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singersp
10-05-2006, 06:51 AM
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The Vikings haven't scored 20 points or more in a game this season, but history is in their favor this weekend against the Lions. The Vikings have beaten the Lions in 14 of their past 16 meetings, scoring more than 20 each time:

2005: Vikings win 27-14 and 21-16

2004: Vikings win 22-19 and 28-27

2003: Vikings win 23-13 and 24-14

2002: Vikings win 31-24 and 38-36

2001: Vikings win 31-26, lose 27-24

2000: Vikings win 31-24 and 24-17

1999: Vikings lose 25-23, win 24-17

1998: Vikings win 29-6 and 34-13

cajunvike
10-05-2006, 09:07 AM
Against that sieve of a Lions defense, we'd BETTER!!!!

davike
10-05-2006, 09:13 AM
we should....against the lions D, it shouldn't be that hard, if we don't then we are going to need to make some serious moves on offense.

NeumDog
10-05-2006, 10:45 AM
I doubt that we will score that many.
It means scoring more than one touchdown.
That's asking a lot of this offense.

Jviking
10-05-2006, 10:48 AM
I sure hope so. But we cant seem to score unless its the opening drive.
I suppose we could hit 7 field goals.

snowinapril
10-05-2006, 12:05 PM
You know, I was watching the NFLN and saw DC on there.
He was defending himself again, this time in Mia, for a lack of Offense.
The guys (Rod, Adam and Rich) are starting to get on him for holding the ball too long.
This time he has the excuse of no being able to be mobile, same talk different city.

Then Baldinger did a little segment on TO, and his abilities (plural) to get open.
It was pretty impressive.
I am not going to go into a TO love fest or anything, but these were some thing that were pointed out.
He keeps his feet under him at all times (as we all do) which helps him with Efficient Route and YAC.
He Blocks well.
He starts all of his routes the same way.
He runs route, finds ball, then time run to the ball so the defender can't make a play at the ball.
I am sure you can find a clip of this for every WR that has been in the league as long as he has.
But it was still an impressive set of Video.

Well you are probably thinking, "why are you talking about TO in this thread?"
And that is a fair question.

It is because, I look at our WRs and I am thinking that MRob, TT, and TWill are not TO.
I think they are one dimensional in their own ways.
TT and TWill are quick, but I think the lack the techniques and moves. MRob has one move that works, and that is the Jump Ball.
If you look at guys like Holt, TO, R.Moss, Harrison and Rice (HOF bound), they are all guys that are sizing the DB up and then setting him up.
Even S Moss, in his interview talked about how he came back to attack the game winning catch instead of letting his path lead him into a sure leveling by the Jags FS.
TT and MRob have been in the league long enough to be in that mind set but I just don't see it.
I think all of our WRs are just trying there hardest to catch the ball.
With this being said, I don't think that BJ is confident in any of them to be trusting them to be where they are suppose to be.
He isn't throwing it unless they are open beyond a reasonable doubt or he can put the ball up over top where the D doesn't have a chance.

Now with all that said, I will get back to points.
IF, and I said IF, we are going to score more than 20 points, we are going to have to get some super sloppy play by the DBs of the Lions.
OR, and I did say OR, we will have to get them on the ground with CT breaking of a long one.
BJ and BC are going to take what the Lions D gives us (that is what we know so far).
Another OR is the possibility that we take the reigns off and go BTTW.
I would be really surprised if we tried to light it up and go Balls To The Walls in this game.

Vikings 19 Lions 12 (let's limit the Martz freak show to FGs)

Gameball to Longwell (LOL)

I am hoping that BC has been planning on opening up a can of WhoopAss in the bye week to surprise the Seachickens and get us a road victory in a place that the home team has won the last 13 or so games in a row.
It would nice to see if the car will travel b4 taking off on that long journey by testing our O this week.

whackthepack
10-05-2006, 12:13 PM
Longwell has been out of practice this week because of strep-throat so I hope that he is semi recovered by Sunday or Monday

snowinapril
10-05-2006, 12:21 PM
"whackthepack" wrote:


Longwell has been out of practice this week because of strep-throat so I hope that he is semi recovered by Sunday or Monday


Who are we going to give the game ball to?

Is he going to be out there with a surgical mask on under his facemask.
We don't need any other players getting sick.
Seriously, he is a kicker, he can play with strep, just don't pass that crap to others.

Thanks for the info whack!

BrooksBollingerForQB
10-05-2006, 01:01 PM
Twenty Points can be done, but we have to force turnovers. Last face it last year when Brad had his best games he had a short field. Nearly all his td passes came when we gave him the ball on the opponents side of the 50. Personnally though this offense needs a change. And although it may not be brad johnson's fault on the offenses perfomances, its alot easier to change one player than those around him which is why if our offense continues to play bad, its time to give brooks bollinger a shot. He should know Childress's offense well enough after playing for him in collegeand now the pros.

kramer9guy
10-05-2006, 01:04 PM
Will we score more than 20 points this weekend?

