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Prophet
09-26-2006, 01:50 PM
I was kind of surprised that there wasn't a thread about this already.
I've seen a few intelligent Bills fans and a few trolls stopping by from Buffalo way so thought I would start a thread.

Records:

Vikings: 2-1 (2nd in NFCN)
Bills: 1-2 (tied for last in AFCE)

Week 1:

Bills 17 Patriots 19

Bills appeared respectable.

Week 2:

Bills 16 Dolphins 6

Bills appeared respectable against the hapless Dolphins.
Daunte throws an INT and has 2 fumbles for the Phins.

Week 3:

Bills 20 Jets 28

Losman tossed fro 328 yds a TD and an INT and McGahee rushed for 150 yds.
They still lost.
That is really laughable.
There is no way they're putting those kind of numbers up on the Vikings D....even if they had divine intervention and did it appears they will still lose

Week 4:

The Bills continue their dive into oblivion.
Any team that can toss for over 300 yds and rush for 150 yds and still lose at home is a team that deserves no respect.


Prediction:

The Vikings own the Bills in every facet of the game.
The final score will not represent the beating they will suffer.
Vikes 20 Bills 10.

Mr-holland
09-26-2006, 01:54 PM
as i recall, the bills are strong against the running game.
still chester will have a Td at least.

Del Rio
09-26-2006, 01:59 PM
Bills have the ability to be explosive. We can't allow that. We need early pressure on Lossman and to do that we need to stop the run.

I expect a big game from Pat Williams and I expect a big game from our offense. Buffalo has some quality DE's and that has been a weakness for our O-line. They are tall and fast so Brad will have to put some sauce on his passes and not lob them out there like a school girl.

I feel the Vikes break 30 this week. You all can fill in the Bills score for me any number from 29 to 0 will work for me.

We don't here much from the Bills so I hope we get some good fans in here to educate us a bit on the Bills. Statistically they look like the Vikings on paper. It could be a high scoring affair of two evenly matched teams.

Prophet
09-26-2006, 02:34 PM
Rushing passing stats against the Bills D after 3 wks:

New England: 183 yds rushing, 163 passing
Miami: 92 yds rushing, 250 passing
Jets: 74 yds rushing, 183 passing

New England racked up a lot of yards on the ground, but barely eeked out a win.
The Bills' D racked up 3 sacks and INT and a FF while their O spread the ball around a lot on the pass and rushed for 99 yds and passed for 164 yds.

The Bills sacked Daunte six times, had an INT and a FF against the Phins.
Fletcher-Baker is an animal in the first two games racking up 17 tackles and 3 assists.

The Bills only had one sack against the Jets.
Their DBs put up consistent numbers.

I like the Bills D and where they're going.
Their O does have some potential too.
The similarity I see in the two teams is that they aren't putting the game away.
The Vikings D appears to be more consistent without as many turnovers and the Vikings O is not sporadic, they consistently underperform.

The more I think about this game the more I'm convinced that the main battle will be between the Vikes O-line and their D-line/LBs.
Maroney and Dillon racked up 86 and 73 yds, respectively, in wk 1 against the Bills.
That's the route I'm banking on for the Vikes.
Chester will have a 100+ yd day.
The vikes need to go the the quick passing, short yardage plays and wear down this D.
Don't give them time to get to BJ.

kansas_man54
09-26-2006, 02:38 PM
one of the main factors in this game will be the amount of pressure on the QB on both sides.
I'm thinkin' our o-line plays like they are capable of doing and our D pressures, sacks, picks off, and hurries losman all day long.
I'm a bit worried about mcgahee having a big game, hopefully not though.
23-13 Vikes.

ultravikingfan
09-26-2006, 02:41 PM
The Bills do have a respectable Defense.
Thats what worries me.
I think if we can control Willis "too bad my knee was blown out in the national championship against THE OSU" McGahee and get pressure on Losman, we will do just fine.

I think after we got sting a little by the Bears, these guys are thirsty.
I could see it in them after the loss.

thevikingfan
09-26-2006, 02:45 PM
the bills were 1rst against the run in 2004 when pat left for us it dropped all the way to 29 (i believe) I think we will be able to run a all over them takeo is a beast and so is flecher nate clements is a quality cb.They have a good rb in mgahee but i dont think they will have a good day running the ball my prediction is 20 carries for 50-60 yards for the bills as for jp 17 of 32 2 picks 170 yards

Zeus
09-26-2006, 02:47 PM
"ultravikingfan" wrote:


The Bills do have a respectable Defense.
Thats what worries me.
I think if we can control Willis "too bad my knee was blown out in the national championship against THE OSU" McGahee and get pressure on Losman, we will do just fine.

I think after we got sting a little by the Bears, these guys are thirsty.
I could see it in them after the loss.


