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singersp
05-20-2006, 05:25 AM
Posted on Fri, May. 19, 2006

Twins, Gopher stadium bills move into scoring position

BRIAN BAKST
Associated Press

ST. PAUL - The Legislature geared up for a Saturday stadium doubleheader after negotiators signed off on financing plans for the Minnesota Twins and University of Minnesota football team.

Leaders predicted approval of the new stadiums for the current Metrodome roommates. The Twins bill will attract at least 80 House votes out of a possible 134, Speaker Steve Sviggum said. The 67-member Senate is also expected to have votes to spare.

The Twins, who are playing on a year-to-year lease, would get a $522 million ballpark. The Gophers would get a $248 million stadium on the Minneapolis campus. The Vikings must wait until next year to press their stadium case.

For the Twins, it represents the culmination of a decade-long hunt for stadium support. Their 42,000-seat stadium would be built in downtown Minneapolis, with natural grass and no roof. Since 1982, the Twins have played on artificial turf beneath the Metrodome's Teflon lid.

"We are closer than we've ever been to getting this thing done once and for all," said Rep. Brad Finstad, R-New Ulm, the stadium bill's House sponsor.

Gov. Tim Pawlenty said he is ready to sign the bill if the Legislature passes it.

"We don't want to lose our Minnesota Twins," he said. "For a lot of Minnesotans that would be like losing fishing."

The Twins proposal relies on a Hennepin County sales tax amounting to three cents on every $20 purchase. It would be enacted without a voter referendum. Twins owner Carl Pohlad would kick in $130 million.

Major construction probably wouldn't begin until 2007, with the stadium slated to open for the 2010 season.

Twins Sports Inc. president Jerry Bell said he can finally see daylight after fighting so hard for so long public subsidies.

"It's like winning the World Series, you don't know what to say," he said.

Dann Dobson, a stadium tax opponent, said critics won't go down without a fight. "We will look into legal options," he said.

The Gophers hope to begin moving roads this summer to make room for the 50,000-seat stadium.

The deal came together after Democratic senators dropped their proposal that would have created a new sports memorabilia tax to help pay for the stadium. Another big step was the reduction in a proposed student fee from $50 a year to $25.

The only audible dissent came from Sen. Mee Moua, DFL-St. Paul, who complained about the fee.

"We have students being compelled to pay a student fee who may not ever attend a game," she said.

University president Robert Bruininks said student government leaders have endorsed the fee.

"I do not think it is unreasonable for students to pay some modest fee as a contribution to the stadium initiative," Bruininks said. "They did back in the 1920s when Memorial Stadium was built."

The state is poised to kick in 55 percent of the stadium cost. The money would come from the general treasury, which will elbow aside other state programs in the constant fight for state money.

The university's share is $110.7 million, which will come from a $35 million naming-rights arrangement with TCF Financial Corp., the student fee and other donations.

Bruininks said not all the money is in hand, but he expects legislative passage to bring "a great deal of energy to private fundraising."

The Twins' bill contains building blocks for the Vikings, which are after a $675 million retractable roof stadium in the northern suburb of Blaine.

Lester Bagley, a Vikings vice president, said owner Zygi Wilf is disappointed that he missed out on approval of the stadium.

"We'll take a breather and charge forward," Bagley said.


Brian Bakst can be reached at bbakst@ap.org

Twins, Gopher stadium bills move into scoring position (http://www.twincities.com/mld/twincities/news/state/minnesota/14623752.htm)

singersp
05-20-2006, 05:28 AM
Posted on Fri, May. 19, 2006

Stadium bill highlights

The Associated Press
Associated Press

LOCATION: Minneapolis Warehouse District, on a current parking lot behind the Target Center.

SIZE: 42,000 seats - 12,000 of which would be between 1st and 3rd bases.

COST: $522 million - $390 million for the ballpark, the rest for needed infrastructure.

WHO PAYS: A 0.15 percent Hennepin County sales tax would cover three-fourths of the cost; Twins owner Carl Pohlad would pay $130 million.

WHO GAINS: The Twins get all game-day revenue and proceeds from naming rights and in-stadium advertising deals. If Pohlad sells the team, the public would get 18 percent of the gross sale price once construction commences; the share declines to zero percent over 10 years.

TIMELINE: Major construction would begin next year; the ballpark would open in 2010. The lease would run 30 years.

OTHER HIGHLIGHTS: Assuming the Vikings get a new stadium and the Metrodome is sold, Hennepin County and Minneapolis each get $5 million from that sale. Also, some of the sales tax proceeds can be used for county library and youth sports programs, beginning at $2 million a year.


GOPHERS STADIUM

LOCATION: Minneapolis campus of the University of Minnesota, near Williams and Mariucci arenas.

SIZE: 50,000 seats - expandable to 80,000 in the future.

COST: $248 million, including infrastructure.

WHO PAYS: 55 percent would come from the state and the rest from university donors, a $25 a year student fee and a $35 million naming-rights deal with TCF Bank.

WHO GAINS: The university expects it will generate more money to help run all athletic programs at the school.

TIMELINE: Major construction would start this summer; the stadium would open for the 2009 season.

OTHER HIGHLIGHTS: The state would acquire rights to 2,840 acres of university-owned land in Dakota County. The undeveloped land was deeded to the university by the U.S. military in 1947.

Stadium bill highlights (http://www.duluthsuperior.com/mld/duluthsuperior/news/politics/14623758.htm)

Aberration
05-20-2006, 05:40 AM
Yes!!! finally a great place to see a baseball game... unless it rains. Also a stadium to make the U more fun to go to for school and for football... too bad its a couple years too late. It would have been nice to see the vikes get a stadium but hopefully next year they can find a way to get a retractable roof and maybe raise the metrodome and put it in its place. The vikes need a stadium as they are last in revenue despite selling out every game but this is such a football town its nice to see the others pass.

BadlandsVikings
05-20-2006, 05:40 AM
Approve and build them all at the same time. Get it over with.

Aberration
05-20-2006, 05:52 AM
oh its never done... Target center is one of the oldest in the league.. haha good thing they are smart enough to not ask for anything other than improvements

Ltrey33
05-20-2006, 05:59 AM
BASTARDS!!!!!

singersp
05-20-2006, 07:20 AM
LOCATION: Minneapolis Warehouse District, on a current parking lot behind the Target Center.


:scratch: Isn't that Rapid Park?

YogidAbEAR
05-20-2006, 08:17 AM
"singersp" wrote:

12,000 of which would be between 1st and 3rd bases.



is that alot?

Benet
05-20-2006, 09:19 AM
Good good.. The sooner these go through, the sooner the legislature can concentrate on moving the Vikings out of the Metrodome and into the Northern Lights.

Then the Timberwolves can move and the whole cycle can start again in 2020!

:grin:

YogidAbEAR
05-21-2006, 04:59 AM
isn't the target centre in good condition? guess thats the way things are now. seems like stadiums only last 20 years now before they need to get replaced.

BadlandsVikings
05-21-2006, 05:06 AM
"YogidAbEAR" wrote:

isn't the target centre in good condition? guess thats the way things are now. seems like stadiums only last 20 years now before they need to get replaced.Targe Center was built in 1990.

http://basketball.ballparks.com/

singersp
05-21-2006, 01:42 PM
Posted on Sun, May. 21, 2006

Twins land stadium after long wait

BRIAN BAKST
Associated Press

ST. PAUL - In the wee hours Sunday, Minnesota lawmakers pushed through a financing plan for an open-air Twins ballpark in Minneapolis.

For the Twins, it marks the end of an 11-year fight for public money toward an outdoor stadium. For lawmakers, it settles two of three nagging stadium problems, with the vote coming hours after the Legislature authorized an on-campus football stadium for the University of Minnesota. The football Vikings came up short this year.

While the Gophers plan rolled up big majorities, the Twins had less room to spare for the bill allowing a Hennepin County sales tax that will pay the lion's share of the $522 million ballpark.

"We've come away from this place with so many defeats," said Twins stadium point man Jerry Bell. "It's hard to believe."

The vote was 71-61 in the House and 34-32 in the Senate. Bell was sure to note that the Senate total matched the jersey number of famed Twin Kirby Puckett, who died in March.

In all, the Legislature approved $770 million worth of stadium construction, two-thirds of which would come out of the public's pockets.

Gov. Tim Pawlenty has indicated both bills will get his signature.

Barring any problems, the 42,000-seat Twins ballpark should be ready for the 2010 season.

Three-quarters of the construction costs will fall on the backs of people who make purchases in Hennepin County. A 0.15 percent sales tax - three cents on a $20 purchase - will take effect without a referendum typically required of local sales taxes.

Twins owner Carl Pohlad will pay $130 million, but the team will get all game-day revenue and in-stadium advertising proceeds. The team's annual revenue is estimated to grow by at least $40 million.

"It should be called the `We-get-every-benefit, you-get-every-liability bill,'" complained Sen. Michele Bachmann, R-Stillwater.

A judge ruled in February that the Twins aren't required to play in the Metrodome beyond this season. Lawmakers felt pressure to act, fearing major league baseball would eventually permit relocation or dismantle the low-revenue franchise.

"If you don't want to keep the Twins and are anti-Twins vote against it," said Sen. Dick Day, R-Owatonna.

Saturday night in the House, Republican Rep. Ron Erhardt described it as the "most incredible exercise in selfishness" by legislators from outside the state's most populous county for letting the tax slide without a ballot measure.

"A whole bunch of people can say I'm not passing a tax on my constituents," echoed Rep. Alice Hausman, DFL-St. Paul. "It's the only reason it's passing this year."

County leaders and the Twins wouldn't accept a referendum because of uncertainty over the outcome and added delays.

Some opponents said they'd look at challenging the stadium plan in court.

The Minnesota Vikings didn't secure a new stadium, but the Twins bill offers them hope for next year. It also gives prior authorization to an Anoka County sales tax that would help pay for a suburban football stadium if the team settles other funding details and receives another positive vote from lawmakers.

Brian Bakst can be reached at bbakst@ap.org

Twins land stadium after long wait (http://www.duluthsuperior.com/mld/duluthsuperior/14634626.htm)

singersp
05-21-2006, 01:48 PM
Posted on Sun, May. 21, 2006

Pre-dawn vote gives Twins their stadium

BY RACHEL E. STASSEN-BERGER
Pioneer Press

After hours of committee meetings, years of waiting and dozens of starts and stops, the Legislature Sunday passed a $522 million measure to build a new Minnesota Twins ballpark in Minneapolis.

The bill will soon be on Gov. Tim Pawlenty's desk, making it a signature — which he is expected to give — away from reality.

The Minnesota Senate, where the votes were in doubt until the pre-dawn hours, passed the measure at shortly before 5 a.m. by 34-32.

"Kirby Puckett's number," Jerry Bell, Twins owner Carl Pohlad's chief negotiator in team's decade-long fight for public funding for a ballpark, exclaimed in reference to the 34 votes that passed the bill. "How appropriate is that?"

He said planning for the ballpark would begin immediately.

"We finally are going to build a ballpark," he said. "We are going to play outside on grass the way it was meant to be."

The House passed it late Saturday night on a 71-61 vote.

The Twins bill allows Hennepin County to levy a new sales tax of 3 cents on a $20 purchase to pay for the Warehouse District ballpark and infrastructure. Although state law requires a local referendum vote on any new sales tax, the Twins tax is exempt from that requirement.

That was one of the reasons many opposed the measure.

"My constituents would like to be able to vote on this," said Sen. Linda Berglin, DFL-Minneapolis. And she warned her colleagues that their counties' residents might be the next on the block to have a new sales tax imposed without a chance to vote. "Once this passes, just wait — you'll be the next one."

She and 23 other Senate members voted to send the bill back to the joint House-Senate conference committee that crafted it. But a majority voted to keep the measure alive at 4:30 a.m. Sunday morning. Sen. Julie Rosen, R-Fairmont, urged her colleagues not to vote against the Twins.

"To send this back for another round is the wrong thing to do. It will kill it," said Rosen, one of the 42 who voted not to send the bill back.