Yes. I think we will score over 20 points Sunday. Not only are the fans getting restless for more offensive production, but I think Childress, BJ and the entire offensive team are also. We've gone up against some pretty stiff defensive minded teams the last four games. I think we are going to see better production this week and have a decisive win under our belts for the bye.

WaywardHoosier
10-05-2006, 01:15 PM
The Lions have serious problems on defense.

The "inspired" Lions played the Rams last week and the inspiration could not stop the Rams in the fourth quarter.

The Vikings will score more than 20.

snowinapril
10-05-2006, 01:19 PM
"kramer9guy" wrote:


Will we score more than 20 points this weekend?

Yes. I think we will score over 20 points Sunday. Not only are the fans getting restless for more offensive production, but I think Childress, BJ and the entire offensive team are also. We've gone up against some pretty stiff defensive minded teams the last four games. I think we are going to see better production this week and have a decisive win under our belts for the bye.



Wouldn't it me much nicer to see our D play with a 10 point lead, instead of a 3 or 6 point lead?

kramer9guy
10-05-2006, 02:35 PM
"snowinapril" wrote:


"kramer9guy" wrote:


Will we score more than 20 points this weekend?

Yes. I think we will score over 20 points Sunday. Not only are the fans getting restless for more offensive production, but I think Childress, BJ and the entire offensive team are also. We've gone up against some pretty stiff defensive minded teams the last four games. I think we are going to see better production this week and have a decisive win under our belts for the bye.



Wouldn't it me much nicer to see our D play with a 10 point lead, instead of a 3 or 6 point lead?


Hell yeah.

If we don't step up our offensive production and somehow lose in another tight one I think there is a chance that we might see some kind of change to our existing offensive philosophy and/or personnel over the bye week because the natives are getting restless. Personally, I say we stay course no matter what the results of the game are (with the exception of a Lions blowout of course). Things will come together as planned, it's just a matter of time.

thevikingfan
10-05-2006, 02:36 PM
We HAVE to detroit has the 30th ranked defense if we cant rack up 20 points then i am ready to give up on this offense.Also look for twill to get his first td of the season

snowinapril
10-05-2006, 02:45 PM
"kramer9guy" wrote:


"snowinapril" wrote:


"kramer9guy" wrote:


Will we score more than 20 points this weekend?

Yes. I think we will score over 20 points Sunday. Not only are the fans getting restless for more offensive production, but I think Childress, BJ and the entire offensive team are also. We've gone up against some pretty stiff defensive minded teams the last four games. I think we are going to see better production this week and have a decisive win under our belts for the bye.



Wouldn't it me much nicer to see our D play with a 10 point lead, instead of a 3 or 6 point lead?


Hell yeah.

If we don't step up our offensive production and somehow lose in another tight one I think there is a chance that we might see some kind of change to our existing offensive philosophy and/or personnel over the bye week because the natives are getting restless. Personally, I say we stay course no matter what the results of the game are (with the exception of a Lions blowout of course). Things will come together as planned, it's just a matter of time.


I don't care how much people are overlooking the Kitties, they have Martz who will try to light it up if he has to.
I wouldn't be surprised if him and all the other teams are saying, were are going to take deep strikes to get 2 tds because they can't catch up. it is like a punt anyways if it is INT'd.

SKOL
10-05-2006, 02:49 PM
I've come to the conclusion that every game we play this year will be tight, win or lose, regardless of whom we're playing.
Our offense is a ball control offense, geared toward 8 minute drives.
No matter who we're playing our possessions will be limited.
If there's a defensive score, or somehow we break a big (scoring) play against their week defense it COULD be a double digit victory.
Otherwise we'll have a lot of field goals.

I don't see us blowing anyone out this year.
I hope I'm wrong.

Del Rio
10-05-2006, 02:53 PM
I'm more worried about holding the Lions to less then 20 then I am scoring 20. They one of the hottest WR's in the game so far this season. Kitna has gone down something like 14 times for sacks, and if our line doesn't make him eat ground all day then I can see some potential for disaster.

WaywardHoosier
10-05-2006, 05:54 PM
The Lions offense did their job last week.
The offense looked good and Kitna was making quality passes. Furrey (an ex-Ram) had his best day as a receiver.


The Rams secondary is a weak spot for their team.
I think the Vikings have a better secondary.

I was impressed with the Lions effort, but the Lion defense was so weak that they gave the Rams a "breakout offensive day".

