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Bleedspurple
09-18-2004, 08:25 PM
Ok probably gonna get flamed like crazy for this. Does anyone else think that losing Monday night could be advantageous at all? 1) No pressure to stay undefeated..just get that first loss out of the way. (its gona happen eventually). 2) Gets the Vikes back below the radar for pressure. They are moving up quick in power polls and exposure, and a loss would put them back into underdog status. If we do win that would puts tons of pressure on us again which I don't particularily like having... (see '98 or '00). I'm not saying I want to see a loss but would it really hurt that bad?

zzbudzz
09-18-2004, 08:31 PM
i understand what you mean, but i would really rather see the vikes crush the eagles!

vikeroo
09-18-2004, 08:33 PM
I prefer that they beat the Eagles since #1 it is an NFC foe 2# they are a common opponent for the entire division (NFC North) #3 Tie breaker in case of possible Home Field situation in playoffs down the line... If you are going to lose, lose the games vs the other conference...

muchluv4smoot
09-18-2004, 09:16 PM
"Bleedspurple" wrote:

Ok probably gonna get flamed like crazy for this. Does anyone else think that losing Monday night could be advantageous at all? 1) No pressure to stay undefeated..just get that first loss out of the way. (its gona happen eventually). 2) Gets the Vikes back below the radar for pressure. They are moving up quick in power polls and exposure, and a loss would put them back into underdog status. If we do win that would puts tons of pressure on us again which I don't particularily like having... (see '98 or '00). I'm not saying I want to see a loss but would it really hurt that bad?




Yeah, I said the same thing in another thread, that a loss would be good for this team, especially with all the media talk about how good they are. I think if we would have lost an earlygame last year, we would have had a much better season.

I want us to win, but if we loose, I won't be too upset and it will be a learning experience for our team, and might be better for them in the longrun than a win would be.

VikingsTw
09-18-2004, 09:41 PM
Wow guys this is something u talk about AFTER a loss, not now. There are some good points but as we all know we play our best ball when we are playing better teams. Last year we really played well against our best competition. Exept the Rams game. I expect us to win this game and i hope we dont loose to this team.

sdvikefan
09-18-2004, 10:03 PM
Everybody in here wants our team to win. But there are certain losses that are harder to swallow than others and certain losses that can actually help a team. To me there is no doubt that the early losses last year of both Philly and New England helped spark their amazing winning streaks. Think about how much doubt everybody had in McNabb after the season start, and all the rumors that were going on about how the Patriots hate Belichick. They became underdogs and set out to prove otherwise.

I hope the Vikings win, but a loss here is not necessarily a bad thing, even if it causes us to fall a game behind the Packers who will probably win. I think it would keep us focused.

But vikingstw you are absolutely right about the Vikings rising to the occasion. Playing a great team, in the national spotlight...the Vikings usually do real well in that situation.

packmanxxxi
09-19-2004, 12:13 AM
Ahh yes- preparing for the inevitable already... the sign of a true fan

TheFloridianVikingFan
09-19-2004, 12:31 AM
i hope we beat philly and loose to some other team just cuz i hate T.O....

SKOL
09-19-2004, 01:33 AM
I wouldn't mind an early loss, as long as it's to an AFC team. Losing to Philly could make the difference between having a first round bye and having to play on the road on wild card weekend.

RK.
09-19-2004, 03:33 AM
:violent3:
Ok probably gonna get flamed like crazy for this. :violent3:

The only reason we should lose a game is if someone beats us. :tongue:

UkViking
09-19-2004, 04:15 AM
I think the Vikes will win every game,(maybe blind loyalty) :cheers: ,but one player i don,t want to lose to is T.O.

hawaiianvike21
09-19-2004, 06:15 AM
I see your point and yess it could get the media off our back and put the media on the eagles back in most cases could happen since we dont ever seem to win on the road. Would you want all the pressure from the media or pressure on us if we win which could be a bad thing.

