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ultravikingfan
10-30-2006, 11:09 PM
You are now Brad Childress.
The just got stomped by the Pats.
Although you are still a good team; what changes would you make?
I would like to see some well thought out responses and not "bench brads dum butt, he #@%$^% blows".

Should be interesting.

Gift
10-30-2006, 11:10 PM
Well, 1st tell tomlin to knock off the rush 4 zone crap.
Then wait til the offseason so we can drop the dreadful WCO.
As of right now though, we are in it for the long haul.

thevikingfan
10-30-2006, 11:13 PM
A silly question cocaine of coarse! JOKES JOKES! Um i would say get some new offensive formation maybe some draws i would like to personally see a 4 wide formation

Garland Greene
10-30-2006, 11:14 PM
"Gift" wrote:


Well, 1st tell tomlin to knock off the rush 4 zone crap.
Then wait til the offseason so we can drop the dreadful WCO.
As of right now though, we are in it for the long haul.


its not the WCO its that snior citizen playing QB

ultravikingfan
10-30-2006, 11:15 PM
"thevikingfan" wrote:


A silly question cocaine of coarse! JOKES JOKES! Um i would say get some new offensive formation maybe some draws i would like to personally see a 4 wide formation


Draw only works good with an effective passing game.
Nobody would ever buy it when they can cover our WR's with 1 guy and a ref.

thevikingfan
10-30-2006, 11:17 PM
"ultravikingfan" wrote:


"thevikingfan" wrote:


A silly question cocaine of coarse! JOKES JOKES! Um i would say get some new offensive formation maybe some draws i would like to personally see a 4 wide formation


Draw only works good with an effective passing game.
Nobody would ever buy it when they can cover our WR's with 1 guy and a ref.



Well our passing offense can work if u change it around a little.Too much emphasis has been put on the west coast offense i rarely see our wr run route deeper than 15 yards.I saw run some deeper cross routes or a wr screen with t will OPEN IT UP!

PurplePride80
10-30-2006, 11:21 PM
Although our defense was bad against the pass tonight, I still think were a very good defensive team, and we should get better as the season goes along.

Our poor offense continues to put our defense in bad situations and that's part of the reason we gave up so many points tonight.

We have to produce a strong running game, or our offense will continue to struggle for the rest of the season. The Patriots stopped our run attack tonight, and Brad Johnson was forced to make plays against a 3-4 defense that our offense hasn't seen all season.

V4L
10-30-2006, 11:23 PM
For starters I would... Uhhhhh IDK!

We have to spread the D out somehow.. They get too much pressure and blitz us hardcore.. We have no passing attack so they keep a bunch of people in the box and destroy our run game.. And eventually kills our pass game cuz of the pressure..

I'm thinkin we need to get T-jack a couple reps.. We got some easy games coming up.. We need a more mobile QB IMO.. Keep the D honest

On D... We definitley need to get ride of this zone stuff or whatever we ran tonight.. Brady is pickin us apart.. There always seems to be an open guy.. Alot of it has to do with the line getting NO pressure.. We need to play more agressive some how..

Jeez IDK what im talking about.. ha






One Love

CCthebest
10-31-2006, 12:16 AM
If I were Childress first thing id do is fire myself.
Just kidding haha

Id send in all the blown ref calls. Those refs shouldnt be allowed to work again.

Id tell BJ the job is still yours, but use your head.

Id let the off courdinator do the play calling

BadlandsVikings
10-31-2006, 12:21 AM
I would throw away the whole play book and write a new one.
It's not like it would hurt anything.

minvikes01
10-31-2006, 12:28 AM
start trying out some FA DBs

TRAMBIA
10-31-2006, 12:38 AM
throw out your playbook and steal lovie smiths ;D

Caine
10-31-2006, 12:39 AM
#1:
I hire a REAL Offensive Coordinator - who calls the plays - and not a lackey who won't rock the boat.

#2:
I look for a RG and a RT in the Off Season.

#3:
I target several good receivers in the Off Season.

#4:
I honestly evaluate Tarvaris Jackson in the Off Season and if he's not ready to go, I grab Matt Schaub in FA.
Brad Johnson will NOT start here next season.

