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pepper 0n moss
07-08-2004, 11:46 PM
here's a great article on Robert Smith, former Ohio State and Minnesota Viking stand-out running back

http://www.startribune.com/stories/510/4867515.html

article includes tidbits on why he retired, his perspective of professional atheletes, his upcoming auto-biography, and rumors of him making a comeback

thoughts?

wow, i finally know why he retired now ... i never knew he was so intellectual ... i find it funny though, how he's so deep and profound on his view of being a professional athelete and they aren't the true heroes, but he won't throw away his pride by playing for the lowly cardinals ahem emmitt smith ahem

wyviking
07-08-2004, 11:57 PM
that would been cool if he did a come back but o well. you wonder if he still be any good, most likly so. but he seems like he rather do what he is doing now insted

NeoVikesTX
07-09-2004, 12:00 AM
Nice article, thanks for the link.
I always loved Robert Smith, when he was healthy he was something to watch, fast and quick. I wondered why he just retired like that, guess he is too brainy for his own good. Great athlete none-the-less.

briboy75
07-09-2004, 12:36 AM
robert smith is a hero

wyviking
07-09-2004, 01:04 AM
yea he was a hero to the sport of football, but like he was saying he isnt a true hero like fire fighters and people like them.

hawaiianvike21
07-09-2004, 05:05 AM
Maybe he got fed up with the two losses of the championchip games that he couldnt take another season and work even harder to get back there. http://www.nfl-fans.com/html/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

VikingsTw
07-09-2004, 06:36 AM
yeah that could be true because he wanted to win a championship for sure, like he said he would have came back if denny went to a team who would contened for the superbowl, so maybe he just got sick of loosing and wanted to do other things with his life so he retired

nat_devine
07-09-2004, 09:30 AM
I would have loved to have watched him a couple more years. He was very fun to watch. He was definately my favorite and I can't wait to read his book. I've been waiting for it since he first mentioned it. :thumbright:

casper
07-09-2004, 09:43 AM
Great link thanks

kramer9guy
07-09-2004, 09:48 AM
Hero? No. He actually seems kind of self rightous. He was a very good player for us but left in the prime of his career. A bit reminescent of a second rate Barry Sanders. Sure I'd like to see a comeback, but not as a Denny Green crony on some opposing team. Too bad, the guy had some good years left. Now I just look back at his career as an injury prone quitter with self interests as his #1 priority. If it wasn't for this book he's trying to promote and sell ($$$), he wouldn't be doing interviews or going to Vike training camp signing books. Sure, I have some good memories about Robert Smith, but hopefully I have some better memories about Michael Bennett.

Big Daddy
07-09-2004, 10:18 AM
"kramer9guy" wrote:

Now I just look back at his career as an injury prone quitter with self interests as his #1 priority. If it wasn't for this book he's trying to promote and sell ($$$), he wouldn't be doing interviews or going to Vike training camp signing books.

Wow, do you really think money is his only motivation for going to camp? Do you really think he started making more money after he left the NFL?

kramer9guy
07-09-2004, 10:22 AM
"Big Daddy" wrote:

"kramer9guy" wrote:

Now I just look back at his career as an injury prone quitter with self interests as his #1 priority. If it wasn't for this book he's trying to promote and sell ($$$), he wouldn't be doing interviews or going to Vike training camp signing books.

Wow, do you really think money is his only motivation for going to camp? Do you really think he started making more money after he left the NFL?

Of course he's doing it for money. That's why people promote books. I'm sure he's making a fine living nowadays but how many times has he been back since he left? I don't think he's doing it out of the kindness of his heart.

purplehorn
07-09-2004, 10:27 AM
Robert smith was a class act who tried to help
and did help the team. It was his choice when to retire just as it will be for any of us.

kramer9guy
07-09-2004, 10:38 AM
"purplehorn" wrote:

Robert smith was a class act who tried to help
and did help the team. It was his choice when to retire just as it will be for any of us.

No argument there.

renovikesfan
07-09-2004, 10:58 AM
"kramer9guy" wrote:

"purplehorn" wrote:

Robert smith was a class act who tried to help and did help the team. It was his choice when to retire just as it will be for any of us.

No argument there.


No argument? What was going on when you said "Now I just look back at his career as an injury prone quitter with self interests as his #1 priority."?...which is it...is he a class act who tried to help (and did), or is he an injury-prone quitter, who, by another definition of yours, is also self-righteous?

Sorry, man, but you kinda struck a nerve with me by comparing him to Barry Sanders, who really DID punk out and shaft his team. The way I see it, the difference is that Sanders quit AFTER the Draft and left the Lions in a big time hurt at RB, where Smitty left the Vikes BEFORE the Draft, and gave them a chance to fill his position well before the season started.

Why get on a guy's case for wanting to retire at the top of his game and get out while he still has a working body? These guys aren't just robots put out on the field for our amusement and entertainment. And so what if he's trying to promote his book? More power to him.

kramer9guy
07-09-2004, 12:00 PM
Jeez, calm down before you have an idol worship aneurysm.

#1) I agree anyone can choose to retire when and as they please.
#2) He was a class act during his eight years as a Viking (believe me, he was one of my faves during that era).
#3) He was injury prone during his career (he even admits that) and did quit before he should have when it comes to his stats.
#4) And yes, he seems very self-righteous to me. That's just my opinion. Others may see him as a down to earth guy who made all the right choices for the betterment of the team, fans and organization. I do not.
#5) Yes, he did graciously leave at a time when we had a chance to draft a RB the following year, but he did leave the game in his prime like Sanders and that is where that comparison comes in.
#6) Yes, these players are out there for our amusement and entertainment...in addition to there own. That is why they get paid the big bucks. We watch.
#7) There is nothing wrong with promoting his book. I am a 100% supporter of capitalist society. Yes, more power to him. All I was commenting on was that the only reason he is coming out of the woodwork now is to promote the book. He is not going to camp for the love of the fans or the organization. If Denny Green was coaching the 49'ers this year, we might see Smith in the red and gold not purple and gold.

I respect what Smith did as a Viking during his eight years. I am just disappointed in him for quitting when he did. And I am glad his body isn't too damaged from playing the game. All it comes down to is the fact that there are some players who play the game with all they have. They give 100% from day one until they physically can't anymore. And yes, they pay for it. I don't think Smith is one of those players. Which is a good thing for him physically.

In the end I think that he was good, very good, but all in all, he wasn't great.

purplepat
07-10-2004, 07:23 AM
As a long-time Vikings fan (since 69), I consider Robert Smith one of the greatest Vikings of all time. And this is not just because of his performance on the field, but in particular because of his performance off of it.

That part in the article about sitting out a year in college? It was basically him fighting with his coaches about practice/training time. Smith felt his academic studies were the MOST important thing in his college career, and would not sacrifice them for football. He is a shining example of what an athlete CAN be...educated, intelligent, well-spoken, polite, dedicated, and has his head on straight and priorities set properly. There were actually some stories that after he retired, he was considering going to medical school.

This guy retired at the top of his game. Yes, he injured his knee (again) and faced a long winter/spring of rehab, but he could have done it. As I recall, he decided being able to walk without pain as a 40 year old was more important than earning millions of dollars playing a kid's game.

Robert Smith is, and should be, an inspiration to everyone.

casper
07-10-2004, 07:50 AM
Good call purplepat :cheers: to bad their are not more (there are and LOTS) but 75% who are in the game are only there for money, fame, no matter how they get there it is NO pain NO gain :wink: