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COJOMAY
05-25-2006, 05:35 AM
http://www.kstp.com/article/stories/S16525.html?cat=7

EDEN PRAIRIE, Minn. (AP) - The Minnesota Vikings haven't given up their plan to build a new stadium, but say they are now looking beyond Anoka County after their $790 million proposal for a complex in Blaine failed to win legislative approval.

Vikings Vice President Lester Bagley said Tuesday that the Blaine proposal may be too political to win approval next year.

"We have a great partnership with Anoka County, but we need a Plan B and Plan C," Bagley told the St. Paul Pioneer Press.

Vikings owner Zygi Wilf "is very much a Plan B and Plan C kind of guy," Bagley said. "There may not be an opportunity in Anoka County. Things change."

However, he wouldn't say what other sites might be considered for a stadium.

Blaine Mayor Tom Ryan and other supporters are discouraged after the Legislature's rejection of the Vikings stadium proposal.

"It's pretty disgusting to have it end this way," Ryan said. "It's sad. This has been four years of work for us."

bigdaddy72_1
05-25-2006, 05:40 AM
this could just f*ck everything up.

this is gonna piss off the wrong people.

BadlandsVikings
05-25-2006, 05:42 AM
Get as many plans as possible, so the team doesn't move.

DarrinNelsonguy
05-25-2006, 05:59 AM
"westvirginiavikings" wrote:

Get as many plans as possible, so the team doesn't move.

Yes, it is always best to keep your options open and there may be big turnover on the Anoka County Board this election year so they may have to go elsewhere if the new board is anti=stadium.

Vikes_King
05-25-2006, 07:06 AM
doesnt matter to me where the stadium is built; as long as it is

olson_10
05-25-2006, 08:21 AM
"westvirginiavikings" wrote:

Get as many plans as possible, so the team doesn't move.
team wont move regardless..but i personally think blaine will realize the money that hosting a superbowl can bring in and change their minds before the january deadline

Vikes_King
05-25-2006, 08:23 AM
blaine has always realised the money a superbowl will bring.. thats why they've been for a fixed or retractable roof throughout this entire thing

its wilf that wanted an outdoor stadium

AngloVike
05-25-2006, 09:21 AM
If there are elections this year then I can see the stadium being raised as one of the main issues. It will be interesting to see how many of the potential candidates will latch onto the anti-stadium banner if they feel if could be a vote winner.
Certainly makes sense for the Vikes to consider other options so that they have a fallback plan should Anoka County want to withdraw from the stadium plan.

MaddenVodkaAddict
05-25-2006, 11:28 AM
"Vikes_King" wrote:

doesnt matter to me where the stadium is built; as long as it is

If you are referring to any location in Minnesota, I must wholeheartedly agree with you. However, if you refer to a location outside of the Minnesota borders, I will feel the same just like when the North Stars moved to Dallas. :cry:

LAVike
05-25-2006, 11:54 AM
Any location in Minnesota? How about Albert Lea? Or Two Harbors? Warroad?

If the state can't get it done, the Vikes could have a stadium-casino, financed by a Native American tribe . . . that'd be nice! Gamblin' and football all in one spot!!

I jest . . . I jest.

NordicNed
05-25-2006, 12:23 PM
I got an Idea,

We have a very large site in CT that is vacant, it's in East Hartford,CT.....Patriots almost made the move here before they got their new stadium...

I'de welcome the Vikes here with open arms....

Sure is nice to Dream....

SharperVikings
05-25-2006, 02:24 PM
Possibly that old site in eden prairie that they wanted to use????

sunny
05-25-2006, 03:16 PM
"LAVike" wrote:

Any location in Minnesota? How about Albert Lea? Or Two Harbors? Warroad?

If the state can't get it done, the Vikes could have a stadium-casino, financed by a Native American tribe . . . that'd be nice! Gamblin' and football all in one spot!!

I jest . . . I jest.

Warroad would be great :shock: The land is cheap compared to the cities.