If the Vikes had beaten the Bears, I had this one pegged as a classic "let-down" game.
AFC opponent (unknown quantity), on the road, following a big win against a hated rival.
A recipe for disaster.

Since they lost, I now figure they will come out angry and ready to put a hurting on someone.
McGahee is a stud, no doubt about that, but the Vikings have stuffed the run so far this year, so I'm counting on the Jills' success being put into the hands of JP Losman, who, despite some decent success the past couple weeks, is not even close to being in the upper echelon of QBs.


Vikes 31, Bills 13

=Z=

josdin00
09-26-2006, 02:52 PM
"Prophet" wrote:


Week 3:

Bills 20 Jets 28

Losman tossed fro 328 yds a TD and an INT and McGahee rushed for 150 yds.
They still lost.
That is really laughable.
There is no way they're putting those kind of numbers up on the Vikings D....even if they had divine intervention and did it appears they will still lose

Week 4:

The Bills continue their dive into oblivion.
Any team that can toss for over 300 yds and rush for 150 yds and still lose at home is a team that deserves no respect.


That was the first time in NFL history that the home team put up 300 yards passing and 100 yards rushing and the Visiting team still won.

bobbybryant101
09-26-2006, 02:55 PM
This game vs. the Bills is HUGE! Not in the sense that every game is, mainly because it's the first real opportunity to see if our offense can put up big numbers and blow the opponent out. Granted, the Bills D isn't bad, but it's nothing like the Bears, Panthers or even 'Skins. If the Jet's can put up 28, we had better match it. I hope our offense starts to gel, I'd hate to see this team play to the level of the competition every week. Losman is a stiff, Chester will rush for +150, no more nail biters for now, a nice win in Buffalo then home to the idiotic team that could have drafted Leinhart.
Go Vikes.

Del Rio
09-26-2006, 02:58 PM
"AWZeus" wrote:


"ultravikingfan" wrote:


The Bills do have a respectable Defense.
Thats what worries me.
I think if we can control Willis "too bad my knee was blown out in the national championship against THE OSU" McGahee and get pressure on Losman, we will do just fine.

I think after we got sting a little by the Bears, these guys are thirsty.
I could see it in them after the loss.


If the Vikes had beaten the Bears, I had this one pegged as a classic "let-down" game.
AFC opponent (unknown quantity), on the road, following a big win against a hated rival.
A recipe for disaster.

Since they lost, I now figure they will come out angry and ready to put a hurting on someone.
McGahee is a stud, no doubt about that, but the Vikings have stuffed the run so far this year, so I'm counting on the Jills' success being put into the hands of JP Losman, who, despite some decent success the past couple weeks, is not even close to being in the upper echelon of QBs.


Vikes 31, Bills 13

=Z=


I like the score AW, I am with you on 30+.

ultravikingfan
09-26-2006, 03:12 PM
"thevikingfan" wrote:


the bills were 1rst against the run in 2004 when pat left for us it dropped all the way to 29 (i believe) I think we will be able to run a all over them takeo is a beast and so is flecher nate clements is a quality cb.They have a good rb in mgahee but i dont think they will have a good day running the ball my prediction is 20 carries for 50-60 yards for the bills as for jp 17 of 32 2 picks 170 yards


In 2004 the Bills were 2nd in total defense: 7th vs. the run and 3rd against the pass.

In 2005 the Bills were 29th in total defense:
31st vs. the run and 19th against the pass.

Total, run, and pass defense is measured by yards per game.

Please check stats before tossing them out there as gospel.

Here is the 2004 NFL against the run:
http://www.nfl.com/stats/teamsort/NFL/DEF-RUSHING/2004/regular

Besides, teams change by year.
Look at us as a good example.

ec179299
09-26-2006, 03:24 PM
that ted ginn has to go. you are a minnesota refugee in cleveland? i live by cleveland and ohio state fans make me HATE ohio st. and of all people ted ginn, the most overrated college player in america. track stars are not football players, he will find that out real quick in the nfl. maybe the raiders will draft him and he can be the next willie gault. sorry, this has nothing to do with the bills, but osu fans may be the most annoying of any sport in the country.

SABURZFAN
09-26-2006, 03:32 PM
[quote author=josdin00 link=topic=27714.msg476226#msg476226 date=1159300372]
That was the first time in NFL history that the home team put up 300 yards passing and 100 yards rushing and the Visiting team still won.
[quote]


that's what happens when a young team commits turnovers.

Zeus
09-26-2006, 03:42 PM
"ec179299" wrote:


that ted ginn has to go. you are a minnesota refugee in cleveland? i live by cleveland and ohio state fans make me HATE ohio st. and of all people ted ginn, the most overrated college player in america. track stars are not football players, he will find that out real quick in the nfl. maybe the raiders will draft him and he can be the next willie gault. sorry, this has nothing to do with the bills, but osu fans may be the most annoying of any sport in the country.


