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singersp
03-17-2006, 02:25 PM
Posted on Fri, Mar. 17, 2006

Childress hides as Vikings mum

This is getting serious. Vikings fans have cause for alarm. It's been approximately 72 hours since one of the great players in Vikings history was traded to the Miami Dolphins. There still hasn't been a Brad Childress sighting. Nor have we heard the slightest peep emanating from his bunker at Winter Park.

Perhaps he is in a coma somewhere, hooked up to life support while waiting for, say, a kidney transplant. If we could just confirm that, we might be able to organize a plasma drive on his behalf.

Short of major organ failure, however, there is no other satisfactory explanation for his Howard Hughes-like behavior. The worst-case scenario is that he deems himself above speaking with the Twin Cities media and thereby disseminating information to the large Vikings fan base throughout the upper Midwest.

I bring that up only because a couple of hours after the Culpepper trade on Tuesday -- before the deal was even official -- Childress spoke on national satellite radio. He discussed everything from the draft to his relationship with his former franchise quarterback.

By the way, he wouldn't give the local press the time of day on Tuesday. Or Wednesday. Or...

You might think someone from the Triangle of Authority would step in and inform the coach that although the team is privately owned, its success depends on public support. Most people, especially ticket holders, don't like being kept in total darkness.

But this whole Triangle of Authority keeps shifting shape. The only person who appears willing to speak about anything, even in general terms, is owner Zygi Wilf. And he refers most football-related questions to the coach, who isn't talking.

Ever read "Catch-22?"

Zygi isn't technically in the triangle, so we had to expand it from the Triangle of Authority to the Rectangle of Rubes. Now I'm hearing that certain Vikings staff members are directing inquiries to Lester Bagley, who is routinely tight-lipped.

This brings us up to a Pentagon of Pinheads. Such is life in the increasingly haughty NFL, which tries to control and manipulate the news. Look around the league, and you'll find a large number of one-dimensional head coaches who view the world in terms of X's and O's. They see communicating with the fan base, via the media or in other ways, as a bother and beneath them.

Nick Saban, another beauty in Miami, slipped Culpepper out the back door so he didn't have to speak to the assembled media after the trade. His reasoning, as I understood it, was that it wouldn't be fair to all the other Dolphins who weren't having a news conference on that day.

There's a shining example of an NFL coach's mind for you. But at least Saban sat and answered questions about the trade. Childress apparently was in his bunker, making sure he had enough canned goods to withstand an enemy siege.

After experiencing life with Red McCombs, it didn't seem possible that the new regime could wind up looking secretive and shady. Somehow, against all odds, they are managing to do just that.

At first, it seemed that most Vikings fans didn't care at all about the information blackout. Some thought the media, widely considered to be pro-Mike Tice, was being overly critical. That attitude appears to be shifting. People are wondering what is going on. What's the plan? What are the priorities? Has Brad Johnson definitely been anointed as the top quarterback or might a free agent be given a chance to win the job?
Do they need to draft someone who can play right away? Where does the defense need to upgrade? Where does Onterrio Smith fit in? How many cans of evaporated milk do you keep in the bunker?

The good news is that if Childress wins, people won't care if he communicates or if he collects two-headed chickens. Winning is really all that matters.

And in a further effort to maintain a positive attitude, I'm choosing to believe he has a very good reason for becoming the Howard Hughes of head coaches.

I'm sticking with the failing kidney theory.

TOM POWERS is a columnist for the St. Paul Pioneer Press.

Childress hides as Vikings mum (http://www.duluthsuperior.com/mld/duluthsuperior/sports/14121248.htm)

singersp
03-17-2006, 02:27 PM
LMAO! Someone in the media is getting pissed because Childress isn't spoon-feeding him day-to-day business information that is private.

Jarlvik2006
03-17-2006, 02:50 PM
"singersp" wrote:

LMAO! Someone in the media is getting pissed because Childress isn't spoon-feeding him day-to-day business information that is private.

He wouldn't even aknowledge his name in the article.No kidding! I guess this "journalist" would prefer that we tell him everything so he can print it and tip our hand to all future plans.

Sometimes "Silence is Golden".

mnjamie
03-17-2006, 03:07 PM
It's Tom Powers from the Pioneer Press ... bottom of article.

But, LMFAO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I love EVERY DAMN MINUTE OF IT !!!! Damn local media been bashing the local sports teams long enough, finally someone is pointing out to them that they are no longer relevant. In today's day and age, you want to act like a turd and continually show turdish behavior, there are PLENTY of other outlets to leak information or to speak if needed. "ICE" their a$$'s out and give them nothing. Then they result to personal attacks like in this article ..... LOVE IT !!!!!

Prophet
03-17-2006, 03:13 PM
Poor Tommy Powers. Thankfully they aren't telling everything in the plans like a former coach loved to do. Maybe Duluth's weather is freezing his brain.

singersp
03-17-2006, 03:23 PM
"mnjamie" wrote:

It's Tom Powers from the Pioneer Press

Thanx Jamie. I missed it when I pasted the article. It's fixed now.

mr.woo
03-17-2006, 03:25 PM
Tom powers is a fraking awsome name. i wish i had that name.

SWAYZE74
03-17-2006, 03:36 PM
i dont read the star tribune, but are they that big of tools up there? the iowa media is only concernd with the weather and corn...and pink locker rooms...

peace...

digital420
03-17-2006, 03:48 PM
I luv it..

this reporter is outside the triangle
this reporter attacks the triangle
this reporter shows his ignorance
this reporter needs to be used as a target dummy for Phat Pat!!!

great article.. i wonder how many people are gonna spam the Trib for this one!!

