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Tbets
09-17-2006, 05:11 PM
Congrats to all vikins fans on a great win today.

Just wondering how you all think the purple gang will fair next week vs. the baddest D in all the land?

at least we know the viks recievers wont be running their mouths like the detroit lions reciever!

any one got a predection for the game next week?

Redmption
09-17-2006, 05:20 PM
Its a NFC North Showdown!!

Purple Floyd
09-17-2006, 05:22 PM
The Bears are certainly running on all cylinders so far. They haven't played a quality defense yet so I am not putting tham at 16-0 yet but they certainly look like the team to beat in the division.

The Vikings will have to play better than they have so far and the Bears will have to play worse than they have so far for us to win but stranger things have happened.

I have picked the Vikings to win in the first two games and they have come through, but this time I am going to take the Bears to win by at least 10 points. Until a few of the linemen, including the one that just signed a big extension can show mw that they can show up every down I don't think the rest of the team can carry the load for them.

Bears 20-10 >:(

BadlandsVikings
09-17-2006, 05:23 PM
"Tbets" wrote:


Congrats to all vikins fans on a great win today.

Just wondering how you all think the purple gang will fair next week vs. the baddest D in all the land?

at least we know the viks recievers wont be running their mouths like the detroit lions reciever!

any one got a predection for the game next week?
24-21 Vikings

mnjamie
09-17-2006, 05:27 PM
"Tbets" wrote:


Congrats to all vikins fans on a great win today.

Just wondering how you all think the purple gang will fair next week vs. the baddest D in all the land?

at least we know the viks recievers wont be running their mouths like the detroit lions reciever!

any one got a predection for the game next week?



I GUARANTEE a Victory !!!
Why do you ask ??
The reason is that I will be flying in to attend the game and the Vikes have NEVER lost when I was present at the Dome ... 8 games running ....

;D

tosstomoss
09-17-2006, 05:29 PM
We need to do better then we did today. I hope Childress has a good plan. We were very lucky today. I will be watching the game w my best friend who is a Bears fan. I like being home, so I will say 24-21 Vikes

Billy Boy
09-17-2006, 05:29 PM
Welcome.
I predict one of our secondary gives this Bernard Berrian character a concusion.

Prophet
09-17-2006, 05:32 PM
It usually takes me a few days of contemplation after gameday before I get into the next week's game.
I've been pleasantly surprised by the outcomes of the first two games and am banking on the new-look Vikings getting better each week.
Once all the cogs come together the Vikings will be a team to be reckoned with.
They're no slouch now, but they are in their infancy in this regime.

Tbets
09-17-2006, 05:34 PM
i alwasy love the rosy outlook of fans.
;D

I must say i am very surprised by those in purple antisipating scoring 20+ points on the bears D.
???

I dont see the bears winnig the superbowl but
i dont see them giving up 20+ points next sunday either.
:-*

Bears 19 - MInn 10

mnjamie
09-17-2006, 05:37 PM
"Tbets" wrote:


i alwasy love the rosy outlook of fans.
;D

I must say i am very surprised by those in purple antisipating scoring 20+ points on the bears D.
???

I dont see the bears winnig the superbowl but
i dont see them giving up 20+ points next sunday either.
:-*

Bears 19 - MInn 10


I see Chester with pretty similar stats to last week against the Deadskins ... 31 attempts for around 90 yrds ... eat up the clock, convert 3rd downs and pull out another close one.

Vikes:
17
Bears:13

Billy Boy
09-17-2006, 05:54 PM
"mnjamie" wrote:


"Tbets" wrote:


i alwasy love the rosy outlook of fans.
;D

I must say i am very surprised by those in purple antisipating scoring 20+ points on the bears D.
???

I dont see the bears winnig the superbowl but
i dont see them giving up 20+ points next sunday either.
:-*

Bears 19 - MInn 10


I see Chester with pretty similar stats to last week against the Deadskins ... 31 attempts for around 90 yrds ... eat up the clock, convert 3rd downs and pull out another close one.

Vikes:
17
Bears:13




I sure hope not, Taylor needs like at least 150 yards on 25 rushes.
Vikes gotta get up Taylor's yards per attempt so he can get MVP this year!
Hes up to 3.6 after two stiff defenses and an O-line thats slowly meshing..
Nevermind what am I talking about, Bears are gonna be all over that backfield.
I agree with prophet but for differant reasons.
I need atleast a few days for articles to come out so I can steal their ideas.

Something like Bears 20 Vikes 13 sounds probable.
BJ will be too sore from Peppers to dodge Chicago's blitzes.

Big C
09-17-2006, 06:04 PM
16-13 Vikings. That's how we seem to be winning games this season
;D.

Childress will work on 3rd down conversions and they will be prepared for some ball control offense. Wiggins will have a big game as the WRs get shut down. Our defense played crazy in the 2nd half and in over time. The two defenses will keep both sides in the game, but I am hoping that Brad keeps his composure longer than Grossman to setup the game-winning field goal with seconds to spare.

VikesfaninWis
09-17-2006, 06:14 PM
The Bears haven't played a good defense yet this year.. I will say this much though.. The Vikings need to play better in every aspect to have a chance at beating the Bears.. Chicago is playing on all cylinders right now, and it will take a total team effort to beat them..

Depending on which defense and offense shows up for both teams decides the winner next week.. So I won't make a prediction on who wins, I will just wait till next week to find out..

Tbets
09-17-2006, 06:34 PM
I see Chester with pretty similar stats to last week against the Deadskins ... 31 attempts for around 90 yrds ... eat up the clock, convert 3rd downs and pull out another close one.

Vikes:
17
Bears:13
[/quote]

your equating the bears defense with the Red skins?
Chester will be lucky to grind out 75 yards.

the bears opponents have converted 5 of 24 3rd downs.

just looking for a little reality to the nubmers your proposing. Oh yea, the bears have given up just one touchdown in the last 30 quaters of regual season games.

NordicNed
09-17-2006, 06:36 PM
Grossman always seems to play his best against us...
::)
;)




I can't wait.... ;D

PurpleRide
09-17-2006, 06:37 PM
It totally sucks one of my best friends is getting married this weekend so i am not going to be at the game.
I always have to miss one game a year because of weddings.
Whats the deal?
Anyone heard of a spring wedding any more?

ultravikingfan
09-17-2006, 06:53 PM
I see Chester teabagging the entire Bears defense!
;D

RK.
09-17-2006, 06:53 PM
Its hard to tell how good the Bears really are.
25 teams in the NFL wouldn't have that much trouble beating up on the Pack and the Lions.
The Bears are good but untested at this point.
It will come down to turnovers I think.
The team that turns it over the most loses this game.
I think we win this battle.
It will be a close game.

vikinggreg
09-17-2006, 07:07 PM
The Bears will be our big test and I'm hoping for the best.
One big difference we have going for us this year is our coaching staff was upgraded and adapted far better this year.
We can win if we control our penalties and we win the trench wars on both sides of the ball. Should be another close hard fought game if we don't make mistakes. Important game in the division, this will give us a chance to see how well Childress fires up the troops.

magicci
09-17-2006, 07:22 PM
I've never been so worried about a game in the regular season. Their offense seems to be clicking and their defense is lights out. We need this game to prove our selves.

sharper42
09-17-2006, 07:42 PM
bears havny played anyone this year yet, two 0-2 teams comon. i dont think they are as good as they are supposed to be. regardless, they have a good D. but the vikes have beat 2 playoff teams thus far both teams we beat totaled 21 wins combined last year. the bears have beat two teams that combined 9 wins last year.

















vikes 23 bears 10

MaddenVodkaAddict
09-17-2006, 08:18 PM
3-3 tie.
Everyone's a winner!

Billy Boy
09-17-2006, 08:27 PM
"sharper42" wrote:


bears havny played anyone this year yet, two 0-2 teams comon. i dont think they are as good as they are supposed to be. regardless, they have a good D. but the vikes have beat 2 playoff teams thus far both teams we beat totaled 21 wins combined last year. the bears have beat two teams that combined 9 wins last year.

















vikes 23 bears 10


Ok sorry dude, the vikes are my team and I like to be optomistic but its time to be realistic too.
Both Wash and Carolina were missing their star off. players, and we barely snuck off wins.
Detroit looked pretty good against a very good Seattle last week so you cant the Bears win this week as a walk in the park.
For the Vikes to beat the bears they are definatly gonna have to pick up their game a notch.
I think we can and hopefully we will but I really dont know.
I dont think the bears are overratted iether, I haven't heard a single analyst exhagerate how the good the Bears look.

sharper42
09-17-2006, 09:03 PM
"Billy" wrote:


"sharper42" wrote:


bears havny played anyone this year yet, two 0-2 teams comon. i dont think they are as good as they are supposed to be. regardless, they have a good D. but the vikes have beat 2 playoff teams thus far both teams we beat totaled 21 wins combined last year. the bears have beat two teams that combined 9 wins last year.

















vikes 23 bears 10


Ok sorry dude, the vikes are my team and I like to be optomistic but its time to be realistic too.
Both Wash and Carolina were missing their star off. players, and we barely snuck off wins.
Detroit looked pretty good against a very good Seattle last week so you cant the Bears win this week as a walk in the park.

For the Vikes to beat the bears they are definatly gonna have to pick up their game a notch.
I think we can and hopefully we will but I really dont know.
I dont think the bears are overratted iether, I haven't heard a single analyst exhagerate how the good the Bears look.


i do take detroit on the road at chicago a walk in the park for chicago. seattle beat themselves last week missing 2 fg's and alexander fumbled, detroit's defense was supposed to be improved, not really after gettin lit up by grossman for 4 td's?? thats horrible. oh and did you watch football night in america on nbc? collinsworth picked chicago to go to the super bowl!!! thats not exagerating to you????

Tbets
09-18-2006, 10:12 AM
Lets all just take a deep breath and sing along shall we?

You know the words! lets hear ya!

Bear down, Chicago Bears, make every play clear the way to victory;
Bear down, Chicago Bears, put up a fight with a might so fearlessly.

We'll never forget the way you thrilled the nation with your T-formation.
Bear down, Chicago Bears, and let them know why you're wearing the crown.

You're the pride and joy of Illinois, Chicago Bears, bear down.

I am very sorry to let you know the VIkes will be luck to score a tD an a field goal. Those of you projecting 20+ points must be smoking that funny grass.

The purple scored 16 vs. carolina with the TD comming on a Fake field goal attempt and 3 field goals, and only mustered 19 vs. washintiong with an extra field goal.
Not quite an offensive powerhouse.

While I agree the vikes are playing pretty solid football, please let me know what you see that makes you belive they can score more vs the bears than they have aginst a pushover like washington and a very weakend carolina team?

Now the bears offense is not nearly as good as they played on sunday and i do see them comming back down to earth, but the BEar D is not joke or fluke. those boys are laying some lumber on folks.



If your best offensive play is a fake field goal, the purple boys will be in for a LONG sunday afternoon vs. the bears.

Prophet
09-18-2006, 10:25 AM
I wouldn't be stroking yourself too much.
How about a little reality check: the Bears beat the Packers and Lions.
The Vikings beat two teams picked to be in the playoffs.
Both teams are 2-0, there isn't a reasonable person in the land that would equate the 2-0 records.

Tbets
09-18-2006, 10:32 AM
i am sorry. did you give any kind of reasoning for predicting a big offensive day from the vikings?

do you really think wash. is a playoff team? yikes! that is crazy talk.

I am well aware the bears are not a good offensive team. much like
minnesota. but do you really think the vikes will put up 20+ vs the bears?

That just seems really unlikely. but its football and crazy things happen!

Del Rio
09-18-2006, 10:35 AM
"Tbets" wrote:


i alwasy love the rosy outlook of fans.
;D

I must say i am very surprised by those in purple antisipating scoring 20+ points on the bears D.
???

I dont see the bears winnig the superbowl but
i dont see them giving up 20+ points next sunday either.
:-*

Bears 19 - MInn 10






You probably didnt see them putting up 30+ points on the Bears last year either. It can be done. Your team is fourth in yards per game, we are 6th. I would be surprised if the Bears find the endzone. Hopefully we dont break Grossman again like we did last year.

Going to be a great game, I'm glad the Bears are good again and the Vikings appear to be improved, no more Packer Rivalry, back to tradition, Vikings Bears.......the world is better now.

Whoever makes the most mistakes will lose. The Bears haven't faced a team that is consistent on offense. We may not be explosive but we are capable and that is more then can be said for the Lions and Packers.

I think 13-3 Vikings sounds good.

Tbets
09-18-2006, 10:40 AM
i have always enjoyed the minn. games. i think johnson is a very underated qb. hopefully we will have a great game that goes down to the final minutes of the 4th quarter.

tybrones87
09-18-2006, 10:43 AM
The VIkings played good defenses the first two weeks of the year with Carolina being very good. Carolina has a better D-line than chicago does, and we can all agree that their d-line is what killed us. We don't have to play against Peppers next week. I think we will have about an equal amount of points against the Bears as we did the first two games. Somewhere between 10 and 20. The bears played bad teams the first two weeks, and put up big numbers os its hard to guage them truly, but i don't thinkthat they are a powerhouse of a team that is unbeatable.

UndisputedVike
09-18-2006, 10:48 AM
"Tbets" wrote:


i am sorry. did you give any kind of reasoning for predicting a big offensive day from the vikings?

do you really think wash. is a playoff team? yikes! that is crazy talk.

I am well aware the bears are not a good offensive team. much like
minnesota. but do you really think the vikes will put up 20+ vs the bears?

That just seems really unlikely. but its football and crazy things happen!


To be quite honest, we beat ourselves if anything the last 2 games, we actually should have lost them both. Due to poor play on both parts we came out the victor, making those mistakes against the Bears will be a no no and we'll pay for it.

But I seriously think the Bears are a little overhyped, they have no running game, Jones was non-exsistant these 2 games and against 2 very suspect rush Defenses. If anyone thinks Grossman throws for 4 TD's in this game is sadly mistaken. I'm not gonna be a homer and predict the Vikings to win like most do, I'll stay optimistic and say I'll wait until the game is done.

Yes, Washington did go to the Playoffs last year if you didn't notice, they gained new weapons on offense and their Defense was top 10 so yeah, a pushover they are not. Right now they just haven't got into a rhythm on offense. Plus Carolina's D-Line is better than the Bear's D-Line to be honest so I don't see them causing as much havoc as Peppers and company did.

Prophet
09-18-2006, 10:53 AM
You must be addressing someone else's post, but I'll play anyway.

I don't expect a huge offensive day from either team.
Carolina had a stifling D resulting in 5 sacks, and an INT.
BJ has thrown a grand total of 1 TD in two games.
The Vikings did have a rusher for over 100 yds and a receiver for over a 100 yds even though they didn't score.
The Bears have spread the ball around against suspect Ds and only have one skill player breaking the 100 yd mark in the first two games.
The Vikings D is formidable so far this year and I would take BJ any day over Grossman at QB.


The Vikings are a team that will be slowly improving over the season, no doubt.
What?
You say so will every other team?
Not at the rate the Vikings will be improving.
A team that comes in with an entirely new coaching staff and new schemes on O and D and still wins on the road on MNF in the capitol and beats a favored Carolina team has earned some respect.
Whether you recognize that or not is irrelevant.
I guarantee the Bears' coaching staff and players are nervous about going to Minnesota.
This will be the Bears first test of the season.
It will be the Vikings' third test.

Expect a battle.

Marrdro
09-18-2006, 10:54 AM
"Prophet" wrote:


It usually takes me a few days of contemplation after gameday before I get into the next week's game.
I've been pleasantly surprised by the outcomes of the first two games and am banking on the new-look Vikings getting better each week.
Once all the cogs come together the Vikings will be a team to be reckoned with.
They're no slouch now, but they are in their infancy in this regime.


Gotta agree with Prophet here, the running game did look better and I think Williamson is only gonna get better.

Chicago has faced two teams that were cream puffs while we have faced two of the better teams defensively from last year and are picks to go far in the playoffs even though they were a bit dinged.

Childress and his staff have OUT COACHED two great coaches.

Vikes 24 - Bears 13.

Tbets
09-18-2006, 10:55 AM
i agree fully the bears are overhyped. with out question grossman likley never have antoher 4 td game in his career.

washingtion is not a playoff team this year anymore than detroit is. both have some tools but neither is playing well and no kind of bragging can come from beating either of those teams.

should be a good game on sunday. very similar offense, ball control and limited turnovers will decide the game.

digital420
09-18-2006, 11:03 AM
ok,, here's my breakdown based on what I've seen.

both D's are up there in the hitting
both D's cause turnovers
both D's are have been very stingy with points
both D's boast mean D lines
Chicago has an advantage of being able to say their D system is Maturing
Minnesota has the advantage of having a new system for OC's to learn.
Minnesota has an advantage due to Home Crowd!!! the dome is not easy for QB's

advantage Minnesota

Both O's have managed to win games for their teams.
Both QB's have proven they can hit their receivers.
Both O lines have made improvments helping the run game.

Bears show an advantage of QB not being bruised up
Vikings show advantage with
a more expierenced and capable QB


The O's are gonna be decided in the trenches.. I'm kinda sad to have to say I can't really find a better advantage either way, and it will come down to who's O line holds the best. I don't see our left side failing.. but our right is still in question.. esp after what Peppers did.


Advantage: noone.. it'll be low production from both sides.


Coaches
Lovie is a good coach.. he knows football, he knows his team. I would think that this is gonna cause some overconfidence, maybe not in him, but in his coaching staff.
Childress is very much a tactics guy. He'll look for every way he can work his will into the game. He knows ball, and he's shown he's got that crafty view and that he's not affraid to use it.
Brad's coaching staff is new, but that is giving them the drive to do more, and more, this is the mentality of the underdog, which after a very long time.. we are. For this reason i'd give Childress the advantage. Lovie is under preasure to win, he has the more proven team, the big PICK of the division.. Childress has won 2 games he wan't supposed to. He's proven to Viking fans he knows what he's doing. The media will forgive him for a loss here, early in the season and to a team we shouldn't beat (in paper).
when it comes time to make that do or die decision.. that'll be the moment these two Coaches will be judged.

Advantage: Brad Childress


all in all, I think it'll be a true NFC Black and Blue game!! Detriot and GarbageBay have worked they way to division rivals.. but now are back where they belong.. I welcome the next decade of the good old Viking/Bear

Stars(Wild)/Blackhawks
beatum till u can't stand rivalries!!

Vikes 18
Bears 10

DiGiTaL

sweetness34
09-18-2006, 11:07 AM
"Del" wrote:


"Tbets" wrote:


i alwasy love the rosy outlook of fans.
;D

I must say i am very surprised by those in purple antisipating scoring 20+ points on the bears D.
???

I dont see the bears winnig the superbowl but
i dont see them giving up 20+ points next sunday either.
:-*

Bears 19 - MInn 10






You probably didnt see them putting up 30+ points on the Bears last year either. It can be done. Your team is fourth in yards per game, we are 6th. I would be surprised if the Bears find the endzone. Hopefully we dont break Grossman again like we did last year.

Going to be a great game, I'm glad the Bears are good again and the Vikings appear to be improved, no more Packer Rivalry, back to tradition, Vikings Bears.......the world is better now.

Whoever makes the most mistakes will lose. The Bears haven't faced a team that is consistent on offense. We may not be explosive but we are capable and that is more then can be said for the Lions and Packers.

I think 13-3 Vikings sounds good.


Last year the vikes scored 30+ points on our scrubs. We rested our starters(which did us no good in the playoffs) that game.

sweetness34
09-18-2006, 11:18 AM
"Prophet" wrote:


You must be addressing someone else's post, but I'll play anyway.

I don't expect a huge offensive day from either team.
Carolina had a stifling D resulting in 5 sacks, and an INT.
BJ has thrown a grand total of 1 TD in two games.
The Vikings did have a rusher for over 100 yds and a receiver for over a 100 yds even though they didn't score.
The Bears have spread the ball around against suspect Ds and only have one skill player breaking the 100 yd mark in the first two games.
The Vikings D is formidable so far this year and I would take BJ any day over Grossman at QB.


The Vikings are a team that will be slowly improving over the season, no doubt.
What?
You say so will every other team?
Not at the rate the Vikings will be improving.
A team that comes in with an entirely new coaching staff and new schemes on O and D and still wins on the road on MNF in the capitol and beats a favored Carolina team has earned some respect.
Whether you recognize that or not is irrelevant.
I guarantee the Bears' coaching staff and players are nervous about going to Minnesota.
This will be the Bears first test of the season.
It will be the Vikings' third test.

Expect a battle.



I admit this will be the biggest challenge the Bears have faced this year, but I highly doubt the bears are nervous about going to Minnesota. Actually I'd think they'd be looking forward to it. The starters sat on the bench helplessy last year while the vikes pummeled our scrubs. This game they get to play.

Del Rio
09-18-2006, 11:22 AM
"sweetness34" wrote:


"Del" wrote:


"Tbets" wrote:


i alwasy love the rosy outlook of fans.
;D

I must say i am very surprised by those in purple antisipating scoring 20+ points on the bears D.
???

I dont see the bears winnig the superbowl but
i dont see them giving up 20+ points next sunday either.
:-*

Bears 19 - MInn 10






You probably didnt see them putting up 30+ points on the Bears last year either. It can be done. Your team is fourth in yards per game, we are 6th. I would be surprised if the Bears find the endzone. Hopefully we dont break Grossman again like we did last year.

Going to be a great game, I'm glad the Bears are good again and the Vikings appear to be improved, no more Packer Rivalry, back to tradition, Vikings Bears.......the world is better now.

Whoever makes the most mistakes will lose. The Bears haven't faced a team that is consistent on offense. We may not be explosive but we are capable and that is more then can be said for the Lions and Packers.

I think 13-3 Vikings sounds good.


Last year the vikes scored 30+ points on our scrubs. We rested our starters(which did us no good in the playoffs) that game.


A few starters maybe.

Considering we had Brad Johnson and a non explosive offense we will take it.

20+ against the Bears is definatley doable, sorry you beat the Packers and the Lions. Not good enough for me.

We beat the Panthers and the Skins, playing "great" defenses is no big deal for us so far.

Zeus
09-18-2006, 11:29 AM
"Tbets" wrote:


any one got a predection for the game next week?


Rex Grossman will tear an ACL running out of the tunnel before the national anthem.

=Z=

Tbets
09-18-2006, 11:29 AM
sorry to burst your bubble but the skins defense is not great or comparable to the bears. the panthers d is good but not great.

next sunday..lets have all (including me) come back after the game...those whos predicitons were wrong..simply post ...i was wrong. those who were right...post a little
;D

Del Rio
09-18-2006, 11:35 AM
"Tbets" wrote:


sorry to burst your bubble but the skins defense is not great or comparable to the bears. the panthers d is good but not great.

next sunday..lets have all (including me) come back after the game...those whos predicitons were wrong..simply post ...i was wrong. those who were right...post a little
;D


It pains me to educate you on your own team but I will. Last season the Panthers ranked 3rd in overall defense. The Redskins 9th. Both respectable.

This season you can't honestly say their defense is bad or yours is great lmao you have played two shit teams with piss poor offense to begin with.

If you think the Panthers or the Skins are not comparable to the Bears then you need to take a nodoze or something.

Zeus
09-18-2006, 11:35 AM
"Tbets" wrote:


sorry to burst your bubble but the skins defense is not great or comparable to the bears. the panthers d is good but not great.

The Redskins and Panthers both had a top10 defense in 2005 by any measure.
None of us here are discounting the ferocious Bears D, but you are certainly pumping up the opponents which the Bears have pummeled the past two weeks.

The Packers and the Lions are, quite simply, two of the five worst teams in football.
The Bears should kick the crap out of them.
They did that impressively, that's for sure - but I look at winning a road game on Monday night in front of 90,000 fans on 9/11 as as big of a victory as any had in Week 1.

As for yesterday's game, Julius Peppers had the best defensive game I've seen in YEARS and the Vikings still managed to pull out the victory.


This Sunday should be an even struggle between two stout defensive sides playing similar schemes.
I think the game will come down to the 4th quarter with the Vikings prevailing in front of a frenzied Dome crowd.

=Z=

sweetness34
09-18-2006, 11:36 AM
"Del" wrote:


"sweetness34" wrote:


"Del" wrote:


"Tbets" wrote:


i alwasy love the rosy outlook of fans.
;D

I must say i am very surprised by those in purple antisipating scoring 20+ points on the bears D.
???

I dont see the bears winnig the superbowl but
i dont see them giving up 20+ points next sunday either.
:-*

Bears 19 - MInn 10






You probably didnt see them putting up 30+ points on the Bears last year either. It can be done. Your team is fourth in yards per game, we are 6th. I would be surprised if the Bears find the endzone. Hopefully we dont break Grossman again like we did last year.

Going to be a great game, I'm glad the Bears are good again and the Vikings appear to be improved, no more Packer Rivalry, back to tradition, Vikings Bears.......the world is better now.

Whoever makes the most mistakes will lose. The Bears haven't faced a team that is consistent on offense. We may not be explosive but we are capable and that is more then can be said for the Lions and Packers.

I think 13-3 Vikings sounds good.


Last year the vikes scored 30+ points on our scrubs. We rested our starters(which did us no good in the playoffs) that game.


A few starters maybe.

Considering we had Brad Johnson and a non explosive offense we will take it.

20+ against the Bears is definatley doable, sorry you beat the Packers and the Lions. Not good enough for me.

We beat the Panthers and the Skins, playing "great" defenses is no big deal for us so far.


I dont consider the skins a "great defense", and are you truly happy with yesterday's win? The vikes offense was horrible and you probably would have lost if it wasn't for the bonehead pass play the panthers tried. You also failed to mention that the panthers/redskins offenses are both banged up. What would the score have been if Smith started yesterday? I'm not saying the bears offense will be the best in the league, but their firing on all cylinders now and are currently playing better than the panthers and skins offenses.

Del Rio
09-18-2006, 11:40 AM
"sweetness34" wrote:


"Del" wrote:


"sweetness34" wrote:


"Del" wrote:


"Tbets" wrote:


i alwasy love the rosy outlook of fans.
;D

I must say i am very surprised by those in purple antisipating scoring 20+ points on the bears D.
???

I dont see the bears winnig the superbowl but
i dont see them giving up 20+ points next sunday either.
:-*

Bears 19 - MInn 10






You probably didnt see them putting up 30+ points on the Bears last year either. It can be done. Your team is fourth in yards per game, we are 6th. I would be surprised if the Bears find the endzone. Hopefully we dont break Grossman again like we did last year.

Going to be a great game, I'm glad the Bears are good again and the Vikings appear to be improved, no more Packer Rivalry, back to tradition, Vikings Bears.......the world is better now.

Whoever makes the most mistakes will lose. The Bears haven't faced a team that is consistent on offense. We may not be explosive but we are capable and that is more then can be said for the Lions and Packers.

I think 13-3 Vikings sounds good.


Last year the vikes scored 30+ points on our scrubs. We rested our starters(which did us no good in the playoffs) that game.


A few starters maybe.

Considering we had Brad Johnson and a non explosive offense we will take it.

20+ against the Bears is definatley doable, sorry you beat the Packers and the Lions. Not good enough for me.

We beat the Panthers and the Skins, playing "great" defenses is no big deal for us so far.


I dont consider the skins a "great defense", and are you truly happy with yesterday's win? The vikes offense was horrible and you probably would have lost if it wasn't for the bonehead pass play the panthers tried. You also failed to mention that the panthers/redskins offenses are both banged up. What would the score have been if Smith started yesterday? I'm not saying the bears offense will be the best in the league, but their firing on all cylinders now and are currently playing better than the panthers and skins offenses.


Your firing on all cylinders? LMAO In what a 4 banger? You played the Packers and the Lions. Come on, your offense is firing on all cylinders?

Yes I am happy with that win, and I will be happy with a win against the Bears in the same fasion. Teams with good defenses always come down to who makes the worse mistakes. Yesterday it was the Panthers. It's football. It's not them handing us a gift it is us taking a gift.

We ran for over 100Yards, we had quite a few amazing drives including the very first drive of the game. We were in the redzone repeatedly and we had penalties and we did not get the ball in. It happens. It was a good offensive effort against a great defensive team.


Our offense was far from horrible and I am willing to be your offense is Far from firing on all cylinders.

Tbets
09-18-2006, 11:40 AM
the skins were great last year! the panthers were great last year!

how about this year? not last year? you really think the skins and the bears are the same?

the bears have played two week teams and the viks got realllllllly lucky to beat carolina.

like i said, should be a good game between two weak offensive teams.

Zeus
09-18-2006, 11:40 AM
"sweetness34" wrote:


I dont consider the skins a "great defense", and are you truly happy with yesterday's win? The vikes offense was horrible and you probably would have lost if it wasn't for the bonehead pass play the panthers tried. You also failed to mention that the panthers/redskins offenses are both banged up. What would the score have been if Smith started yesterday? I'm not saying the bears offense will be the best in the league, but their firing on all cylinders now and are currently playing better than the panthers and skins offenses.

I hardly call rushing for 89 yards on 34 carries "firing on all cylinders".
Especially at home against the Lions.


It's rather interesting the way you discount the Vikings two opponents (BOTH of whom, before the season, were touted as playoff teams) but refuse to acknowledge that the Packers will be lucky to win 2 games and the Lions are also a good bet to finish 5 games below .500.

Reality check:
The Bears Have Played NO ONE.

=Z=

Jviking
09-18-2006, 11:41 AM
I am pumped for this one, big time.
I think that despite the bears d, we will show more on offense that we have seen in the prior two games.
Vikes 20- bears 16

Zeus
09-18-2006, 11:43 AM
"Tbets" wrote:


the skins were great last year! the panthers were great last year!

how about this year? not last year? you really think the skins and the bears are the same?

the bears have played two week teams and the viks got realllllllly lucky to beat carolina.

like i said, should be a good game between two weak offensive teams.


How about this year?
The Packers just lost to the SAINTS at HOME???
Are you kidding me?


I don't argue that the Vikes got a big break (or two) yesterday late in the game, but the Vikes D has given up SIX second-half points in two games.
That kind of hard-hitting D keeps you into games.

I'm not worried - Grossman will rupture a patella tendon or something on his way out of the tunnel.
'Cuz that's what he does in the Dome.

=Z=

davike
09-18-2006, 11:45 AM
i think this should deff be low scoring game...yes the bears offense have put up points but look at who they played, i thought the lions D would be better then that but there is alot of season left. our deffense should be able to hold them well, but they need to stop penalties at key times and also we need to get turnovers when they hit u in the face mask, we should have had at least 2 picks that they threw right at us. its our offense that needs to improve, we need to be alot better inside the red zone, and we need to stop the penalties, i liked the trickery BC used with the longwell touchdown but we should have been able to get in the endzone with our offense. we should have had a touchdown at least twice but penalties stopped us. i think we have a good chance against these guys, we will be the first good team they have faced, lets see what these bears r made of.

Del Rio
09-18-2006, 11:45 AM
"Tbets" wrote:


the skins were great last year! the panthers were great last year!

how about this year? not last year? you really think the skins and the bears are the same?

the bears have played two week teams and the viks got realllllllly lucky to beat carolina.

like i said, should be a good game between two weak offensive teams.




