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singersp
11-10-2006, 07:22 AM
Vikings: Bevell knows it's Childress' game to call (http://www.startribune.com/510/story/800985.html)

The Vikings offensive coordinator plays a key role in the formulation of the game plan, but he doesn't get to call the plays. Darrell Bevell knew that when he took the job and is comfortable with the situation.

Kevin Seifert, Star Tribune
Last update: November 09, 2006 – 10:50 PM

singersp
11-10-2006, 07:23 AM
Alvarez backs Childress' play calling (http://www.twincities.com/mld/twincities/sports/football/15975185.htm)

Posted on Fri, Nov. 10, 2006

BY DON SEEHOLZER
Pioneer Press

singersp
11-10-2006, 07:25 AM
Vikings: They make the call (http://www.startribune.com/510/story/800749.html)

Last update: November 09, 2006 – 9:33 PM

In the NFL, 10 head coaches, instead of offensive coordinators, call plays.

singersp
11-10-2006, 07:26 AM
Let's see what Bevell can do (http://www.twincities.com/mld/twincities/sports/football/15975620.htm)

Posted on Fri, Nov. 10, 2006

singersp
11-10-2006, 07:28 AM
Toiling behind the call (http://www.twincities.com/mld/twincities/sports/football/15975189.htm)

Posted on Fri, Nov. 10, 2006

Ex-Packers aide says there's plenty to do in Childress' regime

BY DON SEEHOLZER
Pioneer Press

singersp
11-10-2006, 07:30 AM
Bevell’s role with Vikings unclear (http://www.chippewa.com/articles/2006/11/10/packers/football2.txt)

By JASON WILDE / Wisconsin State Journal
Published: Thursday, November 9, 2006 7:40 PM CST

Prophet
11-10-2006, 07:32 AM
"singersp" wrote:


Vikings: Bevell knows it's Childress' game to call (http://www.startribune.com/510/story/800985.html)

The Vikings offensive coordinator plays a key role in the formulation of the game plan, but he doesn't get to call the plays. Darrell Bevell knew that when he took the job and is comfortable with the situation.

Kevin Seifert, Star Tribune
Last update: November 09, 2006 – 10:50 PM



This reconfirms the 'yes' man OC that Caine?? mentioned a few weeks ago.



When he announced the move, Vikings coach Brad Childress made clear why he wanted Darrell Bevell as his offensive coordinator.

"He'll say it exactly like I want it said," Childress intoned at a January news conference, noting the pair's 15-year friendship.

There is nothing secret about the Childress/Bevell connection nor the way the handle the play calling.
Childress wanted a 'yes' man and got one.
At least Bevell isn't a 'yes man' and pretending not to be one.


...But Bevell insisted Thursday that he has a strong influence on the offense and said he would be ready if Childress asks him to call plays.

"I would say and make clear that the game plan is our game plan," Bevell said. "Coach Childress is a big part of it. I'm a big part of it as well as the rest of our offensive staff. We're all on the same page. If it's on that [play] card, we're saying that, 'Hey, we like that play and you can call it in a game.'

So, they obviously game plan together.
Big surprise there.


Childress is one of 10 NFL coaches who call their own plays. Nine of those teams also employ an offensive coordinator, but four of those coordinators also coach a position group. That makes Bevell, who spent six years as a Green Bay assistant before joining the Vikings, one of five NFL offensive coordinators who neither call the plays nor coach a position.

Who are the other 9?
What team doesn't employ an OC?
So Bevell is one of 5 OCs that doesn't call plays nor coach a position.
I would hate to be an OC and have minimal responsibilities.

cogitans
11-10-2006, 08:02 AM
"Acumen" wrote:


Who are the other 9?
What team doesn't employ an OC?



It says in one of the other articles:

Baltimore - Brian Billick (No OC after firing Jim Fassel)
Denver - Mike Shanahan
Green Bay - Mike McCarthy
Houston - Gary Kubiak
New Orleans - Sean Payton
Philadelphia - Andy Reid
St. Louis - Scott Linehan
Seattle - Mike Holmgren
Tempa Bay - Jon Gruden

Between GB, Hou, NO, StL and Min this is 5 of the 10 new HCs of this year.

Prophet
11-10-2006, 08:12 AM
"singersp" wrote:


Alvarez backs Childress' play calling (http://www.twincities.com/mld/twincities/sports/football/15975185.htm)

Posted on Fri, Nov. 10, 2006

BY DON SEEHOLZER
Pioneer Press




"Let me tell you, anybody that questions his play calling is making a mistake," former University of Wisconsin coach Barry Alvarez said this week. "I was on the headset with him for a lot of years. He knows what he's doing, and he knows what his players are capable of doing. That's what people don't understand. It's just not drawing up a play. It's what your players can execute and what you call in different situations."

Any good coach develops plays that utilize the strengths of their players.
Many of the problems have been in the execution of the plays, not the play calling.
The play calling issue is getting as old as the Start Tarvaris issue.
Not because either of those topics shouldn't have been discussed....but because they have both been proven wrong by the coaches/players quotes themselves or by an analysis of the play calling.

davike
11-10-2006, 08:55 AM
"Acumen" wrote:


"singersp" wrote:


Alvarez backs Childress' play calling (http://www.twincities.com/mld/twincities/sports/football/15975185.htm)

Posted on Fri, Nov. 10, 2006

BY DON SEEHOLZER
Pioneer Press




"Let me tell you, anybody that questions his play calling is making a mistake," former University of Wisconsin coach Barry Alvarez said this week. "I was on the headset with him for a lot of years. He knows what he's doing, and he knows what his players are capable of doing. That's what people don't understand. It's just not drawing up a play. It's what your players can execute and what you call in different situations."

Any good coach develops plays that utilize the strengths of their players.
Many of the problems have been in the execution of the plays, not the play calling.
The play calling issue is getting as old as the Start Tarvaris issue.
Not because either of those topics shouldn't have been discussed....but because they have both been proven wrong by the coaches/players quotes themselves or by an analysis of the play calling.





thats true acumen, playcalling is something that can be easily blamed, most of the time its the execution of the play that is messed up. look at the seahawks, they run one of the purest versions of west coast offense, so everyone almost knows what is in their playbook, but they execute it so well that alot of teams can't stop them anyways. i realize that they haven't been that great this year, but look at all the key injuries they have. i have never really questioned playcallin alot, but i still would like to see some other run variations. im not sure whether we should pin the blame on the exection or playcalling, there is a very thin line there and it very hard for the fans to see.

Prophet
11-10-2006, 08:59 AM
"davike" wrote:


"Acumen" wrote:


"singersp" wrote:


Alvarez backs Childress' play calling (http://www.twincities.com/mld/twincities/sports/football/15975185.htm)

Posted on Fri, Nov. 10, 2006

BY DON SEEHOLZER
Pioneer Press




"Let me tell you, anybody that questions his play calling is making a mistake," former University of Wisconsin coach Barry Alvarez said this week. "I was on the headset with him for a lot of years. He knows what he's doing, and he knows what his players are capable of doing. That's what people don't understand. It's just not drawing up a play. It's what your players can execute and what you call in different situations."

Any good coach develops plays that utilize the strengths of their players.
Many of the problems have been in the execution of the plays, not the play calling.
The play calling issue is getting as old as the Start Tarvaris issue.
Not because either of those topics shouldn't have been discussed....but because they have both been proven wrong by the coaches/players quotes themselves or by an analysis of the play calling.





thats true acumen, playcalling is something that can be easily blamed, most of the time its the execution of the play that is messed up. look at the seahawks, they run one of the purest versions of west coast offense, so everyone almost knows what is in their playbook, but they execute it so well that alot of teams can't stop them anyways. i realize that they haven't been that great this year, but look at all the key injuries they have. i have never really questioned playcallin alot, but i still would like to see some other run variations. im not sure whether we should pin the blame on the exection or playcalling, there is a very thin line there and it very hard for the fans to see.


The play calling line isn't thin at all.
Del Rio broke down the play calling in another thread that debunked all the theory's of predictable play calling.
That issue is as dead as the start Tarvaris issue at this juncture of the season if you have been paying attention.

davike
11-10-2006, 09:10 AM
"Acumen" wrote:


"davike" wrote:


"Acumen" wrote:


"singersp" wrote:


Alvarez backs Childress' play calling (http://www.twincities.com/mld/twincities/sports/football/15975185.htm)

Posted on Fri, Nov. 10, 2006

BY DON SEEHOLZER
Pioneer Press




"Let me tell you, anybody that questions his play calling is making a mistake," former University of Wisconsin coach Barry Alvarez said this week. "I was on the headset with him for a lot of years. He knows what he's doing, and he knows what his players are capable of doing. That's what people don't understand. It's just not drawing up a play. It's what your players can execute and what you call in different situations."

Any good coach develops plays that utilize the strengths of their players.
Many of the problems have been in the execution of the plays, not the play calling.
The play calling issue is getting as old as the Start Tarvaris issue.
Not because either of those topics shouldn't have been discussed....but because they have both been proven wrong by the coaches/players quotes themselves or by an analysis of the play calling.





thats true acumen, playcalling is something that can be easily blamed, most of the time its the execution of the play that is messed up. look at the seahawks, they run one of the purest versions of west coast offense, so everyone almost knows what is in their playbook, but they execute it so well that alot of teams can't stop them anyways. i realize that they haven't been that great this year, but look at all the key injuries they have. i have never really questioned playcallin alot, but i still would like to see some other run variations. im not sure whether we should pin the blame on the exection or playcalling, there is a very thin line there and it very hard for the fans to see.


The play calling line isn't thin at all.
Del Rio broke down the play calling in another thread that debunked all the theory's of predictable play calling.
That issue is as dead as the start Tarvaris issue at this juncture of the season if you have been paying attention.


im sorry, i did not see that one. if you have a link handy, that would be great, or just the name of the thread. and if i am wrong i apoligize for posting crap :-\ :D

Prophet
11-10-2006, 09:14 AM
"davike" wrote:


"Acumen" wrote:


"davike" wrote:


"Acumen" wrote:


"singersp" wrote:


Alvarez backs Childress' play calling (http://www.twincities.com/mld/twincities/sports/football/15975185.htm)

Posted on Fri, Nov. 10, 2006

BY DON SEEHOLZER
Pioneer Press




"Let me tell you, anybody that questions his play calling is making a mistake," former University of Wisconsin coach Barry Alvarez said this week. "I was on the headset with him for a lot of years. He knows what he's doing, and he knows what his players are capable of doing. That's what people don't understand. It's just not drawing up a play. It's what your players can execute and what you call in different situations."

Any good coach develops plays that utilize the strengths of their players.
Many of the problems have been in the execution of the plays, not the play calling.
The play calling issue is getting as old as the Start Tarvaris issue.
Not because either of those topics shouldn't have been discussed....but because they have both been proven wrong by the coaches/players quotes themselves or by an analysis of the play calling.





thats true acumen, playcalling is something that can be easily blamed, most of the time its the execution of the play that is messed up. look at the seahawks, they run one of the purest versions of west coast offense, so everyone almost knows what is in their playbook, but they execute it so well that alot of teams can't stop them anyways. i realize that they haven't been that great this year, but look at all the key injuries they have. i have never really questioned playcallin alot, but i still would like to see some other run variations. im not sure whether we should pin the blame on the exection or playcalling, there is a very thin line there and it very hard for the fans to see.


The play calling line isn't thin at all.
Del Rio broke down the play calling in another thread that debunked all the theory's of predictable play calling.
That issue is as dead as the start Tarvaris issue at this juncture of the season if you have been paying attention.


im sorry, i did not see that one. if you have a link handy, that would be great, or just the name of the thread. and if i am wrong i apoligize for posting crap :-\ :D


Never apologize, always be right
;D.
I can't remember the thread, it's another one of those posts that is buried somewhere.
He just went to NFL.com and looked at all the plays and the downs and summarized them.
They were not as predictable as some would like to have believed.

========

I think I found one of the posts looking at the play calling on this page:

http://www.purplepride.org/index.php?option=com_smf&Itemid=150&topic=28944.msg494897#msg494897

davike
11-10-2006, 09:28 AM
"Acumen" wrote:


"davike" wrote:


"Acumen" wrote:


"davike" wrote:


"Acumen" wrote:


[quote author=singersp link=topic=29040.msg496136#msg496136 date=1163165016]
Alvarez backs Childress' play calling (http://www.twincities.com/mld/twincities/sports/football/15975185.htm)

Posted on Fri, Nov. 10, 2006

BY DON SEEHOLZER
Pioneer Press




"Let me tell you, anybody that questions his play calling is making a mistake," former University of Wisconsin coach Barry Alvarez said this week. "I was on the headset with him for a lot of years. He knows what he's doing, and he knows what his players are capable of doing. That's what people don't understand. It's just not drawing up a play. It's what your players can execute and what you call in different situations."

Any good coach develops plays that utilize the strengths of their players.
Many of the problems have been in the execution of the plays, not the play calling.
The play calling issue is getting as old as the Start Tarvaris issue.
Not because either of those topics shouldn't have been discussed....but because they have both been proven wrong by the coaches/players quotes themselves or by an analysis of the play calling.





thats true acumen, playcalling is something that can be easily blamed, most of the time its the execution of the play that is messed up. look at the seahawks, they run one of the purest versions of west coast offense, so everyone almost knows what is in their playbook, but they execute it so well that alot of teams can't stop them anyways. i realize that they haven't been that great this year, but look at all the key injuries they have. i have never really questioned playcallin alot, but i still would like to see some other run variations. im not sure whether we should pin the blame on the exection or playcalling, there is a very thin line there and it very hard for the fans to see.


The play calling line isn't thin at all.
Del Rio broke down the play calling in another thread that debunked all the theory's of predictable play calling.
That issue is as dead as the start Tarvaris issue at this juncture of the season if you have been paying attention.


im sorry, i did not see that one. if you have a link handy, that would be great, or just the name of the thread. and if i am wrong i apoligize for posting crap :-\ :D


Never apologize, always be right
;D.
I can't remember the thread, it's another one of those posts that is buried somewhere.
He just went to NFL.com and looked at all the plays and the downs and summarized them.
They were not as predictable as some would like to have believed.
[/quot e]

sorry im just a maddenite moss crotch sniffer ;D . i realize that the playcalls are random, i have done different things like that in different weeks. and if you read my above post you will see that i am not blaming play calling. i am not dismissing it, but im not blaming it. i expect childress to make a few rookie mistakes right now anyways. but the reason i said there is a fine line between playcalling and execution is because we as fans don't see what play the coach called, all we see is the execution. for all we know, they could be running a different play then the coach called, then we blame the playcall for that.
maybe childress called an outside run but they pulled it inside on accident or something. you never know.

COJOMAY
11-10-2006, 12:26 PM
You know what I find interesting about all the articles is that all the reporters got their information from the same press conference and all the writers put their "twist" to the story.
One emphasizes the point that 10 other coaches do the same thing.
Another almost ignores that point and makes Bevell especially sound like a "Yes Man."
And on it goes from one writer to another, each with their own ax to grind.