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Vikesfreak81
10-20-2005, 04:55 PM
Updated: Oct. 19, 2005, 10:37 PM ET
Report: Wilf delivers profanity-laced address to VikingsESPN.com news services


Minnesota Vikings owner Zygi Wilf delivered an "intense" profanity-laced address to the team on Friday regarding the now-infamous sex-boat scandal. During the meeting, Wilf threatened to remove players from the roster who were involved in the planning of the party, according to an article in this week's issue of Sports Illustrated.

Allegedly, 17 Vikings players attended a party on two rented cruise ships on Lake Minnetonka the night of Oct. 6. According to cruise staff members, excessive drinking, lewd public sexual acts and other inappropriate behavior took place at the party.

"This ain't the first time Vikings players have been on Lake Minnetonka with some [women]," a former Minnesota player told SI. "I went out there several times with a few other guys and some strippers, when all of us were single, but we would go on a boat that one of the guys owned, so everything happened in private."

"That [expletive]'s been going on every year," another former Viking told the magazine, "and every year it has escalated."

The article also quotes three players from last year's team who claim that, in a late-season meeting, head coach Mike Tice "offered to fight any team member who wanted a piece of him." None of the players were identified.

Neither Tice nor Wolf could be reached for comment about the article.

VKG4LFE
10-20-2005, 05:02 PM
Wow, if we cut 17 players do we get to have an expansion draft?? That would rule!

Del Rio
10-20-2005, 05:31 PM
Wilf denied using any vulgar language in his recent meeting with the players, as reported by the Sports Illustrated.

Viking chaplain Tom Lamphere said he was at meeting and verified that statement. "In fact I complimented Mr. Wilf after the meeting," Lamphere said.

StillPurple
10-20-2005, 06:43 PM
According to what I have read, those allegedly involved in the boat party include:

- Culpepper
- Smoot
- K.Williams


Do you really want them gone off the team ? (I don't). (Remember Chris Carter ? He had a "party reputation" and then straightened himself out).

I also find it interesting that our "What happens in Vegas, stays in Vegas" country is so up in arms about 24-year olds having fun on a boat.

We are hypocrites if we say that... because some of those shouting the loudest about it are the ones doing it themselves, even if noone else knows about it (the biggest puritans in our country are also the biggest purchasers of pornography, and don't kid yourself if you think otherwise). (I don't condone what happened, either, so please don't misunderstand me, what I am trying to say is, if people are themselves jetting off to Vegas to "have fun", please don't criticize 24-year old pro athletes who do the same.)

I am not trying to start a flame war, I just hate hypocrisy.

It is not like our guys got violent. I mean, Urlacher goes into a bar and fights like everyone in the bar on his days off (allegedly), and it takes 4 bouncers to restrain him. Other NFL players beat their girlfriends. Some sell drugs or arrange to have drugs sold.

Our guys blow off some steam on private property, noone is hurt. But we are the moral bottom of the NFL ? I don't buy it.

CynicalVike
10-20-2005, 07:12 PM
[quote="StillPurple"]According to what I have read, those allegedly involved in the boat party include:

- Culpepper
- Smoot
- K.Williams


Do you really want them gone off the team ? ..................quote]

No, I wouldn't want to loose them, but we just might. Zygi will do what he needs to, and that might include cutting some players.

Something was mentioned about this list of players on the morning news this morning on the local Fox network that hadn't dawned on me till they mentioned it. I hate to think it, and don't want to see it, but the "Race" card might be laid on top of this issue. If you go down the list (s) reported, there is not a single white player named on any of the lists that have been posted!

I don't see where THAT should matter in regards to the "cruise", but it sounded as if there are people looking into the question if there are some, as they said.... divisions... on this team.

Del Rio
10-20-2005, 07:39 PM
Generally on any team I have played for the black athletes and white athletes don't "mingle" after work. I am sure there were some white players on the boat.


Also you have to consider the proportions of players anyway. If your team is mostly black, the odds of there being equal numbers of white athletes on the boat is pretty slim.


If Wilf fires anyone over this he would instantly I would personally label him a Jack Ass. Good news for him is he is rich, he owns my favorite football team, and he could probably give a shit what we say :grin:

If he did try to "cut" some players he would probably be catering to the minority of fans who are few in numbers but just bitch a whole lot louder.

COJOMAY
10-20-2005, 08:06 PM
First of all I really like Zygi...He is a man of honor and integrity and I truly believe he wants what's best for Minnesota and for the Vikings.
The trouble is, he has never owned a pro-team before and he can't run it like a college team or Little League. He wants "values" on this team and I think that is commendable, but pro athletes today are, as a friend of mine who works for the Cincinnati Reds said, "a bunch of rich, selfish young men acting like 16 year old kids." It's that way in all pro-sports./
Despite all of Zygi's talk, he will eventually learn that he cannot treat these athletes as anyting but union members who have rights.
This whole situation is unfortunate, to say the least, and Zygi will institute rules and programs that will eventually make everyone proud of the Vikings. But in the meantime he is on a learning curve and I think we need to give him the benefit of some mistakes in judgement or verbage.
I haven't written off the whole season yet (although I may if we lose this week) and I am willing to give Zygi a few mistakes just as we've given the players and coaches MORE than a few mistakes.
In short, I back Zygi 100% and my attitude probably will not change even if he does make some bone-heads moves.

StillPurple
10-20-2005, 08:41 PM
I read this book once called "the Dark Side of the NFL" or something. It was by a lineman who played with Atlanta for a few years. One thing he said was, the life of NFL players is not nearly as wild as people think. The married guys don't party hard, either. He said, there are so many women who are "groupies" and will take advantage of a player, that it really cuts into your night life. I think that is why they wanted prostitutes, probably. The prostitute won't generally sue you or claimed it was "date rape" or something. I remember reading that Jeremy Shockey, who was like 24 and single, was in NY for his first year. In the lockerroom, he was describing all the crazy stuff he did with strippers, limos, etc. All the married guys were gathered around him in the locker room, saying, "ya, and then what happened ?". I think this reinforces the idea that it is the single, young guys who are doing this, not the married guys. I see it less as an issue of black vs. white, and more an issue of age and whether a guy is single. I bet the Vikings do this boat thing so that it is "away from the public". They fly in the "ho's" so that they are not local women and won't sue, and then they try to have a good time, like any 24-year old might do in the U.S. It all blows up.

I personally would not want to lose C-pepper just because he was at a party. Smoot I don't really care about that much, and K.Williams, also. They have to earn that with me as a fan. Mewelde Moore said he was on the boat and say nothing. He said it was boring.

Anyway. I am kind of tired of it. Go Vikes !! Let's take out our frustration on Fav-ray this Sunday !!! :twisted: