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COJOMAY
01-08-2006, 03:23 AM
by Jim Souhan, Star Tribune

We know about Brad Childress because of his work with a certain quarterback. We may judge him on his work with another.

What we know about new Vikings coach Brad Childress is that he didn't play college football, but did help a slumbering Wisconsin program reach the Rose Bowl.

He didn't hold play-calling responsibilities in Philadelphia, but did take over those duties on occasion.

He hasn't ever been a head coach, but he has earned the respect and admiration of many of the players and coaches with whom he worked.

He hasn't won a Super Bowl, but did coach in one.

Like most promising coaches, his résumé is a mysterious amalgam of intriguing accomplishment and eye-catching white space.

But what probably got him the job was this:

He helped build the former Pro Bowl quarterback that is Donovan McNabb.

The Vikings need someone to rebuild the former Pro Bowl quarterback that is Daunte Culpepper.

In fact, now that Childress is in place, Culpepper's rehabilitation as a player, team leader and public figure will be the most intriguing aspect of the Vikings' offseason.

Culpepper had me fooled. It will be interesting to see what Childress thinks of him, once he meets him, and the way Culpepper is avoiding all things purple these days, who knows when that will be?

At this time last year, I was referring to Culpepper as a mature team leader. At the end of the preseason, I was calling him a potential NFL MVP.

Back then, Culpepper said the game had "slowed down" for him, as if he were a Jedi Knight.

I was wrong. He was wrong. The Vikings were wrong about him.

Now his career highlights look like the work of a special effects studio, and his career, should he rebound, will be remindful of The Terminator, when the gleaming skeleton crawled out of the burning wreckage.

Let's visit four corners of Culpepper's football world:

1) On the field: He played as if he had never seen a pass rusher before during the first seven weeks of the season, while a promising Vikings team started 2-5. To offer the ultimate insult, Culpepper was almost Favre-like.

2) In the trainer's room: Culpepper had his knee shredded in Game 7, leaving a 260-pound quarterback with a year's worth of rehab work and doubts that a rebuilt knee will effectively carry such mass.

3) In the locker room: He lost credibility with some teammates this season, and had a spat with center Matt Birk after the boat scandal broke.

4) In the public eye: He has pleaded not guilty to charges stemming from the boat scandal. Even if he wins the case, he has far to go to reestablish his local image as an all-around nice guy.

A year ago, Culpepper was the franchise player. Today, he's the franchise problem.

That's what makes the hiring of Childress so interesting. Vikings owner Zygi Wilf has promised to pay Culpepper's roster bonus of $6 million in March.

That indicates the Vikings plan to reinstall him as the starter. But if the Culpepper we saw this year is the real Culpepper, the Vikings should do everything they can to rehab his image and knee, then trade him.

Wilf's stated goal is to win a Super Bowl. If Culpepper is going to wilt when asked to carry the team, then he'll never get Wilf there.

A bizarre group of quarterbacks has reached the Super Bowl in recent years, from Jake Delhomme to Trent Dilfer to Kerry Collins. Exceptional talent is no longer a requirement. Toughness and game management appear to be more prominent common denominators than passing precision.

Ask me today, and I'll take Brad Johnson as my 2006 Vikings quarterback.

The notion that he would be fragile at the age of 37 was proved wrong. He willingly withstood hits in the pocket, and looks stronger and healthier than he was in his younger days in purple.

He is superior to Culpepper in these aspects: Résumé (Johnson has won a Super Bowl), leadership, game management and locker room presence.

Culpepper might return to the field as a shell of his former self, in terms of image and talent.

If Childress can resurrect Culpepper's career, it will be the coach who deserves a generous bonus, the coach who will have proved himself worthy of comparison to mystical science fiction figures.

Ltrey33
01-08-2006, 03:31 AM
We can rebuild him....nananananana

Prophet
01-08-2006, 03:56 AM
If Daunte buys into Childress and gets the fire in him he will come back strong. He will have to work hard to be the field general under Childress. Childress had McNabb studying playbooks in the limo on the way to his first mini-camp. I'm sure he will have someone working with Cpep's mental preparations as he is rehabilitating his knee this offseason. Wait 'til Childress tells him, "Daunte, I am your Father" PPPPPPHHHHHH SSHEEEEEEE PPPPPPHHHHHH SSHEEEEEEE.

RK.
01-08-2006, 04:21 AM
"ltrey33" wrote:

We can rebuild him....nananananana
Yes with the 6 million bonus I guess that makes him the 6 million dollar man LOL Stronger....faster....able to leap buildings in a single bound. :lol:

cajunvike
01-08-2006, 04:42 AM
Daunte will be the NEW Six-Million Dollar Man!

http://www.tv-timewarp.co.uk/six_million_dollar_man/Six_Million_Dollar_Man.wav

Prophet
01-08-2006, 04:46 AM
"cajunvike" wrote:

Daunte will be the NEW Six-Million Dollar Man!

http://www.tv-timewarp.co.uk/six_million_dollar_man/Six_Million_Dollar_Man.wav

Man, I haven't heard that in a long time. Funny stuff....we can rebuild him.

V-Unit
01-08-2006, 09:31 AM
1. Culpepper was playing in a broken offense run by a coordinator that was way over his head
2. Culpepper can afford to slim up a bit because of the knee and still be just as effective.
3. Credibility will be easily restored when he leads the team to a few wins.
4. The boat scandal was a simple mistake and out of character for Culpepper.

Any competent Offensive coordinator is going to put Culpepper in a system that works and maximizes his strengths. Culpepper is going to return to the Pro Bowl next year, and win the Comeback player of the year when he does. I guarantee it.

cajunvike
01-08-2006, 09:34 AM
"V-Unit" wrote:

1. Culpepper was playing in a broken offense run by a coordinator that was way over his head
2. Culpepper can afford to slim up a bit because of the knee and still be just as effective.
3. Credibility will be easily restored when he leads the team to a few wins.
4. The boat scandal was a simple mistake and out of character for Culpepper.

Any competent Offensive coordinator is going to put Culpepper in a system that works and maximizes his strengths. Culpepper is going to return to the Pro Bowl next year, and win the Comeback player of the year when he does. I guarantee it.

I will hold you to that guarantee...and hope that you are 100% correct, V-Unit!!! :grin:

Muggsy
01-08-2006, 10:23 AM
It's just a rumor, and an old one, but I just saw dis on ESPN insider:
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Cards after Culpepper?
<Jan. 3> Pro Football Weekly is hearing that the Cardinals are interested in QB Daunte Culpepper, but would consider a trade only if the Vikings' asking price is reasonable. The Cardinals won't overpay for any player, especially one coming off a serious knee injury.

magicci
01-08-2006, 10:39 AM
3 first round picks and fitzgerald and or boldin

nogathomasmillarddoleman
01-08-2006, 07:04 PM
I was very disappointed when I heard Culpepper will be back as the "Franchise" QB next year. I don't imagine us ever winning with him. He played like a high school QB when he had to face adversity without Moss to lean on and no more single coverage. His play was awful and he did not play smart; throwing the ball up for grabs or taking huge sacks instead of throwing it away. Even when Moss was here and the offense was potent, you just get the feeling that Culpepper was gonna put it on the ground or do something dumb eventually. I never got that feeling with Brad.
Very dissapointed indeed. Oh well, go Vikes.

jackyl
01-08-2006, 07:15 PM
"magicci" wrote:

3 first round picks and fitzgerald and or boldin

Never in a million years would you get that for Pep. His stock is worth a player and a 4th.... MAYBE a 3rd, but i doubt it.

IL-Vike
01-08-2006, 09:26 PM
A year ago, Culpepper was the franchise player. Today, he's the franchise problem.

But if the Culpepper we saw this year is the real Culpepper, the Vikings should do everything they can to rehab his image and knee, then trade him.

I couldn't agree more.

NodakPaul
01-08-2006, 09:34 PM
"nogathomasmillarddoleman" wrote:

His play was awful and he did not play smart; throwing the ball up for grabs or taking huge sacks instead of throwing it away.