The Senate Sunday morning voted upon a very different stadium measure than it had passed earlier this month. That bill included a seven-county referendum for a new sales tax of 10 cents on a $20 purchase to finance a Twins stadium, a Vikings stadium and billions of dollars for transit.

Senators Sunday approved a measure that does away with the referendum, limits the new sales tax to Hennepin County, and does not fund transit.

That caused some consternation Sunday.

"I think the action regarding the referendum and the transit piece were sly…and I'm extremely disappointed," said Sen. Satveer Chaudhary, DFL-Fridley.

The Twins package does make a nod to the Vikings bid for a stadium but doesn't grant them a full legislative go ahead. Instead, it says that the Legislature may act more fully on the football team's bid in the future and gives Anoka County, the chosen site for a new Vikings stadium, the same exemption from sales taxes Hennepin County received to build the Twins stadium.

The Vikings had worked hard for full stadium building rights this year and even brought National Football League Commissioner Paul Tagliabue to the Capitol to lobby lawmakers. Tagliabue dangled the possibility of another Minnesota Super Bowl but lawmakers decided this was not the Vikings year.

For all the difficulty stadium debates have entailed over the last decade the one-hour Senate debate was fairly restrained. Senators were physically tired, having arrived at work 18 hours before their vote.

"It's time to do this," said Sen. Dick Day, the Republican Minority Leader of the vote. "For ten years (the Twins) have been coming to us and they've put together a really good package."

Rachel E. Stassen-Berger can be reached at rstassen-berger@pioneerpress.com. Patrick Sweeney contributed to this report.

Pre-dawn vote gives Twins their stadium (http://www.twincities.com/mld/pioneerpress/news/local/14634763.htm)

singersp
05-21-2006, 01:49 PM
Posted on Sun, May. 21, 2006

LEGISLATIVE ROUNDUP: Gophers stadium reaches end zone; Twins on deck

House and Senate authorize spending for football stadium

By Brian Bakst
Associated Press

ST. PAUL - College football will return to the University of Minnesota campus in a state-of-the-art stadium approved Saturday by the Legislature.

The House and Senate authorized spending for the stadium on lopsided votes. Gov. Tim Pawlenty has pledged his support.

Action on the Gophers stadium preceded final votes on a ballpark plan for the Minnesota Twins, which was awaiting evening consideration. Both teams now play in the Metrodome.

The Gophers financing plan commits the state to 55 percent of the $248 million cost, an amount that caused some legislators to flinch. But sentiment was decidedly positive.

"Big Ten football should be played outside," said Sen. Geoff Michel, R-Edina. "Big Ten football should be played on campus."

In the House, Rep. Ron Abrams called it "one of the flagship issues this Legislature has dealt with in the 2006 session."

The Senate vote was 43-24. The House vote was 96-37.

University of Minnesota President Bob Bruininks watched the debate from the House gallery with his wife, Susan Hagstrum, Gophers athletics director Joel Maturi and other stadium supporters. They chuckled when the university's rouser was played back during the discussion.

After the vote, Bruininks said, "To me, it allows us to be competitive athletically but it also provides a rare opportunity to bring Minnesota together on the University of Minnesota campus."

Top legislators predicted victory for the Twins as well.

Critics of the Twins bill got in some final swipes during a small protest outside of Pawlenty's official state residence.

Some held signs warning supportive lawmakers that their votes would haunt them in November's elections. "Your Next Office - Unemployment," read one.

Minneapolis auto mechanic Dave Bicking said the 0.15 percent sales tax in Hennepin County should have at least been subject to a referendum. The tax - three cents on a $20 purchase - would pay for three-quarters of the $522 million ballpark in downtown Minneapolis.

"It's not the end," Bicking said. "It's the beginning of a new stage where we hold some of them accountable."

Before House and Senate lawmakers weighed in Saturday, a committee working on the tax bill provided some high drama on the stadium front. They nearly attached an amendment to that bill allowing for a petition-driven referendum on the Hennepin County tax. Sen. Mee Moua, DFL-St. Paul, switched her vote at the last minute, killing the measure.

Other critics said Twins owner Carl Pohlad was getting a sweetheart deal, paying $130 million toward the stadium but gaining all game-day revenue and in-stadium advertising proceeds.