Your basing their value after two games? And your rubbing your own manhood over two games against piss poor opponents? Please stop now.

Lets break this down for you: You team play 2 crappy teams....you win big
My team play two good team we win small.

You team not tested.
My team tested.

You team get tested this week.
My team more of the same.

Hows that work for you?

cajunvike
09-18-2006, 11:45 AM
"AWZeus" wrote:


"Tbets" wrote:


sorry to burst your bubble but the skins defense is not great or comparable to the bears. the panthers d is good but not great.

The Redskins and Panthers both had a top10 defense in 2005 by any measure.
None of us here are discounting the ferocious Bears D, but you are certainly pumping up the opponents which the Bears have pummeled the past two weeks.

The Packers and the Lions are, quite simply, two of the five worst teams in football.
The Bears should kick the crap out of them.
They did that impressively, that's for sure - but I look at winning a road game on Monday night in front of 90,000 fans on 9/11 as as big of a victory as any had in Week 1.

As for yesterday's game, Julius Peppers had the best defensive game I've seen in YEARS and the Vikings still managed to pull out the victory.


This Sunday should be an even struggle between two stout defensive sides playing similar schemes.
I think the game will come down to the 4th quarter with the Vikings prevailing in front of a frenzied Dome crowd.

=Z=


AND I will be there in person (just like last season's thrilling final-play win over the Pukers), watching as our guys bring the "high-flying" Bears offense back to earth.
Their offense hasn't seen a defense like the Vikings D yet this season...while the Vikings offense has played against (arguably) two very good defenses.
The offense isn't really clicking on all cylinders yet...BUT they have shown that they can come back from deficits and give themselves a chance to win games late (2 for 2 so far this year), so I wouldn't doubt the Vikings ability to win this game.

It is going to be an awesome game...and the home crowd will be fired up and pushing the Vikings to win!

Prophet
09-18-2006, 11:47 AM
"sweetness34" wrote:


"Prophet" wrote:


You must be addressing someone else's post, but I'll play anyway.

I don't expect a huge offensive day from either team.
Carolina had a stifling D resulting in 5 sacks, and an INT.
BJ has thrown a grand total of 1 TD in two games.
The Vikings did have a rusher for over 100 yds and a receiver for over a 100 yds even though they didn't score.
The Bears have spread the ball around against suspect Ds and only have one skill player breaking the 100 yd mark in the first two games.
The Vikings D is formidable so far this year and I would take BJ any day over Grossman at QB.


The Vikings are a team that will be slowly improving over the season, no doubt.
What?
You say so will every other team?
Not at the rate the Vikings will be improving.
A team that comes in with an entirely new coaching staff and new schemes on O and D and still wins on the road on MNF in the capitol and beats a favored Carolina team has earned some respect.
Whether you recognize that or not is irrelevant.
I guarantee the Bears' coaching staff and players are nervous about going to Minnesota.
This will be the Bears first test of the season.
It will be the Vikings' third test.

Expect a battle.



I admit this will be the biggest challenge the Bears have faced this year, but I highly doubt the bears are nervous about going to Minnesota. Actually I'd think they'd be looking forward to it. The starters sat on the bench helplessy last year while the vikes pummeled our scrubs. This game they get to play.


Nobody put any merit into that game.
This is a real game against a completely different Vikings team.
I hope they aren't nervous and do think they are going to get their revenge.
Frustration sets in when the ball doesn't move down the field as effortlessly as it did against the Packers and Lions.
This will be fun to watch.

How did the Bears get their first three games against NFCN opponents?
Nice way to start off the season.

Del Rio
09-18-2006, 11:49 AM
"Tbets" wrote:


lets see...carolina scored what aginst the lions? and how many pts. did they score aginst the vikings? hmmmmmmm.....yea.. .so which is it?

so are you saying the lions d is better than the vikings D? or are the lions better than the vikings or worse? w

ashingtion sure looks like a great team this year dont they?

( i dont really think detroit is better than the panthers) but your arguments seem to think you might.

..the purple got a lucky yet hard fought win yesterday..


The Panthers scored 0 against the lions because they haven't played the Lions.
If they had I am sure the results would have been about the same as when you played the Lions.

Tbets
09-18-2006, 11:50 AM
quite a luck schedule for the bears this season. neither the bears or viks are going to be able to do much this season. one will win the divison and be out o fthe playoffs in a hurry.

still should be a fun game to watch...both with poor offenses and solid defense.

Zeus
09-18-2006, 11:51 AM
"Tbets" wrote:


lets see...carolina scored what aginst the lions? and how many pts. did they score aginst the vikings? hmmmmmmm.....yea.. .so which is it?

so are you saying the lions d is better than the vikings D? or are the lions better than the vikings or worse? w

ashingtion sure looks like a great team this year dont they?

( i dont really think detroit is better than the panthers) but your arguments seem to think you might.

..the purple got a lucky yet hard fought win yesterday..


Dude - when you reply, use the quote button so we know WTF you're talking about.

I've no clue to whom you are replying.
Was it me?

=Z=

snowinapril
09-18-2006, 11:52 AM
It is so difficult to tell what is real and what is not after two weeks.

I thought that the Lions D was tougher than that.

I am hoping the Lions D just caved yesterday on the Road.

Grossman has given us a hard time when he was able to stay(or play) in the games in the past.
He is no Kyle Boller, and in this case, this is a compliment.
Meaning that the coaches keep sticking with him, but this guy is actually turning into a QB.
He plays within the system and can make plays when they are there.

Go Vikes.

Del Rio
09-18-2006, 11:53 AM
"AWZeus" wrote:


"Tbets" wrote:


lets see...carolina scored what aginst the lions? and how many pts. did they score aginst the vikings? hmmmmmmm.....yea.. .so which is it?

so are you saying the lions d is better than the vikings D? or are the lions better than the vikings or worse? w

ashingtion sure looks like a great team this year dont they?

( i dont really think detroit is better than the panthers) but your arguments seem to think you might.

..the purple got a lucky yet hard fought win yesterday..


Dude - when you reply, use the quote button so we know WTF you're talking about.

I've no clue to whom you are replying.
Was it me?

=Z=


Im guessing me.
Even with that knowledge I still don't know wtf he is talking about.

Vikes
09-18-2006, 12:33 PM
"magicci" wrote:


I've never been so worried about a game in the regular season. Their offense seems to be clicking and their defense is lights out. We need this game to prove our selves.


This is the game for the division. I'm glad we are at home though. We usually split and I hope that is no different this year.

Ltrey33
09-18-2006, 12:43 PM
"Vikes" wrote:


"magicci" wrote:


I've never been so worried about a game in the regular season. Their offense seems to be clicking and their defense is lights out. We need this game to prove our selves.


This is the game for the division. I'm glad we are at home though. We usually split and I hope that is no different this year.



I think their offense is clicking because they are playing horrible defenses and their defense is lights out because yes, they are very good, but they have also played two teams that have inept offenses the past two years.

I think it is going to be a tough, low scoring game. I think it will come down to field position and a Rex Grossman turnover.

Vikes 13
Bears 10

sweetness34
09-18-2006, 12:43 PM
"AWZeus" wrote:


"sweetness34" wrote:


I dont consider the skins a "great defense", and are you truly happy with yesterday's win? The vikes offense was horrible and you probably would have lost if it wasn't for the bonehead pass play the panthers tried. You also failed to mention that the panthers/redskins offenses are both banged up. What would the score have been if Smith started yesterday? I'm not saying the bears offense will be the best in the league, but their firing on all cylinders now and are currently playing better than the panthers and skins offenses.

I hardly call rushing for 89 yards on 34 carries "firing on all cylinders".
Especially at home against the Lions.


It's rather interesting the way you discount the Vikings two opponents (BOTH of whom, before the season, were touted as playoff teams) but refuse to acknowledge that the Packers will be lucky to win 2 games and the Lions are also a good bet to finish 5 games below .500.

Reality check:
The Bears Have Played NO ONE.

=Z=


If you read my first post i stated that this weeks game will be our biggest challenge so far. I assumed viking fans would see that as an admittance to our beating 2 bad teams. As for firing on all cylinders... only 2 teams have scored more points and ive never seen this in my 28 years as a bear fan. http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/statistics?stat=pass&sort=rat&league=nfl&season=2&year=2006

VikingPatrick
09-18-2006, 12:54 PM
i dont know????
Did the Vikings beat the Panthers????
Or did the Panthers beat the Panthers??
Without that lateral on the punt I dont think we win!!!!
I will take it...to coin a phrase...."Just win baby"
But in reality I believe our offense needs to REALLY pick it up a notch in order to compete against a quality defense like the Bears.
24-10 Bears ( i hope I am wrong)

Prophet
09-18-2006, 01:01 PM
The Bears will realize they went to the fly-by-night mechanic when it was deemed that their offense was firing on all cylinders.
Expect more of a poorly tuned Geo to take the field this weekend.

snowinapril
09-18-2006, 01:04 PM
"sweetness34" wrote:


If you read my first post i stated that this weeks game will be our biggest challenge so far. I assumed viking fans would see that as an admittance to our beating 2 bad teams. As for firing on all cylinders... only 2 teams have scored more points and ive never seen this in my 28 years as a bear fan. http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/statistics?stat=pass&sort=rat&league=nfl&season=2&year=2006



I just have to say this.
WARNING.......the sky is falling!!!!!

I went to the link and look at the top 5 QBs in the league according to passer rating.

1 R. Grossman QB, CHI
2 C. Batch QB, PIT
3 David Carr QB, HOU
4 P. Rivers QB, SDG
5 C. Pennington QB, NYJ

No one could have predicted this.
When have the bears has a QB ranked #1 in passing?
Has it ever happened before?

Prophet
09-18-2006, 01:07 PM
Without even looking further you know the statistics are meaningless.
Charlie Batch and Rex Grossman lead the group.

sweetness34
09-18-2006, 01:21 PM
"Prophet" wrote:


Without even looking further you know the statistics are meaningless.
Charlie Batch and Rex Grossman lead the group.



I didn't even know Batch was still playing!

kansas_man54
09-18-2006, 01:22 PM
yes, it appears that the bears are the team to beat in our division.
however, i don't agree with all of the hoopla surrounding them thus far this season.
their D is solid, but the offense has looked great merely cause' of who they've played so far.
I think that this upcoming game at the dome will prove the believers wrong.
They Vikes are starting to come around and click as a whole, which is something not seen in quite some time.
If it does not happen this week, it will very soon!
23-13 Vikes

sweetness34
09-18-2006, 01:22 PM
"Prophet" wrote:


The Bears will realize they went to the fly-by-night mechanic when it was deemed that their offense was firing on all cylinders.
Expect more of a poorly tuned Geo to take the field this weekend.



Ironically thats what they were saying on the lions board too!! Prophet are you a closet lions fan?

vikingTurf
09-18-2006, 01:24 PM
All i care is I get the game in the local fox station here this weekend. Oh wait, I also care about Vikings winning.
;)

snowinapril
09-18-2006, 01:38 PM
"Prophet" wrote:


Without even looking further you know the statistics are meaningless.
Charlie Batch and Rex Grossman lead the group.



It is all in the averages. probably squewed stats because of the lack of sample (weeks played) size.

Carr might have been the only guy one might have thrown in there, and that would have been a long shot.

SD, Pit
and Chi are all teams that have strong D which probably gives them good field position.

sweetness34
09-18-2006, 01:44 PM
"snowinapril" wrote:


"Prophet" wrote:


Without even looking further you know the statistics are meaningless.
Charlie Batch and Rex Grossman lead the group.



It is all in the averages. probably squewed stats because of the lack of sample (weeks played) size.

Carr might have been the only guy one might have thrown in there, and that would have been a long shot.

SD, Pit
and Chi are all teams that have strong D which probably gives them good field position.


You also have to consider the offensive lines. A better line means more time to throw/ less interceptions, and less sacks. I'm not a rocket scientist so i don't know how they figure QB ratings but INT's and I think sacks play a part in the equation.

Del Rio
09-18-2006, 01:53 PM
"sweetness34" wrote:


"snowinapril" wrote:


"Prophet" wrote:


Without even looking further you know the statistics are meaningless.
Charlie Batch and Rex Grossman lead the group.



It is all in the averages. probably squewed stats because of the lack of sample (weeks played) size.

Carr might have been the only guy one might have thrown in there, and that would have been a long shot.

SD, Pit
and Chi are all teams that have strong D which probably gives them good field position.


You also have to consider the offensive lines. A better line means more time to throw/ less interceptions, and less sacks. I'm not a rocket scientist so i don't know how they figure QB ratings but INT's and I think sacks play a part in the equation.



http://upload.wikimedia.org/math/2/d/5/2d58dcec7d62cd8f7bd73dae98f6ec30.png

http://upload.wikimedia.org/math/b/e/d/bed86a9148b7d99cd521f6d974bc0189.png

http://upload.wikimedia.org/math/7/0/2/7025d942eb85a71b466da90ef29a78d9.png

http://upload.wikimedia.org/math/d/2/4/d247b95f8aea886019bef0451db7f677.png

I dont think Sacks effect it, but your right in saying INT's do.

Zeus
09-18-2006, 01:53 PM
"sweetness34" wrote:


"snowinapril" wrote:


"Prophet" wrote:


Without even looking further you know the statistics are meaningless.
Charlie Batch and Rex Grossman lead the group.



It is all in the averages. probably squewed stats because of the lack of sample (weeks played) size.

Carr might have been the only guy one might have thrown in there, and that would have been a long shot.

SD, Pit
and Chi are all teams that have strong D which probably gives them good field position.


You also have to consider the offensive lines. A better line means more time to throw/ less interceptions, and less sacks. I'm not a rocket scientist so i don't know how they figure QB ratings but INT's and I think sacks play a part in the equation.


Sacks have nothing to do with QB rating.

http://www.49ersparadise.com/nfl/qbrating.shtml


Four categories are used as a basis for compiling a rating:
1. Percentage of completions per attempt
2. Average yards gained per attempt
3. Percentage of touchdown passes per attempt
4. Percentage of interceptions per attempt

=Z=

snowinapril
09-18-2006, 01:54 PM
"sweetness34" wrote:


"snowinapril" wrote:


"Prophet" wrote:


Without even looking further you know the statistics are meaningless.
Charlie Batch and Rex Grossman lead the group.



It is all in the averages. probably squewed stats because of the lack of sample (weeks played) size.

Carr might have been the only guy one might have thrown in there, and that would have been a long shot.

SD, Pit
and Chi are all teams that have strong D which probably gives them good field position.


You also have to consider the offensive lines. A better line means more time to throw/ less interceptions, and less sacks. I'm not a rocket scientist so i don't know how they figure QB ratings but INT's and I think sacks play a part in the equation.


O line good, why this?

Why are the Bears running numbers down?
70 attempts and only 198 yards. AVG 2.8

17th...Chicago...70...198...2.8...17 long

Del Rio
09-18-2006, 01:56 PM
Honestly I think we all know when the Bears play the Vikings stats don't mean shit. If you love football you love Vikings VS. Bears.

Prophet
09-18-2006, 01:59 PM
I remember a lot of Vikings vs Bears games on the vibrating football game I had as a kid.
Tough battles.
I also remember freezing my ass off at the Vikes/Bears games, loved it.

I was reading that Grossman nearly doubled his career TD total yesterday.
He either had a really really big game or he hasn't done much in the NFL so far.
I can't remember which one it is.

Del Rio
09-18-2006, 02:03 PM
"Prophet" wrote:


I remember a lot of Vikings vs Bears games on the vibrating football game I had as a kid.
Tough battles.
I also remember freezing my jiggly butt off at the Vikes/Bears games, loved it.

I was reading that Grossman nearly doubled his career TD total yesterday.
He either had a really really big game or he hasn't done much in the NFL so far.
I can't remember which one it is.


Well I think he is usually laying somewhere on the field screaming because something is torn, broken, or pulled. He is about due for an injury actually.

sweetness34
09-18-2006, 02:49 PM
"snowinapril" wrote:


"sweetness34" wrote:


"snowinapril" wrote:


"Prophet" wrote:


Without even looking further you know the statistics are meaningless.
Charlie Batch and Rex Grossman lead the group.



It is all in the averages. probably squewed stats because of the lack of sample (weeks played) size.

Carr might have been the only guy one might have thrown in there, and that would have been a long shot.

SD, Pit
and Chi are all teams that have strong D which probably gives them good field position.


You also have to consider the offensive lines. A better line means more time to throw/ less interceptions, and less sacks. I'm not a rocket scientist so i don't know how they figure QB ratings but INT's and I think sacks play a part in the equation.


O line good, why this?

Why are the Bears running numbers down?
70 attempts and only 198 yards. AVG 2.8

17th...Chicago...70...198...2.8...17 long


I dont have an answer to this. Is it poor run blocking or the fact that Thomas didnt play much in preseason? But our pass blocking has been lights out. The proof of this is the fact that Grossman is starting his 3rd consecutive game.

petrodemos
09-18-2006, 02:52 PM
look for Grossman to the leave the game on crutches! AGAIN! :o

ultravikingfan
09-18-2006, 02:55 PM
This thread is cracking me up!

One one side you have a team that beat 2 of the worst teams in the NFL and all of the sudden the are the bomb?

On the other, Del made me piss my pants!

ultravikingfan
09-18-2006, 02:56 PM
Sweatness, good to see you back.
Always enjoy when a quality fan of an opposing team comes to talk.
You are welcome here anytime; especially for dinner.
Guess what are are serving Sunday?
;)

Braddock
09-18-2006, 03:09 PM
"ultravikingfan" wrote:


Sweatness, good to see you back.
Always enjoy when a quality fan of an opposing team comes to talk.
You are welcome here anytime; especially for dinner.
Guess what are are serving Sunday?
;)


I know, I know..... A big heaping portion of whoop a$$

PacNWVike
09-18-2006, 03:09 PM
"ultravikingfan" wrote:


Sweatness, good to see you back.
Always enjoy when a quality fan of an opposing team comes to talk.
You are welcome here anytime; especially for dinner.
Guess what are are serving Sunday?

;)


Bear meat...
a bit greasy but tasty!
;D

thevikingfan
09-18-2006, 03:25 PM
we need to win this game if we dont want da bears to run away with the devision with theur rediculously easy schedule

sweetness34
09-18-2006, 04:39 PM
"thevikingfan" wrote:


we need to win this game if we dont want da bears to run away with the devision with theur rediculously easy schedule


i cant argue with this at all, but the vikes schedule is just as easy. the only differences are:

vikes play: panthers and skins
bears play: giants and bucs

panthers are better than the bucs, but the giants are better than the skins.

RK.
09-18-2006, 04:51 PM
http://www.deercreekpottery.com/pics/predator_bears.jpg

We will be taking a trophy next week.
;D ;D

BloodyHorns82
09-18-2006, 04:58 PM
I'm glad most of you are so confident the Vikings are going to win on Sunday.
I'm pretty nervous about this game.
It should be close, but I have a crappy feeling that tells me the Vikes lose this one.
I hope I'm wrong though, and that the reason the Bears have looked so impressive was due to lack of competition.
If we do win, its going to be one hell of a match.
Can't wait for Sunday!

rick
09-18-2006, 05:07 PM
Must admit alittle nervous but i do predict a 17-10 vikings win GO VIKS!

SciritaeVike
09-18-2006, 05:10 PM
"BloodyHorns82" wrote:


I'm glad most of you are so confident the Vikings are going to win on Sunday.
I'm pretty nervous about this game.
It should be close, but I have a crappy feeling that tells me the Vikes lose this one.
I hope I'm wrong though, and that the reason the Bears have looked so impressive was due to lack of competition.
If we do win, its going to be one hell of a match.
Can't wait for Sunday!



I am a lil nervous, but so far the bears have played against some relatively weak teams, with below average defenses. so i am hoping that their offense will sputter against our d.

TRAMBIA
09-18-2006, 05:12 PM
HOW COME BEARS FANS SAY WE CANT WIN CAUSE WE HAVE NO OFFENSE, BUT THATS ALL THEY DID LAST YEAR WAS WIN WITH DEFENSE.

Prophet
09-18-2006, 05:13 PM
"sweetness34" wrote:


"thevikingfan" wrote:


we need to win this game if we dont want da bears to run away with the devision with theur rediculously easy schedule


i cant argue with this at all, but the vikes schedule is just as easy. the only differences are:

vikes play: panthers and skins
bears play: giants and bucs

panthers are better than the bucs, but the giants are better than the skins.


Don't ruin his argument with facts!

The two non-divisional games I'm looking most forward to are road games against the Chickens and Fins.
I just hope Duante is still starting when we go to town.
The Bears have a road game against the Patsies and Jints coming up.
The rest should be similar matchups.

farvathevikinglover
09-18-2006, 05:40 PM
I'm going to say whoever wins is going to win about 20-17.

rick
09-18-2006, 05:42 PM
this morning i was reading some bears forums and most of their nimrod fans belive we have a weak defence and are no better than Det. HA! They are gonna get an eye opener come sunday! I would love to see a blowout 17-0 VIK

thevikingfan
09-18-2006, 05:51 PM
Whats the bears fan site?i want to go over there and talk some sense into them (aka talk trash)

Tbets
09-18-2006, 05:59 PM
I had a vision. Lance briggs seperated Johnsons head from his shoulders.

Go Bears! It will be nice to see an real smashmouth football game. the pack had nothing to give the bears and the lions just layed down after the bears put a few licks on them. i dont see minn. giving up that easy.

vikingsR#1
09-18-2006, 06:03 PM
Vikings 17, Bears 13

Heres why the vikes are gonna win....

Rex grossman is very injury prone and I think that the vikes "D" is just the thing to make it happen, if he does in fact get injured, the vikings will win with ease. If not, the vikes will still defete the Bears. Remember, Keyshawn Johnston was good but not great and that was with Jake freaking Delhome and deshawn foster at RB. The bears are a downgrade in every possible way to the panthers "o" so if we can stop the panthers, we can stop chicago. And defencely, the bears are only slighty better.
and we all know that Brad Johnston will not have 2 bad games in a row, so our offense will also be an improvment.
Hers the box score:










1





2





3






4






F

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7





3





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3






13
vikings



3





7





7






0






17

vikingsR#1
09-18-2006, 06:07 PM
"Tbets" wrote:


I had a vision...




The Vikings are gonna win the division with a 12-4 record and the bears will go 11-5.

bearsfan1
09-18-2006, 07:48 PM
did the vikes sign a dline man better then shaun rogers if not i believe rex will be fine. he has only been sacked 1 time so far

Del Rio
09-18-2006, 07:50 PM
"bearsfan1" wrote:


did the vikes sign a dline man better then shaun rogers if not i believe rex will be fine. he has only been sacked 1 time so far


No need to sign a Shaun Rogers when we have Kevin Williams and a line that is better as a whole.

But go ahead and think rex is safe against our d, we will try not to end his season....AGAIN.

4th and 26
09-18-2006, 08:23 PM
Lol, you guys seem way to over confident.
I don't see the vikings scoring 20 pts vs the first string defense.
I see brad Johnson running for his life in this game.
Neither bears or vikings have played a playoff team this year.
The panthers suck without steve smith and the deadskins are well the deadskins with a worse qb than the bears.
My team spanked 2 bad teams but that is what good teams are suppose to do. win vs bad teams.
I see turnovers the key of the game and the bears offense opening up the game. You may not be impressed with grossman but he is playing better than brad johnson.

sdcavikesfan
09-18-2006, 08:49 PM
I think
this game is gonna live up to the old name of this division black and blue, It will be close and if the vikes can control the clock and the defense get some decent pressure on grossman i think the vikings can put up a W.

WBLVikeBabe
09-18-2006, 09:14 PM
Can't wait for this game, I think it'll be pretty exciting.
Playing division rivals always makes for the best games.
Plus tons of people from PP.O are coming in to town so it should make for a great weekend of fun and football!
GO VIKES!!
Bring on 3-0!

bearsfanmn
09-18-2006, 10:29 PM
"sharper42" wrote:


bears havny played anyone this year yet, two 0-2 teams comon. i dont think they are as good as they are supposed to be. regardless, they have a good D. but the vikes have beat 2 playoff teams thus far both teams we beat totaled 21 wins combined last year. the bears have beat two teams that combined 9 wins last year.

















vikes 23 bears 10


And who have the vikes palyed this year. An absolute horrible washington team that won't even make the playoffs? There offense has generated like 20 points over two weeks at most? And missing there starting running back?
A carolina team that was missing two of there best players on defense and offense combined?
Last time I checked both teams they played were also 0 and 2.
Granted the bears have beaten two bad teams. But you forget that last year Green Bays defense was ranked in the top against the pass. And last week everyone was screaming and hollering about how great Detroits defense was against the seattle. But of course when the bears come in and not only beat but obliterate these teams. They are just horrible teams. I accdept that. The Bears have alot to prove this year. And they have done are doing it and will keep on doing it.

But one of my many questions is? The bears this year and last year combined for an average of under 13 points allowed a game. How do you think the vikes are gonna score when they couldn't even do it against Carolina last week? Very similar defenses. But you have one of the best defenseive lines in the leauge coming this week. I think even better than calorlinas. And alot faster. Car had one good guy. We have 3 on our line. Our linebackers will get an interception this week for sure. johnson can't go deep and won't have time.

Next question is how will the vikes defense
stop the bears in their tracks. Maybe you forgot, but the Bears have been running this cover two for 4 years now and damn near perfected it. Do you not think that the Bears offense maybe has to play and practice against this defense week in and week out. My guess is they might know the tricks and the scheme to beat it.

The Problem with Minnesota viking football is the media. PA and Dubay and Mike Morris and Joe Sensor have no Idea what they are talking about ever and they instill hope every year to fans that eat it up before they get a chance to see what is before them. last week they were talking on if the vikes would beat carolina then chicago then the week after that there shot for winning the nfc and going to the superbowl would be right in front of them. Idiots. let the games unfold. I have been so irrated by these guys for years. And year after year they pump up bad teams and you all fall for it. And the vikes collaspe.
Joe sensor is embarrassing. He knows nothing. I can't believe anyone listens to this old senile guy talk. Maybe one to many shots to the head. Greg coleman is almost as bad. And I don't think Mike Morris has ever even watched a Football game. He still thinks Rex Grossman is horrible. But Our offensive line would make anyone good. Our Qb's have all the time in the world. these talk show hosts are clueless.

That was a lil off the point. I think its gonna be a good game. And like last year when you play the bears the first to 13 wins. But this year we have an offense and you won't score any more than 13. and the bears are a lil to quick to be beaten by trick plays and field goals.

i predict 31 to 10

I know its early in the season and even us bears fan might be looking through navyblue and orange colored glasses but i see something good in this team this year. Im looking forward to going to this game. Maybe if you were all smart you turn to the blue and orange cause we have Alary's bar in St paul
Cause when we lose, we still win. Girls girls girls. :)

Angrybearsfan
09-18-2006, 10:58 PM
Grossman was playing well against the Vikings up until his injury.
If the best thing going for you is hoping the defense injurs Grossman, I'd say the game is pretty much going to be won by the Bears.

Vikings have some nice fatties up front to stop the run, but after that it gets a little sketchy.
Salisbury (I think) said it best: "The Vikings dont have anyone that can do anything the best, but have a lot of guys that can do a lot of things well"
or something to that effect.
I think that is spot on.

The Vikings are one of the most solid teams.
Solid on offense, solid on defnse, and well...special teams they are not that good.
The problem is the Bears are a better defense and if you go by these past two games, they are a much better offense (gasp).

I dont think the Bears offense will be as potent, but I do think they will be able to move the ball.

Homefield advantage is a huge plus for the Vikings though...always is in division games.

If, and I mean if, the Bears happen to get a lead of two touchdowns or more Childress' game plan will be kaput.
I think he is planing on it being a running game, field position game.
I think Smith is gearing up to try to score (or try to) a few TDs and shock the Vikings into a one dimensional passing game.

I actually think the Bears match up very well against the Vikings.

fungus83
09-18-2006, 11:55 PM
I don't understand how these Bear fans are coming to the conclusion that they shouldn't be afraid of our D. Go to NFL.com and look at their stats for defenses. We're ranked at #6 in the league... the Bears are #4. We have allowed 10 yards more a game than you. And I know this has been stated before but look at the teams you guys have played. Given we played two teams that were missing people (and, by the way, Clinton Portis played most of the game, I believe), but you guys played the worst ranked team in the league...and the Lions! (Green Bay and Detriot's defenses are ranked much lower than our teams)

Offense, once again, the teams you have played. I think these Bear fans are way to pumped up right now considering the people you've played. If you come into our house and win, I'll be impressed.

It will be a good game...but I'm biased and will say, I believe we'll come out on top. Only way you guys will win is if we continue to shoot ourselves in the foot and lose momentum by these stupid penalties.

NeoVikesTX
09-19-2006, 12:07 AM
Bears are always the "regular season" champions.
It's that first playoff game that always gets them.
Teams figure out that they have zero offense and can't play from behind.
Oh yeah, and they actually have to play someone good.

tybrones87
09-19-2006, 12:10 AM
"bearsfanmn" wrote:


"sharper42" wrote:


bears havny played anyone this year yet, two 0-2 teams comon. i dont think they are as good as they are supposed to be. regardless, they have a good D. but the vikes have beat 2 playoff teams thus far both teams we beat totaled 21 wins combined last year. the bears have beat two teams that combined 9 wins last year.

















vikes 23 bears 10


And who have the vikes palyed this year. An absolute horrible washington team that won't even make the playoffs? There offense has generated like 20 points over two weeks at most? And missing there starting running back?
A carolina team that was missing two of there best players on defense and offense combined?
Last time I checked both teams they played were also 0 and 2.
Granted the bears have beaten two bad teams. But you forget that last year Green Bays defense was ranked in the top against the pass. And last week everyone was screaming and hollering about how great Detroits defense was against the seattle. But of course when the bears come in and not only beat but obliterate these teams. They are just horrible teams. I accdept that. The Bears have alot to prove this year. And they have done are doing it and will keep on doing it.

But one of my many questions is? The bears this year and last year combined for an average of under 13 points allowed a game. How do you think the vikes are gonna score when they couldn't even do it against Carolina last week? Very similar defenses. But you have one of the best defenseive lines in the leauge coming this week. I think even better than calorlinas. And alot faster. Car had one good guy. We have 3 on our line. Our linebackers will get an interception this week for sure. johnson can't go deep and won't have time.

Next question is how will the vikes defense
stop the bears in their tracks. Maybe you forgot, but the Bears have been running this cover two for 4 years now and gol 'darnit near perfected it. Do you not think that the Bears offense maybe has to play and practice against this defense week in and week out. My guess is they might know the tricks and the scheme to beat it.

The Problem with Minnesota viking football is the media. PA and Dubay and Mike Morris and Joe Sensor have no Idea what they are talking about ever and they instill hope every year to fans that eat it up before they get a chance to see what is before them. last week they were talking on if the vikes would beat carolina then chicago then the week after that there shot for winning the nfc and going to the superbowl would be right in front of them. Idiots. let the games unfold. I have been so irrated by these guys for years. And year after year they pump up bad teams and you all fall for it. And the vikes collaspe.
Joe sensor is embarrassing. He knows nothing. I can't believe anyone listens to this old senile guy talk. Maybe one to many shots to the head. Greg coleman is almost as bad. And I don't think Mike Morris has ever even watched a Football game. He still thinks Rex Grossman is horrible. But Our offensive line would make anyone good. Our Qb's have all the time in the world. these talk show hosts are clueless.

That was a lil off the point. I think its gonna be a good game. And like last year when you play the bears the first to 13 wins. But this year we have an offense and you won't score any more than 13. and the bears are a lil to quick to be beaten by trick plays and field goals.

i predict 31 to 10

I know its early in the season and even us bears fan might be looking through navyblue and orange colored glasses but i see something good in this team this year. Im looking forward to going to this game. Maybe if you were all smart you turn to the blue and orange cause we have Alary's bar in St paul
Cause when we lose, we still win. Girls girls girls. :)


The only reason that Packers had a decently ranked passing d was because they were down almost every game, the opponents just tried to run out the clock.


I agree this a proving game for the Bears, and the vikes alike.

Call me crazy but Carolina's d-line scares me much much more than chi-towns does. IMO Tommie Harris is the only player on that line that impresses me. You don't have a guy like Peppers that is in there every play. Peppers is a freak of nature, and is the best de in the game and disrupted us all game long. We now have pretty even matches across the board when it comes to Vikes O line vs Bears D line instead of a guy that screwed us every play.

To me the "rex express" as my coworker would call him hasn't proved anything, yet. The lions game your guy looked really impressive, but they have no real defense. Also the lions did you guys plenty of favors with turnovers and field position.

Honestly this game is gonna be real good one. Close scores, but low scores. I think this game is capable of going either way, with the edge going to the bears, as they are the better team until proven otherwise. But we are in the dome, where we play our best football. The dome is a really tough place to play for the visitor.

Here's to a clean, injury free game!

Del Rio
09-19-2006, 06:13 AM
"bearsfanmn" wrote:


"sharper42" wrote:


bears havny played anyone this year yet, two 0-2 teams comon. i dont think they are as good as they are supposed to be. regardless, they have a good D. but the vikes have beat 2 playoff teams thus far both teams we beat totaled 21 wins combined last year. the bears have beat two teams that combined 9 wins last year.

















vikes 23 bears 10


And who have the vikes palyed this year. An absolute horrible washington team that won't even make the playoffs? There offense has generated like 20 points over two weeks at most? And missing there starting running back?
A carolina team that was missing two of there best players on defense and offense combined?
Last time I checked both teams they played were also 0 and 2.
Granted the bears have beaten two bad teams. But you forget that last year Green Bays defense was ranked in the top against the pass. And last week everyone was screaming and hollering about how great Detroits defense was against the seattle. But of course when the bears come in and not only beat but obliterate these teams. They are just horrible teams. I accdept that. The Bears have alot to prove this year. And they have done are doing it and will keep on doing it.

But one of my many questions is? The bears this year and last year combined for an average of under 13 points allowed a game. How do you think the vikes are gonna score when they couldn't even do it against Carolina last week? Very similar defenses. But you have one of the best defenseive lines in the leauge coming this week. I think even better than calorlinas. And alot faster. Car had one good guy. We have 3 on our line. Our linebackers will get an interception this week for sure. johnson can't go deep and won't have time.

Next question is how will the vikes defense
stop the bears in their tracks. Maybe you forgot, but the Bears have been running this cover two for 4 years now and gol 'darnit near perfected it. Do you not think that the Bears offense maybe has to play and practice against this defense week in and week out. My guess is they might know the tricks and the scheme to beat it.

The Problem with Minnesota viking football is the media. PA and Dubay and Mike Morris and Joe Sensor have no Idea what they are talking about ever and they instill hope every year to fans that eat it up before they get a chance to see what is before them. last week they were talking on if the vikes would beat carolina then chicago then the week after that there shot for winning the nfc and going to the superbowl would be right in front of them. Idiots. let the games unfold. I have been so irrated by these guys for years. And year after year they pump up bad teams and you all fall for it. And the vikes collaspe.
Joe sensor is embarrassing. He knows nothing. I can't believe anyone listens to this old senile guy talk. Maybe one to many shots to the head. Greg coleman is almost as bad. And I don't think Mike Morris has ever even watched a Football game. He still thinks Rex Grossman is horrible. But Our offensive line would make anyone good. Our Qb's have all the time in the world. these talk show hosts are clueless.

That was a lil off the point. I think its gonna be a good game. And like last year when you play the bears the first to 13 wins. But this year we have an offense and you won't score any more than 13. and the bears are a lil to quick to be beaten by trick plays and field goals.

i predict 31 to 10

I know its early in the season and even us bears fan might be looking through navyblue and orange colored glasses but i see something good in this team this year. Im looking forward to going to this game. Maybe if you were all smart you turn to the blue and orange cause we have Alary's bar in St paul
Cause when we lose, we still win. Girls girls girls. :)


The Redskins weren't missing anyone when we played them. Pretty bold prediction saying they will miss the playoffs after two games. Not to mention they are only one win away from being atop their division. Do you watch football?

The Panthers are 0-2 and part of the reason they are 0-2 is us. Now your wins are against teams that EVERYONE knows suck. There is no need for us to jump to conclusions about your wins, no need to make up statistics or take half truths your team beat teams they were supposed to beat. We didn't.

Twist it anyway you like. Our D is for real, and your offense has not been tested.

Zeus
09-19-2006, 08:45 AM
"Prophet" wrote:


I remember a lot of Vikings vs Bears games on the vibrating football game I had as a kid.
Tough battles.
I also remember freezing my jiggly butt off at the Vikes/Bears games, loved it.

I was like 11 when I entered the local "Pick-The-Games" contest in our town paper.
After I won, they called us, realized that a kid had won the week (and you were supposed to be 16 or 18 to enter, I don't recall) and decided that they'd go ahead and give me the prize - $20.
I used that money to buy my vibrating football game which was the Vikings vs. the Bears.
Many cold afternoons were spent down in the basement, trying to get those sumbitches to run straight rather than in circles and to get the stupid kicker to put the little foam ball through the uprights.

=Z=

Mr. Purple
09-19-2006, 09:08 AM
"Del" wrote:


"bearsfanmn" wrote:


"sharper42" wrote:


bears havny played anyone this year yet, two 0-2 teams comon. i dont think they are as good as they are supposed to be. regardless, they have a good D. but the vikes have beat 2 playoff teams thus far both teams we beat totaled 21 wins combined last year. the bears have beat two teams that combined 9 wins last year.

















vikes 23 bears 10


And who have the vikes palyed this year. An absolute horrible washington team that won't even make the playoffs? There offense has generated like 20 points over two weeks at most? And missing there starting running back?
A carolina team that was missing two of there best players on defense and offense combined?
Last time I checked both teams they played were also 0 and 2.
Granted the bears have beaten two bad teams. But you forget that last year Green Bays defense was ranked in the top against the pass. And last week everyone was screaming and hollering about how great Detroits defense was against the seattle. But of course when the bears come in and not only beat but obliterate these teams. They are just horrible teams. I accdept that. The Bears have alot to prove this year. And they have done are doing it and will keep on doing it.

But one of my many questions is? The bears this year and last year combined for an average of under 13 points allowed a game. How do you think the vikes are gonna score when they couldn't even do it against Carolina last week? Very similar defenses. But you have one of the best defenseive lines in the leauge coming this week. I think even better than calorlinas. And alot faster. Car had one good guy. We have 3 on our line. Our linebackers will get an interception this week for sure. johnson can't go deep and won't have time.

Next question is how will the vikes defense
stop the bears in their tracks. Maybe you forgot, but the Bears have been running this cover two for 4 years now and gol 'darnit near perfected it. Do you not think that the Bears offense maybe has to play and practice against this defense week in and week out. My guess is they might know the tricks and the scheme to beat it.

The Problem with Minnesota viking football is the media. PA and Dubay and Mike Morris and Joe Sensor have no Idea what they are talking about ever and they instill hope every year to fans that eat it up before they get a chance to see what is before them. last week they were talking on if the vikes would beat carolina then chicago then the week after that there shot for winning the nfc and going to the superbowl would be right in front of them. Idiots. let the games unfold. I have been so irrated by these guys for years. And year after year they pump up bad teams and you all fall for it. And the vikes collaspe.
Joe sensor is embarrassing. He knows nothing. I can't believe anyone listens to this old senile guy talk. Maybe one to many shots to the head. Greg coleman is almost as bad. And I don't think Mike Morris has ever even watched a Football game. He still thinks Rex Grossman is horrible. But Our offensive line would make anyone good. Our Qb's have all the time in the world. these talk show hosts are clueless.

That was a lil off the point. I think its gonna be a good game. And like last year when you play the bears the first to 13 wins. But this year we have an offense and you won't score any more than 13. and the bears are a lil to quick to be beaten by trick plays and field goals.

i predict 31 to 10

I know its early in the season and even us bears fan might be looking through navyblue and orange colored glasses but i see something good in this team this year. Im looking forward to going to this game. Maybe if you were all smart you turn to the blue and orange cause we have Alary's bar in St paul
Cause when we lose, we still win. Girls girls girls. :)


The Redskins weren't missing anyone when we played them. Pretty bold prediction saying they will miss the playoffs after two games. Not to mention they are only one win away from being atop their division. Do you watch football?

The Panthers are 0-2 and part of the reason they are 0-2 is us. Now your wins are against teams that EVERYONE knows suck. There is no need for us to jump to conclusions about your wins, no need to make up statistics or take half truths your team beat teams they were supposed to beat. We didn't.

Twist it anyway you like. Our D is for real, and your offense has not been tested.



Exactly Del. To say Chicago's offense isnt good, or productive isnt correct.However they have not tested that offense against a formidible team yet.We are that team.Being a Gators fan, I really dont think Grossman is your future.I never had confidence in him, when he was at Floirda.Wait till he starts making those "Farve like" throws into a real defense.The Pack while ranked highly in pass defense last year, our a complete mess this year.Lets see how many yards Greenbay has given up so far this year....


Week 1 vs Chicago
They gave up 262 yards passing and 1 TD.

Week 2 vs New Orleans
They gave up 353 yards passing and 2 TDs.

So to say they where ranked highly last year, means jack now.Thier a team in a rebuilding, slash noone knows what thier doing mode.


Then you have Detroits scary ole defense.Which is VASTLY being overaited far to fast.They where exposed to your team.

Week 2 vs Detroit
you guys raked up 289 yards and 4 TDs.



So all I'm saying is your offense has yet to play this year a worthy defense.Our team has played against 2 worthy playoff contenders.While both our 0-2, they've lost to OTHER worthy oppents.(ATL,Dal)


This game will be a great game, everybody there better be outta thier minds!

petrodemos
09-19-2006, 09:36 AM
you cant argue that green bay and detroit have better defenses than carolina and washington. pt for vikes

if turnovers are going to decide this game, grossman will make a mistake before brad johnson will. pt for vikes

bears have urlacher, vikes have harris....ok, pt for bears.

so, the vikes win 4-2, two safetys to one. :o

besides, bear fans you can kiss your QB goodbye after this game
:-* crutches i tell ya, crutches. he might break his leg in warmups. ;D

cajunvike
09-19-2006, 10:59 AM
"bearsfanmn" wrote:


"sharper42" wrote:


bears havny played anyone this year yet, two 0-2 teams comon. i dont think they are as good as they are supposed to be. regardless, they have a good D. but the vikes have beat 2 playoff teams thus far both teams we beat totaled 21 wins combined last year. the bears have beat two teams that combined 9 wins last year.

















vikes 23 bears 10


And who have the vikes palyed this year. An absolute horrible washington team that won't even make the playoffs? There offense has generated like 20 points over two weeks at most? And missing there starting running back?
A carolina team that was missing two of there best players on defense and offense combined?
Last time I checked both teams they played were also 0 and 2.
Granted the bears have beaten two bad teams. But you forget that last year Green Bays defense was ranked in the top against the pass. And last week everyone was screaming and hollering about how great Detroits defense was against the seattle. But of course when the bears come in and not only beat but obliterate these teams. They are just horrible teams. I accdept that. The Bears have alot to prove this year. And they have done are doing it and will keep on doing it.

But one of my many questions is? The bears this year and last year combined for an average of under 13 points allowed a game. How do you think the vikes are gonna score when they couldn't even do it against Carolina last week? Very similar defenses. But you have one of the best defenseive lines in the leauge coming this week. I think even better than calorlinas. And alot faster. Car had one good guy. We have 3 on our line. Our linebackers will get an interception this week for sure. johnson can't go deep and won't have time.

Next question is how will the vikes defense
stop the bears in their tracks. Maybe you forgot, but the Bears have been running this cover two for 4 years now and gol 'darnit near perfected it. Do you not think that the Bears offense maybe has to play and practice against this defense week in and week out. My guess is they might know the tricks and the scheme to beat it.

The Problem with Minnesota viking football is the media. PA and Dubay and Mike Morris and Joe Sensor have no Idea what they are talking about ever and they instill hope every year to fans that eat it up before they get a chance to see what is before them. last week they were talking on if the vikes would beat carolina then chicago then the week after that there shot for winning the nfc and going to the superbowl would be right in front of them. Idiots. let the games unfold. I have been so irrated by these guys for years. And year after year they pump up bad teams and you all fall for it. And the vikes collaspe.
Joe sensor is embarrassing. He knows nothing. I can't believe anyone listens to this old senile guy talk. Maybe one to many shots to the head. Greg coleman is almost as bad. And I don't think Mike Morris has ever even watched a Football game. He still thinks Rex Grossman is horrible. But Our offensive line would make anyone good. Our Qb's have all the time in the world. these talk show hosts are clueless.

That was a lil off the point. I think its gonna be a good game. And like last year when you play the bears the first to 13 wins. But this year we have an offense and you won't score any more than 13. and the bears are a lil to quick to be beaten by trick plays and field goals.

i predict 31 to 10

I know its early in the season and even us bears fan might be looking through navyblue and orange colored glasses but i see something good in this team this year. Im looking forward to going to this game. Maybe if you were all smart you turn to the blue and orange cause we have Alary's bar in St paul
Cause when we lose, we still win. Girls girls girls. :)


31-10...what kind of blue and orange glasses are those...nuclear-powered???

Yeah...and we have a different term for the women that you are bragging about at Alary's...dogs dogs dogs!!!
:D

Zeus
09-19-2006, 11:31 AM
"bearsfanmn" wrote:


The Problem with Minnesota viking football is the media. PA and Dubay and Mike Morris and Joe Sensor have no Idea what they are talking about ever and they instill hope every year to fans that eat it up before they get a chance to see what is before them. last week they were talking on if the vikes would beat carolina then chicago then the week after that there shot for winning the nfc and going to the superbowl would be right in front of them. Idiots. let the games unfold. I have been so irrated by these guys for years. And year after year they pump up bad teams and you all fall for it. And the vikes collaspe.
Joe sensor is embarrassing. He knows nothing. I can't believe anyone listens to this old senile guy talk. Maybe one to many shots to the head. Greg coleman is almost as bad. And I don't think Mike Morris has ever even watched a Football game. He still thinks Rex Grossman is horrible. But Our offensive line would make anyone good. Our Qb's have all the time in the world. these talk show hosts are clueless.

Yeah, I can see why you'd think you know more than men who have actually played in the NFL for many years.
Their hours of film study, practice and games clearly is dwarfed by the time you've spent playing Madden and the Mattel Electronic Football game.


=Z=

Del Rio
09-19-2006, 11:45 AM
"AWZeus" wrote:


"bearsfanmn" wrote:


The Problem with Minnesota viking football is the media. PA and Dubay and Mike Morris and Joe Sensor have no Idea what they are talking about ever and they instill hope every year to fans that eat it up before they get a chance to see what is before them. last week they were talking on if the vikes would beat carolina then chicago then the week after that there shot for winning the nfc and going to the superbowl would be right in front of them. Idiots. let the games unfold. I have been so irrated by these guys for years. And year after year they pump up bad teams and you all fall for it. And the vikes collaspe.
Joe sensor is embarrassing. He knows nothing. I can't believe anyone listens to this old senile guy talk. Maybe one to many shots to the head. Greg coleman is almost as bad. And I don't think Mike Morris has ever even watched a Football game. He still thinks Rex Grossman is horrible. But Our offensive line would make anyone good. Our Qb's have all the time in the world. these talk show hosts are clueless.

Yeah, I can see why you'd think you know more than men who have actually played in the NFL for many years.
Their hours of film study, practice and games clearly is dwarfed by the time you've spent playing Madden and the Mattel Electronic Football game.


=Z=


This is coming from a guy who thinks the Panthers only have one good D-lineman......don't set your expectations too high.

PurpleRide
09-19-2006, 12:19 PM
It really is a hard game to predict, the vikings have beat two playoff calibler teams who are 0-2 by a combined score of 6 points, the bears beat up on two 0-2 teams who will not see the playoffs in years.
I think the bears are a better team right now, sunday could change that.
I think the vikings will pull it off, a close 3 point game for the third week in a row.
I wish i could be there watching the 300+ pound bears fans trying to walk up the metrodome steps.
I get a kick out of it every year.
Bears lose by three.

Zeus
09-19-2006, 12:49 PM
"Del" wrote:


This is coming from a guy who thinks the Panthers only have one good D-lineman......don't set your expectations too high.


There's a huge distance between being a fan of your team and being a complete dunderhead.
To single out Mike Morris and Joe Senser is just ridiculous.
Hell - after the game, Morris was all over Bryant McKinnie for his half-assed run-blocking.
Didn't sound like a know-nothing homer to me.

=Z=

ultravikingfan
09-19-2006, 02:03 PM
"bearsfanmn" wrote:


"sharper42" wrote:


bears havny played anyone this year yet, two 0-2 teams comon. i dont think they are as good as they are supposed to be. regardless, they have a good D. but the vikes have beat 2 playoff teams thus far both teams we beat totaled 21 wins combined last year. the bears have beat two teams that combined 9 wins last year.

















vikes 23 bears 10


And who have the vikes palyed this year. An absolute horrible washington team that won't even make the playoffs? There offense has generated like 20 points over two weeks at most? And missing there starting running back?
A carolina team that was missing two of there best players on defense and offense combined?
Last time I checked both teams they played were also 0 and 2.
Granted the bears have beaten two bad teams. But you forget that last year Green Bays defense was ranked in the top against the pass. And last week everyone was screaming and hollering about how great Detroits defense was against the seattle. But of course when the bears come in and not only beat but obliterate these teams. They are just horrible teams. I accdept that. The Bears have alot to prove this year. And they have done are doing it and will keep on doing it.

But one of my many questions is? The bears this year and last year combined for an average of under 13 points allowed a game. How do you think the vikes are gonna score when they couldn't even do it against Carolina last week? Very similar defenses. But you have one of the best defenseive lines in the leauge coming this week. I think even better than calorlinas. And alot faster. Car had one good guy. We have 3 on our line. Our linebackers will get an interception this week for sure. johnson can't go deep and won't have time.

Next question is how will the vikes defense
stop the bears in their tracks. Maybe you forgot, but the Bears have been running this cover two for 4 years now and gol 'darnit near perfected it. Do you not think that the Bears offense maybe has to play and practice against this defense week in and week out. My guess is they might know the tricks and the scheme to beat it.

The Problem with Minnesota viking football is the media. PA and Dubay and Mike Morris and Joe Sensor have no Idea what they are talking about ever and they instill hope every year to fans that eat it up before they get a chance to see what is before them. last week they were talking on if the vikes would beat carolina then chicago then the week after that there shot for winning the nfc and going to the superbowl would be right in front of them. Idiots. let the games unfold. I have been so irrated by these guys for years. And year after year they pump up bad teams and you all fall for it. And the vikes collaspe.
Joe sensor is embarrassing. He knows nothing. I can't believe anyone listens to this old senile guy talk. Maybe one to many shots to the head. Greg coleman is almost as bad. And I don't think Mike Morris has ever even watched a Football game. He still thinks Rex Grossman is horrible. But Our offensive line would make anyone good. Our Qb's have all the time in the world. these talk show hosts are clueless.

That was a lil off the point. I think its gonna be a good game. And like last year when you play the bears the first to 13 wins. But this year we have an offense and you won't score any more than 13. and the bears are a lil to quick to be beaten by trick plays and field goals.

i predict 31 to 10

I know its early in the season and even us bears fan might be looking through navyblue and orange colored glasses but i see something good in this team this year. Im looking forward to going to this game. Maybe if you were all smart you turn to the blue and orange cause we have Alary's bar in St paul
Cause when we lose, we still win. Girls girls girls. :)


Be prepared to be tea bagged by the entire Viking nation!

bearsfanmn
09-19-2006, 04:48 PM
"sharper42" wrote:


"Billy" wrote:


"sharper42" wrote:


bears havny played anyone this year yet, two 0-2 teams comon. i dont think they are as good as they are supposed to be. regardless, they have a good D. but the vikes have beat 2 playoff teams thus far both teams we beat totaled 21 wins combined last year. the bears have beat two teams that combined 9 wins last year.

















vikes 23 bears 10




Ok sorry dude, the vikes are my team and I like to be optomistic but its time to be realistic too.
Both Wash and Carolina were missing their star off. players, and we barely snuck off wins.
Detroit looked pretty good against a very good Seattle last week so you cant the Bears win this week as a walk in the park.

For the Vikes to beat the bears they are definatly gonna have to pick up their game a notch.
I think we can and hopefully we will but I really dont know.
I dont think the bears are overratted iether, I haven't heard a single analyst exhagerate how the good the Bears look.


i do take detroit on the road at chicago a walk in the park for chicago. seattle beat themselves last week missing 2 fg's and alexander fumbled, detroit's defense was supposed to be improved, not really after gettin lit up by grossman for 4 td's?? thats horrible. oh and did you watch football night in america on nbc? collinsworth picked chicago to go to the super bowl!!! thats not exagerating to you????




Or maybe Grossman is good. You ever think about that. Outside of injury has he shown you him being a bad qb? That first year we had him and he got hurt on the touchdown play he was kicking the vikins ass and anyone that watched that game knew that if he would of stayed in the bears would of won. Again you beat two bad bad bad offesive teams and you wont see washington in the top 20 all year on offense.

bearsfanmn
09-19-2006, 04:50 PM
"Prophet" wrote:


I wouldn't be stroking yourself too much.
How about a little reality check: the Bears beat the Packers and Lions.
The Vikings beat two teams picked to be in the playoffs.
Both teams are 2-0, there isn't a reasonable person in the land that would equate the 2-0 records.


You mean one team that won't be in the playoffs. and one team that is in question to be a wildcard. I can tell you that i will win a million bucks in a week but it doesn't make it true.

bearsfanmn
09-19-2006, 04:52 PM
"Del" wrote:


The Bears haven't faced a team that is consistent on offense.

I think 13-3 Vikings sounds good.


And washington and carolina were so consistent hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah!

Slade
09-19-2006, 04:55 PM
"bearsfanmn" wrote:


"Del" wrote:


The Bears haven't faced a team that is consistent on offense.

I think 13-3 Vikings sounds good.


And washington and carolina were so consistent hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah!


- There is a HUGE difference between the Packers & Lions vs. the Skins & Panthers. The 2 teams we played were in the playoffs last year. The 2 you played were in the cellar. We don't make the schedules, we just play the games to win

bearsfanmn
09-19-2006, 04:56 PM
"UndisputedVike" wrote:


"Tbets" wrote:


i am sorry. did you give any kind of reasoning for predicting a big offensive day from the vikings?

do you really think wash. is a playoff team? yikes! that is crazy talk.

I am well aware the bears are not a good offensive team. much like
minnesota. but do you really think the vikes will put up 20+ vs the bears?

That just seems really unlikely. but its football and crazy things happen!


To be quite honest, we beat ourselves if anything the last 2 games, we actually should have lost them both. Due to poor play on both parts we came out the victor, making those mistakes against the Bears will be a no no and we'll pay for it.

But I seriously think the Bears are a little overhyped, they have no running game, Jones was non-exsistant these 2 games and against 2 very suspect rush Defenses. If anyone thinks Grossman throws for 4 TD's in this game is sadly mistaken. I'm not gonna be a homer and predict the Vikings to win like most do, I'll stay optimistic and say I'll wait until the game is done.

Yes, Washington did go to the Playoffs last year if you didn't notice, they gained new weapons on offense and their Defense was top 10 so yeah, a pushover they are not. Right now they just haven't got into a rhythm on offense. Plus Carolina's D-Line is better than the Bear's D-Line to be honest so I don't see them causing as much havoc as Peppers and company did.




We are still a top 10 rushing team and frankly we haven't needed to run the ball. Grossman has not been throwing the ball out of desperation but out of playcalling. This is a different team then you vikes are used to seeing.

We will need to get the running game up and going here eventually. Our offensive line and runningbacks have not changed from last year and we will be in the top 5 like ussual this year. it will come. Our defense may be more complete and scarier than carolinas who was missing there stud middle linebacker which means everything to a team.

bearsfanmn
09-19-2006, 05:03 PM
"NeoVikesTX" wrote:


Bears are always the "regular season" champions.
It's that first playoff game that always gets them.
Teams figure out that they have zero offense and can't play from behind.
Oh yeah, and they actually have to play someone good.


And who would that be?
After week six you will lose the rest of your games as you do EVERY YEAR.

Zeus
09-19-2006, 05:05 PM
"bearsfanmn" wrote:


"NeoVikesTX" wrote:


Bears are always the "regular season" champions.
It's that first playoff game that always gets them.
Teams figure out that they have zero offense and can't play from behind.
Oh yeah, and they actually have to play someone good.


And who would that be?
After week six you will lose the rest of your games as you do EVERY YEAR.


Except last year, when the Vikes went 7-2 in their last nine.

=Z=

bearsfanmn
09-19-2006, 05:09 PM
"tybrones87" wrote:


"bearsfanmn" wrote:


"sharper42" wrote:


bears havny played anyone this year yet, two 0-2 teams comon. i dont think they are as good as they are supposed to be. regardless, they have a good D. but the vikes have beat 2 playoff teams thus far both teams we beat totaled 21 wins combined last year. the bears have beat two teams that combined 9 wins last year.

















vikes 23 bears 10


And who have the vikes palyed this year. An absolute horrible washington team that won't even make the playoffs? There offense has generated like 20 points over two weeks at most? And missing there starting running back?
A carolina team that was missing two of there best players on defense and offense combined?
Last time I checked both teams they played were also 0 and 2.
Granted the bears have beaten two bad teams. But you forget that last year Green Bays defense was ranked in the top against the pass. And last week everyone was screaming and hollering about how great Detroits defense was against the seattle. But of course when the bears come in and not only beat but obliterate these teams. They are just horrible teams. I accdept that. The Bears have alot to prove this year. And they have done are doing it and will keep on doing it.

But one of my many questions is? The bears this year and last year combined for an average of under 13 points allowed a game. How do you think the vikes are gonna score when they couldn't even do it against Carolina last week? Very similar defenses. But you have one of the best defenseive lines in the leauge coming this week. I think even better than calorlinas. And alot faster. Car had one good guy. We have 3 on our line. Our linebackers will get an interception this week for sure. johnson can't go deep and won't have time.

Next question is how will the vikes defense
stop the bears in their tracks. Maybe you forgot, but the Bears have been running this cover two for 4 years now and gol 'darnit near perfected it. Do you not think that the Bears offense maybe has to play and practice against this defense week in and week out. My guess is they might know the tricks and the scheme to beat it.

The Problem with Minnesota viking football is the media. PA and Dubay and Mike Morris and Joe Sensor have no Idea what they are talking about ever and they instill hope every year to fans that eat it up before they get a chance to see what is before them. last week they were talking on if the vikes would beat carolina then chicago then the week after that there shot for winning the nfc and going to the superbowl would be right in front of them. Idiots. let the games unfold. I have been so irrated by these guys for years. And year after year they pump up bad teams and you all fall for it. And the vikes collaspe.
Joe sensor is embarrassing. He knows nothing. I can't believe anyone listens to this old senile guy talk. Maybe one to many shots to the head. Greg coleman is almost as bad. And I don't think Mike Morris has ever even watched a Football game. He still thinks Rex Grossman is horrible. But Our offensive line would make anyone good. Our Qb's have all the time in the world. these talk show hosts are clueless.

That was a lil off the point. I think its gonna be a good game. And like last year when you play the bears the first to 13 wins. But this year we have an offense and you won't score any more than 13. and the bears are a lil to quick to be beaten by trick plays and field goals.

i predict 31 to 10

I know its early in the season and even us bears fan might be looking through navyblue and orange colored glasses but i see something good in this team this year. Im looking forward to going to this game. Maybe if you were all smart you turn to the blue and orange cause we have Alary's bar in St paul
Cause when we lose, we still win. Girls girls girls. :)


The only reason that Packers had a decently ranked passing d was because they were down almost every game, the opponents just tried to run out the clock.


I agree this a proving game for the Bears, and the vikes alike.

Call me crazy but Carolina's d-line scares me much much more than chi-towns does. IMO Tommie Harris is the only player on that line that impresses me. You don't have a guy like Peppers that is in there every play. Peppers is a freak of nature, and is the best de in the game and disrupted us all game long. We now have pretty even matches across the board when it comes to Vikes O line vs Bears D line instead of a guy that screwed us every play.

To me the "rex express" as my coworker would call him hasn't proved anything, yet. The lions game your guy looked really impressive, but they have no real defense. Also the lions did you guys plenty of favors with turnovers and field position.

Honestly this game is gonna be real good one. Close scores, but low scores. I think this game is capable of going either way, with the edge going to the bears, as they are the better team until proven otherwise. But we are in the dome, where we play our best football. The dome is a really tough place to play for the visitor.

Here's to a clean, injury free game!

Even if our line doesn't get to to brad we have linebackers that no on in the league can touch right now. But alex brown and oglunea had 10 plus sacks last year and
harris is a stud. To me that equals more than just one freak player like peppers.


And so is Greenbay. Where everyone picked the packers to upset the bears. To me that is the hardest place to play in the nfl.

Zeus
09-19-2006, 05:13 PM
"bearsfanmn" wrote:

And so is Greenbay. Where everyone picked the packers to upset the bears. To me that is the hardest place to play in the nfl.


I defy you to find ONE SINGLE REPUTABLE EXPERT who picked the Packers to beat the Bears in Week One.

I'll be waiting here.

=Z=

bearsfanmn
09-19-2006, 05:17 PM
"Del" wrote:


"bearsfanmn" wrote:


"sharper42" wrote:


bears havny played anyone this year yet, two 0-2 teams comon. i dont think they are as good as they are supposed to be. regardless, they have a good D. but the vikes have beat 2 playoff teams thus far both teams we beat totaled 21 wins combined last year. the bears have beat two teams that combined 9 wins last year.

















vikes 23 bears 10


And who have the vikes palyed this year. An absolute horrible washington team that won't even make the playoffs? There offense has generated like 20 points over two weeks at most? And missing there starting running back?
A carolina team that was missing two of there best players on defense and offense combined?
Last time I checked both teams they played were also 0 and 2.
Granted the bears have beaten two bad teams. But you forget that last year Green Bays defense was ranked in the top against the pass. And last week everyone was screaming and hollering about how great Detroits defense was against the seattle. But of course when the bears come in and not only beat but obliterate these teams. They are just horrible teams. I accdept that. The Bears have alot to prove this year. And they have done are doing it and will keep on doing it.

