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skum
03-05-2006, 11:20 PM
I been flirting with the thought of moving Napoleon Harris to Inside Linebacker..

From what i have found out, the Raiders actually drafted Harris, as an ILB prospect.. And from what i know he actually started in the Superbowl vs Tamba as Inside Linebacker..

Also i would love to sign Jamie Sharper and then it would look something like this

Leber - Napo - J-Sharper..

Any thoughts on this idea??

Mr. Purple
03-05-2006, 11:21 PM
I would like that very much. I'd really like us to get Abdul Hodge to play MLB maybe in the second. But I'm really hoping Nappo didnt go cold turkey on his football skills and can return to playing at a higher level.

VikingsTw
03-05-2006, 11:24 PM
Napo was horrible last year, I'm having doubts about wether he'll ever get back on the field as a starter period. Maybe with good coaching he can get it done, we will see.

As far as i'm concerned his major weakness is coverage, not good.

PurpleManiac
03-05-2006, 11:27 PM
What will we do with EJ then?

I don't think I want Jamie Sharper...he's been bouncing around for a reason. He's might still have the skills to play but I want us to groom a young stud somewhere along that LB position.

Personally, Leber-Napo-Sharper would be extremely horrible.

muchluv4smoot
03-05-2006, 11:30 PM
I can show you guys a ton of my posts from last offseason after we acquired Napo, where I said we are really blowing this Moss trade if we don't use Napo at MLB. He is a much much better suited to play MLB and it showed when he had his best year in Oakland playing MLB in a 4-3.

I don't think he is a stud MLB, but he is twice the player in the middle then he is outside.

If we don't find a MLB this offseason, I wouldn't mind seeing him and DT battle for the starting MLB spot.

I still think we should use EJ at strong side LB though and sign witherspoon or peterson for WILL, instead of this crappy news that we are looking at signing Leber, who is a SAM LB. I guess that could mean we are looking at putting EJ back in the middle and hopefully looking for a WILL this offseason too.

VikesfaninWis
03-05-2006, 11:31 PM
We still have Dontarrius Thomas that is well suited for the cover 2. The problem with him, is that he was under coached with Cottrell. With Tomlin coming in, look for him to be really big on Thomas. He is fast, great coverage, young, and in need of great coaching.. Could be a starter in the new cover 2.

muchluv4smoot
03-05-2006, 11:34 PM
And I will ABSOLUTELY pass on Sharper. He is on the decline of his career. We need to fix our Lb situation with some good players who are hitting their prime like a witherspoon or peterson, or possibly one in the first round of the draft.

PurpleManiac
03-05-2006, 11:39 PM
Well I wouldn't mind signin Jamie for cheap CHEAP CHEAP. If we don't resign Newman we will need some leadership on that defense. Note that he is also Darren Sharpers brother so they might have some kind of chemistry there. Sign him but just don't start him.

muchluv4smoot
03-05-2006, 11:41 PM
"PurpleManiac" wrote:

Well I wouldn't mind signin Jamie for cheap CHEAP CHEAP. If we don't resign Newman we will need some leadership on that defense. Note that he is also Darren Sharpers brother so they might have some kind of chemistry there. Sign him but just don't start him.


Oh yeah, I would take sharper as a backup LB, just not a starter. I think we still need to add 2 starters this offseason to our LB corp.

i_bleed_purple
03-05-2006, 11:43 PM
i highly doubt he would come here if he knew he wouldn't be starting.

if we kept EJ and Newman i'd be happy. we really only need to sign one LB in FA. Newman, EJ, Napo, DT and Leber can battle it out for the other 2 spots.

PurpleManiac
03-05-2006, 11:51 PM
The way our LB corp is..

Newman really isn't starting material. He would be a good LB to rush the passer or as a sub and he probably will stuggle in the new Cover 2 defense.

EJ is our best LB and the only one I'm comfortable starting. I just think he is going to be a beast next season.

Dontarious Thomas is good and very very VERY fast but he's not starting material yet. He still makes alot of mistakes. He is however, our best coverage LB.

Napo is a wildcard. Since Cottrell did not utilize him correctly I'm not to sure if he is good enough to start. I know it was bad enough that he was yanked from starting and his PT went nearly to zero.

Overall our LB was surprisingly solid last year but I will have to agree with Smoot and say we'll need at least 2 new starters there.

VikingsTw
03-05-2006, 11:58 PM
"muchluv4smoot" wrote:

I can show you guys a ton of my posts from last offseason after we acquired Napo, where I said we are really blowing this Moss trade if we don't use Napo at MLB. He is a much much better suited to play MLB and it showed when he had his best year in Oakland playing MLB in a 4-3. I don't think he is a stud MLB, but he is twice the player in the middle then he is outside.

If we don't find a MLB this offseason, I wouldn't mind seeing him and DT battle for the starting MLB spot.

I still think we should use EJ at strong side LB though and sign witherspoon or peterson for WILL, instead of this crappy news that we are looking at signing Leber, who is a SAM LB. I guess that could mean we are looking at putting EJ back in the middle and hopefully looking for a WILL this offseason too.

I can voutch for that, i do remeber you saying that, i was pro because we had cowart and EJ who are both MLB's. Maybe thats his ticket to getting his game back.

VikingsTw
03-06-2006, 12:06 AM
"PurpleManiac" wrote:

The way our LB corp is..

Newman really isn't starting material. He would be a good LB to rush the passer or as a sub and he probably will stuggle in the new Cover 2 defense.

EJ is our best LB and the only one I'm comfortable starting. I just think he is going to be a beast next season.

Dontarious Thomas is good and very very VERY fast but he's not starting material yet. He still makes alot of mistakes. He is however, our best coverage LB.

Napo is a wildcard. Since Cottrell did not utilize him correctly I'm not to sure if he is good enough to start. I know it was bad enough that he was yanked from starting and his PT went nearly to zero.

Overall our LB was surprisingly solid last year but I will have to agree with Smoot and say we'll need at least 2 new starters there.

Call me crazy but i've watched the film and i think EJ is our best in coverage, he's not great but his coverage skills have imporved alot since his first days with us. He has more batted passes then Donatarius and he has the instints to disect pass/run quickly without taking false steps.

Thomas is horrible, i had really high hopes for the guy but everytime he gets on the field i get that feeling he's a major weakness. He has no instincts and just because he has athleticism doesn't mean he's our best in coverage, he hesitates lets the play get behind him then uses his speed to get the tackle. He's got alot of work to do, i just don't see him all of the sudden becoming that LB we need in the Middle or anywhere. Maybe specail teams.

alberta_vike
03-06-2006, 12:10 AM
I think that no matter what we still need somebody else to play weakside linebacker, nobody currently on the roster can play there in my opinion. Getting somebody like Witherspoon or Ayodele ( I think he can play WILL) to play on the weakside, then let Henderson, Harris, Thomas, and Leber (if he gets signed) battle it out for the remaining two spots. That would be my ideal situation. Hopefully with the new coaching staff, the younger guys like Thomas and Henderson can actually stop making the mental errors that they constantly made under Cotrell. There is plenty of talent at the linebacker position on this team, if only they could all get their mental mistakes under control.

PurplePeopleEaters89
03-06-2006, 12:32 AM
"vikingstw" wrote:

Napo was horrible last year, I'm having doubts about wether he'll ever get back on the field as a starter period. Maybe with good coaching he can get it done, we will see.

As far as i'm concerned his major weakness is coverage, not good.



i agree!! Napoleon Harris ended the season as like a 3rd string player!!! I wouldn't want him back starting, let alone playing the leader position on the field!! Lets get Witherspoon and that other guy!!! (name slips my mind)!!!

muchluv4smoot
03-06-2006, 12:36 AM
"vikingstw" wrote:

"PurpleManiac" wrote:

The way our LB corp is..

Newman really isn't starting material. He would be a good LB to rush the passer or as a sub and he probably will stuggle in the new Cover 2 defense.

EJ is our best LB and the only one I'm comfortable starting. I just think he is going to be a beast next season.

Dontarious Thomas is good and very very VERY fast but he's not starting material yet. He still makes alot of mistakes. He is however, our best coverage LB.

Napo is a wildcard. Since Cottrell did not utilize him correctly I'm not to sure if he is good enough to start. I know it was bad enough that he was yanked from starting and his PT went nearly to zero.

Overall our LB was surprisingly solid last year but I will have to agree with Smoot and say we'll need at least 2 new starters there.

Call me crazy but i've watched the film and i think EJ is our best in coverage, he's not great but his coverage skills have imporved alot since his first days with us. He has more batted passes then Donatarius and he has the instints to disect pass/run quickly without taking false steps.

Thomas is horrible, i had really high hopes for the guy but everytime he gets on the field i get that feeling he's a major weakness. He has no instincts and just because he has athleticism doesn't mean he's our best in coverage, he hesitates lets the play get behind him then uses his speed to get the tackle. He's got alot of work to do, i just don't see him all of the sudden becoming that LB we need in the Middle or anywhere. Maybe specail teams.



I wouldn't completely give up on DT yet. I think he has lacked the coaching needed to develope him into the player we expected him to become. He is a very smart kid and has all the tools to be a great LB, he just needs the coaching help and to stop thinking and just start reacting and playing.

He is similar to Willie Offord if you ask me. Offord had all the tools to be a very good saftey and I think last season we finally saw the start of offord getting it and becoming a good safety. I think we now have the coaching needed for faster player development and hopefully that will kick start DT. HOPEFULLY :grin:

NordicNed
03-06-2006, 12:45 AM
"muchluv4smoot" wrote:

"vikingstw" wrote:

"PurpleManiac" wrote:

The way our LB corp is..

Newman really isn't starting material. He would be a good LB to rush the passer or as a sub and he probably will stuggle in the new Cover 2 defense.

EJ is our best LB and the only one I'm comfortable starting. I just think he is going to be a beast next season.

Dontarious Thomas is good and very very VERY fast but he's not starting material yet. He still makes alot of mistakes. He is however, our best coverage LB.

Napo is a wildcard. Since Cottrell did not utilize him correctly I'm not to sure if he is good enough to start. I know it was bad enough that he was yanked from starting and his PT went nearly to zero.

Overall our LB was surprisingly solid last year but I will have to agree with Smoot and say we'll need at least 2 new starters there.

Call me crazy but i've watched the film and i think EJ is our best in coverage, he's not great but his coverage skills have imporved alot since his first days with us. He has more batted passes then Donatarius and he has the instints to disect pass/run quickly without taking false steps.

Thomas is horrible, i had really high hopes for the guy but everytime he gets on the field i get that feeling he's a major weakness. He has no instincts and just because he has athleticism doesn't mean he's our best in coverage, he hesitates lets the play get behind him then uses his speed to get the tackle. He's got alot of work to do, i just don't see him all of the sudden becoming that LB we need in the Middle or anywhere. Maybe specail teams.



I wouldn't completely give up on DT yet. I think he has lacked the coaching needed to develope him into the player we expected him to become. He is a very smart kid and has all the tools to be a great LB, he just needs the coaching help and to stop thinking and just start reacting and playing.

He is similar to Willie Offord if you ask me. Offord had all the tools to be a very good saftey and I think last season we finally saw the start of offord getting it and becoming a good safety. I think we now have the coaching needed for faster player development and hopefully that will kick start DT. HOPEFULLY :grin:


muchluv4smoot,
Just think about what your saying, if it is the problem and if it does only get better, imagine how nasty our D will be this year....

OH MAN>>>>>

Ltrey33
03-06-2006, 01:14 AM
"muchluv4smoot" wrote:

"vikingstw" wrote:

"PurpleManiac" wrote:

The way our LB corp is..

