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cajunvike
10-23-2006, 11:17 AM
At least until the game tonight...Tiki will probably pass him...BUT I don't think that the Giants have had a bye week yet...SO once every RB has had a bye week, Chester will still be right up in there!

http://www.nfl.com/stats

Prophet
10-23-2006, 11:20 AM
It has been a while since the Viking have had an RB at the top.
Nice to see.

ChezPizmo
10-23-2006, 11:29 AM
"Acumen" wrote:


It has been a while since the Viking have had an RB at the top.
Nice to see.


Yeah, nice to see.
Shows the improvement this team has and is making.

NodakPaul
10-23-2006, 11:53 AM
Nice!
Even if Tiki passes him tonight (which isn't a lock) he will still be #2.
Way to go CT!

ItalianStallion
10-23-2006, 11:53 AM
I love how Steve Smith misses 2 games and is still 3rd in the league in receiving, that guy is an animal.

tiersius
10-23-2006, 11:54 AM
So, it's possible that at the end of week 7 in the NFL that our very own Vikings could have the #1 rusher AND the #1 defence against the rush. Who'd of thunk that.

V4L
10-23-2006, 12:04 PM
Damn I was a huge Edge supporter and was somewhat disapointed in the Chester signing.. Kudos on the signing F.O!! Damn pass me da crow





One Love

Ltrey33
10-23-2006, 12:07 PM
I really thought that Chester was going to have a great year this year coming from the Ravens. I've watched him over the past couple of years since I am friends with a lot of Ravens fans, so I'm not surprised by his success. I definately did NOT expect him to be leading the league in rushing though. That's mighty impressive. Let's hope he stays there!

VikingFanEric
10-23-2006, 12:14 PM
"cajunvike" wrote:


At least until the game tonight...Tiki will probably pass him...BUT I don't think that the Giants have had a bye week yet...SO once every RB has had a bye week, Chester will still be right up in there!

http://www.nfl.com/stats


Tiki did have a bye week...week 4 I believe.
Still, its great to see Chester up there

triedandtruevikesfan
10-23-2006, 12:15 PM
Way to go Chester!!!
I wasn't sure of the signing when it happened, but I'm happy to have been wrong!!
He was a great pick up for us!!

The Dropper
10-23-2006, 12:36 PM
Not to be negative (well, OK I guess I am being so), but imagine how many yards he'd have if Chlldress would have called more runs in Buffalo.
Either way, Chester is kicking some serious booty right now. Love it!

Benet
10-23-2006, 12:38 PM
Just looking at that, it's great that Chester is leading the league in rushing.. A real reversal in the Vikings MO. The scary part tho is Donovan McNabb throwing for more than 2000 yards and we're not even half way through the season yet!

PurplePride80
10-23-2006, 12:41 PM
Yeah, Chestor Taylor has been playing really well.

I can't wait until they update the rosters on Madden 2007, because Taylor's rating is going to rise once again.
;D

AngloVike
10-23-2006, 02:21 PM
That was the good thing to see with Taylor last night, the number of times where he was hit or tackled and then pushed ahead to gain another couple of yards. That sort of attitude is why he has pushed his way up to the top of the rankings

TARKenton
10-23-2006, 02:29 PM
What are the odds of a team having the best run attack and the best attack against the run???
Way to go Childress and Tomlin.
Keep it going all season long Vikings!!

thevikingfan
10-23-2006, 02:29 PM
"Benet" wrote:


Just looking at that, it's great that Chester is leading the league in rushing.. A real reversal in the Vikings MO. The scary part tho is Donovan McNabb throwing for more than 2000 yards and we're not even half way through the season yet!
:-\

He has played 7 games and havent had their bye week yet so basicly he has played 8 games (with the bye) he has 9 more games to go.
Basicly he is having dauntes season from 2004

ultravikingfan
10-23-2006, 02:35 PM
"thevikingfan" wrote:


"Benet" wrote:


Just looking at that, it's great that Chester is leading the league in rushing.. A real reversal in the Vikings MO. The scary part tho is Donovan McNabb throwing for more than 2000 yards and we're not even half way through the season yet!
:-\

He has played 7 games and havent had their bye week yet so basicly he has played 8 games (with the bye) he has 9 more games to go.
Basicly he is having dauntes season from 2004


He has basically played 8 games?
The bye is not considered a game.
How about he has played 7 and has 9 left?

davike
10-23-2006, 02:44 PM
i have watched that 95 yarder more times then i care to admit. and it just gets better. I love it when there was like 3 defenders and he perty much jumped right between them, great moves and great blocking made that happen. i thought this off season he might go for over 1000 yards this season, he is half way there and we still have got 10 games left. how long has it been since we have had a 10 ten RB? Micheal bennet had a # 11 season in 2002 thats our best season run since robert smith. Tiki might not take over the top spot anyways, dallas has the #2 run D in the league right ahead of us.so far they are averaging 4 yards better then us a game.

Del Rio
10-23-2006, 02:47 PM
I stated all off season this guy would not see 1000 yards rushing and he is proving me wrong every game. I love it!

cajunvike
10-23-2006, 02:49 PM
"TARKenton" wrote:


What are the odds of a team having the best run attack and the best attack against the run???
Way to go Childress and Tomlin.
Keep it going all season long Vikings!!


The 2000 Ravens may have done that in their Super Bowl season...maybe the
1986 Bears as well.

tcvike
10-23-2006, 03:08 PM
Taylor has the moves and as our O-line continues to gell his numbers should only get better.
The way Hutchinson stayed with his block to open that hole is why we paid him the big bucks.

Zeus
10-23-2006, 03:23 PM
"Del" wrote:


I stated all off season this guy would not see 1000 yards rushing and he is proving me wrong every game. I love it!


Since you barely need over 60 YPG to get to 1000 for a season, it's not all that impressive.

=Z=

Prophet
10-23-2006, 03:24 PM
"AWZeus" wrote:


"Del" wrote:


I stated all off season this guy would not see 1000 yards rushing and he is proving me wrong every game. I love it!


Since you barely need over 60 YPG to get to 1000 for a season, it's not all that impressive.

=Z=


Considering you were coughing up lung cookies after walking 37 yds to the concession stand, it is a big feat.

TARKenton
10-23-2006, 03:30 PM
"AWZeus" wrote:


"Del" wrote:


I stated all off season this guy would not see 1000 yards rushing and he is proving me wrong every game. I love it!


Since you barely need over 60 YPG to get to 1000 for a season, it's not all that impressive.

=Z=


It is when the Vikings have failed to produce a 1000 yard rusher since 2002 (cant remember exactly the last time).
Chester is on pace for 1600 yards this year, that IS impressive.

WBLVikeBabe
10-23-2006, 04:53 PM
I haven't been quite sure about Taylor from the start, been kinda hard on him but he's proven me wrong.
I'm glad to see that we actually have an RB now who can pick up some big yards.

farvathevikinglover
10-23-2006, 05:46 PM
he leads the league in rushing because he's frickin' AWESOME!!! (and so is the line)

CCthebest
10-23-2006, 05:52 PM
Always liked Taylor (great sogning by Childress) but had no faith in the Oline. Really glad to see the Oline clicking.

verovike
10-23-2006, 06:06 PM
I don't know how many rushing attempts he has, but he must be pretty close to the top in that category as well.
I like the fact that he hits the hole with some pop, and can still out run a db when he gets behind them...his speed really shocked me Sunday.
I don't want to bring the jinx, but a healthy season, and the way this line is coming together, I see Taylor breaking the 2000 yard mark this season.
Childress will certainly give him enough attempts to get there.

vv

midgensa
10-23-2006, 06:30 PM
"cajunvike" wrote:


At least until the game tonight...Tiki will probably pass him...BUT I don't think that the Giants have had a bye week yet...SO once every RB has had a bye week, Chester will still be right up in there!

http://www.nfl.com/stats


He has had his bye, BUT ... if he is held to 56 yards or less and Julius Jones is held to 95 yards or less Taylor becomes the leading RUSHER PER GAME IN THE LEAGUE! which puts him on pace for about 1,570 yards for the season!

TheAnimal93
10-23-2006, 09:29 PM
Well as I see it, it's not only the yards that count, the attempts are very important as well. Most RB's hit their stride and get stronger as the game goes along. As well as the Oline gains more confidence and smells blood when the RB breaks off yardage in big chunks.

ItalianStallion
10-23-2006, 09:42 PM
"AWZeus" wrote:


"Del" wrote:


I stated all off season this guy would not see 1000 yards rushing and he is proving me wrong every game. I love it!


Since you barely need over 60 YPG to get to 1000 for a season, it's not all that impressive.

=Z=


Getting 1000 yards in a season is more of atestament to durability and consistency then it is yardage.
It's very hard to get 1000 yards if you miss games or only play well half the time.

i_bleed_purple
10-23-2006, 09:57 PM
well he's no longer #1, but i'll take #2.
if he had more opportunities in certain games, he very well could be #1, and had the O line gelled a little bit earlier, he could have even had over 700 yards.
my favourite stat on that page, is the longest run by edgerrin james.
check it out.

Ltrey33
10-23-2006, 10:12 PM
"ItalianStallion" wrote:


"AWZeus" wrote:


"Del" wrote:


I stated all off season this guy would not see 1000 yards rushing and he is proving me wrong every game. I love it!


Since you barely need over 60 YPG to get to 1000 for a season, it's not all that impressive.

=Z=


Getting 1000 yards in a season is more of atestament to durability and consistency then it is yardage.
It's very hard to get 1000 yards if you miss games or only play well half the time.


1,000 yards certainly isn't as impressive as it was 20 or 30 years ago, but it is still nothing to sneeze at. I think 1400 or 1500 yards should be the barometer of a superstar today like the 1,000 yards used to be, but a 1,000 yard rusher is still impressive, IMO.

Potus2028
10-23-2006, 10:25 PM
he'll get there.. the amazing thing is that it's a new coach, a new system, a new o-line, a new RB.. and he's second in the league in rushing!!!

also, note how he always pushes for an extra 2-3 yards per carry by FALLING FORWARD

and his running opens up the passing game.. or even the trick passing play (cough cough memo to wiggy)

digital420
10-24-2006, 04:44 AM
i still see him as #1, not sure if they added last nites game yet.

but here's something funny

Rank Player





Team Yds
Att
Avg
TDs Long
1


Chester Taylor
MIN
590
137
4.3
2

95
20

Edgerrin James
ARI
432
161
2.7
2

14


for every1 that bagged the front office for taking Taylor when we coulda bid for James and prolly not gotten Hutch.

DiGiTaL

digital420
10-24-2006, 04:48 AM
i see now that Barber got 114 yards last nite.. so yeah C.t is #2..

that will change when we face the Giants!!

can't wait to see their # 1 rusher against our #1 rushing D!!!