So what did you want him to do when the O-Line broke down? You don't want him to keep the ball and take the sack... yet you don't want him to throw it away. Yes, his play was awful, but bad coaching decisions and a Birk-less O line need to take some of the blame.

"nogathomasmillarddoleman" wrote:

Even when Moss was here and the offense was potent, you just get the feeling that Culpepper was gonna put it on the ground or do something dumb eventually.

Really? I dindnt get that feeling much last year. Oh wait - we had a great OC and a solid line last year. hmmmmmmm.

I think keeping Dante as the starting QB is the best move we could make. It isn't a knock against Brad, who we know can still play, but IMHO Dante is still one of the best QBs out there.

RK.
01-08-2006, 10:01 PM
If Pep does not learn to quick read a defense and execute a 3 step drop and shoot he will not be playing here. You have to be able to do both to play in a west coast offense. As yet I have never seen Pep be able to do that.

Tanner_QBRB8
01-08-2006, 10:11 PM
IF we dont keep pep THen who will replace him answer me that

nogathomasmillarddoleman
01-08-2006, 10:12 PM
So what did you want him to do when the O-Line broke down? You don't want him to keep the ball and take the sack... yet you don't want him to throw it away. Yes, his play was awful, but bad coaching decisions and a Birk-less O line need to take some of the blame.

I said "instead" of throwing it away meaning he should be throwing it away.


Really? I dindnt get that feeling much last year. Oh wait - we had a great OC and a solid line last year. hmmmmmmm.

I think keeping Dante as the starting QB is the best move we could make. It isn't a knock against Brad, who we know can still play, but IMHO Dante is still one of the best QBs out there.[/quote]

There's not a QB in the league that wouldn't be a potential Pro Bowl candidate playing in that offense. It's when adversity sets in which separates the the QB's with all the "tools" from the ones that don't necessarily have the proto-type size, arm, etc., but smarts and game savvy. I think we know which of the 2 give us the best chance to WIN.

vikings11_27
01-08-2006, 10:14 PM
What I don't get is how he didn't improve from week to week last season. I don't know that he can change that much.

Webby
01-08-2006, 11:21 PM
test

SamDawg84
01-08-2006, 11:50 PM
look at wat he did with donovan

magicci
01-08-2006, 11:56 PM
but the problem is dauntes knee.

Vikesfan4evr
01-09-2006, 12:20 AM
"RK." wrote:

If Pep does not learn to quick read a defense and execute a 3 step drop and shoot he will not be playing here. You have to be able to do both to play in a west coast offense. As yet I have never seen Pep be able to do that.

Thats 100% correct right there. Also to add to that Cpep will not recover from that major knee injury and be worth a hoot. IMO Cpep will be real nervous on that bumb knee and you will see the fumbleitis return to his game. Now I really hope my prediction is wrong as when Cpep is on he's alot of fun to watch but that knee really troubles me, after I tore mine it took a long time to have any type of confidence in it and to this day is not 100% maybe 75% at best and that has been 10 years ago. I however am not a pro athlete with pro Docs and trainers but will be amazed if he recovers and will eat crow publicly if I am wrong...

V4L
01-09-2006, 12:22 AM
Pep will strive under Chilldress's wing.. Childress has made it work with alot of QB's.. When Donovan went down and they were down to Mcmahon playing with backups he still did pretty good..

Pep will learn that he needs to get rid of the ball or take off with it..

I noticed that he was playing quite well after the first two games.. He was getting into the swing of not playing with Moss for the first time in his career

whiteboy
01-09-2006, 12:36 AM
"V-Unit" wrote:

1. Culpepper was playing in a broken offense run by a coordinator that was way over his head
2. Culpepper can afford to slim up a bit because of the knee and still be just as effective.
3. Credibility will be easily restored when he leads the team to a few wins.
4. The boat scandal was a simple mistake and out of character for Culpepper.

Any competent Offensive coordinator is going to put Culpepper in a system that works and maximizes his strengths. Culpepper is going to return to the Pro Bowl next year, and win the Comeback player of the year when he does. I guarantee it.

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