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Garland Greene
11-06-2006, 09:25 PM
I couldn't find one, so if there is one please lock this up. But If
not please contribute.
Now that we have 8ngames under our belt and another 8 to go in our season what do you give as a grade to each Position?

QB
RB
WR
TE
OL
DL
LB
DB
ST


QB-D
only reason not an F is I think that we can get better with T-Jack or Bollinger

RB-B Solid Season by Richardson and Taylor, Mewelde Moore coming along.

WR-F if there was a grade lower than this it may be tempting to give them this. But when you have a bunch of #3,4 and 5 WR's as your starters what can you expect?

TE-C Avg at best.

OL
Incomplete. I think there is 1 thing missing but no one knows exactly what it is.

DL-A The Heart and Soul of this team IMO

LB-B+ Surprise, surprise this unit has played above expectations

DB-B Solid play out of the secondary this year as well. Especially with some early season question marks from injuries.

ST-B Kluwe has had an off year stats wise, but Longwell has had a very solid season and has a better QB rating that BJ does

Mr Anderson
11-06-2006, 09:51 PM
"THEBIGDADDY" wrote:


I couldn't find one, so if there is one please lock this up. But If
not please contribute.
Now that we have 8ngames under our belt and another 8 to go in our season what do you give as a grade to each Position?

QB
RB
WR
TE
OL
DL
LB
DB
ST


QB-D
only reason not an F is I think that we can get better with T-Jack or Bollinger

RB-B Solid Season by Richardson and Taylor, Mewelde Moore coming along.

WR-F if there was a grade lower than this it may be tempting to give them this. But when you have a bunch of #3,4 and 5 WR's as your starters what can you expect?

TE-C Avg at best.

OL
Incomplete. I think there is 1 thing missing but no one knows exactly what it is.

DL-A The Heart and Soul of this team IMO

LB-B+ Surprise, surprise this unit has played above expectations

DB-B Solid play out of the secondary this year as well. Especially with some early season question marks from injuries.

ST-B Kluwe has had an off year stats wise, but Longwell has had a very solid season and has a better QB rating that BJ does




Could be the O-line coach. Thats what I've been thinking all year. I know Marcus Johnson is out of position at tackle, but he;s big and athletic, so should be able to pass protect much better than he is, my guess is coaching on that one.

I pretty much agree on everything else, but Kluwe, yeah his averages are down, but it seems like every punt is inside of the 20, and many of them inside the 5, he's awesome, I'd give him an A.

PS Ryan Longwell has the best QB rating in the league.

BadlandsVikings
11-06-2006, 10:09 PM
O-line doen't get a report card.
It deserves a trip to the principals office and year in detention.

minvikes01
11-06-2006, 10:24 PM
i agree with you except i would give the DBs a C-

LunchBox
11-06-2006, 11:25 PM
These are my ratings vs. what i expected.

QB- C+
Exactly what you expect from Brad Johnson.
Oh the whole, few yards, few points, few mistakes

RB- B+ Taylor has been very good.
Richardson was a good pickup

TE- C Are Wiggins and Kleinsausage even playing out there?
Doesn't the west coast offense like to use the tight ends?

WR- C When Travis Taylor is your #1 reciever...again, this is what you expect Troy's drops have hurt (next year he'll be good)

OL- C- Alright, this drives me nuts, people talk like we have a good offensive line.
We don't.
Hutchinson is a very good run blocker.
He's been a good player.
Birk is not the player he was, but is still an above average center.
McKinnie, oh man is he overrated.
He gives NO effort on almost any run play.
Just watch him for 10 plays or so.
He tip-toes around out there like he's afraid of getting hurt.
He has a tendency to guard his knees, like he's too tall and is afraid of someone falling on his leg and rolling up his knee.
We haven't been able to run left at will like people thought we would because he is a very bad (not bad, not average) run blocking tackle by NFL standards.
Also, he's been beat a couple times on pass rushes due to lack of effort.
Not that the other guy was better, McKinnie just took the play off.


K- B Longwells been pretty solid.
Been a long time since we've had a pretty solid kicker

P- C- Is Kluwe's injury from last year still affecting him?

DL- B+ Good against the run, not as good of a pass rush as i expected.

LB- A- How long has it been since we've had linebackers making plays and not being out of position?
When was the last time this happened? 98??

CB- B+ Griffin looks like he'll be a stud in the future.
Our corners are making plays out there.
The Pats made us looks silly, though

S- B+ Smith is much better than i thought, though i wasn't expecting much.
Sharper is still good

BrooksBollingerForQB
11-06-2006, 11:43 PM
QB- A + because he is achieving everything I though he would do at the start of the season, and he has reached and exceeding everyone of my expectations. I thought this would be a bad year for him.

RB-B + I hated the pick-up of Chester Taylor, and still truely believe Laurence Maroney would have another 100-200 yds behind this line and especially the left side, he seems slow to the hole at times, but he has exceeded my expectations.

WR- B they are decent a job for their talent level. Jury is still out on williamson, but Marcus Robinson is the only guy who had been a true number one before, so you can't be too hard on this group, especially with the unexpected departure of Koren Robinson, then you again we shouldn't have relied on him with his past.

TE- D you can say what you want jermaine wiggins is dropping passes this year, and just not finding the open spots like he used. and kimmy kleinsasser is non exsistent.

OL- F suppsoed to be the strength of the offense, and its only been a liability, take away the right side and I give them a B.

DL- B- I had expectations for the defense this year, thought there would be alot more sacks, but james did get hurt, and they are doing a great job with rotating and stuffing the run.

LB - B +, it would have been an if not for the patriots game, by far this group of guys is the most over performing unit on the team.

CB - B - mostly because of the past game, but also missed tackles, and lack of ints, still a very solid group.

S- A because Darrne Sharper can flat out play, this guy is a ball hawk. Dwight Smith not quite sold on, but Sharper is a beast.

P- B Kluew is coming of a torn acl, next year he'll be back to normal, but still doing a decent job, of getting hangtime for us.

K- D, and thats only cause Longwell threw a td, 2 mil a year for a kicker, not worth it.

Offense Coaching- F the offense has been pitiful, absolutely pitiful.

Defensive Coaching- A- I give Tomilin an A-
because he has been able to install a new system well build on the momentum of last years great defensive run, He'll learn to come up with better shemes against better teams.

Special Teams C looks the same stuff as last to me, minus kickoff returns.

Head Coach F, Childress is supposed to be a offensive guru and great with quarterbacks, so far we have no offense and he can't find away to squeeze enough juice out of brad. Also he preaches discipline, but we commit far to many penalties. I'd say f minues, but he did hire Tomlin, by far his best move so far.

arrested_developer
11-06-2006, 11:53 PM
anyone who gives the tight ends a bad rap doesn't know what they're talking about. Childress is making them basically useless in his offense. It's hard to catch balls that aren't thrown to you.

olson_10
11-06-2006, 11:55 PM
"arrested_developer" wrote:


anyone who gives the tight ends a bad rap doesn't know what they're talking about. Childress is making them basically useless in his offense. It's hard to catch balls that aren't thrown to you.

exactly..brad childress made wiggins lose weight and do this and that..he came out and said TEs have such a huge role in this offense, blah blah..instead, hes phased them completely out of the offense altogether..you cant even grade those guys because theyve played almost no role on this team up to this point

BrooksBollingerForQB
11-06-2006, 11:57 PM
"arrested_developer" wrote:


anyone who gives the tight ends a bad rap doesn't know what they're talking about. Childress is making them basically useless in his offense. It's hard to catch balls that aren't thrown to you.


true they have had few chances, but lets face it when jermain wiggins has had oppurtunites, he hasn't made the most out of it. and Kleinsasser hasn't been a huge help when he's blocking on the right side. Thats why i gave them a low grade.

Gift
11-07-2006, 12:03 AM
QB:D
Change is needed.
Too many dumps, too many INT's, too many fumbles, too many wasted throws to guys 5 yrds in front of the endzone/sticks, too little leadership & too little scoring.

RB:B
We have been pretty good here, could be better.
Taylor can make moves in the open field, has good speed and does fall forward but he doesn't break many tackles.
A really nice addiction is a very strong blocking fullback in Richardson , he has already saved many a play since we brought him in

WR:F
Total colapse.
With Robinson out they have done nothing in the way of playing like
NFL recievers.
They kill drives every chance they get & prove to get worse as the season goes on.
Also, you lose a grade for having Marcus Robinson as your best reciever in the first place.

TE:C
Not their fault, they are just not being used.
3rd down there really shouldn't be any other target than wiggy, but some one seems to have other plans.