But one of my many questions is? The bears this year and last year combined for an average of under 13 points allowed a game. How do you think the vikes are gonna score when they couldn't even do it against Carolina last week? Very similar defenses. But you have one of the best defenseive lines in the leauge coming this week. I think even better than calorlinas. And alot faster. Car had one good guy. We have 3 on our line. Our linebackers will get an interception this week for sure. johnson can't go deep and won't have time.

Next question is how will the vikes defense
stop the bears in their tracks. Maybe you forgot, but the Bears have been running this cover two for 4 years now and gol 'darnit near perfected it. Do you not think that the Bears offense maybe has to play and practice against this defense week in and week out. My guess is they might know the tricks and the scheme to beat it.

The Problem with Minnesota viking football is the media. PA and Dubay and Mike Morris and Joe Sensor have no Idea what they are talking about ever and they instill hope every year to fans that eat it up before they get a chance to see what is before them. last week they were talking on if the vikes would beat carolina then chicago then the week after that there shot for winning the nfc and going to the superbowl would be right in front of them. Idiots. let the games unfold. I have been so irrated by these guys for years. And year after year they pump up bad teams and you all fall for it. And the vikes collaspe.
Joe sensor is embarrassing. He knows nothing. I can't believe anyone listens to this old senile guy talk. Maybe one to many shots to the head. Greg coleman is almost as bad. And I don't think Mike Morris has ever even watched a Football game. He still thinks Rex Grossman is horrible. But Our offensive line would make anyone good. Our Qb's have all the time in the world. these talk show hosts are clueless.

That was a lil off the point. I think its gonna be a good game. And like last year when you play the bears the first to 13 wins. But this year we have an offense and you won't score any more than 13. and the bears are a lil to quick to be beaten by trick plays and field goals.

i predict 31 to 10

I know its early in the season and even us bears fan might be looking through navyblue and orange colored glasses but i see something good in this team this year. Im looking forward to going to this game. Maybe if you were all smart you turn to the blue and orange cause we have Alary's bar in St paul
Cause when we lose, we still win. Girls girls girls. :)


The Redskins weren't missing anyone when we played them. Pretty bold prediction saying they will miss the playoffs after two games. Not to mention they are only one win away from being atop their division. Do you watch football?

The Panthers are 0-2 and part of the reason they are 0-2 is us. Now your wins are against teams that EVERYONE knows suck. There is no need for us to jump to conclusions about your wins, no need to make up statistics or take half truths your team beat teams they were supposed to beat. We didn't.

Twist it anyway you like. Our D is for real, and your offense has not been tested.


There running back portis was at like 70 percent and played like 10 to 15 plays. hardly a complete team.
This is week two. Detroit and greenbay are only twogames from the top of the schedule.hahaha

Have you seen the redskins offense yet this year. its fierce. How many touchdowns? how many filedgoals? shivering I know.

Carolina will be the team and was the team that everyone picks to win the superbowl. How many years have these so called experts nailed it on the head. hmmmmmm. No once that I can remember.

And if these opponest were the worst teams in the leauge then why were they picked to beat the bears both games. Because the bears suck this year all of a sudden.

Twisting it is saying that the bears have the same old offense which sucks. laat year we would of not gotten out of the teens on these teams. this year we obliterated them.

And your D hasn't been tested either. Which Wide reciver for the panthers is so good? Oh yea steve smith. Oh and he was on the bench. So its even down the board.

bearsfanmn
09-19-2006, 05:20 PM
"WilliamsonOfTroy" wrote:


"Del" wrote:


"bearsfanmn" wrote:


"sharper42" wrote:


bears havny played anyone this year yet, two 0-2 teams comon. i dont think they are as good as they are supposed to be. regardless, they have a good D. but the vikes have beat 2 playoff teams thus far both teams we beat totaled 21 wins combined last year. the bears have beat two teams that combined 9 wins last year.

















vikes 23 bears 10


And who have the vikes palyed this year. An absolute horrible washington team that won't even make the playoffs? There offense has generated like 20 points over two weeks at most? And missing there starting running back?
A carolina team that was missing two of there best players on defense and offense combined?
Last time I checked both teams they played were also 0 and 2.
Granted the bears have beaten two bad teams. But you forget that last year Green Bays defense was ranked in the top against the pass. And last week everyone was screaming and hollering about how great Detroits defense was against the seattle. But of course when the bears come in and not only beat but obliterate these teams. They are just horrible teams. I accdept that. The Bears have alot to prove this year. And they have done are doing it and will keep on doing it.

But one of my many questions is? The bears this year and last year combined for an average of under 13 points allowed a game. How do you think the vikes are gonna score when they couldn't even do it against Carolina last week? Very similar defenses. But you have one of the best defenseive lines in the leauge coming this week. I think even better than calorlinas. And alot faster. Car had one good guy. We have 3 on our line. Our linebackers will get an interception this week for sure. johnson can't go deep and won't have time.

Next question is how will the vikes defense
stop the bears in their tracks. Maybe you forgot, but the Bears have been running this cover two for 4 years now and gol 'darnit near perfected it. Do you not think that the Bears offense maybe has to play and practice against this defense week in and week out. My guess is they might know the tricks and the scheme to beat it.

The Problem with Minnesota viking football is the media. PA and Dubay and Mike Morris and Joe Sensor have no Idea what they are talking about ever and they instill hope every year to fans that eat it up before they get a chance to see what is before them. last week they were talking on if the vikes would beat carolina then chicago then the week after that there shot for winning the nfc and going to the superbowl would be right in front of them. Idiots. let the games unfold. I have been so irrated by these guys for years. And year after year they pump up bad teams and you all fall for it. And the vikes collaspe.
Joe sensor is embarrassing. He knows nothing. I can't believe anyone listens to this old senile guy talk. Maybe one to many shots to the head. Greg coleman is almost as bad. And I don't think Mike Morris has ever even watched a Football game. He still thinks Rex Grossman is horrible. But Our offensive line would make anyone good. Our Qb's have all the time in the world. these talk show hosts are clueless.

That was a lil off the point. I think its gonna be a good game. And like last year when you play the bears the first to 13 wins. But this year we have an offense and you won't score any more than 13. and the bears are a lil to quick to be beaten by trick plays and field goals.

i predict 31 to 10

I know its early in the season and even us bears fan might be looking through navyblue and orange colored glasses but i see something good in this team this year. Im looking forward to going to this game. Maybe if you were all smart you turn to the blue and orange cause we have Alary's bar in St paul
Cause when we lose, we still win. Girls girls girls. :)


The Redskins weren't missing anyone when we played them. Pretty bold prediction saying they will miss the playoffs after two games. Not to mention they are only one win away from being atop their division. Do you watch football?

The Panthers are 0-2 and part of the reason they are 0-2 is us. Now your wins are against teams that EVERYONE knows suck. There is no need for us to jump to conclusions about your wins, no need to make up statistics or take half truths your team beat teams they were supposed to beat. We didn't.

Twist it anyway you like. Our D is for real, and your offense has not been tested.



Exactly Del. To say Chicago's offense isnt good, or productive isnt correct.However they have not tested that offense against a formidible team yet.We are that team.Being a Gators fan, I really dont think Grossman is your future.I never had confidence in him, when he was at Floirda.Wait till he starts making those "Farve like" throws into a real defense.The Pack while ranked highly in pass defense last year, our a complete mess this year.Lets see how many yards Greenbay has given up so far this year....


Week 1 vs Chicago
They gave up 262 yards passing and 1 TD.

Week 2 vs New Orleans
They gave up 353 yards passing and 2 TDs.

So to say they where ranked highly last year, means jack now.Thier a team in a rebuilding, slash noone knows what thier doing mode.


Then you have Detroits scary ole defense.Which is VASTLY being overaited far to fast.They where exposed to your team.

Week 2 vs Detroit
you guys raked up 289 yards and 4 TDs.



So all I'm saying is your offense has yet to play this year a worthy defense.Our team has played against 2 worthy playoff contenders.While both our 0-2, they've lost to OTHER worthy oppents.(ATL,Dal)


This game will be a great game, everybody there better be outta thier minds!


its funny. When we talk about the vikings last years teams stats matter.
When we talk about the bears. Last years teams stats don't matter. hmmm makes sense

bearsfanmn
09-19-2006, 05:21 PM
"petrodemos" wrote:


you cant argue that green bay and detroit have better defenses than carolina and washington. pt for vikes

if turnovers are going to decide this game, grossman will make a mistake before brad johnson will. pt for vikes

bears have urlacher, vikes have harris....ok, pt for bears.

so, the vikes win 4-2, two safetys to one. :o

besides, bear fans you can kiss your QB goodbye after this game
:-* crutches i tell ya, crutches. he might break his leg in warmups. ;D


And then we have griese and contine to roll. and you have...............I guess i don't know his name.

bearsfanmn
09-19-2006, 05:23 PM
"cajunvike" wrote:


"bearsfanmn" wrote:


"sharper42" wrote:
[quote]
bears havny played anyone this year yet, two 0-2 teams comon. i dont think they are as good as they are supposed to be. regardless, they have a good D. but the vikes have beat 2 playoff teams thus far both teams we beat totaled 21 wins combined last year. the bears have beat two teams that combined 9 wins last year.

















vikes 23 bears 10
[/quote)
And who have the vikes palyed this year. An absolute horrible washington team that won't even make the playoffs? There offense has generated like 20 points over two weeks at most? And missing there starting running back?
A carolina team that was missing two of there best players on defense and offense combined?
Last time I checked both teams they played were also 0 and 2.
Granted the bears have beaten two bad teams. But you forget that last year Green Bays defense was ranked in the top against the pass. And last week everyone was screaming and hollering about how great Detroits defense was against the seattle. But of course when the bears come in and not only beat but obliterate these teams. They are just horrible teams. I accdept that. The Bears have alot to prove this year. And they have done are doing it and will keep on doing it.

But one of my many questions is? The bears this year and last year combined for an average of under 13 points allowed a game. How do you think the vikes are gonna score when they couldn't even do it against Carolina last week? Very similar defenses. But you have one of the best defenseive lines in the leauge coming this week. I think even better than calorlinas. And alot faster. Car had one good guy. We have 3 on our line. Our linebackers will get an interception this week for sure. johnson can't go deep and won't have time.

Next question is how will the vikes defense
stop the bears in their tracks. Maybe you forgot, but the Bears have been running this cover two for 4 years now and gol 'darnit near perfected it. Do you not think that the Bears offense maybe has to play and practice against this defense week in and week out. My guess is they might know the tricks and the scheme to beat it.

The Problem with Minnesota viking football is the media. PA and Dubay and Mike Morris and Joe Sensor have no Idea what they are talking about ever and they instill hope every year to fans that eat it up before they get a chance to see what is before them. last week they were talking on if the vikes would beat carolina then chicago then the week after that there shot for winning the nfc and going to the superbowl would be right in front of them. Idiots. let the games unfold. I have been so irrated by these guys for years. And year after year they pump up bad teams and you all fall for it. And the vikes collaspe.
Joe sensor is embarrassing. He knows nothing. I can't believe anyone listens to this old senile guy talk. Maybe one to many shots to the head. Greg coleman is almost as bad. And I don't think Mike Morris has ever even watched a Football game. He still thinks Rex Grossman is horrible. But Our offensive line would make anyone good. Our Qb's have all the time in the world. these talk show hosts are clueless.

That was a lil off the point. I think its gonna be a good game. And like last year when you play the bears the first to 13 wins. But this year we have an offense and you won't score any more than 13. and the bears are a lil to quick to be beaten by trick plays and field goals.

i predict 31 to 10

I know its early in the season and even us bears fan might be looking through navyblue and orange colored glasses but i see something good in this team this year. Im looking forward to going to this game. Maybe if you were all smart you turn to the blue and orange cause we have Alary's bar in St paul
Cause when we lose, we still win. Girls girls girls. :)


31-10...what kind of blue and orange glasses are those...nuclear-powered???

Yeah...and we have a different term for the women that you are bragging about at Alary's...dogs dogs dogs!!!
:D


You haven't been there have you.
Stop in sometime. You will see.

bearsfanmn
09-19-2006, 05:24 PM
"AWZeus" wrote:


"bearsfanmn" wrote:


The Problem with Minnesota viking football is the media. PA and Dubay and Mike Morris and Joe Sensor have no Idea what they are talking about ever and they instill hope every year to fans that eat it up before they get a chance to see what is before them. last week they were talking on if the vikes would beat carolina then chicago then the week after that there shot for winning the nfc and going to the superbowl would be right in front of them. Idiots. let the games unfold. I have been so irrated by these guys for years. And year after year they pump up bad teams and you all fall for it. And the vikes collaspe.
Joe sensor is embarrassing. He knows nothing. I can't believe anyone listens to this old senile guy talk. Maybe one to many shots to the head. Greg coleman is almost as bad. And I don't think Mike Morris has ever even watched a Football game. He still thinks Rex Grossman is horrible. But Our offensive line would make anyone good. Our Qb's have all the time in the world. these talk show hosts are clueless.

Yeah, I can see why you'd think you know more than men who have actually played in the NFL for many years.
Their hours of film study, practice and games clearly is dwarfed by the time you've spent playing Madden and the Mattel Electronic Football game.


=Z=


playing 20 years ago is not quite the same as today.
and I am not a maddenite or play electricfootball or whatever the hell you are talking about. And pa and dubay have neer played football.

And I don't care what you say. Sensor has no idea what he is talking about.

bearsfanmn
09-19-2006, 05:27 PM
"Slade" wrote:


"bearsfanmn" wrote:


"Del" wrote:


The Bears haven't faced a team that is consistent on offense.

I think 13-3 Vikings sounds good.


And washington and carolina were so consistent hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah!


- There is a HUGE difference between the Packers & Lions vs. the Skins & Panthers. The 2 teams we played were in the playoffs last year. The 2 you played were in the cellar. We don't make the schedules, we just play the games to win



You hit the nail on the head my friend. LAST YEAR.
pretty sure all teams are different teams this year.

bearsfanmn
09-19-2006, 05:28 PM
"AWZeus" wrote:


"bearsfanmn" wrote:

And so is Greenbay. Where everyone picked the packers to upset the bears. To me that is the hardest place to play in the nfl.


I defy you to find ONE SINGLE REPUTABLE EXPERT who picked the Packers to beat the Bears in Week One.

I'll be waiting here.

=Z=


Mike morris. The fox team was half and half. And one of the mikes from the mike and mike show.

thevikingfan
09-19-2006, 05:42 PM
wow thats 2 out of three mikes! i think you have something there.....vikes 13 bears 10

Slade
09-19-2006, 06:28 PM
"bearsfanmn" wrote:


"NeoVikesTX" wrote:


Bears are always the "regular season" champions.
It's that first playoff game that always gets them.
Teams figure out that they have zero offense and can't play from behind.
Oh yeah, and they actually have to play someone good.


And who would that be?
After week six you will lose the rest of your games as you do EVERY YEAR.

- Hmmm, after losing our starting QB last year, I recall finishing 7-2. I didn't see a late season collapse last year....anyone else?

nephilimstorm
09-19-2006, 06:38 PM
You would think other fans would leave us alone with thier bs about there teams...i think the Bears will lose...by a field goal...low scoring...last fan that came in a Redskinner decided hed talk smack and they beat them in Washington... I can't wait for this game!

cajunvike
09-19-2006, 06:43 PM
"bearsfanmn" wrote:


"cajunvike" wrote:


"bearsfanmn" wrote:


"sharper42" wrote:


bears havny played anyone this year yet, two 0-2 teams comon. i dont think they are as good as they are supposed to be. regardless, they have a good D. but the vikes have beat 2 playoff teams thus far both teams we beat totaled 21 wins combined last year. the bears have beat two teams that combined 9 wins last year.

















vikes 23 bears 10

And who have the vikes palyed this year. An absolute horrible washington team that won't even make the playoffs? There offense has generated like 20 points over two weeks at most? And missing there starting running back?
A carolina team that was missing two of there best players on defense and offense combined?
Last time I checked both teams they played were also 0 and 2.
Granted the bears have beaten two bad teams. But you forget that last year Green Bays defense was ranked in the top against the pass. And last week everyone was screaming and hollering about how great Detroits defense was against the seattle. But of course when the bears come in and not only beat but obliterate these teams. They are just horrible teams. I accdept that. The Bears have alot to prove this year. And they have done are doing it and will keep on doing it.

But one of my many questions is? The bears this year and last year combined for an average of under 13 points allowed a game. How do you think the vikes are gonna score when they couldn't even do it against Carolina last week? Very similar defenses. But you have one of the best defenseive lines in the leauge coming this week. I think even better than calorlinas. And alot faster. Car had one good guy. We have 3 on our line. Our linebackers will get an interception this week for sure. johnson can't go deep and won't have time.

Next question is how will the vikes defense
stop the bears in their tracks. Maybe you forgot, but the Bears have been running this cover two for 4 years now and gol 'darnit near perfected it. Do you not think that the Bears offense maybe has to play and practice against this defense week in and week out. My guess is they might know the tricks and the scheme to beat it.

The Problem with Minnesota viking football is the media. PA and Dubay and Mike Morris and Joe Sensor have no Idea what they are talking about ever and they instill hope every year to fans that eat it up before they get a chance to see what is before them. last week they were talking on if the vikes would beat carolina then chicago then the week after that there shot for winning the nfc and going to the superbowl would be right in front of them. Idiots. let the games unfold. I have been so irrated by these guys for years. And year after year they pump up bad teams and you all fall for it. And the vikes collaspe.
Joe sensor is embarrassing. He knows nothing. I can't believe anyone listens to this old senile guy talk. Maybe one to many shots to the head. Greg coleman is almost as bad. And I don't think Mike Morris has ever even watched a Football game. He still thinks Rex Grossman is horrible. But Our offensive line would make anyone good. Our Qb's have all the time in the world. these talk show hosts are clueless.

That was a lil off the point. I think its gonna be a good game. And like last year when you play the bears the first to 13 wins. But this year we have an offense and you won't score any more than 13. and the bears are a lil to quick to be beaten by trick plays and field goals.

i predict 31 to 10

I know its early in the season and even us bears fan might be looking through navyblue and orange colored glasses but i see something good in this team this year. Im looking forward to going to this game. Maybe if you were all smart you turn to the blue and orange cause we have Alary's bar in St paul
Cause when we lose, we still win. Girls girls girls. :)


31-10...what kind of blue and orange glasses are those...nuclear-powered???

Yeah...and we have a different term for the women that you are bragging about at Alary's...dogs dogs dogs!!!
:D


You haven't been there have you.
Stop in sometime. You will see.


Yeah...all I will see is woofers!!!
Of course, you probably don't mind!
:D

Del Rio
09-19-2006, 06:43 PM
"bearsfanmn" wrote:


"Slade" wrote:


"bearsfanmn" wrote:


"Del" wrote:


The Bears haven't faced a team that is consistent on offense.

I think 13-3 Vikings sounds good.


And washington and carolina were so consistent hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah!


- There is a HUGE difference between the Packers & Lions vs. the Skins & Panthers. The 2 teams we played were in the playoffs last year. The 2 you played were in the cellar. We don't make the schedules, we just play the games to win



You hit the nail on the head my friend. LAST YEAR.
pretty sure all teams are different teams this year.


If you can't tell the difference between the Packers/Lions and the Redskins/Panthers then you don't deserve to watch football. Luckily for you teams like the Bears exsist and apparently there is no IQ requirement to follow them. Maybe you even get a badge to wear around if you have sustained head trauma. Hell you probably look like a general with all your medals.

Come on back after Sunday and someone will help you pry your foot out of your mouth.

nephilimstorm
09-19-2006, 06:46 PM
Lol...that was a good one DELRIO lol

cajunvike
09-19-2006, 06:48 PM
"bearsfanmn" wrote:


"petrodemos" wrote:


you cant argue that green bay and detroit have better defenses than carolina and washington. pt for vikes

if turnovers are going to decide this game, grossman will make a mistake before brad johnson will. pt for vikes

bears have urlacher, vikes have harris....ok, pt for bears.

so, the vikes win 4-2, two safetys to one. :o

besides, bear fans you can kiss your QB goodbye after this game
:-* crutches i tell ya, crutches. he might break his leg in warmups. ;D


And then we have griese and contine to roll. and you have...............I guess i don't know his name.


Brooks Bollinger...who STARTED MORE games than Griese last season!

Tbets
09-19-2006, 06:58 PM
again with Last year?


how did the vikings do the playoffs last year?

what? they didnt make the playoffs? The bears with a rookie QB wont the division and went to the playoffs and the moster powerhouse vikings didnt make the post season?

Shocking!

I would think a NFL superteam like minn. would have at least been in the playoffs? I mean as piss poor as the bears offense was last year, you would think the great purple pride gang could at least get in.

Since people keep bringing up "last year" and the past lets just add this and be done..
I am suprised the
vikes didnt win the superbowl...wait.......the vikes hav NEVER won a superbowl. (that is a shame)

Sunday will be fun to watch. hopefull we can all share the game with some friends and fans of our opponents. IF there is a god, injury prone rexy wil still be standing at the end of the game...

Slade
09-19-2006, 07:01 PM
"Tbets" wrote:


again with Last year?


how did the vikings do the playoffs last year?

what? they didnt make the playoffs? The bears with a rookie QB wont the division and went to the playoffs and the moster powerhouse vikings didnt make the post season?

Shocking!

I would think a NFL superteam like minn. would have at least been in the playoffs? I mean as piss poor as the bears offense was last year, you would think the great purple pride gang could at least get in.

Since people keep bringing up "last year" and the past lets just add this and be done..
I am suprised the
vikes didnt win the superbowl...wait.......the vikes hav NEVER won a superbowl. (that is a shame)

Sunday will be fun to watch. hopefull we can all share the game with some friends and fans of our opponents. IF there is a god, injury prone rexy wil still be standing at the end of the game...



- How many times have the Bears been in the playoffs since 85? Weren't they the doormat in the North for quite some time? The Vikings have never been that crappy on a consistent basis

Del Rio
09-19-2006, 07:05 PM
All that matters is Sunday.


The problem with bringing up last year is somewhere between point A and B Bears fans dropped the ball and figure that the Panthers and the Redskins are trash.

Your logic? They lost to the Vikings they must suck. Our logic they were damn good last year we must be great.

Luckily for both of us Sunday will answer a few questions and regardless of the outcome each side will have to either make excuses and put on the tinted shades or own up to reality.

It's not living in the past. It's trying to grasp for some sort of evidence of the quality of our opponents. 2 games isn't enough to tell anything. Mostly this is for fun if it stops being fun and you feel yourself getting upset then logout.

PacNWVike
09-19-2006, 07:06 PM
"Slade" wrote:


"Tbets" wrote:


again with Last year?


how did the vikings do the playoffs last year?

what? they didnt make the playoffs? The bears with a rookie QB wont the division and went to the playoffs and the moster powerhouse vikings didnt make the post season?

Shocking!

I would think a NFL superteam like minn. would have at least been in the playoffs? I mean as piss poor as the bears offense was last year, you would think the great purple pride gang could at least get in.

Since people keep bringing up "last year" and the past lets just add this and be done..
I am suprised the
vikes didnt win the superbowl...wait.......the vikes hav NEVER won a superbowl. (that is a shame)

Sunday will be fun to watch. hopefull we can all share the game with some friends and fans of our opponents. IF there is a god, injury prone rexy wil still be standing at the end of the game...



- How many times have the Bears been in the playoffs since 85? Weren't they the doormat in the North for quite some time? The Vikings have never been that crappy on a consistent basis


Now now Slade, let's not cloud the issue with facts...
;D

JDogg926
09-19-2006, 07:06 PM
While I could easily see how this could shape up as a 13-10 or 9-6 ball game, I have a feeling it might actually be a high scoring affair.
Possibly each team with a defense and special ams TD.
Also, I think Childress and the offensive coordinator are good at using the D's aggressiveness against them.
It's likely they'll try to stack 8 guys in the box to stop Taylor, and try to make Brad Johnson beat them.
If he can get time, I see us taking a couple deep shots.
Also, a lot of short passes.

All in all, I just hope we win, but as much as I know its more likely we'll see both teams under 20 pts, I somehow have a feeling this is going to be a 24-21 or 27-20 final.

Tbets
09-19-2006, 07:06 PM
Bears have won the divison in

86, 86, 87, 88, 90, 01 and 05

bearsfanmn
09-19-2006, 08:20 PM
"Slade" wrote:


"bearsfanmn" wrote:


"NeoVikesTX" wrote:


Bears are always the "regular season" champions.
It's that first playoff game that always gets them.
Teams figure out that they have zero offense and can't play from behind.
Oh yeah, and they actually have to play someone good.


And who would that be?
After week six you will lose the rest of your games as you do EVERY YEAR.

- Hmmm, after losing our starting QB last year, I recall finishing 7-2. I didn't see a late season collapse last year....anyone else?


And how many playoff teams did you destroy in that 7 and 2??????????????/
How many teams with winning records did you limp past in that 7 and 2?
You shouldn't even count the win over the bears.

bearsfanmn
09-19-2006, 08:25 PM
"Del" wrote:


"bearsfanmn" wrote:


"Slade" wrote:


"bearsfanmn" wrote:


"Del" wrote:


The Bears haven't faced a team that is consistent on offense.

I think 13-3 Vikings sounds good.


And washington and carolina were so consistent hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah!


- There is a HUGE difference between the Packers & Lions vs. the Skins & Panthers. The 2 teams we played were in the playoffs last year. The 2 you played were in the cellar. We don't make the schedules, we just play the games to win



You hit the nail on the head my friend. LAST YEAR.
pretty sure all teams are different teams this year.


If you can't tell the difference between the Packers/Lions and the Redskins/Panthers then you don't deserve to watch football. Luckily for you teams like the Bears exsist and apparently there is no IQ requirement to follow them. Maybe you even get a badge to wear around if you have sustained head trauma. Hell you probably look like a general with all your medals.

Come on back after Sunday and someone will help you pry your foot out of your mouth.


head trauma????/How many years in a row have the vikings destroyed your hopes and dreams? hahah that should say enough. As a bears fan we are realist year in and year out. We haven't had a blackout season like you used to have in the 90's. Your game this week is not even sold out yet. You keep coming back for more pain. You want true fans come to Chicago. We stick by our temas through thick in and thin. Even Green Bay fans are tougher at sticking out through bad temas. That should be emmbarrassing for you. Talk about stupid. You keep believeing what local media tells ya. Your going to the super bowl on the greatest team that was ever put together. Good luck to you.

bearsfanmn
09-19-2006, 08:38 PM
"Del" wrote:


All that matters is Sunday.


The problem with bringing up last year is somewhere between point A and B Bears fans dropped the ball and figure that the Panthers and the Redskins are trash.

Your logic? They lost to the Vikings they must suck. Our logic they were gol 'darnit good last year we must be great.

Luckily for both of us Sunday will answer a few questions and regardless of the outcome each side will have to either make excuses and put on the tinted shades or own up to reality.

It's not living in the past. It's trying to grasp for some sort of evidence of the quality of our opponents. 2 games isn't enough to tell anything. Mostly this is for fun if it stops being fun and you feel yourself getting upset then logout.


Finally a level headed viking fan. But actually I don't think the redskins were a good team last year or this year. There offense was far from great last year and looks the same this year. They barely got in and barely had over a 500 record last year. They had a very good defense though which kept them in it.

But come on this year against the vikings and then this week. There offense looks like anything but intimidating. You don't metion there qb or there broken runningback in any conversation of a great offense.

As for caolina. They do not look like the same team they did last year. Even if you watched the atlanta game week one. There offense was punchless in the night. And it was the exact same last year when Smith was out of the lineup. Just like last year. He is a game changeing player and they will suck on offense until they can open up the game with pass to let there run get going.

I don't care what they did last year. Teams change year in and year out.
Just like Green Bay defense did last year. Good last year bad this year.

and its true. none of us really know how good our teams our. Ecspecially the vikings. We have almost our whole line-up back from last year. You have a whole new team. That is where I give us the edge. Our playbook on offense is finally open. They never had a chance to open it last year becuase we had a rookie qb in. We were playing mallia offense all year.

I do find it odd how everyone goes after Rex though. He has never played a bad bad game. Even in the carolina playoff game it was him that led us to the 21 points and almost brought us back into the game. It was the defense and the corners who lost it for us.

But it will be a good game. I don't think it will be close though. I think it will be a blow out one way or another. The vikes are not going to go through the season winning these hard fought battles at the buzzer. It will wear on them in the end.

bearsfanmn
09-19-2006, 08:48 PM
"Slade" wrote:


"Tbets" wrote:


again with Last year?


how did the vikings do the playoffs last year?

what? they didnt make the playoffs? The bears with a rookie QB wont the division and went to the playoffs and the moster powerhouse vikings didnt make the post season?

Shocking!

I would think a NFL superteam like minn. would have at least been in the playoffs? I mean as piss poor as the bears offense was last year, you would think the great purple pride gang could at least get in.

Since people keep bringing up "last year" and the past lets just add this and be done..
I am suprised the
vikes didnt win the superbowl...wait.......the vikes hav NEVER won a superbowl. (that is a shame)

Sunday will be fun to watch. hopefull we can all share the game with some friends and fans of our opponents. IF there is a god, injury prone rexy wil still be standing at the end of the game...



- How many times have the Bears been in the playoffs since 85? Weren't they the doormat in the North for quite some time? The Vikings have never been that crappy on a consistent basis


Vikings won the division in 89, 92, 94, 98, 2000

not that it even matters.

The bears 85 86 87 88 90 and 2001

again not that it even matters or has any bearing on what is gonna happen on sunday.

sleepagent
09-19-2006, 09:05 PM
IF the BEARS beat the VIKINGS, the rest of the NFL will realize that Chicago is for real.
:)

Del Rio
09-19-2006, 09:28 PM
"bearsfanmn" wrote:


"Del" wrote:


"bearsfanmn" wrote:


"Slade" wrote:


"bearsfanmn" wrote:




The Bears haven't faced a team that is consistent on offense.

I think 13-3 Vikings sounds good.


And washington and carolina were so consistent hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah!


- There is a HUGE difference between the Packers & Lions vs. the Skins & Panthers. The 2 teams we played were in the playoffs last year. The 2 you played were in the cellar. We don't make the schedules, we just play the games to win



You hit the nail on the head my friend. LAST YEAR.
pretty sure all teams are different teams this year.


If you can't tell the difference between the Packers/Lions and the Redskins/Panthers then you don't deserve to watch football. Luckily for you teams like the Bears exsist and apparently there is no IQ requirement to follow them. Maybe you even get a badge to wear around if you have sustained head trauma. Hell you probably look like a general with all your medals.

