played with it at the Dome??
If so, I'm glad I can't really here anything besides the drums at the games....

=Z=


welcome to the Dome sound system.


::)

Nooooo, we don't need a stadium...


My point was - I'm GLAD the sound isn't good at the game, that music sucked donkey balls.


Holy pooh!
I love that music in the intro!
(I hated "Bring in Da Horns" though).


Did you run the video link Webby posted above?
Is THAT the music you love?
The end of it sounds like a bad Japanese video game for the original Nintendo.

=Z=

NodakPaul
06-07-2007, 09:13 AM
"Zeus" wrote:


Did you run the video link Webby posted above?
Is THAT the music you love?
The end of it sounds like a bad Japanese video game for the original Nintendo.
=Z=


gol 'darnit.
I also liked Nintendo games back in the day... maybe that explains it. ;D

C'mon.
You don't like it?
I think it is because I always associate it with the Vikings that it gets my blood pumping...

Marrdro
06-07-2007, 09:14 AM
"Zeus" wrote:


"Marrdro" wrote:


I am the lead planner for a major training exercise for some people going to play in the sand box.


And you're so vitally important that you can't miss a couple of days?

=Z=

It would be just slightly more catastrophic than say some CB missing OTA's.
;D

Seriously though.
Gotta make sure the comms work.
Young lives depend on it in that environment.

Zeus
06-07-2007, 09:15 AM
"NodakPaul" wrote:


"Zeus" wrote:


Did you run the video link Webby posted above?
Is THAT the music you love?
The end of it sounds like a bad Japanese video game for the original Nintendo.
=Z=


gol 'darnit.
I also liked Nintendo games back in the day... maybe that explains it. ;D

C'mon.
You don't like it?
I think it is because I always associate it with the Vikings that it gets my blood pumping...


No, I don't like it - when listened to outside the loudness of the Dome.

As I said upthread, in the Dome, you can't hear anything but the drums pounding and that's plenty enough for me to get pumped up!

=Z=

singersp
06-07-2007, 06:32 PM
"Marrdro" wrote:


Quick update.


Talked to my boss Monday.
He is still a bit upset with me.
I still don't think he is a GB fan.
He is pretty old (50 or so) so maybe he will retire or something..... >:(

Anyway, doesn't look good for the GB game this year fellas.


Well, what was the list of the alternate games your boss gave you?


The boss even went so far as to log onto the Vikes schedule someplace and give me alternate games.


Take that list & show it to wildboss to see which of those games she'll let you go to.

From that condensed list, post those games here in a poll & find out which game will have the most PP.Oers going to it or has the most PP.Oers going to it that you'd like to meet.

Pretty simple if you ask me.
;)

Marrdro
06-07-2007, 07:13 PM
"singersp" wrote:


"Marrdro" wrote:


Quick update.


Talked to my boss Monday.
He is still a bit upset with me.
I still don't think he is a GB fan.
He is pretty old (50 or so) so maybe he will retire or something..... >:(

Anyway, doesn't look good for the GB game this year fellas.


Well, what was the list of the alternate games your boss gave you?


The boss even went so far as to log onto the Vikes schedule someplace and give me alternate games.


Take that list & show it to wildboss to see which of those games she'll let you go to.

From that condensed list, post those games here in a poll & find out which game will have the most PP.Oers going to it or has the most PP.Oers going to it that you'd like to meet.

Pretty simple if you ask me.
;)

You my friend are wise beyond your years.


Issue is I am still just pissed about not going so I haven't really put any thought into any other games.

singersp
06-07-2007, 07:17 PM
"Marrdro" wrote:


"singersp" wrote:


"Marrdro" wrote:


Quick update.


Talked to my boss Monday.
He is still a bit upset with me.
I still don't think he is a GB fan.
He is pretty old (50 or so) so maybe he will retire or something..... >:(

Anyway, doesn't look good for the GB game this year fellas.


Well, what was the list of the alternate games your boss gave you?


The boss even went so far as to log onto the Vikes schedule someplace and give me alternate games.


Take that list & show it to wildboss to see which of those games she'll let you go to.

From that condensed list, post those games here in a poll & find out which game will have the most PP.Oers going to it or has the most PP.Oers going to it that you'd like to meet.

Pretty simple if you ask me.
;)

You my friend are wise beyond your years.


Issue is I am still just pissed about not going so I haven't really put any thought into any other games.


Awww, quit being quietly disgruntled about the GB game & get your butt in gear. We have a tailgater
to plan.
:P

First we need a tailgate parking area. Rapid Park is gone now, but ahhhhh the memmories & the mammaries!

I miss the hula & Miller Lite girls already.
:'(

BadlandsVikings
06-07-2007, 08:10 PM
If your boss is that much of a jerk you should quit :)

marcosMN
06-07-2007, 08:16 PM
Well, Marr...

I was thinking we should plan to go to a game together with the ladies.

I know Cassie would feel better knowing another female not accustomed to the PP.O scene would be there...

Marrdro
06-08-2007, 09:11 AM
"BadlandsViking" wrote:


If your boss is that much of a jerk you should quit :)

I get paid way to much to and have to do so little to quit over this
;D


Well, Marr...

I was thinking we should plan to go to a game together with the ladies.

I know Cassie would feel better knowing another female not accustomed to the PP.O scene would be there...

Thanks Sno.
Tam is a bit shy around new people herself.
As for me, all I need is beer, food and someone to listen to my dumb off humor jokes and someone to belly bump with.
I got my eye on Shock but I think he outclasses me a bit.

;D

NodakPaul
06-08-2007, 09:30 AM
"Marrdro" wrote:


"BadlandsViking" wrote:


If your boss is that much of a jerk you should quit :)

I get paid way to much to and have to do so little to quit over this
;D


Well, Marr...

I was thinking we should plan to go to a game together with the ladies.

I know Cassie would feel better knowing another female not accustomed to the PP.O scene would be there...

Thanks Sno.
Tam is a bit shy around new people herself.
As for me, all I need is beer, food and someone to listen to my dumb off humor jokes and someone to belly bump with.
I got my eye on Shock but I think he outclasses me a bit.

;D


Depending on the game, my wife may be there too.
She usually goes to two or three, and lets me use her ticket to take friends to the rest of the games.

Marrdro
06-08-2007, 09:32 AM
OK, here are the dates that work for our schedules.
Wildwoman again votes for the earliest game as she wants to tailgate when it isn't sub zero temps.

Sun, Sep 9th, Atlanta
Lots of tickets out there for sale.
Section: 208 Row: 22 - $105
Section: 208 Row: 24 - $105
Section: 236 Row: 11 - $105
Section: 215 * Corner * Row: 27 - $90

Sun, Oct 28th, Philadelphia Lots of tickets out there as well
Section: 227 Row: 22 - $105
Section: 228 Row: 24 - $105
Section: 235 Row: 18 - $105

Who's gonna be there for the Atlanta game?
Were will the tailgate be?

NodakPaul
06-08-2007, 09:44 AM
"Marrdro" wrote:


OK, here are the dates that work for our schedules.
Wildwoman again votes for the earliest game as she wants to tailgate when it isn't sub zero temps.

Sun, Sep 9th, Atlanta
Lots of tickets out there for sale.
Section: 208 Row: 22 - $105
Section: 208 Row: 24 - $105
Section: 236 Row: 11 - $105
Section: 215 * Corner * Row: 27 - $90

Sun, Oct 28th, Philadelphia Lots of tickets out there as well
Section: 227 Row: 22 - $105
Section: 228 Row: 24 - $105
Section: 235 Row: 18 - $105

Who's gonna be there for the Atlanta game?
Were will the tailgate be?



I'll be there for both, and the Mrs. will be there for the Atlanta game.
Home opener should be a lot of fun - We enter that game tied for first place... ;D

The section 236 row 11 are decent seats.
Corner endzone, not too high (I'm a big corner endzone fan).
Are those prices for both tickets or each?
If they are each I would think you could do better on ebay.

EDIT:
Ticket Broker has Section 103 Row 08 tickets for $102 each.
http://www.ticketsinventory.com/ResultsTicket.aspx?evtid=578332

Marrdro
06-08-2007, 10:00 AM
"NodakPaul" wrote:


"Marrdro" wrote:


OK, here are the dates that work for our schedules.
Wildwoman again votes for the earliest game as she wants to tailgate when it isn't sub zero temps.

Sun, Sep 9th, Atlanta
Lots of tickets out there for sale.
Section: 208 Row: 22 - $105
Section: 208 Row: 24 - $105
Section: 236 Row: 11 - $105
Section: 215 * Corner * Row: 27 - $90

Sun, Oct 28th, Philadelphia Lots of tickets out there as well
Section: 227 Row: 22 - $105
Section: 228 Row: 24 - $105
Section: 235 Row: 18 - $105

Who's gonna be there for the Atlanta game?
Were will the tailgate be?



I'll be there for both, and the Mrs. will be there for the Atlanta game.
Home opener should be a lot of fun - We enter that game tied for first place... ;D

The section 236 row 11 are decent seats.
Corner endzone, not too high (I'm a big corner endzone fan).
Are those prices for both tickets or each?
If they are each I would think you could do better on ebay.

EDIT:
Ticket Broker has Section 103 Row 08 tickets for $102 each.
http://www.ticketsinventory.com/ResultsTicket.aspx?evtid=578332

As Sno said, the ladies like it when other ladies are along
;D

I am sure better prices are out there, I just did a quick search.


We had corner seats for the last time we were home.
Weren't to bad.

singersp
06-08-2007, 09:18 PM
I'll be there for both games as well, so far as I can tell. I'm not going thru a ticket broker to get tickets, eBay will be the best source & tickets should be selling for less than face value again.

Here's what I mean. I've been thinking about buying those;

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=008&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&viewitem=&item=180127701092&rd=1&rd=1

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=008&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&viewitem=&item=180127699752&rd=1&rd=1

Face value on those 10 tickets is $490.00, so at $279 & $339 they are below face

So far on eBay I bought;

A pair of Chargers tickets for $46 ($98 face for the pair)

A pair of Lions tickets for $32 ($98 face for the pair)

Four Lions tickets for $90 ($152 face for the four)

singersp
06-08-2007, 09:54 PM
"Marrdro" wrote:


OK, here are the dates that work for our schedules.
Wildwoman again votes for the earliest game as she wants to tailgate when it isn't sub zero temps.

Sun, Sep 9th, Atlanta
Lots of tickets out there for sale.
Section: 208 Row: 22 - $105
Section: 208 Row: 24 - $105
Section: 236 Row: 11 - $105
Section: 215 * Corner * Row: 27 - $90

Sun, Oct 28th, Philadelphia Lots of tickets out there as well
Section: 227 Row: 22 - $105
Section: 228 Row: 24 - $105
Section: 235 Row: 18 - $105

Who's gonna be there for the Atlanta game?
Were will the tailgate be?



I would never pay that kind of money for those tickets for those games if they are per ticket.

Sec 215 face is $38
Sec 235, 236 & 227 are $49 face
sec 208 & 228 are $67 face

You can do better than that on eBay, Ticketmaster or Vikings.com

Marrdro
06-11-2007, 10:56 AM
OK then.
Its on for the Atlanta game, Sep 9th.
Gonna be the second year in a row we went to see them live for the season opener.

Only thing I really need now is a location for the Tailgate so I can get rooms at a close hotel.
Want to be able to walk to it if possible from my hotel.
Trust me when I say, I won't be in any shape to drive after the game.
;D It would be cool if everybody that was from out of town could all get rooms at the same hotel.

I will also pass my cell number to a few of you as the time gets closer so we can make some final arrangements (Beer, food, beer). ;D

I am going to make flights for a Saturday arrival and Monday departure.
If possible maybe we could get together with a few of local denizens for dinner someplace.

Zeus
06-11-2007, 11:33 AM
"Marrdro" wrote:


OK then.
Its on for the Atlanta game, Sep 9th.
Gonna be the second year in a row we went to see them live for the season opener.

Only thing I really need now is a location for the Tailgate so I can get rooms at a close hotel.
Want to be able to walk to it if possible from my hotel.
Trust me when I say, I won't be in any shape to drive after the game.
;D It would be cool if everybody that was from out of town could all get rooms at the same hotel.

I will also pass my cell number to a few of you as the time gets closer so we can make some final arrangements (Beer, food, beer). ;D

I am going to make flights for a Saturday arrival and Monday departure.
If possible maybe we could get together with a few of local denizens for dinner someplace.


To my knowledge, the Vikings and Minneapolis have yet to determine where fans will be allowed to tail-gate prior to games.
So - my advice is to get a hotel which is close to the Dome (something a couple blocks west of the Dome would work nicely) because the tail-gating will end up being around there anyway.
Then, depending on where it ends up, you can either take the light-rail train (LRT) or walk.

=Z=

NodakPaul
06-11-2007, 12:02 PM
"Zeus" wrote:


"Marrdro" wrote:


OK then.
Its on for the Atlanta game, Sep 9th.
Gonna be the second year in a row we went to see them live for the season opener.

Only thing I really need now is a location for the Tailgate so I can get rooms at a close hotel.
Want to be able to walk to it if possible from my hotel.
Trust me when I say, I won't be in any shape to drive after the game.
;D It would be cool if everybody that was from out of town could all get rooms at the same hotel.

I will also pass my cell number to a few of you as the time gets closer so we can make some final arrangements (Beer, food, beer). ;D

I am going to make flights for a Saturday arrival and Monday departure.
If possible maybe we could get together with a few of local denizens for dinner someplace.


To my knowledge, the Vikings and Minneapolis have yet to determine where fans will be allowed to tail-gate prior to games.
So - my advice is to get a hotel which is close to the Dome (something a couple blocks west of the Dome would work nicely) because the tail-gating will end up being around there anyway.
Then, depending on where it ends up, you can either take the light-rail train (LRT) or walk.

=Z=


As of last Friday, the Vikings Ticket Office still didn't know where tailgating was going to be this year.
I have emailed the generic "contact us" address from Vikings.com too, but haven't received any answer.

The plaza and/or some of the local bars are fun before and after games, but tend to get more expensive than tailgating.

Glad to hear that you're heading to the opener Marrdro!
Looking forward to seeing you!

singersp
06-11-2007, 08:33 PM
"Zeus" wrote:



...my advice is to get a hotel which is close to the Dome (something a couple blocks west of the Dome would work nicely) because the tail-gating will end up being around there anyway.
Then, depending on where it ends up, you can either take the light-rail train (LRT) or walk.

=Z=


Sounds like he might not be in any condition to walk either.
:-\

"Marrdro" wrote:



Trust me when I say, I won't be in any shape to drive after the game.




If I'm there, the only reason I wouldn't be is if the Visa goes thru & I'm in the Philippines, I don't have a problem picking you up from a hotel & dropping you off.

(There's a Hooter's next door to the Red Roof In in Burnsville)


I'll probably be staying the overnight before that one because there's a tailgate. Plus I don't drink, so I'll be quite sober.

Cardinal rule though & don't forget, all alcohol for the tailgate must be purchased Friday or Saturday because you can't buy alcohol on Sundays.

Marrdro
06-12-2007, 01:48 PM
"singersp" wrote:


"Zeus" wrote:



...my advice is to get a hotel which is close to the Dome (something a couple blocks west of the Dome would work nicely) because the tail-gating will end up being around there anyway.
Then, depending on where it ends up, you can either take the light-rail train (LRT) or walk.

=Z=


Sounds like he might not be in any condition to walk either.
:-\

"Marrdro" wrote:



Trust me when I say, I won't be in any shape to drive after the game.




If I'm there, the only reason I wouldn't be is if the Visa goes thru & I'm in the Philippines, I don't have a problem picking you up from a hotel & dropping you off.

(There's a Hooter's next door to the Red Roof In in Burnsville)


I'll probably be staying the overnight before that one because there's a tailgate. Plus I don't drink, so I'll be quite sober.

Cardinal rule though & don't forget, all alcohol for the tailgate must be purchased Friday or Saturday because you can't buy alcohol on Sundays.

If I remember right someone offered to accept cash in advance and have it all ready for me.
Some sort of token of appreciation will be offered of course if the offer still stands.
;D



You could always send the beer money to me. I don't drink so I'm the least likely person to drink your supply.


As far as food goes, anyone can pick that up fo you. I have a great source for beef stix & I'll be bringing some to that game.

Just a word of caution, don't let WBL cook for you.

BadlandsVikings
06-12-2007, 01:51 PM
"Marrdro" wrote:


"singersp" wrote:


"Zeus" wrote:



...my advice is to get a hotel which is close to the Dome (something a couple blocks west of the Dome would work nicely) because the tail-gating will end up being around there anyway.
Then, depending on where it ends up, you can either take the light-rail train (LRT) or walk.

=Z=


Sounds like he might not be in any condition to walk either.
:-\

"Marrdro" wrote:



Trust me when I say, I won't be in any shape to drive after the game.




If I'm there, the only reason I wouldn't be is if the Visa goes thru & I'm in the Philippines, I don't have a problem picking you up from a hotel & dropping you off.

(There's a Hooter's next door to the Red Roof In in Burnsville)


I'll probably be staying the overnight before that one because there's a tailgate. Plus I don't drink, so I'll be quite sober.

Cardinal rule though & don't forget, all alcohol for the tailgate must be purchased Friday or Saturday because you can't buy alcohol on Sundays.

If I remember right someone offered to accept cash in advance and have it all ready for me.
Some sort of token of appreciation will be offered of course if the offer still stands.
;D



You could always send the beer money to me. I don't drink so I'm the least likely person to drink your supply.


As far as food goes, anyone can pick that up fo you. I have a great source for beef stix & I'll be bringing some to that game.

Just a word of caution, don't let WBL cook for you.




If you like to eat burnt stuff it's fine.
:D

marcosMN
06-14-2007, 09:31 AM
"Marrdro" wrote:


OK then.
Its on for the Atlanta game, Sep 9th.
Gonna be the second year in a row we went to see them live for the season opener.

Only thing I really need now is a location for the Tailgate so I can get rooms at a close hotel.
Want to be able to walk to it if possible from my hotel.
Trust me when I say, I won't be in any shape to drive after the game.
;D It would be cool if everybody that was from out of town could all get rooms at the same hotel.

I will also pass my cell number to a few of you as the time gets closer so we can make some final arrangements (Beer, food, beer). ;D

I am going to make flights for a Saturday arrival and Monday departure.
If possible maybe we could get together with a few of local denizens for dinner someplace.


Yeah dude!

As for the hotel, anywhere directly downtown will do just fine. There are a few big potential parking lots they might use, but all are in close proximity to the Dome, which is in turn close to everything else downtown.

This is gonna be a blast.

Marrdro
06-14-2007, 12:05 PM
"SnoBumMN" wrote:


"Marrdro" wrote:


OK then.
Its on for the Atlanta game, Sep 9th.
Gonna be the second year in a row we went to see them live for the season opener.

Only thing I really need now is a location for the Tailgate so I can get rooms at a close hotel.
Want to be able to walk to it if possible from my hotel.
Trust me when I say, I won't be in any shape to drive after the game.
;D It would be cool if everybody that was from out of town could all get rooms at the same hotel.

I will also pass my cell number to a few of you as the time gets closer so we can make some final arrangements (Beer, food, beer). ;D

I am going to make flights for a Saturday arrival and Monday departure.
If possible maybe we could get together with a few of local denizens for dinner someplace.


Yeah dude!

As for the hotel, anywhere directly downtown will do just fine. There are a few big potential parking lots they might use, but all are in close proximity to the Dome, which is in turn close to everything else downtown.

This is gonna be a blast.

I set them up for the Best Western Normandy Inn at 405 S 8th St.
We'll arrive in MSP shortly after 3.
Seats are in Section 216, row 18.

don't know who's more jazzed, Wildwoman or me.
;D

Hope to see a bunch there.
PM me and I will send my cell phone number if you are going to be there and want to link up.

Zeus
06-14-2007, 02:16 PM
"Marrdro" wrote:


I set them up for the Best Western Normandy Inn at 405 S 8th St.
We'll arrive in MSP shortly after 3.
Seats are in Section 216, row 18.

don't know who's more jazzed, Wildwoman or me.

;D

Hope to see a bunch there.
PM me and I will send my cell phone number if you are going to be there and want to link up.


Easy, killer.
The game isn't for 3 months.
LOTS of time to solidify details.

=Z=

singersp
06-14-2007, 07:11 PM
"BadlandsViking" wrote:


"Marrdro" wrote:


"singersp" wrote:


"Zeus" wrote:



...my advice is to get a hotel which is close to the Dome (something a couple blocks west of the Dome would work nicely) because the tail-gating will end up being around there anyway.
Then, depending on where it ends up, you can either take the light-rail train (LRT) or walk.

=Z=


Sounds like he might not be in any condition to walk either.
:-\

"Marrdro" wrote:



Trust me when I say, I won't be in any shape to drive after the game.




If I'm there, the only reason I wouldn't be is if the Visa goes thru & I'm in the Philippines, I don't have a problem picking you up from a hotel & dropping you off.

(There's a Hooter's next door to the Red Roof In in Burnsville)


I'll probably be staying the overnight before that one because there's a tailgate. Plus I don't drink, so I'll be quite sober.

Cardinal rule though & don't forget, all alcohol for the tailgate must be purchased Friday or Saturday because you can't buy alcohol on Sundays.

If I remember right someone offered to accept cash in advance and have it all ready for me.
Some sort of token of appreciation will be offered of course if the offer still stands.
;D



You could always send the beer money to me. I don't drink so I'm the least likely person to drink your supply.


As far as food goes, anyone can pick that up fo you. I have a great source for beef stix & I'll be bringing some to that game.

Just a word of caution, don't let WBL cook for you.




If you like to eat burnt stuff it's fine.
:D


A sample of WBL's cooking at the Ram's tailgate.

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b21/singersp82759/PPO%20Tailgating/P6.jpg

BadlandsVikings
06-14-2007, 07:14 PM
"singersp" wrote:


"BadlandsViking" wrote:


"Marrdro" wrote:


"singersp" wrote:


"Zeus" wrote:



...my advice is to get a hotel which is close to the Dome (something a couple blocks west of the Dome would work nicely) because the tail-gating will end up being around there anyway.
Then, depending on where it ends up, you can either take the light-rail train (LRT) or walk.

=Z=


Sounds like he might not be in any condition to walk either.
:-\

"Marrdro" wrote:



Trust me when I say, I won't be in any shape to drive after the game.




If I'm there, the only reason I wouldn't be is if the Visa goes thru & I'm in the Philippines, I don't have a problem picking you up from a hotel & dropping you off.

(There's a Hooter's next door to the Red Roof In in Burnsville)


I'll probably be staying the overnight before that one because there's a tailgate. Plus I don't drink, so I'll be quite sober.

Cardinal rule though & don't forget, all alcohol for the tailgate must be purchased Friday or Saturday because you can't buy alcohol on Sundays.

If I remember right someone offered to accept cash in advance and have it all ready for me.
Some sort of token of appreciation will be offered of course if the offer still stands.
;D



You could always send the beer money to me. I don't drink so I'm the least likely person to drink your supply.


As far as food goes, anyone can pick that up fo you. I have a great source for beef stix & I'll be bringing some to that game.

Just a word of caution, don't let WBL cook for you.




If you like to eat burnt stuff it's fine.
:D


A sample of WBL's cooking at the Ram's tailgate.

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b21/singersp82759/PPO%20Tailgating/P6.jpg


The flame was just a little bit smaller than the guy using his Christmas tree to start his fire.
:D

singersp
06-14-2007, 07:15 PM
"Marrdro" wrote:



If I remember right someone offered to accept cash in advance and have it all ready for me.
Some sort of token of appreciation will be offered of course if the offer still stands.
;D



You could always send the beer money to me. I don't drink so I'm the least likely person to drink your supply.


As far as food goes, anyone can pick that up fo you. I have a great source for beef stix & I'll be bringing some to that game.

Just a word of caution, don't let WBL cook for you.






Yep, the offer still stands.

cajunvike
06-14-2007, 07:16 PM
"Zeus" wrote:


"Marrdro" wrote:


I set them up for the Best Western Normandy Inn at 405 S 8th St.
We'll arrive in MSP shortly after 3.
Seats are in Section 216, row 18.

don't know who's more jazzed, Wildwoman or me.

;D

Hope to see a bunch there.
PM me and I will send my cell phone number if you are going to be there and want to link up.


Easy, killer.
The game isn't for 3 months.
LOTS of time to solidify details.

=Z=


Tell Zeus to fuck off...way to start planning now...never TOO EARLY to get excited about the Vikings!
;D

cajunvike
06-14-2007, 07:18 PM
"singersp" wrote:


"BadlandsViking" wrote:


"Marrdro" wrote:


"singersp" wrote:


"Zeus" wrote:



...my advice is to get a hotel which is close to the Dome (something a couple blocks west of the Dome would work nicely) because the tail-gating will end up being around there anyway.
Then, depending on where it ends up, you can either take the light-rail train (LRT) or walk.

=Z=


Sounds like he might not be in any condition to walk either.
:-\

"Marrdro" wrote:



Trust me when I say, I won't be in any shape to drive after the game.




If I'm there, the only reason I wouldn't be is if the Visa goes thru & I'm in the Philippines, I don't have a problem picking you up from a hotel & dropping you off.

(There's a Hooter's next door to the Red Roof In in Burnsville)


I'll probably be staying the overnight before that one because there's a tailgate. Plus I don't drink, so I'll be quite sober.

Cardinal rule though & don't forget, all alcohol for the tailgate must be purchased Friday or Saturday because you can't buy alcohol on Sundays.

If I remember right someone offered to accept cash in advance and have it all ready for me.
Some sort of token of appreciation will be offered of course if the offer still stands.
;D



You could always send the beer money to me. I don't drink so I'm the least likely person to drink your supply.


As far as food goes, anyone can pick that up fo you. I have a great source for beef stix & I'll be bringing some to that game.

Just a word of caution, don't let WBL cook for you.




If you like to eat burnt stuff it's fine.
:D


A sample of WBL's cooking at the Ram's tailgate.

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b21/singersp82759/PPO%20Tailgating/P6.jpg


Her POOR new fiance...LOL

Well, there are OTHER ways that she can keep him happy!
LOL

singersp
06-14-2007, 07:20 PM
"cajunvike" wrote:


"Zeus" wrote:


"Marrdro" wrote:


I set them up for the Best Western Normandy Inn at 405 S 8th St.
We'll arrive in MSP shortly after 3.
Seats are in Section 216, row 18.

don't know who's more jazzed, Wildwoman or me.

;D

Hope to see a bunch there.
PM me and I will send my cell phone number if you are going to be there and want to link up.


Easy, killer.
The game isn't for 3 months.
LOTS of time to solidify details.

=Z=


Tell Zeus to fuck off...way to start planning now...never TOO EARLY to get excited about the Vikings!
;D


True! Usually they wait until the last minute & try to get something organized & nobody ends up with each others cell phone numbers, which led to PP.O ers aimlessly roaming the lot looking for the PP.O banner.

Which is sometimes difficult if..........

THE BANNER IS LATE!

cajunvike
06-14-2007, 07:23 PM
"singersp" wrote:


"cajunvike" wrote:


"Zeus" wrote:


"Marrdro" wrote:


I set them up for the Best Western Normandy Inn at 405 S 8th St.
We'll arrive in MSP shortly after 3.
Seats are in Section 216, row 18.

don't know who's more jazzed, Wildwoman or me.

;D

Hope to see a bunch there.
PM me and I will send my cell phone number if you are going to be there and want to link up.


Easy, killer.
The game isn't for 3 months.
LOTS of time to solidify details.

=Z=


Tell Zeus to floop off...way to start planning now...never TOO EARLY to get excited about the Vikings!
;D


True! Usually they wait until the last minute & try to get something organized & nobody ends up with each others cell phone numbers, which led to PP.O ers aimlessly roaming the lot looking for the PP.O banner.

Which is sometimes difficult if..........

THE BANNER IS LATE!


I think that YOU should have a secondary banner...since you are probably the one who gets there first.
;)

BadlandsVikings
06-14-2007, 07:28 PM
"cajunvike" wrote:


"singersp" wrote:


"cajunvike" wrote:


"Zeus" wrote:


"Marrdro" wrote:


I set them up for the Best Western Normandy Inn at 405 S 8th St.
We'll arrive in MSP shortly after 3.
Seats are in Section 216, row 18.

don't know who's more jazzed, Wildwoman or me.

;D

Hope to see a bunch there.
PM me and I will send my cell phone number if you are going to be there and want to link up.


Easy, killer.
The game isn't for 3 months.
LOTS of time to solidify details.

=Z=


Tell Zeus to floop off...way to start planning now...never TOO EARLY to get excited about the Vikings!
;D


True! Usually they wait until the last minute & try to get something organized & nobody ends up with each others cell phone numbers, which led to PP.O ers aimlessly roaming the lot looking for the PP.O banner.

Which is sometimes difficult if..........

THE BANNER IS LATE!


I think that YOU should have a secondary banner...since you are probably the one who gets there first.
;)


I was told to be there at 8, and wondered around in water puddles till 9 when Webby showed up
>:(

marcosMN
06-14-2007, 07:46 PM
"BadlandsViking" wrote:


"cajunvike" wrote:


"singersp" wrote:


"cajunvike" wrote:


"Zeus" wrote:




I set them up for the Best Western Normandy Inn at 405 S 8th St.
We'll arrive in MSP shortly after 3.
Seats are in Section 216, row 18.

don't know who's more jazzed, Wildwoman or me.
;D

Hope to see a bunch there.
PM me and I will send my cell phone number if you are going to be there and want to link up.


Easy, killer.
The game isn't for 3 months.
LOTS of time to solidify details.

=Z=


Tell Zeus to floop off...way to start planning now...never TOO EARLY to get excited about the Vikings!
;D


True! Usually they wait until the last minute & try to get something organized & nobody ends up with each others cell phone numbers, which led to PP.O ers aimlessly roaming the lot looking for the PP.O banner.

Which is sometimes difficult if..........

THE BANNER IS LATE!


I think that YOU should have a secondary banner...since you are probably the one who gets there first.
;)


I was told to be there at 8, and wondered around in water puddles till 9 when Webby showed up
>:(


LMAO.

I was at Caribou at Block E downtown.

Like singer said, if we all exchanged #'s beforehand, you could have been warm sipping coffee!
:)

singersp
06-14-2007, 07:57 PM
"SnoBumMN" wrote:


"BadlandsViking" wrote:


"cajunvike" wrote:


"singersp" wrote:


"cajunvike" wrote:






I set them up for the Best Western Normandy Inn at 405 S 8th St.
We'll arrive in MSP shortly after 3.
Seats are in Section 216, row 18.

don't know who's more jazzed, Wildwoman or me.

;D

Hope to see a bunch there.
PM me and I will send my cell phone number if you are going to be there and want to link up.


Easy, killer.
The game isn't for 3 months.
LOTS of time to solidify details.

=Z=


Tell Zeus to floop off...way to start planning now...never TOO EARLY to get excited about the Vikings!
;D


True! Usually they wait until the last minute & try to get something organized & nobody ends up with each others cell phone numbers, which led to PP.O ers aimlessly roaming the lot looking for the PP.O banner.

Which is sometimes difficult if..........

THE BANNER IS LATE!


I think that YOU should have a secondary banner...since you are probably the one who gets there first.
;)


I was told to be there at 8, and wondered around in water puddles till 9 when Webby showed up
>:(


LMAO.

I was at Caribou at Block E downtown.

Like singer said, if we all exchanged #'s beforehand, you could have been warm sipping coffee!
:)


Which is why I request people to send me their cell phone numbers before the tailgate. Some did & some didn't.

We were more prepared with numbers for the draft party & it went off like a hitch.

Zeus
06-15-2007, 11:05 AM
"singersp" wrote:


Which is why I request people to send me their cell phone numbers before the tailgate. Some did & some didn't.

We were more prepared with numbers for the draft party & it went off like a hitch.


Much smaller space with a lot less people.

I've never had a problem finding the tailgate party - although the first one I attended I found because I spotted you, not the banner.

=Z=

BadlandsVikings
07-22-2007, 11:46 PM
Is it September 9th yet?

Marrdro
07-23-2007, 08:07 AM
"BadlandsViking" wrote:


Is it September 9th yet?

NOOOOOOOOOO
:o

This month as well as Aug will fly by as I am pretty busy at work.
Throw in the TC starts soon.

Won't be long before we are sucking some suds, eating some burnt flesh and heading to the game in a proper frame of mind.
;D

NordicNed
07-23-2007, 08:12 AM
"Marrdro" wrote:


"BadlandsViking" wrote:


Is it September 9th yet?

NOOOOOOOOOO
:o

This month as well as Aug will fly by as I am pretty busy at work.
Throw in the TC starts soon.

Won't be long before we are sucking some suds, eating some burnt flesh and heading to the game in a proper frame of mind.
;D







Marrdro,




Is this your first trip to the dome?

Marrdro
07-23-2007, 08:35 AM
"NordicNed" wrote:


"Marrdro" wrote:


"BadlandsViking" wrote:


Is it September 9th yet?

NOOOOOOOOOO
:o

This month as well as Aug will fly by as I am pretty busy at work.
Throw in the TC starts soon.

Won't be long before we are sucking some suds, eating some burnt flesh and heading to the game in a proper frame of mind.
;D








Marrdro,





Is this your first trip to the dome?

Second to the Dome.
I got to see the Moss Toss to Moe against Denver Oct. 19 2003.

NordicNed
07-23-2007, 08:40 AM
"Marrdro" wrote:


"NordicNed" wrote:


"Marrdro" wrote:


"BadlandsViking" wrote:


Is it September 9th yet?

NOOOOOOOOOO
:o

This month as well as Aug will fly by as I am pretty busy at work.
Throw in the TC starts soon.

Won't be long before we are sucking some suds, eating some burnt flesh and heading to the game in a proper frame of mind.
;D








Marrdro,





Is this your first trip to the dome?

Second to the Dome.
I got to see the Moss Toss to Moe against Denver Oct. 19 2003.









Thats great Marr......My first trip was the year before last.
I went with Singer and Caine to the last game of the year against the Bears.
Then heard on the radio when I got back to the hotel that Tice was canned....LOL..








I actually cried a few tears when the Vikings took the field.
A sight I dreamed of for a very long time...








Me and Cajun might be going to the Giants game in New Jersey....Wanna join us?....
I might be going to the Jets preseason game also.....Tickets for that should be cheap

Marrdro
07-23-2007, 08:44 AM
"NordicNed" wrote:


"Marrdro" wrote:


"NordicNed" wrote:


"Marrdro" wrote:


"BadlandsViking" wrote:


Is it September 9th yet?

NOOOOOOOOOO
:o

This month as well as Aug will fly by as I am pretty busy at work.
Throw in the TC starts soon.

Won't be long before we are sucking some suds, eating some burnt flesh and heading to the game in a proper frame of mind.
;D








Marrdro,





Is this your first trip to the dome?

Second to the Dome.
I got to see the Moss Toss to Moe against Denver Oct. 19 2003.









Thats great Marr......My first trip was the year before last.
I went with Singer and Caine to the last game of the year against the Bears.
Then heard on the radio when I got back to the hotel that Tice was canned....LOL..








I actually cried a few tears when the Vikings took the field.
A sight I dreamed of for a very long time...








Me and Cajun might be going to the Giants game in New Jersey....Wanna join us?....
I might be going to the Jets preseason game also.....Tickets for that should be cheap


I wish I could.
Kid in college, 16 year old starting to drive and of course my hunting/fishing hit the checkbook hard.


Maybe if I win the lottery.
Thanks for the invite though
;D

AngloVike
07-25-2007, 03:53 PM
"NordicNed" wrote:










I actually cried a few tears when the Vikings took the field.
A sight I dreamed of for a very long time...


I can relate to that , felt the same way first time I managed to get to the Dome - never imagined I'd ever get there to see the team in person. Not something you forget
:)

sleepagent
07-26-2007, 10:34 PM
"NordicNed" wrote:


"Marrdro" wrote:


"NordicNed" wrote:


"Marrdro" wrote:


"BadlandsViking" wrote:


Is it September 9th yet?

NOOOOOOOOOO
:o

This month as well as Aug will fly by as I am pretty busy at work.
Throw in the TC starts soon.

Won't be long before we are sucking some suds, eating some burnt flesh and heading to the game in a proper frame of mind.
;D








Marrdro,





Is this your first trip to the dome?

Second to the Dome.
I got to see the Moss Toss to Moe against Denver Oct. 19 2003.









Thats great Marr......My first trip was the year before last.
I went with Singer and Caine to the last game of the year against the Bears.
Then heard on the radio when I got back to the hotel that Tice was canned....LOL..








I actually cried a few tears when the Vikings took the field.
A sight I dreamed of for a very long time...







Me and Cajun might be going to the Giants game in New Jersey....Wanna join us?....
I might be going to the Jets preseason game also.....Tickets for that should be cheap



Funny you mentioned that . . .

Happened to me at the Thanksgiving Weekend game against the Browns.

Most of the fans wouldn't understand that emmotion . . . unless you've been a Vikings Fan outside of Minnesota your whole life.

It was a weird feeling being around lots and lots of Viking fans.
Kind of a lost bird making its way home . . .

AngloVike
07-27-2007, 03:58 AM
"sleepagent" wrote:



Funny you mentioned that . . .

Happened to me at the Thanksgiving Weekend game against the Browns.

Most of the fans wouldn't understand that emmotion . . . unless you've been a Vikings Fan outside of Minnesota your whole life.

It was a weird feeling being around lots and lots of Viking fans.
Kind of a lost bird making its way home . . .


sums it nicely in one sentence.. makes it nice to know that there are others out there

BadlandsVikings
08-09-2007, 04:24 PM
WOOHOOOO!!! My ticket showed up today :D

Zeus
08-09-2007, 04:26 PM
"BadlandsViking" wrote:


WOOHOOOO!!! My ticket showed up today :D


You're ready to PARTY!

=Z=

cajunvike
08-09-2007, 04:27 PM
"Marrdro" wrote:


"BadlandsViking" wrote:


Is it September 9th yet?

NOOOOOOOOOO
:o

This month as well as Aug will fly by as I am pretty busy at work.
Throw in the TC starts soon.

Won't be long before we are sucking some suds, eating some burnt flesh and heading to the game in a proper frame of mind.
;D


But WHERE will the tailgating take place???
:-[

NodakPaul
08-09-2007, 04:31 PM
"cajunvike" wrote:


"Marrdro" wrote:


"BadlandsViking" wrote:


Is it September 9th yet?

NOOOOOOOOOO
:o

This month as well as Aug will fly by as I am pretty busy at work.
Throw in the TC starts soon.

Won't be long before we are sucking some suds, eating some burnt flesh and heading to the game in a proper frame of mind.
;D


But WHERE will the tailgating take place???
:-[


No kidding!
I can't believe we are one day away from the pre season opener, and there is still no word from the Vikings regarding Tailgating.
>:(

Zeus
08-09-2007, 04:32 PM
"NodakPaul" wrote:


"cajunvike" wrote:


"Marrdro" wrote:


"BadlandsViking" wrote:


Is it September 9th yet?

