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singersp
09-29-2005, 12:47 PM
Injury issues on defense worsen with Udeze news
Kevin Seifert, Star Tribune
September 29, 2005 VIKE0929.NOTES


As they began preparing Wednesday for a game against arguably the NFC's top team, the Vikings were facing the strong possibility of playing without three defensive starters and two important reserves.

Defensive end Kenechi Udeze is the latest addition to the Vikings' expanding injury list. Udeze's left knee, diagnosed Monday with a chondral defect, has been swelling and might also have an injury to the meniscus. He did not practice Wednesday and is listed as questionable on the injury report, but athletic trainer Chuck Barta said after practice that Udeze's status was growing "more doubtful" for Sunday's game against Atlanta.

Rookie Erasmus James probably would start in Udeze's place.

Two other starters, safety Darren Sharper (sprained left knee) and linebacker E.J. Henderson (sprained right ankle), sat out practice and were expected to test their injuries today in practice. Ken Irvin and Dontarrious Thomas, respectively, filled in for Sharper and Henderson.

Meanwhile, pass-rush specialist Lance Johnstone visited Dr. James Andrews in Birmingham, Ala., for a second opinion on what has been diagnosed as a partially torn right pectoral muscle. According to Barta, Andrews concurred that Johnstone will not need surgery.

Johnstone could practice today but is listed as doubtful on the injury report, meaning he has a 25 percent chance of playing. Earlier Wednesday, the Vikings ruled defensive back Brian Williams (sprained left knee) out of Sunday's game. Ralph Brown will serve as the nickel back. The Vikings are not certain if Williams, who suffered a second-degree sprain, will be ready to play in time for the Oct. 16 game at Chicago.

Rookie role

If he starts Sunday, James will have capped a tumultuous first month as a professional. The 18th player selected in the April draft, James was inactive for the season opener against Tampa Bay after being weakened by virus-like symptoms.

"I had headaches, my lymph nodes were swollen, my skin felt really sensitive," James said. "There were a lot of things going on. But I feel a lot better now."

James said the exact nature of his illness was never determined. He made his debut two weeks ago at Cincinnati and has been credited with one tackle and two quarterback pressures this season.

The Vikings will need James at full strength Sunday against Falcons quarterback Michael Vick, who has scrambled for 175 yards this season.

"I'm really excited," James said. "You see him on TV all the time and see what he can do. So you kind of want to go out there and keep him boxed and try to eliminate the things that he's done to a lot of other teams."

Rookie role, Part II

A day after using three players at right guard, the Vikings contacted semi-retired lineman David Dixon on Monday to gauge his interest in returning to the team. Dixon, who is coaching part-time at Burnsville High School, said he is not interested in playing.

On Wednesday, coach Mike Tice reiterated his long-term commitment to rookie Marcus Johnson at the position, adding that his planned rotation there is designed mostly to aid Johnson's development. Johnson will start Sunday, but Anthony Herrera and possibly Adam Goldberg will see action as well.

"Marcus is our guy," Tice said. "But young players tend to compound their mistakes with another mistake right after it. So we just take him out, settle him down and put him back in."

Paulbedy59
09-29-2005, 12:56 PM
Man,sorry to hear about big Dave.I wqas hoping maybe he would make an appearance.I think maybe our boys should set up a MASH tent behind the bench.

V4L
09-29-2005, 02:39 PM
That's sweet he is coaching at my former city.. I was 1 year away from going there but moved up here.. Too bad Dixon doesn't wanna play.. Must be outta game shape.. I hope Udeze is good to go on Sunday too!

Jviking
09-29-2005, 03:04 PM
oh boy, here we go. I know injurys are a part of the game but man o man...at least we have the bye week comming up. I hope our defense can stay productive.
Too bad about Big Dix..at least hes coaching in MN.

whackthepack
09-29-2005, 03:57 PM
They should have brought big Dave to camp and had him for a backup from the beginning. He had his best year and I do not understand why Tice has a problem with him, he has been trying to get rid of him for a few years!

They also should have signed a veteran center in the off-season to back up Birk, especially with Birk having 3 surgeries since last year ended. They could have found somebody better than him for a backup at center. Withrow was a free agent, and nobody made him an offer. So we resign him, and now we are stuck with him.

If they would have signed somebody else and when Birk found out he had to have surgery then we could have brought Withrow in to be a backup.

It sucks that Kenechi is injured, we have way to many these last 2 years. Seems every week it is a knee problem or ankle problem.

PAvikesfan
09-29-2005, 04:02 PM
too little, too late for Dixon.

ShanePurpleBlood
09-29-2005, 04:20 PM
Yeah, it looks like o-line by committee.


MINNESOTA VIKINGS: Line by committee?

By Don Seeholzer

Knight Ridder Newspapers


ST. PAUL - With Mewelde Moore coming off a 100-yard rushing game against New Orleans, the Minnesota Vikings' running back committee has been at least temporarily adjourned. But the team could be headed for a rotation at another position.

Coach Mike Tice suggested this week that the Vikings could use a team approach to their interior offensive line problems.



Read on:

http://www.grandforks.com/mld/grandforks/sports/12758968.htm

snowinapril
09-29-2005, 04:41 PM
Udeze is almost always injured. This one sounds like it is not going to be good. I don't think he should play this week.

I hope that Erasmus does a better job than Udeze did as a rookie with his assignments. I remember Tice saying last year how Udeze wasn't following his assignment, trying to do too much at times.

Man, we got Brown, James, DT, and Irvin all having to play major roles this week. OUCH!!!!!

