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singersp
11-28-2006, 08:07 AM
Wilf keeps focus on looking long-term (http://www.startribune.com/507/story/836381.html)

The Vikings owner says good things will come to the team in the future, and that includes finding the right location to get a new stadium built.

Sid Hartman, Star Tribune
Last update: November 27, 2006 – 12:07 AM

"This is the first year of the new coaching staff, and with a lot of new players, we look forward to a long-term process of building our team and becoming more consistent on the winning side," Wilf said. "I look for good things to come in the future.

Mr-holland
11-28-2006, 08:30 AM
good read, personally i hope that the new stadium gets build downtown and not somewhere on the countryside
i love wilf, he's a great owner and i don't think he's gonne go anywhere with the vikings.

cogitans
11-28-2006, 08:45 AM
I like it that Wilf keeps his focus on building a Power House Dynasty in Minnesota

marcosMN
11-28-2006, 10:02 AM
"cogitans" wrote:


I like it that Wilf keeps his focus on building a Power House Dynasty in Minnesota


I was saying the same thing.

He wants to make money.

Look at this league. With a salary-cap to prevent Yankees-like monopolies on talent, the NFL is supposed to be about parity. However, look at the teams that are making all the money. New England, Indy, Pittsburgh, Philly, Carolina. How do they make so much? Merchandising. How do they sell so much?

Winning., Consistantly.

Wilf knows this. So he's going to do whatever it takes to win.

Quite the upgrade from Red, eh?
8)

Zeus
11-28-2006, 10:08 AM
"SnoBumMN" wrote:


"cogitans" wrote:


I like it that Wilf keeps his focus on building a Power House Dynasty in Minnesota


I was saying the same thing.

He wants to make money.

Look at this league. With a salary-cap to prevent Yankees-like monopolies on talent, the NFL is supposed to be about parity. However, look at the teams that are making all the money. New England, Indy, Pittsburgh, Philly, Carolina. How do they make so much? Merchandising. How do they sell so much?

Winning., Consistantly.

Wilf knows this. So he's going to do whatever it takes to win.

Quite the upgrade from Red, eh?
8)


Merchandising?
I'm almost positive that that revenue is split EVENLY amongst the 32 teams in the league.

The difference between those teams you listed and the Vikes on the revenue front lands SQUARELY in the lap of the MetroDome and the horrible, horrible, horrible lease they have the the Metropolitan Sports Commission.


The Redskins are the most valuable team in football NOT because they sell more stuff than anyone else (which they don't) - but because they have the largest stadium in the NFL (92,000+) which is wholly owned by Snyder AND because they've got a sweetheart naming rights deal with FedEx.

Indy, BTW, is ONE SPOT higher than the Vikings as far as franchise value goes.
In large part due to the fact that the RCA Dome is a craphole.

http://espn.go.com/sportsbusiness/s/forbes.html

=Z=

digital420
11-28-2006, 10:11 AM
This is def one of the better ownerships i think we've h ad in a long time. Keep it up Wilfy and lets get the Vikes a new home!!!

DiGiTaL

marcosMN
11-28-2006, 07:08 PM
"AWZeus" wrote:


"SnoBumMN" wrote:


"cogitans" wrote:


I like it that Wilf keeps his focus on building a Power House Dynasty in Minnesota


I was saying the same thing.

He wants to make money.

Look at this league. With a salary-cap to prevent Yankees-like monopolies on talent, the NFL is supposed to be about parity. However, look at the teams that are making all the money. New England, Indy, Pittsburgh, Philly, Carolina. How do they make so much? Merchandising. How do they sell so much?

Winning., Consistantly.

Wilf knows this. So he's going to do whatever it takes to win.

Quite the upgrade from Red, eh?
8)


Merchandising?
I'm almost positive that that revenue is split EVENLY amongst the 32 teams in the league.

The difference between those teams you listed and the Vikes on the revenue front lands SQUARELY in the lap of the MetroDome and the horrible, horrible, horrible lease they have the the Metropolitan Sports Commission.


The Redskins are the most valuable team in football NOT because they sell more stuff than anyone else (which they don't) - but because they have the largest stadium in the NFL (92,000+) which is wholly owned by Snyder AND because they've got a sweetheart naming rights deal with FedEx.

Indy, BTW, is ONE SPOT higher than the Vikings as far as franchise value goes.
In large part due to the fact that the RCA Dome is a craphole.

http://espn.go.com/sportsbusiness/s/forbes.html

=Z=


I'm sorry, I misspoke...

NFL liscensed material is shared wealth. I was trying to refer to concessions sales and money spent at the game, and to get in no less...

Also the link provided still has Red as the owner of the Vikes, so its a little dated...

Anyway, the point is I think Wilf is going to be willing to spend the money it takes to make this team a consistant threat in the years to come.

BadlandsVikings
11-28-2006, 07:44 PM
Hope he gets the stadium approved quickly and soon, and wins us a butt load of Super Bowls.

AngloVike
11-28-2006, 07:54 PM
Anyway, the point is I think Wilf is going to be willing to spend the money it takes to make this team a consistant threat in the years to come.

and I think he also realises that its won't be instant success either, unlike Dan Snyder who thought he could buy a Superbowl win. Thats always a bonus to have an owner with realistic expectations.

Prophet
11-28-2006, 08:13 PM
"AngloVike" wrote:




Anyway, the point is I think Wilf is going to be willing to spend the money it takes to make this team a consistant threat in the years to come.

and I think he also realises that its won't be instant success either, unlike Dan Snyder who thought he could buy a Superbowl win. Thats always a bonus to have an owner with realistic expectations.


No doubt.
I've liked Wilf so far, realistic and willing to fork out the coin in salary capless facets of the team.
My only concern so far is whether or not he is too involved in micromanaging the affairs of the team.
I sure hope he gets the stadium deal pushed through soon.

Zeus
11-29-2006, 08:59 AM
"SnoBumMN" wrote:


I'm sorry, I misspoke...

NFL liscensed material is shared wealth. I was trying to refer to concessions sales and money spent at the game, and to get in no less...

Also the link provided still has Red as the owner of the Vikes, so its a little dated...

Anyway, the point is I think Wilf is going to be willing to spend the money it takes to make this team a consistant threat in the years to come.


Here's the 2006 rankings.
Stupid Google served me up old data!

http://www.forbes.com/lists/2006/30/06nfl_NFL-Team-Valuations_Rank.html

Rank Team Current Value ($mil) 1-Yr Value Change (%) Debt/Value (%) Revenue ($mil) Operating Income ($mil)
1
Washington Redskins 1,423
13
17
303
108.4

2
New England Patriots 1,176
13
26
250
43.6

3
Dallas Cowboys 1,173
10
17
235
37.1

4
Houston Texans 1,043
10
29
222
57.6

5
Philadelphia Eagles 1,024
8
32
218
54.2

6
Denver Broncos 975
7
21
207
26.9

7
Cleveland Browns 970
9
10
206
47.1

8
Tampa Bay Buccaneers 955
9
15
203
56.9

9
Baltimore Ravens 946
9
29
201
27.8

10
Chicago Bears 945
9
20
201
51.5

11
Carolina Panthers 936
7
13
199
20.7

12
Miami Dolphins 912
7
27
194
33.4

13
Green Bay Packers 911
7
5
194
22.3

14
Kansas City Chiefs 894
17
15
186
28.2

15
New York Giants 890
10
7
182
26.9

16
Seattle Seahawks 888
8
13
189
5.0
17
Tennessee Titans 886
6
14
189
48.3

18
Pittsburgh Steelers 880
7
11
187
25.5

19
New York Jets 876
18
11
179
33.1

20
St Louis Rams 841
11
5
179
33.2

21
Detroit Lions 839
8
42
178
16.1

22
Indianapolis Colts 837
17
18
167
25.0

23
Cincinnati Bengals 825
15
12
175
20.9

24
Arizona Cardinals 789
17
19
158
16.6

25
Buffalo Bills 756
7
9
176
31.2

26
Jacksonville Jaguars 744
8
17
173
22.5

27
New Orleans Saints 738
3
17
160
-4.1

28
Oakland Raiders 736
9
7
171
9.1

29
San Francisco 49ers 734
5
14
171
11.8

30
San Diego Chargers 731
8
14
170
24.8

31
Atlanta Falcons 730
6
37
170
6.6

32
Minnesota Vikings 720
9
44
167
16.3


You'll notice that the Texans are NUMBER FOUR in the listing.
Why?
Because they own reliant stadium outright.

I believe (and I'm not sure about Jacksonville) that the bottom seven teams all lease stadiums rather than owning them.

=Z=

marcosMN
11-29-2006, 09:28 AM
"AWZeus" wrote:


"SnoBumMN" wrote:


I'm sorry, I misspoke...

NFL liscensed material is shared wealth. I was trying to refer to concessions sales and money spent at the game, and to get in no less...

Also the link provided still has Red as the owner of the Vikes, so its a little dated...

Anyway, the point is I think Wilf is going to be willing to spend the money it takes to make this team a consistant threat in the years to come.