DiGiTaL

singersp
10-24-2006, 05:40 AM
"digital420" wrote:


i see now that Barber got 114 yards last nite.. so yeah C.t is #2..

that will change when we face the Giants!!

can't wait to see their # 1 rusher against our #1 rushing D!!!


DiGiTaL




??? We don't play the Giants this year.

singersp
10-24-2006, 05:49 AM
"i_bleed_purple" wrote:


well he's no longer #1, but i'll take #2.
if he had more opportunities in certain games, he very well could be #1, and had the O line gelled a little bit earlier, he could have even had over 700 yards.
my favourite stat on that page, is the longest run by edgerrin james.
check it out.


That's in total yards. If you go by his average of 4.3 yards per carry, it puts him way down the list.

But take away that 95 yarder & he's still on pace to have a 1,300 yard season.

singersp
10-24-2006, 06:41 AM
Taylor's run draws comparisons to Bo, Priest (http://www.realfootball365.com/nfl/articles/2006/10/vikings-taylor-run241006.html)

Mr-holland
10-24-2006, 06:49 AM
i saw the 95 YARD RUN on cnn.
damn that's hot

Prophet
10-24-2006, 07:06 AM
Unfortunately, we have to trade Chester Taylor now.
He is a star, and there are no stars allowed on this team.

cogitans
10-24-2006, 07:30 AM
I hope this draws a lot more attention towards Chester from defenses in the future.

It could help our passing game. If they start putting more people in the box against us, I guarentee that Brad will start picking some holes in the deep coverage.

twiztedfait
10-24-2006, 07:30 AM
"Acumen" wrote:


Unfortunately, we have to trade Chester Taylor now.
He is a star, and there are no stars allowed on this team.

correction

There are no stars with EGO's allowed on this team.

Prophet
10-24-2006, 07:32 AM
"twiztedfait" wrote:


"Acumen" wrote:


Unfortunately, we have to trade Chester Taylor now.
He is a star, and there are no stars allowed on this team.

correction

There are no stars with EGO's allowed on this team.



8), I stand corrected.

mblack76
10-24-2006, 07:35 AM
"singersp" wrote:


Taylor's run draws comparisons to Bo, Priest (http://www.realfootball365.com/nfl/articles/2006/10/vikings-taylor-run241006.html)



Minnesota lined up in the I-Formation with fullback Tony Richardson as the lead blocker. The handoff went to Taylor. He took it, started left and watched Richardson chip linebacker Lofa Tatupu. Then Taylor cut it out left and saw a hole as left guard Steve Hutchinson demolished linebacker Julian Peterson. From there, it was off to the races. Down the sideline for 95 yards and a touchdown -- the longest in franchise history
Simply priceless....

cogitans
10-24-2006, 07:40 AM
"mblack76" wrote:


"singersp" wrote:


Taylor's run draws comparisons to Bo, Priest (http://www.realfootball365.com/nfl/articles/2006/10/vikings-taylor-run241006.html)



Minnesota lined up in the I-Formation with fullback Tony Richardson as the lead blocker. The handoff went to Taylor. He took it, started left and watched Richardson chip linebacker Lofa Tatupu. Then Taylor cut it out left and saw a hole as left guard Steve Hutchinson demolished linebacker Julian Peterson. From there, it was off to the races. Down the sideline for 95 yards and a touchdown -- the longest in franchise history
Simply priceless....



I'd say that's pretty acurate. Richardson slowed down Lofa and then followed Chester up the field. Hutch moved Peterson something like 15 yards across the field.

Zeus
10-24-2006, 08:27 AM
"TARKenton" wrote:


"AWZeus" wrote:


"Del" wrote:


I stated all off season this guy would not see 1000 yards rushing and he is proving me wrong every game. I love it!


Since you barely need over 60 YPG to get to 1000 for a season, it's not all that impressive.

=Z=


It is when the Vikings have failed to produce a 1000 yard rusher since 2002 (cant remember exactly the last time).
Chester is on pace for 1600 yards this year, that IS impressive.


That's a question of them staying healthy - not that they were succeeding.
1000 yards in a 16-game season is not that impressive.
It's a nice round number, sure, but 1500 yards is the new benchmark for greatness, IMHO.

2005
Rushing Yards
Rank Player Team Yds Att Avg TDs Long
1 Shaun Alexander SEA 1880 370 5.1 27 88
2 Tiki Barber NYG 1860 357 5.2 9 95
3 Larry Johnson KC 1750 336 5.2 20 49
4 Clinton Portis WAS 1516 352 4.3 11 47
5 Edgerrin James IND 1506 360 4.2 13 33
6 LaDainian Tomlinson SD 1462 339 4.3 18 62
7 Rudi Johnson CIN 1458 337 4.3 12 33
8 Warrick Dunn ATL 1416 280 5.1 3 65
9 Thomas Jones CHI 1335 314 4.3 9 42
10 Willis McGahee BUF 1247 325 3.8 5 27
11 Reuben Droughns CLE 1232 309 4.0 2 75
12 Willie Parker PIT 1202 255 4.7 4 80
13 Cadillac Williams TB 1178 290 4.1 6 71
14 Steven Jackson STL 1046 254 4.1 8 51
15 LaMont Jordan OAK 1025 272 3.8 9 26
16 Mike Anderson DEN 1014 239 4.2 12 44

SIXTEEN guys hit 1000 last year.
Half the teams in the NFL!!


