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mnjamie
11-08-2005, 03:58 PM
POSTED 8:53 p.m. EST, November 7, 2005
ProFootballTalk
Mike Florio


SABAN THROWING SCOTT UNDER THE BUS?

He's sorely missed in Minnesota. Now there's a chance they'll be able to bring him back after the season.

Word out of South Florida is that Dolphins coach Nick Saban could fire offensive coordinator Scott Linehan after only one season with the Dolphins.

The Fins are 22nd in the league in average yards per game, but the bigger problem might be Linehan's offseason endorsement of former Vikings backup Gus Frerotte. Frerotte has been so-so at best as the starter.

We're not saying that a termination is coming or that a decision has been made. All we're saying is that there are rumblings that Saban will make Linehan the scapegoat for the team's performance in 2005.



http://www.profootballtalk.com/rumormill.htm

ultravikingfan
11-08-2005, 04:00 PM
Lets get him!

But, if we get a new coach he will want to bring in his own guys.

mnjamie
11-08-2005, 04:03 PM
"ultravikingfan" wrote:

Lets get him!

But, if we get a new coach he will want to bring in his own guys.


To a certain degree, is that a bad thing?? Everything considered this season......

If he wants to drop Rosey, I'm fine with it. Not to mention a few other pieces of "dead weight" currently on the roster.

Jviking
11-08-2005, 04:34 PM
I would be glad to see him back. We will have to wait and see what zygi will do.

WBLVikeBabe
11-08-2005, 04:37 PM
I wouldn't mind seeing Linehan back. It'll be interesting to see what comes of it.

PurplePackerEater
11-08-2005, 04:41 PM
Don't want him. No way.

He's another that can't perform without Moss.

Bye, bye.

WBLVikeBabe
11-08-2005, 04:45 PM
"PurplePackerEater" wrote:

Don't want him. No way.

He's another that can't perform without Moss.

Bye, bye.

:roll:

ultravikingfan
11-08-2005, 04:46 PM
Nobody can perform without Moss I guess.

Del Rio
11-08-2005, 04:54 PM
I was having problems performing.

I called up Randy Moss and now my marrige is wonderful.

THANK YOU RANDY MOSS!!

Lotza
11-08-2005, 05:00 PM
lets get him!!!!!!

VikingFanEric
11-08-2005, 05:00 PM
I'd love for Linehan to come back as offensive coordinator. Get Loney out of here. What are the chances if Brian Billick is fired that he would come back and run the offense?

ultravikingfan
11-08-2005, 05:00 PM
"Lotzapurple119" wrote:

lets get him!!!!!!

Who? Randy?

Then all of our problems will be solved! :lol:

Lotza
11-08-2005, 05:01 PM
no linehan

Top_Speed
11-08-2005, 05:09 PM
Not really sure of his 1 year departure in Miami, I heard he's back there next year? If not, it is hard to go back in time and get a guy who flew out of the nest once already.

Valhalladeath
11-08-2005, 05:11 PM
I was actually happy when Linehan left, so I definitely don't want him back. I agree that we still need a good offensive coordinator, but Scottie boy isn't it--and I definitely don't want to see him as head coach.

Vikes
11-08-2005, 05:19 PM
Move on.....

TheKnuck
11-08-2005, 06:08 PM
You can wish in one hand and crap in the other........

GreenBaySlackers
11-08-2005, 06:32 PM
I wouldn't be agaisnt getting linehan back, but i'd rather have some of the names thrown around in the countless "who do we get went Tice gets his ass handed to him" threads.

Big C
11-08-2005, 06:46 PM
Linehan made this offense one of the top 5 while he was with us. That says a lot. However, in 2004, he also made some really, really REALLY bad play calls. If he stops those bone headed calls though I wouldn't be opposed to getting him back (compared to who we have now).

I admit, I was a Linehan hater and was calling for his head because of about 3% of the calls he made during his career here. I miss him now.

bleedpurple27
11-08-2005, 06:54 PM
Linehan,Billick...I guess I would rather see some fresh faces around here for a change. Somebody that will come in and call a dog a dog, with no special treatment for certain players....Linehan and Billick are both decent coaches but I think/wish, we would just start over and quit trying to bring back a familair face just because we would be "comfortable" with what we know......the fear of change I guess.