#5:
I seriously consider benching Ahmad Carroll.....errr...Ronyell Whitaker.

#6:
I look for faster Linebackers...with vicious streaks in them.

#7:
I hire a REAL Offensive Coordinator and let HIM call the plays.
Oh, did I already say that?
Well, it deserves to be said twice.

....and that's where I'd start.

Caine

kramer9guy
10-31-2006, 12:41 AM
If I was Brad Childress, to be honest, I don't think that there are really any stop-gap type measures that can help us out at this point in the season.

I think we should stick with Brad for the rest of the season as long as he's healthy (like it or not, he's honestly our best chance to win). Hope Bethel Johson can add a spark to our weak WR core. Stiffen up the O-line. Try to call some better games. I think it's simple this season.

Now...next season...watch out. Personally I think we're going to see some major roster changes once again. But until then...I'm still 100% behind the team we currently have assembled.

Go Vikes!!!

V4L
10-31-2006, 12:46 AM
Right on Caine!!

I'm still bitter we didn't target Branch or Porter.. Oh well hopefuly we can find a quality FA WR..

Artis Hicks sucks.. Won't get better IMO.. I'm hoping MJ does though since this is his second year only.. So target a RG.. Then a RT if possible

Hopefully Greenway can come in next year and play somwhere.. I still like EJ and Napo.. So take out Leber





One Love

MaddenVodkaAddict
10-31-2006, 12:50 AM
First of all, some of us need a grammar lesson.
The correct phrase would read, "if I were" instead of "If I was".
Moving on, if I were Mr. Childress, I would be more worried about building a new stadium than rearranging players, as the Minnesota Vikings lost to a three time world defending champion in the New England Patriots as opposed to the lowly San Francisco 49ers.

kramer9guy
10-31-2006, 12:52 AM
"MaddenVodkaAddict" wrote:


First of all, some of us need a grammar lesson.
The correct phrase would read, "if I were" instead of "If I was".
Moving on, if I were Mr. Childress, I would be more worried about building a new stadium than rearranging players, as the Minnesota Vikings lost to a three time world defending champion in the New England Patriots as opposed to the lowly San Francisco 49ers.


So sorry.
::)

x-ray jeff
10-31-2006, 12:54 AM
I would use Richardson as the primary receiver sometimes instead of just as an outlet.
Maybe give him a few carries as well.


More blitzing off the corner combined with a line stunt or two.
Anything to get some pass rush.

kramer9guy
10-31-2006, 12:59 AM
...more Mewelde (at least as long as he's healthy).
;)

Caine
10-31-2006, 01:01 AM
"MaddenVodkaAddict" wrote:


First of all, some of us need a grammar lesson.
The correct phrase would read, "if I were" instead of "If I was".

And we should care because.......

Further, the use of the inclusive, "us", especially when the author in no way, shape, or form includes him or her self in the statement, implies a believed sense of superiority.
I certainly hope that was inadvertant.

Finally, since both forms are accepted in common usage, the entire point is moot.
There are no points deducted from a post based upon spelling and grammar.
The post is instead graded based upon content...so next time, have some.

Caine

cajunvike
10-31-2006, 01:13 AM
If I'm Brad Childress, I tell my guys that this game was just ONE GAME, albeit a BAD one.
I would demand that my guys win the games that they are SUPPOSED to win (no more losing to crappy teams like Buffalo)...we should be 8-3 one month from now...and well on our way to making the playoffs (Pittsburgh won the Super Bowl as a #6 seed).


It's simple...we win all the games that we are supposed to win against weaker teams...and play well against the remaining teams and steal one or two and we get into the playoffs.


After that, it's all about taking it one game at a time and not making the kinds of mistakes (and getting a few calls go our way...not like tonight) that sunk our A$$ES tonight and we have a legitimate shot at going far...much higher than any of us realistically expected!

Now, there are lessons to be learned from tonight's game...and as the head coach, I would make sure that those lessons were noted and make the necessary corrections so that it doesn't happen again.