DiGiTaL

Calmwind
03-17-2006, 04:02 PM
Total trash article. What a whinny baby. This reads like he was up at 3am tring to figure out what to write about, and just decided to flame the Vikes because he has nothing to write on.

enlvikeman
03-17-2006, 04:10 PM
What is the difference between a news reporter and a bucket of dog poopie...?



The bucket

whackthepack
03-17-2006, 04:11 PM
He is not the only one, Reusse the old curmudgeon did an article over a month ago about the Vikings not talking, and some talk shows are taking shots on the Vikings because they are being left out. They were so used to Tice telling them every move he was going to make, and Tice calling out players in the media every other week.

I think the Vikings should have held a new conference for the local media and announced that Daunte was traded, but the do not have to be like Tice either!

snowinapril
03-17-2006, 04:17 PM
The writer may be pissed, I would be too.

If Childress can do a XM radio gig, but can't do a local PC, that is bogus.

It sounds to me like another PISSING MATCH that our coach has gotten himself into.

Like the writer said, he better win. If he doesn't, all of the writers will have nothing good to say at all. Public opinion is easily swayed by the Press, and he is not looking too good so far to them. The fans and the ticket holders will be calling for his head.

Hopefully it will change after the draft.

Prophet
03-17-2006, 04:22 PM
"snowinapril" wrote:

The writer may be pissed, I would be too.

If Childress can do a XM radio gig, but can't do a local PC, that is bogus.

It sounds to me like another PISSING MATCH that our coach has gotten himself into.

Like the writer said, he better win. If he doesn't, all of the writers will have nothing good to say at all. Public opinion is easily swayed by the Press, and he is not looking too good so far to them. The fans and the ticket holders will be calling for his head.

Hopefully it will change after the draft.

Tommy's whole premise is null and void because of this article (http://purplepride.org/index.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=20202). He let his emotions dictate his questionable journalistic skills and came out of the deal looking like a fool.

cajunvike
03-17-2006, 04:30 PM
So does that make the media a Gaggle of Goobers?

Turboe
03-17-2006, 04:50 PM
I just figured out why Childress has not been readily available for the media for the last week. And it isnt as much of a conspiracy plot as the media would like to believe.

It is simple. It dawned on me just a few seconds ago as I was sitting here watching the TiVo of yesterdays golf coverage of the Bay Hill Invitational. I was watching when I noticed Childress was playing in the event. I thought I recognized him when the Viking introduced him at their press conference several months ago (and it wasnt from seeing him on the Eagles staff). Although he is definitely trying to make Eagles.

Coach Childress is actually a stage name for Bart Bryant. Look on the bright side Bart (I mean Coach Childress) is leading the event as of yesterday.

Go Coach!!!!

http://www.cincinnatigolfcourseguide.com/images/bart-bryant.jpg

http://images.pgatour.com/tournaments/britishopen/photos/img8537022.jpg

Caine
03-17-2006, 05:05 PM
Copy of the email I sent to the Editor of the Pioneer Press about the article:

I recently read Tom Power's article about the Vikings recent silence towards the media...and all I can think to say is, "Someone sounds bitter".

It never ceases to amaze me how a reporter (and I use the term loosely) seems to think that their job (reporting news) somehow means that they should be granted full access to, well, everything. And, God forbid, should anyone or anything somehow restrict or curtail that access, those same "reporters" start launching tirades at the unwillingness of the entity involved to share information. Which leads me to my first question; "At which point did Mr. Powers buy controlling interest in the Vikings?"

I ask this because, as a privately held entity, the Vikings are under absolutely no legal or moral obligation to share any information whatsoever with Mr. Powers...or anyone else. They do not have to discuss potential free agent signings, possible draft selections, trade possibilities, roster cuts, or any of the other Viking related issues which Mr. Powers believes (it would seem) to be his right/duty/obligation to "report". By the same token, Mr. Powers is not obligated to reveal his spending habits, bank account numbers, or credit worthiness with us - the reading public. The difference is, we're not asking him to.

I couldn't help but notice the various titles Mr. Powers attributed to the people in charge of the Vikings. We went from the "Triangle of Authority" (Coined by Mr. Wilf I believe), to the "Rectangle of Rubes", to the "Pentagon of Pinheads". I'm sure that after unveiling those oh-so-clever (yet oh-so-juvenile) titles, the Viking staff is in a panic trying to find Mr. Powers private line so that they can answer his every question and solicit his opinion on any and all Viking related decisions they will make now or in the future. I know I would be. Well...maybe not.

When Mr. Wilf announced that they (The Vikings) would no longer be as forthcoming with information, I - and many other fans - rejoiced. Finally, we wouldn't telegraph our every move. We wouldn't be spoon feeding every other NFL franchise our hopes, dreams, and aspirations.

The reporters (and again, I use the term loosely), acted like they'd been deported to China, and asked to write exclusively in Swahili (even though they don't speak Swahili in China...didn't want to confuse any reporters you may read this to). In essence, once the golden spoon of Viking insider info was removed, they threw a giant hissy fit. What's the matter? Have they gotten so used to the Vikings doing their job for them that they've forgotten how? If that's the case, perhaps you should seek out some new reporters...or, rather, some REAL reporters.

This brings me to my second question; "When Mr. Powers talks about the information blackout, and the "people" who are becoming concerned, does he have anyone specific in mind, or is he merely speculating?"

It seems to me that a lot of speculation by the press has lead to a lot of bad things in the past. The press speculated - to no end - that the Vikings would try and trade Randy Moss after his Lambeau incident January 9th of 2005. They speculated quite a lot about Randy's "behavioral issues" and it's alleged negative impact on the team. So, the Vikings traded him. That, of course, lead to the press crucifying the Vikings for trading away the best receiver in the NFL.

More recently, we had the Daunte Culpepper debacle. The press speculated for WEEKS that the Vikings were trying to move Culpepper. They listed teams they believed to be interested, they pestered the Viking staff and ownership about it, and they ran amok with nothing to create a sensationalistic stir when none existed. Then, once a problem arose (Likely from Daunte reading said blather and having his feelings hurt), they IMMEDIATELY blamed the Vikings for trading him.

How much worse would it be to have these same people with access to information BEFORE it becomes fact? These people who create issues where none exist - just to sell copy - then blame the Vikings for having to respond to it? Again, and this is simply my opinion, this doesn't sound like the kind of people I would want to share information with. Perhaps Randy Moss was a lot smarter than you guys thought when he elected NOT to talk to the media (I know I always thought he was).

When all is said and done, Mr. Powers' article didn't sway my opinion one iota in his direction. It simply reaffirmed my belief that the media should be kept as far away as possible during any and all activities which could have an impact upon the Vikings team and/or organization as a whole. Mr. Powers job - if I understand what a reporter truly is - is to report the truth...not his version of it. It is to gather information - factual information of course - and relay it to the reading public (Who may or may not be interested in it) and allow THEM to make up their own minds about it. Not to launch a petulant tirade about being cut out of the information loop while criticizing every decision he becomes aware of and insulting those who made them.

While I realize that I run some risk in picking a fight with the guy who gets the last word (After all, I neither own nor work for a newspaper), this kind of juvenile journalism really ticks me off. So, for the record, let me say to Mr. Powers that I am NOT concerned by the recent actions of the Viking Organization. I have every faith and confidence that they are doing what they feel is best for the organization, and that they have a far greater understanding of what is needed and required to take the Vikings - and, vicariously, their fans - to the Superbowl. After all, they have all the REAL insider information...and they aren't sharing. Good for them!!!

J. Walker
Janesville, WI
Viking Fan since birth (1966)

Whiney reporters tick me off.

Caine

mnjamie
03-17-2006, 05:05 PM
I knew someone had to send something to Powers sooner or later about this .... :lol:


GREAT LETTER Caine !!! Keep fighting the good fight ... your going to have to let us know if you get a response ...

Prophet
03-17-2006, 05:10 PM
"cajunvike" wrote:

So does that make the media a Gaggle of Goobers?

Either that or a Colony of Cretins.

VikesfaninWis
03-17-2006, 05:11 PM
I love seeing reporters get their panties in a bunch when they don't get what they want... :grin:

Honestly, I don't live in Minnesota, but these reporters are far worse then the ones in Wisconsin, and that is bad. I use to believe that the reporters in Wisconsin were pathetic, but Minnesota's beat them.

You can just see all those idiots in the same room, figuring what they are going to make up so someone will speak to them. Do they realize that when they post these stupid articles, that maybe Childress and the rest of the staff won't talk to them? I agree with Childress, Fu@k the press, it's none of their dam business what is going on with the game plan at Winter Park.

COJOMAY
03-17-2006, 05:18 PM
Caine:
I know that Powers has his e-mail address at the end of his article but I don't want to send a letter to him. I want management to see the letter I am going to write. Who did you send you letter to? Did you e-mail it?

Prophet
03-17-2006, 05:19 PM
"Caine" wrote:

Copy of the email I sent to the Editor of the Pioneer Press about the article:...

Glad you took time to write to them, let us know their response. It should be interesting.

"Turboe" wrote:

Coach Childress is actually a stage name for Bart Bryant. Look on the bright side Bart (I mean Coach Childress) is leading the event as of yesterday.

:lol: , that is awesome.

VikesfaninWis
03-17-2006, 05:21 PM
"Caine" wrote:

Copy of the email I sent to the Editor of the Pioneer Press about the article:

I recently read Tom Power's article about the Vikings recent silence towards the media...and all I can think to say is, "Someone sounds bitter".

It never ceases to amaze me how a reporter (and I use the term loosely) seems to think that their job (reporting news) somehow means that they should be granted full access to, well, everything. And, God forbid, should anyone or anything somehow restrict or curtail that access, those same "reporters" start launching tirades at the unwillingness of the entity involved to share information. Which leads me to my first question; "At which point did Mr. Powers buy controlling interest in the Vikings?"

I ask this because, as a privately held entity, the Vikings are under absolutely no legal or moral obligation to share any information whatsoever with Mr. Powers...or anyone else. They do not have to discuss potential free agent signings, possible draft selections, trade possibilities, roster cuts, or any of the other Viking related issues which Mr. Powers believes (it would seem) to be his right/duty/obligation to "report". By the same token, Mr. Powers is not obligated to reveal his spending habits, bank account numbers, or credit worthiness with us - the reading public. The difference is, we're not asking him to.