=Z=

Zeus
10-24-2006, 08:29 AM
"verovike" wrote:


I don't know how many rushing attempts he has, but he must be pretty close to the top in that category as well.
I like the fact that he hits the hole with some pop, and can still out run a db when he gets behind them...his speed really shocked me Sunday.
I don't want to bring the jinx, but a healthy season, and the way this line is coming together, I see Taylor breaking the 2000 yard mark this season.
Childress will certainly give him enough attempts to get there.

vv


2000 yards?
A little early for that kind of talk.

Here's the current top10 in rushing (Chester is actually #2).

NFL Rushing Yards
Rank Player Team Yds Att Avg TDs Long
1 Tiki Barber NYG 647 129 5.0 0 29
2 Chester Taylor MIN 590 137 4.3 2 95
3 Tatum Bell DEN 585 124 4.7 2 39
4 Warrick Dunn ATL 580 122 4.8 2 90
5 Willis McGahee BUF 564 150 3.8 1 32
6 Julius Jones DAL 524 121 4.3 2 33
7 Steven Jackson STL 521 133 3.9 2 37
8 Frank Gore SF 520 112 4.6 3 32
9 Rudi Johnson CIN 506 130 3.9 4 22
10 DeShaun Foster CAR 490 128 3.8 1 43

Willis McGahee leads the lead in attempts with 150.
Chester is 2nd with 137.

=Z=

Del Rio
10-24-2006, 08:31 AM
"AWZeus" wrote:


"TARKenton" wrote:


"AWZeus" wrote:


"Del" wrote:


I stated all off season this guy would not see 1000 yards rushing and he is proving me wrong every game. I love it!


Since you barely need over 60 YPG to get to 1000 for a season, it's not all that impressive.

=Z=


It is when the Vikings have failed to produce a 1000 yard rusher since 2002 (cant remember exactly the last time).
Chester is on pace for 1600 yards this year, that IS impressive.


That's a question of them staying healthy - not that they were succeeding.
1000 yards in a 16-game season is not that impressive.
It's a nice round number, sure, but 1500 yards is the new benchmark for greatness, IMHO.

2005
Rushing Yards
Rank Player Team Yds Att Avg TDs Long
1 Shaun Alexander SEA 1880 370 5.1 27 88
2 Tiki Barber NYG 1860 357 5.2 9 95
3 Larry Johnson KC 1750 336 5.2 20 49
4 Clinton Portis WAS 1516 352 4.3 11 47
5 Edgerrin James IND 1506 360 4.2 13 33
6 LaDainian Tomlinson SD 1462 339 4.3 18 62
7 Rudi Johnson CIN 1458 337 4.3 12 33
8 Warrick Dunn ATL 1416 280 5.1 3 65
9 Thomas Jones CHI 1335 314 4.3 9 42
10 Willis McGahee BUF 1247 325 3.8 5 27
11 Reuben Droughns CLE 1232 309 4.0 2 75
12 Willie Parker PIT 1202 255 4.7 4 80
13 Cadillac Williams TB 1178 290 4.1 6 71
14 Steven Jackson STL 1046 254 4.1 8 51
15 LaMont Jordan OAK 1025 272 3.8 9 26
16 Mike Anderson DEN 1014 239 4.2 12 44

SIXTEEN guys hit 1000 last year.
Half the teams in the NFL!!



=Z=


1000 yards is still impressive IMO.

And the reason I said he wouldn't do it wasn't because I figured it was hard, it was because I was under the impression Childress would be using a WCO and really utilizing his TE's well his TE's are nothing more then linemen and he is running the ball at all costs.

mr.woo
10-24-2006, 08:43 AM
to get 1000 yards you only need to get 62.5 yards a game. thats not very much. it seems to me that if you dont get it you are grossly underproducing.

Del Rio
10-24-2006, 08:45 AM
To get 1500 yards in a season your pretty much wanting your RB to be able to get 5 yards per carry, that is above and beyond imo. No team would cry about having 1000 yard rusher. Even in todays game.

Zeus
10-24-2006, 08:56 AM
"Del" wrote:


To get 1500 yards in a season your pretty much wanting your RB to be able to get 5 yards per carry, that is above and beyond imo. No team would cry about having 1000 yard rusher. Even in todays game.


Let's look closer:

1000 yards / 16 games = 62.5 yards/game
62.5 yards / 20 carries = 3.125 yards/carry
62.5 yards / 25 carries = 2.5 yards/carry

1500 yards / 16 games = 93.75 yards/game
93.75 / 20 carries = 4.69 yards/carry
93.75 / 25 carries = 3.75 yards/carry

Anyway you cut it, 1000 yards is a pedestrian standard.

=Z=

Prophet
10-24-2006, 09:13 AM
A quick glance at a few past rushing gods:

Jamal Lewis:

2003: 2066 yds rushing, 5.3 ave. in 16 games
2004: 1006 yds rushing, 4.3 ave. in 12 games

LaDainian Tomlinson:

2001: 1236 yds rushing, 3.6 ave. in 16 games
2002: 1683 yds rushing, 4.5 ave. in 16 games
2003: 1645 yds rushing, 5.3 ave. in 16 games
2004: 1335 yds rushing, 3.9 ave. in 15 games
2005: 1462 yds rushing, 4.3 ave. in 16 games

Priest Holmes:

2001: 1555 yds rushing, 4.8 ave in 16 games
2002: 1615 yds rushing, 5.2 ave. in 14 games
2003: 1420 yds rushing, 4.4 ave. in 16 games

Marshal Faulk:

1997: 1054 yds rushing, 4.0 ave. in 16 games
1998: 1319 yds rushing, 4.1 ave. in 16 games
1999: 1381 yds rushing, 5.5 ave. in 16 games
2000: 1359 yds rushing, 5.4 ave. in 14 games
2001: 1382 yds rushing, 5.3 ave. in 14 games

Like someone else said, it's a measure of endurance.
I only included the >1000 yd years.
This also doesn't include the whole package, their receiving yards.
Tomlinson, Holmes, Faulk, and Lewis picked up a bunch of yds receiving those years too.