Come on back after Sunday and someone will help you pry your foot out of your mouth.


head trauma????/How many years in a row have the vikings destroyed your hopes and dreams? hahah that should say enough. As a bears fan we are realist year in and year out. We haven't had a blackout season like you used to have in the 90's. Your game this week is not even sold out yet. You keep coming back for more pain. You want true fans come to Chicago. We stick by our temas through thick in and thin. Even Green Bay fans are tougher at sticking out through bad temas. That should be emmbarrassing for you. Talk about stupid. You keep believeing what local media tells ya. Your going to the super bowl on the greatest team that was ever put together. Good luck to you.


keep talking because every time you do it just gets you closer and closer to that handicapped sticker that you deserve. The Vikings have been destroying my hopes since about 1985 which is about the last time your team was worth a damn. I don't live in Minnesota so I could really care less about blackouts. What does it prove to me that Bears fans sell out the stadium even when they put up a shit product year after year after year? I dont know, you call it loyalty sounds like stupidity to me. Maybe they have to use the time to get away from their hair lipped wives I have no idea.

I've been to chicago plenty of times, true fans? Ok. Whatever you say. Say your superman for all I care how would I know. I mean if you say your superman at least you have the cape you wear with your head gear. FRANKS AND BEANS.......

If history is any indication I should have more hope to go to the superbowl then you we have been there 75% more then you and your Jim Mcmoaner who went to Roy High which is about 10 minutes down the street from me, which I only emphasized so you could get through your foam helmet mommy makes you wear when you go outside
that I live out of state, so I do not listen to LOCAL MEDIA. Seriously are you drunk or are you really really slow?

cajunvike
09-19-2006, 10:28 PM
"bearsfanmn" wrote:


"Slade" wrote:


"bearsfanmn" wrote:


"NeoVikesTX" wrote:


Bears are always the "regular season" champions.
It's that first playoff game that always gets them.
Teams figure out that they have zero offense and can't play from behind.
Oh yeah, and they actually have to play someone good.


And who would that be?
After week six you will lose the rest of your games as you do EVERY YEAR.

- Hmmm, after losing our starting QB last year, I recall finishing 7-2. I didn't see a late season collapse last year....anyone else?


And how many playoff teams did you destroy in that 7 and 2??????????????/
How many teams with winning records did you limp past in that 7 and 2?
You shouldn't even count the win over the bears.

With that logic, you guys are 0-0 this year...since you guys shouldn't even count the wins against the Pukers and Lions THIS YEAR!!!

BTW...how many playoff games did you guys win last season...oh, that's right...NONE!!!
We ended up with better draft position than you guys did, won our last game (and YES we will count it)...while you guys stunk it up against the Panthers!

BUT all that really matters is this Sunday...and the Vikings will surprise you all...and dominate on DEFENSE!

Vikefanman2000
09-19-2006, 10:58 PM
"Del" wrote:



keep talking because every time you do it just gets you closer and closer to that handicapped sticker that you deserve. The Vikings have been destroying my hopes since about 1985 which is about the last time your team was worth a gol 'darnit. I don't live in Minnesota so I could really care less about blackouts. What does it prove to me that Bears fans sell out the stadium even when they put up a pooh product year after year after year? I dont know, you call it loyalty sounds like stupidity to me. Maybe they have to use the time to get away from their hair lipped wives I have no idea.

I've been to chicago plenty of times, true fans? Ok. Whatever you say. Say your superman for all I care how would I know. I mean if you say your superman at least you have the cape you wear with your head gear. FRANKS AND BEANS.......

If history is any indication I should have more hope to go to the superbowl then you we have been there 75% more then you and your Jim Mcmoaner who went to Roy High which is about 10 minutes down the street from me, which I only emphasized so you could get through your foam helmet mommy makes you wear when you go outside
that I live out of state, so I do not listen to LOCAL MEDIA. Seriously are you drunk or are you really really slow?


So, whatcha got against hair lipped wives? (said outloud while holding your nose)
;D

tybrones87
09-19-2006, 11:58 PM
bearsfanmn, how exactly do you know about Minnesota local media? You from here, cuz you kinda contradicted yourself. "You want true fans come to Chicago. We stick by our temas through thick in and thin" it kinda implies you are from chicago yet you know so much about local media, doghouses and minnesota radio. Also being such a big fan of Chicago you should know that Alex Brown had only 6 sacks last year. You think he is good? I ain't buying that especially when our 3rd down only pass rushing end ended up with 7.5

thevikingfan
09-20-2006, 12:20 AM
Bears fans are way to arrogant for me they beat two teams that are gonna have top five picks in the draft this year and they think they are the greatest team on earth and you dare call urselfes realists?The vikes have beaten 2 straight playoff teams from last year and even though we didnt do it in dominating fashion a win against a tough team is a win nonetheless!anyone can beat the packers and lions in fact we swept them both and finished 5-1 in the devision last year if you guys call that an accomplishment then you need some professinal help!You watch ur so called young "supestar" quarterback (based on one game) As soon as he throws a pick which he will do against the vikes u guys are gonna start chanting for greise
being the loyal fans that u are!

Articnv
09-20-2006, 01:24 AM
my pridiction 20 - 13 vikes.



My Reason:

1.
THE MOST IMPORANT ONE
TICE IS
GONE, we cna prepare for games

2.
The vikes had
practice against what i woudl say was the best d line in football.
You guys have no one clsoe to peppers.

3.
Stupid penalities by us in the red zone ie Intetion al gorundign and holding calls
costed us which
wont happen again.

4.
DOme field Advanatge your playign in the loudest stadium in the game.

5.
You
guys played cream puff defnses we played against decent defnse in the 'skins and great defnse
in the panthers.

6.
Ever week we play we click better and better.

7.
We were predicted
to be
win
one if we wer eluck out of the first 3 games in our schedule.

8.
We have a defnse thsi year

9.
We got a
RB
not a RB by commitie

10.
Rex didnt get
much pressure put on at all.

After 10 i will stop

Nooks
09-20-2006, 01:58 AM
Ummm Bears fans are loyal fans? I live in Chicago and the bandwagon here rides through town week by week. Depending on if they win, that wagon is often empty! Wait, if bears fans are so loyal, why is it that they BOO Grossman just weeks ago and now all the sudden he is god? That is not loyality. And no, the bears dont sell out even if they are crap. If they did, I wouldnt be able to get tickets the day of the game! I deal with this crap everyday. All I hear about is 1985. THOSE WHO LIVE IN THE PAST HAVE NO FUTURE! Wanna talk about local media, ASK ME! Its sickening! I was born and raised here and I can count on one hand the amount of games that have been blacked out. This is typical of Bears fans....they heckel and harass. Going to soldier field is a death sentence. I have had beer dumped all over me numerous times, things thrown at me and people actually grabbed me and RIPPED a jersey of mine at one game because they were drunk and obnoxious. I dont say anything and get treated like I am a piece of S**T because I am not a bears fan. Its a requirement to be a bears fan you have to be an A$$!

Prophet
09-20-2006, 05:37 AM
I missed all the action.
It is amazing that the Bears' fans equate two wins over the hapless Lions & Packers to two wins over the Redskins and Panthers.
That alone is enough of a reason to destroy any of their credibility.

Angrybearsfan
09-20-2006, 01:10 PM
If you happen to actually watch both WSH games and both CAR games, you would see that they in no way, shape or form resemble the teams people thought they would be two weeks ago.

WSH has offensive talent, but for whatever reason they simply cannot execute plays.
Portis is the engine to that team and he is out.
Brunell has been horible so far.

Carolina is Steve Smith.
No other player means so much to one team.
Steve Smith is the reason they win football games.
He is out, and they just are not a good offensive football team without him.

Both WSH and CAR have good defensive units, but with their offense playing bad sooner or later they are going to make a mistake.
Both teams had great offenses last year and now they have to figure out how to play with a bad offense.

The Vikings wins have been close.
There were a few plays that were either lucky, or penalties were called upon and your team could very easily be 0-2.
There are no points in either bears games where one play could have changed the outcome.

The Bears dominated both GB and DET in every aspect of the game, you cannot say that about either Viking game.

That doesn't mean the Bears will come in and dominate, but it does mean that they were able to execute their plays, make defensive stops, get tunrovers when they needed to, and score at will.

I dont think there is a credible coach or player in the league who says the Vikings are playing better football than the Bears right now.
That may change or it may not, but the point is the Vikings have to do a lot more to win this game than the Bears do.
Thats not being a homer or overconfidence, just the facts based on the past two games from each team.

I like the new Vikings style of play.
Running the football, clock control, and no mistakes by BJ.
That keeps them in the game.
But the Bears have shown that they will take chances on offense, and they already know how to play like the Vikings.
If it comes down to a slug fest, the Bears are able to play that game.
If the Bears somehow manage to go up by two TDs, are the Vikings able to adjust accordingly and start scoring points?

There is more certainty in the Bears now than the Vikings.
CAR WSH GB and DET are not good teams now, I think they are all 0-2.

Grossman is obviously the key to the Bears success.
He has actually played well in the Dome before.
He was able to drive the ball down field.
The injury may or may not be on his mind.

cajunvike
09-20-2006, 01:23 PM
"Angrybearsfan" wrote:


If you happen to actually watch both WSH games and both CAR games, you would see that they in no way, shape or form resemble the teams people thought they would be two weeks ago.

WSH has offensive talent, but for whatever reason they simply cannot execute plays.
Portis is the engine to that team and he is out.
Brunell has been horible so far.

Carolina is Steve Smith.
No other player means so much to one team.
Steve Smith is the reason they win football games.
He is out, and they just are not a good offensive football team without him.

Both WSH and CAR have good defensive units, but with their offense playing bad sooner or later they are going to make a mistake.
Both teams had great offenses last year and now they have to figure out how to play with a bad offense.

The Vikings wins have been close.
There were a few plays that were either lucky, or penalties were called upon and your team could very easily be 0-2.
There are no points in either bears games where one play could have changed the outcome.

The Bears dominated both GB and DET in every aspect of the game, you cannot say that about either Viking game.

That doesn't mean the Bears will come in and dominate, but it does mean that they were able to execute their plays, make defensive stops, get tunrovers when they needed to, and score at will.

I dont think there is a credible coach or player in the league who says the Vikings are playing better football than the Bears right now.
That may change or it may not, but the point is the Vikings have to do a lot more to win this game than the Bears do.
Thats not being a homer or overconfidence, just the facts based on the past two games from each team.

I like the new Vikings style of play.
Running the football, clock control, and no mistakes by BJ.
That keeps them in the game.
But the Bears have shown that they will take chances on offense, and they already know how to play like the Vikings.
If it comes down to a slug fest, the Bears are able to play that game.
If the Bears somehow manage to go up by two TDs, are the Vikings able to adjust accordingly and start scoring points?

There is more certainty in the Bears now than the Vikings.
CAR WSH GB and DET are not good teams now, I think they are all 0-2.

Grossman is obviously the key to the Bears success.
He has actually played well in the Dome before.
He was able to drive the ball down field.
The injury may or may not be on his mind.





Your offense HASN'T played against a defense of OUR caliber yet...we have already played against at least one (Carolina) and arguably another in Washington.

Get ready to get a whole lot angrier, Angrybearsfan...after we whup dat a$$!!!

Del Rio
09-20-2006, 01:28 PM
"Angrybearsfan" wrote:


If you happen to actually watch both WSH games and both CAR games, you would see that they in no way, shape or form resemble the teams people thought they would be two weeks ago.

WSH has offensive talent, but for whatever reason they simply cannot execute plays.
Portis is the engine to that team and he is out.
Brunell has been horible so far.

Carolina is Steve Smith.
No other player means so much to one team.
Steve Smith is the reason they win football games.
He is out, and they just are not a good offensive football team without him.

Both WSH and CAR have good defensive units, but with their offense playing bad sooner or later they are going to make a mistake.
Both teams had great offenses last year and now they have to figure out how to play with a bad offense.

The Vikings wins have been close.
There were a few plays that were either lucky, or penalties were called upon and your team could very easily be 0-2.
There are no points in either bears games where one play could have changed the outcome.

The Bears dominated both GB and DET in every aspect of the game, you cannot say that about either Viking game.

That doesn't mean the Bears will come in and dominate, but it does mean that they were able to execute their plays, make defensive stops, get tunrovers when they needed to, and score at will.

I dont think there is a credible coach or player in the league who says the Vikings are playing better football than the Bears right now.
That may change or it may not, but the point is the Vikings have to do a lot more to win this game than the Bears do.
Thats not being a homer or overconfidence, just the facts based on the past two games from each team.

I like the new Vikings style of play.
Running the football, clock control, and no mistakes by BJ.
That keeps them in the game.
But the Bears have shown that they will take chances on offense, and they already know how to play like the Vikings.
If it comes down to a slug fest, the Bears are able to play that game.
If the Bears somehow manage to go up by two TDs, are the Vikings able to adjust accordingly and start scoring points?

There is more certainty in the Bears now than the Vikings.
CAR WSH GB and DET are not good teams now, I think they are all 0-2.

Grossman is obviously the key to the Bears success.
He has actually played well in the Dome before.
He was able to drive the ball down field.
The injury may or may not be on his mind.





I can't argue with that logic.

I will say this however. You beat teams you were supposed to beat. We have not. We have beaten teams we were not supposed to beat and instead of that making us good, somehow it means they are bad. Now you tell me how that works?

This is the NFL you get a pat on the back for beating bad teams because we all know, Bears fans and Vikes fans know, you let your guard down in the NFL you get beat even by a bad team. So you get your cudos for doing what you are expected to do. We have gotten nothing for doing the unexpected.

If we win against the Bears it will be unexpected no doubt, but I still don't see us being taken seriously unless we totally mop the floor with you guys, which I think most people will agree is not going to happen. If we win by one score be it a TD, a field goal anything it will not be enough.

So that is why I subscribe to the train of thought that W/L do not matter. What matters is Sunday.

vikinggreg
09-20-2006, 02:20 PM
"Angrybearsfan" wrote:


If you happen to actually watch both WSH games and both CAR games, you would see that they in no way, shape or form resemble the teams people thought they would be two weeks ago.

WSH has offensive talent, but for whatever reason they simply cannot execute plays.
Portis is the engine to that team and he is out.
Brunell has been horible so far.

Carolina is Steve Smith.
No other player means so much to one team.
Steve Smith is the reason they win football games.
He is out, and they just are not a good offensive football team without him.

Both WSH and CAR have good defensive units, but with their offense playing bad sooner or later they are going to make a mistake.
Both teams had great offenses last year and now they have to figure out how to play with a bad offense.

The Vikings wins have been close.
There were a few plays that were either lucky, or penalties were called upon and your team could very easily be 0-2.
There are no points in either bears games where one play could have changed the outcome.

The Bears dominated both GB and DET in every aspect of the game, you cannot say that about either Viking game.

That doesn't mean the Bears will come in and dominate, but it does mean that they were able to execute their plays, make defensive stops, get tunrovers when they needed to, and score at will.

I dont think there is a credible coach or player in the league who says the Vikings are playing better football than the Bears right now.
That may change or it may not, but the point is the Vikings have to do a lot more to win this game than the Bears do.
Thats not being a homer or overconfidence, just the facts based on the past two games from each team.

I like the new Vikings style of play.
Running the football, clock control, and no mistakes by BJ.
That keeps them in the game.
But the Bears have shown that they will take chances on offense, and they already know how to play like the Vikings.
If it comes down to a slug fest, the Bears are able to play that game.
If the Bears somehow manage to go up by two TDs, are the Vikings able to adjust accordingly and start scoring points?

There is more certainty in the Bears now than the Vikings.
CAR WSH GB and DET are not good teams now, I think they are all 0-2.

Grossman is obviously the key to the Bears success.
He has actually played well in the Dome before.
He was able to drive the ball down field.
The injury may or may not be on his mind.





Washington’s offensive problems could have something to do with us having an improved defense, coverage from the linebackers has stepped up and TE’s didn’t kill us like last year like the Ravens and Steelers game.

As far as the Vikings winning due to luck penalties, I know the ref’s have new uniforms but they still throw the red laundry and the Vikes had more than a few red zone flags cost them points.
If anything this is the one area I’m concerned about this Sunday against the Bears.

Angrybearsfan
09-20-2006, 02:42 PM
No, WSH offense problems are not a result of the Vikings defense.
They demonstrated no ability to move the ball in camp, pre-season, or either regular season game.
Yes the Vikings have a better Defense but thats not the main reason.
For whatever reason, they just cannot execute their plays and they haven't been able to since last year.

Carolina is the in the same boat without Steve Smith.
It is amazing the effect one player has on an offense, but there it is.
Without him playing, they are a different team.

The Bears, for whatever reason, have been clicking on offense.
Both GB and DET have failed to get to Grossman and I give all the credit to the Bears O-Line.
Both teams have some good players on their line.


Grossman's short to mid passing game has been great so far, picking apart the defensive secondary which for GB is their strength and for DET is a big glaring weakness.

The Vikings strength is their D-Line.
But dont discount the bears ability to protect on passing situations.
The Bears are not the Colts and no one is sonfusing them....but you have to admit they are not getting lucky on offense.
There is a definate improvement there on all three levels of offense, blocking receiving and QBing.
It has taken a LONG time to get to this point, but it seems that they are finally getting out of first gear with the passing game.

The running game has yet to be effective.
They have made some plays and they have been up by a bunch of points so that may have something to do with it.
This is probably not the game to try to run up the middle against the Vikings D-Line.

I think the Vikings players are thinking that the sole reason why Grossman has been effective is because of the two defenses he has faced, and I am telling you thats only a small part of the reason.
Watch all of his passes (youtube has them) and look at the accuracy and him being able to hit his receivers in stride as well as the pass protection.


One of the Vikings said something like "thats not against us, not against us" when asked about the Bears ability to move the ball with the pass.
Obviously he isnt going to say his secondary sucks, but I get the feeling that they are going into the game thinking that they will be playing the usual Bears.

Anyway, its gonna be a fun game to watch.
I think the Bears have a slight edge in that they can play both styles of play.
Home Field advantage is big for the Vikings, and it will be interesting to see how Grossman fares against his old nemesis, the turf.

thevikingfan
09-20-2006, 02:50 PM
You say the bears have taken chances on offense but so have the vikings we have thown the deep ball we took a chance on a fake field goal that basicly win the game for us in carolina!The lions are a terrible team to let up 50 yard touchdowns when there was no reason to!The lions were stuffing the running game chicago was averaging like 2 yards a carry and instead of taking people out of the box and playing coverage they get completely fooled by a play action pass and let the reciever run completely past them.When ur already stuffing the run u dont put 8 in the box and give up big passes!The vikings are a better defense than people think and i belive they will surprise the bears this sunday

faninhuskerhell
09-20-2006, 02:52 PM
SKOL VIKINGS

Yeah, lets tear the bbbbbears a new one!!!
Cant wait to see Grossman writhing in pain, a victim of yet another VIKING DEFENSIVE BUTT WHIPPING!!!
And Urlacher cryin' on the sidelines cause he can't understand why he sucks!!
Yeah, the NFC North is home to two of the worst, and two of the best, and after Sunday we all know who will be left undefeated.
THE MIGHTY VIKINGS!!!

Slade
09-20-2006, 02:55 PM
Bottom line, the Bears QB is Rex Grossman. He is not the end all-be all savior of the Bears. Its that D & a good running game. Grossman has played in, what like 8-10 games over a 3 year period? He's basically a rookie. Better than Orton, but he's not all that. If the Bears D was average, the would finish 4-12 or close to it. This Sunday will be a good test for our Vikes & I hope they do well. Good luck to the Bears fans, & I made a wager with a buddy (Bears fan), Rex will not last past week 10

bearsfanmn
09-20-2006, 02:57 PM
"Del" wrote:


"bearsfanmn" wrote:


"Del" wrote:


"bearsfanmn" wrote:


"Slade" wrote:






The Bears haven't faced a team that is consistent on offense.

I think 13-3 Vikings sounds good.




And washington and carolina were so consistent hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah!


- There is a HUGE difference between the Packers & Lions vs. the Skins & Panthers. The 2 teams we played were in the playoffs last year. The 2 you played were in the cellar. We don't make the schedules, we just play the games to win



You hit the nail on the head my friend. LAST YEAR.
pretty sure all teams are different teams this year.


If you can't tell the difference between the Packers/Lions and the Redskins/Panthers then you don't deserve to watch football. Luckily for you teams like the Bears exsist and apparently there is no IQ requirement to follow them. Maybe you even get a badge to wear around if you have sustained head trauma. Hell you probably look like a general with all your medals.

Come on back after Sunday and someone will help you pry your foot out of your mouth.


head trauma????/How many years in a row have the vikings destroyed your hopes and dreams? hahah that should say enough. As a bears fan we are realist year in and year out. We haven't had a blackout season like you used to have in the 90's. Your game this week is not even sold out yet. You keep coming back for more pain. You want true fans come to Chicago. We stick by our temas through thick in and thin. Even Green Bay fans are tougher at sticking out through bad temas. That should be emmbarrassing for you. Talk about stupid. You keep believeing what local media tells ya. Your going to the super bowl on the greatest team that was ever put together. Good luck to you.


keep talking because every time you do it just gets you closer and closer to that handicapped sticker that you deserve. The Vikings have been destroying my hopes since about 1985 which is about the last time your team was worth a gol 'darnit. I don't live in Minnesota so I could really care less about blackouts. What does it prove to me that Bears fans sell out the stadium even when they put up a pooh product year after year after year? I dont know, you call it loyalty sounds like stupidity to me. Maybe they have to use the time to get away from their hair lipped wives I have no idea.

I've been to chicago plenty of times, true fans? Ok. Whatever you say. Say your superman for all I care how would I know. I mean if you say your superman at least you have the cape you wear with your head gear. FRANKS AND BEANS.......

If history is any indication I should have more hope to go to the superbowl then you we have been there 75% more then you and your Jim Mcmoaner who went to Roy High which is about 10 minutes down the street from me, which I only emphasized so you could get through your foam helmet mommy makes you wear when you go outside
that I live out of state, so I do not listen to LOCAL MEDIA. Seriously are you drunk or are you really really slow?


i guess i should have used my superman abilities to know you don't live in minnesota. Since this was the first you stated it.

And Not that it matters who cares how many tiems you have been there. It doesn't matter. Put your drool cup down and realise what we are talking about.

if you could read. which now I am having my doubts. You were talking about smarts on football teams. And my guess on your fantasy team you picked up some of the players on the carolina panthers and washington squads becuase they are a power house? Ha ha ha. Looks like you wn't be winnning your league.

As Bears fan we dont start out evey year with doubts on our team and then after 3 weeks of winning put our teams in the superbowl. Only to lose and not make the playoffs. Every year. It has happened every year since I have moved here the last 10 years. Its funny. As bears fan we look what we have and route for it till the end. Even the year we played in Champign are crowds were immpressive and we were foar from good. Vikings fans are babies for the m ost part and expect everything now now now. You don't realsie that there is such a thing as development and it could take a few years to build something. and that it is ok to not be the best becuase if you were the best every year the league would get boring in hurry.

And I think the only ass on here is the one who came out throwing insults around like a 15 year old. I was just poking a good opponet in the side for some good natured rivalry fun. So maybe the only window licker in here is you. The rest of us were not being mean spirited. but I will go a few rounds with you if you want.

bearsfanmn
09-20-2006, 03:01 PM
"cajunvike" wrote:


"bearsfanmn" wrote:


"Slade" wrote:


"bearsfanmn" wrote:


"NeoVikesTX" wrote:


Bears are always the "regular season" champions.
It's that first playoff game that always gets them.
Teams figure out that they have zero offense and can't play from behind.
Oh yeah, and they actually have to play someone good.


And who would that be?
After week six you will lose the rest of your games as you do EVERY YEAR.

- Hmmm, after losing our starting QB last year, I recall finishing 7-2. I didn't see a late season collapse last year....anyone else?


And how many playoff teams did you destroy in that 7 and 2??????????????/
How many teams with winning records did you limp past in that 7 and 2?
You shouldn't even count the win over the bears.

With that logic, you guys are 0-0 this year...since you guys shouldn't even count the wins against the Pukers and Lions THIS YEAR!!!

BTW...how many playoff games did you guys win last season...oh, that's right...NONE!!!
We ended up with better draft position than you guys did, won our last game (and YES we will count it)...while you guys stunk it up against the Panthers!

BUT all that really matters is this Sunday...and the Vikings will surprise you all...and dominate on DEFENSE!


We lost. it was a great game. Wish you could of been there. Instead you have a draft pick. That is injuered for the season with an injury that has been know to reaccure on your crappy field turf.

I assure you if you ask any vikings player if he would of traded not going to a playoff game
for going to a playoff game and losing that they would choose going and losing every time.

nice logic, but you fall short.

Oh and the bears will dominate on offense!


And I never said that the bears played great teams. They played bad teams. And dominated. And the vikings played bad teams and barely won.

Slade
09-20-2006, 03:01 PM
I don't see anyone predicting the Vikes to win the SB & be completely serious. Of course we feel that way because we are all die hard fans. Even if Minny was 0-2, we would still think positive. The Bears are a good team, no doubt about that. Are they the best? No, I don't think so. I would take a team like the Ravens before the Bears with a great D & decent offense. Good luck to you on sunday & may the better team win. Hopefully the ref's won't help (like Steelers in the SB) & we can all have fun

bearsfanmn
09-20-2006, 03:04 PM
"tybrones87" wrote:


bearsfanmn, how exactly do you know about Minnesota local media? You from here, cuz you kinda contradicted yourself. "You want true fans come to Chicago. We stick by our temas through thick in and thin" it kinda implies you are from chicago yet you know so much about local media, doghouses and minnesota radio. Also being such a big fan of Chicago you should know that Alex Brown had only 6 sacks last year. You think he is good? I ain't buying that especially when our 3rd down only pass rushing end ended up with 7.5



How many sacks did the rest of the line have????? one player is not a team.

And yes I have said it in the past. I live in Minneapolis now. Why would I hide it? And I like the second half of kfan alot, but the first half drives me crazy. danny b hartman and common all seem to get it and the rest seem to fill the rest of you with hopes and dreams and never come through on there predictions.

Slade
09-20-2006, 03:05 PM
"bearsfanmn" wrote:


"cajunvike" wrote:


"bearsfanmn" wrote:


"Slade" wrote:


"bearsfanmn" wrote:




Bears are always the "regular season" champions.
It's that first playoff game that always gets them.
Teams figure out that they have zero offense and can't play from behind.
Oh yeah, and they actually have to play someone good.


And who would that be?
After week six you will lose the rest of your games as you do EVERY YEAR.

- Hmmm, after losing our starting QB last year, I recall finishing 7-2. I didn't see a late season collapse last year....anyone else?


And how many playoff teams did you destroy in that 7 and 2??????????????/
How many teams with winning records did you limp past in that 7 and 2?
You shouldn't even count the win over the bears.

With that logic, you guys are 0-0 this year...since you guys shouldn't even count the wins against the Pukers and Lions THIS YEAR!!!

BTW...how many playoff games did you guys win last season...oh, that's right...NONE!!!
We ended up with better draft position than you guys did, won our last game (and YES we will count it)...while you guys stunk it up against the Panthers!

BUT all that really matters is this Sunday...and the Vikings will surprise you all...and dominate on DEFENSE!


We lost. it was a great game. Wish you could of been there. Instead you have a draft pick. That is injuered for the season with an injury that has been know to reaccure on your crappy field turf.

I assure you if you ask any vikings player if he would of traded not going to a playoff game
for going to a playoff game and losing that they would choose going and losing every time.

nice logic, but you fall short.

Oh and the bears will dominate on offense!


And I never said that the bears played great teams. They played bad teams. And dominated. And the vikings played bad teams and barely won.


- Other than the Steve Smith injury, what has changed about the Skins & Panthers team from last year? Did someone significant leave? I thought the Skins had the best offseason (according to ESPN, SI & Fox Sports). Yeah, the Panthers missed Smith, injuires happen. It takes 53 guys to win a game. But I don't see how the teams we played were bad. If the Skins & Panthers beat us, you would say they were good. Since we won, they suck. I don't get it

Del Rio
09-20-2006, 03:09 PM
"bearsfanmn" wrote:


"Del" wrote:


"bearsfanmn" wrote:


"Del" wrote:


"bearsfanmn" wrote:








The Bears haven't faced a team that is consistent on offense.

I think 13-3 Vikings sounds good.




And washington and carolina were so consistent hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah!


- There is a HUGE difference between the Packers & Lions vs. the Skins & Panthers. The 2 teams we played were in the playoffs last year. The 2 you played were in the cellar. We don't make the schedules, we just play the games to win



You hit the nail on the head my friend. LAST YEAR.
pretty sure all teams are different teams this year.


If you can't tell the difference between the Packers/Lions and the Redskins/Panthers then you don't deserve to watch football. Luckily for you teams like the Bears exsist and apparently there is no IQ requirement to follow them. Maybe you even get a badge to wear around if you have sustained head trauma. Hell you probably look like a general with all your medals.

Come on back after Sunday and someone will help you pry your foot out of your mouth.


head trauma????/How many years in a row have the vikings destroyed your hopes and dreams? hahah that should say enough. As a bears fan we are realist year in and year out. We haven't had a blackout season like you used to have in the 90's. Your game this week is not even sold out yet. You keep coming back for more pain. You want true fans come to Chicago. We stick by our temas through thick in and thin. Even Green Bay fans are tougher at sticking out through bad temas. That should be emmbarrassing for you. Talk about stupid. You keep believeing what local media tells ya. Your going to the super bowl on the greatest team that was ever put together. Good luck to you.


keep talking because every time you do it just gets you closer and closer to that handicapped sticker that you deserve. The Vikings have been destroying my hopes since about 1985 which is about the last time your team was worth a gol 'darnit. I don't live in Minnesota so I could really care less about blackouts. What does it prove to me that Bears fans sell out the stadium even when they put up a pooh product year after year after year? I dont know, you call it loyalty sounds like stupidity to me. Maybe they have to use the time to get away from their hair lipped wives I have no idea.

I've been to chicago plenty of times, true fans? Ok. Whatever you say. Say your superman for all I care how would I know. I mean if you say your superman at least you have the cape you wear with your head gear. FRANKS AND BEANS.......

If history is any indication I should have more hope to go to the superbowl then you we have been there 75% more then you and your Jim Mcmoaner who went to Roy High which is about 10 minutes down the street from me, which I only emphasized so you could get through your foam helmet mommy makes you wear when you go outside
that I live out of state, so I do not listen to LOCAL MEDIA. Seriously are you drunk or are you really really slow?


i guess i should have used my superman abilities to know you don't live in minnesota. Since this was the first you stated it.

And Not that it matters who cares how many tiems you have been there. It doesn't matter. Put your drool cup down and realise what we are talking about.

if you could read. which now I am having my doubts. You were talking about smarts on football teams. And my guess on your fantasy team you picked up some of the players on the carolina panthers and washington squads becuase they are a power house? Ha ha ha. Looks like you wn't be winnning your league.