VikingWorldOrder
09-19-2004, 08:24 AM
"packmanxxxi" wrote:

Ahh yes- preparing for the inevitable already... the sign of a true fan

Football is like a chess match involving where and when to strike. We are merely discussing the mental aspects of the game unlike some that are just plain mental :tool: But of course no one EVER talks about the possibility of the Slack losing a game :angryfire:

Sorry for the flame but it had to be done :)

LosAngelis
09-19-2004, 12:01 PM
"Bleedspurple" wrote:

Ok probably gonna get flamed like crazy for this. Does anyone else think that losing Monday night could be advantageous at all? 1) No pressure to stay undefeated..just get that first loss out of the way. (its gona happen eventually). 2) Gets the Vikes back below the radar for pressure. They are moving up quick in power polls and exposure, and a loss would put them back into underdog status. If we do win that would puts tons of pressure on us again which I don't particularily like having... (see '98 or '00). I'm not saying I want to see a loss but would it really hurt that bad?

That's weird, because I was about to start a thread in which I was going to predict Minnesota losing to the Eagles Monday, but then that the Vikes would beat them in the playoffs.

I agree. I think Tice is a knucklehead who believed all his own press after going 6-0 last year, and then couldn't hold the ship afloat when met with a little adversity.

I think a little adversity early would go a long way in helping the Vikes.

So here's my prediction: whoever loses Monday will make it to the NFC championship. Against the Pack, of course.

purplepat
09-19-2004, 12:06 PM
"vikeroo" wrote:

I prefer that they beat the Eagles since #1 it is an NFC foe 2# they are a common opponent for the entire division (NFC North) #3 Tie breaker in case of possible Home Field situation in playoffs down the line... If you are going to lose, lose the games vs the other conference...

Agree 100% with this statement. You can't overestimate the value of home field to the Vikings in the playoffs, or how tough it would be to win on the road in someplace like Philly where it will be cold and windy.

ItalianStallion
09-19-2004, 12:33 PM
The vikings could easily win this game if the defense plays very well. However that is a big IF. We need to get over our road woes. I am not saying the vikes will go undefeated this season, but I will never be cheering for a loss, even if it "might" help them focus. Remember, we lost by a game last year...

Foreman44
09-19-2004, 03:29 PM
The defense must play extremely well and I imagine we'll need a few "breaks" to go our way. Of course, the offense must play up to potential as well with the running game success being critical to opening up the flight paths for Moss & co.
The key: Get an early lead!

hovan
09-19-2004, 08:30 PM
"Bleedspurple" wrote:

Ok probably gonna get flamed like crazy for this. Does anyone else think that losing Monday night could be advantageous at all? 1) No pressure to stay undefeated..just get that first loss out of the way. (its gona happen eventually). 2) Gets the Vikes back below the radar for pressure. They are moving up quick in power polls and exposure, and a loss would put them back into underdog status. If we do win that would puts tons of pressure on us again which I don't particularily like having... (see '98 or '00). I'm not saying I want to see a loss but would it really hurt that bad?

We need all the wins we can get...how else are we gonna go 16-0? :twisted:

eelpout72
09-19-2004, 10:15 PM
Certainly there are things that can be taken from a loss, but in no way is a loss ever advantageous. If it was we should try to lose.

cajunvike
09-20-2004, 12:39 AM
I agree that not finishing the season undefeated can help to keep a team's head on straight, but I don't want the Vikes to lose to the Iggles. I hate that the media always makes more noise about McCrab than Daunte. A loss to the Iggles would only add fuel to that fire!

As regards losses in the season being a positive situation, I am reminded of my senior year in high school. We were 6-0 and coming off of annihilating our long time rivals by a score of 40-16 (their point only coming against our scrubs late in the game) when we lost 3-0 (in OT) to a district rival. The silence on the bus ride back was palpable and our coach used that stunning loss as a reminder that we needed to keep our focus on each game. Needless to say, we did regain our focus and did not lose another game that year (which culminated in our winning the first state championship for our school since its football team started playing 11-man football). But enough rambling about my glory days...the lesson is clear, losses can galvanize a team to fulfill its potential (if used as positive motivation).

That being said, I hope that the Vikings win all of their game (up to and including the Super Bowl).