In one day I could go fishing, lose my shirt in the casino and watch the Vikes beat the crap out of the Packers. And its closer to home. :cool:

NodakPaul
05-25-2006, 03:41 PM
As long as it is in Minnesota, I could give a rats ass about where it is built. I just want it built! :grin:

Economically, I think the team still needs to be located in the Twin Cities. Especially if we want a superbowl venue. There is more than just a stadium that goes into hosting the big game. There are minimum hotel requirements, mass and local public transportation requirements, etc...

Zeus
05-25-2006, 03:42 PM
"NodakPaul" wrote:

As long as it is in Minnesota, I could give a rats jiggly butt about where it is built. I just want it built! :grin:

Purely selfishly - I would like it to be built on the south side of the MN River!

=Z=
(Apple Valleyian)

Prophet
05-25-2006, 03:50 PM
KFFL
Vikings | Wilf may have to consider upgrading the MetrodomeWed, 24 May 2006 19:22:34 -0700

Sid Hartman, of the Star Tribune, reports Minnesota Vikings owner Zygi Wilf will continue working with Anoka County to see if the 2007 Legislature will approve a county tax to help fund a football stadium and a business development. With construction costs soaring, Wilf said that the cost of building stadiums in the future might be prohibitive. With that said, he is going to explore all possibilities of improving the Metrodome for the fans and try to find ways to improve the revenue for the franchise. It might be a longshot, but maybe in the long run the remodeling of the Metrodome would be a lot cheaper than building a new football stadium.

NodakPaul
05-25-2006, 03:58 PM
I doubt he would actually go forward with remodeling the metrodome. My guess is he will look into it so that he can go back to the senate and say, "I have tried everything, including remodeling the metrodome. Nothing will work. The only recourse we have is to build a new stadium..."

vikinginvirginia
05-25-2006, 04:05 PM
"NodakPaul" wrote:

I doubt he would actually go forward with remodeling the metrodome. My guess is he will look into it so that he can go back to the senate and say, "I have tried everything, including remodeling the metrodome. Nothing will work. The only recourse we have is to build a new stadium..."

I think Nodak is right. Everything these guys do, they do because they have a motive, and a reason behind it. Wilf aint a multi-millionaire because he won the lottery. He's smart. Plus, it puts pressure on the county to keep its proposal on the front burner.

COJOMAY
05-25-2006, 04:10 PM
Here's the whole article from the Tribune and other tidbits:

Sid Hartman, Star Tribune

Viking owner Zygi Wilf will continue working with Anoka County to see if the 2007 Legislature will approve a county tax to help fund a football stadium and a business development.

But with prices for concrete and other construction materials soaring, Wilf said Thursday that the cost of building stadiums in the future might be prohibitive. With that said, he is going to explore all possibilities of improving the Metrodome for the fans and try to find ways to improve the revenue for the franchise.

He affirmed what Paul Tagliabue said here last week when the NFL commissioner said the costs to build stadiums have increased so much that it might be impossible to build new stadiums for the San Francisco 49ers and a new team in the Los Angeles area.

So it might be a long shot, but maybe in the long run the remodeling of the Metrodome would be a lot cheaper than building a new football stadium.

Dennis Afton, the Metrodome's director of operations, said there still are plans for widening the concourses, adding bathrooms and doing other things to modernize the building.

I want to make it clear that Wilf prefers a new stadium. He is determined to have the Anoka County deal work. But the Vikings are going to play in the Metrodome for at least a few more years. Maybe there is a way to make the building work out.

With June 2 the date for the final payment for Vikings season tickets, Phil Huebner, director of ticket sales, reports that more than 90 percent of the season tickets have been renewed. The Vikings still have a waiting list of more than 1,500. The Vikings have 230 openings available in the two new Terrace Suites that sell for $4,500 to $4,800. More than 90 percent of those have been sold. The price of those tickets includes food and drinks in the boxes.