F*** the Patsies!!!
ESPECIALLY their fair-weather fans (the vast majority of them!)

cogitans
10-31-2006, 06:55 AM
"ultravikingfan" wrote:


You are now Brad Childress.
The just got stomped by the Pats.
Although you are still a good team; what changes would you make?
I would like to see some well thought out responses and not "bench brads dum butt, he #@%$^% blows".

Should be interesting.


Well first of all I would not panic. We lost a game at home to a really good team.

If I had analysed my defense corectly, I would have known that a good QB could pick our passing D appart if he got the time. That weakness has now been exposed, but I still have a good run D. I would talk too Mike about focusing on our coverage even more in practice, and get it to work.

Then I would look at my offense. I think I would change the way I aproach the passing game. I would find some way to get more shots down field. I want to trust my recivers to make plays. Put some balls out there when the recievers are in single coverage and trust the guys to make the play.

Edit: I almost forgot. I would also look at my two loses to AFC teams, and think to my self, that I need to not abandoning the run even though I'm behind. Because there comes nothing good of doing that.

JellyBean2144
10-31-2006, 07:12 AM
Straight Jack!!! No Ice. No water. Just straight

ultravikingfan
10-31-2006, 07:50 AM
My next move as Brad is to go about this week as usual.
They lost to a good team, although ugly.
Brad will start and he needs the support of his team on that.
I would hope they address the issues in the passing game and the coverage issues.
Maybe institute some alternate coverages when we are just being totally picked apart.

Prophet
10-31-2006, 08:48 AM
"ultravikingfan" wrote:


You are now Brad Childress.
The just got stomped by the Pats.
Although you are still a good team; what changes would you make?
I would like to see some well thought out responses and not "bench brads dum butt, he #@%$^% blows".

Should be interesting.


(Tue.) I would painstakingly analyze every second of the game film and use this game film as another stepping stone for improving the O, D, and special teams.
The game film is a bluieprint of weaknesses on the team.
I would then create a hierarchy of what aspects of the weaknesses can be addressed in the short- and long-term.

(Tue. night) The coaching staff would be invited after my initial analysis of the film and their input would be integrated into the plan.


(Wed. early a.m.) Have a team meeting with an overall summary of the game and the coaching staff's interpretation of the film and have a time for input from players regarding the observations.

Wed. late a.m.) Break team into groups with their respective coaches and break down the game in detail related to positions and discuss pros/cons of the game.

(Wed. afternoon) Begin preparation for S.F. while integrating the short-term solutions learned from the NE game.

etc.

VikesFan787
10-31-2006, 08:49 AM
Trade for a good defensive back.

arialassault84
10-31-2006, 09:13 AM
If I'm Brad C. I get MEMO the freakin BALLLLLL. He looks like the only playmaker we have.Dump this artose pinner crappp!!! I also start the Rookie. At the end of the year i dump Brad J. and if we are not in a top five slot for the draft, i trade Troy W. and our 1st rd to move up and snag Calvin Johnson at all cost!!!!!!!

6-KINGS
10-31-2006, 09:18 AM
I would move the Vikings out of Minnesota.

Purple Floyd
10-31-2006, 10:59 AM
The thing that should be obvious about the game is that NE has the template for how to run a football franchise today. Childress should look at how the patriots always have coaches that can teach the players how to do their job and they put players on their roster that can understand and execute that plan.

While we may piss and moan about our receivers,qb,secondary,offensive line... just look at the coaches and players that leave NE on a yearly basis and they just plug in new guys and win.Every team loses players to injury,the good ones can plug in a replacement and still perform at a high level.

So with that said i would look at myself and see if I am putting the right staff in place to teach my players what I want them to do,then I would look at my playbook and see if it is capable of winning games versus my opponents and then I would look at the players and see if they have the ability to comprehend and execute what is expected of them and then proceed to fix everything that was answered with a "No".

Vikes
10-31-2006, 11:12 AM
You thank them for beating your ass. They are a GOOD football team you can pay enough money to get taught this in school. Good lesson and way to expose our 'D' we build from here. Lesson learned i hope.

651Vikes
10-31-2006, 11:28 AM
On Offense.. I would fire the offense coordinator and call my own plays...