At least one opponent said he would explore legal options for blocking the stadium.

Passions run high on the other side, too. St. Paul resident Dave Baker interrupted his jog to criticize the protesters, provoking a brief shouting match.

"If we would have built it 10 years ago, it would have been half the cost," he said.

If approved, the open-air, 42,000-seat Twins ballpark would be ready for the 2010 season.

That's none to soon for Twins players and coaches.

"The Metrodome has served its purpose but it's outdated and not really a baseball park," said Twins manager Ron Gardenhire. "This stadium is going to be real good for a lot of people. People like the outdoors in Minnesota."

The Gophers stadium would be ready for the 2009 season. It would end a 25-year hiatus of college football from the university campus. Memorial Stadium was torn down after the university moved its games to the Metrodome in 1982.

When interest on the debt is figured in, the state's share adds up to about $10.25 million a year - or $1.7 million a game for the next 25 years.

The university will cover the 45 percent of the stadium through a $35 million naming-rights deal with TCF Bank, other private donations and a student fee of $25 a year.

Sen. Jane Ranum, DFL-Minneapolis, said state priorities for the university were misplaced because lawmakers didn't approve a bioscience research initiative the school sought.

"You cannot say that one is your top priority but only get the funding for the stadium," she said. "Look at a person's checkbook and that's where you can see their values."

The Metrodome's third tenant, the Minnesota Vikings, fell short in a stadium bid. Team officials say they'll ask lawmakers to sign off on a suburban football stadium next year.

Gophers stadium reaches end zone (http://www.grandforks.com/mld/grandforks/news/14631205.htm)

Benet
05-21-2006, 02:07 PM
"YogidAbEAR" wrote:

isn't the target centre in good condition? guess thats the way things are now. seems like stadiums only last 20 years now before they need to get replaced.

The :grin: was supposed to signify I was joking, but you make a good point.. It seems now that we're in a never-ending cycle with regards to teams wanting new stadiums. Especially in Minnesota where you have an NHL franchise, an NBA franchise, an NFL franchise, and a Big 10 college all demanding new stadiums..

But hopefully once the Vikings stadium is built (by 2010 or 2011 hopefully) Minnesota will be set for its' franchises and their facilities for the following 20 years or so. Think about it; the Twins will have a state-of-the-art baseball stadium, the Timberwolves already have the Target Centre*, the Wild have the Excel Centre*, the Gophers will have their on-campus stadium, and the Vikes will have the Northern Lights!

* = I've been to the Target Centre, the Metrodome and the Excel Centre. I have to say I was most impressed by the Excel Centre, that is one top-class facility!

singersp
05-21-2006, 02:14 PM
"Benet" wrote:

"YogidAbEAR" wrote:

isn't the target centre in good condition? guess thats the way things are now. seems like stadiums only last 20 years now before they need to get replaced.

The :grin: was supposed to signify I was joking, but you make a good point.. It seems now that we're in a never-ending cycle with regards to teams wanting new stadiums. Especially in Minnesota where you have an NHL franchise, an NBA franchise, an NFL franchise, and a Big 10 college all demanding new stadiums..

But hopefully once the Vikings stadium is built (by 2010 or 2011 hopefully) Minnesota will be set for its' franchises and their facilities for the following 20 years or so. Think about it; the Twins will have a state-of-the-art baseball stadium, the Timberwolves already have the Target Centre*, the Wild have the Excel Centre*, the Gophers will have their on-campus stadium, and the Vikes will have the Northern Lights!

* = I've been to the Target Centre, the Metrodome and the Excel Centre. I have to say I was most impressed by the Excel Centre, that is one top-class facility!

How many times have you been to Minnesota Benet?

Benet
05-21-2006, 02:38 PM
"singersp" wrote:

How many times have you been to Minnesota Benet?

Twice.. I studied at Minnesota State at Moorhead for 5 months in 2003, then came back for 2 weeks in the summer of 2004 to visit my-then long-distance girlfriend.