OL:D
Having a great left side does not protect the QB from the right side.

DL:B+
Almost great.
They can run stop with anyone but the haven't
shown an ability to reach the qb without the LB'ers


LB:C+
Napo is starting to develop & that showing in our run defense but the slowness of this group as a whole really shows in the passing game.


DB:B-
They have had some bumps on the road but as a whole are holding it together.
They run stop well on winfields side of course.
Smoot has under produced an missed big tackles and plays everything too soft.
But we have only been torched one & are 33% of the great thing that is minnesota D.

ST:D
Good points, things like what happened vs New England.
Bad points, things that happened right after that thing that happened in New England.
Oh, and the punitng has been a joke.

olson_10
11-07-2006, 12:04 AM
QB: D
hard to give much better than that, because we dont know who is at fault for this teams inability to get on the scoreboard, and Brad hasnt necessarely stepped up and done anything heroic to earn a better grade

RB: A

none of us thought taylor would play this well up to this point, and he holds onto the ball very well..moore has made some solid plays as well to contribute from time to time..richardson is his usual self opening lanes, and catching some nice passes in key situations for first downs..when were using these guys and trying to establish them, they are doing a great job

TE: no rating..theyve been phased out of the offense and serve no purpose other than to block, and i havent seen anything to show whether theyve been outstanding or bad at it up to this point..nothing about them sticks out

O-Line: D
we all expected ALOT more out of these guys..brad gets pressured alot, and many of our runs depend on second and third efforts from taylor and moore to gain good yardage..they havent really played THAT badly, but with the money were spending, they should be a ton better

D-Line: B
they stop the run well with the help of the LBs, but they arent getting enough pressure at times to stop QBs from finding guys in between 5-15 yards repeatedly..they are sensational against the run though

LBs: B
these guys havent done a terrible job in coverage, and have done a great job against the run..a pleasant suprise on this defense..they also get pressure when we sparingly call blitzes

CBs: B
all are playing fairly well, but have looked bad at times because of the lack of pressure up front..would like to see more INTs

Special Teams: C
i give a C here because Longwell has been good, and so has Kluwe, but our kick and punt coverage has looked terrible this season, leaving the other team too good of field position alot of the time..Moore has 1 explosive return, so has johnson, but other than that, nothing special

Coach Childress: C
he came in and talked about smashmouth football and toughness, but we havent seen that since week 2..he preached onfield discipline, which also hasnt kicked in yet..his playcalls are at times questionable, but he did beat carolina, seattle, and washington to get us off to a quick start..the team came out flat against san fran a week after getting embarrassed at home, which isnt totally his fault, but uve gotta think at least some part of that rests on his shoulders, especially after he talked about preparation when he got the job..i give him a C only because he hired Mike Tomlin who has done a fantastic job, but without that i couldnt give him more than a D

OnlyVikes
11-07-2006, 12:19 AM
Fair grades all around IMO but I think the O-line deserves a C instead of a D; it isn't Hutch and Birk's fault that the rest of the line can't stop anything.

HornedHat
11-07-2006, 01:57 AM
I am tempted to give QB an F for the last two weeks alone. I also would give Childress a D, if for no ther reason than we should not have lost to San Fran. The coach needs to instill pride and guts to avpid that loss.

digital420
11-07-2006, 05:53 AM
I really can't say B.j deserves an F. nor does the O line deserve a D.

a lot of the preasure is coming from lack of open WR's, why we arn't going to the TE's is strange but i gotta let the coaches deal with that.


B.j has made some very poor decisions, but he has also led us to some game winning scoring drives. he's last few games hvae been freakishly not him. so i'll hold off giving him the failing grade until he truely fails the team.


the O line is highly paid, and therefore will be critized based on it. the left side moves people backward, but the right is suspect and being beat a lot. Defences are keying in on this, and sending extra people left as they know the backfield TE's FB are sliding right side to help them out. that's how i've seen the left get beat.

one of the things that was supposed to help was B.j's quick release. it's worked somewhat, but it keeps us from going long. and the dink dunk combined with C.taylors runs should work, but we seem to drop all that when we need 5 yrds and go for the big hit.. which has yet to work!!!

i'd give the play calling at this point a c - , d+
with hopes that it shows i'm wrong.

DiGiTaL

DeathtoDenny
11-07-2006, 07:47 AM
If we lose to the friggin Packers at the dome it will be a big fat F-.