Ex-Gophers wide receiver Aaron Hosack, still on the Vikings roster, finished third in receptions in the NFL Europe league with 36 catches for 473 yards and four touchdowns for the Frankfurt Galaxy. ... Tarvaris Jackson, the Alabama State quarterback drafted in the second round, doesn't believe the fact that he is from a small school has anything to with his ability to eventually play in the NFL "Yeah, if you can play football, you can play football," Jackson said. "It doesn't matter where you're from. It's just about if your game translates to the NFL -- and I feel like my game does.

"There are big school guys that get a lot of pub or whatever, but they kind of play into the big school-little school thing, saying there's not much competition, but the skill level is pretty much even."

Chad Greenway, the Vikings' No. 1 draft choice, will be married on July 15 in Shorewood, Ill., to Jennifer Capista.

AngloVike
05-25-2006, 04:21 PM
"Prophet" wrote:

KFFL
Vikings | Wilf may have to consider upgrading the MetrodomeWed, 24 May 2006 19:22:34 -0700

Sid Hartman, of the Star Tribune, reports Minnesota Vikings owner Zygi Wilf will continue working with Anoka County to see if the 2007 Legislature will approve a county tax to help fund a football stadium and a business development. With construction costs soaring, Wilf said that the cost of building stadiums in the future might be prohibitive. With that said, he is going to explore all possibilities of improving the Metrodome for the fans and try to find ways to improve the revenue for the franchise. It might be a longshot, but maybe in the long run the remodeling of the Metrodome would be a lot cheaper than building a new football stadium.

I guess this idea could work at a stretch but a few things need to be done. Firstly need the Twins and Gophers out so that any work could be ongoing during off seasons without getting in anyone elses way. I then assume that Wilf would have to purchase the Dome from the MSC, that way it would totally his to do with as he pleases. That way then the Vikes would then have access to ALL money coming in from tickets, suites, concessions etc etc.
I'm not sure what would be needed in terms of improving the local infrastructure as I tend to walk from a local hotel rather than drive when I attend games.
Several immediate downsides would exist with this option though
1. reputation of the Dome - for every fan that likes the place there are at least an equal number that dislike it. This may be due to it being a dome as opposed to open-air but also due to their views on facilities available. These people are likely to still hate the place whatever is done to remodel/upgrade it
2. lack of tailgating lots/parking - the areas open for tailgating and parking have declined in recent years, even since I started attending games in 2000, and the local area doesn't look to be able to reverse this. This will be even harder in the next few years when the present parking at Rapid Park vanishes under the Twins new ballpark. From what I've seen of the area then the space will not be available to replace this. Not only will this affect Vikes fans but will be a big knock back for any plans to host SuperBowls again in Minnesota.

Somehow I just can't see the MSC letting go of the Dome to a private owner as they will always be looking for a slice of the action, even though it is long paid for - either that or they will look to sell it at such an overpriced figure that Zygi will tell them where to get off.
For the architects amongst you - whats the possibility of fitting a retractable roof to the Dome as the structure stands ? is it possible or does it require major structural work ?

Still this gives us a bit more to speculate on until next year :lol:

BadlandsVikings
05-25-2006, 04:25 PM
If the Dome is remodeled, the obsrtucted views need to be the first to go.

cajunvike
05-25-2006, 05:22 PM
"AngloVike" wrote:

"Prophet" wrote:

KFFL
Vikings | Wilf may have to consider upgrading the MetrodomeWed, 24 May 2006 19:22:34 -0700

Sid Hartman, of the Star Tribune, reports Minnesota Vikings owner Zygi Wilf will continue working with Anoka County to see if the 2007 Legislature will approve a county tax to help fund a football stadium and a business development. With construction costs soaring, Wilf said that the cost of building stadiums in the future might be prohibitive. With that said, he is going to explore all possibilities of improving the Metrodome for the fans and try to find ways to improve the revenue for the franchise. It might be a longshot, but maybe in the long run the remodeling of the Metrodome would be a lot cheaper than building a new football stadium.