NOOOOOOOOOO
:o

This month as well as Aug will fly by as I am pretty busy at work.
Throw in the TC starts soon.

Won't be long before we are sucking some suds, eating some burnt flesh and heading to the game in a proper frame of mind.
;D


But WHERE will the tailgating take place???
:-[


No kidding!
I can't believe we are one day away from the pre season opener, and there is still no word from the Vikings regarding Tailgating.
>:(


I was just on the website.
Nothing.
And Kansas Viking (which is a great site for that kind of stuff) has nothing but the corporate "We're working on it!" line.

Idiotic!!!!

=Z=

Marrdro
08-09-2007, 04:45 PM
"Zeus" wrote:


"NodakPaul" wrote:


"cajunvike" wrote:


"Marrdro" wrote:


"BadlandsViking" wrote:


Is it September 9th yet?

NOOOOOOOOOO
:o

This month as well as Aug will fly by as I am pretty busy at work.
Throw in the TC starts soon.

Won't be long before we are sucking some suds, eating some burnt flesh and heading to the game in a proper frame of mind.
;D


But WHERE will the tailgating take place???
:-[


No kidding!
I can't believe we are one day away from the pre season opener, and there is still no word from the Vikings regarding Tailgating.
>:(


I was just on the website.
Nothing.
And Kansas Viking (which is a great site for that kind of stuff) has nothing but the corporate "We're working on it!" line.

Idiotic!!!!

=Z=

Thats it. I'm calling my hotel.
They must have a roof or parking garage
;D

BadlandsVikings
08-09-2007, 04:48 PM
"Marrdro" wrote:


"Zeus" wrote:


"NodakPaul" wrote:


"cajunvike" wrote:


"Marrdro" wrote:




Is it September 9th yet?

NOOOOOOOOOO
:o

This month as well as Aug will fly by as I am pretty busy at work.
Throw in the TC starts soon.

Won't be long before we are sucking some suds, eating some burnt flesh and heading to the game in a proper frame of mind.
;D


But WHERE will the tailgating take place???
:-[


No kidding!
I can't believe we are one day away from the pre season opener, and there is still no word from the Vikings regarding Tailgating.
>:(


I was just on the website.
Nothing.
And Kansas Viking (which is a great site for that kind of stuff) has nothing but the corporate "We're working on it!" line.

Idiotic!!!!

=Z=

Thats it. I'm calling my hotel.
They must have a roof or parking garage
;D


We can always tailgate in your hotel room.
:D

marcosMN
08-09-2007, 04:55 PM
The Vikings recognize that tailgating is an essential element to the fans' game day experience. The team is working diligently to develop tailgating plans for the 2007 season in an effort to provide fans with the best possibe game day atmosphere. Continue to check vikings.com for updates on our progress. Thank you for your patience.

http://www.vikings.com/tailgating.html

tb04512
08-09-2007, 05:45 PM
well looks like ill be going to eat after the game
:'(

singersp
08-09-2007, 06:39 PM
"BadlandsViking" wrote:


WOOHOOOO!!! My ticket showed up today :D


You paid for a ticket when I have two free ones?
::)

BadlandsVikings
08-09-2007, 10:23 PM
"singersp" wrote:


"BadlandsViking" wrote:


WOOHOOOO!!! My ticket showed up today :D


You paid for a ticket when I have two free ones?
::)


What game are talking about?

singersp
08-09-2007, 10:58 PM
"BadlandsViking" wrote:


"singersp" wrote:


"BadlandsViking" wrote:


WOOHOOOO!!! My ticket showed up today :D


You paid for a ticket when I have two free ones?
::)


What game are talking about?


Tomorrows Rams game of course.

BadlandsVikings
08-09-2007, 10:59 PM
"singersp" wrote:


"BadlandsViking" wrote:


"singersp" wrote:


"BadlandsViking" wrote:


WOOHOOOO!!! My ticket showed up today :D


You paid for a ticket when I have two free ones?
::)


What game are talking about?


Tomorrows Rams game of course.


Ahh, no this is for home opener.

singersp
08-28-2007, 08:45 AM
11 days til Marrdro

Marrdro
08-28-2007, 08:52 AM
"singersp" wrote:


11 days til Marrdro

Can't wait.

Planner in me is starting to take over.
I am already irritating Wildwoman with things like lists of things to pack/not forget, printing of maps, checking of tickets etc etc.

Hopefully I won't irritate with questions like were are we going to dinner on Sat, who is coming, how big is your cooler, do you have enugh gas.
Its in may nature to get a bit anal over things until the beer starts flowing.
Then I relax a bit.
;D

Zeus
08-28-2007, 10:11 AM
"singersp" wrote:


11 days til Marrdro


How many shopping days is that?

=Z=

Marrdro
08-28-2007, 11:01 AM
"Zeus" wrote:


"singersp" wrote:


11 days til Marrdro


How many shopping days is that?

=Z=

Actually 6 more fishing days....... ;D

Webby
08-28-2007, 11:03 AM
"Marrdro" wrote:


"singersp" wrote:


11 days til Marrdro

Can't wait.

Planner in me is starting to take over.
I am already irritating Wildwoman with things like lists of things to pack/not forget, printing of maps, checking of tickets etc etc.

Hopefully I won't irritate with questions like were are we going to dinner on Sat, who is coming, how big is your cooler, do you have enugh gas.

Its in may nature to get a bit anal over things until the beer starts flowing.
Then I relax a bit.

;D


I have enough gas to effect global warming.

BadlandsVikings
08-28-2007, 11:06 AM
"Marrdro" wrote:


"singersp" wrote:


11 days til Marrdro

Can't wait.

Planner in me is starting to take over.
I am already irritating Wildwoman with things like lists of things to pack/not forget, printing of maps, checking of tickets etc etc.

Hopefully I won't irritate with questions like were are we going to dinner on Sat, who is coming, how big is your cooler, do you have enugh gas.

Its in may nature to get a bit anal over things until the beer starts flowing.
Then I relax a bit.

;D


That's not irritating that's important.
:)

Marrdro
08-28-2007, 11:07 AM
"Webby" wrote:


"Marrdro" wrote:


"singersp" wrote:


11 days til Marrdro

Can't wait.

Planner in me is starting to take over.
I am already irritating Wildwoman with things like lists of things to pack/not forget, printing of maps, checking of tickets etc etc.

Hopefully I won't irritate with questions like were are we going to dinner on Sat, who is coming, how big is your cooler, do you have enugh gas.

Its in may nature to get a bit anal over things until the beer starts flowing.
Then I relax a bit.

;D


I have enough gas to effect global warming.


Will there be any grillage going on at your house on the 8th. Already will have cooler of fish in tow for Singer.
Might as well bring some extra Striper if anyone is interested (or wants to cook it).
;D

Webby
08-28-2007, 11:11 AM
Well, I do have a grill....and I have an exceedingly large deck.

(reference the old deck thread)

Marrdro
08-28-2007, 11:17 AM
"Webby" wrote:


Well, I do have a grill....and I have an exceedingly large deck.

(reference the old deck thread)

Its a deal.
Grilled Striper steaks and beers.

Zeus
08-28-2007, 11:18 AM
"Marrdro" wrote:


"Webby" wrote:


Well, I do have a grill....and I have an exceedingly large deck.

(reference the old deck thread)


Its a deal.

Grilled Striper steaks and beers.


I pity the guy who has to sit next to your stinky fish-ass on the plane.

=Z=

Webby
08-28-2007, 11:21 AM
"Zeus" wrote:


"Marrdro" wrote:


"Webby" wrote:


Well, I do have a grill....and I have an exceedingly large deck.

(reference the old deck thread)


Its a deal.

Grilled Striper steaks and beers.


I pity the guy who has to sit next to your stinky fish-jiggly butt on the plane.

=Z=


Or the guys in his office after a night of his beast consumption.

BadlandsVikings
08-28-2007, 11:22 AM
"Zeus" wrote:


"Marrdro" wrote:


"Webby" wrote:


Well, I do have a grill....and I have an exceedingly large deck.

(reference the old deck thread)


Its a deal.

Grilled Striper steaks and beers.


I pity the guy who has to sit next to your stinky fish-ass on the plane.

=Z=


He can just blame the smell on flight attendant.
:)

Marrdro
08-28-2007, 11:23 AM
"Zeus" wrote:


"Marrdro" wrote:


"Webby" wrote:


Well, I do have a grill....and I have an exceedingly large deck.

(reference the old deck thread)


Its a deal.

Grilled Striper steaks and beers.


I pity the guy who has to sit next to your stinky fish-jiggly butt on the plane.

=Z=

Spoke with TSA.
I will have a cooler full of fish that I will check through as luggage.
After they inspect it, they will then let me duct tape it shut and then close it up in a cardboard box.

They won't let me use any dry ice.
::)

Fish is vacumn packed and frozen.
Should still be frozen when we get to Minneapolis Sat afternoon.

Zeus
08-28-2007, 11:26 AM
"Marrdro" wrote:


"Zeus" wrote:


"Marrdro" wrote:


"Webby" wrote:


Well, I do have a grill....and I have an exceedingly large deck.

(reference the old deck thread)


Its a deal.

Grilled Striper steaks and beers.


I pity the guy who has to sit next to your stinky fish-jiggly butt on the plane.


Spoke with TSA.
I will have a cooler full of fish that I will check through as luggage.
After they inspect it, they will then let me duct tape it shut and then close it up in a cardboard box.

They won't let me use any dry ice.
::)

Fish is vacumn packed and frozen.
Should still be frozen when we get to Minneapolis Sat afternoon.

Why not ship it ahead of time?

=Z=

singersp
08-28-2007, 08:41 PM
"Marrdro" wrote:


"Webby" wrote:


Well, I do have a grill....and I have an exceedingly large deck.

(reference the old deck thread)

Its a deal.
Grilled Striper steaks and beers.


But not necessarily in that order.

singersp
08-28-2007, 08:42 PM
"Marrdro" wrote:


"Zeus" wrote:


"Marrdro" wrote:


"Webby" wrote:


Well, I do have a grill....and I have an exceedingly large deck.

(reference the old deck thread)


Its a deal.

Grilled Striper steaks and beers.


I pity the guy who has to sit next to your stinky fish-jiggly butt on the plane.

=Z=

Spoke with TSA.
I will have a cooler full of fish that I will check through as luggage.
After they inspect it, they will then let me duct tape it shut and then close it up in a cardboard box.

They won't let me use any dry ice.
::)

Fish is vacumn packed and frozen.
Should still be frozen when we get to Minneapolis Sat afternoon.


If you additionaly wrap it in lots of newspaper, it will stay frozen even longer. A trick I learned from Ned & Margie.

Marrdro
08-29-2007, 09:09 AM
"singersp" wrote:


"Marrdro" wrote:


"Zeus" wrote:


"Marrdro" wrote:


"Webby" wrote:


Well, I do have a grill....and I have an exceedingly large deck.

(reference the old deck thread)


Its a deal.

Grilled Striper steaks and beers.


I pity the guy who has to sit next to your stinky fish-jiggly butt on the plane.

=Z=

Spoke with TSA.
I will have a cooler full of fish that I will check through as luggage.
After they inspect it, they will then let me duct tape it shut and then close it up in a cardboard box.

They won't let me use any dry ice.
::)

Fish is vacumn packed and frozen.
Should still be frozen when we get to Minneapolis Sat afternoon.


If you additionaly wrap it in lots of newspaper, it will stay frozen even longer. A trick I learned from Ned & Margie.


TSA says they have to be able to see inside the packages.
I don't want to stand in the aiport wrapping fish in newspaper,
;D

We will probably use a couple of towels to pack around/wrap them.

Zeus
02-27-2008, 08:50 AM
"Marrdro" wrote:


Hopefully this is the right place as it appears that the ones I want input from are HOF'rs.

Gonna start working arrangements to come home for a game this year.
:o

Really want to get to meet a few of you at the event (Tailgaiting Baby).

What game is the best for all of you?



*bump*

When you coming to town THIS year, bruddah?

=Z=

Marrdro
02-27-2008, 08:54 AM
"Zeus" wrote:


"Marrdro" wrote:


Hopefully this is the right place as it appears that the ones I want input from are HOF'rs.

Gonna start working arrangements to come home for a game this year.
:o

Really want to get to meet a few of you at the event (Tailgaiting Baby).

What game is the best for all of you?



*bump*

When you coming to town THIS year, bruddah?

=Z=

Hmmm, good question.

I am currently working an exercise with some of the MN Army National Guard this summer.
Thought I would try to get together with a few of you if I come up, (In a Exercise Support role of course) and figure that one out.

Hard to say though until the schedule comes out.

Would be great to have the Schedule come out and have the Tenn game on a Sunday and then follow that up with a Vikes game on the following Thurs.


Not sure if my body could take that much partying.
;D

Zeus
02-27-2008, 08:59 AM
"Marrdro" wrote:


Hard to say though until the schedule comes out.

Would be great to have the Schedule come out and have the Tenn game on a Sunday and then follow that up with a Vikes game on the following Thurs.


Not sure if my body could take that much partying.

;D


I wonder when that happens - the schedule, that is.
Not the continued deterioration of your body.

=Z=

Marrdro
02-27-2008, 09:10 AM
"Zeus" wrote:


"Marrdro" wrote:


Hard to say though until the schedule comes out.

Would be great to have the Schedule come out and have the Tenn game on a Sunday and then follow that up with a Vikes game on the following Thurs.


Not sure if my body could take that much partying.

;D


I wonder when that happens - the schedule, that is.
Not the continued deterioration of your body.

=Z=

Hmmm, I am not sure.
I did a quick google on "NFL Schedule announced" and found most of the articles were mid to late March

NodakPaul
02-27-2008, 09:17 AM
Last year the NFL waited until the second week of April to announce the schedule.
Now that they have taken to releasing the schedules live on an hour long NFL Total Access special on NFLN, they have some additional coordinating to do - i.e. advertising, analysis prep, etc. - so it comes out a little later than it used to.

They usually announce some of the prime time games in mid to late March.

AngloVike
02-27-2008, 09:52 AM
thats a pain waiting til then .... can't start working any plans up yet though I know we won't be over in October, due to the wife's work commitments. So think we'll be looking at Thanksgiving weekend again .

Marrdro
02-27-2008, 10:43 AM
"AngloVike" wrote:


thats a pain waiting til then .... can't start working any plans up yet though I know we won't be over in October, due to the wife's work commitments. So think we'll be looking at Thanksgiving weekend again .

See, now that is quality input that will drive my decision.


I would love to time my trip to meet more of you guys, especially our overseas guys.
Need to get Cogs involved in this discussion as well.
;D

Zeus
02-27-2008, 11:00 AM
"Marrdro" wrote:


"AngloVike" wrote:


thats a pain waiting til then .... can't start working any plans up yet though I know we won't be over in October, due to the wife's work commitments. So think we'll be looking at Thanksgiving weekend again .


See, now that is quality input that will drive my decision.


I would love to time my trip to meet more of you guys, especially our overseas guys.
Need to get Cogs involved in this discussion as well.

;D


He's holding out for a game in Denmark, so we can all crash on his floor.

=Z=

cogitans
02-27-2008, 11:17 AM
"Marrdro" wrote:


"AngloVike" wrote:


thats a pain waiting til then .... can't start working any plans up yet though I know we won't be over in October, due to the wife's work commitments. So think we'll be looking at Thanksgiving weekend again .

See, now that is quality input that will drive my decision.


I would love to time my trip to meet more of you guys, especially our overseas guys.
Need to get Cogs involved in this discussion as well.
;D
I start working on monday. So right now my future plans goes no further than 14 days.

To tell you the truth, I don't even know if I can expect to get any vacation time the first year, so I need to hold out for a little while longer.

AngloVike
02-27-2008, 11:27 AM
"Marrdro" wrote:


"AngloVike" wrote:


thats a pain waiting til then .... can't start working any plans up yet though I know we won't be over in October, due to the wife's work commitments. So think we'll be looking at Thanksgiving weekend again .

See, now that is quality input that will drive my decision.


I would love to time my trip to meet more of you guys, especially our overseas guys.
Need to get Cogs involved in this discussion as well.
;D


now if it could be the Packers game then we might even get PacNWVike to that tailgate as well
;D

PacNWVike
02-27-2008, 11:34 AM
"AngloVike" wrote:


now if it could be the Packers game then we might even get PacNWVike to that tailgate as well
;D


My quest to meet Mr. & Mrs. Anglo!
Scott and I may bring a third Viking fanatic with us this year.
Historically we always seem to hit the Cheesedick visits, but we could see a different game if enough of your guys show up.
BTW Peter, a friend of mine is going to London on a business trip and he's going to try to look up Storm Thorgerson for an authograph.
He seems to think he can corner the crotchity old guy!
;)

Marrdro
02-27-2008, 11:36 AM
"cogitans" wrote:


"Marrdro" wrote:


"AngloVike" wrote:


thats a pain waiting til then .... can't start working any plans up yet though I know we won't be over in October, due to the wife's work commitments. So think we'll be looking at Thanksgiving weekend again .

See, now that is quality input that will drive my decision.


I would love to time my trip to meet more of you guys, especially our overseas guys.
Need to get Cogs involved in this discussion as well.

;D
I start working on monday. So right now my future plans goes no further than 14 days.

To tell you the truth, I don't even know if I can expect to get any vacation time the first year, so I need to hold out for a little while longer.
I knew that but I was hoping none the less.
One day my friend, one day.
;D

Zeus
02-27-2008, 11:38 AM
"cogitans" wrote:


"Marrdro" wrote:


"AngloVike" wrote:


thats a pain waiting til then .... can't start working any plans up yet though I know we won't be over in October, due to the wife's work commitments. So think we'll be looking at Thanksgiving weekend again .

See, now that is quality input that will drive my decision.


I would love to time my trip to meet more of you guys, especially our overseas guys.
Need to get Cogs involved in this discussion as well.

;D


I start working on monday. So right now my future plans goes no further than 14 days.

To tell you the truth, I don't even know if I can expect to get any vacation time the first year, so I need to hold out for a little while longer.


Not get any vacation?
That's so un-European.
I thought you cats all got August off every year....

In any case, start saving those Euros now!
Bush is in office for a few more months, so the exchange rate is sure to be heavily in your favor!

=Z=

AngloVike
02-27-2008, 02:47 PM
"PacNWVike" wrote:


"AngloVike" wrote:


now if it could be the Packers game then we might even get PacNWVike to that tailgate as well
;D


My quest to meet Mr. & Mrs. Anglo!
Scott and I may bring a third Viking fanatic with us this year.
Historically we always seem to hit the Cheesedick visits, but we could see a different game if enough of your guys show up.
BTW Peter, a friend of mine is going to London on a business trip and he's going to try to look up Storm Thorgerson for an authograph.
He seems to think he can corner the crotchity old guy!
;)



well if he can corner the old sod then perhaps he should tell him what a bunch of wasters his staff are - no replies to several emails is not a good advert for business. Maybe this year is the year to meet
;D

Marrdro
02-27-2008, 03:00 PM
We actually should start a new thread on this when the dates actually come out.
I already got one going for the Tenn game.

Z needs to get in on that one.
;D

BadlandsVikings
02-27-2008, 03:03 PM
"Marrdro" wrote:


We actually should start a new thread on this when the dates actually come out.
I already got one going for the Tenn game.

Z needs to get in on that one.

;D


Lets leave right now
:D

Marrdro
02-27-2008, 03:05 PM
"BadlandsViking" wrote:


"Marrdro" wrote:


We actually should start a new thread on this when the dates actually come out.
I already got one going for the Tenn game.

Z needs to get in on that one.

;D


Lets leave right now
:D

I'm all for it.
Wonder if the boss will give me that much time off?


By the way, I see you rubbing it in that you and a friend are heading to Spring training.
Did you get your tickets changed to reflect a return stop in Southeaster VA or is it gonna be to cold for ya.
;D

cogitans
02-27-2008, 03:11 PM
"Zeus" wrote:


"cogitans" wrote:


"Marrdro" wrote:


"AngloVike" wrote:


thats a pain waiting til then .... can't start working any plans up yet though I know we won't be over in October, due to the wife's work commitments. So think we'll be looking at Thanksgiving weekend again .

See, now that is quality input that will drive my decision.


I would love to time my trip to meet more of you guys, especially our overseas guys.
Need to get Cogs involved in this discussion as well.
;D


I start working on monday. So right now my future plans goes no further than 14 days.

To tell you the truth, I don't even know if I can expect to get any vacation time the first year, so I need to hold out for a little while longer.


Not get any vacation?
That's so un-European.
I thought you cats all got August off every year....

In any case, start saving those Euros now!
Bush is in office for a few more months, so the exchange rate is sure to be heavily in your favor!

=Z=
I might be entitled to something at least in the summerperiod, but not having earned vacation payments, I might have to pay for my own vacation. I'm not sure how it'll be, as I haven't even met my employer yet. We'll see how it goes.

BadlandsVikings
02-27-2008, 03:12 PM
"Marrdro" wrote:


"BadlandsViking" wrote:


"Marrdro" wrote:


We actually should start a new thread on this when the dates actually come out.
I already got one going for the Tenn game.

Z needs to get in on that one.

;D


Lets leave right now
:D

I'm all for it.
Wonder if the boss will give me that much time off?


By the way, I see you rubbing it in that you and a friend are heading to Spring training.
Did you get your tickets changed to reflect a return stop in Southeaster VA or is it gonna be to cold for ya.

;D


Too cold
;D

Marrdro
02-27-2008, 03:13 PM
"cogitans" wrote:


"Zeus" wrote:


"cogitans" wrote:


"Marrdro" wrote:


"AngloVike" wrote:


thats a pain waiting til then .... can't start working any plans up yet though I know we won't be over in October, due to the wife's work commitments. So think we'll be looking at Thanksgiving weekend again .

See, now that is quality input that will drive my decision.


I would love to time my trip to meet more of you guys, especially our overseas guys.
Need to get Cogs involved in this discussion as well.

;D


I start working on monday. So right now my future plans goes no further than 14 days.

To tell you the truth, I don't even know if I can expect to get any vacation time the first year, so I need to hold out for a little while longer.


Not get any vacation?
That's so un-European.
I thought you cats all got August off every year....

In any case, start saving those Euros now!
Bush is in office for a few more months, so the exchange rate is sure to be heavily in your favor!

=Z=
I might be entitled to something at least in the summerperiod, but not having earned vacation payments, I might have to pay for my own vacation. I'm not sure how it'll be, as I haven't even met my employer yet. We'll see how it goes.

Good Lord willing, we can then target the 2009 season.


All the pieces will have been in place (team wise) and you would/will be guaranteed to see them win no matter what game you select.
Might be a bit hit and miss at times this year.
;D

Zeus
02-27-2008, 03:26 PM
"Marrdro" wrote:


We actually should start a new thread on this when the dates actually come out.
I already got one going for the Tenn game.

Z needs to get in on that one.

;D


Not bloody likely.
I use up enough good-will with The Wife by going to 10 games every fall.

=Z=

AngloVike
02-27-2008, 03:27 PM
"Zeus" wrote:


"Marrdro" wrote:


We actually should start a new thread on this when the dates actually come out.
I already got one going for the Tenn game.

Z needs to get in on that one.
;D


Not bloody likely.
I use up enough good-will with The Wife by going to 10 games every fall.

=Z=


Nice to see who is boss in the house of the Purple Prophet....

BloodyHorns82
02-27-2008, 03:30 PM
"Zeus" wrote:


"Marrdro" wrote:


We actually should start a new thread on this when the dates actually come out.
I already got one going for the Tenn game.

Z needs to get in on that one.

;D


Not bloody likely.
I use up enough good-will with The Wife by going to 10 games every fall.

=Z=


Just tell her you want to take her on a weekend getaway to TN for all she does for you and to get some quality time for the two of you.
Then somehow just slip in the fact that cooincidently you came across a great deal on a couple tickets for Sunday's game.
She gets a couple days in the beutiful hills of TN and you get the joy of her company and a Vikings game.
Win/Win situation.
;D

Zeus
02-27-2008, 03:30 PM
"AngloVike" wrote:


"Zeus" wrote:


"Marrdro" wrote:


We actually should start a new thread on this when the dates actually come out.
I already got one going for the Tenn game.

Z needs to get in on that one.

;D


Not bloody likely.
I use up enough good-will with The Wife by going to 10 games every fall.


Nice to see who is boss in the house of the Purple Prophet....


I'm like 4th on the list (just ahead of the cats, but behind the 3-month-old) in the "Who Gets Their Way" priority in my house right now.

=Z=

Marrdro
02-27-2008, 03:30 PM
"Zeus" wrote:


"Marrdro" wrote:


We actually should start a new thread on this when the dates actually come out.
I already got one going for the Tenn game.

Z needs to get in on that one.

;D


Not bloody likely.
I use up enough good-will with The Wife by going to 10 games every fall.

=Z=

I'm gonna be nice and pretend you didn't say that.
;D

Zeus
02-27-2008, 03:32 PM
"Marrdro" wrote:


"Zeus" wrote:


"Marrdro" wrote:


We actually should start a new thread on this when the dates actually come out.
I already got one going for the Tenn game.

Z needs to get in on that one.

;D


Not bloody likely.
I use up enough good-will with The Wife by going to 10 games every fall.


I'm gonna be nice and pretend you didn't say that.

;D


She's not even remotely interested in the Vikings, so I have to take what I can get.
And work hard to get it - because I want to make sure she has an easy day while I'm at the game.

=Z=

Marrdro
02-27-2008, 03:37 PM
"Zeus" wrote:


"Marrdro" wrote:


"Zeus" wrote:


"Marrdro" wrote:


We actually should start a new thread on this when the dates actually come out.
I already got one going for the Tenn game.

Z needs to get in on that one.

;D


Not bloody likely.
I use up enough good-will with The Wife by going to 10 games every fall.


I'm gonna be nice and pretend you didn't say that.

;D


She's not even remotely interested in the Vikings, so I have to take what I can get.
And work hard to get it - because I want to make sure she has an easy day while I'm at the game.

=Z=

See, I took a different tact.

I convinced her that she loved football, hunting and fishing and needed to support all of my endevours in that regard.

JK, the good lord blessed me when he pointed my dumb ass in the general direction of Wildwoman.
;D

BloodyHorns82
02-27-2008, 03:38 PM
"Zeus" wrote:


"Marrdro" wrote:


"Zeus" wrote:


"Marrdro" wrote:


We actually should start a new thread on this when the dates actually come out.
I already got one going for the Tenn game.

Z needs to get in on that one.

;D


Not bloody likely.
I use up enough good-will with The Wife by going to 10 games every fall.


I'm gonna be nice and pretend you didn't say that.

;D


She's not even remotely interested in the Vikings, so I have to take what I can get.
And work hard to get it - because I want to make sure she has an easy day while I'm at the game.

=Z=


As I partially stated earlier...take the wife with for a weekend getaway.
A Friday/Saturday in the mountains enjoying nothing but scenery and each other's company.
Sunday is gametime.
If she doesn't like football, I bet she wouldn't mind a day in the spa while you tailgate and watch the game.
:)

Zeus
02-27-2008, 04:28 PM
"BloodyHorns82" wrote:


"Zeus" wrote:


"Marrdro" wrote:


"Zeus" wrote:


"Marrdro" wrote:


We actually should start a new thread on this when the dates actually come out.
I already got one going for the Tenn game.

Z needs to get in on that one.

;D


Not bloody likely.
I use up enough good-will with The Wife by going to 10 games every fall.


I'm gonna be nice and pretend you didn't say that.

;D


She's not even remotely interested in the Vikings, so I have to take what I can get.
And work hard to get it - because I want to make sure she has an easy day while I'm at the game.


As I partially stated earlier...take the wife with for a weekend getaway.
A Friday/Saturday in the mountains enjoying nothing but scenery and each other's company.
Sunday is gametime.
If she doesn't like football, I bet she wouldn't mind a day in the spa while you tailgate and watch the game.
:)


Well, w/out relatives with whom we can dump the kiddies (ages:
4 and 3 months) then it's tough for her to get away - especially with the 3-month-old latched onto The Boob every 2 hours.

=Z=

cogitans
02-27-2008, 04:38 PM
"Marrdro" wrote:


"cogitans" wrote:


"Zeus" wrote:


"cogitans" wrote:


"Marrdro" wrote:




thats a pain waiting til then .... can't start working any plans up yet though I know we won't be over in October, due to the wife's work commitments. So think we'll be looking at Thanksgiving weekend again .

See, now that is quality input that will drive my decision.


I would love to time my trip to meet more of you guys, especially our overseas guys.
Need to get Cogs involved in this discussion as well.
;D


I start working on monday. So right now my future plans goes no further than 14 days.

To tell you the truth, I don't even know if I can expect to get any vacation time the first year, so I need to hold out for a little while longer.


Not get any vacation?
That's so un-European.
I thought you cats all got August off every year....

In any case, start saving those Euros now!
Bush is in office for a few more months, so the exchange rate is sure to be heavily in your favor!

=Z=
I might be entitled to something at least in the summerperiod, but not having earned vacation payments, I might have to pay for my own vacation. I'm not sure how it'll be, as I haven't even met my employer yet. We'll see how it goes.

Good Lord willing, we can then target the 2009 season.


All the pieces will have been in place (team wise) and you would/will be guaranteed to see them win no matter what game you select.
Might be a bit hit and miss at times this year.
;D
Just hold your breath. I might still make it this year. I just need some more time to figure out the ins and outs of my new job, the vacation that I might be entitled to, and my economic situation.

BadlandsVikings
02-27-2008, 08:04 PM
"Zeus" wrote:


"Marrdro" wrote:


We actually should start a new thread on this when the dates actually come out.
I already got one going for the Tenn game.

Z needs to get in on that one.

;D


Not bloody likely.
I use up enough good-will with The Wife by going to 10 games every fall.

=Z=


She'll let you go if you cut that down to 7 next year
:D

Zeus
02-28-2008, 08:29 AM
"BadlandsViking" wrote:


"Zeus" wrote:


"Marrdro" wrote:


We actually should start a new thread on this when the dates actually come out.
I already got one going for the Tenn game.

Z needs to get in on that one.

;D


Not bloody likely.
I use up enough good-will with The Wife by going to 10 games every fall.


She'll let you go if you cut that down to 7 next year
:D


Not gonna happen!
I'm thinking of trying to take the 4-year-old to a pre-season game.

=Z=

Marrdro
02-28-2008, 08:34 AM
"Zeus" wrote:


"BadlandsViking" wrote:


"Zeus" wrote:


"Marrdro" wrote:


We actually should start a new thread on this when the dates actually come out.
I already got one going for the Tenn game.

Z needs to get in on that one.

;D


Not bloody likely.
I use up enough good-will with The Wife by going to 10 games every fall.


She'll let you go if you cut that down to 7 next year
:D


Not gonna happen!
I'm thinking of trying to take the 4-year-old to a pre-season game.

=Z=

I started brining Wildman to the huntclub with me when he was 3 years old.
He saw me shoot a deer when he was 4.
He tried to help drag it out of the woods and was all into the gutting of it.

Zeus
02-28-2008, 08:46 AM
"Marrdro" wrote:


"Zeus" wrote:


"BadlandsViking" wrote:


"Zeus" wrote:


"Marrdro" wrote:


We actually should start a new thread on this when the dates actually come out.
I already got one going for the Tenn game.

Z needs to get in on that one.

;D


Not bloody likely.
I use up enough good-will with The Wife by going to 10 games every fall.


She'll let you go if you cut that down to 7 next year
:D


Not gonna happen!
I'm thinking of trying to take the 4-year-old to a pre-season game.


I started brining Wildman to the huntclub with me when he was 3 years old.
He saw me shoot a deer when he was 4.
He tried to help drag it out of the woods and was all into the gutting of it.


It's more a question of will she sit in her seat the whole game.
And how do I deal with the Metrodome bathroom situation if she needs to go.

=Z=

Marrdro
02-28-2008, 08:51 AM
"Zeus" wrote:


"Marrdro" wrote:


"Zeus" wrote:


"BadlandsViking" wrote:


"Zeus" wrote:




We actually should start a new thread on this when the dates actually come out.
I already got one going for the Tenn game.

Z needs to get in on that one.

;D


Not bloody likely.
I use up enough good-will with The Wife by going to 10 games every fall.


She'll let you go if you cut that down to 7 next year
:D


Not gonna happen!
I'm thinking of trying to take the 4-year-old to a pre-season game.


I started brining Wildman to the huntclub with me when he was 3 years old.
He saw me shoot a deer when he was 4.
He tried to help drag it out of the woods and was all into the gutting of it.


It's more a question of will she sit in her seat the whole game.
And how do I deal with the Metrodome bathroom situation if she needs to go.

=Z=

You have perfect seats.
Let her standup if she wants........
I didn't check/don't remember.
Aren't there stalls?

Cover her eyes as you go in and go to a stall.

NodakPaul
02-28-2008, 09:20 AM
I've been taking my kids to games since they were 2 and 3.
My daughter can't sit through a game, so she nly goes to preseason games with me.
That way if she gets bored we can leave at halftime.
My son can sit through a whole game though, and he has been to three or four regular season games with me.

nephilimstorm
02-28-2008, 09:29 AM
I watch a game, scream and bitch and have fun...the lady and baby are usually on the computer or sleeping..but how with all that noise lol

cogitans
03-07-2008, 06:02 PM
I think that I might be able to make it to a game this year. Somehow even if I have not earned paid vacation, I'll probably at least be able to afford to buy myself some.

Whenever they lay out the schedule, I think I'll start making plans somehow.

jmcdon00
03-07-2008, 06:50 PM
From my experience the home opener is the best game of the year. The weather is usually still nice, which makes for great tail gating. The optimism is very high and everyone seems to be in high spirits. I think it would be neat to get the biggest PPO group ever for that game. We could do a pot luck or something, plus take lots of pictures for the site. I guess a lot of it depends on what the schedule is. Plus maybe Ziggy will make an appearance again, that was the highlight of tailgating last year. ;D

Marrdro
03-07-2008, 07:06 PM
"cogitans" wrote:


I think that I might be able to make it to a game this year. Somehow even if I have not earned paid vacation, I'll probably at least be able to afford to buy myself some.

Whenever they lay out the schedule, I think I'll start making plans somehow.

That is excellent news my friend.
Let me know as soon as you figure it out and I will be sure to schedule my trip home then as well.

cogitans
03-07-2008, 07:15 PM
"Marrdro" wrote:


"cogitans" wrote:


I think that I might be able to make it to a game this year. Somehow even if I have not earned paid vacation, I'll probably at least be able to afford to buy myself some.

Whenever they lay out the schedule, I think I'll start making plans somehow.

That is excellent news my friend.
Let me know as soon as you figure it out and I will be sure to schedule my trip home then as well.
Do you remember when the schedule come out?

Marrdro
03-07-2008, 07:17 PM
"cogitans" wrote:


"Marrdro" wrote:


"cogitans" wrote:


I think that I might be able to make it to a game this year. Somehow even if I have not earned paid vacation, I'll probably at least be able to afford to buy myself some.

Whenever they lay out the schedule, I think I'll start making plans somehow.

That is excellent news my friend.
Let me know as soon as you figure it out and I will be sure to schedule my trip home then as well.
Do you remember when the schedule come out?

I did a google a few weeks ago and some of it is let out mid to late march.
I think Nodack said early April or something like that.
Plenty of time.
;D

singersp
03-07-2008, 07:27 PM
Home Game Arrangements - Best Time?

When they are playing a regular season game at home of course.

Marrdro
03-07-2008, 07:28 PM
"singersp" wrote:



Home Game Arrangements - Best Time?

When they are playing a regular season game at home of course.

We do need to start a new thread.
;D
;D
;D
;D

BadlandsVikings
03-07-2008, 10:55 PM
"singersp" wrote:



Home Game Arrangements - Best Time?

When they are playing a regular season game at home of course.


I feel so much smarter now
:D

Zeus
03-08-2008, 08:24 AM
"Marrdro" wrote:


"singersp" wrote:



Home Game Arrangements - Best Time?

When they are playing a regular season game at home of course.


We do need to start a new thread.

;D
;D
;D
;D


This thread is perfectly fine until there's actually something to plan.
No need to clutter up the place with new junk when the old junk still works.

=Z=

Marrdro
03-08-2008, 03:21 PM
"Zeus" wrote:


"Marrdro" wrote:


"singersp" wrote:



Home Game Arrangements - Best Time?

When they are playing a regular season game at home of course.


We do need to start a new thread.

;D
;D
;D
;D


This thread is perfectly fine until there's actually something to plan.
No need to clutter up the place with new junk when the old junk still works.

=Z=

Since when are you the voice of authority?
::)

Maybe I want a new thread.
Maybe Cogs doesn't feel comfortable talking arrangements in a thread for last season?

marcosMN
03-08-2008, 03:42 PM
"cogitans" wrote:


"Marrdro" wrote:


"cogitans" wrote:


I think that I might be able to make it to a game this year. Somehow even if I have not earned paid vacation, I'll probably at least be able to afford to buy myself some.

Whenever they lay out the schedule, I think I'll start making plans somehow.

That is excellent news my friend.
Let me know as soon as you figure it out and I will be sure to schedule my trip home then as well.
Do you remember when the schedule come out?


April 3rd


10:30 PM
NFL TOTAL ACCESS
2008 NFL Regular Season Schedule Announcement.

http://www.nfl.com/nflnetwork/networkschedule?selectedMonth=April&field=selectedDate&selectedDate=04/03/2008

NodakPaul
03-08-2008, 04:44 PM
"SnoBumMN" wrote:


"cogitans" wrote:


"Marrdro" wrote:


"cogitans" wrote:


I think that I might be able to make it to a game this year. Somehow even if I have not earned paid vacation, I'll probably at least be able to afford to buy myself some.

Whenever they lay out the schedule, I think I'll start making plans somehow.

That is excellent news my friend.
Let me know as soon as you figure it out and I will be sure to schedule my trip home then as well.
Do you remember when the schedule come out?


April 3rd


10:30 PM
NFL TOTAL ACCESS
2008 NFL Regular Season Schedule Announcement.

http://www.nfl.com/nflnetwork/networkschedule?selectedMonth=April&field=selectedDate&selectedDate=04/03/2008


Whoo Hoo!
I'll be emailing my boss to tell him that I am taking April 3rd off from work...
I watched the NFATA schedule release last year.
They actually put quite a bit of intelligent commentary around it, and I will definitely watch it again.

singersp
03-08-2008, 10:00 PM
"NodakPaul" wrote:


"SnoBumMN" wrote:


"cogitans" wrote:


"Marrdro" wrote:


"cogitans" wrote:


I think that I might be able to make it to a game this year. Somehow even if I have not earned paid vacation, I'll probably at least be able to afford to buy myself some.

Whenever they lay out the schedule, I think I'll start making plans somehow.

That is excellent news my friend.
Let me know as soon as you figure it out and I will be sure to schedule my trip home then as well.
Do you remember when the schedule come out?


April 3rd


10:30 PM
NFL TOTAL ACCESS
2008 NFL Regular Season Schedule Announcement.

http://www.nfl.com/nflnetwork/networkschedule?selectedMonth=April&field=selectedDate&selectedDate=04/03/2008


Whoo Hoo!
I'll be emailing my boss to tell him that I am taking April 3rd off from work...
I watched the NFATA schedule release last year.
They actually put quite a bit of intelligent commentary around it, and I will definitely watch it again.


Seriously? I never knew they put that much emphasis & hoopla around it other than releasing it to the press.

Who covers it? NFL Network? ESPN?

Zeus
03-09-2008, 07:39 AM
"Marrdro" wrote:


"Zeus" wrote:


"Marrdro" wrote:


"singersp" wrote:



Home Game Arrangements - Best Time?

When they are playing a regular season game at home of course.


We do need to start a new thread.

;D
;D
;D
;D


This thread is perfectly fine until there's actually something to plan.
No need to clutter up the place with new junk when the old junk still works.


Since when are you the voice of authority?

::)

Maybe I want a new thread.
Maybe Cogs doesn't feel comfortable talking arrangements in a thread for last season?


You gave me a frowny face?
Did that cause me to change columns on the spreadsheet?

=Z=

Marrdro
03-09-2008, 07:52 AM
"Zeus" wrote:


"Marrdro" wrote:


"Zeus" wrote:


"Marrdro" wrote:


"singersp" wrote:



Home Game Arrangements - Best Time?

When they are playing a regular season game at home of course.


We do need to start a new thread.

;D
;D
;D
;D


This thread is perfectly fine until there's actually something to plan.
No need to clutter up the place with new junk when the old junk still works.


Since when are you the voice of authority?

::)

Maybe I want a new thread.
Maybe Cogs doesn't feel comfortable talking arrangements in a thread for last season?


You gave me a frowny face?
Did that cause me to change columns on the spreadsheet?

=Z=

Thats not a frowny, but a face of question....

PacNWVike
03-11-2008, 12:15 AM
"Marrdro" wrote:


"Zeus" wrote:


"Marrdro" wrote:


"Zeus" wrote:


"Marrdro" wrote:





Home Game Arrangements - Best Time?

When they are playing a regular season game at home of course.


We do need to start a new thread.

;D
;D
;D
;D


This thread is perfectly fine until there's actually something to plan.
No need to clutter up the place with new junk when the old junk still works.


Since when are you the voice of authority?

::)

Maybe I want a new thread.
Maybe Cogs doesn't feel comfortable talking arrangements in a thread for last season?


You gave me a frowny face?
Did that cause me to change columns on the spreadsheet?

=Z=

Thats not a frowny, but a face of question....


Hmmm...
I dunno my friend.
I think it's a "whatever" kind of face.

marcosMN
03-11-2008, 10:07 AM
"singersp" wrote:


"NodakPaul" wrote:


"SnoBumMN" wrote:


"cogitans" wrote:


"Marrdro" wrote:




I think that I might be able to make it to a game this year. Somehow even if I have not earned paid vacation, I'll probably at least be able to afford to buy myself some.

Whenever they lay out the schedule, I think I'll start making plans somehow.

That is excellent news my friend.
Let me know as soon as you figure it out and I will be sure to schedule my trip home then as well.
Do you remember when the schedule come out?


April 3rd


10:30 PM
NFL TOTAL ACCESS
2008 NFL Regular Season Schedule Announcement.

http://www.nfl.com/nflnetwork/networkschedule?selectedMonth=April&field=selectedDate&selectedDate=04/03/2008


Whoo Hoo!
I'll be emailing my boss to tell him that I am taking April 3rd off from work...
I watched the NFATA schedule release last year.
They actually put quite a bit of intelligent commentary around it, and I will definitely watch it again.


Seriously? I never knew they put that much emphasis & hoopla around it other than releasing it to the press.

Who covers it? NFL Network? ESPN?


The link directs you to an NFL Net site, so I think that's where it will be aired.

NodakPaul
03-11-2008, 10:18 AM
"SnoBumMN" wrote:


"singersp" wrote:


"NodakPaul" wrote:


"SnoBumMN" wrote:


"cogitans" wrote:






I think that I might be able to make it to a game this year. Somehow even if I have not earned paid vacation, I'll probably at least be able to afford to buy myself some.

Whenever they lay out the schedule, I think I'll start making plans somehow.

That is excellent news my friend.
Let me know as soon as you figure it out and I will be sure to schedule my trip home then as well.
Do you remember when the schedule come out?


April 3rd


10:30 PM
NFL TOTAL ACCESS
2008 NFL Regular Season Schedule Announcement.

http://www.nfl.com/nflnetwork/networkschedule?selectedMonth=April&field=selectedDate&selectedDate=04/03/2008


Whoo Hoo!
I'll be emailing my boss to tell him that I am taking April 3rd off from work...
I watched the NFATA schedule release last year.
They actually put quite a bit of intelligent commentary around it, and I will definitely watch it again.


Seriously? I never knew they put that much emphasis & hoopla around it other than releasing it to the press.

Who covers it? NFL Network? ESPN?


The link directs you to an NFL Net site, so I think that's where it will be aired.


Yup.
NFLN spends the whole morning talking about each teama nd the opponents that they will face, any prime time games already announced, etc.
Then when the schedule is released, the NFL TA guys (who get a copy of the schedule in the morning) go through each team's schedule and talk about the games - which ones will be tough, which ones are winnable, which ones will draw the viewers, etc.
I suspect that we will see a lot of coverage with AD this year, so I am excited.

The NFL is a very good example of progressive marketing.
They have taken things as mundane as the schedule release and the draft and made them into marketable events.

Zeus
03-11-2008, 10:26 AM
"NodakPaul" wrote:


The NFL is a very good example of progressive marketing.
They have taken things as mundane as the schedule release and the draft and made them into marketable events.


Too bad no one's watching and they're having to lay people off from NFL Films.

=Z=

NodakPaul
03-11-2008, 10:38 AM
"Zeus" wrote:


"NodakPaul" wrote:


The NFL is a very good example of progressive marketing.
They have taken things as mundane as the schedule release and the draft and made them into marketable events.


Too bad no one's watching and they're having to lay people off from NFL Films.

=Z=


That would make sense as an argument if NFL Films was actually a part of NFLN, or even produced content on a regular basis for them.
But since the bread and butter series for NFL Films ran on HBO, and was just canceled by HBO, I have a hard time drawing the connection. ;)

Besides, both events are covered on other stations as well - it is just that NFLN does it the best.
Last year's draft was watched by an estimated 5.5 million households.

You're just bitter because you have a shitty cable company that won't give you NFLN.
If you got it, you know that you would be watching too.

Zeus
03-11-2008, 10:43 AM
"NodakPaul" wrote:


"Zeus" wrote:


"NodakPaul" wrote:


The NFL is a very good example of progressive marketing.
They have taken things as mundane as the schedule release and the draft and made them into marketable events.


Too bad no one's watching and they're having to lay people off from NFL Films.


That would make sense as an argument if NFL Films was actually a part of NFLN, or even produced content on a regular basis for them.
But since the bread and butter series for NFL Films ran on HBO, and was just canceled by HBO, I have a hard time drawing the connection. ;)

Sorry you have a hard time.
The media analysts today are not having a hard time making that connection.


Besides, both events are covered on other stations as well - it is just that NFLN does it the best.
Last year's draft was watched by an estimated 5.5 million households.

You're just bitter because you have a shitty cable company that won't give you NFLN.
If you got it, you know that you would be watching too.


We're talking about the schedule announcement, not the draft.

And I'm not bitter about not having NFLN.
Would I rather have it than the Tennis Channel?
You betcha.
Do I feel that my mother, who doesn't care about the NFL, should have to pay so I can watch it?
No frigging way.

=Z=

BloodyHorns82
03-11-2008, 10:49 AM
I'll have to setup the DVR to record this.
Nodak made it sound pretty interesting.

As far as NFLN goes, I really like their programming for the most part.
They manage to keep watchable television even throughout the offseason.
The best NFL show ever was just canceled by HBO though.
>:(
Oh well, I wasn't an HBO subscriber anyways.
Only watched it in hotel rooms while on business trips.

Marrdro
03-11-2008, 10:51 AM
"Zeus" wrote:


"NodakPaul" wrote:


The NFL is a very good example of progressive marketing.
They have taken things as mundane as the schedule release and the draft and made them into marketable events.


Too bad no one's watching and they're having to lay people off from NFL Films.

=Z=

You'd like to believe no one is watching.
I watch every evening at 7:00 PM EST time and when they have specific shows on that I am interested in.

jargomcfargo
03-11-2008, 10:51 AM
"NodakPaul" wrote:


"Zeus" wrote:


"NodakPaul" wrote:


The NFL is a very good example of progressive marketing.
They have taken things as mundane as the schedule release and the draft and made them into marketable events.


Too bad no one's watching and they're having to lay people off from NFL Films.

=Z=


That would make sense as an argument if NFL Films was actually a part of NFLN, or even produced content on a regular basis for them.
But since the bread and butter series for NFL Films ran on HBO, and was just canceled by HBO, I have a hard time drawing the connection. ;)

Besides, both events are covered on other stations as well - it is just that NFLN does it the best.
Last year's draft was watched by an estimated 5.5 million households.

You're just bitter because you have a poohie cable company that won't give you NFLN.
If you got it, you know that you would be watching too.


Marketing ploys aside. NFLN is indispenseable at the McFargo household. You can tell who watches it by their posts at times. It's like NFL heroin to a football junkie.

Zeus
03-11-2008, 10:52 AM
"BloodyHorns82" wrote:


I'll have to setup the DVR to record this.
Nodak made it sound pretty interesting.

As far as NFLN goes, I really like their programming for the most part.
They manage to keep watchable television even throughout the offseason.
The best NFL show ever was just canceled by HBO though.
>:(

Oh well, I wasn't an HBO subscriber anyways.
Only watched it in hotel rooms while on business trips.


According to reports I've read, "Inside the NFL" was canceled because HBO and NFL Films (read:
The NFL) could not come to an agreement on the $$$.
Strangely, the NFL was over-valuing its own product.

Shocker, eh?

=Z=

Marrdro
03-11-2008, 10:53 AM
"BloodyHorns82" wrote:


I'll have to setup the DVR to record this.
Nodak made it sound pretty interesting.

As far as NFLN goes, I really like their programming for the most part.
They manage to keep watchable television even throughout the offseason.
The best NFL show ever was just canceled by HBO though.
>:(

Oh well, I wasn't an HBO subscriber anyways.
Only watched it in hotel rooms while on business trips.

Wait, I thought Z said no one watched NFLN?
;D

Zeus
03-11-2008, 10:53 AM
"Marrdro" wrote:


"Zeus" wrote:


"NodakPaul" wrote:


The NFL is a very good example of progressive marketing.
They have taken things as mundane as the schedule release and the draft and made them into marketable events.


Too bad no one's watching and they're having to lay people off from NFL Films.


You'd like to believe no one is watching.
I watch every evening at 7:00 PM EST time and when they have specific shows on that I am interested in.


Just because YOU watch, Marty, does not mean lots of people are.

The lowest-rated program on the CW gets higher ratings than anything on NFLN, outside of games.

=Z=

Marrdro
03-11-2008, 10:54 AM
"Zeus" wrote:


"BloodyHorns82" wrote:


I'll have to setup the DVR to record this.
Nodak made it sound pretty interesting.

As far as NFLN goes, I really like their programming for the most part.
They manage to keep watchable television even throughout the offseason.
The best NFL show ever was just canceled by HBO though.
>:(

Oh well, I wasn't an HBO subscriber anyways.
Only watched it in hotel rooms while on business trips.


According to reports I've read, "Inside the NFL" was canceled because HBO and NFL Films (read:
The NFL) could not come to an agreement on the $$$.
Strangely, the NFL was over-valuing its own product.

Shocker, eh?

=Z=

Somehow I've missed your disdain for the NFLN.
Do you really feel that way or are you just kidding?

Truth be told and all kidding aside I love the channel, especially the AFC and NFC Playbooks.
Best film breakdown I've ever seen on TV.

BloodyHorns82
03-11-2008, 10:54 AM
"Marrdro" wrote:


"BloodyHorns82" wrote:


I'll have to setup the DVR to record this.
Nodak made it sound pretty interesting.

As far as NFLN goes, I really like their programming for the most part.
They manage to keep watchable television even throughout the offseason.
The best NFL show ever was just canceled by HBO though.
>:(

Oh well, I wasn't an HBO subscriber anyways.
Only watched it in hotel rooms while on business trips.

Wait, I thought Z said no one watched NFLN?

;D


Throughout the pre/regular season, I fall asleep to that channel every night...
Now it is DVR'd King of Queen's re-runs.
;D

BloodyHorns82
03-11-2008, 10:59 AM
"Zeus" wrote:


"Marrdro" wrote:


"Zeus" wrote:


"NodakPaul" wrote:


The NFL is a very good example of progressive marketing.
They have taken things as mundane as the schedule release and the draft and made them into marketable events.


Too bad no one's watching and they're having to lay people off from NFL Films.


You'd like to believe no one is watching.
I watch every evening at 7:00 PM EST time and when they have specific shows on that I am interested in.


Just because YOU watch, Marty, does not mean lots of people are.

The lowest-rated program on the CW gets higher ratings than anything on NFLN, outside of games.

=Z=


I think I can see Z's point here.
It's certainly not a channel for a non NFL fan, or in many cases, even a casual NFL fan...and thus I can understand the low ratings.
Another downside is they re-air a lot of the programing continuously...ESPECIALLY during the offseason.

The regular season coverage and highlights are fantastic for fantasy football players...

Zeus
03-11-2008, 11:03 AM
"Marrdro" wrote:


"BloodyHorns82" wrote:


I'll have to setup the DVR to record this.
Nodak made it sound pretty interesting.

As far as NFLN goes, I really like their programming for the most part.
They manage to keep watchable television even throughout the offseason.
The best NFL show ever was just canceled by HBO though.
>:(

Oh well, I wasn't an HBO subscriber anyways.
Only watched it in hotel rooms while on business trips.


Wait, I thought Z said no one watched NFLN?

;D


Here's a brief example.


http://tvbythenumbers.com/2007/12/20/weekly-top-cable-networks-december-10-16/2190


Weekly Top Cable Networks: December 10-16
December 20th, 2007 by Bill Gorman
Email This
Top 20 Cable Networks by Primetime Viewers, December 10-16:

RANK NET Average Viewers Live+SD (million) Last Week
1 USA 2.950 2
2 Family 2.580 3
3 Disney 2.569 4
4 TNT 2.455 5
5 TBS 2.265 6
6 Lifetime 2.028 7
7 ESPN 1.989 1
8 Hallmark 1.789 9
9 Fox News 1.540 10
10 A&E 1.483 12
11 Nick at Night 1.415 11
12 SPIKE 1.327 13
13 MTV 1.312 19
14 Cartoon Network 1.253 15
15 Court TV 1.192 17
16 History Channel 1.187 16
17 AMC 1.174

18 SCIFI 1.143 8
19 FX 1.143 14
20 Discovery Channel 1.074 18



Do YOU see NFLN there?

Please note that I picked a week RIGHT IN THE HEART of the NFL playoff push.

(Oh - and just so you know, I'm already prepared for the next half-hearted attempt at defending NFLN.)

=Z=

Zeus
03-11-2008, 11:07 AM
"Marrdro" wrote:


Somehow I've missed your disdain for the NFLN.
Do you really feel that way or are you just kidding?

Truth be told and all kidding aside I love the channel, especially the AFC and NFC Playbooks.
Best film breakdown I've ever seen on TV.


I do not have disdain for NFLN, as a broadcaster of football stuff.

I have disdain for the NFL trying to shove their niche NFLN down the throats of ALL consumers, whether or not they want it.
I am on record as saying I would gladly pay their fee to have NFLN on my digital sports tier, but to force people like my mom to pay for it is extortion, plain and simple.

=Z=

BloodyHorns82
03-11-2008, 11:08 AM
"Zeus" wrote:


"Marrdro" wrote:


"BloodyHorns82" wrote:


I'll have to setup the DVR to record this.
Nodak made it sound pretty interesting.

As far as NFLN goes, I really like their programming for the most part.
They manage to keep watchable television even throughout the offseason.
The best NFL show ever was just canceled by HBO though.
>:(

Oh well, I wasn't an HBO subscriber anyways.
Only watched it in hotel rooms while on business trips.


Wait, I thought Z said no one watched NFLN?

;D


Here's a brief example.


http://tvbythenumbers.com/2007/12/20/weekly-top-cable-networks-december-10-16/2190


Weekly Top Cable Networks: December 10-16
December 20th, 2007 by Bill Gorman
Email This
Top 20 Cable Networks by Primetime Viewers, December 10-16:

RANK NET Average Viewers Live+SD (million) Last Week
1 USA 2.950 2
2 Family 2.580 3
3 Disney 2.569 4
4 TNT 2.455 5
5 TBS 2.265 6
6 Lifetime 2.028 7
7 ESPN 1.989 1
8 Hallmark 1.789 9
9 Fox News 1.540 10
10 A&E 1.483 12
11 Nick at Night 1.415 11
12 SPIKE 1.327 13
13 MTV 1.312 19
14 Cartoon Network 1.253 15
15 Court TV 1.192 17
16 History Channel 1.187 16
17 AMC 1.174


18 SCIFI 1.143 8
19 FX 1.143 14
20 Discovery Channel 1.074 18



Do YOU see NFLN there?

Please note that I picked a week RIGHT IN THE HEART of the NFL playoff push.

(Oh - and just so you know, I'm already prepared for the next half-hearted attempt at defending NFLN.)

=Z=


I'll give it a shot.
;D

NFLN isn't aired by many cable companies and thus not even available to millions of viewers, hence lower ratings.
Your ratings argument is flawed.

Zeus
03-11-2008, 11:13 AM
"BloodyHorns82" wrote:


"Zeus" wrote:


"Marrdro" wrote:


"BloodyHorns82" wrote:


I'll have to setup the DVR to record this.
Nodak made it sound pretty interesting.

As far as NFLN goes, I really like their programming for the most part.
They manage to keep watchable television even throughout the offseason.
The best NFL show ever was just canceled by HBO though.
>:(

Oh well, I wasn't an HBO subscriber anyways.
Only watched it in hotel rooms while on business trips.


Wait, I thought Z said no one watched NFLN?

;D


Here's a brief example.


http://tvbythenumbers.com/2007/12/20/weekly-top-cable-networks-december-10-16/2190


Weekly Top Cable Networks: December 10-16
December 20th, 2007 by Bill Gorman
Email This
Top 20 Cable Networks by Primetime Viewers, December 10-16:

RANK NET Average Viewers Live+SD (million) Last Week
1 USA 2.950 2
2 Family 2.580 3
3 Disney 2.569 4
4 TNT 2.455 5
5 TBS 2.265 6
6 Lifetime 2.028 7
7 ESPN 1.989 1
8 Hallmark 1.789 9
9 Fox News 1.540 10
10 A&E 1.483 12
11 Nick at Night 1.415 11
12 SPIKE 1.327 13
13 MTV 1.312 19
14 Cartoon Network 1.253 15
15 Court TV 1.192 17
16 History Channel 1.187 16
17 AMC 1.174


18 SCIFI 1.143 8
19 FX 1.143 14
20 Discovery Channel 1.074 18



Do YOU see NFLN there?

Please note that I picked a week RIGHT IN THE HEART of the NFL playoff push.

(Oh - and just so you know, I'm already prepared for the next half-hearted attempt at defending NFLN.)


I'll give it a shot.
;D

NFLN isn't aired by many cable companies and thus not even available to millions of viewers, hence lower ratings.
Your ratings argument is flawed.


Thanks, BH!


So - what you're saying is that by pricing themselves so that they are accessible to all cable consumers, the networks above have been able to extend their reach into American households, allowing them to top the ratings charts and, thus, charge the highest adverstising rates?

=Z=

Marrdro
03-11-2008, 11:19 AM
"Zeus" wrote:


"Marrdro" wrote:


"BloodyHorns82" wrote:


I'll have to setup the DVR to record this.
Nodak made it sound pretty interesting.

As far as NFLN goes, I really like their programming for the most part.
They manage to keep watchable television even throughout the offseason.
The best NFL show ever was just canceled by HBO though.
>:(

Oh well, I wasn't an HBO subscriber anyways.
Only watched it in hotel rooms while on business trips.


Wait, I thought Z said no one watched NFLN?

;D


Here's a brief example.


http://tvbythenumbers.com/2007/12/20/weekly-top-cable-networks-december-10-16/2190


Weekly Top Cable Networks: December 10-16
December 20th, 2007 by Bill Gorman
Email This
Top 20 Cable Networks by Primetime Viewers, December 10-16:

RANK NET Average Viewers Live+SD (million) Last Week
1 USA 2.950 2
2 Family 2.580 3
3 Disney 2.569 4
4 TNT 2.455 5
5 TBS 2.265 6
6 Lifetime 2.028 7
7 ESPN 1.989 1
8 Hallmark 1.789 9
9 Fox News 1.540 10
10 A&E 1.483 12
11 Nick at Night 1.415 11
12 SPIKE 1.327 13
13 MTV 1.312 19
14 Cartoon Network 1.253 15
15 Court TV 1.192 17
16 History Channel 1.187 16
17 AMC 1.174


18 SCIFI 1.143 8
19 FX 1.143 14
20 Discovery Channel 1.074 18



Do YOU see NFLN there?

Please note that I picked a week RIGHT IN THE HEART of the NFL playoff push.

(Oh - and just so you know, I'm already prepared for the next half-hearted attempt at defending NFLN.)

=Z=

You aren't kidding. You really do have a beef.
Sometimes it is hard to read you.

Not gonna defend them, but I will say that I watch it alot of course I contribute to 7, 10 and 16 as well.
You can keep the rest.
Part of my programing on the satty.
;D

NodakPaul
03-11-2008, 11:56 AM
"Zeus" wrote:


"BloodyHorns82" wrote:


"Zeus" wrote:


"Marrdro" wrote:


"BloodyHorns82" wrote:


I'll have to setup the DVR to record this.
Nodak made it sound pretty interesting.

As far as NFLN goes, I really like their programming for the most part.
They manage to keep watchable television even throughout the offseason.
The best NFL show ever was just canceled by HBO though.
>:(
Oh well, I wasn't an HBO subscriber anyways.
Only watched it in hotel rooms while on business trips.


Wait, I thought Z said no one watched NFLN?
;D


Here's a brief example.


http://tvbythenumbers.com/2007/12/20/weekly-top-cable-networks-december-10-16/2190


Weekly Top Cable Networks: December 10-16
December 20th, 2007 by Bill Gorman
Email This
Top 20 Cable Networks by Primetime Viewers, December 10-16:

RANK NET Average Viewers Live+SD (million) Last Week
1 USA 2.950 2
2 Family 2.580 3
3 Disney 2.569 4
4 TNT 2.455 5
5 TBS 2.265 6
6 Lifetime 2.028 7
7 ESPN 1.989 1
8 Hallmark 1.789 9
9 Fox News 1.540 10
10 A&E 1.483 12
11 Nick at Night 1.415 11
12 SPIKE 1.327 13
13 MTV 1.312 19
14 Cartoon Network 1.253 15
15 Court TV 1.192 17
16 History Channel 1.187 16
17 AMC 1.174

18 SCIFI 1.143 8
19 FX 1.143 14
20 Discovery Channel 1.074 18



Do YOU see NFLN there?

Please note that I picked a week RIGHT IN THE HEART of the NFL playoff push.

(Oh - and just so you know, I'm already prepared for the next half-hearted attempt at defending NFLN.)


I'll give it a shot.
;D

NFLN isn't aired by many cable companies and thus not even available to millions of viewers, hence lower ratings.
Your ratings argument is flawed.


Thanks, BH!


So - what you're saying is that by pricing themselves so that they are accessible to all cable consumers, the networks above have been able to extend their reach into American households, allowing them to top the ratings charts and, thus, charge the highest adverstising rates?

=Z=


Weird that the two satellite tv providers didn't think that the price was too high...
Oh yeah, and they didn't jack the price to get it either, so people who don't watch it don't have to pay for it anymore than I have to pay for the home shopping network.

Marr- yes, Z has always had a beef with NFLN.
He thinks that the cable companies are the victims in the standoff.
In reality, the consumers are the victims.
The cable companies aren't looking out for the average consumer - they are trying to find a way to maximize their profit, just like the NFLN is.


I think that they could both afford to give a little, but Comcast and TW have made it clear that in their eyes cable channels depend on the cable providers, and not the other way around.
I don't agree with that at all.

Zeus
03-11-2008, 11:57 AM
"Marrdro" wrote:


You aren't kidding. You really do have a beef.
Sometimes it is hard to read you.

Not gonna defend them, but I will say that I watch it alot of course I contribute to 7, 10 and 16 as well.
You can keep the rest.
Part of my programing on the satty.

;D


My biggest beef is the irrational belief that EVERYONE wants NFLN.
We are all huge football fans here, so it's a given that we believe NFLN to be good.

However, I have lots of relatives and friends - as I'm sure you do - who just don't care.
Forcing them to pay for it (which is the position of the NFL) just isn't right.
That's what gets me going - the arrogance of the NFL.

=Z=

BloodyHorns82
03-11-2008, 12:00 PM
"Zeus" wrote:


"BloodyHorns82" wrote:


"Zeus" wrote:


"Marrdro" wrote:


"BloodyHorns82" wrote:


I'll have to setup the DVR to record this.
Nodak made it sound pretty interesting.

As far as NFLN goes, I really like their programming for the most part.
They manage to keep watchable television even throughout the offseason.
The best NFL show ever was just canceled by HBO though.
>:(

Oh well, I wasn't an HBO subscriber anyways.
Only watched it in hotel rooms while on business trips.


Wait, I thought Z said no one watched NFLN?

;D


Here's a brief example.


http://tvbythenumbers.com/2007/12/20/weekly-top-cable-networks-december-10-16/2190


Weekly Top Cable Networks: December 10-16
December 20th, 2007 by Bill Gorman
Email This
Top 20 Cable Networks by Primetime Viewers, December 10-16:

RANK NET Average Viewers Live+SD (million) Last Week
1 USA 2.950 2
2 Family 2.580 3
3 Disney 2.569 4
4 TNT 2.455 5
5 TBS 2.265 6
6 Lifetime 2.028 7
7 ESPN 1.989 1
8 Hallmark 1.789 9
9 Fox News 1.540 10
10 A&E 1.483 12
11 Nick at Night 1.415 11
12 SPIKE 1.327 13
13 MTV 1.312 19
14 Cartoon Network 1.253 15
15 Court TV 1.192 17
16 History Channel 1.187 16
17 AMC 1.174


18 SCIFI 1.143 8
19 FX 1.143 14
20 Discovery Channel 1.074 18



Do YOU see NFLN there?

Please note that I picked a week RIGHT IN THE HEART of the NFL playoff push.

(Oh - and just so you know, I'm already prepared for the next half-hearted attempt at defending NFLN.)


I'll give it a shot.
;D

NFLN isn't aired by many cable companies and thus not even available to millions of viewers, hence lower ratings.
Your ratings argument is flawed.


Thanks, BH!


So - what you're saying is that by pricing themselves so that they are accessible to all cable consumers, the networks above have been able to extend their reach into American households, allowing them to top the ratings charts and, thus, charge the highest adverstising rates?

=Z=



My main defense (for NFLN) is that the programming they do offer is adequate...not GREAT, but adequate.
I enjoy watching during the season and I like the deep, constant NFL coverage.
Certainly not worth paying a premium for (for most)...although I did switch from cable to satellite just to have the channel so I am guilty in some regard.


This whole fiasco between the cable companies and NFLN is like watching two kids fighting on the playground, it's childish and stupid.

NodakPaul
03-11-2008, 12:00 PM
"Zeus" wrote:


"Marrdro" wrote:


You aren't kidding. You really do have a beef.
Sometimes it is hard to read you.

Not gonna defend them, but I will say that I watch it alot of course I contribute to 7, 10 and 16 as well.
You can keep the rest.
Part of my programing on the satty.
;D


My biggest beef is the irrational belief that EVERYONE wants NFLN.
We are all huge football fans here, so it's a given that we believe NFLN to be good.

However, I have lots of relatives and friends - as I'm sure you do - who just don't care.
Forcing them to pay for it (which is the position of the NFL) just isn't right.
That's what gets me going - the arrogance of the NFL.

=Z=


My wife doesn't watch Discovery or the History channel.
Why should she have to pay for it as part of the basic package?
Why should I have to pay for TLC.

What about Oxygen - the self advertised Women's Channel?
You don't think that that has a smaller viewer base than NFLN.

The NFLN isn't saying that EVERYONE wants to watch it.
It is saying that the most economical way for the average consumer to have access to it is by putting it on the basic package.
The cable companies see it as an opportunity to pad their sagging profits.

NodakPaul
03-11-2008, 12:02 PM
"BloodyHorns82" wrote:


This whole fiasco between the cable companies and NFLN is like watching two kids fighting on the playground, it's childish and stupid.


Agreed.
They could easily work out a deal that is profitable for both of them if they would just stop being selfish.

BloodyHorns82
03-11-2008, 12:05 PM
"Zeus" wrote:


"Marrdro" wrote:


You aren't kidding. You really do have a beef.
Sometimes it is hard to read you.

Not gonna defend them, but I will say that I watch it alot of course I contribute to 7, 10 and 16 as well.
You can keep the rest.
Part of my programing on the satty.

;D


My biggest beef is the irrational belief that EVERYONE wants NFLN.
We are all huge football fans here, so it's a given that we believe NFLN to be good.

However, I have lots of relatives and friends - as I'm sure you do - who just don't care.
Forcing them to pay for it (which is the position of the NFL) just isn't right.
That's what gets me going - the arrogance of the NFL.

=Z=


That is the cable companies fault.

I don't pay anything extra for NFL network.
On DishNetwork, it comes included on the most basic package you can buy.
Which is right where it should be. As far as I know,
they didn't increase the prices with the addition of NFLN years back, but I could be mistaken.

I got roped into a higher bracket because I couldn't get FSN North without upgrading to the 3rd tier of programming.

Works like this (which is stupid)

Tier 1 (cheapest):
Has NFLN but not FSN
Tier 2 (mid):



Has FSN but not NFLN
Tier 3 ($$$):



Has both.
Tier 4 ($$$):



Has both, but people should make fun of you for how much you spend on cable
;D J/K

jmcdon00
03-11-2008, 12:14 PM
"BloodyHorns82" wrote:


"Zeus" wrote:


"BloodyHorns82" wrote:


"Zeus" wrote:


"Marrdro" wrote:




I'll have to setup the DVR to record this.
Nodak made it sound pretty interesting.

As far as NFLN goes, I really like their programming for the most part.
They manage to keep watchable television even throughout the offseason.
The best NFL show ever was just canceled by HBO though.
>:(

Oh well, I wasn't an HBO subscriber anyways.
Only watched it in hotel rooms while on business trips.


Wait, I thought Z said no one watched NFLN?

;D


Here's a brief example.


http://tvbythenumbers.com/2007/12/20/weekly-top-cable-networks-december-10-16/2190


Weekly Top Cable Networks: December 10-16
December 20th, 2007 by Bill Gorman
Email This
Top 20 Cable Networks by Primetime Viewers, December 10-16:

RANK NET Average Viewers Live+SD (million) Last Week
1 USA 2.950 2
2 Family 2.580 3
3 Disney 2.569 4
4 TNT 2.455 5
5 TBS 2.265 6
6 Lifetime 2.028 7
7 ESPN 1.989 1
8 Hallmark 1.789 9
9 Fox News 1.540 10
10 A&E 1.483 12
11 Nick at Night 1.415 11
12 SPIKE 1.327 13
13 MTV 1.312 19
14 Cartoon Network 1.253 15
15 Court TV 1.192 17
16 History Channel 1.187 16
17 AMC 1.174


18 SCIFI 1.143 8
19 FX 1.143 14
20 Discovery Channel 1.074 18



Do YOU see NFLN there?

Please note that I picked a week RIGHT IN THE HEART of the NFL playoff push.

(Oh - and just so you know, I'm already prepared for the next half-hearted attempt at defending NFLN.)


I'll give it a shot.
;D

NFLN isn't aired by many cable companies and thus not even available to millions of viewers, hence lower ratings.
Your ratings argument is flawed.


Thanks, BH!


So - what you're saying is that by pricing themselves so that they are accessible to all cable consumers, the networks above have been able to extend their reach into American households, allowing them to top the ratings charts and, thus, charge the highest adverstising rates?

=Z=



My main defense (for NFLN) is that the programming they do offer is adequate...not GREAT, but adequate.
I enjoy watching during the season and I like the deep, constant NFL coverage.
Certainly not worth paying a premium for (for most)...although I did switch from cable to satellite just to have the channel so I am guilty in some regard.


This whole fiasco between the cable companies and NFLN is like watching two kids fighting on the playground, it's childish and stupid.

I could live with out 95% of their programming, but the 5 or 6 games they do have exclusive rights to I would probably spend at the bar where it would end up costing me $40 a game to watch(can't go to a bar and not have a drink or 5, I just can't). So in my mind it is a good deal.

I don't really blame either the cable companies or the NFL. They are both just looking out for their own interests. I don't feel bad for anyone that gets stuck paying for NFL network even if they don't watch, they can switch cable companies or drop cable all together, there is no trickery to it. The cable companies lay out what each package costs and what you get with it, you can choose to buy it or not. If they add NFL network and raise the price it is up to the consumer weather to pay the additional fee or to drop the cable.

BloodyHorns82
03-11-2008, 12:16 PM
"NodakPaul" wrote:


"Zeus" wrote:


"Marrdro" wrote:


You aren't kidding. You really do have a beef.
Sometimes it is hard to read you.

Not gonna defend them, but I will say that I watch it alot of course I contribute to 7, 10 and 16 as well.
You can keep the rest.
Part of my programing on the satty.

;D


My biggest beef is the irrational belief that EVERYONE wants NFLN.
We are all huge football fans here, so it's a given that we believe NFLN to be good.

However, I have lots of relatives and friends - as I'm sure you do - who just don't care.
Forcing them to pay for it (which is the position of the NFL) just isn't right.
That's what gets me going - the arrogance of the NFL.

=Z=


My wife doesn't watch Discovery or the History channel.
Why should she have to pay for it as part of the basic package?
Why should I have to pay for TLC.

What about Oxygen - the self advertised Women's Channel?
You don't think that that has a smaller viewer base than NFLN.

The NFLN isn't saying that EVERYONE wants to watch it.
It is saying that the most economical way for the average consumer to have access to it is by putting it on the basic package.
The cable companies see it as an opportunity to pad their sagging profits.


Wow...very simple but excellent point.
I don't watch 95% of the channels I have...EVER, yet I pay for them anyways because the general population finds them worthy.

Marrdro
03-11-2008, 12:18 PM
"BloodyHorns82" wrote:


"NodakPaul" wrote:


"Zeus" wrote:


"Marrdro" wrote:


You aren't kidding. You really do have a beef.
Sometimes it is hard to read you.

Not gonna defend them, but I will say that I watch it alot of course I contribute to 7, 10 and 16 as well.
You can keep the rest.
Part of my programing on the satty.

;D


My biggest beef is the irrational belief that EVERYONE wants NFLN.
We are all huge football fans here, so it's a given that we believe NFLN to be good.

However, I have lots of relatives and friends - as I'm sure you do - who just don't care.
Forcing them to pay for it (which is the position of the NFL) just isn't right.
That's what gets me going - the arrogance of the NFL.

=Z=


My wife doesn't watch Discovery or the History channel.
Why should she have to pay for it as part of the basic package?
Why should I have to pay for TLC.

What about Oxygen - the self advertised Women's Channel?
You don't think that that has a smaller viewer base than NFLN.

The NFLN isn't saying that EVERYONE wants to watch it.
It is saying that the most economical way for the average consumer to have access to it is by putting it on the basic package.
The cable companies see it as an opportunity to pad their sagging profits.


Wow...very simple but excellent point.
I don't watch 95% of the channels I have...EVER, yet I pay for them anyways because the general population finds them worthy.

I always try to agree with NP.
He is way to smart to argue with.
;D

Zeus
03-11-2008, 12:22 PM
"NodakPaul" wrote:


"Zeus" wrote:


"Marrdro" wrote:


You aren't kidding. You really do have a beef.
Sometimes it is hard to read you.

Not gonna defend them, but I will say that I watch it alot of course I contribute to 7, 10 and 16 as well.
You can keep the rest.
Part of my programing on the satty.

;D


My biggest beef is the irrational belief that EVERYONE wants NFLN.
We are all huge football fans here, so it's a given that we believe NFLN to be good.

However, I have lots of relatives and friends - as I'm sure you do - who just don't care.
Forcing them to pay for it (which is the position of the NFL) just isn't right.
That's what gets me going - the arrogance of the NFL.


My wife doesn't watch Discovery or the History channel.
Why should she have to pay for it as part of the basic package?
Why should I have to pay for TLC.

What about Oxygen - the self advertised Women's Channel?
You don't think that that has a smaller viewer base than NFLN.

The NFLN isn't saying that EVERYONE wants to watch it.
It is saying that the most economical way for the average consumer to have access to it is by putting it on the basic package.
The cable companies see it as an opportunity to pad their sagging profits.


Ah, yes, NP!
I was waiting here for you!

The PRICE of any of those other channels you mention is miniscule compared to what NFLN wishes to charge.
Those channels price themselves so that they are on the basic tier, unlike the NFLN, who wishes to charge a PREMIUM price for BASIC service.

Sorry that you perceive my standing up for the CONSUMER as support for the cable companies.
I just happen to agree that their stance is the one which is the in the interests of the MAJORITY of cable subscribers.

=Z=

jessejames09
03-11-2008, 12:24 PM
I don't think my tv goes off NFLN for more than 10 minutes at a time. Even when other shows go to commercial I see whats going on.

And their ticker was my god when I had a trojan during the first day of FA.

Zeus
03-11-2008, 12:28 PM
"NodakPaul" wrote:


Weird that the two satellite tv providers didn't think that the price was too high...
Oh yeah, and they didn't jack the price to get it either, so people who don't watch it don't have to pay for it anymore than I have to pay for the home shopping network.

Marr- yes, Z has always had a beef with NFLN.
He thinks that the cable companies are the victims in the standoff.
In reality, the consumers are the victims.
The cable companies aren't looking out for the average consumer - they are trying to find a way to maximize their profit, just like the NFLN is.


I think that they could both afford to give a little, but Comcast and TW have made it clear that in their eyes cable channels depend on the cable providers, and not the other way around.
I don't agree with that at all.


LOL!
DirecTV is owned by Ruper Murdoch.
What else does he own....hmmmm....FOX?
Think it's in his best interests to have the channel there, regardless of the price?

As to the DISH Network, well, they're fed up with the NFL, too.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NFL_Network


Dish Network
On February 20, 2008 Dish Network moved the NFL Network from its "America's Top 100" package the higher "America's Top 200" package. Dish Network notified customers that the NFL Network was "moving out of Free Preview into America's Top 200 package" on February 20, 2008. The move cost the network four million subscribers.[16] On February 27, 2008 the NFL Network announced it would file suit against Dish Network for moving the network to "America's Top 200". The move stems from the NFL Network's decision to simulcast the 2007 New England Patriots-New York Giants game on CBS and NBC in addition to the game being shown on the NFL Network.[8] As of March 3, 2008 the NFL no longer encourages customers to switch to Dish Network on the site IWantMyNFL.com instead the network only encourages customers to switch to DirecTV, Verizon FiOS or AT&T U-verse if their provider doesn't carry the network or has placed the network on a higher priced tier.


I don't believe the Cable companies are the victims.
I am the victim, since my cable company doesn't carry NFLN (if not having a niche cable network allows me to proclaim myself a "victim").

But, as reiterated MANY times here, the Cable companies are the ones whose position is most closely aligned with my own beliefs.

I so wish most folks could differentiate between what THEY want for their own selfish reasons and what is TRULY good for all.


=Z=

Zeus
03-11-2008, 12:34 PM
"jmcdon00" wrote:


I don't really blame either the cable companies or the NFL. They are both just looking out for their own interests. I don't feel bad for anyone that gets stuck paying for NFL network even if they don't watch, they can switch cable companies or drop cable all together, there is no trickery to it.

No, they cannot switch cable companies.
Each municipality in the USA has an exclusive coverage agreement with a particular cable provider.
I'm not aware of ANY place you can just "switch cable companies" without moving.

=Z=

NodakPaul
03-11-2008, 12:34 PM
"Zeus" wrote:


"NodakPaul" wrote:


"Zeus" wrote:


"Marrdro" wrote:


You aren't kidding. You really do have a beef.
Sometimes it is hard to read you.

Not gonna defend them, but I will say that I watch it alot of course I contribute to 7, 10 and 16 as well.
You can keep the rest.
Part of my programing on the satty.
;D


My biggest beef is the irrational belief that EVERYONE wants NFLN.
We are all huge football fans here, so it's a given that we believe NFLN to be good.

However, I have lots of relatives and friends - as I'm sure you do - who just don't care.
Forcing them to pay for it (which is the position of the NFL) just isn't right.
That's what gets me going - the arrogance of the NFL.


My wife doesn't watch Discovery or the History channel.
Why should she have to pay for it as part of the basic package?
Why should I have to pay for TLC.

What about Oxygen - the self advertised Women's Channel?
You don't think that that has a smaller viewer base than NFLN.

The NFLN isn't saying that EVERYONE wants to watch it.
It is saying that the most economical way for the average consumer to have access to it is by putting it on the basic package.
The cable companies see it as an opportunity to pad their sagging profits.


Ah, yes, NP!
I was waiting here for you!

The PRICE of any of those other channels you mention is miniscule compared to what NFLN wishes to charge.
Those channels price themselves so that they are on the basic tier, unlike the NFLN, who wishes to charge a PREMIUM price for BASIC service.

Sorry that you perceive my standing up for the CONSUMER as support for the cable companies.
I just happen to agree that their stance is the one which is the in the interests of the MAJORITY of cable subscribers.

=Z=


:)

We've been round and round about this before, so I know I won't convince you otherwise.
I personally think that the cable companies are looking out more for their own interests than the interests of their cable subscribers.
In a situation where both parties are being selfish, I see the cable companies as more selfish because when given a choice between providing a great programming option to everybody for a minimal profit and not providing it at all, they are choosing to not provide it at all.
Either they make a substantial profit, or they want to create policy that results in NOBODY getting it.

The cable companies stand to make more of a profit per investment by putting a highly sought after channel in a sports tier.
The NFLN stands to make more of a profit per investment if the channel is on the basic package.
Both would still profit either way, which is whay bugs me.
I wish they would work toward a compromise, and neither side is willing to go there.

Zeus
03-11-2008, 12:36 PM
"BloodyHorns82" wrote:


"Zeus" wrote:


"Marrdro" wrote:


You aren't kidding. You really do have a beef.
Sometimes it is hard to read you.

Not gonna defend them, but I will say that I watch it alot of course I contribute to 7, 10 and 16 as well.
You can keep the rest.
Part of my programing on the satty.

;D


My biggest beef is the irrational belief that EVERYONE wants NFLN.
We are all huge football fans here, so it's a given that we believe NFLN to be good.

However, I have lots of relatives and friends - as I'm sure you do - who just don't care.
Forcing them to pay for it (which is the position of the NFL) just isn't right.
That's what gets me going - the arrogance of the NFL.


That is the cable companies fault.

I don't pay anything extra for NFL network.
On DishNetwork, it comes included on the most basic package you can buy.
Which is right where it should be. As far as I know,
they didn't increase the prices with the addition of NFLN years back, but I could be mistaken.


Yeah.
About that Dish network thing - ummmm - they changed it.
It's not on the most basic package any longer.
See the blurb I posted just a few minutes ago.

=Z=

BloodyHorns82
03-11-2008, 12:39 PM
Found this kind of interesting, although somewhat dated.


You may ask then, if the cost is so unusually high and prohibits making a profit, why would satellite offer it.
Isn't is just as expensive for them?
It is-- however, the satellite networks are approaching the NFL as a "loss leader."
That means they are willing to forego making a profit on NFLN with the hope that the NFLN will lure more customers overall.
(This is the same as when department stores like Wal-Mart sell a few special items at less than cost just to bring customers in the store.)
DirecTV is trying its best to expand and is willing to take a risk.
The cable companies already have a strong market base and have no motivation to take a loss-- it's not like they would gain any new customers by offering it as a loss leader.
.

My question would be are they really "taking a loss"?
Regardless, no company should be EXPECTED to provide a service without profiting from it...which I think many of us feel the cable companies should do.


Why is it that NFLN charges twice what ESPN does?
???

EDIT:
Another thought...
I keep reading (around the internet) that the big beef the cable companies have is they can't meet their profit margins with networks like NFLN.
My question would be what exactly are their expected margins, and are they reasonable?
30%? 40%?

Zeus
03-11-2008, 12:44 PM
"BloodyHorns82" wrote:


Why is it that NFLN charges twice what ESPN does?
???


My answer?
Arrogance.
WE are the NFL, so WE can charge whateve WE want for our niche programming.

The cost of ESPN, BTW, also includes (I believe) the Deuce, ESPNU, ESPNNews, ESPNClassic, ESPN Deportes (or whatever) and the Ocho!
So for the price of ESPN, you get:

* NFL

* MLB

* NBA

* NASCAR

* College hoops

* College football

* And tons of coverage of Other sports

=Z=

NodakPaul
03-11-2008, 12:44 PM
"Zeus" wrote:


As to the DISH Network, well, they're fed up with the NFL, too.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NFL_Network


Dish Network
On February 20, 2008 Dish Network moved the NFL Network from its "America's Top 100" package the higher "America's Top 200" package. Dish Network notified customers that the NFL Network was "moving out of Free Preview into America's Top 200 package" on February 20, 2008. The move cost the network four million subscribers.[16] On February 27, 2008 the NFL Network announced it would file suit against Dish Network for moving the network to "America's Top 200". The move stems from the NFL Network's decision to simulcast the 2007 New England Patriots-New York Giants game on CBS and NBC in addition to the game being shown on the NFL Network.[8] As of March 3, 2008 the NFL no longer encourages customers to switch to Dish Network on the site IWantMyNFL.com instead the network only encourages customers to switch to DirecTV, Verizon FiOS or AT&T U-verse if their provider doesn't carry the network or has placed the network on a higher priced tier.


I don't believe the Cable companies are the victims.
I am the victim, since my cable company doesn't carry NFLN (if not having a niche cable network allows me to proclaim myself a "victim").

But, as reiterated MANY times here, the Cable companies are the ones whose position is most closely aligned with my own beliefs.

I so wish most folks could differentiate between what THEY want for their own selfish reasons and what is TRULY good for all.


=Z=


I am a Dish subscriber, I do NOT have the America top 200, yet I still have NFLN.
How does that work?
I also don't think I ever got a programming change notification, so I am a little skeptical of the information from wikipedia at this point...

BTW, I agree with your last statement.
However, calling my beliefs selfish is hardly needed.
I am not even a cable subscriber, so how am I being selfish by wanting basic cable to include the NFLN?

I look at the history of cable companies, and how they have hand selected basic programming channels but kept popular channels on more expensive tiers.
There are very few people who simply subscribe to the most basic package in any provider anymore.
Why?
Because the basic packages suck.
If you want any decent content, you have to pay extra $$$ to the cable companies to get it.
This is just another example of the cables companies trying to force up the average price that consumers spend on cable, and I do NOT believe in any way, shape or form that that is "truly good for all".
In fact, I think it is the worst possible thing that we can allow to happen.

You said it your self in an earlier post - cable companies work in a virtual monopoly.
You cannot simply change cable companies because you feel like it.
Satellite is not an option everywhere either.
So because they know that they have a captive consumer base, they charge whatever the hell they want for whatever channel they want - regardless of what it costs the cable company.

I am glad to see a highly sought after channel like the NFLN taking on the cable companies.
To be honest, few organizations have the power or resources the NFL has to make a successful attack on the cable monopolies.

Some people look at the short term effects of 70 cents per subscriber increases, but don't look at the long term effects of allowing the providers, not the channel itself, to dictate what level of programming their channel is offered at.
I look at the long term effects, and see the consumer getting screwed if the NFLN loses.

Hardly selfish at all.

NodakPaul
03-11-2008, 12:48 PM
"BloodyHorns82" wrote:


Found this kind of interesting, although somewhat dated.


You may ask then, if the cost is so unusually high and prohibits making a profit, why would satellite offer it.
Isn't is just as expensive for them?
It is-- however, the satellite networks are approaching the NFL as a "loss leader."
That means they are willing to forego making a profit on NFLN with the hope that the NFLN will lure more customers overall.
(This is the same as when department stores like Wal-Mart sell a few special items at less than cost just to bring customers in the store.)
DirecTV is trying its best to expand and is willing to take a risk.
The cable companies already have a strong market base and have no motivation to take a loss-- it's not like they would gain any new customers by offering it as a loss leader.
.

My question would be are they really "taking a loss"?
Regardless, no company should be EXPECTED to provide a service without profiting from it...which I think many of us feel the cable companies should do.


Why is it that NFLN charges twice what ESPN does?
???

EDIT:
Another thought...
I keep reading (around the internet) that the big beef the cable companies have is they can't meet their profit margins with networks like NFLN.
My question would be what exactly are their expected margins, and are they reasonable?
30%? 40%?



Cable companies have lower initial costs but higher infrastructure and maintenance costs.
Laying cable and connecting it to houses is more expensive than just putting a dish on the roof.
This is why satellite companies are so much more profitable than cable right now.
It is also why they are able to offer better programming for cheaper. :)

Zeus
03-11-2008, 12:48 PM
"NodakPaul" wrote:


I am a Dish subscriber, I do NOT have the America top 200, yet I still have NFLN.
How does that work?
I also don't think I ever got a programming change notification, so I am a little skeptical of the information from wikipedia at this point...


I'm going to respond to the rest of this in a moment, but I thought I'd provide a Non-Wiki link for you on the Dish network thing.

http://www.multichannel.com/article/CA6535222.html
http://www.bizjournals.com/portland/stories/2008/02/25/daily24.html

=Z=

BloodyHorns82
03-11-2008, 12:49 PM
"Zeus" wrote:


"BloodyHorns82" wrote:


Why is it that NFLN charges twice what ESPN does?
???


My answer?
Arrogance.
WE are the NFL, so WE can charge whateve WE want for our niche programming.

The cost of ESPN, BTW, also includes (I believe) the Deuce, ESPNU, ESPNNews, ESPNClassic, ESPN Deportes (or whatever) and the Ocho!
So for the price of ESPN, you get:

* NFL

* MLB

* NBA

* NASCAR

* College hoops

* College football

* And tons of coverage of Other sports

=Z=


Since posting that I've read conflicting reports that state the exact opposite.
Does anybody really know how much they charge in relation to each other?

NodakPaul
03-11-2008, 12:51 PM
"BloodyHorns82" wrote:


"Zeus" wrote:


"BloodyHorns82" wrote:


Why is it that NFLN charges twice what ESPN does?
???


My answer?
Arrogance.
WE are the NFL, so WE can charge whateve WE want for our niche programming.

The cost of ESPN, BTW, also includes (I believe) the Deuce, ESPNU, ESPNNews, ESPNClassic, ESPN Deportes (or whatever) and the Ocho!
So for the price of ESPN, you get:

* NFL

* MLB

* NBA

* NASCAR

* College hoops

* College football

* And tons of coverage of Other sports

=Z=


Since posting that I've read conflicting reports that state the exact opposite.
Does anybody really know how much they charge in relation to each other?


ESPN is between $2 and $3 per subscriber.
NFLN is 70 cents per subscriber.
http://www.portfolio.com/views/blogs/market-movers/2007/11/26/consumers-should-be-able-to-choose-their-tv-channels

Marrdro
03-11-2008, 12:55 PM
Call me slow.
Even though I've see you two (Z/NP) discuss this before, I never really thought you two were serious.

Very interesting stuff.
Still not sure who is right or wrong but interesting none-the-less.


Guess I will contemplate who is right while watching NFLN tonight.
;D

Zeus
03-11-2008, 01:01 PM
"NodakPaul" wrote:


BTW, I agree with your last statement.
However, calling my beliefs selfish is hardly needed.
I am not even a cable subscriber, so how am I being selfish by wanting basic cable to include the NFLN?

I look at the history of cable companies, and how they have hand selected basic programming channels but kept popular channels on more expensive tiers.
There are very few people who simply subscribe to the most basic package in any provider anymore.
Why?
Because the basic packages suck.
If you want any decent content, you have to pay extra $$$ to the cable companies to get it.
This is just another example of the cables companies trying to force up the average price that consumers spend on cable, and I do NOT believe in any way, shape or form that that is "truly good for all".
In fact, I think it is the worst possible thing that we can allow to happen.

You said it your self in an earlier post - cable companies work in a virtual monopoly.
You cannot simply change cable companies because you feel like it.
Satellite is not an option everywhere either.
So because they know that they have a captive consumer base, they charge whatever the hell they want for whatever channel they want - regardless of what it costs the cable company.

I am glad to see a highly sought after channel like the NFLN taking on the cable companies.
To be honest, few organizations have the power or resources the NFL has to make a successful attack on the cable monopolies.

Some people look at the short term effects of 70 cents per subscriber increases, but don't look at the long term effects of allowing the providers, not the channel itself, to dictate what level of programming their channel is offered at.
I look at the long term effects, and see the consumer getting screwed if the NFLN loses.

Hardly selfish at all.


My apologies if my word choice rankled yer beans, NP.
You know I enjoy our little back-and-forth on this issue!


I won't back off of "selfish" however.
We see things with purple-tinted, football-shaped glasses here and tend to forget that, even with HUGE RECORD RATINGS, half the country didn't watch the Super Bowl this year.

You are correct, the basic package really doesn't offer that much beyond what you can pick up for FREE using an attenna.
So what?
The addition of a couple of bucks a month adds 60 channels to the "basic" service.
I choose to pay for that service.
MY CHOICE.

NFLN wouldn't go on the Basic tier in my cable system.
It would HAVE to go on an Extended Basic (Charter's term) tier, which would then increase the cost of that extended basic by almost 25%.

Long-term, what you praise is exactly what I fear.
A precedent being set by a content provider that causes me to LOSE something that I already had (Charter had NFLN until the end of 2005).

=Z=

BloodyHorns82
03-11-2008, 01:02 PM
"NodakPaul" wrote:


"BloodyHorns82" wrote:


"Zeus" wrote:


"BloodyHorns82" wrote:


Why is it that NFLN charges twice what ESPN does?
???


My answer?
Arrogance.
WE are the NFL, so WE can charge whateve WE want for our niche programming.

The cost of ESPN, BTW, also includes (I believe) the Deuce, ESPNU, ESPNNews, ESPNClassic, ESPN Deportes (or whatever) and the Ocho!
So for the price of ESPN, you get:

* NFL

* MLB

* NBA

* NASCAR

* College hoops

* College football

* And tons of coverage of Other sports

=Z=


Since posting that I've read conflicting reports that state the exact opposite.
Does anybody really know how much they charge in relation to each other?


ESPN is between $2 and $3 per subscriber.
NFLN is 70 cents per subscriber.
http://www.portfolio.com/views/blogs/market-movers/2007/11/26/consumers-should-be-able-to-choose-their-tv-channels


That sheds some light on this debate.
Seems reasonable to me in comparison to ESPN, which does offer more content than NFLN.

So does the real problem the cable companies have more closely related to adversiting revenue than profit margins tied directly to subscribers?

Zeus
03-11-2008, 01:09 PM
"NodakPaul" wrote:


"BloodyHorns82" wrote:


"Zeus" wrote:


"BloodyHorns82" wrote:


Why is it that NFLN charges twice what ESPN does?
???


My answer?
Arrogance.
WE are the NFL, so WE can charge whateve WE want for our niche programming.

The cost of ESPN, BTW, also includes (I believe) the Deuce, ESPNU, ESPNNews, ESPNClassic, ESPN Deportes (or whatever) and the Ocho!
So for the price of ESPN, you get:

* NFL

* MLB

* NBA

* NASCAR

* College hoops

* College football

* And tons of coverage of Other sports


Since posting that I've read conflicting reports that state the exact opposite.
Does anybody really know how much they charge in relation to each other?


ESPN is between $2 and $3 per subscriber.
NFLN is 70 cents per subscriber.
http://www.portfolio.com/views/blogs/market-movers/2007/11/26/consumers-should-be-able-to-choose-their-tv-channels


Yes, I believe ESPN charges $2.61 (or so) for their family of channels.

HOWEVER - local cable companies are able to sell TONS of ads on those channels, reducing the cost-per-subscriber to close to $1.50.

http://www.boston.com/business/technology/articles/2003/12/07/comcast_departs_from_the_script_on_rate_hikes/


Rosa Gatti, a spokeswoman for ESPN, acknowledged that the sports network charges Cox $2.61 per subscriber, but says Cox also gets to run its own advertising on ESPN programs, reducing the net cost to Cox to about $1.50 per subscriber.

Does NFLN run local ads?

=Z=

Marrdro
03-11-2008, 01:27 PM
"Zeus" wrote:


"NodakPaul" wrote:


"BloodyHorns82" wrote:


"Zeus" wrote:


"BloodyHorns82" wrote:


Why is it that NFLN charges twice what ESPN does?
???


My answer?
Arrogance.
WE are the NFL, so WE can charge whateve WE want for our niche programming.

The cost of ESPN, BTW, also includes (I believe) the Deuce, ESPNU, ESPNNews, ESPNClassic, ESPN Deportes (or whatever) and the Ocho!
So for the price of ESPN, you get:

* NFL

* MLB

* NBA

* NASCAR

* College hoops

* College football

* And tons of coverage of Other sports


Since posting that I've read conflicting reports that state the exact opposite.
Does anybody really know how much they charge in relation to each other?