Seriously, you could feel that it was going to be ugly when we didn't score a field goal on our opening drive.

On defense.. I would scratch my head because I can't even get the offense working...

This defense is the same defense (personel wise) we have from last year. Last year they were very weak against the pass. Cottrel does not seem to bring pressure enough and other teams take advantage. This year.. The differense is that Tomlin creates some type of pressure. As you all saw, the Pats knew this and saw it as weakness. So to stop the pressure, they just made sure the Vikes can only bring 4 rushers and give brady some time. Remember last year when you would always scream at the D and say WTF! Blitz or something! If the Pats would of let the Vikes get their pressure packages rolling, they would of been in a hard to win game.

Teams will use this tactic against the Vikes. Maybe not as much as the Pats have but in critical times. Just got to cross our fingers Vikes find a solution.

PAvikesfan
10-31-2006, 11:37 AM
nope and nope and nope.

just make adjustments.
The offense, even when running on ecstacy, can only score 20 points on it's own.
so, until personel changes are made next season, we are stuck.
our defense is still tops in the league.
our runs D is supurb and our pass D is suspect, especially and obviously against a 4 and 5 wide system.
out LB corp is playing better than last year but they still have problems coving.

our defense is 10 times better this year even after that loss.
some adjustments, the right adjustments will correct the coverage problems.

our offense is slow and methodical, which also means that it is hard to win if we have more than 2 turn overs.
the pats took us out our run game early and set the tone by scoring so fast.
then BJ throwe a horrible INT in the endzone and the game was already in the PAts favor.

VikemanX84
10-31-2006, 01:06 PM
1. Bench Brad Johnson, Start T-Jack.

2.
Run the ball and run it to the left.

3.
Tell Tomlin to figure out a way to defend the slant and the underneath passing.
Thats what killed us this week.

4. Tell Scott Studwell to start looking at CBs for the draft.
We're going to need one or two.

DustinDupont
10-31-2006, 01:12 PM
1. Bench Brad Johnson, Start T-Jack.

2.
Run the ball and run it to the left.

3.
Tell Tomlin to figure out a way to defend the slant and the underneath passing.
Thats what killed us this week.

4. Tell Scott Studwell to start looking at CBs for the draft.
We're going to need one or two.
tru i agree with all of this i would rather have the future qb come in who can actually throw the ball more then 15 cuz we got an easy schedule and it will be a confident booster and we should run left more and yes we do need another corner even tho smoot and griffin diidnt play that bad but winfield and carpenter i think got eatin alive all night

SharperVikings
10-31-2006, 01:28 PM
"DustinDupont" wrote:


1. Bench Brad Johnson, Start T-Jack.

2.
Run the ball and run it to the left.

3.
Tell Tomlin to figure out a way to defend the slant and the underneath passing.
Thats what killed us this week.

4. Tell Scott Studwell to start looking at CBs for the draft.
We're going to need one or two.
tru i agree with all of this i would rather have the future qb come in who can actually throw the ball more then 15 cuz we got an easy schedule and it will be a confident booster and we should run left more and yes we do need another corner even tho smoot and griffin diidnt play that bad but winfield and carpenter i think got eatin alive all night


1.
That is wishful thinking....As much as we want him to play, he is not going to unless the two ahead of him get injured.
If I was coach, he would be starting next game...but the reality is its not going to happen.


2.
The only way we can do this more successfully is to have a mobile and hard throwing qb in the game, aka Tjack!
If Tjack played, he would back safteys and corners up, and running game would improve amazingly.
Right now its not that good because safteys and corners cheat up beacuse bj is playing!

3.
I agree....that raped us!
I feel that Tomlin will come through and find a way this week, and they can test it out against the 49ers!

4.
1 cb!
Griffin is a stud, smoot is questionable.
I wouldnt be surprised if Griffin started next year over smoot, or they tried to seek smoot a trade on draft day!
I think we need to draft a WR, DT, and OT/OG.


Nice post dustin!