I couldn't help but notice the various titles Mr. Powers attributed to the people in charge of the Vikings. We went from the "Triangle of Authority" (Coined by Mr. Wilf I believe), to the "Rectangle of Rubes", to the "Pentagon of Pinheads". I'm sure that after unveiling those oh-so-clever (yet oh-so-juvenile) titles, the Viking staff is in a panic trying to find Mr. Powers private line so that they can answer his every question and solicit his opinion on any and all Viking related decisions they will make now or in the future. I know I would be. Well...maybe not.

When Mr. Wilf announced that they (The Vikings) would no longer be as forthcoming with information, I - and many other fans - rejoiced. Finally, we wouldn't telegraph our every move. We wouldn't be spoon feeding every other NFL franchise our hopes, dreams, and aspirations.

The reporters (and again, I use the term loosely), acted like they'd been deported to China, and asked to write exclusively in Swahili (even though they don't speak Swahili in China...didn't want to confuse any reporters you may read this to). In essence, once the golden spoon of Viking insider info was removed, they threw a giant hissy fit. What's the matter? Have they gotten so used to the Vikings doing their job for them that they've forgotten how? If that's the case, perhaps you should seek out some new reporters...or, rather, some REAL reporters.

This brings me to my second question; "When Mr. Powers talks about the information blackout, and the "people" who are becoming concerned, does he have anyone specific in mind, or is he merely speculating?"

It seems to me that a lot of speculation by the press has lead to a lot of bad things in the past. The press speculated - to no end - that the Vikings would try and trade Randy Moss after his Lambeau incident January 9th of 2005. They speculated quite a lot about Randy's "behavioral issues" and it's alleged negative impact on the team. So, the Vikings traded him. That, of course, lead to the press crucifying the Vikings for trading away the best receiver in the NFL.

More recently, we had the Daunte Culpepper debacle. The press speculated for WEEKS that the Vikings were trying to move Culpepper. They listed teams they believed to be interested, they pestered the Viking staff and ownership about it, and they ran amok with nothing to create a sensationalistic stir when none existed. Then, once a problem arose (Likely from Daunte reading said blather and having his feelings hurt), they IMMEDIATELY blamed the Vikings for trading him.

How much worse would it be to have these same people with access to information BEFORE it becomes fact? These people who create issues where none exist - just to sell copy - then blame the Vikings for having to respond to it? Again, and this is simply my opinion, this doesn't sound like the kind of people I would want to share information with. Perhaps Randy Moss was a lot smarter than you guys thought when he elected NOT to talk to the media (I know I always thought he was).

When all is said and done, Mr. Powers' article didn't sway my opinion one iota in his direction. It simply reaffirmed my belief that the media should be kept as far away as possible during any and all activities which could have an impact upon the Vikings team and/or organization as a whole. Mr. Powers job - if I understand what a reporter truly is - is to report the truth...not his version of it. It is to gather information - factual information of course - and relay it to the reading public (Who may or may not be interested in it) and allow THEM to make up their own minds about it. Not to launch a petulant tirade about being cut out of the information loop while criticizing every decision he becomes aware of and insulting those who made them.

While I realize that I run some risk in picking a fight with the guy who gets the last word (After all, I neither own nor work for a newspaper), this kind of juvenile journalism really ticks me off. So, for the record, let me say to Mr. Powers that I am NOT concerned by the recent actions of the Viking Organization. I have every faith and confidence that they are doing what they feel is best for the organization, and that they have a far greater understanding of what is needed and required to take the Vikings - and, vicariously, their fans - to the Superbowl. After all, they have all the REAL insider information...and they aren't sharing. Good for them!!!

J. Walker
Janesville, WI
Viking Fan since birth (1966)

Whiney reporters tick me off.

Caine



Way to go Mr. Walker.... That was a great response to the article that the idiot wrote... Now I bet that they overlook these types of responses when a concerned reader sends them in. They probably don't take it as a insult, seeing as though they are pathetic journalists that have to make stuff up just to sell a paper.

I can't stand people like that, and I am very happy that Childress and Wilf are being quiet, and keeping these fools in the dark. Now I know that your response will not keep them from talking out of their bum's, I just wonder when the next total lie article will be posted? Good job Caine, you pretty much talked for alot of us fans when sending that in. :grin:

VikesfaninWis
03-17-2006, 05:23 PM
"Turboe" wrote:

I just figured out why Childress has not been readily available for the media for the last week. And it isnt as much of a conspiracy plot as the media would like to believe.

It is simple. It dawned on me just a few seconds ago as I was sitting here watching the TiVo of yesterdays golf coverage of the Bay Hill Invitational. I was watching when I noticed Childress was playing in the event. I thought I recognized him when the Viking introduced him at their press conference several months ago (and it wasnt from seeing him on the Eagles staff). Although he is definitely trying to make Eagles.

Coach Childress is actually a stage name for Bart Bryant. Look on the bright side Bart (I mean Coach Childress) is leading the event as of yesterday.

Go Coach!!!!

http://www.cincinnatigolfcourseguide.com/images/bart-bryant.jpg

http://images.pgatour.com/tournaments/britishopen/photos/img8537022.jpg


LOL, wow that does look just like him... Scary isn't it?