RK.
11-08-2005, 07:11 PM
Why don't we actually try and hire someone who is having a successful season somewhere for a change. :smile: Everyone is talking about cleaning house. Bringing Linehan back is not cleaning house. :roll:

V4L
11-08-2005, 07:40 PM
Linehan is definitley better then Loney.. Let's get him

RK.
11-08-2005, 07:52 PM
"Vikez4Lyfe" wrote:

Linehan is definitley better then Loney.. Let's get him
The high school coach in my town is better than Loney (undefeated season). Lets get him. :razz: Being better than Loney is not a qualification. :roll:

Del Rio
11-08-2005, 07:57 PM
This sums up my feelings right here.



http://vikings4ever.ytmnd.com/

shockzilla
11-08-2005, 08:02 PM
"Top_Speed" wrote:

If not, it is hard to go back in time and get a guy who flew out of the nest once already.

And what about Brad Johnson?

stjmnsota
11-08-2005, 08:42 PM
Biggest mistakes the Vikings organization has ever made. 1. Letting Tony Dunge go. 2. Letting Brain Bilick go.

What is so great about Linnehan? I say, can the staff and go after either a defensive minded coach then bring in a good offensive coordiator or bring in a guy like Bilick.

Who is really out there and available? Loney definately isn't the answer.

I shouldn't trash the coaching so much, the Vikes have had a lot of chaos over the past few years.

I need to add that If the Vikes would actually get a REAL QB, Loney may not look so bad. Brad looked good. We will see how he does this week. I will put my money on Brad before Culpepper. GO BRAD!

cajunvike
11-08-2005, 08:48 PM
"Big C" wrote:

Linehan made this offense one of the top 5 while he was with us. That says a lot. However, in 2004, he also made some really, really REALLY bad play calls. If he stops those bone headed calls though I wouldn't be opposed to getting him back (compared to who we have now).

I admit, I was a Linehan hater and was calling for his head because of about 3% of the calls he made during his career here. I miss him now.

Let's give credit where credit is due...MOSS made this offense one of the top 5...not Linehan! Look at how great Billick is now that he doesn't have Moss to fuel his offense...NOT!!!

Time for some fresh blood...find a WINNER to come in and take over...someone like Marvin Lewis, who went into perennial dog Cincinnati and turned them into beasts...and they will only get better in the next few years!

mnvikes61
11-08-2005, 09:10 PM
"cajunvike" wrote:

"Big C" wrote:

Linehan made this offense one of the top 5 while he was with us. That says a lot. However, in 2004, he also made some really, really REALLY bad play calls. If he stops those bone headed calls though I wouldn't be opposed to getting him back (compared to who we have now).

I admit, I was a Linehan hater and was calling for his head because of about 3% of the calls he made during his career here. I miss him now.

Let's give credit where credit is due...MOSS made this offense one of the top 5...not Linehan! Look at how great Billick is now that he doesn't have Moss to fuel his offense...NOT!!!

Time for some fresh blood...find a WINNER to come in and take over...someone like Marvin Lewis, who went into perennial dog Cincinnati and turned them into beasts...and they will only get better in the next few years!
you can't make that agrument with Billick he never has had a good QB. i can't remeber one decent QB to go thru there. so i wouldn't knock Billick as an offensive mind

Freya
11-08-2005, 09:46 PM
I would prefer not.

PAvikesfan
11-08-2005, 09:51 PM
I don't like linehan... i was happy he was gone. but the alternative is overall games, bad offensive production. with him we were spectacular. but i don't think he is the right man to get us back. we need a new coaching staff. .

i would prefer someone who doesn't take any crap from the players and will use the run more than the pass. a defensive minded coach would be a plus.

ultravikingfan
11-08-2005, 10:49 PM
"stjmnsota" wrote:

Biggest mistakes the Vikings organization has ever made. 1. Letting Tony Dunge go. 2. Letting Brain Bilick go.

Nope.

Herschal trade tops those.

What other choices did we have but to promote them to head coach? They were not going to stay coordinators forever.

Who knew they would be so successful as head coaches? Plenty have made the jump and fell flat on their face.

Ltrey33
11-08-2005, 11:05 PM
"WBLVikeBabe" wrote:

"PurplePackerEater" wrote:

Don't want him. No way.

He's another that can't perform without Moss.

Bye, bye.

:roll:

:roll: :roll:

I still think there will be someone better than Linehan to get after this season as a head coach. I was always critical of him as the OC, and as a head coach I don't see how it could be any better. Maybe I'm wrong though....he's better than what we've got now at least!

cajunvike
11-08-2005, 11:08 PM
Too bad we couldn't have kept Dungy!!!

midgensa
11-08-2005, 11:38 PM
Hey bottom line is people earn their stripes sometime. I think that Linehan is a pretty good choice for a head coach that has not been a head coach yet.
On the other hand I would like some defensive minds getting together here. Someone called Billick a defensive mind earlier - that is just silly. I have heard a lot of people saying the want a defensive minded coach but then slam Jeff Fisher, who will be the best defensive mind on the market in the offseason.
In no particular order, the names I have heard that I would be very interested in are Fisher, Martz (who will definitely be available), Linehan and Ferentz. I think any of these would make decent coaches but obviously there is a lot of differences in all of them.
It is a shame that Dungy is out the door and I am pretty sure Billick will not be available unless he walks ... and god I don't want Fassel like some have rumored.

NordicNed
11-08-2005, 11:42 PM
Hey Del,

I was having trouble performing also, then I called Mark Martin, and he hooked me up with some free Viagra.....


Hey, where's the package?....it never came Del..?

cajunvike
11-08-2005, 11:46 PM
"midgensa" wrote:

Hey bottom line is people earn their stripes sometime. I think that Linehan is a pretty good choice for a head coach that has not been a head coach yet.
On the other hand I would like some defensive minds getting together here. Someone called Billick a defensive mind earlier - that is just silly. I have heard a lot of people saying the want a defensive minded coach but then slam Jeff Fisher, who will be the best defensive mind on the market in the offseason.
In no particular order, the names I have heard that I would be very interested in are Fisher, Martz (who will definitely be available), Linehan and Ferentz. I think any of these would make decent coaches but obviously there is a lot of differences in all of them.
It is a shame that Dungy is out the door and I am pretty sure Billick will not be available unless he walks ... and god I don't want Fassel like some have rumored.

I would take Fisher in a heartbeat!!!

Eyedea
11-08-2005, 11:55 PM
Del, that site almost made my eyes tear up...

anyway to the present, parts of want him back but others not. He did have a great relationship with culpepper, and is one reason he is the qb he is today. people say moss was a 'secerity blanket' for him, but so was linahan. other parts of me say he shouldnt come back. first, although he could put a game plan together (something this team still hasnt really done), his play calling can be suspect at times. Also, if we do compleatly clean house (which i think we should), it may be wise to bring in brand new coachs.

anyway i do think he is a good coach and should get an oppertunity to bring up a young qb, as he did with culpepper

collegeguyjeff
11-09-2005, 01:53 AM
Fno

enlvikeman
11-09-2005, 02:34 AM
Jim Fassel will be our next head coach people! Book it, write it down, it's gonna happen. I'm not saying this is what I want but the ties to Zygi's family, and the fact that he is a proven winner will get him here.

GreenBaySlackers
11-09-2005, 02:35 AM
"enlvikeman" wrote:

Jim Fassel will be our next head coach people! Book it, write it down, it's gonna happen. I'm not saying this is what I want but the ties to Zygi's family, and the fact that he is a proven winner will get him here.

can we mark your words on that? :lol:

enlvikeman
11-09-2005, 02:45 AM
yes

FuadFan
11-09-2005, 03:08 AM
I've heard that Fassel is not even an option to be promoted up for the Ravens job if Billick is fired so we should not get him or Martz the Rams are doing better without him I would rather see Linehan back over those two.

midgensa
11-09-2005, 03:33 AM
"FuadFan" wrote:

I've heard that Fassel is not even an option to be promoted up for the Ravens job if Billick is fired so we should not get him or Martz the Rams are doing better without him I would rather see Linehan back over those two.

The Rams are doing better without Martz? I dont know about that, they have won a couple of games at home against worse teams ... Martz has gone to a Super Bowl and also was the brains behind the offense that won a Super Bowl, his coaching record speaks for itself ... he wins and wins often ... not saying he is not smug and a little hard-headed at times, but the man puts up W's

FuadFan
11-09-2005, 03:38 AM
"midgensa" wrote:

"FuadFan" wrote:

I've heard that Fassel is not even an option to be promoted up for the Ravens job if Billick is fired so we should not get him or Martz the Rams are doing better without him I would rather see Linehan back over those two.

The Rams are doing better without Martz? I dont know about that, they have won a couple of games at home against worse teams ... Martz has gone to a Super Bowl and also was the brains behind the offense that won a Super Bowl, his coaching record speaks for itself ... he wins and wins often ... not saying he is not smug and a little hard-headed at times, but the man puts up W'sBut they beat those teams without Bulger, Holt, or Bruce in the game and Vitt did what he needed to do to win what we ourselves did to beat the Lions he comitted to running the ball if Martz had done that in some of the eariler games they would be much better then they are now.

singersp
11-09-2005, 03:42 AM
"VikingNed" wrote:

Hey Del,

I was having trouble performing also, then I called Mark Martin, and he hooked me up with some free Viagra.....


