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NordicNed
04-02-2006, 01:37 PM
A league source tells us that the recent ownership meetings in Florida featured a storm of resentment directed at the delegation representing the Minnesota Vikings.

The reason for the discontent was the poison pilled offer sheet that the Vikings presented to former Seahawks guard Steve Hutchinson three weeks ago. The NFL ultimately attempted to challenge the offer on behalf of the Seahawks.

"Everyone was talking about the group of people with more balls and ego than brains," said one source, in reference to the four men who run the organization: owner Zygi Wilf, V.P. of player personnel Fran Foley, V.P. of football operations Rob Brzezinski, and head coach Brad Childress.

"This group is on everyone's sh-t list," added the source. "League office, other teams, owners, personnel people."

The league office also isn't pleased, we're told, with the involvement of former management council employee Dave Blando in the crafting of the offer sheet that prevented the Seahawks from matching. Blando now works as a cap guy for the Vikings, and the thinking is that Blando had a key role in coming up with the term that would have made all of Hutchinson's seven-year, $49 million contract fully guaranteed if the Seahawks had matched.

Wilf bought the Vikings less than a year ago. Childress was hired days after the conclusion of the 2005 season to replace Mike Tice, who was fired minutes after a season-ending win over the Bears. Foley joined the organization not long thereafter from San Diego, where he had served as the director of pro personnel. Brzezinski has been with the team for seven years.

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CalifornianVikingz
04-02-2006, 01:41 PM
I dont care, Do Raider fans care ? We will be loved or hated, thats how it is. I know if we played the seahawks right now. Even with Johnson even mcmahon, we would still win. With our West Coast offense. We have so many choices. I just cant wait, how well taylor will do. And what help too getting 5 picks within 3 rounds(100 players)

renovikesfan
04-02-2006, 02:23 PM
Makes me wonder if this "league source" wasn't, in some way, connected to the Seahawks. Seriously...all this hooplah over an offer sheet that was obviously legal, or else it wouldn't have gone through. The Vikings and Brzezinski (sp?) utilized a little loophole that allowed them to create an offer that Seattle had no way of matching. So what? Isn't that what a team is SUPPOSED to do? What sense is there in making an offer that the other team is likely to match? If I'm not mistaken, there's no haggling with that kind of a deal.....you make ONE offer, and the other team either matches it or not. If they do, you lose out on that player, and if they don't match, then they're the losers.

Seems to me, that the team making the offer just has to want the player in question a little bit more than the team the player is currently on. Was it a shady move by the Vikings? I guess it all depends on which side of the fence you're on. In all honesty, if roles were reversed, we'd probably be screaming FOUL! at the Seahawks, just like they did with us.....but they'd still be legal. The better team exec won in this case, IMO.

Ltrey33
04-02-2006, 02:25 PM
Meh, they can hate us if they want!

Prophet
04-02-2006, 02:40 PM
Let 'em hate. Doesn't bother me.

Benet
04-02-2006, 02:50 PM
I love how every other franchise was up in arms about the "poison pill" and was upset because it wasn't in the "spirit" of the CBA.

So how would Wellington Mara feel if he saw the recent revenue sharing negotiations? Would he be upset because Jerry Jones, Dan Snyder, Bob Kraft and the rest of the newer brand of owners refused to expand revenue sharing to local revenues because they didn't want to continue the spirit of collective Socialism that Mara started when he agreed to give up his exclusive rights to the money he derived from the New York market?

I say f--- 'em. F--- 'em all and let them take their hypocritical standpoint back to Jacksonville, Boston, Washington, Seattle, Dallas, Philly, Arizona and everywhere else.

Here's to hoping that we give them another reason to hate us when that "group of people with more balls and ego than brains" wins Superbowl XLI.

vikeswin2005
04-02-2006, 03:57 PM
screw them all!!!!!!!!!!

Freya
04-02-2006, 04:13 PM
"Everyone was talking about the group of people with more balls and ego than brains," said one source, in reference to the four men who run the organization: owner Zygi Wilf, V.P. of player personnel Fran Foley, V.P. of football operations Rob Brzezinski, and head coach Brad Childress.

Sounds like a bit of a tantrum brought on by THEIR bruised egos.
Too bad so sad.

norseforce
04-02-2006, 04:57 PM
that's right keep cryin, if Zygi didn't have brains he would'nt be where he's at today,sitting in an NFL OWNERS meeting, and yes it takes SOME BIG BALLS to win in this league,they all see PURPLE RAIN in the forecast, so cry all year

nephilimstorm
04-02-2006, 04:59 PM
I guess Wilf did say money wouldnt be an issue for bringing hima championship and also doing whatever it takes...I guess that doesnt bode well in the NFL offices

norseforce
04-02-2006, 05:03 PM
that's fine we'll TAKE THE FORCE TO THE DARK SIDE,

norseforce
04-02-2006, 05:06 PM
PURPLE PRIDE FROM THE DARK SIDE!

ejmat
04-02-2006, 05:25 PM
They are just upset over the fact someone found a loophole and now they can't take the time and go relax on the beach somewhere. They actually have to work to change the CBA again.

The Vikings did what they had to do in order to get an elite guard that they desparately needed. The NFL can be pissed all they want. The bottom line is the Vikings got their man and did it legally. Was anyone pissed at Seattle for their poison pills? Atleast the Vikings poison pill gave Seattle a chance to match if they wanted to.

SWAYZE74
04-02-2006, 05:57 PM
well if theyre that pissed, then change the policy that allows these deals to happen...i love the deal that brought us hutch...it just shows our FO likes to (pardon the cliche) think outside the box...muhahahah...

peace...

PackSux!
04-02-2006, 06:01 PM
They are all just jealous because we outsmarted them.

NordicNed
04-02-2006, 06:04 PM
The real bottom line is, Seattle could have matched our offer if they wanted to, PERIOD. Our offer didn't make it impossible for Seattle to match it.

We just wanted ( and got ) Hutch more than they did.........

Trust me, if it was someone like Green Bay who came up with that offer, the headlines would be reading something like, with new O-line is Farve on his way back to a Super Bowl. Most genious FA move in years....


I say screw everyone else also.......

Muggsy
04-02-2006, 07:24 PM
"Everyone was talking about the group of people with more balls and ego than brains," said one source

Was it balls and ego dat tought up da 'poison pill' concept? Hah! It was a savvy and sharp organism dat came up wit' dat idea, y'know? Sounds ta me like all da udda organisms are just jealous, cause dey didn't tink of it foist, y'know? Since dey went wit' dat 'brains' insult, dat shows me I'm right, y'know?

We got ourselves a real mob, one dat is just a few steps ahead of everyone else, y'know? An' take it from me, it's dose kinda mobs dat eventually take over da whole ball o' wax, y'know?

Heh, heh, ha, Wilfy, youse should be a real kingpin soon!

ejmat
04-02-2006, 07:40 PM
Yo Muggsy, you always speak good sense however, what's up with the language dude? It takes me like 10 minutes to read your messages.

brandsp
04-02-2006, 07:44 PM
Y'all are missing the best part!!!!

When is the last time the Vikes org outsmarted anyone? This is such a nice change.

Now if Tice was still here he would have tried to get Hutch to sign by telling him about the Vikes profit sharing from selling SB tix. hahaha

NordicNed
04-02-2006, 07:46 PM
"ejmat" wrote:

Yo Muggsy, you always speak good sense however, what's up with the language dude? It takes me like 10 minutes to read your messages.

Thats just Muggsy for ya, I think it's from all that solitary confinment they put him in....

After awhile, you'll breeze thru his reads, trust me.......

VikesfaninWis
04-02-2006, 07:50 PM
We will se how this reacts once the season starts again. I don't want to sound hipocritical, but we haven't exactly had the best of luck when it comes to the refs officiating a game that we play in.. We have gotten screwed probably more than any other team in the league.

I hope this don't start a trend against the Vikings team. I would really hate to see us get robbed by the refs just because the league and the other teams are pissed at us. The only reason why the rest of the teams are pissed is because now if they want to hold on to a great player, they will certainly have to use the Franchise Tag instead of the Transition Tag, thus having to spend more money.. Oh well, screw them all..

whackthepack
04-02-2006, 08:22 PM
"ejmat" wrote:

Yo Muggsy, you always speak good sense however, what's up with the language dude? It takes me like 10 minutes to read your messages.


It is cell block D speak!

donjen95
04-02-2006, 08:42 PM
I'm a Yankee fan. Everyone hates us. Get used to it.

norseforce
04-02-2006, 08:42 PM
no he's just PIZONE, straight up ny mob, true italian

thanatoschristou
04-02-2006, 08:46 PM
[quote="Benet"]I love how every other franchise was up in arms about the "poison pill" and was upset because it wasn't in the "spirit" of the CBA.

So how would Wellington Mara feel if he saw the recent revenue sharing negotiations? Would he be upset because Jerry Jones, Dan Snyder, Bob Kraft and the rest of the newer brand of owners refused to expand revenue sharing to local revenues because they didn't want to continue the spirit of collective Socialism that Mara started when he agreed to give up his exclusive rights to the money he derived from the New York market?

Well said Benet. They will have no choice but to hate us when we whoop but all the way to the playoffs.

RK.
04-02-2006, 09:06 PM
Well on the other side of it the players union was defending the contract. So I guess that means that all the players like us. I can live with players liking us and owners hating us. :razz:

mr.woo
04-02-2006, 10:05 PM
We will se how this reacts once the season starts again. I don't want to sound hipocritical, but we haven't exactly had the best of luck when it comes to the refs officiating a game that we play in.. We have gotten screwed probably more than any other team in the league.

I hope this don't start a trend against the Vikings team. I would really hate to see us get robbed by the refs just because the league and the other teams are pissed at us. The only reason why the rest of the teams are pissed is because now if they want to hold on to a great player, they will certainly have to use the Franchise Tag instead of the Transition Tag, thus having to spend more money.. Oh well, screw them all..

why would the refs hate us? we didnt do anything to them. its the owners im worried about. they might really push for a franchise move to oh i dont know say los angeles?

ejmat
04-02-2006, 10:25 PM
Who cares if the refs hated us? It's not like we get a whole lot of calls our way anyway.

BBQ Platypus
04-02-2006, 10:33 PM
"PackSux!" wrote:

They are all just jealous because we outsmarted them.

Indeed. From our standpoint, it's all good. We did what a front office should do: we made an unmatchable offer. If someone has a problem with it, they need to grow up already, unless you're on the Seahawks, in which case you have a right to feel pretty embarassed after getting pWn3d!!!

BBQ Platypus
04-02-2006, 10:33 PM
"PackSux!" wrote:

They are all just jealous because we outsmarted them.

Indeed. From our standpoint, it's all good. We did what a front office should do: we made an unmatchable offer. If someone has a problem with it, they need to grow up already, unless you're on the Seahawks, in which case you have a right to feel pretty embarassed after getting pWn3d!!!

snowinapril
04-02-2006, 10:41 PM
"Freya" wrote:


"Everyone was talking about the group of people with more balls and ego than brains," said one source, in reference to the four men who run the organization: owner Zygi Wilf, V.P. of player personnel Fran Foley, V.P. of football operations Rob Brzezinski, and head coach Brad Childress.

Sounds like a bit of a tantrum brought on by THEIR bruised egos.
Too bad so sad.


IMHO, I think the other owners, I will call them "the good ole boys," have kind of a don't screw me and I won't screw you attitude. Well, the good ole boys are going to be pissed about it. They will get over it. They will also protect themselves, by putting the ky-bash to the PILL in the next meeting of minds.

But this all goes back to what I have been saying, and that is this.........It is totally unfair for these teams to put these tags on players. It doesn't matter if it is the F or T tag, they are both devices to controll players so they can be greedy and try to hoard talent that would somehow be lured away if it wasn't placed on that player. They want to have their cake and eat it too. Problem is that if Hutch would have stayed in Seattle, got hurt like Mike Utley (Det lineman, paralized), he would not have been paid like he would have if the Hawks would have offered him a contract with signing bonus. He was denied last year and again this year. Yes, he gets the aveage of the top players, but if you are THE TOP player, why should you be cheated by a tag, heck even if you are in the top ten or twenty top players, someone might want you more and be willing to offer that....

I am coming around full circle here, just be patient. Well, back to the owners being upset. I can see why they might be upset. If the Vikings wanted Hutch bad enough, why didn't we just offer him guaranteed money. Instead, we made it so we didn't have to guarantee him the money, but Seattle did. It was kind of low on our part. I guess we say, well the player signed it knowing full well, soohe must have wanted out real bad. It is still real low.

On a positive note, one that the players should like, I don't think the Vikings will be Tagging anyone anytime soon. I believe that the Vikings came around to my thinking that the Tag is unfair, and that is why they took the tag off of B-Will. The owners are not a group to mess with, they vote on how they spend money and stuff which could hurt us down the road. But atleast the players will like us, as long as we pay well and treat them well.

DaunteHOF
04-02-2006, 10:41 PM
April Fools day?

UndisputedVike
04-02-2006, 11:21 PM
Hmm 1st year as an owner and already has controversy, Good job Wilfy my man. Were used to it ^_^.

Benet
04-02-2006, 11:29 PM
"DaunteHOF" wrote:

April Fools day?

Nope.. Legitimate story.

snowinapril
04-02-2006, 11:52 PM
"donjen95" wrote:

I'm a Yankee fan. Everyone hates us. Get used to it.

Everyone hates the Yankees for a different reason than the owners dislike us.

Apparently the Vikes broke some unwritten code amongst the owners?????

snowinapril
04-02-2006, 11:55 PM
"brandsp" wrote:

Y'all are missing the best part!!!!

When is the last time the Vikes org outsmarted anyone? This is such a nice change.

Now if Tice was still here he would have tried to get Hutch to sign by telling him about the Vikes profit sharing from selling SB tix. hahaha

LMAO!

Good one!

We have been playing second fiddle for a long time, and have been bullied around a bit. We didn't sucker punch anyone, but we did catch Seattle with their guard down.

Prophet
04-03-2006, 12:23 AM
The Vikings need to put a 'poison pill' on the sleeve of their jersey in honor of the transaction.

LAVike
04-03-2006, 12:30 AM
I can't wait for the game against the Seagulls . . . I'm going to Seattle just to watch it. Mmm . . . seagulls DO taste like chicken!!

farvathevikinglover
04-03-2006, 02:08 AM
Who cares what they think about it? Theres nothing they can do about it now, and now we have an awesome guard that should really help us. Someone else would have thought it up eventually and not thought twice about using it. Its just cuz we did it first and the seahawks are mad because they didnt want to spend that much money to resign him. (Also, ive heard from a lot of people that it was Hutchinson and his agent that requested it, so why be mad at us?)

Cagey_Fan
04-03-2006, 03:56 AM
Can we say, Damn wish we would've thought of that. :!:

collegeguyjeff
04-03-2006, 10:21 AM
i don't care what those loosers think, they have always hated the vikings as long as i can remember so who cares. they don't say anything about seattle making the same contract for burleson that we made for hutch but it's not ok for us to do it?

WakkaWakka
04-03-2006, 07:14 PM
The vikings definitely caught the Seattle FO with their pants down. To me, that's hilarious because they were asking for it.

The Seahawks decided to pay Alexander instead of Hutch. Bad idea IMO, and you all now reap the benefits of such a bad mistake.
Good one Vikings, well played indeed. My only gripe? That the Vikings took Dequincy Scott from the Chargers.

Gift
04-03-2006, 08:02 PM
I say Fuck'em

twiztedfait
04-03-2006, 08:05 PM
Ohes Noes, the owners are mad at us. I personally don't like the tags and it was nice to see them get 'broken'. They are unfair to the player. It forces them to play even though their contract is up(yes they get a new 1 year contract but they get no choice in the matter). I know I would not like it if i was no longer under contract at my current job and all of a sudden my boss tells me "you can't leave you work for us next year".

I don't think this will end with the tags being removed however. The loophole will be closed and good players will be even more restricted. Sure if you are tagged you are one of the best at your posistion, but I would gladly trade the 'extra' money from being tagged for being able to work where I want and be happy.