Here's the 2006 rankings.
Stupid Google served me up old data!

http://www.forbes.com/lists/2006/30/06nfl_NFL-Team-Valuations_Rank.html

Rank Team Current Value ($mil) 1-Yr Value Change (%) Debt/Value (%) Revenue ($mil) Operating Income ($mil)
1
Washington Redskins 1,423
13
17
303
108.4

2
New England Patriots 1,176
13
26
250
43.6

3
Dallas Cowboys 1,173
10
17
235
37.1

4
Houston Texans 1,043
10
29
222
57.6

5
Philadelphia Eagles 1,024
8
32
218
54.2

6
Denver Broncos 975
7
21
207
26.9

7
Cleveland Browns 970
9
10
206
47.1

8
Tampa Bay Buccaneers 955
9
15
203
56.9

9
Baltimore Ravens 946
9
29
201
27.8

10
Chicago Bears 945
9
20
201
51.5

11
Carolina Panthers 936
7
13
199
20.7

12
Miami Dolphins 912
7
27
194
33.4

13
Green Bay Packers 911
7
5
194
22.3

14
Kansas City Chiefs 894
17
15
186
28.2

15
New York Giants 890
10
7
182
26.9

16
Seattle Seahawks 888
8
13
189
5.0
17
Tennessee Titans 886
6
14
189
48.3

18
Pittsburgh Steelers 880
7
11
187
25.5

19
New York Jets 876
18
11
179
33.1

20
St Louis Rams 841
11
5
179
33.2

21
Detroit Lions 839
8
42
178
16.1

22
Indianapolis Colts 837
17
18
167
25.0

23
Cincinnati Bengals 825
15
12
175
20.9

24
Arizona Cardinals 789
17
19
158
16.6

25
Buffalo Bills 756
7
9
176
31.2

26
Jacksonville Jaguars 744
8
17
173
22.5

27
New Orleans Saints 738
3
17
160
-4.1

28
Oakland Raiders 736
9
7
171
9.1

29
San Francisco 49ers 734
5
14
171
11.8

30
San Diego Chargers 731
8
14
170
24.8

31
Atlanta Falcons 730
6
37
170
6.6

32
Minnesota Vikings 720
9
44
167
16.3


You'll notice that the Texans are NUMBER FOUR in the listing.
Why?
Because they own reliant stadium outright.

I believe (and I'm not sure about Jacksonville) that the bottom seven teams all lease stadiums rather than owning them.

=Z=


I agree that Wilf should just build the stadium himself. I'm pretty sure he can swing it... I think he's in the mob, or some kind of organized crime syndicate...

Come on, Zygi. Use your connections, break some knuckles, and get that stadium built downtown!!!
8)

Ltrey33
11-29-2006, 10:30 AM
Wow. That list is depressing!

Zeus
11-29-2006, 02:00 PM
"Ltrey33" wrote:


Wow. That list is depressing!


Yup.
And it makes it patently obvious why the Vikings need a new stadium - OWNED BY THE TEAM - if they are going to reach the top level of teams in the NFL.

=Z=

1800CULPEPPER
11-29-2006, 03:07 PM
Where theres a WILF, theres a WAY!!

thevikingfan
11-29-2006, 03:14 PM
wilf said he was willing to give up to 220 million to the new stadium thats about 1 third of the projected cost.Hopefully if not tis year then next year a stadium will get approvedh

Prophet
11-29-2006, 03:16 PM
"1800CULPEPPER" wrote:


Where theres a WILF, theres a WAY!!


Good one, I think even the Bulgarian judges would rate that joke highly.

Wilf actually offered $1B of his own coin earlier this year.

Del Rio
11-29-2006, 03:26 PM
"AWZeus" wrote:


"Ltrey33" wrote:


Wow. That list is depressing!


Yup.
And it makes it patently obvious why the Vikings need a new stadium - OWNED BY THE TEAM - if they are going to reach the top level of teams in the NFL.

=Z=


Top level of revenue not winning. Correct?

Vikes
11-29-2006, 03:37 PM
Thank you Wilf for keep the eye on the prize. Keep the people focused and we shall soon have the proper management in place to run this thing right.

"MEN WE STAY THE COURSE"

singersp
11-29-2006, 09:21 PM
"thevikingfan" wrote:


wilf said he was willing to give up to 220 million to the new stadium thats about 1 third of the projected cost.Hopefully if not tis year then next year a stadium will get approvedh


They couldn't get it done with Anoka County kicking in an extra $285 million in addition to Wilf's $220 mil. Now that $285 mil offer is of the table & gone so it will be that much tougher to get it done. Someone has to make up for that lost $285 million.