Minnesota Moving Co.
10-31-2006, 01:42 PM
The problem is we only have 2 good corners Griffith and Winfield, after that there isn't much. So when a team goes 4 or 5 wide we are in trouble. Smoot has fallen off the map and there's not much depth behind that. My answer is dump Smoot and his contract and lure a free agent in...Nate Clements

If they were to change quarterbacks, T-Jack still wouldn't play, Bollinger is the backup. My Answer play Johnson the rest of this year, get Jake Plummer next year and T-jack can back him up and learn alittle more.

Also play M.Moore alittle more, he's and explosive player that remains on the bench for the most parts, run some screens, some pitch out runs with him, the stuff he's more explosive at then Taylor.

Last but not least...FIRE Darrell Bevel and change up your play calling, some of the play selection has been horrible. Use Wiggins more at least he can catch, use Tony Richardson more...use more shotgun try something other then running twice up the middle, and then throwing a 5 yard pass when you need 7 on third down.

It's getting frustrating

ultravikingfan
10-31-2006, 03:22 PM
"6-KINGS" wrote:


I would move the Vikings out of Minnesota.


LOL!

You are always good for a post like this.

cajunvike
10-31-2006, 03:41 PM
"Minnesota" wrote:


The problem is we only have 2 good corners Griffith and Winfield, after that there isn't much. So when a team goes 4 or 5 wide we are in trouble. Smoot has fallen off the map and there's not much depth behind that. My answer is dump Smoot and his contract and lure a free agent in...Nate Clements

If they were to change quarterbacks, T-Jack still wouldn't play, Bollinger is the backup. My Answer play Johnson the rest of this year, get Jake Plummer next year and T-jack can back him up and learn alittle more.

Also play M.Moore alittle more, he's and explosive player that remains on the bench for the most parts, run some screens, some pitch out runs with him, the stuff he's more explosive at then Taylor.

Last but not least...FIRE Darrell Bevel and change up your play calling, some of the play selection has been horrible. Use Wiggins more at least he can catch, use Tony Richardson more...use more shotgun try something other then running twice up the middle, and then throwing a 5 yard pass when you need 7 on third down.

It's getting frustrating


Jake Plummer...are you serious?
:o

PurpleRide
10-31-2006, 04:01 PM
"Minnesota" wrote:


The problem is we only have 2 good corners Griffith and Winfield, after that there isn't much. So when a team goes 4 or 5 wide we are in trouble. Smoot has fallen off the map and there's not much depth behind that. My answer is dump Smoot and his contract and lure a free agent in...Nate Clements

If they were to change quarterbacks, T-Jack still wouldn't play, Bollinger is the backup. My Answer play Johnson the rest of this year, get Jake Plummer next year and T-jack can back him up and learn alittle more.

Also play M.Moore alittle more, he's and explosive player that remains on the bench for the most parts, run some screens, some pitch out runs with him, the stuff he's more explosive at then Taylor.

Last but not least...FIRE Darrell Bevel and change up your play calling, some of the play selection has been horrible. Use Wiggins more at least he can catch, use Tony Richardson more...use more shotgun try something other then running twice up the middle, and then throwing a 5 yard pass when you need 7 on third down.

It's getting frustrating


You missed the game last night?
Our stud DB was giving up the yards and the TD.
Smoot did a good job last night.
On D we were out coached, we do need a nickel DB, smoot and windfield are good anchors for the D.
I just dont understand how smoot is so bad in peoples eyes around here.
He has yet to give up a TD, the style the cordinator wants is allowing short passes with no YAC, smoot and windfield do not give many YAC.
We do need a pass rusher, we do need a nickle back, we do need a QB that can move the ball so the D is not on the field the entire game.

cajunvike
10-31-2006, 04:10 PM
"PurpleRide" wrote:


"Minnesota" wrote:


The problem is we only have 2 good corners Griffith and Winfield, after that there isn't much. So when a team goes 4 or 5 wide we are in trouble. Smoot has fallen off the map and there's not much depth behind that. My answer is dump Smoot and his contract and lure a free agent in...Nate Clements

If they were to change quarterbacks, T-Jack still wouldn't play, Bollinger is the backup. My Answer play Johnson the rest of this year, get Jake Plummer next year and T-jack can back him up and learn alittle more.