But I was fortunate in that I managed to manipulate the English student-loans system, and that coupled with the favourable exchange rates between the dollar and the British pound meant I was able to see a Vikes game (Seahawks at Vikings 17/12), a Timberwolves game (Nuggets at Timberwolves 18/11) and a Wild game (Flames at Wild 12/9), all in 2003.

And then I saw the 49ers lose to the Falcons on the opening day of the 2004 NFL season at 3Com Park when my girlfriend and I went to San Fran for a long weekend while I was with her.

:grin:

singersp
05-21-2006, 05:11 PM
Thanx Benet. Hope you can make it to anothe Vikings game soon.

Benet
05-21-2006, 05:16 PM
"singersp" wrote:

Thanx Benet. Hope you can make it to anothe Vikings game soon.

That's the plan.. Need to get my driving licence, get a decent job and get my own place first! :razz:

singersp
05-21-2006, 06:10 PM
"Benet" wrote:

"singersp" wrote:

Thanx Benet. Hope you can make it to anothe Vikings game soon.

That's the plan.. Need to get my driving licence, get a decent job and get my own place first! :razz:

I guess those should be 1st priorities.

thetrenches68OL
05-21-2006, 06:14 PM
wtf why cant the vikes get one

Benet
05-21-2006, 06:39 PM
"singersp" wrote:

I guess those should be 1st priorities.

And hopefully by the time I've got all that together I'll be able to see a Vikes game at Northern Lights instead of at the Metrodome!

Muggsy
05-21-2006, 07:47 PM
A thought just occured to me. (Yeah, I get one from time ta time, but dey are usually bad ones.)

What if, just what if, Zygi wants ta move da Vikes to L.A.? He's made a prop to da local gov., an now dat dey have turned him down, he can say, "Well, I tried. Now I'm movin' da team." L.A. would do anyting ta get a team, an' da commish would do anyting ta help 'em, y'know? Zygi could get ANY deal dat he wants, y'know?

I dunno.... mebbe I'm fulla prunes on dis one. I tink I been in stir too long. I hopes I'm wrong, but da president has been set before, y'know? Da Minnesota Lakers moved to L.A. Could da Vikes be da next team ta follow?

Los Angeles Vikings don't sound dat bad ta me... I guess.... :???:

Benet
05-21-2006, 08:00 PM
"Muggsy" wrote:

A thought just occured to me. (Yeah, I get one from time ta time, but dey are usually bad ones.)

What if, just what if, Zygi wants ta move da Vikes to L.A.? He's made a prop to da local gov., an now dat dey have turned him down, he can say, "Well, I tried. Now I'm movin' da team." L.A. would do anyting ta get a team, an' da commish would do anyting ta help 'em, y'know? Zygi could get ANY deal dat he wants, y'know?

I dunno.... mebbe I'm fulla prunes on dis one. I tink I been in stir too long. I hopes I'm wrong, but da president has been set before, y'know? Da Minnesota Lakers moved to L.A. Could da Vikes be da next team ta follow?

Los Angeles Vikings don't sound dat bad ta me... I guess.... :???:

Won't happen. The Vikings didn't even get their proposal to a vote.. For Zygi to turn around and say "Buh Bye" before even getting a Vikings Stadium Bill on the floor of the House would be stupid and illogical.

Y'all need to calm down and think rationally about this. There is nothing Zygi can do now beyond get the proposals in order, something which WAS NOT done before. The amount of last-minute changes made to the previous Bill proves that the Vikings WERE NOT READY to have the Bill go to the legislative floor to be voted on. In the next legislative session (which is the Autumn isn't it?) they will be.

Muggsy
05-21-2006, 08:04 PM
"Benet" wrote:

"Muggsy" wrote:

A thought just occured to me. (Yeah, I get one from time ta time, but dey are usually bad ones.)

What if, just what if, Zygi wants ta move da Vikes to L.A.? He's made a prop to da local gov., an now dat dey have turned him down, he can say, "Well, I tried. Now I'm movin' da team." L.A. would do anyting ta get a team, an' da commish would do anyting ta help 'em, y'know? Zygi could get ANY deal dat he wants, y'know?

I dunno.... mebbe I'm fulla prunes on dis one. I tink I been in stir too long. I hopes I'm wrong, but da president has been set before, y'know? Da Minnesota Lakers moved to L.A. Could da Vikes be da next team ta follow?

Los Angeles Vikings don't sound dat bad ta me... I guess.... :???:

Won't happen. The Vikings didn't even get their proposal to a vote.. For Zygi to turn around and say "Buh Bye" before even getting a Vikings Stadium Bill on the floor of the House would be stupid and illogical.

Y'all need to calm down and think rationally about this. There is nothing Zygi can do now beyond get the proposals in order, something which WAS NOT done before. The amount of last-minute changes made to the previous Bill proves that the Vikings WERE NOT READY to have the Bill go to the legislative floor to be voted on. In the next legislative session (which is the Autumn isn't it?) they will be.

Y'all?? Youse must be in SOUTHERN England, y'know? :smile:

Yeah, I'm all turned inside out by dis, y'know? And I am looking too much at da sour side of tings. I just dunno why we gots ta wait a whole year ta find out if we gets a stadium, y'know? Someone fill me in on dis, ok?

RK.
05-21-2006, 08:10 PM
It will take between 3 and 4 years to build a new stadium. The legislature will have to pass it by this time next year or their time will run out. In order for Wilf to meet the 2011 deadline for leaving the Dome he IMO will have to start exploring other venues like LA within 6 months. MN better get its act together because believe me other cities are willing to offer a hell of a lot more to get a football franchise.

BadlandsVikings
05-21-2006, 08:26 PM
Vikes better hurry up because L.A. has approved the renoation of the colleseum.



L.A. to spend $25M near Coliseum to lure NFL team
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2451465

FuadFan
05-21-2006, 09:50 PM
"westvirginiavikings" wrote:

Vikes better hurry up because L.A. has approved the renoation of the colleseum.



L.A. to spend $25M near Coliseum to lure NFL team
http//sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2451465I think they will try and get the Chargers first since San Diego won't build them a place but I am worried. If a 500 million dollar stadium barely passed 34-32 in the senate what does that mean for a far more costly Vikings project?

bmc342
05-22-2006, 01:01 AM
all in all i'm happy. of course it's a bummer that they didn't get all three stadiums passed, but at least the Twins and Gophers are out of the way. all along most people have said the Vikings were 3rd in line anyway, now they are 1st. i really don't think the legislature shot them down. i just think the senate screwed up the Twins' bill so much that they didn't have time to pass the Vikings' while they were sorting out the Twins. at least it didn't go to a full vote and get shot down that way. plus, the legislature left the door wide open for next year. so, hopefully they can approve the Vikings' new stadium without too much trouble. the only thing i'm worried about is the Vikings losing all their momentum. some congressmen may think that we got two done last year, that's enough. hopefully not though, we'll see.

WBLVikeBabe
05-22-2006, 02:01 AM
"singersp" wrote:


LOCATION: Minneapolis Warehouse District, on a current parking lot behind the Target Center.


:scratch: Isn't that Rapid Park?

Nooo :sad:

VikesfaninWis
05-22-2006, 03:01 AM
Hopefully soon these people get their heads out of their a$$e$, and the Vikings get their new stadium..

thanatoschristou
05-22-2006, 03:29 AM
Legislature will never remove their heads from their bums, too comfortable for them. Hopefully it is not a half arsed stadium for the Twins and the Gophers get a real coach. They should have gotten the Dome, sallies.

Benet
05-22-2006, 09:28 AM
"bmc342" wrote:

all in all i'm happy. of course it's a bummer that they didn't get all three stadiums passed, but at least the Twins and Gophers are out of the way. all along most people have said the Vikings were 3rd in line anyway, now they are 1st. i really don't think the legislature shot them down. i just think the senate screwed up the Twins' bill so much that they didn't have time to pass the Vikings' while they were sorting out the Twins. at least it didn't go to a full vote and get shot down that way. plus, the legislature left the door wide open for next year. so, hopefully they can approve the Vikings' new stadium without too much trouble. the only thing i'm worried about is the Vikings losing all their momentum. some congressmen may think that we got two done last year, that's enough. hopefully not though, we'll see.

Great post mate, exactly what I've been saying!