*cough*
Yankees fans *cough*

=Z=

ultravikingfan
09-26-2006, 04:15 PM
"ec179299" wrote:


that ted ginn has to go. you are a minnesota refugee in cleveland? i live by cleveland and ohio state fans make me HATE ohio st. and of all people ted ginn, the most overrated college player in america. track stars are not football players, he will find that out real quick in the nfl. maybe the raiders will draft him and he can be the next willie gault. sorry, this has nothing to do with the bills, but osu fans may be the most annoying of any sport in the country.


Yes, I am a Minnesota fan in the Cleveland area.
I am from the land of Ice and Snow, so do not label me as an Ohioan...I hate Ohio.
And I do like the Buckeyes.
I am not a hardcore college fan like the NFL...so I do have a few teams; OSU, Gophs, and NDSU.


Ginn is good and not just a track star.
He mine shine in the NFL or he may not.

I find that people who are annoyed by OSU fans are annoying themselvs.
:o

Ltrey33
09-26-2006, 04:28 PM
I think we can handle the Bills' offense. We just need to go at them early and not let JP get comfortable. If he gets rattled early, the Bills are done.

TheKnuck
09-30-2006, 10:40 AM
i'm just giggity that i will be able to finally watch another Viking game on the tube.
i had to watch the packers play the lions last week, ewww......................oh, and the vikes will pwn the bills!!!!!!

vikingbill50
09-30-2006, 11:01 AM
does anyone know if takeo is going to play...would be one less worry if he isnt

Prophet
09-30-2006, 11:13 AM
"vikingbill50" wrote:


does anyone know if takeo is going to play...would be one less worry if he isnt


Last I heard he wasn't.
Here's a link (http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/6008572) to the latest NFL injury report.


MINNESOTA VIKINGS AT BUFFALO BILLS - Minnesota Vikings: OUT: QB Tarvaris Jackson (Knee). QUESTIONABLE: LB Ben Leber (Knee). PROBABLE: DT Pat Williams (Ankle); RB Chester Taylor (Ankle). Buffalo Bills: QUESTIONABLE: S Matt Bowen (Shin); LB Takeo Spikes (Hamstring); CB Kiwaukee Thomas (Back).

PurplePeopleEaters
09-30-2006, 11:49 AM
"ultravikingfan" wrote:


The Bills do have a respectable Defense.
Thats what worries me.
I think if we can control Willis "too bad my knee was blown out in the national championship against THE OSU" McGahee and get pressure on Losman, we will do just fine.

I think after we got sting a little by the Bears, these guys are thirsty.
I could see it in them after the loss.


Quite honestly, after seeing our offense do just fine against the bears, the bills should be no problem. We played arguably the best defense in the last 20 years last week, the best pass rusher in the NFL the week before (also with a great D), and one of the top defensive teams from the last year in week one. The bills will look like chumps after that. This is the week that the o-line gels.

gregair13
09-30-2006, 09:32 PM
we are playing the weakest defensive of the teams we have played so far. maybe we can finally score on offensive

digital420
10-01-2006, 06:06 AM
I really see our O line over dominating the D of the Bills. they are fast but undersized and i see Ct really getting some good runs in. B.j will have a bit more time in the pocket, and maybe we'll see the TE's get more involved.

our D is going to feast.. if we get ahead early we'll be in the drivers seat for the entire game. hopefully it'll cause more of a rush from the bills O line and give us some good turnover plays.

Bills 12 - Vikings 27

DiGiTaL

singersp
10-01-2006, 07:55 AM
Bills might pass first against Vikings (http://www.billsinsider.com/index.php?name=News&file=article&sid=10339)

singersp
10-01-2006, 08:06 AM
"singersp" wrote:


Bills might pass first against Vikings (http://www.billsinsider.com/index.php?name=News&file=article&sid=10339)





If I remember that game in 2002 against the Bills correctly. If Brien doesn't miss just one of the two PAT's he missed, we win the game without it going into overtime.

Mr. Purple
10-01-2006, 08:57 AM
"singersp" wrote:


"singersp" wrote:


Bills might pass first against Vikings (http://www.billsinsider.com/index.php?name=News&file=article&sid=10339)





If I remember that game in 2002 against the Bills correctly. If Brien doesn't miss just one of the two PAT's he missed, we win the game without it going into overtime.




I remeber that game all to much.Right before half time we went to kick the PAT, and my friend goes "Oh they'll make it easy, lets run up to the store."Sure enough he missed it and we all know what later went on to happen in the game.