Also play M.Moore alittle more, he's and explosive player that remains on the bench for the most parts, run some screens, some pitch out runs with him, the stuff he's more explosive at then Taylor.

Last but not least...FIRE Darrell Bevel and change up your play calling, some of the play selection has been horrible. Use Wiggins more at least he can catch, use Tony Richardson more...use more shotgun try something other then running twice up the middle, and then throwing a 5 yard pass when you need 7 on third down.

It's getting frustrating


You missed the game last night?
Our stud DB was giving up the yards and the TD.
Smoot did a good job last night.
On D we were out coached, we do need a nickel DB, smoot and windfield are good anchors for the D.
I just dont understand how smoot is so bad in peoples eyes around here.
He has yet to give up a TD, the style the cordinator wants is allowing short passes with no YAC, smoot and windfield do not give many YAC.
We do need a pass rusher, we do need a nickle back, we do need a QB that can move the ball so the D is not on the field the entire game.



SOMEBODY was giving up MUCHO YAC last night...most of Brady's passing yardage was YAC...the ONLY deep pass he threw all night long was picked off by Sharper!

Prophet
10-31-2006, 04:13 PM
"cajunvike" wrote:


"PurpleRide" wrote:


"Minnesota" wrote:


The problem is we only have 2 good corners Griffith and Winfield, after that there isn't much. So when a team goes 4 or 5 wide we are in trouble. Smoot has fallen off the map and there's not much depth behind that. My answer is dump Smoot and his contract and lure a free agent in...Nate Clements

If they were to change quarterbacks, T-Jack still wouldn't play, Bollinger is the backup. My Answer play Johnson the rest of this year, get Jake Plummer next year and T-jack can back him up and learn alittle more.

Also play M.Moore alittle more, he's and explosive player that remains on the bench for the most parts, run some screens, some pitch out runs with him, the stuff he's more explosive at then Taylor.

Last but not least...FIRE Darrell Bevel and change up your play calling, some of the play selection has been horrible. Use Wiggins more at least he can catch, use Tony Richardson more...use more shotgun try something other then running twice up the middle, and then throwing a 5 yard pass when you need 7 on third down.

It's getting frustrating


You missed the game last night?
Our stud DB was giving up the yards and the TD.
Smoot did a good job last night.
On D we were out coached, we do need a nickel DB, smoot and windfield are good anchors for the D.
I just dont understand how smoot is so bad in peoples eyes around here.
He has yet to give up a TD, the style the cordinator wants is allowing short passes with no YAC, smoot and windfield do not give many YAC.
We do need a pass rusher, we do need a nickle back, we do need a QB that can move the ball so the D is not on the field the entire game.



SOMEBODY was giving up MUCHO YAC last night...most of Brady's passing yardage was YAC...the ONLY deep pass he threw all night long was picked off by Sharper!


This is the only YAC the Vikings had their minds on:

http://ladywildlife.com/animal/yak.jpg

Wasn't it Smoot that did the arm tackle at the end of the 3rd quarter on this play:

1-10-MIN10 (:12) (Shotgun) T.Brady pass short left to C.Jackson for 10 yards, TOUCHDOWN.

Vikefanman2000
10-31-2006, 04:54 PM
Did someone actually suggest getting Plummer next year?
:o

Going back to the title of the tread....You're Brad Childress...what's your fix?
If I am Brad, I go out, get a cheeseburger, fries, and a shake....sit down...and relax!

This is not the time to panic, it is not the time do make changes.
He has a team VERY capable of winning most of the games on the back half of the schedule.

Brad, Brad, and the rest of the Vikes got a lesson last night that only cost them 1/16th of the season.
If they learn from it, than it was worth the cost.

I am amazed at the swing of this board in an 8 day period of time.
From planning a tickertape parade following the Seattle win, to everyone lining up to "drink the koolaid" after last nights game....geeessssss.

We will not face another QB that has the ability to make the throws that Brady made last night.....at least, not until the playoffs.
Tomlin will learn from this and be prepared for it.
Everyone on the board was talking about the way that the Cardinals EXPOSED the Bears....
they gave away the blue print to beating them.
You could tell that even after a bye week, the 49ers could not do anything to take advantage of this new found weakness....


The same will hold true this week.
49ers dont have a QB smart enough or the receivers cabable of taking advantage of the game plan that NE showed last night.
Our Defense WILL dominate this next game...and many more to come!

Mr Anderson
10-31-2006, 05:40 PM
Always put Kleinsasser on the right side, or keep a RB in for every pass, the right side is horrible on pass protection, if Sugar-Cain can blow by three plays in a row, something is wrong. Give Chester more than 10 carries, notice how we've lost 2 out of our 3 games when he got 10 or less carries, I know New England has a good rush defense, but Childress is "Committed to running the ball" and if you're committed to something you don't give up on it in the 2nd quarter. Set Brad straight, and never play Bollinger again, we didn't use a 2nd round pick on a QB for him to sit on the bench in garbage time.

Defense, talk to the refs before the game, tell them to call false start and holding on the O-line, and soften up on the illegal contact. And keep blitzing, don't give up on it, just bring one safety forward for the middle of the field.

I think the biggest fix of all would be put up 40 on the niners next week, and hold them to under 10, get 3 take aways, and hold them under 60 rushing yards.

A big blowout will put some confidence back in our game and we will cruise to at least a 12-4 record, 13-3 IF IF IF IF IF IF we beat Chicago.

There is no good reason we should lose any of our next 8 games, excluding Chicago of course.

As a coach he can't let the team, especially the D get down on themselves, that WILL ruin a good thing. Come back strong this week in practice, and on sunday, and we will be fine.

singersp
10-31-2006, 08:46 PM
If I was Childress, I would admit that I was wrong in deciding to call all of the offensive plays & pass that job down to the OC Bevell, who was hired & paid to do it.

threepete21
10-31-2006, 09:42 PM
I read these posts and first and foremost there is a reason why we are all reading these and not coaching.
Second, who out there thought we were superbowl contenders this year?
Takes atleast 2 years maybe 3.
We got out coached on monday, but what do you expect when you have Belicheck against basically a rookie coaching staff.
This loss may be a good thing, from what I have seen from Childress is that he won't settle for OK, he and his staff are probably still watching the film

singersp
10-31-2006, 10:10 PM
"Acumen" wrote:

Wasn't it Smoot that did the arm tackle at the end of the 3rd quarter on this play:

1-10-MIN10 (:12) (Shotgun) T.Brady pass short left to C.Jackson for 10 yards, TOUCHDOWN.


I don't believe so. Smoot had a decent night, including a tackle/fumble when the Patriots were close to scoring. It was in the 4th quarter & it was the fumble that Belichek challenged.

Was it Smoot that knocked the ball out or was it the 2nd defender coming in to assist that got it out? Not 100% sure, but I believe the 2nd defender was Dwight Smith.

cajunvike
10-31-2006, 10:15 PM
"threepete21" wrote:


I read these posts and first and foremost there is a reason why we are all reading these and not coaching.
Second, who out there thought we were superbowl contenders this year?
Takes atleast 2 years maybe 3.
We got out coached on monday, but what do you expect when you have Belicheck against basically a rookie coaching staff.
This loss may be a good thing, from what I have seen from Childress is that he won't settle for OK, he and his staff are probably still watching the film


I can stomach the loss...what I can't stomach is the BS calls by the refs...obviously poor calls that time and time again went against us...this shouldn't be tolerated by the NFL, yet they did it in the Super Bowl and did it again on Monday Night Football...shameful to say the least!!!

singersp
10-31-2006, 10:26 PM
"threepete21" wrote:


I read these posts and first and foremost there is a reason why we are all reading these and not coaching.
Second, who out there thought we were superbowl contenders this year?
Takes atleast 2 years maybe 3.
We got out coached on monday, but what do you expect when you have Belicheck against basically a rookie coaching staff.
This loss may be a good thing, from what I have seen from Childress is that he won't settle for OK, he and his staff are probably still watching the film


Well he ended up having to settle for a lot less than OK last night.
;)

threepete21
10-31-2006, 10:28 PM
I would agree with you on the refs, I just hope we'll have the chance to let them screw someone else in the Superbowl against us in the next year or two.

threepete21
10-31-2006, 10:30 PM
Singer, I didn't see Childress out there making any tackles.
I think you are smart enough to get my point on Childress.
There also wasn't a lot of other guys out there making tackles either!

singersp
10-31-2006, 11:31 PM
"threepete21" wrote:


Singer, I didn't see Childress out there making any tackles.
I think you are smart enough to get my point on Childress.
There also wasn't a lot of other guys out there making tackles either!