ESPN is between $2 and $3 per subscriber.
NFLN is 70 cents per subscriber.
http://www.portfolio.com/views/blogs/market-movers/2007/11/26/consumers-should-be-able-to-choose-their-tv-channels


Yes, I believe ESPN charges $2.61 (or so) for their family of channels.

HOWEVER - local cable companies are able to sell TONS of ads on those channels, reducing the cost-per-subscriber to close to $1.50.

http://www.boston.com/business/technology/articles/2003/12/07/comcast_departs_from_the_script_on_rate_hikes/


Rosa Gatti, a spokeswoman for ESPN, acknowledged that the sports network charges Cox $2.61 per subscriber, but says Cox also gets to run its own advertising on ESPN programs, reducing the net cost to Cox to about $1.50 per subscriber.

Does NFLN run local ads?

=Z=

I always surf on commercials but I don't believe I've ever seen any, however, that could be attributed to the satellite programing.

BloodyHorns82
03-11-2008, 01:31 PM
"Marrdro" wrote:


"Zeus" wrote:


"NodakPaul" wrote:


"BloodyHorns82" wrote:


"Zeus" wrote:




Why is it that NFLN charges twice what ESPN does?
???


My answer?
Arrogance.
WE are the NFL, so WE can charge whateve WE want for our niche programming.

The cost of ESPN, BTW, also includes (I believe) the Deuce, ESPNU, ESPNNews, ESPNClassic, ESPN Deportes (or whatever) and the Ocho!
So for the price of ESPN, you get:

* NFL

* MLB

* NBA

* NASCAR

* College hoops

* College football

* And tons of coverage of Other sports


Since posting that I've read conflicting reports that state the exact opposite.
Does anybody really know how much they charge in relation to each other?


ESPN is between $2 and $3 per subscriber.
NFLN is 70 cents per subscriber.
http://www.portfolio.com/views/blogs/market-movers/2007/11/26/consumers-should-be-able-to-choose-their-tv-channels


Yes, I believe ESPN charges $2.61 (or so) for their family of channels.

HOWEVER - local cable companies are able to sell TONS of ads on those channels, reducing the cost-per-subscriber to close to $1.50.

http://www.boston.com/business/technology/articles/2003/12/07/comcast_departs_from_the_script_on_rate_hikes/


Rosa Gatti, a spokeswoman for ESPN, acknowledged that the sports network charges Cox $2.61 per subscriber, but says Cox also gets to run its own advertising on ESPN programs, reducing the net cost to Cox to about $1.50 per subscriber.

Does NFLN run local ads?

=Z=

I always surf on commercials but I don't believe I've ever seen any, however, that could be attributed to the satellite programing.



I was gonna say, I don't specifically remember seeing local channels, but I tend not to pay much attention to that kind of stuff during a football game.
I'm usually up grabbing another beer, eating some nacho's, tracking FF stats, or taking a leak.
;D

NodakPaul
03-11-2008, 01:46 PM
"Zeus" wrote:


"NodakPaul" wrote:


BTW, I agree with your last statement.
However, calling my beliefs selfish is hardly needed.
I am not even a cable subscriber, so how am I being selfish by wanting basic cable to include the NFLN?

I look at the history of cable companies, and how they have hand selected basic programming channels but kept popular channels on more expensive tiers.
There are very few people who simply subscribe to the most basic package in any provider anymore.
Why?
Because the basic packages suck.
If you want any decent content, you have to pay extra $$$ to the cable companies to get it.
This is just another example of the cables companies trying to force up the average price that consumers spend on cable, and I do NOT believe in any way, shape or form that that is "truly good for all".
In fact, I think it is the worst possible thing that we can allow to happen.

You said it your self in an earlier post - cable companies work in a virtual monopoly.
You cannot simply change cable companies because you feel like it.
Satellite is not an option everywhere either.
So because they know that they have a captive consumer base, they charge whatever the hell they want for whatever channel they want - regardless of what it costs the cable company.

I am glad to see a highly sought after channel like the NFLN taking on the cable companies.
To be honest, few organizations have the power or resources the NFL has to make a successful attack on the cable monopolies.

Some people look at the short term effects of 70 cents per subscriber increases, but don't look at the long term effects of allowing the providers, not the channel itself, to dictate what level of programming their channel is offered at.
I look at the long term effects, and see the consumer getting screwed if the NFLN loses.

Hardly selfish at all.


My apologies if my word choice rankled yer beans, NP.
You know I enjoy our little back-and-forth on this issue!


I won't back off of "selfish" however.
We see things with purple-tinted, football-shaped glasses here and tend to forget that, even with HUGE RECORD RATINGS, half the country didn't watch the Super Bowl this year.

You are correct, the basic package really doesn't offer that much beyond what you can pick up for FREE using an attenna.
So what?
The addition of a couple of bucks a month adds 60 channels to the "basic" service.
I choose to pay for that service.
MY CHOICE.

NFLN wouldn't go on the Basic tier in my cable system.
It would HAVE to go on an Extended Basic (Charter's term) tier, which would then increase the cost of that extended basic by almost 25%.

Long-term, what you praise is exactly what I fear.
A precedent being set by a content provider that causes me to LOSE something that I already had (Charter had NFLN until the end of 2005).

=Z=


My beans are unrankle-able.
No worries. :)

jmcdon00
03-11-2008, 02:00 PM
"BloodyHorns82" wrote:


"NodakPaul" wrote:


"BloodyHorns82" wrote:


"Zeus" wrote:


"BloodyHorns82" wrote:


Why is it that NFLN charges twice what ESPN does?
???


My answer?
Arrogance.
WE are the NFL, so WE can charge whateve WE want for our niche programming.

The cost of ESPN, BTW, also includes (I believe) the Deuce, ESPNU, ESPNNews, ESPNClassic, ESPN Deportes (or whatever) and the Ocho!
So for the price of ESPN, you get:

* NFL

* MLB

* NBA

* NASCAR

* College hoops

* College football

* And tons of coverage of Other sports

=Z=


Since posting that I've read conflicting reports that state the exact opposite.
Does anybody really know how much they charge in relation to each other?


ESPN is between $2 and $3 per subscriber.
NFLN is 70 cents per subscriber.
http://www.portfolio.com/views/blogs/market-movers/2007/11/26/consumers-should-be-able-to-choose-their-tv-channels


That sheds some light on this debate.
Seems reasonable to me in comparison to ESPN, which does offer more content than NFLN.

So does the real problem the cable companies have more closely related to adversiting revenue than profit margins tied directly to subscribers?

I think the problem is the cable companies would have to raise everyones rates(even 70 cents) to put NFL network on the basic package, or get rid of some of the current channels. Either way the cable companies would lose subscribers who decide to switch to dish(a better option IMHO) when they see their bill going up.

BloodyHorns82
03-11-2008, 02:15 PM
"jmcdon00" wrote:


"BloodyHorns82" wrote:


"NodakPaul" wrote:


"BloodyHorns82" wrote:


"Zeus" wrote:




Why is it that NFLN charges twice what ESPN does?
???


My answer?
Arrogance.
WE are the NFL, so WE can charge whateve WE want for our niche programming.

The cost of ESPN, BTW, also includes (I believe) the Deuce, ESPNU, ESPNNews, ESPNClassic, ESPN Deportes (or whatever) and the Ocho!
So for the price of ESPN, you get:

* NFL

* MLB

* NBA

* NASCAR

* College hoops

* College football

* And tons of coverage of Other sports

=Z=


Since posting that I've read conflicting reports that state the exact opposite.
Does anybody really know how much they charge in relation to each other?


ESPN is between $2 and $3 per subscriber.
NFLN is 70 cents per subscriber.
http://www.portfolio.com/views/blogs/market-movers/2007/11/26/consumers-should-be-able-to-choose-their-tv-channels


That sheds some light on this debate.
Seems reasonable to me in comparison to ESPN, which does offer more content than NFLN.

So does the real problem the cable companies have more closely related to adversiting revenue than profit margins tied directly to subscribers?

I think the problem is the cable companies would have to raise everyones rates(even 70 cents) to put NFL network on the basic package, or get rid of some of the current channels. Either way the cable companies would lose subscribers who decide to switch to dish(a better option IMHO) when they see their bill going up.


If they were not already sitting on top of a (near) monopoly, they might be forced to eat that 70 cents in the face of competition.
It might even attract customers...I know I would be.
Satellite is proving to be more expensive than cable was because I am forced to upgrade so far up the chain to get the two damn programs I care about (NFLN and FSN)

I wonder how many cable subscribers would be willing to pay an extra buck to get NFLN?
Too bad it isn't that simple.

Zeus
03-11-2008, 02:18 PM
"BloodyHorns82" wrote:


If they were not already sitting on top of a (near) monopoly, they might be forced to eat that 70 cents in the face of competition.
It might even attract customers...I know I would be.
Satellite is proving to be more expensive than cable was because I am forced to upgrade so far up the chain to get the two damn programs I care about (NFLN and FSN)

I wonder how many cable subscribers would be willing to pay an extra buck to get NFLN?
Too bad it isn't that simple.


Bless you, BH!
Bless you!

THAT'S the problem with the NFL's approach.
They aren't willing to see how many will pay extra to get NFLN - they want everyone to get it.

=Z=

NodakPaul
03-11-2008, 02:40 PM
"Zeus" wrote:


"BloodyHorns82" wrote:


If they were not already sitting on top of a (near) monopoly, they might be forced to eat that 70 cents in the face of competition.
It might even attract customers...I know I would be.
Satellite is proving to be more expensive than cable was because I am forced to upgrade so far up the chain to get the two gol 'darnit programs I care about (NFLN and FSN)

I wonder how many cable subscribers would be willing to pay an extra buck to get NFLN?
Too bad it isn't that simple.


Bless you, BH!
Bless you!

THAT'S the problem with the NFL's approach.
They aren't willing to see how many will pay extra to get NFLN - they want everyone to get it.

=Z=


It isn't that simple though.
If it were offered at the higher tier, it would NEVER be dropped down to the basic peer, even if a majority of subscribers subscribed to the higher tier to get it.
It would further the problem of cable companies offering shitty "basic" packages and then charging you an arm and a leg for any content worth while.

Marrdro
03-11-2008, 02:57 PM
"BloodyHorns82" wrote:


"jmcdon00" wrote:


"BloodyHorns82" wrote:


"NodakPaul" wrote:


"BloodyHorns82" wrote:






Why is it that NFLN charges twice what ESPN does?
???


My answer?
Arrogance.
WE are the NFL, so WE can charge whateve WE want for our niche programming.

The cost of ESPN, BTW, also includes (I believe) the Deuce, ESPNU, ESPNNews, ESPNClassic, ESPN Deportes (or whatever) and the Ocho!
So for the price of ESPN, you get:

* NFL

* MLB

* NBA

* NASCAR

* College hoops

* College football

* And tons of coverage of Other sports

=Z=


Since posting that I've read conflicting reports that state the exact opposite.
Does anybody really know how much they charge in relation to each other?


ESPN is between $2 and $3 per subscriber.
NFLN is 70 cents per subscriber.
http://www.portfolio.com/views/blogs/market-movers/2007/11/26/consumers-should-be-able-to-choose-their-tv-channels


That sheds some light on this debate.
Seems reasonable to me in comparison to ESPN, which does offer more content than NFLN.

So does the real problem the cable companies have more closely related to adversiting revenue than profit margins tied directly to subscribers?

I think the problem is the cable companies would have to raise everyones rates(even 70 cents) to put NFL network on the basic package, or get rid of some of the current channels. Either way the cable companies would lose subscribers who decide to switch to dish(a better option IMHO) when they see their bill going up.


If they were not already sitting on top of a (near) monopoly, they might be forced to eat that 70 cents in the face of competition.
It might even attract customers...I know I would be.
Satellite is proving to be more expensive than cable was because I am forced to upgrade so far up the chain to get the two gol 'darnit programs I care about (NFLN and FSN)

I wonder how many cable subscribers would be willing to pay an extra buck to get NFLN?
Too bad it isn't that simple.

Depends on what satty you have.
My direct tv hasn't changed much other than the extra HD programming I pay for.

jmcdon00
03-11-2008, 02:58 PM
"NodakPaul" wrote:


"Zeus" wrote:


"BloodyHorns82" wrote:


If they were not already sitting on top of a (near) monopoly, they might be forced to eat that 70 cents in the face of competition.
It might even attract customers...I know I would be.
Satellite is proving to be more expensive than cable was because I am forced to upgrade so far up the chain to get the two gol 'darnit programs I care about (NFLN and FSN)

I wonder how many cable subscribers would be willing to pay an extra buck to get NFLN?
Too bad it isn't that simple.


Bless you, BH!
Bless you!

THAT'S the problem with the NFL's approach.
They aren't willing to see how many will pay extra to get NFLN - they want everyone to get it.

=Z=


It isn't that simple though.
If it were offered at the higher tier, it would NEVER be dropped down to the basic peer, even if a majority of subscribers subscribed to the higher tier to get it.
It would further the problem of cable companies offering shitty "basic" packages and then charging you an arm and a leg for any content worth while.

I think too that if they put it on as a higher tier, seperate option it would cost a lot more. If their are 50million cable subscribers and only 25 million pay for the higher tier wouldn't they have to charge $1.4 to each customer?
Both companies are simply trying to make as much money as possible, and I can't blame them for that.

BloodyHorns82
03-11-2008, 03:10 PM
Here is an idea that should work for everyone...obviously the details haven't been ironed out yet, but hear me out.

Both satellite and cable companies start offering an ale' cart option.
You can mix and match what channels you want...(to a certain extent)
I'm not saying it would be any cheaper,
but it seems like everyone could get what they want.


I want the following:

local channels
NFLN
ESPN
Discovery
TruTV
FSN
History
A&E
and about 10 more.

Those could be easily be placed in a package that cost around $60-$80 a month, give or take

The little old lady down the street might sub out NFL and ESPN for some chick flick network or soap channel...either way we're both paying $60 (or whatever) and getting what we want.

The main drawback here is I think it would be difficult for the providers to obtain the same profits they are now by jamming 150 channels we could care less about down our throats and forcing us to climb up the ladder of shity programming to get those one or two channels we really want.

Zeus
03-11-2008, 03:30 PM
"BloodyHorns82" wrote:


Here is an idea that should work for everyone...obviously the details haven't been ironed out yet, but hear me out.

Both satellite and cable companies start offering an ale' cart option.
You can mix and match what channels you want...(to a certain extent)
I'm not saying it would be any cheaper,
but it seems like everyone could get what they want.


I want the following:

local channels
NFLN
ESPN
Discovery
TruTV
FSN
History
A&E
and about 10 more.

Those could be easily be placed in a package that cost around $60-$80 a month, give or take

The little old lady down the street might sub out NFL and ESPN for some chick flick network or soap channel...either way we're both paying $60 (or whatever) and getting what we want.

The main drawback here is I think it would be difficult for the providers to obtain the same profits they are now by jamming 150 channels we could care less about down our throats and forcing us to climb up the ladder of shity programming to get those one or two channels we really want.


LOL - you need to Google "ala cart cable" (or whatever).
I was reading a bit on that this AM (while researching for this thread) any many "experts" believe ala cart will actually increase the cost of cable channels, due to the loss of revenue to many from being everywhere.

=Z=

NodakPaul
03-11-2008, 03:40 PM
"Zeus" wrote:


"BloodyHorns82" wrote:


Here is an idea that should work for everyone...obviously the details haven't been ironed out yet, but hear me out.

Both satellite and cable companies start offering an ale' cart option.
You can mix and match what channels you want...(to a certain extent)
I'm not saying it would be any cheaper,
but it seems like everyone could get what they want.


I want the following:

local channels
NFLN
ESPN
Discovery
TruTV
FSN
History
A&E
and about 10 more.

Those could be easily be placed in a package that cost around $60-$80 a month, give or take

The little old lady down the street might sub out NFL and ESPN for some chick flick network or soap channel...either way we're both paying $60 (or whatever) and getting what we want.

The main drawback here is I think it would be difficult for the providers to obtain the same profits they are now by jamming 150 channels we could care less about down our throats and forcing us to climb up the ladder of shity programming to get those one or two channels we really want.


LOL - you need to Google "ala cart cable" (or whatever).
I was reading a bit on that this AM (while researching for this thread) any many "experts" believe ala cart will actually increase the cost of cable channels, due to the loss of revenue to many from being everywhere.

=Z=


Sadly, I actually argee with the "experts" here.
Although there is a way it could work.
Sirius and XM radio are fighting for the right to merge, and one of the things they want to offer is ala cart programing.
With this situation, they have contracts in place to prevent price gouging.
I wonder if that model would work for cable.

BloodyHorns82
03-11-2008, 03:41 PM
"Zeus" wrote:


"BloodyHorns82" wrote:


Here is an idea that should work for everyone...obviously the details haven't been ironed out yet, but hear me out.

Both satellite and cable companies start offering an ale' cart option.
You can mix and match what channels you want...(to a certain extent)
I'm not saying it would be any cheaper,
but it seems like everyone could get what they want.


I want the following:

local channels
NFLN
ESPN
Discovery
TruTV
FSN
History
A&E
and about 10 more.

Those could be easily be placed in a package that cost around $60-$80 a month, give or take

The little old lady down the street might sub out NFL and ESPN for some chick flick network or soap channel...either way we're both paying $60 (or whatever) and getting what we want.

The main drawback here is I think it would be difficult for the providers to obtain the same profits they are now by jamming 150 channels we could care less about down our throats and forcing us to climb up the ladder of shity programming to get those one or two channels we really want.


LOL - you need to Google "ala cart cable" (or whatever).
I was reading a bit on that this AM (while researching for this thread) any many "experts" believe ala cart will actually increase the cost of cable channels, due to the loss of revenue to many from being everywhere.

=Z=


Damnit!
'They' are stealing my thoughts again.
;D

I guess I didn't really imagine the costs to go down, but more so the options to go up.
Weed out what you dont want for what you do...and pay the same price you currently are.
I'm sure it's full of holes or we'd be seeing something similar on the market right now.

NodakPaul
03-11-2008, 03:43 PM
OK.
Just realized that this is probably the farthest off topic I have seen a thread go in a loooong time.

So what did we decide again for Home Game Arrangements?
I want to make sure I will be there (oh wait, I go to them all... ;))

Zeus
03-11-2008, 03:57 PM
"NodakPaul" wrote:


OK.
Just realized that this is probably the farthest off topic I have seen a thread go in a loooong time.

So what did we decide again for Home Game Arrangements?
I want to make sure I will be there (oh wait, I go to them all... ;))


All?
I thought you missed at least one last year....wasn't it the SD game?

=Z=

NodakPaul
03-11-2008, 04:07 PM
"Zeus" wrote:


"NodakPaul" wrote:


OK.
Just realized that this is probably the farthest off topic I have seen a thread go in a loooong time.

So what did we decide again for Home Game Arrangements?
I want to make sure I will be there (oh wait, I go to them all... ;))


All?
I thought you missed at least one last year....wasn't it the SD game?

=Z=


Ouch. Rub it in.
Yeah, I was on a plane and missed AD's record breaking performance.
:'(

NodakPaul
03-20-2008, 01:29 PM
FYI, it looks like the 2008 NFL Regular Season Schedule Announcement was delayed.
It isn't showing up on the NFLN schedule anymore.
:'(

BloodyHorns82
03-20-2008, 01:31 PM
"NodakPaul" wrote:


FYI, it looks like the 2008 NFL Regular Season Schedule Announcement was delayed.
It isn't showing up on the NFLN schedule anymore.

:'(


Agghhh!
>:(
I want to start planning for an away game ASAP!
I need to know the dates of each away game so I can pick one that doesn't run close to my wife's due date in October.