If a back gets >1000 yds in today's game they are doing well, especially if you factor in their receiving yards and their endurance.
The RB stars above had their best years when they weren't sitting on the bench.
Big surprise.

Mr Anderson
10-24-2006, 09:20 AM
"Acumen" wrote:


A quick glance at a few past rushing gods:

Jamal Lewis:

2003: 2066 yds rushing, 5.3 ave. in 16 games
2004: 1006 yds rushing, 4.3 ave. in 12 games

LaDainian Tomlinson:

2001: 1236 yds rushing, 3.6 ave. in 16 games
2002: 1683 yds rushing, 4.5 ave. in 16 games
2003: 1645 yds rushing, 5.3 ave. in 16 games
2004: 1335 yds rushing, 3.9 ave. in 15 games
2005: 1462 yds rushing, 4.3 ave. in 16 games

Priest Holmes:

2001: 1555 yds rushing, 4.8 ave in 16 games
2002: 1615 yds rushing, 5.2 ave. in 14 games
2003: 1420 yds rushing, 4.4 ave. in 16 games

Marshal Faulk:

1997: 1054 yds rushing, 4.0 ave. in 16 games
1998: 1319 yds rushing, 4.1 ave. in 16 games
1999: 1381 yds rushing, 5.5 ave. in 16 games
2000: 1359 yds rushing, 5.4 ave. in 14 games
2001: 1382 yds rushing, 5.3 ave. in 14 games

Like someone else said, it's a measure of endurance.
I only included the >1000 yd years.
This also doesn't include the whole package, their receiving yards.
Tomlinson, Holmes, Faulk, and Lewis picked up a bunch of yds receiving those years too.

If a back gets >1000 yds in today's game they are doing well, especially if you factor in their receiving yards and their endurance.
The RB stars above had their best years when they weren't sitting on the bench.
Big surprise.


Actually Jamal Lewis only had about 200 yards receiving in his big year.

But the other guys you're right about, Faulk even had a 1000/1000 year in 99, unbelievable....HOF for sure.

sleepagent
10-24-2006, 09:20 AM
"AWZeus" wrote:


"Del" wrote:


To get 1500 yards in a season your pretty much wanting your RB to be able to get 5 yards per carry, that is above and beyond imo. No team would cry about having 1000 yard rusher. Even in todays game.


Let's look closer:

1000 yards / 16 games = 62.5 yards/game
62.5 yards / 20 carries = 3.125 yards/carry
62.5 yards / 25 carries = 2.5 yards/carry

1500 yards / 16 games = 93.75 yards/game
93.75 / 20 carries = 4.69 yards/carry
93.75 / 25 carries = 3.75 yards/carry

Anyway you cut it, 1000 yards is a pedestrian standard.

=Z=


Agreed.

The 1,000 yard mark was more impressive when there was 12 games in a season.

The new benchmark needs to change to 1,250 . . . or 1,500

cajunvike
10-24-2006, 09:22 AM
"AWZeus" wrote:


"verovike" wrote:


I don't know how many rushing attempts he has, but he must be pretty close to the top in that category as well.
I like the fact that he hits the hole with some pop, and can still out run a db when he gets behind them...his speed really shocked me Sunday.
I don't want to bring the jinx, but a healthy season, and the way this line is coming together, I see Taylor breaking the 2000 yard mark this season.
Childress will certainly give him enough attempts to get there.

vv


2000 yards?
A little early for that kind of talk.

Here's the current top10 in rushing (Chester is actually #2).

NFL Rushing Yards
Rank Player Team Yds Att Avg TDs Long
1 Tiki Barber NYG 647 129 5.0 0 29
2 Chester Taylor MIN 590 137 4.3 2 95
3 Tatum Bell DEN 585 124 4.7 2 39
4 Warrick Dunn ATL 580 122 4.8 2 90
5 Willis McGahee BUF 564 150 3.8 1 32
6 Julius Jones DAL 524 121 4.3 2 33
7 Steven Jackson STL 521 133 3.9 2 37
8 Frank Gore SF 520 112 4.6 3 32
9 Rudi Johnson CIN 506 130 3.9 4 22
10 DeShaun Foster CAR 490 128 3.8 1 43

Willis McGahee leads the lead in attempts with 150.
Chester is 2nd with 137.

=Z=


YEAH...but our rush defense is now #1!!!
Thanks Tiki!!!
:)

Prophet
10-24-2006, 09:30 AM
"Mr" wrote:

...Actually Jamal Lewis only had about 200 yards receiving in his big year...

Wow, that is an amazing stat.
Talk about grinding it out, Boller/Wright/Redman couldn't get it done in the air that year.

Prophet
10-24-2006, 09:33 AM
"sleepagent" wrote:


"AWZeus" wrote:


"Del" wrote:


To get 1500 yards in a season your pretty much wanting your RB to be able to get 5 yards per carry, that is above and beyond imo. No team would cry about having 1000 yard rusher. Even in todays game.


Let's look closer:

1000 yards / 16 games = 62.5 yards/game
62.5 yards / 20 carries = 3.125 yards/carry
62.5 yards / 25 carries = 2.5 yards/carry

1500 yards / 16 games = 93.75 yards/game
93.75 / 20 carries = 4.69 yards/carry
93.75 / 25 carries = 3.75 yards/carry

Anyway you cut it, 1000 yards is a pedestrian standard.

=Z=


Agreed.

The 1,000 yard mark was more impressive when there was 12 games in a season.

The new benchmark needs to change to 1,250 . . . or 1,500


There were 14 games in the season, not 12.
An RB with >1000 yds rushing with a complementary receiving package is doing well.

Del Rio
10-24-2006, 09:42 AM
In 05' there were only 16 Running backs with over 1000 yards rushing. If it is standard then that leaves one hell of a grading curve.

If you have a RB with 1000 yards then your doing fine.

whackthepack
10-24-2006, 03:16 PM
I think you guys are splitting hares, and they are mad because the damn rabbits don't want to be split.

Seriously if a back has over a 1,000 yards he had a good year, but to have a great year a back needs to be over 1,400 yards which is not even a 90 yard average for 16 games.

OJ Simpson ran for over 2,000 yards in a 14 game season which is an average of over 142 yards a game, so asking someone to be over 90 yards to consider them great isn't that much.

Del Rio
10-24-2006, 03:18 PM
I wasn't even talking about being great, I simply said I did not think Taylor would break 1000 yards rushing this season.

Someone said in a nutshell why not, it is easy to do.

Not true imo.

Zeus
10-24-2006, 03:39 PM
"Del" wrote:


I wasn't even talking about being great, I simply said I did not think Taylor would break 1000 yards rushing this season.

Someone said in a nutshell why not, it is easy to do.

Not true imo.


"Easy" in terms of what you and I do in our lives, hell no!

"Easy" in terms of what a #1 RB in the NFL should do, hell yes!

1000 yards / 16 games = 62.5 yards/game
62.5 yards / 20 carries = 3.125 yards/carry

Barely more than 3 yards per carry, man!
Top NFL RBs should get 3 YPC by getting a handoff and running straight forward.

=Z=

Del Rio
10-24-2006, 09:21 PM
"AWZeus" wrote:


"Del" wrote:


I wasn't even talking about being great, I simply said I did not think Taylor would break 1000 yards rushing this season.

Someone said in a nutshell why not, it is easy to do.

Not true imo.


"Easy" in terms of what you and I do in our lives, hell no!

"Easy" in terms of what a #1 RB in the NFL should do, hell yes!

1000 yards / 16 games = 62.5 yards/game
62.5 yards / 20 carries = 3.125 yards/carry

Barely more than 3 yards per carry, man!
Top NFL RBs should get 3 YPC by getting a handoff and running straight forward.

=Z=


And yet only half the RB's in the NFL get 1000 yards rushing. 16 out of 32 in 2005.

thevikingfan
10-24-2006, 09:30 PM
"verovike" wrote:


I don't know how many rushing attempts he has, but he must be pretty close to the top in that category as well.
I like the fact that he hits the hole with some pop, and can still out run a db when he gets behind them...his speed really shocked me Sunday.
I don't want to bring the jinx, but a healthy season, and the way this line is coming together, I see Taylor breaking the 2000 yard mark this season.
Childress will certainly give him enough attempts to get there.

vv

:o :o :o
Hes on pace for 1600 yards but i guess if he explodes against all the teams with loosing records (ich is alot) then i suppose he can but it is far fetched.

thevikingfan
10-24-2006, 09:42 PM
"AWZeus" wrote:


"verovike" wrote:


I don't know how many rushing attempts he has, but he must be pretty close to the top in that category as well.
I like the fact that he hits the hole with some pop, and can still out run a db when he gets behind them...his speed really shocked me Sunday.
I don't want to bring the jinx, but a healthy season, and the way this line is coming together, I see Taylor breaking the 2000 yard mark this season.
Childress will certainly give him enough attempts to get there.

vv


2000 yards?
A little early for that kind of talk.

Here's the current top10 in rushing (Chester is actually #2).

NFL Rushing Yards
Rank Player Team Yds Att Avg TDs Long
1 Tiki Barber NYG 647 129 5.0 0 29
2 Chester Taylor MIN 590 137 4.3 2 95
3 Tatum Bell DEN 585 124 4.7 2 39
4 Warrick Dunn ATL 580 122 4.8 2 90
5 Willis McGahee BUF 564 150 3.8 1 32
6 Julius Jones DAL 524 121 4.3 2 33
7 Steven Jackson STL 521 133 3.9 2 37
8 Frank Gore SF 520 112 4.6 3 32
9 Rudi Johnson CIN 506 130 3.9 4 22
10 DeShaun Foster CAR 490 128 3.8 1 43

Willis McGahee leads the lead in attempts with 150.
Chester is 2nd with 137.

=Z=


actually chester is thrid in carried behind macgahee and edge who has 161 carries but is averaging only 2.7 yards a carry

V-Unit
10-24-2006, 10:06 PM
"Del" wrote:


"AWZeus" wrote:


"Del" wrote:


I wasn't even talking about being great, I simply said I did not think Taylor would break 1000 yards rushing this season.

Someone said in a nutshell why not, it is easy to do.

Not true imo.


"Easy" in terms of what you and I do in our lives, hell no!

"Easy" in terms of what a #1 RB in the NFL should do, hell yes!

1000 yards / 16 games = 62.5 yards/game
62.5 yards / 20 carries = 3.125 yards/carry

Barely more than 3 yards per carry, man!
Top NFL RBs should get 3 YPC by getting a handoff and running straight forward.