There is a lot more to the game than just tackling. You said yourself Childress was out coached. Our offensive play calling is also a big reason why we are not scoring points.

threepete21
10-31-2006, 11:38 PM
Our offense has some major issues, I think we were out coached because of what the NE game plan was.
It would be nice to see an offensive explosion the next few games.

tb04512
11-01-2006, 01:17 AM
brad childress shouldnt be callling plays fix that and maybe see what it does for theteam then if still no luck work on what went wrong

Marrdro
11-01-2006, 12:20 PM
We need to fix the offense in the following areas:

Offense
a.
Start with a balance offense (60 Run/40 Pass) or vice versa depending on other teams weakness.
Childress needs to get a little more creative/agressive with his play calling.
Even my 16 year old son can just about predict what they will call.
b.
Quit checking down 90 percent of the passing plays.
Teams only have to defend 20 yards of the field because we can't/won't stretch the field.
c.
Move the pocket once in a while.
I know Brad is slow, but he can still roll out.

Defense
a.
If they are gonna blitz, blitz with more than 1.
5 on 5 can be picked up.

b.
Throw in a couple of delayed blitzers
c.
Put a late hit on the QB as soon as you can.
Take the 15 yards but put a hurting on him so he is a bit gunshy
;D

Overall I am pretty happy with the team this year.
Can't say it enough that we are doing better than most "Gurus" said we were going to do.
I still think we will make the playoffs this year but we will be a one and out team.
Offense just isn't getting it done nor will it with the current players we have.
Hopefully we will draft wisely again next year and things will continue to get better.

Articnv
11-02-2006, 03:47 AM
If i was Brad:

Offensive:


Run the balll in 2
RB sets:

A
Taylor to go
up the midle or off tackle
B.
Memo
for sweeps
and end arounds

Put in Tjack if Tjack still not Ready Put in brooks
reasons:
Need a Qb with mobility
They can throw deep more then 3 times
a game
You cna roll out left
or right
With more deep
passes tehy cvant put
7 or 8 in the box to stuff the run.

I said from the beging of the seaon maybe not on here but teams are going to
load up the box and make us e beat them in the air with out
the deep ball
and check down passing
were going to lose.

Actual have the OC
Call the damn balls and mix up the plays, i
was makign money predicting the next play.

If its 3rd and 7 and we pass for 5 yrds,
go for it on 4th down, conside r we wrre averign soemthign liek
3
yards a play turn it from 3 play
down to 4


Defnse:

Learn how to play cover 2.
What i seen loked liek my middle skools tm
trying
to imatate the zone and we we only won 1 that yr.

Jam the wide recivers at the lien tio mess up the timing.
Pass rush r blitz with
more then 1 guy.

Use Stunts, and delayed blitz

Specail Teams:

Nothign for return teams

Kicking, on punts learn hwo to tackle several tiem si seen them hit the guy but not wrap them up,
when you do that your giving them better postion

Vikes
11-02-2006, 05:58 AM
When will Wiggins start being used????

Zeus
11-02-2006, 08:13 AM
Offensively:
* COMMIT to the run.
Every game.

* Make better use of my TEs in the passing attack.
* Keep all 3 QBs on the active roster so that, in situations such as Monday night, it

might be possible to get Tarvaris some PT w/out the first two going down to injury.

Defensively:
* Play Greg Blue and Ced Griffen more

The Seattle stomping made a lot of fans think the Vikes were better than they are.
And the New England massacre is going to make a lot of fans think the Vikes are worse than they are.
Here's what they are:
A solid 9-7 team which has the opportunity to be a little better or a little worse.

=Z=