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pokeyisme
08-26-2006, 01:36 PM
here is a position by positing ranking for QB to d-fence




http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/5857526?FSO1&ATT=HCP&GT1=8485

pokeyisme
08-26-2006, 01:45 PM
QB------
31. Minnesota
Brad Johnson has been in the NFL for 15 years, and he's managed to stay healthy through all 16 games only three times. At age 38, is this going to be the fourth? When the inevitable injury comes, the Vikings are in trouble. Mike McMahon scrambles far too often and has no touch on his passes, and if people think Vince Young needs a lot of preparation before he's ready to play in the NFL, where does that leave Tavaris Jackson?

running back-----
14. Minnesota
The staff of Football Outsiders has loved Chester Taylor ever since he outplayed Jamal Lewis (on a per-play basis) in 2004 and then again in 2005. He has a lot of upside, especially running behind former Chiefs fullback Tony Richardson. However, this is another team like Chicago, with good depth and some potential but not a lot of top-shelf talent. Last year Mewelde Moore was worth nearly 10 DPAR each as a rusher and as a receiver; if Taylor can establish himself as the starter, Moore would be a superlative third-down back. The Vikings round out the depth chart with Ciatrick Fason and the most euphonious name in the league, Adimchinobe Echemandu. The Minnesota backs have a lot of potential if they can each just find a niche and fill it.

RECEIVERS------
17. Minnesota
For proof that head coach Brad Childress learned under Andy Reid, look no further than his decision to try playing the season with little-respected receivers. Travis Taylor, Koren Robinson, Marcus Robinson, and Troy Williamson? The difference between this and Philadelphia is that all four of these players have talent, even if in some cases it has never been fully realized. Meanwhile, Jermaine Wiggins and Jim Kleinsasser form a potent tight end duo, although Wiggins is the one who is a valuable receiver.

OFFENSIVE LINES-------
8. Minnesota Vikings
You may wonder why the Vikings went after Seattle guard Steve Hutchinson with such vigor — why would any team employ the poison-pill contract strategy and put out a seven-year, $49 million offer sheet, with $16 million guaranteed, as bait for a guard? A left tackle, maybe, but Hutchinson's is not generally regarded as a financially elite position. From Minnesota's point of view, there were two reasons — first, Hutchinson is an immense road-grader with a seriously nasty streak who is so strong, he can push a defensive tackle across a line, sideways, against his own momentum. Second, the Vikings' line in 2005 was a real disaster, as the team ranked 31st in Adjusted Line Yards and 29th in sacks allowed.

Center Matt Birk, the Harvard grad who manned the middle for the franchise's two best rushing seasons (2000, 2002), missed the entire 2005 season with hip and sports hernia injuries. The four-time Pro Bowler is expected back this year. LT Bryant McKinnie was the only Minnesota lineman to start every game. With Hutchinson next to him, the 6-8, 343-pound McKinnie might be part of the best left-to-center starting battery this season.

DEFENSIVE LINES--------
18. Minnesota
Pat Williams' presence made a big difference on Minnesota's run defense, which improved from terrible to average, and his absence made a big difference on Buffalo's run defense, which declined from great to terrible. Many analysts called Kevin Williams a reach when the Vikings took him ninth overall in 2003, but he's developed into a very good player. Minnesota's starting ends, Kenechi Udeze and Erasmus James, haven't yet lived up to their potential. Both were first-round draft picks.


LINEBACKERS------
27. Vikings
E.J. Henderson is an adequate run defender who must leave the field on passing downs. Ben Leber, a free agent who played in San Diego's 3-4 scheme, is a stack-and-fill defender coming off a foot injury. Dontarrious Thomas is currently listed as the starter in the middle, but Thomas is a nickel backer at best; his average tackle in 2005 came a league-high 8.6 yards downfield. Napoleon Harris, a free agent bust last season, will get a chance to unseat Thomas. If rookie Chad Greenway develops quickly, he'll play the Will position and Henderson will move inside.


DEFENSIVE BACKS------

15. Minnesota
The Vikings have a better secondary than they put on the field last year, and yet most of the starters remain the same. Cornerbacks Antoine Winfield and Fred Smoot both had sub-par years last year. Winfield ranked 73rd among 83 cornerbacks with a 46 percent Stop Rate, and was tied with Quentin Jammer for most touchdowns allowed. Is this the same man that previous Viking owners hired a private plane to steal away from the New York Jets? Smoot was better, but far from the caliber of player who signs a six-year, $36 million contract. Smoot's Stop Rate of 48 percent ranked him an expensive 65th.