Hey, where's the package?....it never came Del..?

Ditto that Ned!

"Del Rio" wrote:

Ned, Singer: Packages, wrapped stamped and awaiting drop off at the mail box. Swear to god they are on their way

ajefx
11-09-2005, 04:00 AM
"mnvikes61" wrote:

you can't make that agrument with Billick he never has had a good QB. i can't remeber one decent QB to go thru there. so i wouldn't knock Billick as an offensive mind
But he CHOSE Grbac, he CHOSE Boller, he CHOSE Anthony Wright...

Back on topic, does anyone else remember how bad of a coordinator Linehan was here? Am I the only one that thought our offense was held back last year by bad playcalling too many times? Yeah, we had top offenses under him - but we also had great talent. I never felt Linehan was the cause of our offensive success, and I do not want him back at all.

donjen95
11-09-2005, 04:05 AM
IF BILLICK IS FIRED HE SHOULD COME AND RUN THE TEAM, NOT JUST THE OFFENSE!

singersp
11-09-2005, 04:14 AM
"donjen95" wrote:

IF BILLICK IS FIRED HE SHOULD COME AND RUN THE TEAM, NOT JUST THE OFFENSE!

Why would we wanta guy who is fired?

Aren't they fired for a reason?

magicci
11-09-2005, 06:25 AM
i thought u guys didnt want linehan now that he's gone look who wants him back.

Muggsy
11-09-2005, 06:55 PM
singersp wrote:

Why would we wanta guy who is fired?

Aren't they fired for a reason?

Thank you.

Let's not get someone else's loser throwaway.

Rookie444
11-09-2005, 07:03 PM
"ajefx" wrote:

"mnvikes61" wrote:

you can't make that agrument with Billick he never has had a good QB. i can't remeber one decent QB to go thru there. so i wouldn't knock Billick as an offensive mind
But he CHOSE Grbac, he CHOSE Boller, he CHOSE Anthony Wright...

Back on topic, does anyone else remember how bad of a coordinator Linehan was here? Am I the only one that thought our offense was held back last year by bad playcalling too many times? Yeah, we had top offenses under him - but we also had great talent. I never felt Linehan was the cause of our offensive success, and I do not want him back at all.


in college these qb's you are referencing (Grbac, Boller, etc.) were rated high in college or were the next best they could pick from. no one knows how the drafts will react to the speed, tempo, and physicalness of the NFL. James was rated really high (hence the reason we picked him up) now he isn't having as great a season as say Demarcus Ware". when you draft you are hoping that they adapt well. no matter how indepth the qb coach is, it falls on the rookie themselves. all bout self-esteem and confidence. i believe almost any coach would be better than tice. tice is too easy and laid back. we need a coach that doesn't take crap and puts his foot down. its a little late for tice to start that now. also, you need a good staff (asst hc, offensive coordinator). billick may help however i dont know much about him and his styles. but back to your comment about grbac and boller, its all a guessing game once they get drafted. fason was drafted in the 4th????? round? and he digs for those inches. an inch is a mile in football and being a 4th round pick (i think) he is doing better than some of our 1st and 3rd round picks. its all about how the rookies ADAPT.

spdolphs
11-09-2005, 07:41 PM
"ultravikingfan" wrote:

Nobody can perform without Moss I guess.

No problem...Scott Linehan as Head Coach, T.O. instead of Moss, and any quarterback that can throw within 5 yards of Owens. Back to old times. 15-1 and no superbowl......

Del Rio
11-09-2005, 07:54 PM
"singersp" wrote:

"VikingNed" wrote:

Hey Del,

I was having trouble performing also, then I called Mark Martin, and he hooked me up with some free Viagra.....


Hey, where's the package?....it never came Del..?

Ditto that Ned!

"Del Rio" wrote:

Ned, Singer: Packages, wrapped stamped and awaiting drop off at the mail box. Swear to god they are on their way

On package was returned to me because of something very embarassing that I should not admit to.

I put my own address on it. So it went the rounds and came back to me, I was pretty excited I was getting a package too until I found out it was one I sent myself. The other package got modified because the key I had for it is gone. So now instead of photoshop 5, you guys get photoshop cs2. I have 5 CD's that teach you all of the basics that I have burned.

Add that to the fact that I came home from hunting to find my pregnant wife in need of a trip to the hospital, and midterms, and planning a trip to vegas............

Needless to say the packages are sitting on my desk one contains photoshop elements + a book and photoshop CS2 with 5 CD ROM instruction videos. 2 Disks of Photoshop CS2 Plugins and a gerbal

The other contains
Photoshop CS2, the CD Roms, CS2 Plugins, anthrax.

I just paid 425$ for hunts that I am not going to be able to go on. 1500$ on my camaro, the wife spent 400$ on a hand carved log bed for my son WTF!! :shock: And she bought a bird............... SO I'm waiting until payday to mail that ish.

At this point I don't even care if you want it or not, because you are getting it. I had the wife double check the addresses and regardless of how you feel about the situation they are getting sent, if you do get em and you dont want them just throw it away, because if I see a CS2 disk anytime soon I will be forced to gouge my eyes out.

StillPurple
11-09-2005, 09:07 PM
Great, all we need is Linehan back: gadget plays and receivers throwing to other receivers in the red zone. Remember last year vs. Seattle ? That option pass from Moss ?

Please, don't bring back Linehan...

V4L
11-09-2005, 09:09 PM
If we can dump Loney and pick up Linehan im cool with that.. Or get a better head coach and put Tice at O.C..

magicci
11-10-2005, 01:23 AM
"OldManVike" wrote:

singersp wrote:

Why would we wanta guy who is fired?

Aren't they fired for a reason?

Thank you.

Let's not get someone else's loser throwaway.
why not Billechick was the browns throwaway and look at him now? And Billick is a great O-co and a good coach. But even if we do get a new coach i do not want mike tice to leave. I would really like it if he stayed as O-co

Wiggles67
11-11-2005, 07:29 PM
First of all, on Kirk Ferentz there is no way he will be leaving Iowa. The media was the one that threw his name around as a potential head coach option in the NFL. I live in Iowa and every article I have ever seen on this subject has basically said he has no desire to coach in the NFL and he is very committed to Iowa right now.



singersp wrote:

Why would we wanta guy who is fired?

Aren't they fired for a reason?

Thank you.

Let's not get someone else's loser throwaway.


The coaches have quickly became the scapgoat in the NFL for lack of performance. There have been a lot of coaches fired for not "living up to expectations" so even when there are injuries, players not performing, or players not developing the coaches have been the brunt of the blame. Just look at the T-Wolves last year...one of the dumbest decisions that orgainization has made :???:

CulpepperViking16
11-11-2005, 08:16 PM
"StillPurple" wrote:

Great, all we need is Linehan back: gadget plays and receivers throwing to other receivers in the red zone. Remember last year vs. Seattle ? That option pass from Moss ?

Please, don't bring back Linehan...

I'm not too big into Linehan's history, and he did make some mistakes with the Vikings, but he was definitely better than Looney. There's always other factors in why we're doing bad this year, but I'd take Linehan back if we could. We had top offenses under his belt #1, #2....

singersp
11-11-2005, 11:11 PM
I would rather get some fresh blood in here for that job. Linehans play calling was pretty predictable & the playbook thin.

ItalianStallion
11-11-2005, 11:17 PM
Scott never was much a coordinator, however I believe if we had him this year Culpepper wouldn't have turned so turnover-happy.

PurpleNGold>YellowNGreen
11-11-2005, 11:33 PM
O-line coaches usually aren't too good of offensive cordinators, because in my experiance they seem to make to complex offensive line maneuvers and not complex enough of a running and passing game.

Rookie444
11-11-2005, 11:45 PM
the staff can't be ass bad as what we have already. get rid of looney and move tice to OC. what others coaches may be available?

Mr Anderson
11-11-2005, 11:47 PM
"mnjamie" wrote:

POSTED 8:53 p.m. EST, November 7, 2005
ProFootballTalk
Mike Florio


SABAN THROWING SCOTT UNDER THE BUS?

He's sorely missed in Minnesota. Now there's a chance they'll be able to bring him back after the season.

Word out of South Florida is that Dolphins coach Nick Saban could fire offensive coordinator Scott Linehan after only one season with the Dolphins.

The Fins are 22nd in the league in average yards per game, but the bigger problem might be Linehan's offseason endorsement of former Vikings backup Gus Frerotte. Frerotte has been so-so at best as the starter.

We're not saying that a termination is coming or that a decision has been made. All we're saying is that there are rumblings that Saban will make Linehan the scapegoat for the team's performance in 2005.



http://www.profootballtalk.com/rumormill.htm


BRING HIM BACK BABY!

ChiTownVike
11-11-2005, 11:50 PM
I say definatley bring him back. I think we could have a powerful offense again even without moss