Wiggles67
03-17-2006, 05:25 PM
Caine, great letter man. Im a smart guy but am horrible at English and can never seem to get what I'm thinking on paper (or email). So thank you for taking the time to put together such an articulate article in response to this goofball.

fromos
03-17-2006, 05:29 PM
Well, the thing to keep in mind here is this is the off-season. How many press releases and news conferences must the Vikings be giving when the season got over about a month ago?

snowinapril
03-17-2006, 05:29 PM
"Prophet" wrote:

"snowinapril" wrote:

The writer may be pissed, I would be too.

If Childress can do a XM radio gig, but can't do a local PC, that is bogus.

It sounds to me like another PISSING MATCH that our coach has gotten himself into.

Like the writer said, he better win. If he doesn't, all of the writers will have nothing good to say at all. Public opinion is easily swayed by the Press, and he is not looking too good so far to them. The fans and the ticket holders will be calling for his head.

Hopefully it will change after the draft.

Tommy's whole premise is null and void because of this article (http://purplepride.org/index.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=20202). He let his emotions dictate his questionable journalistic skills and came out of the deal looking like a fool.

Yes he does look foolish.

What I wrote was simply what I think will happen if things don't change.

Parcels for example, HATES, I mean HATES the press. But, even he knows you have to give some fodder to them. It just isn't good to give them nothing.

Reporters are no longer reporters, they are now all half editors doing editorials or stories, not reporters doing reporting.

I agree and see logic in what Cain wrote in his letter. I just think that it could be handled better on the Vikings side. They need to get someone in there to advise them on PR.

The only thing I can think of is that they are trying to send the message that we won't play ball until we get the positive stories and get help promoting our stadium in your papers.

Prophet
03-17-2006, 05:47 PM
"snowinapril" wrote:

"Prophet" wrote:

"snowinapril" wrote:

The writer may be pissed, I would be too.

If Childress can do a XM radio gig, but can't do a local PC, that is bogus.

It sounds to me like another PISSING MATCH that our coach has gotten himself into.

Like the writer said, he better win. If he doesn't, all of the writers will have nothing good to say at all. Public opinion is easily swayed by the Press, and he is not looking too good so far to them. The fans and the ticket holders will be calling for his head.

Hopefully it will change after the draft.

Tommy's whole premise is null and void because of this article (http://purplepride.org/index.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=20202). He let his emotions dictate his questionable journalistic skills and came out of the deal looking like a fool.

Yes he does look foolish.

What I wrote was simply what I think will happen if things don't change.

Parcels for example, HATES, I mean HATES the press. But, even he knows you have to give some fodder to them. It just isn't good to give them nothing.

Reporters are no longer reporters, they are now all half editors doing editorials or stories, not reporters doing reporting.

I agree and see logic in what Cain wrote in his letter. I just think that it could be handled better on the Vikings side. They need to get someone in there to advise them on PR.

The only thing I can think of is that they are trying to send the message that we won't play ball until we get the positive stories and get help promoting our stadium in your papers.

Yes, there is always room for improvement in the PR department for any organization. People are people, they (Childress et al. and local reporters) have to build up a rapport with each other. There are more pressing issues at hand as I see it.

The perception of the organization is key in getting a new stadium. I'm sure Childress' participation in the stadium issue meeting last night was not optional. I'm convinced that he would have gone to the hearing even if it was optional.

I disagree that there is a conspiracy within the Vikings organization regarding only leaking information if it will be used in a positive light. That would be impossible unless they hired their own drone reporters and infiltrated the local media. Sure, Wilf wants positive light shed on the team because he wants the stadium issue resolved in his favor.

I'm more on the side that they have overlooked the possibility of using the media rather then having the media use them. The moronic reporters will continue to be moronic, the good reporters (are there any left?) will report the facts and add their personal opinion to the mix, but you should be able to differentiate between the facts and opinions.

My long-winded response can be summarized by, yeah, it appears they do need a better professional PR person working within the organization.

COJOMAY
03-17-2006, 05:52 PM
WOW! Sid Hartman has got TWO GREAT ARTICLES on the Vikings in two days. He talks about the Childress/Daunte fiasco to some length. Where did he get his information?????
Well, he went to a press conference by Childress, he mentions. Gee, I wonder why Powers wasn't there.
Here's a link to Sid's article in the Tribune today which Singer has posted under the heading: "Childress: Money was Culpepper's main focus"
http://www.startribune.com/507/story/312796.html

Caine
03-18-2006, 12:54 AM
"COJOMAY" wrote:

Caine:
I know that Powers has his e-mail address at the end of his article but I don't want to send a letter to him. I want management to see the letter I am going to write. Who did you send you letter to? Did you e-mail it?

I actually sent the letter to the Editor's addy - probably get lost somewhere in the shuffle and they'll instead print some blather about some fat lady complaining about theatre seats being too narrow...or McDonald's coffee being too hot.

The addy I used was letters@pioneerpress.com.

I'm toying with the idea of sending one to Mr Powers personally, but I - truthfully - didn't see his addy on the version I read. Plus, I had been "alive and kicking" for almost 24 hours when I wrote it (I have now slept...yay me). The final reason I sent it where I did is "Accountability".

I figure that Tom Powers has to answer to his boss...just like most of us do. And if his boss saw the letter, he might start asking questions. Sending it to Powers himself would stop the process right there as he could simply ignore it and move on. So, I wanted someone else to see it as well...ANYONE else.

I am finding that as I get older and grumpier, what passes for news begins to infuriate me. I'm tired of reading editorializations of issues - I want the FACTS. I want both sides of the story, unaltered, and the freedom to make up my own mind about what is right, wrong, or beneath notice. I don't need my opinion fed to me in pre-chewed form.

I don't see this very often. The Sid Hartman article (About the Childress press conference) was an EXCELLENT piece. It told me what transpired, gave me the meat of the information to chew on, and had just a smattering of Mr. Hartman's opinion tossed in for seasoning. I can live with that.

What I can't live with is a full piece loaded with nothing but opinion, conjecture, and derision. That's not news, that's a rant. And rants belong in Op/Ed pieces, not mixed in with real news.

Truth be told, I will be shocked if they reply. I doubt they will. The last thing they are likely to want is someone calling them out about their apparant inability to do their jobs without the Vikings spoon feeding them. It would make them look like what they are...whining biatches.

Caine

PurpleRide
03-18-2006, 01:02 AM
You people should realize by him not talking it would just give certain people in St. Paul ammo for refusing a stadium deal.
Yes the vikings are a private company, and I am glad tice is not around telling the world about future plans and what we will run on 2nd and 4 with 8min left in the 2nd Quarter in the 10th game of the season.
BUT, if you trade one of your top players, you should have to answer to the fans on why you did that. The media has the right to ask questions and he is refusing to do anything. Zigy is the only one talking at all and that should not be the case. I want to hear from the coach, not the owner. He has a point, the coach has to speak from time to time.

vikingsbenchwarmer
03-18-2006, 01:04 AM
Seriously you dont have a point, he is not adding to fire with fuel rather sand lol hahaha

xvikingfan
03-18-2006, 01:11 AM
Talk about what?Culpepper wanted to play in Florida where he lives.Now he does.

Ltrey33
03-18-2006, 01:12 AM
Cry me a freaking river Powers. I love how he's acting like a baby just to get people to turn against the Vikes....I hope that people see through his ploy.

COJOMAY
03-18-2006, 01:53 AM
Here's a copy of the letter I just sent:


I am writing to you in reference to Tom Powers article in the March 17th issue of the Pioneer Press entitled, "Childress Hiding Out As Vikings Keep Quiet."
As a former newspaper editor, I am "ticked-off" at this article but not surprised. Ticked off because it shows me that Mr. Powers seems to be waiting at his desk for news to come to him rather than go out and seek it as any good reporter should.
Let me quote to you from the opening paragraph: "It's been approximately 72 hours since one of the greatest players in Vikings history was traded to the Miami Dophins. There still hasn't been a Childress sighting. Nor have we heard the slightest peep emanating from his bunker at Winter Park."
I find this an interesting quote by Mr. Powers since on the same day Sid Hartman in your former competition was at a press conference hosted by Childress and had several interesting quotes from him concerning why the trade was made and how it all came about.
How can Mr. Powers write an article blasting Coach Childress for disappearing from view when another paper seems to get plenty of quotes from him?
Another thing...
Mr. Powers seems to think that the Vikings should spoon feed him all his information as apparently they did when Mr. Tice as the coach. Well, this organization isn't like the days of Mike Tice. They want to withhold information on their plans for free agency and the upcoming draft from other teams. I, and virtually all of the people I come in contact with through the internet, seem to like this way of doing things. Yet Mr. Powers says the majority of people don't like this.
Actually, I think the "majority" is one lazy reporter who can't seem to find a news story if it bit him in the rear.
I also find it interesting that your reporters wanted to "crucify" the players on the "Love Boat" as you referred to it at the time the story broke. But when Culpepper is traded you suddenly change your tune that the whole affair was blown all out of proporation. Well, who blew it out of proporation?
I could go on and on about your shabby treatment of the Vikings organization because of their presumed "silence." It seems you can't stand being left out of the loop. If there is a "loop" that you are being kept out of it's because your sports reporters, and especially Tom Powers have a loop around them tying them to a desk rather than pounding the pavement as any good reporter would do.
Now that the Tribune's news group has bought the Pioneer Press, maybe they can teach you how to get the news rather than report no news!

Sincerely,


John Maynard
A Viking Fan

whackthepack
03-18-2006, 02:18 AM
"PurpleRide" wrote:

You people should realize by him not talking it would just give certain people in St. Paul ammo for refusing a stadium deal.
Yes the vikings are a private company, and I am glad tice is not around telling the world about future plans and what we will run on 2nd and 4 with 8min left in the 2nd Quarter in the 10th game of the season.
BUT, if you trade one of your top players, you should have to answer to the fans on why you did that. The media has the right to ask questions and he is refusing to do anything. Zigy is the only one talking at all and that should not be the case. I want to hear from the coach, not the owner. He has a point, the coach has to speak from time to time.


He interviewed with Sid Hartman a reporter in the Twin Cities, it is in the Star Trib (the top news paper in sales in Minny) today, that article was in today's paper. Tell Powers to shut his pie hole and somebody step on his fingers!

Mr. Purple
03-18-2006, 02:24 AM
haha I like it in a way. Hes serious, hes come to play some football games and thats that.

NordicNed
03-18-2006, 02:49 AM
I'm loving it....LMFAO


Childress is tight lipped, so those blood sucking media ass whites can't put a spin on anything...

What did powers say?...Kidney problems?.....