I guess this idea could work at a stretch but a few things need to be done. Firstly need the Twins and Gophers out so that any work could be ongoing during off seasons without getting in anyone elses way. I then assume that Wilf would have to purchase the Dome from the MSC, that way it would totally his to do with as he pleases. That way then the Vikes would then have access to ALL money coming in from tickets, suites, concessions etc etc.
I'm not sure what would be needed in terms of improving the local infrastructure as I tend to walk from a local hotel rather than drive when I attend games.
Several immediate downsides would exist with this option though
1. reputation of the Dome - for every fan that likes the place there are at least an equal number that dislike it. This may be due to it being a dome as opposed to open-air but also due to their views on facilities available. These people are likely to still hate the place whatever is done to remodel/upgrade it
2. lack of tailgating lots/parking - the areas open for tailgating and parking have declined in recent years, even since I started attending games in 2000, and the local area doesn't look to be able to reverse this. This will be even harder in the next few years when the present parking at Rapid Park vanishes under the Twins new ballpark. From what I've seen of the area then the space will not be available to replace this. Not only will this affect Vikes fans but will be a big knock back for any plans to host SuperBowls again in Minnesota.

Somehow I just can't see the MSC letting go of the Dome to a private owner as they will always be looking for a slice of the action, even though it is long paid for - either that or they will look to sell it at such an overpriced figure that Zygi will tell them where to get off.
For the architects amongst you - whats the possibility of fitting a retractable roof to the Dome as the structure stands ? is it possible or does it require major structural work ?

Still this gives us a bit more to speculate on until next year :lol: Screw all that...if the Twins and Gophers got new stadiums, then so should the Vikes!!! Besides, it makes much more sense to have the football team play in the suburbs (which allows for more parking, easier to get to and more room for expansion and more specialized facilties for football-related activities). If anything, they need to remodel the Metrodome for the Twins...it makes much more sense to have the baseball team playing in the city. Once again, the DUMB BASSES will get it wrong!!! :mad:

COJOMAY
05-25-2006, 05:22 PM
I just can't see this happening. With the Northern Lights area the stadium will be the least of the money making proposition for Zygi. The rentals on the shopping and hospital complex and town houses, etc will make him millions.

mnjamie
05-25-2006, 05:29 PM
Move to the "Ice BoX !!!"

International Fals baby .... no roof, get alot more Canadian support and Labatt's as the official sponsor ... (have never liked Miller Lite)

Said it before, will say it again .... Orlando is the place to be if they move out !!! Mickey and the Vikes baby !!!!

Json
05-25-2006, 06:17 PM
Plan B and or C is Los Angeles. I'd put money on it folks.

VikesfaninWis
05-25-2006, 06:26 PM
Ok everyone.. Who actually owns the Metrodome? I'm pretty sure it is not Wilf, so why in the hell will he have to pay for upgrades? Dam legislators are going to regret the day they turned the Vikes down..

VikesfaninWis
05-25-2006, 06:28 PM
"Json" wrote:

Plan B and or C is Los Angeles. I'd put money on it folks.


You are probably right.. I wouldn't fault Wilf for looking elsewhere for a home for the Vikings. He has done almost everything he could do to keep the Vikings in Minnesota. It is the Legislators of Minnesota that are pushing him out.

badbois
05-25-2006, 06:30 PM
This is a football state and the viking need a stdium. they are the most popular sports team in the area, so they shouldn't be the ones playing in the crapdome.

josdin00
05-25-2006, 06:56 PM
You know, Mayor Daley said a while back that he'd like a second team in Chicago....

COJOMAY
05-25-2006, 07:11 PM
Everyone wants the Vikings except Minnesota's legislators!

singersp
05-26-2006, 12:47 AM
Anoka County and Vikings remain committed to a stadium solution

For Full Story, click here (http://www.hometownsource.com/2006/May/25vikings.html)

BadlandsVikings
05-26-2006, 01:00 AM
Hurry up and build it then.

V4L
05-26-2006, 01:12 AM
Yah, let's do the damn thing!!

Before we end up moving to L.A