As Bears fan we dont start out evey year with doubts on our team and then after 3 weeks of winning put our teams in the superbowl. Only to lose and not make the playoffs. Every year. It has happened every year since I have moved here the last 10 years. Its funny. As bears fan we look what we have and route for it till the end. Even the year we played in Champign are crowds were immpressive and we were foar from good. Vikings fans are babies for the m ost part and expect everything now now now. You don't realsie that there is such a thing as development and it could take a few years to build something. and that it is ok to not be the best becuase if you were the best every year the league would get boring in hurry.

And I think the only jiggly butt on here is the one who came out throwing insults around like a 15 year old. I was just poking a good opponet in the side for some good natured rivalry fun. So maybe the only window licker in here is you. The rest of us were not being mean spirited. but I will go a few rounds with you if you want.


No I didn't tell you once I told you three times. Your post history doesn't lie. So stop playing the victim and get over yourself.

My ability to read is not in question when your all over the place with your logic. Please turn off spongebob and focus for a minute before you type next time.

Like I said in another thread where you tried to respond to me but couldn't quite pull it off. Come back after Sunday and someone will help you pull your foot out of your mouth.

thevikingfan
09-20-2006, 03:13 PM
I highly doubt the bears will dominte on offense!nothing pisses me off that obnoxious fans!You have no proof that u are good on offense!You beat the packers 26-0 ok u scored 1 touchdown on offense one on special teams and 4 field goal.U scored 1 touchdown against a team that let up 34 points to the SAINTS!

bearsfanmn
09-20-2006, 03:13 PM
"thevikingfan" wrote:


Bears fans are way to arrogant for me they beat two teams that are gonna have top five picks in the draft this year and they think they are the greatest team on earth and you dare call urselfes realists?The vikes have beaten 2 straight playoff teams from last year and even though we didnt do it in dominating fashion a win against a tough team is a win nonetheless!anyone can beat the packers and lions in fact we swept them both and finished 5-1 in the devision last year if you guys call that an accomplishment then you need some professinal help!You watch ur so called young "supestar" quarterback (based on one game) As soon as he throws a pick which he will do against the vikes u guys are gonna start chanting for greise
being the loyal fans that u are!


i never said we were the greatest team. We have alot to work on to be one of the upper eschalon teams. Are run game is super struggling right now. We still need to get our secondary tested. I think we have one
of the best in the leagues but carolina exposed us last year. But we play in a horse crap division. So I call it as I see it.

And again I don't care who made the playoffs last year. THAT DOES NOT MEAN THEY ARE GOOD THIS YEAR! With that logic the same teams would be in the playoffs every year.

And I didn't call that an accomplishemnet you sweeping them last year. In fact they were part of your 7 and 2 run that you all pump up to be something amazing. Two wins against the lions and a win at green bay and a win agaisnt the bears 3 stringers was not impressive to me. But again last year does not matter. We are in the now.

Griese is a backup and should remain a backup. and grossman has already thrown an interception. All players are not perfect. I have been a grossman supporter from the beginning. But at least we have a solid backup that can fill in if he is hurt or gets hurt. You say that like its a bad thing. I like to call it "depth". and its based off Two games. And what spark he showed last year in the playoff game and at atlanta. He played very well in those games.

Vikes_King
09-20-2006, 03:15 PM
the first page was all i read about this thread and im glad, im sure the other 17 pages are back and forth argueing over possibilities and last season stuff.

my imput on the situation is this: both teams are 2-0 and tied for the division, the bears so far have looked much better than last year on offense, and the vikings have looked much better on defense - the bears defense is as good as last.

however, the bears offense i believe is over-exaggerated by the media/fans atm, having played two of last years bottom dwellers, Grossman will not have those same numbers vs. a quality secondary.

if the bears are to win this game, they have to play like last year, a strong running game and a solid D.
but if they run like they did vs the packers/lions, dont count on that happening.
if the vikes can stuff the run, and only have to worry about your passing game.. winfield/smoot/sharper/smith will be all over you.,

if the vikings are to win, they will have to continue their strong defensive play and consistancy with the run they've shown against two 2005 playoff teams.
however, with the talent of the bears D, the vikings players will have to play with their heads in the game, and not give up stupid mistakes on penalties, ecspecially in the redzone

will be a close game, and i dont see either team scoring over 17 points.

my view from both sides =P

Tbets
09-20-2006, 03:19 PM
nice post and well said VK.

bearsfanmn
09-20-2006, 03:21 PM
"Articnv" wrote:


my pridiction 20 - 13 vikes.



My Reason:

1.
THE MOST IMPORANT ONE
TICE IS
GONE, we cna prepare for games

Good poiunt. He ruined your team.

2.
The vikes had

practice against what i woudl say was the best d line in football.

You guys have no one clsoe to peppers.

They were a top D line last year. The bears also have one of the top defensive line with 3 pro bowlers. We don't have a peppers that is true.

3.
Stupid penalities by us in the red zone ie Intetion al gorundign and holding calls
costed us which
wont happen again.

Penalties are penalties they are gonna happen in every game.


4.
DOme field Advanatge your playign in the loudest stadium in the game.

You do have home field advantage.

5.
You
guys played cream puff defnses we played against decent defnse in the 'skins and great defnse
in the panthers.

You played cream puff offenses.

6.
Ever week we play we click better and better.


And we don't?????/

7.
We were predicted
to be
win
one if we wer eluck out of the first 3 games in our schedule.

You also played two bad teams.



8.

We have a defnse thsi year

We have always had a defense and will be in the top 3 at the end of the year. As usual.

9.
We got a
RB
not a RB by commitie


Your running back is still very unproven.
And we have a a 1000 yarder from last year when we had no pass attack.

10.
Rex didnt get
much pressure put on at all.

We have one of the top offesive lines in the league. And he throws quick passes. He hasn't been sacked this year. At least I don't recall it. (maybe once)

After 10 i will stop


I would like you to keep going this is fun.




My Reason:

1.
THE MOST IMPORANT ONE
TICE IS
GONE, we cna prepare for games



2.
The vikes had

practice against what i woudl say was the best d line in football.

You guys have no one clsoe to peppers.



3.
Stupid penalities by us in the red zone ie Intetion al gorundign and holding calls
costed us which
wont happen again.




4.
DOme field Advanatge your playign in the loudest stadium in the game.


5.
You
guys played cream puff defnses we played against decent defnse in the 'skins and great defnse
in the panthers.



6.
Ever week we play we click better and better.




7.
We were predicted
to be
win
one if we wer eluck out of the first 3 games in our schedule.





8.

We have a defnse thsi year


9.
We got a
RB
not a RB by commitie




10.
Rex didnt get
much pressure put on at all.


After 10 i will stop


I would like you to keep going this is fun.

Del Rio
09-20-2006, 03:23 PM
"bearsfanmn" wrote:


"Articnv" wrote:


my pridiction 20 - 13 vikes.



My Reason:

1.
THE MOST IMPORANT ONE
TICE IS
GONE, we cna prepare for games

Good poiunt. He ruined your team.

2.
The vikes had

practice against what i woudl say was the best d line in football.

You guys have no one clsoe to peppers.

They were a top D line last year. The bears also have one of the top defensive line with 3 pro bowlers. We don't have a peppers that is true.

3.
Stupid penalities by us in the red zone ie Intetion al gorundign and holding calls
costed us which
wont happen again.

Penalties are penalties they are gonna happen in every game.


4.
DOme field Advanatge your playign in the loudest stadium in the game.

You do have home field advantage.

5.
You
guys played cream puff defnses we played against decent defnse in the 'skins and great defnse
in the panthers.

You played cream puff offenses.

6.
Ever week we play we click better and better.


And we don't?????/

7.
We were predicted
to be
win
one if we wer eluck out of the first 3 games in our schedule.

You also played two bad teams.



8.

We have a defnse thsi year

We have always had a defense and will be in the top 3 at the end of the year. As usual.

9.
We got a
RB
not a RB by commitie


Your running back is still very unproven.
And we have a a 1000 yarder from last year when we had no pass attack.

10.
Rex didnt get
much pressure put on at all.

We have one of the top offesive lines in the league. And he throws quick passes. He hasn't been sacked this year. At least I don't recall it. (maybe once)

After 10 i will stop


I would like you to keep going this is fun.




My Reason:

1.
THE MOST IMPORANT ONE
TICE IS
GONE, we cna prepare for games



2.
The vikes had

practice against what i woudl say was the best d line in football.

You guys have no one clsoe to peppers.



3.
Stupid penalities by us in the red zone ie Intetion al gorundign and holding calls
costed us which
wont happen again.




4.
DOme field Advanatge your playign in the loudest stadium in the game.


5.
You
guys played cream puff defnses we played against decent defnse in the 'skins and great defnse
in the panthers.



6.
Ever week we play we click better and better.




7.
We were predicted
to be
win
one if we wer eluck out of the first 3 games in our schedule.





8.

We have a defnse thsi year


9.
We got a
RB
not a RB by commitie




10.
Rex didnt get
much pressure put on at all.


After 10 i will stop


I would like you to keep going this is fun.


What in the sam hell did you do? I don't think I have ever seen a quote so fuckered up
:P

bearsfanmn
09-20-2006, 03:27 PM
"Angrybearsfan" wrote:


If you happen to actually watch both WSH games and both CAR games, you would see that they in no way, shape or form resemble the teams people thought they would be two weeks ago.

WSH has offensive talent, but for whatever reason they simply cannot execute plays.
Portis is the engine to that team and he is out.
Brunell has been horible so far.

Carolina is Steve Smith.
No other player means so much to one team.
Steve Smith is the reason they win football games.
He is out, and they just are not a good offensive football team without him.

Both WSH and CAR have good defensive units, but with their offense playing bad sooner or later they are going to make a mistake.
Both teams had great offenses last year and now they have to figure out how to play with a bad offense.

The Vikings wins have been close.
There were a few plays that were either lucky, or penalties were called upon and your team could very easily be 0-2.
There are no points in either bears games where one play could have changed the outcome.

The Bears dominated both GB and DET in every aspect of the game, you cannot say that about either Viking game.

That doesn't mean the Bears will come in and dominate, but it does mean that they were able to execute their plays, make defensive stops, get tunrovers when they needed to, and score at will.

I dont think there is a credible coach or player in the league who says the Vikings are playing better football than the Bears right now.
That may change or it may not, but the point is the Vikings have to do a lot more to win this game than the Bears do.
Thats not being a homer or overconfidence, just the facts based on the past two games from each team.

I like the new Vikings style of play.
Running the football, clock control, and no mistakes by BJ.
That keeps them in the game.
But the Bears have shown that they will take chances on offense, and they already know how to play like the Vikings.
If it comes down to a slug fest, the Bears are able to play that game.
If the Bears somehow manage to go up by two TDs, are the Vikings able to adjust accordingly and start scoring points?

There is more certainty in the Bears now than the Vikings.
CAR WSH GB and DET are not good teams now, I think they are all 0-2.

Grossman is obviously the key to the Bears success.
He has actually played well in the Dome before.
He was able to drive the ball down field.
The injury may or may not be on his mind.





Very nice well thought out post. I aggree whole heartedly. With everything said.

slavinator
09-20-2006, 03:28 PM
Lets all have a reality check.
Bears fans are D#$KS!
Always have been.
You do have a good team Chicago, so does Minnesota.
I always have had a major hatred toward the Packers, but I never used to hate the Bears. Why cant these Chicago fans just SHUT UP!!
Its not enough that every media outlet in the friggin country strokes your ego on how GREAT your D is and how GREAT Grossman is???
Make sure that you post on Monday regardless of the score.
Tell me then and only then how the revamped MN Vikings look.

...........And if your precious Bears lose, be sure that you say how the Bears lost the game rather than how the Vikes actually won.
We wouldnt expect any less from you or the media!

Vikes_King
09-20-2006, 03:30 PM
why did u just quote that and paste the same thing? :confused:

oh, and thank you Tbets, i figured someone would appreciate a logical post in rivalry threads, they're normally all rubish

bearsfanmn
09-20-2006, 03:34 PM
"Del" wrote:


"Angrybearsfan" wrote:


If you happen to actually watch both WSH games and both CAR games, you would see that they in no way, shape or form resemble the teams people thought they would be two weeks ago.

WSH has offensive talent, but for whatever reason they simply cannot execute plays.
Portis is the engine to that team and he is out.
Brunell has been horible so far.

Carolina is Steve Smith.
No other player means so much to one team.
Steve Smith is the reason they win football games.
He is out, and they just are not a good offensive football team without him.

Both WSH and CAR have good defensive units, but with their offense playing bad sooner or later they are going to make a mistake.
Both teams had great offenses last year and now they have to figure out how to play with a bad offense.

The Vikings wins have been close.
There were a few plays that were either lucky, or penalties were called upon and your team could very easily be 0-2.
There are no points in either bears games where one play could have changed the outcome.

The Bears dominated both GB and DET in every aspect of the game, you cannot say that about either Viking game.

That doesn't mean the Bears will come in and dominate, but it does mean that they were able to execute their plays, make defensive stops, get tunrovers when they needed to, and score at will.

I dont think there is a credible coach or player in the league who says the Vikings are playing better football than the Bears right now.
That may change or it may not, but the point is the Vikings have to do a lot more to win this game than the Bears do.
Thats not being a homer or overconfidence, just the facts based on the past two games from each team.

I like the new Vikings style of play.
Running the football, clock control, and no mistakes by BJ.
That keeps them in the game.
But the Bears have shown that they will take chances on offense, and they already know how to play like the Vikings.
If it comes down to a slug fest, the Bears are able to play that game.
If the Bears somehow manage to go up by two TDs, are the Vikings able to adjust accordingly and start scoring points?

There is more certainty in the Bears now than the Vikings.
CAR WSH GB and DET are not good teams now, I think they are all 0-2.

Grossman is obviously the key to the Bears success.
He has actually played well in the Dome before.
He was able to drive the ball down field.
The injury may or may not be on his mind.





I can't argue with that logic.

I will say this however. You beat teams you were supposed to beat. We have not. We have beaten teams we were not supposed to beat and instead of that making us good, somehow it means they are bad. Now you tell me how that works?

This is the NFL you get a pat on the back for beating bad teams because we all know, Bears fans and Vikes fans know, you let your guard down in the NFL you get beat even by a bad team. So you get your cudos for doing what you are expected to do. We have gotten nothing for doing the unexpected.

If we win against the Bears it will be unexpected no doubt, but I still don't see us being taken seriously unless we totally mop the floor with you guys, which I think most people will agree is not going to happen. If we win by one score be it a TD, a field goal anything it will not be enough.

So that is why I subscribe to the train of thought that W/L do not matter. What matters is Sunday.


that is not true at all. We were supposed to beat the Lions and the pack. But if we would of one
13 to 10 or 16 to 13 the shoe would be on the other foot. We barely beat bad teams is what they said. And then they would say that we wouldn't have a chance against high caliber teams. I would even be worried alil bit my self. last year we would of not dominated these teams. and like last year everyone would again say that we are just lucky.

I don't exactlay aggree with w and l are the only thing that matters. Cause on any day any team can beat anyone. Flukes do happen and teams can play bad. Even indianpolis was outplayed last year and they seemed to be the best team in the nfl. But I do know what you are saying. And in all honesty almost every year the bears and the vikes split. So I wouldn't be shocked if the vikes won. I was originally annoyed with the media and deveryone makeing out carolina and the washing redskins to be the most amazing teams in the nfl and the vikes beat them.

slavinator
09-20-2006, 03:35 PM
Bearsfanmn you didnt spontaneously combust when you said that you liked the new Vikes style of play did you??


It will be a tight game but the vikes will win it something like 17-14.

bearsfanmn
09-20-2006, 03:41 PM
"thevikingfan" wrote:


You say the bears have taken chances on offense but so have the vikings we have thown the deep ball we took a chance on a fake field goal that basicly win the game for us in carolina!The lions are a terrible team to let up 50 yard touchdowns when there was no reason to!The lions were stuffing the running game chicago was averaging like 2 yards a carry and instead of taking people out of the box and playing coverage they get completely fooled by a play action pass and let the reciever run completely past them.When ur already stuffing the run u dont put 8 in the box and give up big passes!The vikings are a better defense than people think and i belive they will surprise the bears this sunday



The liions were stuffing the run cause we quit passing cause we were up by 20+ points. Teams do not like to run up the score in the nfl. And certainly when you are definitley going to win the game. And last week we started out the game with like 8 passes in a row.
I think the vikes are and do have a good defense. And im sure it is better. But i don't htink you take the bears offesne seriously either.

bearsfanmn
09-20-2006, 03:43 PM
"faninhuskerhell" wrote:


SKOL VIKINGS

Yeah, lets tear the bbbbbears a new one!!!
Cant wait to see Grossman writhing in pain, a victim of yet another VIKING DEFENSIVE BUTT WHIPPING!!!
And Urlacher cryin' on the sidelines cause he can't understand why he sucks!!
Yeah, the NFC North is home to two of the worst, and two of the best, and after Sunday we all know who will be left undefeated.
THE MIGHTY VIKINGS!!!


and even you are not that stupid to actually think that urlacher is a bad player.

cajunvike
09-20-2006, 03:43 PM
"bearsfanmn" wrote:


"Angrybearsfan" wrote:


If you happen to actually watch both WSH games and both CAR games, you would see that they in no way, shape or form resemble the teams people thought they would be two weeks ago.

WSH has offensive talent, but for whatever reason they simply cannot execute plays.
Portis is the engine to that team and he is out.
Brunell has been horible so far.

Carolina is Steve Smith.
No other player means so much to one team.
Steve Smith is the reason they win football games.
He is out, and they just are not a good offensive football team without him.

Both WSH and CAR have good defensive units, but with their offense playing bad sooner or later they are going to make a mistake.
Both teams had great offenses last year and now they have to figure out how to play with a bad offense.

The Vikings wins have been close.
There were a few plays that were either lucky, or penalties were called upon and your team could very easily be 0-2.
There are no points in either bears games where one play could have changed the outcome.

The Bears dominated both GB and DET in every aspect of the game, you cannot say that about either Viking game.

That doesn't mean the Bears will come in and dominate, but it does mean that they were able to execute their plays, make defensive stops, get tunrovers when they needed to, and score at will.

I dont think there is a credible coach or player in the league who says the Vikings are playing better football than the Bears right now.
That may change or it may not, but the point is the Vikings have to do a lot more to win this game than the Bears do.
Thats not being a homer or overconfidence, just the facts based on the past two games from each team.

I like the new Vikings style of play.
Running the football, clock control, and no mistakes by BJ.
That keeps them in the game.
But the Bears have shown that they will take chances on offense, and they already know how to play like the Vikings.
If it comes down to a slug fest, the Bears are able to play that game.
If the Bears somehow manage to go up by two TDs, are the Vikings able to adjust accordingly and start scoring points?

There is more certainty in the Bears now than the Vikings.
CAR WSH GB and DET are not good teams now, I think they are all 0-2.

Grossman is obviously the key to the Bears success.
He has actually played well in the Dome before.
He was able to drive the ball down field.
The injury may or may not be on his mind.





Very nice well thought out post. I aggree whole heartedly. With everything said.


Why am I not surprised?
Oh well, even IDIOTS want to belong to a clique!
:D

bearsfanmn
09-20-2006, 03:45 PM
"Slade" wrote:


Bottom line, the Bears QB is Rex Grossman. He is not the end all-be all savior of the Bears. Its that D & a good running game. Grossman has played in, what like 8-10 games over a 3 year period? He's basically a rookie. Better than Orton, but he's not all that. If the Bears D was average, the would finish 4-12 or close to it. This Sunday will be a good test for our Vikes & I hope they do well. Good luck to the Bears fans, & I made a wager with a buddy (Bears fan), Rex will not last past week 10



man im not sure how many games he played in. I think 2 this year 2 last year and 2 the year before that. But he has practiced for 3 years. lol. So you can't say he doesn't have the playbook memorized!!!

But with that offesive line (3 probowlers) I think he will make it the season as long as he doesn't take off running and do something stupid.

bearsfanmn
09-20-2006, 03:51 PM
"Slade" wrote:


"bearsfanmn" wrote:


"cajunvike" wrote:


"bearsfanmn" wrote:


"Slade" wrote:






Bears are always the "regular season" champions.
It's that first playoff game that always gets them.
Teams figure out that they have zero offense and can't play from behind.
Oh yeah, and they actually have to play someone good.




And who would that be?
After week six you will lose the rest of your games as you do EVERY YEAR.

- Hmmm, after losing our starting QB last year, I recall finishing 7-2. I didn't see a late season collapse last year....anyone else?


And how many playoff teams did you destroy in that 7 and 2??????????????/
How many teams with winning records did you limp past in that 7 and 2?
You shouldn't even count the win over the bears.

With that logic, you guys are 0-0 this year...since you guys shouldn't even count the wins against the Pukers and Lions THIS YEAR!!!

BTW...how many playoff games did you guys win last season...oh, that's right...NONE!!!
We ended up with better draft position than you guys did, won our last game (and YES we will count it)...while you guys stunk it up against the Panthers!

BUT all that really matters is this Sunday...and the Vikings will surprise you all...and dominate on DEFENSE!


We lost. it was a great game. Wish you could of been there. Instead you have a draft pick. That is injuered for the season with an injury that has been know to reaccure on your crappy field turf.

I assure you if you ask any vikings player if he would of traded not going to a playoff game
for going to a playoff game and losing that they would choose going and losing every time.

nice logic, but you fall short.

Oh and the bears will dominate on offense!


And I never said that the bears played great teams. They played bad teams. And dominated. And the vikings played bad teams and barely won.


- Other than the Steve Smith injury, what has changed about the Skins & Panthers team from last year? Did someone significant leave? I thought the Skins had the best offseason (according to ESPN, SI & Fox Sports). Yeah, the Panthers missed Smith, injuires happen. It takes 53 guys to win a game. But I don't see how the teams we played were bad. If the Skins & Panthers beat us, you would say they were good. Since we won, they suck. I don't get it



The skins didn't score a touch down the entire preseason. They were terrible. Thier offense was terrible. and continues to be. Are you telling me you are picking them to win there division? I would ike to take that bet please. Seriously. I will give you my cell phone number. Just because you have a good on paper offseason it doesn't mean its gonna gel on the field.

bearsfanmn
09-20-2006, 03:55 PM
"thevikingfan" wrote:


I highly doubt the bears will dominte on offense!nothing pisses me off that obnoxious fans!You have no proof that u are good on offense!You beat the packers 26-0 ok u scored 1 touchdown on offense one on special teams and 4 field goal.U scored 1 touchdown against a team that let up 34 points to the SAINTS!


And your point is? Filedgoals and special teams should have no part in football?
After you only one your game against carolina on a lucky i mean lucky specialtemas gadget play? If it wasn't for fieldgoals and special teams you would be
0 and 2.

And I think the saints are going to be pretty good this year.
And again I never said thee pack and lions were great teams. They are bad.

bearsfanmn
09-20-2006, 03:59 PM
"slavinator" wrote:


Lets all have a reality check.
Bears fans are D#$KS!
Always have been.
You do have a good team Chicago, so does Minnesota.
I always have had a major hatred toward the Packers, but I never used to hate the Bears. Why cant these Chicago fans just SHUT UP!!
Its not enough that every media outlet in the friggin country strokes your ego on how GREAT your D is and how GREAT Grossman is???
Make sure that you post on Monday regardless of the score.
Tell me then and only then how the revamped MN Vikings look.

...........And if your precious Bears lose, be sure that you say how the Bears lost the game rather than how the Vikes actually won.
We wouldnt expect any less from you or the media!





The bears defense is good. Where have you been. Its called consistency. We have had it for years on defense.
Im not going to make excuses. I have already said that I won't be surprised if the vikes did win cause we usually split. I just think its dumb that people on here think you are world beaters for beating two bad teams that happened to make the playoffs last year.

bearsfanmn
09-20-2006, 04:02 PM
"slavinator" wrote:


Bearsfanmn you didnt spontaneously combust when you said that you liked the new Vikes style of play did you??


It will be a tight game but the vikes will win it something like 17-14.


Oh i don't think I said that. I think that was angrybearsfan. But I think its a better style for you to fun. Teams that run and gun usually wear out there defenses and will get outscored at the end of the day. You need a hardnosed offense and defiense and a great special teams to win nowadays.

thevikingfan
09-20-2006, 04:02 PM
"bearsfanmn" wrote:


"thevikingfan" wrote:


I highly doubt the bears will dominte on offense!nothing pisses me off that obnoxious fans!You have no proof that u are good on offense!You beat the packers 26-0 ok u scored 1 touchdown on offense one on special teams and 4 field goal.U scored 1 touchdown against a team that let up 34 points to the SAINTS!


And your point is? Filedgoals and special teams should have no part in football?
After you only one your game against carolina on a lucky i mean lucky specialtemas gadget play? If it wasn't for fieldgoals and special teams you would be
0 and 2.

And I think the saints are going to be pretty good this year.
And again I never said thee pack and lions were great teams. They are bad.


Obvioisly u cant read or cant comprehend what i just said!I didnt say special teams had no impact
on a game.I
said that u only scored one touchdown on OFFENSE the rest of ur points all came on special teams 4 field goals and a kick off return for a touchdown

bearsfanmn
09-20-2006, 04:03 PM
"cajunvike" wrote:


"bearsfanmn" wrote:


"Angrybearsfan" wrote:


If you happen to actually watch both WSH games and both CAR games, you would see that they in no way, shape or form resemble the teams people thought they would be two weeks ago.

WSH has offensive talent, but for whatever reason they simply cannot execute plays.
Portis is the engine to that team and he is out.
Brunell has been horible so far.

Carolina is Steve Smith.
No other player means so much to one team.
Steve Smith is the reason they win football games.
He is out, and they just are not a good offensive football team without him.

Both WSH and CAR have good defensive units, but with their offense playing bad sooner or later they are going to make a mistake.
Both teams had great offenses last year and now they have to figure out how to play with a bad offense.

The Vikings wins have been close.
There were a few plays that were either lucky, or penalties were called upon and your team could very easily be 0-2.
There are no points in either bears games where one play could have changed the outcome.

The Bears dominated both GB and DET in every aspect of the game, you cannot say that about either Viking game.

That doesn't mean the Bears will come in and dominate, but it does mean that they were able to execute their plays, make defensive stops, get tunrovers when they needed to, and score at will.

I dont think there is a credible coach or player in the league who says the Vikings are playing better football than the Bears right now.
That may change or it may not, but the point is the Vikings have to do a lot more to win this game than the Bears do.
Thats not being a homer or overconfidence, just the facts based on the past two games from each team.

I like the new Vikings style of play.
Running the football, clock control, and no mistakes by BJ.
That keeps them in the game.
But the Bears have shown that they will take chances on offense, and they already know how to play like the Vikings.
If it comes down to a slug fest, the Bears are able to play that game.
If the Bears somehow manage to go up by two TDs, are the Vikings able to adjust accordingly and start scoring points?

There is more certainty in the Bears now than the Vikings.
CAR WSH GB and DET are not good teams now, I think they are all 0-2.

Grossman is obviously the key to the Bears success.
He has actually played well in the Dome before.
He was able to drive the ball down field.
The injury may or may not be on his mind.





Very nice well thought out post. I aggree whole heartedly. With everything said.


Why am I not surprised?
Oh well, even IDIOTS want to belong to a clique!

:D



ahhhhh are you feeling left out. there is always room for one more fellow idiot.

cajunvike
09-20-2006, 04:04 PM
"bearsfanmn" wrote:


"slavinator" wrote:


Lets all have a reality check.
Bears fans are D#$KS!
Always have been.
You do have a good team Chicago, so does Minnesota.
I always have had a major hatred toward the Packers, but I never used to hate the Bears. Why cant these Chicago fans just SHUT UP!!
Its not enough that every media outlet in the friggin country strokes your ego on how GREAT your D is and how GREAT Grossman is???
Make sure that you post on Monday regardless of the score.
Tell me then and only then how the revamped MN Vikings look.

...........And if your precious Bears lose, be sure that you say how the Bears lost the game rather than how the Vikes actually won.
We wouldnt expect any less from you or the media!





The bears defense is good. Where have you been. Its called consistency. We have had it for years on defense.
Im not going to make excuses. I have already said that I won't be surprised if the vikes did win cause we usually split. I just think its dumb that people on here think you are world beaters for beating two bad teams that happened to make the playoffs last year.


No one here thinks that we are world beaters....we are just very encouraged about our rapidly improving defense and rapidly improving running game (Taylor DID go over 100 yards...with alot of it being tough 4th quarter yardage when we needed it most).

We are just tired of hearing about how much better everyone thinks the Bears are than the Vikings...we want the respect that we feel is due to OUR team...and wonder if we will get any even IF (or should I say, WHEN) we beat the Bears on Sunday.
Call it a big PURPLE chip on our shoulders if you will.

cajunvike
09-20-2006, 04:05 PM
"bearsfanmn" wrote:


"cajunvike" wrote:


"bearsfanmn" wrote:


"Slade" wrote:


"bearsfanmn" wrote:




Bears are always the "regular season" champions.
It's that first playoff game that always gets them.
Teams figure out that they have zero offense and can't play from behind.
Oh yeah, and they actually have to play someone good.


And who would that be?
After week six you will lose the rest of your games as you do EVERY YEAR.

- Hmmm, after losing our starting QB last year, I recall finishing 7-2. I didn't see a late season collapse last year....anyone else?


And how many playoff teams did you destroy in that 7 and 2??????????????/
How many teams with winning records did you limp past in that 7 and 2?
You shouldn't even count the win over the bears.

With that logic, you guys are 0-0 this year...since you guys shouldn't even count the wins against the Pukers and Lions THIS YEAR!!!

BTW...how many playoff games did you guys win last season...oh, that's right...NONE!!!
We ended up with better draft position than you guys did, won our last game (and YES we will count it)...while you guys stunk it up against the Panthers!

BUT all that really matters is this Sunday...and the Vikings will surprise you all...and dominate on DEFENSE!


We lost. it was a great game. Wish you could of been there. Instead you have a draft pick. That is injuered for the season with an injury that has been know to reaccure on your crappy field turf.

I assure you if you ask any vikings player if he would of traded not going to a playoff game
for going to a playoff game and losing that they would choose going and losing every time.

nice logic, but you fall short.

Oh and the bears will dominate on offense!


And I never said that the bears played great teams. They played bad teams. And dominated. And the vikings played bad teams and barely won.


LAME retort, chump!
You don't see me dogging you guys about how Grossman got hurt last season (and to gloat about us losing our rookie LB is just weak and will eventually bring bad karma on you and your team)

bearsfanmn
09-20-2006, 04:08 PM
"thevikingfan" wrote:


"bearsfanmn" wrote:


"thevikingfan" wrote:


I highly doubt the bears will dominte on offense!nothing pisses me off that obnoxious fans!You have no proof that u are good on offense!You beat the packers 26-0 ok u scored 1 touchdown on offense one on special teams and 4 field goal.U scored 1 touchdown against a team that let up 34 points to the SAINTS!


And your point is? Filedgoals and special teams should have no part in football?
After you only one your game against carolina on a lucky i mean lucky specialtemas gadget play? If it wasn't for fieldgoals and special teams you would be
0 and 2.