Prophet
10-05-2006, 06:24 PM
"BrooksBollingerForQB" wrote:


Twenty Points can be done, but we have to force turnovers. Last face it last year when Brad had his best games he had a short field. Nearly all his td passes came when we gave him the ball on the opponents side of the 50. Personnally though this offense needs a change. And although it may not be brad johnson's fault on the offenses perfomances, its alot easier to change one player than those around him which is why if our offense continues to play bad, its time to give brooks bollinger a shot. He should know Childress's offense well enough after playing for him in collegeand now the pros.


Congratulations.
You are the first person I've seen giving the Bolliinger chants since he has joined the Vikings' squad.
We have had a few Tarvaris chants coming out of the woodwork on the site.
Are you a new member or a member that re-registered with the Bollinger name?
Hmmm, who would do that...?
Either way, I just wanted to congratulate you for being the first member of the site to be chanting for Bollinger to replace BJ.

Personally, I'm more worried about this game than any game so far this year.
This is the first time that the Vikings are playing a team that is recognized by most as being a lower tier team.
Chicago and Seattle held them to 7 and 6 pts, respectively.
They racked up some points in their Ls to the Packers and Rams.
All hell will break loose if the Vikings lose this game.
I'm not expecting a loss, but if it does happen there will be all kinds of bowling fans surfacing and spewing their expertise between frames.

Does the offense need to be more productive?
I can't imagine anyone saying no.
Are we enlightening the Vikings' team and coaches by posting this?
Some may think so.
Is Bollinger the answer to the woes?
I would say no.
Keep the crow in the freezer, I don't plan on eating any from saying this.

TRAMBIA
10-05-2006, 06:51 PM
they better play better than they did last week or we will lose for sure. and our secondary give up to many big passes, if our d line doesnt get heavy pressure expect a long day again.

Slade
10-05-2006, 07:49 PM
Yeah & remember, this ain't the Joey Harrington Lions. Kitna can make things happen & Kevin Jones can run. If it becomes a shootout, we're screwed.

singersp
10-05-2006, 09:41 PM
I'm sure by now they have watched film of our games. Look for them to throw Smoots way & move the chains.

They won't have muxch success trying to run through Fat Pat. They'll go around or throw short ones to Jones over the line.

JellyBean2144
10-05-2006, 09:45 PM
We better score more than 20 pts this weekend, it is the Lions for crying out loud!!!

oakmage
10-05-2006, 11:40 PM
Hey I think we will score over 20 no prob dude you can call it money in the bank

thevikingfan
10-06-2006, 01:19 AM
If mike tice can be 8-0 against the lions then brad childress sure as hell can be too!

Chad8970
10-06-2006, 01:52 AM
Heck yea, the Lions suck!! Period.
I think this is just the type of game the Vikings need.
This will be a good chance to get the O back on track.
Chester will be good for over 100, but the wideouts need to catch the damn ball.

snowinapril
10-09-2006, 02:19 PM
The answer is YES!

If only we knew this last week.

SKOL
10-09-2006, 02:23 PM
We just need two defensive scores every week and we're guaranteed 20...., maybe.

snowinapril
10-09-2006, 02:26 PM
"SKOL" wrote:


We just need two defensive scores every week and we're guaranteed 20...., maybe.


We would have PUSHED this question if we would have stopped at one D touchdown and got that PAT.

snowinapril
10-09-2006, 02:43 PM
"snowinapril" wrote:


"SKOL" wrote:


We just need two defensive scores every week and we're guaranteed 20...., maybe.


We would have PUSHED this question if we would have stopped at one D touchdown and got that PAT.


Better do the math.


26
-
6 TD
(D TD)
-
1 PAT (D TD)

19 pts
+
1 Blocked PAT

20

olson_10
10-09-2006, 02:46 PM
its sad that this defense has almost as many TDs as the offense

snowinapril
10-09-2006, 02:53 PM
"olson_10" wrote:


its sad that this defense has almost as many TDs as the offense


Was this what the Bears were saying last year or did they just love it through their Bear colored glasses.

SKOL
10-09-2006, 03:24 PM
Both Leber and EJ had defensive TD's.


I'm confused.

snowinapril
10-09-2006, 03:29 PM
"SKOL" wrote:


Both Leber and EJ had defensive TD's.


I'm confused.


I was just saying that we still need one D touchdown , but we could have gone with out the second.
If you do that and get the PAT that we missed that equals 20, a push on the line of More or Less than 20 points.

cajunvike
10-09-2006, 03:32 PM
Hopefully, the coaching staff can use the bye week to figure out what is wrong...it's either the play calling or the play execution (or lack thereof) that is amiss.
They have two weeks to sort it out...and fix it!!!

marantzo
10-09-2006, 04:48 PM
Sorry I didn't get around to answering this question earlier, but yes we will score more than 20. Maybe as much as 26?

tke0933
10-09-2006, 04:59 PM
"SKOL" wrote:


We just need two defensive scores every week and we're guaranteed 20...., maybe.

You were right in that we needed those two TDs from the D to score more than 20.