On the other hand, Darren Sharper was everything the Vikings could have asked for. Sharper provided excellent cover skills as well as good run stopping ability. His nine picks ranked him second only to Deltha O'Neal and Ty Law, and there were no touchdowns where game charters listed him as the defender in coverage. Safety Tank Williams was supposed to play opposite Sharper, but a broken kneecap will cost him the season; Dwight Smith, waived by New Orleans, will replace him. Like Williams, Smith is strong against the run, weak in pass coverage. The Vikings drafted hard-hitting Cedric Griffin in the second round. He played both cornerback and safety at Texas and adds versatility.

SPECIAL TEAMS------

17. Vikings: Ryan Longwell replaces Paul Edinger, who kicked his way out of the league by missing too many 33-yard field goals. Longwell is losing leg strength but won't miss many easy ones. Punter Chris Kluwe was excellent early in the 2005 season, averaging 47.6 yards per punt over his first five games, but he tried to kick through a knee injury in the second half of the season and faded badly.Lefty John Torp was signed to compete with Kluwe. Koren Robinson provided a spark on kickoff returns last season, but personal problems cloud his future.. Jason Carter, Troy Williamson, Kevin Kaspar and Mewelde Moore are auditioning for the return jobs. Williamson has the most big-play potential, but he fumbled his first attempt of the preseason.


COACHING STAFFS-------

25. Minnesota
The Vikings replaced Mike Tice with Brad Childress both because of the West Coast Offense Childress ran in Philadelphia and because of the discipline he promised to bring to a team that was embarrassed when four of its players were alleged to be involved in indecent conduct after an infamous boat party. Brad Johnson played well for Minnesota last year, and Johnson's skills are well-suited to the short passing game that Childress favors.


Can new Vikes coach Brad Childress bring more discipline to the club? (Gregory Shamus / Getty Images)

Offensive coordinator Darrell Bevell, formerly the Packers' quarterbacks coach, has a history with Childress that goes back to the University of Wisconsin in the early 1990s, when Bevell was the Badgers' quarterback and Childress was the offensive coordinator. Line coach Pat Morris is a longtime Steve Mariucci assistant who never could get the Lions' line straightened out. The team hired former Tampa Bay defensive backs coach Mike Tomlin as defensive coordinator, and he will use the same Cover-2 defense that Minnesota's NFC North rivals in Chicago and Detroit use.



well there ya have it (of corse this will change when the regular season starts)

boognish
08-26-2006, 02:00 PM
This goofy article has been posted on here about 47 times. It was written a month and a half ago. Ya think the d!ckhead who wrote this still thinks that McMoron will be the backup and that T-Jack isn't worthy to take a snap in the NFL? They'd likely lower their ranking of our RB too, based on the pathetic preseason he's had thus far. a

This garbage is old news.

ultravikingfan
08-26-2006, 04:42 PM
"boognish" wrote:


This goofy article has been posted on here about 47 times. It was written a month and a half ago. Ya think the d!ckhead who wrote this still thinks that McMoron will be the backup and that T-Jack isn't worthy to take a snap in the NFL? They'd likely lower their ranking of our RB too, based on the pathetic preseason he's had thus far. a

This garbage is old news.


It says it was updated yesterday.

boognish
08-26-2006, 06:51 PM
I've read that article before...the narrative hasn't changed at all. Just because Fox reposts it and puts "1 day ago" as the time written is irrelevant. Click on the RB section; that will give you a better idea when the gay ass fantasy list was made...posted 39 days ago.

gregair13
08-26-2006, 06:55 PM
8th oline is about right. i might even go a few spots higher.

and this is more proof that no one likes BJ.
and i think our DB are at least in the top half.

jdxdn99
08-26-2006, 07:46 PM
No way our defensive line is 18.
I'd like to know what this guy is smokin.

NordicNed
08-26-2006, 07:56 PM
Looks to me like someone needs a good boot up their ass... ;D

oakmage
08-27-2006, 12:13 AM
What do you expect from a guy who writes this Napoleon Harris, a free agent bust last season Harris was not a free agent pick up we got him in the Randy Moss trade.
If he can not even get that right then how we to believe anything else are he writes.

olson_10
08-27-2006, 01:14 AM
good, i like those low ratings..more and more doubters to prove wrong

digital420
08-27-2006, 05:19 AM
From Minnesota's point of view, there were two reasons — first, Hutchinson is an immense road-grader with a seriously nasty streak who is so strong, he can push a defensive tackle across a line, sideways, against his own momentum.


now that is sooooo true and DAMN funny!!!!

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