And I think the saints are going to be pretty good this year.
And again I never said thee pack and lions were great teams. They are bad.


Obvioisly u cant read or cant comprehend what i just said!I didnt say special teams had no impact
on a game.I
said that u only scored one touchdown on OFFENSE the rest of ur points all came on special teams 4 field goals and a kick off return for a touchdown


Exactly what you said. The bear on offense can't score and if it wasn't for special teams and fieldgoals they would of lost. That is what you said. To Be a great team you need all of these (spec teams and Fieldgoals) week in and week out to be dominate. How did I missread that? Maybe you aren't sure what you are talking about. and then the Bears didn't need them in week two. They go hand in hand. Thank god the vikes special temas have been playing well. huh.

thevikingfan
09-20-2006, 04:11 PM
The vikes wont get respect even if we win.What gonna happen is if grossman plays bad then all the bears fans and media will forget all the stuff they said last week about grossman being an emerging superstar and throw grossman under the bus to deminish the vikings win.Then they will say the vikings didnt win the game as much as the bears lost it with the poor play of qb rex grossman,if brian griese was playing the bears would have won.I GUARANTEE THAT WE WONT GET ANY CREDIT EVEN IF WE WIN!

Vikes_King
09-20-2006, 04:15 PM
"faninhuskerhell" wrote:


SKOL VIKINGS

Yeah, lets tear the bbbbbears a new one!!!
Cant wait to see Grossman writhing in pain, a victim of yet another VIKING DEFENSIVE BUTT WHIPPING!!!
And Urlacher cryin' on the sidelines cause he can't understand why he sucks!!
Yeah, the NFC North is home to two of the worst, and two of the best, and after Sunday we all know who will be left undefeated.
THE MIGHTY VIKINGS!!!


urlacher is one of the best players in football; hands down.

a bear or not

bearsfanmn
09-20-2006, 04:15 PM
"cajunvike" wrote:


"bearsfanmn" wrote:


"slavinator" wrote:


Lets all have a reality check.
Bears fans are D#$KS!
Always have been.
You do have a good team Chicago, so does Minnesota.
I always have had a major hatred toward the Packers, but I never used to hate the Bears. Why cant these Chicago fans just SHUT UP!!
Its not enough that every media outlet in the friggin country strokes your ego on how GREAT your D is and how GREAT Grossman is???
Make sure that you post on Monday regardless of the score.
Tell me then and only then how the revamped MN Vikings look.

...........And if your precious Bears lose, be sure that you say how the Bears lost the game rather than how the Vikes actually won.
We wouldnt expect any less from you or the media!





The bears defense is good. Where have you been. Its called consistency. We have had it for years on defense.
Im not going to make excuses. I have already said that I won't be surprised if the vikes did win cause we usually split. I just think its dumb that people on here think you are world beaters for beating two bad teams that happened to make the playoffs last year.


No one here thinks that we are world beaters....we are just very encouraged about our rapidly improving defense and rapidly improving running game (Taylor DID go over 100 yards...with alot of it being tough 4th quarter yardage when we needed it most).

We are just tired of hearing about how much better everyone thinks the Bears are than the Vikings...we want the respect that we feel is due to OUR team...and wonder if we will get any even IF (or should I say, WHEN) we beat the Bears on Sunday.
Call it a big PURPLE chip on our shoulders if you will.


if this was week 5 or 6 and you were unbeaten with a win over the division champs then yea you will get your praise. But you can't put yourself or expect people to automatically be on top of the mountain until you get there on your own merit. take out the bears beat a few more quality opponets and you will get what you want. But this is still week 2 and the bears are still the division champs. If you are the better team you will take it from us.

thevikingfan
09-20-2006, 04:16 PM
"bearsfanmn" wrote:


"thevikingfan" wrote:


"bearsfanmn" wrote:


"thevikingfan" wrote:


I highly doubt the bears will dominte on offense!nothing pisses me off that obnoxious fans!You have no proof that u are good on offense!You beat the packers 26-0 ok u scored 1 touchdown on offense one on special teams and 4 field goal.U scored 1 touchdown against a team that let up 34 points to the SAINTS!


And your point is? Filedgoals and special teams should have no part in football?
After you only one your game against carolina on a lucky i mean lucky specialtemas gadget play? If it wasn't for fieldgoals and special teams you would be
0 and 2.

And I think the saints are going to be pretty good this year.
And again I never said thee pack and lions were great teams. They are bad.


Obvioisly u cant read or cant comprehend what i just said!I didnt say special teams had no impact
on a game.I
said that u only scored one touchdown on OFFENSE the rest of ur points all came on special teams 4 field goals and a kick off return for a touchdown


Exactly what you said. The bear on offense can't score and if it wasn't for special teams and fieldgoals they would of lost. That is what you said. To Be a great team you need all of these (spec teams and Fieldgoals) week in and week out to be dominate. How did I missread that? Maybe you aren't sure what you are talking about. and then the Bears didn't need them in week two. They go hand in hand. Thank god the vikes special temas have been playing well. huh.


I am not talking about what it takes to be a whole team!the post was the bears will dominate on offense!So i said they scored 1 touchdown on OFFENSE against one of the worst teams in fooball.

bearsfanmn
09-20-2006, 04:21 PM
Christ it took me two hours to catch up. haha. Its been fun people. But there is not to much left to say here. Maybe i will stop by on friday or sat. But I am glad i had some good natured fun with the locals. (minus the jerks who took it to heart) It is only a game. I still think they will probably split. And who knows until the game is played. Is grossman for real??? Or is the vikes defense for real?? Ill be at the game in a sea of purple with my girlfriend. Cheering loud. Lookng forward to the game. In fact I can't wait. i have seats on pretty much the front row. I wonder how well you can see from there. But anyhow. Good luck. Bear Down.

I will be back on sunday night or monday to either gloat or swallow pride. I don' tmake excuses. I am a Bear fan through and through no matter what happens.

Slade
09-20-2006, 04:23 PM
all right people, lets settle down now. here are the facts:

Vikes & Bears are 2-0
Bears played 2 scrubs
Vikes played 2 decent teams
Vikings O is better than last year & D is good
Bears D is great (secondary is slow, but good)
Bears O is decent
Vikes will get no love if we win
Bears will be the best thing since sliced bread if they win
Grossman is good, not great

bearsfanmn
09-20-2006, 04:25 PM
"thevikingfan" wrote:


"bearsfanmn" wrote:


"thevikingfan" wrote:


"bearsfanmn" wrote:


"thevikingfan" wrote:


I highly doubt the bears will dominte on offense!nothing pisses me off that obnoxious fans!You have no proof that u are good on offense!You beat the packers 26-0 ok u scored 1 touchdown on offense one on special teams and 4 field goal.U scored 1 touchdown against a team that let up 34 points to the SAINTS!


And your point is? Filedgoals and special teams should have no part in football?
After you only one your game against carolina on a lucky i mean lucky specialtemas gadget play? If it wasn't for fieldgoals and special teams you would be
0 and 2.

And I think the saints are going to be pretty good this year.
And again I never said thee pack and lions were great teams. They are bad.


Obvioisly u cant read or cant comprehend what i just said!I didnt say special teams had no impact
on a game.I
said that u only scored one touchdown on OFFENSE the rest of ur points all came on special teams 4 field goals and a kick off return for a touchdown


Exactly what you said. The bear on offense can't score and if it wasn't for special teams and fieldgoals they would of lost. That is what you said. To Be a great team you need all of these (spec teams and Fieldgoals) week in and week out to be dominate. How did I missread that? Maybe you aren't sure what you are talking about. and then the Bears didn't need them in week two. They go hand in hand. Thank god the vikes special temas have been playing well. huh.


I am not talking about what it takes to be a whole team!the post was the bears will dominate on offense!So i said they scored 1 touchdown on OFFENSE against one of the worst teams in fooball.


And they almost tripled the pack in time of possesion. Moving the ball up and down the field getting fieid goals and throwing the int. in the end zone. There offense moved the ball at will against them.

Del Rio
09-20-2006, 04:26 PM
"bearsfanmn" wrote:


Christ it took me two hours to catch up. haha. Its been fun people. But there is not to much left to say here. Maybe i will stop by on friday or sat. But I am glad i had some good natured fun with the locals. (minus the jerks who took it to heart) It is only a game. I still think they will probably split. And who knows until the game is played. Is grossman for real??? Or is the vikes defense for real?? Ill be at the game in a sea of purple with my girlfriend. Cheering loud. Lookng forward to the game. In fact I can't wait. i have seats on pretty much the front row. I wonder how well you can see from there. But anyhow. Good luck. Bear Down.

I will be back on sunday night or monday to either gloat or swallow pride. I don' tmake excuses. I am a Bear fan through and through no matter what happens.



Have a good one, good luck on Sunday. Here's to no one getting hurt.

cajunvike
09-20-2006, 04:26 PM
"bearsfanmn" wrote:


"cajunvike" wrote:


"bearsfanmn" wrote:


"slavinator" wrote:


Lets all have a reality check.
Bears fans are D#$KS!
Always have been.
You do have a good team Chicago, so does Minnesota.
I always have had a major hatred toward the Packers, but I never used to hate the Bears. Why cant these Chicago fans just SHUT UP!!
Its not enough that every media outlet in the friggin country strokes your ego on how GREAT your D is and how GREAT Grossman is???
Make sure that you post on Monday regardless of the score.
Tell me then and only then how the revamped MN Vikings look.

...........And if your precious Bears lose, be sure that you say how the Bears lost the game rather than how the Vikes actually won.
We wouldnt expect any less from you or the media!





The bears defense is good. Where have you been. Its called consistency. We have had it for years on defense.
Im not going to make excuses. I have already said that I won't be surprised if the vikes did win cause we usually split. I just think its dumb that people on here think you are world beaters for beating two bad teams that happened to make the playoffs last year.


No one here thinks that we are world beaters....we are just very encouraged about our rapidly improving defense and rapidly improving running game (Taylor DID go over 100 yards...with alot of it being tough 4th quarter yardage when we needed it most).

We are just tired of hearing about how much better everyone thinks the Bears are than the Vikings...we want the respect that we feel is due to OUR team...and wonder if we will get any even IF (or should I say, WHEN) we beat the Bears on Sunday.
Call it a big PURPLE chip on our shoulders if you will.


if this was week 5 or 6 and you were unbeaten with a win over the division champs then yea you will get your praise. But you can't put yourself or expect people to automatically be on top of the mountain until you get there on your own merit. take out the bears beat a few more quality opponets and you will get what you want. But this is still week 2 and the bears are still the division champs. If you are the better team you will take it from us.


With that logic, then NO TEAM should be saying CRAP right now...including the BEARS!
And the Bears are Division Champs from LAST YEAR...LAST YEAR'S team....LAST YEAR'S schedule...this year is a whole different ball game...and lest you forget, the LAST TIME our two teams played each other, the VIKINGS won...regardless of your lame excuses that you guys sat ONE or TWO starters...WE WHUPPED DAT A$$ on New Year's Day!!!

Slade
09-20-2006, 04:26 PM
well, my Varsity football team from 93 could beat the Packers this year
;)

Vikes_King
09-20-2006, 04:26 PM
"bearsfanmn" wrote:


Christ it took me two hours to catch up. haha. Its been fun people. But there is not to much left to say here. Maybe i will stop by on friday or sat. But I am glad i had some good natured fun with the locals. (minus the jerks who took it to heart) It is only a game. I still think they will probably split. And who knows until the game is played. Is grossman for real??? Or is the vikes defense for real?? Ill be at the game in a sea of purple with my girlfriend. Cheering loud. Lookng forward to the game. In fact I can't wait. i have seats on pretty much the front row. I wonder how well you can see from there. But anyhow. Good luck. Bear Down.

I will be back on sunday night or monday to either gloat or swallow pride. I don' tmake excuses. I am a Bear fan through and through no matter what happens.



see you then
;)

cajunvike
09-20-2006, 04:29 PM
"bearsfanmn" wrote:


Christ it took me two hours to catch up. haha. Its been fun people. But there is not to much left to say here. Maybe i will stop by on friday or sat. But I am glad i had some good natured fun with the locals. (minus the jerks who took it to heart) It is only a game. I still think they will probably split. And who knows until the game is played. Is grossman for real??? Or is the vikes defense for real?? Ill be at the game in a sea of purple with my girlfriend. Cheering loud. Lookng forward to the game. In fact I can't wait. i have seats on pretty much the front row. I wonder how well you can see from there. But anyhow. Good luck. Bear Down.

I will be back on sunday night or monday to either gloat or swallow pride. I don' tmake excuses. I am a Bear fan through and through no matter what happens.



We will hold you to that, man!
And we can take our lumps if our guys give the game away by some strange occurance!
LOL


See you then!

thevikingfan
09-20-2006, 06:43 PM
"cajunvike" wrote:


With that logic, then NO TEAM should be saying CRAP right now...including the BEARS!
And the Bears are Division Champs from LAST YEAR...LAST YEAR'S team....LAST YEAR'S schedule...this year is a whole different ball game...and lest you forget, the LAST TIME our two teams played each other, the VIKINGS won...regardless of your lame excuses that you guys sat ONE or TWO starters...WE WHUPPED DAT A$$ on New Year's Day!!!

Thee are a couple problems with that..first the bears have the easiest schedule in the nfl this year,second when we destroyed the bears last season they were resting their starters.The one thing that i can say is this,the last 8 meetings between these teams the hokme team has won.basicly the bears havent won in the dome since 2001 and the vikes havent won at soldier since 2001 also.So if history is to repeat itself then we will win this game

Prophet
09-20-2006, 07:00 PM
I hate when people wish injuries on players.
I'm looking forward to a hard fought game.
It's always better if the best available players are on the field.
I'm really looking forward to this game so I can see the Vikes battle it out again and see if the Bears offense is for real.
Will be a great game.
The NFCN is a battle between two teams.
This is it.

Pirates4Vikings
09-20-2006, 07:12 PM
I'm with you, Prophet ...
No one should wish injury on a player. I wouldn't want that to happen to anyone.
:( Also, you bring up a great point about the best players available equals the best game played. I've been a longtime beliecer that a fan who wishes injury to another team's player tells me they don't think their team can beat the other team if they have all their best players in the game. I can honestly say that I think the Vikings are capable of beating anyone if they stick to their game plan. So far, BC has made good on that promise. I've even invited a half dozen or so Bears fans to our house on Sunday to join the group of Vikings fans we host. One has even offered to cut my grass if the Vikings win. Of course, I'll pull out the ol' lawn chair, get a drink, and make sure I let him know if he missed a spot!!!

4th and 26
09-20-2006, 07:13 PM
"Slade" wrote:


all right people, lets settle down now. here are the facts:

Vikes & Bears are 2-0
Bears played 2 scrubs
Vikes played 2 decent teams
Vikings O is better than last year & D is good
Bears D is great (secondary is slow, but good)
Bears O is decent
Vikes will get no love if we win
Bears will be the best thing since sliced bread if they win
Grossman is good, not great



Come on now. The deadskins and panthers both suck now. They are no where close to the teams they were last year.
Hell the redskins qb is worse than the bears.

Ltrey33
09-20-2006, 11:06 PM
"4th" wrote:


"Slade" wrote:


all right people, lets settle down now. here are the facts:

Vikes & Bears are 2-0
Bears played 2 scrubs
Vikes played 2 decent teams
Vikings O is better than last year & D is good
Bears D is great (secondary is slow, but good)
Bears O is decent
Vikes will get no love if we win
Bears will be the best thing since sliced bread if they win
Grossman is good, not great



Come on now. The deadskins and panthers both suck now. They are no where close to the teams they were last year.
Hell the redskins qb is worse than the bears.



How can you say that they suck after two games? Goodness gracious....they were both playoff teams last year and they're both pretty talented overall. You Bears fans sure do like to jump to early conclusions!

Caine
09-21-2006, 12:14 AM
Holy Crud, Batman!!!

I started reading on page 21, thinking I would simply "join in".....nope, not gonna try.
This flame war has no good ending...for either side.

So, instead, I'll give my impressions of both teams.

DEFENSIVELY:

MINNESOTA:
Defensive Unit has improved, admittedly at the expense of a Washington team that can't find it's stride and a Carolina team that is missing it's heart.
However, both teams are solid franchises.
That said, Minnesota still has to prove themselves against a productive Offense.
So far, they haven't faced one.


CHICAGO:
Defensive Unit ranked #1 in the NFL last season, primarily due to their great fortune in having a soft schedule.
Will likely repeat this year for the same reason.
Chicago has a very good defense, don't mistake what I'm saying here, but they aren't THAT good...not yet.
In order to be considered THAT good, they would have to be able to handle teams who are top ranked Offensive teams, something they haven't done this year or last.

OFFENSIVELY:

MINNESOTA:
The Vikings have been able to generate just enough Offense to win so far.
The up side is that they did so against two pretty good Defenses.
Their downside, however, has been their inability to convert on 3rd down and their inability to finish drives (Score touchdowns).
Minnesota needs to be able to show more consistancy and the ability to score touchdowns, not just to rely on Ryan Longwell's foot.
All the pieces for them to do so exist on the roster, it's just a matter of getting it done.

CHICAGO:
Chicago's Offense was completely lacking last season.
Grossman gives them the ability to actually pass.
However, before anyone gets too excited, this is still an unproven Offense.
While they were able to pummel both Green Bay and Detroit into the dirt, neither one of those teams is considered even remotely good.
If Grossman stays hot, Chicago may be able to develop into a legitimate Play-Off caliber team.
If not, can Griese get them there?
I don't know.


This game could go either way, quite easily.
For Vikings fans, this is where we find out what kind of a team we really have.
Chicago beat us last season due to turnovers (Thanks, Daunte...you putz!!).
Other than that, they weren't very impressive.
They haven't changed much, but WE have.
If Minnesota wins this one, look for the Bears to lose a LOT of media love...and the Vikings to start turning heads.

Caine

thevikingfan
09-21-2006, 12:21 AM
"Caine" wrote:


Holy Crud, Batman!!!

I started reading on page 21, thinking I would simply "join in".....nope, not gonna try.
This flame war has no good ending...for either side.

So, instead, I'll give my impressions of both teams.

DEFENSIVELY:

MINNESOTA:
Defensive Unit has improved, admittedly at the expense of a Washington team that can't find it's stride and a Carolina team that is missing it's heart.
However, both teams are solid franchises.
That said, Minnesota still has to prove themselves against a productive Offense.
So far, they haven't faced one.


CHICAGO:
Defensive Unit ranked #1 in the NFL last season, primarily due to their great fortune in having a soft schedule.
Will likely repeat this year for the same reason.
Chicago has a very good defense, don't mistake what I'm saying here, but they aren't THAT good...not yet.
In order to be considered THAT good, they would have to be able to handle teams who are top ranked Offensive teams, something they haven't done this year or last.

OFFENSIVELY:

MINNESOTA:
The Vikings have been able to generate just enough Offense to win so far.
The up side is that they did so against two pretty good Defenses.
Their downside, however, has been their inability to convert on 3rd down and their inability to finish drives (Score touchdowns).
Minnesota needs to be able to show more consistancy and the ability to score touchdowns, not just to rely on Ryan Longwell's foot.
All the pieces for them to do so exist on the roster, it's just a matter of getting it done.

CHICAGO:
Chicago's Offense was completely lacking last season.
Grossman gives them the ability to actually pass.
However, before anyone gets too excited, this is still an unproven Offense.
While they were able to pummel both Green Bay and Detroit into the dirt, neither one of those teams is considered even remotely good.
If Grossman stays hot, Chicago may be able to develop into a legitimate Play-Off caliber team.
If not, can Griese get them there?
I don't know.


This game could go either way, quite easily.
For Vikings fans, this is where we find out what kind of a team we really have.
Chicago beat us last season due to turnovers (Thanks, Daunte...you putz!!).
Other than that, they weren't very impressive.
They haven't changed much, but WE have.
If Minnesota wins this one, look for the Bears to lose a LOT of media love...and the Vikings to start turning heads.

Caine


dont kid urself if we win nobody is gonna jump off the bears bandwagon and jump onto
ours!The vikings will always be hated by the media!On a seperate note
the bears were the 2nd overall defense last year not the first,that honor went to the tampa bay bucaneers

Caine
09-21-2006, 12:33 AM
"thevikingfan" wrote:


"Caine" wrote:


Holy Crud, Batman!!!

I started reading on page 21, thinking I would simply "join in".....nope, not gonna try.
This flame war has no good ending...for either side.

So, instead, I'll give my impressions of both teams.

DEFENSIVELY:

MINNESOTA:
Defensive Unit has improved, admittedly at the expense of a Washington team that can't find it's stride and a Carolina team that is missing it's heart.
However, both teams are solid franchises.
That said, Minnesota still has to prove themselves against a productive Offense.
So far, they haven't faced one.


CHICAGO:
Defensive Unit ranked #1 in the NFL last season, primarily due to their great fortune in having a soft schedule.
Will likely repeat this year for the same reason.
Chicago has a very good defense, don't mistake what I'm saying here, but they aren't THAT good...not yet.
In order to be considered THAT good, they would have to be able to handle teams who are top ranked Offensive teams, something they haven't done this year or last.

OFFENSIVELY:

MINNESOTA:
The Vikings have been able to generate just enough Offense to win so far.
The up side is that they did so against two pretty good Defenses.
Their downside, however, has been their inability to convert on 3rd down and their inability to finish drives (Score touchdowns).
Minnesota needs to be able to show more consistancy and the ability to score touchdowns, not just to rely on Ryan Longwell's foot.
All the pieces for them to do so exist on the roster, it's just a matter of getting it done.

CHICAGO:
Chicago's Offense was completely lacking last season.
Grossman gives them the ability to actually pass.
However, before anyone gets too excited, this is still an unproven Offense.
While they were able to pummel both Green Bay and Detroit into the dirt, neither one of those teams is considered even remotely good.
If Grossman stays hot, Chicago may be able to develop into a legitimate Play-Off caliber team.
If not, can Griese get them there?
I don't know.


This game could go either way, quite easily.
For Vikings fans, this is where we find out what kind of a team we really have.
Chicago beat us last season due to turnovers (Thanks, Daunte...you putz!!).
Other than that, they weren't very impressive.
They haven't changed much, but WE have.
If Minnesota wins this one, look for the Bears to lose a LOT of media love...and the Vikings to start turning heads.

Caine


dont kid urself if we win nobody is gonna jump off the bears bandwagon and jump onto
ours!The vikings will always be hated by the media!On a seperate note
the bears were the 2nd overall defense last year not the first,that honor went to the tampa bay bucaneers


I stand corrected on the ranking, it was Tamps bay.
Interestingly, Chicago nudged Carolina bu 0.8 yards per game to get the #2 slot.
Hmmmmm....

Caine

midgensa
09-21-2006, 12:44 AM
From an objective view I think the Bears might be better on a neutral field ... but we are both 2-0 against two 0-2 teams, but our 0-2 teams are better than their 0-2 teams :lol: I will take our chances in the dome ... Lets call it
Vikes 20, Bears 13

Del Rio
09-21-2006, 06:38 AM
"4th" wrote:


"Slade" wrote:


all right people, lets settle down now. here are the facts:

Vikes & Bears are 2-0
Bears played 2 scrubs
Vikes played 2 decent teams
Vikings O is better than last year & D is good
Bears D is great (secondary is slow, but good)
Bears O is decent
Vikes will get no love if we win
Bears will be the best thing since sliced bread if they win
Grossman is good, not great



Come on now. The deadskins and panthers both suck now. They are no where close to the teams they were last year.
Hell the redskins qb is worse than the bears.



So when we beat the Bears on Sunday that will mean they suck too right?

Zeus
09-21-2006, 07:48 AM
"Slade" wrote:


well, my Varsity football team from 93 could beat the Packers this year
;)


Not.

The best football team in college football (let's say Ohio State for now, since they are the consensus #1) would get *slaughtered* by the worst NFL team (I think it's the Raiders, personally).
No doubt about that.

=Z=

NordicNed
09-21-2006, 08:04 AM
"AWZeus" wrote:


"Slade" wrote:


well, my Varsity football team from 93 could beat the Packers this year
;)


Not.

The best football team in college football (let's say Ohio State for now, since they are the consensus #1) would get *slaughtered* by the worst NFL team (I think it's the Raiders, personally).
No doubt about that.

=Z=
I'de have to agree with that, the worst Pro team would have no problem beating the Best College team on any given day....I would think the same holds true if the worst college team played the best high school team....Just no comparison....

Prophet
09-21-2006, 08:16 AM
"VikingNed" wrote:


"AWZeus" wrote:


"Slade" wrote:


well, my Varsity football team from 93 could beat the Packers this year
;)


Not.

The best football team in college football (let's say Ohio State for now, since they are the consensus #1) would get *slaughtered* by the worst NFL team (I think it's the Raiders, personally).
No doubt about that.

=Z=
I'de have to agree with that, the worst Pro team would have no problem beating the Best College team on any given day....I would think the same holds true if the worst college team played the best high school team....Just no comparison....


Agree.
The best of the best go from high school to college and the same is true from college to the pros.
Many a small town hero had a reality check when they went to college and many a college hero has had a reality check when they went to the NFL.
In college ball the majority of the players on even the best team in the land will never see a down in the pros.
The weakness exposed on professional teams are typically not due to a lack of talent, but more to insufficient coaching, conditioning, and mental preparation.

mr.woo
09-21-2006, 08:18 AM
"VikingNed" wrote:


"AWZeus" wrote:


"Slade" wrote:


well, my Varsity football team from 93 could beat the Packers this year
;)


Not.

The best football team in college football (let's say Ohio State for now, since they are the consensus #1) would get *slaughtered* by the worst NFL team (I think it's the Raiders, personally).
No doubt about that.

=Z=
I'de have to agree with that, the worst Pro team would have no problem beating the Best College team on any given day....I would think the same holds true if the worst college team played the best high school team....Just no comparison....


not so sure about that ned. there are some pretty crappy division AAA football teams in ohio that i think would have a tough time playing a team like colerain for example. they may not lose but they definitly would not slaughter them.

Marrdro
09-21-2006, 09:17 AM
It begs that I might have way to much time on my hands to get all this history or I just love my team, however, for what its worth, here are some stats for ya starting at 1985 because that seems to be the bench mark most of the bear fans keep refering to here:

Minn vs Chicago
9 Times they finished better than us in the div
7 times Chicago won div
5 times Minn won div
1 time Chicago finished second in div
10 times Minn finished second in div
4 time Chicago finished last in div
1 time Minn finished last in div
8 times Chicago made the playoffs
15 times Chicago made the playoffs

1985
Chicago# 15 1 0 0.938 456 198
Green Bay 8 8 0 0.5 337 355
Minnesota 7 9 0 0.438 346 359
Detroit 7 9 0 0.438 307 366
Tampa Bay 2 14 0 0.125 294 448

1986
Chicago 14 2 0 0.875 352 187
Minnesota 9 7 0 0.563 398 273
Detroit 5 11 0 0.313 277 326
Green Bay 4 12 0 0.25 254 418
Tampa Bay 2 14 0 0.125 239 473

1987
Chicago 11 4 0 0.733 356 282
Minnesota* 8 7 0 0.533 336 335
Green Bay 5 9 1 0.367 255 300
Tampa Bay 4 11 0 0.267 286 360
Detroit 4 11 0 0.267 269 384

1988
Chicago# 12 4 0 0.75 312 215
Minnesota* 11 5 0 0.688 406 233
Tampa Bay 5 11 0 0.313 261 350
Detroit 4 12 0 0.25 220 313
Green Bay 4 12 0 0.25 240 315

1989
Minnesota 10 6 0 0.625 351 275
Green Bay 10 6 0 0.625 362 356
Detroit 7 9 0 0.438 312 364
Chicago 6 10 0 0.375 358 377
Tampa Bay 5 11 0 0.313 320 419

1990
Chicago 11 5 0 0.688 348 280
Tampa Bay 6 10 0 0.375 264 367
Detroit 6 10 0 0.375 373 413
Green Bay 6 10 0 0.375 271 347
Minnesota 6 10 0 0.375 351 326

1991
Detroit 12 4 0 0.75 339 295
Chicago* 11 5 0 0.688 299 269
Minnesota 8 8 0 0.5 301 306
Green Bay 4 12 0 0.25 273 313
Tampa Bay 3 13 0 0.188 199 365

1992
Minnesota 11 5 0 0.688 374 249
Green Bay 9 7 0 0.563 276 296
Tampa Bay 5 11 0 0.313 267 365
Chicago 5 11 0 0.313 295 361
Detroit 5 11 0 0.313 273 332

1993
Detroit 10 6 0 0.625 298 292
Minnesota* 9 7 0 0.563 277 290
Green Bay* 9 7 0 0.563 340 282
Chicago 7 9 0 0.438 234 230
Tampa Bay 5 11 0 0.313 237 376

1994
Minnesota 10 6 0 0.625 356 314
Green Bay* 9 7 0 0.563 382 287
Detroit* 9 7 0 0.563 357 342
Chicago* 9 7 0 0.563 271 307
Tampa Bay 6 10 0 0.375 251 351

1995
Green Bay 11 5 0 0.688 404 314
Detroit* 10 6 0 0.625 436 336
Chicago 9 7 0 0.563 392 360
Minnesota 8 8 0 0.5 412 385
Tampa Bay 7 9 0 0.438 238 335

1996
Green Bay# 13 3 0 0.813 456 210
Minnesota* 9 7 0 0.563 298 315
Chicago 7 9 0 0.438 283 305
Tampa Bay 6 10 0 0.375 221 293
Detroit 5 11 0 0.313 302 368

1997
Green Bay 13 3 0 0.813 422 282
Tampa Bay* 10 6 0 0.625 299 263
Detroit* 9 7 0 0.563 379 306
Minnesota* 9 7 0 0.563 354 359
Chicago 4 12 0 0.25 263 421

1998
Minnesota# 15 1 0 0.938 556 296
Green Bay* 11 5 0 0.688 408 319
Tampa Bay 8 8 0 0.5 314 295
Detroit 5 11 0 0.313 306 378
Chicago 4 12 0 0.25 276 368

1999
Tampa Bay 11 5 0 0.688 270 235
Minnesota* 10 6 0 0.625 399 335
Detroit* 8 8 0 0.5 322 323
Green Bay 8 8 0 0.5 357 341
Chicago 6 10 0 0.375 272 341

2000
Minnesota 11 5 0 0.688 397 371
Tampa Bay* 10 6 0 0.625 388 269
Green Bay 9 7 0 0.563 353 323
Detroit 9 7 0 0.563 307 307
Chicago 5 11 0 0.313 216 355

2001
Chicago 13 3 0 0.812 338 203
Green Bay* 12 4 0 0.75 390 266
Tampa Bay* 9 7 0 0.562 324 280
Minnesota 5 11 0 0.312 290 390
Detroit 2 14 0 0.125 270 424

2002
Green Bay 12 4 0 0.75 398 328
Minnesota 6 10 0 0.375 390 442
Chicago 4 12 0 0.25 281 379
Detroit 3 13 0 0.188 306 451

2003
Green Bay 10 6 0 0.625 442 307
Minnesota 9 7 0 0.562 416 353
Chicago 7 9 0 0.438 283 346
Detroit 5 11 0 0.312 270 379

2004
Green Bay 10 6 0 0.625 424 380
Minnesota* 8 8 0 0.5 405 395
Detroit 6 10 0 0.375 296 350
Chicago 5 11 0 0.312 231 331

2005
Chicago 11 5 0 0.688 260 202
Minnesota 9 7 0 0.562 306 344
Detroit 5 11 0 0.312 254 345
Green Bay 4 12 0 0.25 298 344

4th and 26
09-21-2006, 05:48 PM
"Ltrey33" wrote:


"4th" wrote:


"Slade" wrote:


all right people, lets settle down now. here are the facts:

Vikes & Bears are 2-0
Bears played 2 scrubs
Vikes played 2 decent teams
Vikings O is better than last year & D is good
Bears D is great (secondary is slow, but good)
Bears O is decent
Vikes will get no love if we win
Bears will be the best thing since sliced bread if they win
Grossman is good, not great



Come on now. The deadskins and panthers both suck now. They are no where close to the teams they were last year.
Hell the redskins qb is worse than the bears.



How can you say that they suck after two games? Goodness gracious....they were both playoff teams last year and they're both pretty talented overall. You Bears fans sure do like to jump to early conclusions!



Lets see. The redskins looked like crap in both games. No offense vs the vikings and cowboys.
The Panthers got smoked by the falcons. Steve smith did not play in either game, The running game for the panthers is pathetic.
Stop with "They were playoff teams last year" excuse.
If you use that excuse then the Lions are better than both of these teams because they lost by only 3 pts to the teams that went to the superbowl last year.

4th and 26
09-21-2006, 05:54 PM
"Del" wrote:


"4th" wrote:


"Slade" wrote:


all right people, lets settle down now. here are the facts:

Vikes & Bears are 2-0
Bears played 2 scrubs
Vikes played 2 decent teams
Vikings O is better than last year & D is good
Bears D is great (secondary is slow, but good)
Bears O is decent
Vikes will get no love if we win
Bears will be the best thing since sliced bread if they win
Grossman is good, not great



Come on now. The deadskins and panthers both suck now. They are no where close to the teams they were last year.
Hell the redskins qb is worse than the bears.



So when we beat the Bears on Sunday that will mean they suck too right?


What are teh desadskins and panthers records?
how are they any different than the packers or lions?

Caine
09-21-2006, 10:20 PM
"4th" wrote:


"Ltrey33" wrote:


"4th" wrote:


"Slade" wrote:


all right people, lets settle down now. here are the facts:

Vikes & Bears are 2-0
Bears played 2 scrubs
Vikes played 2 decent teams
Vikings O is better than last year & D is good
Bears D is great (secondary is slow, but good)
Bears O is decent
Vikes will get no love if we win
Bears will be the best thing since sliced bread if they win
Grossman is good, not great



Come on now. The deadskins and panthers both suck now. They are no where close to the teams they were last year.
Hell the redskins qb is worse than the bears.



How can you say that they suck after two games? Goodness gracious....they were both playoff teams last year and they're both pretty talented overall. You Bears fans sure do like to jump to early conclusions!



Lets see. The redskins looked like crap in both games. No offense vs the vikings and cowboys.
The Panthers got smoked by the falcons. Steve smith did not play in either game, The running game for the panthers is pathetic.
Stop with "They were playoff teams last year" excuse.
If you use that excuse then the Lions are better than both of these teams because they lost by only 3 pts to the teams that went to the superbowl last year.



Fine, fine...you win...the Packers and the Lions are MUCH better teams that anyone we even have on our schedule - except the packers and the Lions who will once again suck when they play us, but are considered contenders when you play them.

Does that about cover it for you?


PUUUUUUHLEEEEASE!!

If you honestly believe that either Green Bay or Detroit are better than either Washington or Carolina then I seriously question whether or not the nice nurses should continue to allow you to play on the computer or if they should take you in for an enema and a shot.

GRANTED, neither Carolina nor Washington looked particularly potent (After all, they're 0-2), but their other losses came at the hands of other teams that are predicted to go deep into the Play-Offs as well.
Only Detroit can claim that in your opponents list.

Yes, I think the level of competition the Bears have faced thus far - and most of last season - is low.
Heck, it's no secret you guys had a soft schedule last season, and a soft schedule this season.
The highest ranked Offense you beat last season was #12 (Atlanta).
Your team is NOT a dynastic power.
Get over it.

Caine

bearsfan1
09-22-2006, 02:09 AM
"Caine" wrote:


"4th" wrote:


"Ltrey33" wrote:


"4th" wrote:


"Slade" wrote:


all right people, lets settle down now. here are the facts:

Vikes & Bears are 2-0
Bears played 2 scrubs
Vikes played 2 decent teams
Vikings O is better than last year & D is good
Bears D is great (secondary is slow, but good)
Bears O is decent
Vikes will get no love if we win
Bears will be the best thing since sliced bread if they win
Grossman is good, not great



Come on now. The deadskins and panthers both suck now. They are no where close to the teams they were last year.
Hell the redskins qb is worse than the bears.



How can you say that they suck after two games? Goodness gracious....they were both playoff teams last year and they're both pretty talented overall. You Bears fans sure do like to jump to early conclusions!



Lets see. The redskins looked like crap in both games. No offense vs the vikings and cowboys.
The Panthers got smoked by the falcons. Steve smith did not play in either game, The running game for the panthers is pathetic.
Stop with "They were playoff teams last year" excuse.
If you use that excuse then the Lions are better than both of these teams because they lost by only 3 pts to the teams that went to the superbowl last year.



Fine, fine...you win...the Packers and the Lions are MUCH better teams that anyone we even have on our schedule - except the packers and the Lions who will once again suck when they play us, but are considered contenders when you play them.

Does that about cover it for you?


PUUUUUUHLEEEEASE!!

If you honestly believe that either Green Bay or Detroit are better than either Washington or Carolina then I seriously question whether or not the nice nurses should continue to allow you to play on the computer or if they should take you in for an enema and a shot.

GRANTED, neither Carolina nor Washington looked particularly potent (After all, they're 0-2), but their other losses came at the hands of other teams that are predicted to go deep into the Play-Offs as well.
Only Detroit can claim that in your opponents list.

Yes, I think the level of competition the Bears have faced thus far - and most of last season - is low.
Heck, it's no secret you guys had a soft schedule last season, and a soft schedule this season.
The highest ranked Offense you beat last season was #12 (Atlanta).
Your team is NOT a dynastic power.
Get over it.

Caine
if i folowed this little disagreement right i don't think he was saying the packers or the lions are a super power house. he was saying that so far this season neither are the redskins or panthers. all four of these teams are 0-2. both of our teams will play this week against the best team they have played so far this season. the winner will then be the best tean until we meet again or one of us win the division. bottom line is we are a top 10 offense (7th) and top 5 defense (5th), the vikes are top 15 offense (13th) and top 10 deffense (7th). sunday will tell all for both teams

bearsfan1
09-22-2006, 02:30 AM
what is this soft schedule stuff we play the same teams except for 2 almost every season

Caine
09-22-2006, 05:40 AM
"bearsfan1" wrote:


"Caine" wrote:


"4th" wrote:


"Ltrey33" wrote:


"4th" wrote:




all right people, lets settle down now. here are the facts:

Vikes & Bears are 2-0
Bears played 2 scrubs
Vikes played 2 decent teams
Vikings O is better than last year & D is good
Bears D is great (secondary is slow, but good)
Bears O is decent
Vikes will get no love if we win
Bears will be the best thing since sliced bread if they win
Grossman is good, not great



Come on now. The deadskins and panthers both suck now. They are no where close to the teams they were last year.
Hell the redskins qb is worse than the bears.



How can you say that they suck after two games? Goodness gracious....they were both playoff teams last year and they're both pretty talented overall. You Bears fans sure do like to jump to early conclusions!



Lets see. The redskins looked like crap in both games. No offense vs the vikings and cowboys.
The Panthers got smoked by the falcons. Steve smith did not play in either game, The running game for the panthers is pathetic.
Stop with "They were playoff teams last year" excuse.
If you use that excuse then the Lions are better than both of these teams because they lost by only 3 pts to the teams that went to the superbowl last year.



Fine, fine...you win...the Packers and the Lions are MUCH better teams that anyone we even have on our schedule - except the packers and the Lions who will once again suck when they play us, but are considered contenders when you play them.

Does that about cover it for you?


PUUUUUUHLEEEEASE!!

If you honestly believe that either Green Bay or Detroit are better than either Washington or Carolina then I seriously question whether or not the nice nurses should continue to allow you to play on the computer or if they should take you in for an enema and a shot.

GRANTED, neither Carolina nor Washington looked particularly potent (After all, they're 0-2), but their other losses came at the hands of other teams that are predicted to go deep into the Play-Offs as well.
Only Detroit can claim that in your opponents list.

Yes, I think the level of competition the Bears have faced thus far - and most of last season - is low.
Heck, it's no secret you guys had a soft schedule last season, and a soft schedule this season.
The highest ranked Offense you beat last season was #12 (Atlanta).
Your team is NOT a dynastic power.
Get over it.

Caine
if i folowed this little disagreement right i don't think he was saying the packers or the lions are a super power house. he was saying that so far this season neither are the redskins or panthers. all four of these teams are 0-2. both of our teams will play this week against the best team they have played so far this season. the winner will then be the best tean until we meet again or one of us win the division. bottom line is we are a top 10 offense (7th) and top 5 defense (5th), the vikes are top 15 offense (13th) and top 10 deffense (7th). sunday will tell all for both teams


On the Viking wins - I will be the first to admit, publicly and openly - that neither the Skins nor the Panthers fielded their best Offenses.
Washington is plagued by not being able to find the "drive" gear, and Carolina is hurting - badly - with a fractured O-Line and the absence of Smith.
Is our current defensive ranking a bit deceptive?
It might be.

Our Offensive ranking, however, isn't.
Neither team fields a slouch Defense...in fact, Carolina's "D" is pretty damn good.
While I am less than enthused about our inability to finish drives thus far, I am encouraged by our ability to move the ball against two pretty good "D" units.

Now, when I look at whom the Bears have destroyed, I can only say, "No wonder".
Green Bay is a team in shambles.
On Packer fans actually thought Woodson would boost their sieve of a secondary, their LB corps is anchored on a decent LB (Barnett) but hinges on a rookie (Hawk) and their front 4 has Kampman...and that's about all.
KGB can't stop the run at gunpoint.
Detroit is always one play away from self-destruction.
A few months with a new HC and new plan isn't going to change that.
On paper, they have a fantastic "D"...but that has seldom translated to "on the field".


So, when we talk about quality of opponents, I honestly feel that the Vikings have faced better teams - even beat up - than Chicago has.
Does that mean that WE are better?
Nope.
Not at all.
It just means that we stand a very good chance of winning this game.

Your team has had the luxury of playing - and destroying - a couple of bad teams.
That works in your favor.
Your "D" reinforces their belief in their own dominance, and your "O" starts to believe that they can carry the team.
And, in this game, belief is critical.
So, your team has confidence comming in...

...but so do we.
After all, we knocked off a couple of teams that made it to the post season last year.
Something we couldn't do last year.
So, our confidence is rising as well.

We might lose.
If our "O" doesn't come in firing and disrupt your "D", if we allow your "O" to build momentum, if we shoot ourselves in the foot with stupid penalties and turn overs - like we did last year - we will wind up 2-1.
However, we have the ability, so long as we play OUR game, to stop your Offense cold.
And we have the ability to chip away at your "D", and steal a game from under your nose.

Of course, that works both ways.
Your team is good enough to do the same to us...we all recognize that.

It's going to come down to which team keeps their heads in the game better.
Which team comes with their "A" game, and leaves it all on the field.
If one or the other lets up - even for a play or two - they will lose.
It's that simple.

For us, this game is huge.
If we knock off Chicago, we prove to ourselves that we CAN face up to the league powers and win.
It makes our upcomming games with Seattle and New England winable.
It validates our new system, our new coach, and our new players (The jury is till out on the new uniforms, however).

If you win, however, you simply confirm what the sports writers have been saying all year.
Not that that isn't good, but no one really EXPECTS us to win.
Except US.

So, I look forward to this game.
This is where we Viking fans find out just how good of a team, and system, we have this season.
No excuses, Chicago is at 100%, and we're as healthy as we're going to be all season.
And, for us, in the Division, this one is for "First Blood".

I hope that explains how some of us feel...and why we have been saying what we've been saying.
In our eyes, we've already faced two very good defensive teams, and stolen victories.


Our 1st eight weeks are the meat of our schedule.
No one expected us to start 2-0, much less 3-0.
If we can finish week 8 being 5-2 or better (Our bye week is in there), we have one hell of a shot at going to the post season.
And, after our past few disappointing seasons, we're pretty pumped about that.

Caine

whackthepack
09-22-2006, 11:28 AM
"4th" wrote:


"Ltrey33" wrote:


"4th" wrote:


"Slade" wrote:


all right people, lets settle down now. here are the facts:

Vikes & Bears are 2-0
Bears played 2 scrubs
Vikes played 2 decent teams
Vikings O is better than last year & D is good
Bears D is great (secondary is slow, but good)
Bears O is decent
Vikes will get no love if we win
Bears will be the best thing since sliced bread if they win
Grossman is good, not great



Come on now. The deadskins and panthers both suck now. They are no where close to the teams they were last year.
Hell the redskins qb is worse than the bears.



How can you say that they suck after two games? Goodness gracious....they were both playoff teams last year and they're both pretty talented overall. You Bears fans sure do like to jump to early conclusions!



Lets see. The redskins looked like crap in both games. No offense vs the vikings and cowboys.
The Panthers got smoked by the falcons. Steve smith did not play in either game, The running game for the panthers is pathetic.
Stop with "They were playoff teams last year" excuse.
If you use that excuse then the Lions are better than both of these teams because they lost by only 3 pts to the teams that went to the superbowl last year.




You have to be kidding me!

Remind me who did the Bears play in the playoffs in January?

Let me guess, the Carolina Panthers!

Who won that game?

The Carolina Panthers!
Actually it wasn't even as close as the score indicates the Bears got beat soundly!




And didn't the Bears play the Redskins last year?
Yes they did, and the results from the game?
The Bears Lost!


We have played 2 playoff teams from last year, your club has played the cellar dweller Packers and third place Lions from last year!
And both teams are worse than they were last year, the Pack is lucky if they win 2 games this year!


Your team has played cupcakes, and the Vikes have played playoff contending teams!

Which has prepared which team better for this game the Vikes schedule and we will see how your team does with it's 1st test!

Angrybearsfan
09-22-2006, 11:53 AM
If the Vikings go into this game thinking that they played a good WSH and CAR team, then they might be in for a rude awakening.
It doesnt matter what any team did last year, bottom line is the Bears are playing much better now and the Vikings are barely scratching the surface of average play.

WSH and CAR were great teams last year.
WSH got a bunch of FAs as usual and a new playbook and with no Portis they look like the Bears with Krenzel as QB.
Last year they were great, this year they have stunk for two games and it wasnt because of the opponent.
They cannot move the ball and score.

CAR relies on Steve Smith.
Without him, they are a bad team.

I think it very well may be the Vikings who will be exposed for what they are.
An average team playing below average, racking up lots of penalties and getting lucky on several plays.

I like the new coach and the philosophy AND the running game.
But I just dont see any of it clicking yet.
BJ makes few mistakes, but the rest of the team more than makes up for that with dropped passes, penalties, etc.

Dont be surprised if the Bears play un-Bear like football and march all over the field.

Prophet
09-22-2006, 12:02 PM
"Angrybearsfan" wrote:


If the Vikings go into this game thinking that they played a good WSH and CAR team, then they might be in for a rude awakening.
It doesnt matter what any team did last year, bottom line is the Bears are playing much better now and the Vikings are barely scratching the surface of average play.

WSH and CAR were great teams last year.
WSH got a bunch of FAs as usual and a new playbook and with no Portis they look like the Bears with Krenzel as QB.
Last year they were great, this year they have stunk for two games and it wasnt because of the opponent.
They cannot move the ball and score.

CAR relies on Steve Smith.
Without him, they are a bad team.

I think it very well may be the Vikings who will be exposed for what they are.
An average team playing below average, racking up lots of penalties and getting lucky on several plays.

I like the new coach and the philosophy AND the running game.
But I just dont see any of it clicking yet.
BJ makes few mistakes, but the rest of the team more than makes up for that with dropped passes, penalties, etc.

Dont be surprised if the Bears play un-Bear like football and march all over the field.


On the contrary, the Bears are coming in overconfident after beating up on two pathetic teams.
That is even recognized in Vegas, where it matters, where people make their money off of making the odds.

I agree that the Vikings are not clicking yet, that is obvious and not surprising since there's a new coaching staff and new O and D schemes.
They got the job done against two teams that were good and we still don't know how they will be this year.
Sure, Steve Smith did not play and he did torch the Vikings when they had a mentally challenged coaching staff.
Clinton Portis did play against the Vikings and rushed 10 times for 39 yds and a TD and had 2 receptions for 11 yds.
So don't buy that gibberish.

To think that Rex Grossman, who nearly doubled his career TDs this season is a hero is much too early to tell.
This is the Bears first test.
It is the Vikings third test.


The Bears are overrated after beating up on a few chumps.
Reality will slap you in the face harder than your cross-dressing lover ever has.
You think you're angry now, wait until Sunday afternoon.
Better start making up your excuses now, you will need them.
You don't appear to have the mental aptitude for rational thinking so excuses are your only option.

thevikingfan
09-22-2006, 12:19 PM
Its funny how the devision rivalries have changed so much.First the biggest rivalry was the bears and packers,the when chicago started sucking it was packers and minnesota and now that the packers suck the biggest rivalry is chicago and minnesota.

Tbets
09-22-2006, 03:19 PM
Sep. 24
Chicago

10 a.m.
at Minnesota

Favorite
CHI CHI CHI

Point spread -3½ -3½ -3½
Total










35o/u 35o/u 35o/u

Total money line
-110 -110 -110


from Vegas.com




09/24
13:00 ET Chicago

-3.5
-200










Minnesota 3.5

+170


"where it matters, where people make their money off of making the odds."

i will take the bears and the under! and so do most of the experts.


It sure is nice to see greenbay struggle. I have admired brett the pill popper for a long time but i love to see greenbay loose!

ultravikingfan
09-22-2006, 03:42 PM
"thevikingfan" wrote:


Its funny how the devision rivalries have changed so much.First the biggest rivalry was the bears and packers,the when chicago started sucking it was packers and minnesota and now that the packers suck the biggest rivalry is chicago and minnesota.


Regardless of a teams record, the rivalries have not changed.


When playing a division opponent you can toss records all out the window.

Prophet
09-22-2006, 03:45 PM
That's the point.
When people come in here spouting off 35-7 Bears blowouts with a few one-liners like Vikings suck it is tough to read their posts.

I'll take the under and the Vikes and, yes, I am an expert.
8)

Caine
09-22-2006, 03:57 PM
"Angrybearsfan" wrote:


If the Vikings go into this game thinking that they played a good WSH and CAR team, then they might be in for a rude awakening.
It doesnt matter what any team did last year, bottom line is the Bears are playing much better now and the Vikings are barely scratching the surface of average play.

Why is it that people whose team just faced two perrennial losers always want everyone to forget last season?
Did either Detroit or Green Bay suddenly metamorph into respectable franchises?
Not by anyone else's reckoning but yours it would seem.


And I stated - quite clearly - that we faced two beat up Offenses, but two very solid Defenses.

"Angrybearsfan]WSH" wrote:



Portis played versus the Vikes.
You need a new excuse.

"Angrybearsfan]CAR" wrote:
[quote]

Correction, they are a bad OFFENSE.
That Defense is still a terror.

"Angrybearsfan]I" wrote:
[quote]

Sometimes it's better to be lucky than good.
Also, it may very well be the Bears who are exposed for what they are, a slightly above average team who has built their reputation by beating up on hapless opponents.
It's easy to look good when you face weak competition.
Your schedule is only going to get tougher...

"Angrybearsfan]I" wrote:
[quote]

All things we can improve upon.
You better hope we haven't yet...

[quote author=Angrybearsfan]Dont be surprised if the Bears play un-Bear like football and march all over the field.


Don't be suprised if the Vikings play very Viking like football and send you back to Chicago at 2-1.

Caine

Prophet
09-22-2006, 04:03 PM
One other point for angryboybearsfan.
The fake field goal was no accident.
Ferraro was with the Panthers special team's coaching staff last year and the Vikings worked on the fake field goal during the week.
There was nothing accidental or lucky about that play.

I put the over/under on the 10 bears fans revisiting the site after the game at 1 if they lose and 27 if they win.

aceclown
09-22-2006, 04:04 PM
Caine= #1 gangster on pp.o

4th and 26
09-22-2006, 06:13 PM
"Prophet" wrote:


"Angrybearsfan" wrote:


If the Vikings go into this game thinking that they played a good WSH and CAR team, then they might be in for a rude awakening.
It doesnt matter what any team did last year, bottom line is the Bears are playing much better now and the Vikings are barely scratching the surface of average play.

WSH and CAR were great teams last year.
WSH got a bunch of FAs as usual and a new playbook and with no Portis they look like the Bears with Krenzel as QB.
Last year they were great, this year they have stunk for two games and it wasnt because of the opponent.
They cannot move the ball and score.

CAR relies on Steve Smith.
Without him, they are a bad team.

I think it very well may be the Vikings who will be exposed for what they are.
An average team playing below average, racking up lots of penalties and getting lucky on several plays.

I like the new coach and the philosophy AND the running game.
But I just dont see any of it clicking yet.
BJ makes few mistakes, but the rest of the team more than makes up for that with dropped passes, penalties, etc.

Dont be surprised if the Bears play un-Bear like football and march all over the field.


On the contrary, the Bears are coming in overconfident after beating up on two pathetic teams.
That is even recognized in Vegas, where it matters, where people make their money off of making the odds.

I agree that the Vikings are not clicking yet, that is obvious and not surprising since there's a new coaching staff and new O and D schemes.
They got the job done against two teams that were good and we still don't know how they will be this year.
Sure, Steve Smith did not play and he did torch the Vikings when they had a mentally challenged coaching staff.
Clinton Portis did play against the Vikings and rushed 10 times for 39 yds and a TD and had 2 receptions for 11 yds.
So don't buy that gibberish.

To think that Rex Grossman, who nearly doubled his career TDs this season is a hero is much too early to tell.
This is the Bears first test.
It is the Vikings third test.


The Bears are overrated after beating up on a few chumps.
Reality will slap you in the face harder than your cross-dressing lover ever has.
You think you're angry now, wait until Sunday afternoon.
Better start making up your excuses now, you will need them.
You don't appear to have the mental aptitude for rational thinking so excuses are your only option.




Why do we need excuses after playing the vikings.
we will be the team that is 3-0.
The bears are overrated for beating the packers and lions yet the vikings squeaked 2 victories with last second fieldgoals to beat 2 bad teams.

4th and 26
09-22-2006, 06:14 PM
"thevikingfan" wrote:


Its funny how the devision rivalries have changed so much.First the biggest rivalry was the bears and packers,the when chicago started sucking it was packers and minnesota and now that the packers suck the biggest rivalry is chicago and minnesota.



Correction,
The packers have Always sucked.

4th and 26
09-22-2006, 06:17 PM
"Prophet" wrote:


That's the point.
When people come in here spouting off 35-7 Bears blowouts with a few one-liners like Vikings suck it is tough to read their posts.

I'll take the under and the Vikes and, yes, I am an expert.
8)



The vikings do suck in the eyes of a bears fan the same way the bears suck in the eyes of a vikings fan.
We are suppose to hate the other team but we can agree that no one sucks as much as the packers.

4th and 26
09-22-2006, 06:19 PM
"Prophet" wrote:


One other point for angryboybearsfan.
The fake field goal was no accident.
Ferraro was with the Panthers special team's coaching staff last year and the Vikings worked on the fake field goal during the week.
There was nothing accidental or lucky about that play.

I put the over/under on the 10 bears fans revisiting the site after the game at 1 if they lose and 27 if they win.


I will be here if the lose so make your odds 2 is they lose.

Caine
09-23-2006, 04:09 AM
"4th" wrote:

Why do we need excuses after playing the vikings.
we will be the team that is 3-0.
The bears are overrated for beating the packers and lions yet the vikings squeaked 2 victories with last second fieldgoals to beat 2 bad teams.



Again, for the umpteenth time, Washington and Carolina are NOT "bad teams".
They are good teams with malfunctioning Offenses.
In Washington's case, it's their new OC and new system...the team isn't clicking yet.
If and when they do, that Offense has enough talent onboard to score some points, and their Defense is already very solid.

Carolina's "O" was decimated by injury...we were fortunate enough to play them in their weakened condition.
There is NOTHING wrong with their Defense, however.


Green Bay and Detroit are not good teams in anyone's minds save for the actual fans of those teams.
They are not good offensively or defensively.
They are bottom of the NFL franchises right now (And, hopefully, for many more years...especially in Green Bay's case).

While you may not WANT those differences to be significant, they are.
Very much so.
Your wishing them to be irrelevant does not make them so.
Even if you wish really, really hard.

Now, again repeating myself, does that make us the "better" team?
Not automatically.
That will be decided on Sunday.
If the Bears win, we have to conceed that you are - for now - better.
If the Vikings win, you have to conceed - for all time - that the Bears are pretenders to the throne and that the Vikings are a far superior team in all aspects and that they have much cooler and smarter fans...





..ok, that may be asking a bit much.
I'll settle for asking you to conceed, for now, that we are the better team if we win.

But, the bottom line is, as we Viking fans look across the landscape of the NFL, we're pretty darn proud of the fact that our guys were able to handle 2 potential play-off teams right out of the gate...while your team beat up a handful of Girlscouts and the Avon lady.
:P

Finally, if we want to talk about injuries, we've already lost a handful of players for the season.
Tank Williams, Chad Greenway, Dovonte Edwards, and Erasmus James are all gone for the season, and Marcus Robinson, Troy Williamson, and Artis Hicks are banged up.
Yet, our Defense - the unit most affected - played pretty solid games.
We overcame our losses, Washington and Carolina didn't.


I think we're qualified to feel a bit of pride in the way our boys have withstood the storm thus far.

Caine

whackthepack
09-23-2006, 12:12 PM
"4th" wrote:


"Prophet" wrote:


"Angrybearsfan" wrote:


If the Vikings go into this game thinking that they played a good WSH and CAR team, then they might be in for a rude awakening.
It doesnt matter what any team did last year, bottom line is the Bears are playing much better now and the Vikings are barely scratching the surface of average play.

WSH and CAR were great teams last year.
WSH got a bunch of FAs as usual and a new playbook and with no Portis they look like the Bears with Krenzel as QB.
Last year they were great, this year they have stunk for two games and it wasnt because of the opponent.
They cannot move the ball and score.

CAR relies on Steve Smith.
Without him, they are a bad team.

I think it very well may be the Vikings who will be exposed for what they are.
An average team playing below average, racking up lots of penalties and getting lucky on several plays.

I like the new coach and the philosophy AND the running game.
But I just dont see any of it clicking yet.
BJ makes few mistakes, but the rest of the team more than makes up for that with dropped passes, penalties, etc.

Dont be surprised if the Bears play un-Bear like football and march all over the field.


On the contrary, the Bears are coming in overconfident after beating up on two pathetic teams.
That is even recognized in Vegas, where it matters, where people make their money off of making the odds.

I agree that the Vikings are not clicking yet, that is obvious and not surprising since there's a new coaching staff and new O and D schemes.
They got the job done against two teams that were good and we still don't know how they will be this year.
Sure, Steve Smith did not play and he did torch the Vikings when they had a mentally challenged coaching staff.
Clinton Portis did play against the Vikings and rushed 10 times for 39 yds and a TD and had 2 receptions for 11 yds.
So don't buy that gibberish.

To think that Rex Grossman, who nearly doubled his career TDs this season is a hero is much too early to tell.
This is the Bears first test.
It is the Vikings third test.


The Bears are overrated after beating up on a few chumps.
Reality will slap you in the face harder than your cross-dressing lover ever has.
You think you're angry now, wait until Sunday afternoon.
Better start making up your excuses now, you will need them.
You don't appear to have the mental aptitude for rational thinking so excuses are your only option.




Why do we need excuses after playing the vikings.
we will be the team that is 3-0.
The bears are overrated for beating the packers and lions yet the vikings squeaked 2 victories with last second fieldgoals to beat 2 bad teams.



I posted this already, but I guess these Bears fans have really short memories (they also have something else is really short) so I thought I should post it again!






You have to be kidding me!

Remind me who did the Bears play in the playoffs in January?

Let me guess, the Carolina Panthers!

Who won that game?

The Carolina Panthers!
Actually it wasn't even as close as the score indicates the Bears got beat soundly!




And didn't the Bears play the Redskins last year?
Yes they did, and the results from the game?
The Bears Lost!


We have played 2 playoff teams from last year, and your club has played the cellar dweller Packers and third place Lions from last year!
And both teams are worse than they were last year, the Pack is lucky if they win 2 games this year!


Your team has played cupcakes, and the Vikes have played playoff contending teams!

Which has prepared which team better for this game, the Vikes schedule or the Bears schedule?
We will see how your team does with it's 1st test, this is our 3rd test and so far we have passed both tests!

Biolink
09-23-2006, 06:45 PM
The Redskin's game was Kyle Orton's first game and we only lost that because of his ineptness.

Caine
09-23-2006, 06:56 PM
"Biolink" wrote:


The Redskin's game was Kyle Orton's first game and we only lost that because of his ineptness.


And your point is...?

Cincinnati was his third game....another loss.
Cleveland was his fourth game...another loss
Pittsburgh was his thirteenth game...another loss.

The FACT here is that everytime the Bears faced a legitimate OFFENSE (With the exception of Atlanta), they crumbled.
You faced exactly ONE top 10 Offense all last year (Cincinnati), and got whipped.
The rest of the season, you fed on the bottom 3rd of the NFL...no wonder you looked so "good".

C'mon back and sing me a song about how great your team is once you've beaten a few "ranked" teams.

Caine

Zeus
09-23-2006, 08:55 PM
"4th" wrote:


"thevikingfan" wrote:


Its funny how the devision rivalries have changed so much.First the biggest rivalry was the bears and packers,the when chicago started sucking it was packers and minnesota and now that the packers suck the biggest rivalry is chicago and minnesota.



Correction,
The packers have Always sucked.




Except for their 3 Super Bowl titles and 9 other NFL titles, sure, I can see why you'd say that.

Ignorance is cool because you don't know you're stupid.

=Z=

digital420
09-24-2006, 01:55 AM
grossman is gonna wear shoes..

wait for this to change after the first 2 series when he gets rushed, slips and falls, looses the ball, and generally can't find himeslf.

after that, watch for the phear of his knee to set in, and the game is over.

DiGiTaL

Tbets
09-24-2006, 12:47 PM
very ugly game so far. both offensive sets look terrible.