Well Powers is probably close to a coronary attack....LOL

purplegang
03-18-2006, 02:50 AM
I like that there is no gossip, thats better for the team

Prophet
03-18-2006, 01:40 PM
"COJOMAY" wrote:

Here's a copy of the letter I just sent:


I am writing to you in reference to Tom Powers article in the March 17th issue of the Pioneer Press entitled, "Childress Hiding Out As Vikings Keep Quiet."
As a former newspaper editor, I am "ticked-off" at this article but not surprised. Ticked off because it shows me that Mr. Powers seems to be waiting at his desk for news to come to him rather than go out and seek it as any good reporter should.
Let me quote to you from the opening paragraph: "It's been approximately 72 hours since one of the greatest players in Vikings history was traded to the Miami Dophins. There still hasn't been a Childress sighting. Nor have we heard the slightest peep emanating from his bunker at Winter Park."
I find this an interesting quote by Mr. Powers since on the same day Sid Hartman in your former competition was at a press conference hosted by Childress and had several interesting quotes from him concerning why the trade was made and how it all came about.
How can Mr. Powers write an article blasting Coach Childress for disappearing from view when another paper seems to get plenty of quotes from him?
Another thing...
Mr. Powers seems to think that the Vikings should spoon feed him all his information as apparently they did when Mr. Tice as the coach. Well, this organization isn't like the days of Mike Tice. They want to withhold information on their plans for free agency and the upcoming draft from other teams. I, and virtually all of the people I come in contact with through the internet, seem to like this way of doing things. Yet Mr. Powers says the majority of people don't like this.
Actually, I think the "majority" is one lazy reporter who can't seem to find a news story if it bit him in the rear.
I also find it interesting that your reporters wanted to "crucify" the players on the "Love Boat" as you referred to it at the time the story broke. But when Culpepper is traded you suddenly change your tune that the whole affair was blown all out of proporation. Well, who blew it out of proporation?
I could go on and on about your shabby treatment of the Vikings organization because of their presumed "silence." It seems you can't stand being left out of the loop. If there is a "loop" that you are being kept out of it's because your sports reporters, and especially Tom Powers have a loop around them tying them to a desk rather than pounding the pavement as any good reporter would do.
Now that the Tribune's news group has bought the Pioneer Press, maybe they can teach you how to get the news rather than report no news!

Sincerely,


John Maynard
A Viking Fan

Good Coj. The more letters the better. Is the candidate pool really that pathetic for writers that people like Tom Powers secure jobs? Amazing.

whiteviking24
03-18-2006, 02:01 PM
caine: that letter said it all....GREAT JOB !

collegeguyjeff
03-19-2006, 02:05 AM
tom powers is so dumb for writing that. one thing is the more we talk about it the more it looks like the trade hurt us; that will blow dauntes head up even bigger and make him think he's better than he is.

and just like the other person said it's private stuff the vikings don't want everyone to know everything that is going on.

TheAnimal93
03-19-2006, 02:35 AM
Caine,
You outdid yourself. (not really, I would expect exactly that out of you.)
Great way to put it all in perspective. Wonderful.
It's about time that the reporters got a foot up their silliness.

Loose lips sink ships!

BBQ Platypus
03-19-2006, 02:41 AM
Tom Powers is a douchebag. Way to call him out, Caine. They shouldn't tell anyone about their plans. Although I've been wondering myself if they're planning anything at all.

"Well, we've got Hutch. Let's call it an offseason!"

I'm already calling them the Triangle of Tards. No, wait. The circle of stupidity. Triangles have too many pointy edges. Don't want them to hurt themselves. This moniker is derived not for their lack of blabbering, which is good, but for their lack of action to address key holes, which is horrible and just plain stupid.

jaymz7
03-19-2006, 03:22 AM
Great job Cojoman and Caine.

Ltrey33
03-19-2006, 03:29 AM
"Caine" wrote:

Copy of the email I sent to the Editor of the Pioneer Press about the article:

I recently read Tom Power's article about the Vikings recent silence towards the media...and all I can think to say is, "Someone sounds bitter".

It never ceases to amaze me how a reporter (and I use the term loosely) seems to think that their job (reporting news) somehow means that they should be granted full access to, well, everything. And, God forbid, should anyone or anything somehow restrict or curtail that access, those same "reporters" start launching tirades at the unwillingness of the entity involved to share information. Which leads me to my first question; "At which point did Mr. Powers buy controlling interest in the Vikings?"

I ask this because, as a privately held entity, the Vikings are under absolutely no legal or moral obligation to share any information whatsoever with Mr. Powers...or anyone else. They do not have to discuss potential free agent signings, possible draft selections, trade possibilities, roster cuts, or any of the other Viking related issues which Mr. Powers believes (it would seem) to be his right/duty/obligation to "report". By the same token, Mr. Powers is not obligated to reveal his spending habits, bank account numbers, or credit worthiness with us - the reading public. The difference is, we're not asking him to.

I couldn't help but notice the various titles Mr. Powers attributed to the people in charge of the Vikings. We went from the "Triangle of Authority" (Coined by Mr. Wilf I believe), to the "Rectangle of Rubes", to the "Pentagon of Pinheads". I'm sure that after unveiling those oh-so-clever (yet oh-so-juvenile) titles, the Viking staff is in a panic trying to find Mr. Powers private line so that they can answer his every question and solicit his opinion on any and all Viking related decisions they will make now or in the future. I know I would be. Well...maybe not.

When Mr. Wilf announced that they (The Vikings) would no longer be as forthcoming with information, I - and many other fans - rejoiced. Finally, we wouldn't telegraph our every move. We wouldn't be spoon feeding every other NFL franchise our hopes, dreams, and aspirations.

The reporters (and again, I use the term loosely), acted like they'd been deported to China, and asked to write exclusively in Swahili (even though they don't speak Swahili in China...didn't want to confuse any reporters you may read this to). In essence, once the golden spoon of Viking insider info was removed, they threw a giant hissy fit. What's the matter? Have they gotten so used to the Vikings doing their job for them that they've forgotten how? If that's the case, perhaps you should seek out some new reporters...or, rather, some REAL reporters.

This brings me to my second question; "When Mr. Powers talks about the information blackout, and the "people" who are becoming concerned, does he have anyone specific in mind, or is he merely speculating?"

It seems to me that a lot of speculation by the press has lead to a lot of bad things in the past. The press speculated - to no end - that the Vikings would try and trade Randy Moss after his Lambeau incident January 9th of 2005. They speculated quite a lot about Randy's "behavioral issues" and it's alleged negative impact on the team. So, the Vikings traded him. That, of course, lead to the press crucifying the Vikings for trading away the best receiver in the NFL.

More recently, we had the Daunte Culpepper debacle. The press speculated for WEEKS that the Vikings were trying to move Culpepper. They listed teams they believed to be interested, they pestered the Viking staff and ownership about it, and they ran amok with nothing to create a sensationalistic stir when none existed. Then, once a problem arose (Likely from Daunte reading said blather and having his feelings hurt), they IMMEDIATELY blamed the Vikings for trading him.

How much worse would it be to have these same people with access to information BEFORE it becomes fact? These people who create issues where none exist - just to sell copy - then blame the Vikings for having to respond to it? Again, and this is simply my opinion, this doesn't sound like the kind of people I would want to share information with. Perhaps Randy Moss was a lot smarter than you guys thought when he elected NOT to talk to the media (I know I always thought he was).

When all is said and done, Mr. Powers' article didn't sway my opinion one iota in his direction. It simply reaffirmed my belief that the media should be kept as far away as possible during any and all activities which could have an impact upon the Vikings team and/or organization as a whole. Mr. Powers job - if I understand what a reporter truly is - is to report the truth...not his version of it. It is to gather information - factual information of course - and relay it to the reading public (Who may or may not be interested in it) and allow THEM to make up their own minds about it. Not to launch a petulant tirade about being cut out of the information loop while criticizing every decision he becomes aware of and insulting those who made them.

While I realize that I run some risk in picking a fight with the guy who gets the last word (After all, I neither own nor work for a newspaper), this kind of juvenile journalism really ticks me off. So, for the record, let me say to Mr. Powers that I am NOT concerned by the recent actions of the Viking Organization. I have every faith and confidence that they are doing what they feel is best for the organization, and that they have a far greater understanding of what is needed and required to take the Vikings - and, vicariously, their fans - to the Superbowl. After all, they have all the REAL insider information...and they aren't sharing. Good for them!!!

J. Walker
Janesville, WI
Viking Fan since birth (1966)

Whiney reporters tick me off.

Caine

That's awesome Caine.

COJOMAY
03-19-2006, 03:32 AM
BBQ Platypus:
I know it's your birthday and all but I got to call you out on this one. We may not have some of the BIG NAMES you wanted in the FA, but I think that we got some GREAT talent. We have filled some of the holes we had and we may fill some more in FA. At the very least n the draft.
I don't expect us to win the Super Bowl this year. With a new coaching staff and a lot of new faces, we got to learn to work and play together as a team. I think this is what the TOA is trying to do. Not get any one superstar and cries and pouts if they don't get the ball enough so they can earn more money on their next contract, but want to play together for the good of the whole team. That's the kind of play you see from New England, and it's worked.
Give these people some time. If in two or three years you don't see a vas timprovement, then I'll take up your cry and follow you. Until then, cool it!
And by the way, I'm not calling you out for a fight -- this 67 year old man couldn't whip and young guy like yourself! LOL

BBQ Platypus
03-19-2006, 05:52 AM
Well...I kind of wanted at least ONE...not one of the spoiled ones. You don't tend to find too many of those on defense. The only loud-mouthed ones I can think of are Smoot and Sanders, and they still played to win. I mean, we could at least go after MORE linebackers. I wouldn't feel so bad if we had THREE Ben Lebers...but just getting one isn't enough for this LB corps. Maybe one Leber and a Peterson.

COJOMAY
03-19-2006, 05:59 AM
I understand.

umaguma1979
03-19-2006, 06:17 AM
It will be interesting to see if Childress amounts to anything. I mean Tice had half a deck (if that!!!) to play with - this getting everything he wants upfront. Let's hope he is not another Les Steckel. I don't think the reprocussions of trading Daunte will be felt until preseason.

Purple Floyd
03-19-2006, 06:30 AM
If he puts together the right team and staff he can win it with johnson. Others have.

collegeguyjeff
03-19-2006, 09:05 AM
"BBQ Platypus" wrote:

Well...I kind of wanted at least ONE...not one of the spoiled ones. You don't tend to find too many of those on defense. The only loud-mouthed ones I can think of are Smoot and Sanders, and they still played to win. I mean, we could at least go after MORE linebackers. I wouldn't feel so bad if we had THREE Ben Lebers...but just getting one isn't enough for this LB corps. Maybe one Leber and a Peterson.

never know childress might want to evaluate the linebackers this year and he might think they are doing good or he might dump/trade some next year