Newman really isn't starting material. He would be a good LB to rush the passer or as a sub and he probably will stuggle in the new Cover 2 defense.

EJ is our best LB and the only one I'm comfortable starting. I just think he is going to be a beast next season.

Dontarious Thomas is good and very very VERY fast but he's not starting material yet. He still makes alot of mistakes. He is however, our best coverage LB.

Napo is a wildcard. Since Cottrell did not utilize him correctly I'm not to sure if he is good enough to start. I know it was bad enough that he was yanked from starting and his PT went nearly to zero.

Overall our LB was surprisingly solid last year but I will have to agree with Smoot and say we'll need at least 2 new starters there.

Call me crazy but i've watched the film and i think EJ is our best in coverage, he's not great but his coverage skills have imporved alot since his first days with us. He has more batted passes then Donatarius and he has the instints to disect pass/run quickly without taking false steps.

Thomas is horrible, i had really high hopes for the guy but everytime he gets on the field i get that feeling he's a major weakness. He has no instincts and just because he has athleticism doesn't mean he's our best in coverage, he hesitates lets the play get behind him then uses his speed to get the tackle. He's got alot of work to do, i just don't see him all of the sudden becoming that LB we need in the Middle or anywhere. Maybe specail teams.



I wouldn't completely give up on DT yet. I think he has lacked the coaching needed to develope him into the player we expected him to become. He is a very smart kid and has all the tools to be a great LB, he just needs the coaching help and to stop thinking and just start reacting and playing.

He is similar to Willie Offord if you ask me. Offord had all the tools to be a very good saftey and I think last season we finally saw the start of offord getting it and becoming a good safety. I think we now have the coaching needed for faster player development and hopefully that will kick start DT. HOPEFULLY :grin:

I agree Muchluv.

ItalianStallion
03-06-2006, 01:40 AM
Hehe, Muchluv wern't you the one who predicted DT to be better than DJ Williams ? :P

muchluv4smoot
03-06-2006, 05:44 AM
"ItalianStallion" wrote:

Hehe, Muchluv wern't you the one who predicted DT to be better than DJ Williams ? :P


Nah, that was some idiot with the name muchluv4moss. :lol:

Ltrey33
03-06-2006, 05:55 AM
"muchluv4smoot" wrote:

"ItalianStallion" wrote:

Hehe, Muchluv wern't you the one who predicted DT to be better than DJ Williams ? :P


Nah, that was some idiot with the name muchluv4moss. :lol:

Yeah...glad that guy isn't around here anymore. :wink:

muchluv4smoot
03-06-2006, 06:01 AM
"ltrey33" wrote:

"muchluv4smoot" wrote:

"ItalianStallion" wrote:

Hehe, Muchluv wern't you the one who predicted DT to be better than DJ Williams ? :P


Nah, that was some idiot with the name muchluv4moss. :lol:

Yeah...glad that guy isn't around here anymore. :wink:

Even though he was the most intelligent poster on here, besides myself, it's nice that he is gone, with his screename so close to mine and all. :lol:

DaunteHOF
03-06-2006, 08:15 AM
put EJ back at ILB in a good defensive scheme

aceclown
03-06-2006, 08:20 AM
"DaunteHOF" wrote:

put EJ back at ILB in a good defensive scheme

EJ was one of the worst MLBs the vikings have ever had. He blew more gap assignments and coverages in one game than most good MLBs miss in a season.

mackd10
03-06-2006, 08:21 AM
We need to covert N-Harris to a DE, just like Sim-Rice in Tampa.People forget he was drafted as a OLB out of Illinois.

alberta_vike
03-06-2006, 08:34 AM
I think that all of these guys have the talent to succeed. Wait and see what they do now that they have a competent ( hopefully ) defensive coordinator giving them orders. Personally, I believe that Henderson and Thomas are going to be much improved this season, due to the improvement in coaching they are going to receive.

collegeguyjeff
03-06-2006, 08:41 AM
i don't care who our linebackers are as long as they are better than they were last year.