=Z=


And yet only half the RB's in the NFL get 1000 yards rushing. 16 out of 32 in 2005.


24 players are on pace to get 1000 yards this season, including Travis Henry, Ahman Green, Michael Vick, Kevin Jones, Cadillac Williams, and Lamont Jordan.

1. Too early to tell.
2. RB by committee hurts good backs, but some would say an RB in a committee isn't good/durable enough to carry the load himself.
3. Some RBs are on pace to get 1000 even though their teams aaren't that committed/good on the run: Green, Westbrook, Jordan.

i_bleed_purple
10-24-2006, 10:44 PM
i remember reading something about this in a pro football weekly magazine, and they were interviewing players about what htey think the benchmark for rushing should be, and they agreed that 1000 is too easilly attainable, and the benchmark should be 1300+ yards

V4L
10-24-2006, 10:59 PM
Well I agree with Del..

1000 is alot harder then people think.. Expecially since we thought we'd run the WCO.. And wouldn't get many rush yards like the typical WCO






One Love

verovike
10-24-2006, 11:16 PM
Yes, it's way too early to be talking about 2000 yards.
I suppose I should resend that comment, but with the improvement I've seen in this O line since game 1, and the durability that Taylor seems to be showing, he is bound to be near a franchise record in rushing yards this season. Coach Brad will give him plenty of carries to get there.
vv

snowinapril
10-24-2006, 11:28 PM
I was very optimistic about CT when we picked him up.
I was a bit worried about our line at the beginning of the season but this last game has eased my mind.
With the line, I was sticking with the "they will gel" attitude.
The fact that we had less penalties sure helped with the appearance of "the gel."

Back to CT, he is a work horse.
He has shown that he gets better as the game goes on.
I liked Chester in Baltimore, I liked Chester before I saw him play, and I still like him now.
Solid!

singersp
10-25-2006, 06:49 AM
If he keeps this up ... (http://www.startribune.com/510/story/764408.html)

Last update: October 24, 2006 – 9:27 PM

singersp
10-25-2006, 06:50 AM
Vikings: Taylor grows accustomed to wear, tear as lead back (http://www.startribune.com/510/story/764421.html)

After preseason concerns about if the free agent could handle a heavy work load, now the worry is if he is overworked.

Judd Zulgad, Star Tribune

Last update: October 24, 2006 – 9:23 PM

Del Rio
10-25-2006, 06:52 AM
"V-Unit" wrote:


"Del" wrote:


"AWZeus" wrote:


"Del" wrote:


I wasn't even talking about being great, I simply said I did not think Taylor would break 1000 yards rushing this season.

Someone said in a nutshell why not, it is easy to do.

Not true imo.


"Easy" in terms of what you and I do in our lives, hell no!

"Easy" in terms of what a #1 RB in the NFL should do, hell yes!

1000 yards / 16 games = 62.5 yards/game
62.5 yards / 20 carries = 3.125 yards/carry

Barely more than 3 yards per carry, man!
Top NFL RBs should get 3 YPC by getting a handoff and running straight forward.

=Z=


And yet only half the RB's in the NFL get 1000 yards rushing. 16 out of 32 in 2005.


24 players are on pace to get 1000 yards this season, including Travis Henry, Ahman Green, Michael Vick, Kevin Jones, Cadillac Williams, and Lamont Jordan.

1. Too early to tell.
2. RB by committee hurts good backs, but some would say an RB in a committee isn't good/durable enough to carry the load himself.
3. Some RBs are on pace to get 1000 even though their teams aaren't that committed/good on the run: Green, Westbrook, Jordan.



Running back by comitte is a good point. I do not agree that a team can rack up 1000 yard rusher and not be committed/good at the run, if you have 1000 yard rusher you are good at the run.

mr.woo
10-25-2006, 07:48 AM
"Del" wrote:


"V-Unit" wrote:


"Del" wrote:


"AWZeus" wrote:


"Del" wrote:


I wasn't even talking about being great, I simply said I did not think Taylor would break 1000 yards rushing this season.

Someone said in a nutshell why not, it is easy to do.

Not true imo.


"Easy" in terms of what you and I do in our lives, hell no!

"Easy" in terms of what a #1 RB in the NFL should do, hell yes!

1000 yards / 16 games = 62.5 yards/game
62.5 yards / 20 carries = 3.125 yards/carry

Barely more than 3 yards per carry, man!
Top NFL RBs should get 3 YPC by getting a handoff and running straight forward.

=Z=


And yet only half the RB's in the NFL get 1000 yards rushing. 16 out of 32 in 2005.


24 players are on pace to get 1000 yards this season, including Travis Henry, Ahman Green, Michael Vick, Kevin Jones, Cadillac Williams, and Lamont Jordan.

1. Too early to tell.
2. RB by committee hurts good backs, but some would say an RB in a committee isn't good/durable enough to carry the load himself.
3. Some RBs are on pace to get 1000 even though their teams aaren't that committed/good on the run: Green, Westbrook, Jordan.



Running back by comitte is a good point. I do not agree that a team can rack up 1000 yard rusher and not be committed/good at the run, if you have 1000 yard rusher you are good at the run.


if you have a 1000 yard rusher you could still be dead last in the league in rushing yards. it only takes 62.5 yards a week to get 1000 yars.

Zeus
10-25-2006, 07:51 AM
"Del" wrote:


"AWZeus" wrote:


"Del" wrote:


I wasn't even talking about being great, I simply said I did not think Taylor would break 1000 yards rushing this season.

Someone said in a nutshell why not, it is easy to do.

Not true imo.


"Easy" in terms of what you and I do in our lives, hell no!

"Easy" in terms of what a #1 RB in the NFL should do, hell yes!

1000 yards / 16 games = 62.5 yards/game
62.5 yards / 20 carries = 3.125 yards/carry

Barely more than 3 yards per carry, man!
Top NFL RBs should get 3 YPC by getting a handoff and running straight forward.

=Z=


And yet only half the RB's in the NFL get 1000 yards rushing. 16 out of 32 in 2005.


Durability and play-calling, I'm sure, hamstring a lot of them.
I would like to point out, however, that the truly great ones (Payton, Smith, Sanders) find a way to stay healthy and keep producing the big numbers.

=Z=

VKG4LFE
10-25-2006, 06:43 PM
"cajunvike" wrote:


At least until the game tonight...Tiki will probably pass him...BUT I don't think that the Giants have had a bye week yet...SO once every RB has had a bye week, Chester will still be right up in there!

http://www.nfl.com/stats


Yeah, 95 yard runs really help the cause!

Potus2028
10-25-2006, 07:06 PM
Against Seattle, Taylor averaged a season-high 6.5 yards on the ground. But subtract the long touchdown run and he averaged 3.0 yards on 25 carries, gaining more than 10 yards on only one occasion. During the first quarter, he gained 7 yards, lost a yard, then gained 1, 4, 3 and 1 yard on subsequent carries that featured plenty of hard hits.

yea.. take away the 95 yarder, and he's just above average.

we need to get him some more holes.. the 95 yard run was good, but we need to increase our committence to the run IMO

Potus2028
10-25-2006, 07:26 PM
yea.. i'm not going to lie..

that made absolutley no sense mr woo..

having a 1000yrd rusher and be dead last in the league in rushing.. 1000yrd rushing with any team means the rushing attach is decent.. because one half back doesnt take all the carries.. so one halfback doesnt account for all of a teams rushing yard..

what i'm saying, is 1000 implies a decent rushing attack

Del Rio
10-25-2006, 07:29 PM
"Potus2028" wrote:


yea.. i'm not going to lie..

that made absolutley no sense mr woo..

having a 1000yrd rusher and be dead last in the league in rushing.. 1000yrd rushing with any team means the rushing attach is decent.. because one half back doesnt take all the carries.. so one halfback doesnt account for all of a teams rushing yard..

what i'm saying, is 1000 implies a decent rushing attack


The raiders fit into that category in 05 but the logic is not right. You have teams like Atlanta inflating the rankings. The yards are not coming from your hb alone.

I am going to go out on a limb and say you cannot be dead last in rushing and have a 1000+ yard rusher

Potus2028
10-25-2006, 07:34 PM
i will agree.

you mean the falcons inflating by having michael vick.. cause i think that would deflate the rushing stats, at least of warrick dunn.. if i was dunn.. i wouldnt want to be on that team

V-Unit
10-25-2006, 08:29 PM
"Potus2028" wrote:


i will agree.

you mean the falcons inflating by having michael vick.. cause i think that would deflate the rushing stats, at least of warrick dunn.. if i was dunn.. i wouldnt want to be on that team


???????
Dunn has 122 carries in 6 games, which is 20.3 attempts per game. Are you saying he should be upset that he doesn't get the ball enough?

I hope not. 20 carries per game is a LOT for a small scatback like Dunn. If we gave Moore that many carries he would break down by week 4.

VKG4LFE
10-25-2006, 08:32 PM
I think having Vick only helps Dunn, he's gotta be lovin' his situation!

i_bleed_purple
10-25-2006, 08:47 PM
warrick dunn is 4th in the league with 580 yards,
thats nothing to complain about.
i'd say its safe to say michael vick doesn't take away too much from dunn's production

Del Rio
10-26-2006, 06:34 AM
My comment had nothing to do with Dunn at all. The comment made was you can have a 1000 yard rusher and be last in the NFL in rushing as a team.

Besides not being true it is apples and oranges.

A team like the Falcons inflate the statistics by having more guys who can run the ball.

singersp
10-27-2006, 06:06 AM
Taylor running at record pace (http://www.twincities.com/mld/twincities/sports/football/15859287.htm)

Posted on Fri, Oct. 27, 2006

Vikings back has chance to lead NFL in rushing, break more than a few team marks

BY DON SEEHOLZER
Pioneer Press

Prophet
10-27-2006, 11:55 AM
Taylor honored (http://www.startribune.com/blogs/vikings/?p=229)
Friday, October 27th, 2006

Running back Chester Taylor has been selected as the FeEx Ground NFL Player of the Week (the NFL has far too many of these awards) by NFL.com voters for his career-high 169-yard rushing performance in the Vikings’ 31-13 victory last Sunday at Seattle. Taylor gained 95 of those yards on a touchdown run that established a franchise mark. He is second in the NFL with 590 rushing yards this season.

Mr. Purple
10-27-2006, 12:36 PM
Nice he deserved to win that.Chester has quickly turned me into a beleiver.While alot of RB's could put up 1,000 behind this line.I think Chester shows ALOT of heart out on the field.He grinds for every inch and dosnt shy away.Hes a alot like Tiki Barber and thats a great thing.I think we're lookin at the face of the offense for years to come!

Bheadgood
10-27-2006, 12:37 PM
I would like to see him get the ball more near the stripe. I think TD's will help his cause for his first pro bowl. ;)