I just hope that Johnstone can play through his injury, need that help on the line.

Ltrey33
09-29-2005, 04:58 PM
I think our D will be alright. We are beat up, but with the bye coming up we should be fine. At least Smoot and Winfield are still playing along with Fat Pat and K-Will....those are the big 4 that we NEED to win. It will hurt without the other guys, but those 4 are the anchor, IMO.

VKG4LFE
09-29-2005, 05:04 PM
I think the worst part in all of this is the fact that Ralph Brown will be playing nickel back. He just flat out sucks!

snowinapril
09-29-2005, 05:12 PM
"ltrey33" wrote:

I think our D will be alright. We are beat up, but with the bye coming up we should be fine. At least Smoot and Winfield are still playing along with Fat Pat and K-Will....those are the big 4 that we NEED to win. It will hurt without the other guys, but those 4 are the anchor, IMO.

You are talking about containing the swiftest QB in the league.

Also, they are an elite team in the NFC even if they lost to the SeaDogs. They have a D that is proven tough.

This was no cakewalk with our starter and now we are heading in there with backups. This is going to be a dogfight no matter who plays, it is a tough game for us going onto their home turf where they are built for speed.

SamDawg84
09-29-2005, 05:17 PM
crap! y did david shoot us down? now im pissed off at him

snowinapril
09-29-2005, 05:21 PM
"SamDawg84" wrote:

crap! y did david shoot us down? now im pissed off at him

probably cause he left the door open and we dissed him by not bringing him in sooner. maybe he has some loyalty to what he has started in his coaching endevor.

VKG4LFE
09-29-2005, 06:26 PM
Does anyone remember what happened the last time we played Vick and the Falcons? (No, not the game when Vick was hurt and we kick the crap out of them) The game at the dome. I was there, Vick ran all over us and we still almost beat them. Actually we did beat them in regulation but in true viking fashion there was a penalty on the game winning TD so it had to go to OT! Now with an upgraded D (especially DBs) we'll be able to contain their WRs and hopefully take our fastest linebacker to spy Vick.

mnvikes61
09-29-2005, 06:49 PM
does anybody know if E.J going to be able to play this week? i think if we force Vick try and beat us with his arm we should be able to hang in there. our CBs should be able to lockdown their WRs like they did against a much better WR corps against N.O. the only player that is really going to make me nervous in the passing game is Crumpler, our TE coverage has been down right horrible.

Mr. Purple
09-29-2005, 06:58 PM
I dont fear the falcons, not one bit. Thier very One sided. Vick isnt playing at 100%, they have no Number 1, or even a threat a WR. Dunn is good i'll give him credit, but so is pat williams and kevin williams. I dont fear them, I fear the eagles more then ATL. Are they the team to beat? yes. Can we beat them? without a doubt. We're lucky to have starters from last year become our back ups this year. and I dont care if one falcon fan comes in here and says WELL MAN FEAR US WE'RE GOOD. no....I dont...contain vick=Victory. Take vick out of the game, and the offense shuts down.

snowinapril
09-29-2005, 07:23 PM
We need to bring in the "pipe hittin' LBs" to put a whoopin' on Vick.

We have a need for speed and containment.

Vikes
09-29-2005, 07:28 PM
Ughh what is Johnstone thinking?

UkViking
09-29-2005, 07:29 PM
Shame about Udeze, i hope Erasmus will come in and do a good job if he starts nand the rest of the D have a solid game.

RK.
09-29-2005, 07:41 PM
"VKG4LFE" wrote:

Does anyone remember what happened the last time we played Vick and the Falcons? (No, not the game when Vick was hurt and we kick the crap out of them) The game at the dome. I was there, Vick ran all over us and we still almost beat them. Actually we did beat them in regulation but in true viking fashion there was a penalty on the game winning TD so it had to go to OT! Now with an upgraded D (especially DBs) we'll be able to contain their WRs and hopefully take our fastest linebacker to spy Vick.
What was our offense averaging in total yards per game that year?? :wink:

VKG4LFE
09-29-2005, 08:01 PM
I have no idea, but what does that have to do with it?

Articnv
09-29-2005, 08:30 PM
I was at the game to. It was fun to watch vick run but there was alot of pathitec calls by the refs

gregair13
09-29-2005, 08:35 PM
D.V.D. is hard to stop on any day. as long as vick is playing, he is a threat to run and poon us like he did last year. personally, i dont think they are going to be able to score with us.

whackthepack
09-29-2005, 08:45 PM
Johnstone got the results of his second opinion, and they were the same as the first. That he does not need surgery, and that he can play with the injury. He was supposed to practice today and should play on Sunday.

VKG4LFE
09-29-2005, 09:19 PM
"gregair13" wrote:

D.V.D. is hard to stop on any day. as long as vick is playing, he is a threat to run and poon us like he did last year. personally, i dont think they are going to be able to score with us.


Poon us?? Huh?

Vick didn't play against us last year.

gpete13
09-29-2005, 09:25 PM
"VKG4LFE" wrote:

"gregair13" wrote:

D.V.D. is hard to stop on any day. as long as vick is playing, he is a threat to run and poon us like he did last year. personally, i dont think they are going to be able to score with us.


Poon us?? Huh?

Vick didn't play against us last year.


I think he is meaning to use PWNED, a way to use the term OWNED.

gregair13
09-29-2005, 09:31 PM
that run against us where he broke like everyone tackle and spinned moved and was all L1 R2 all over us.
poon is pwned which is also owned.

Lotza
09-29-2005, 09:38 PM
hmm........ looks like david has moved on. . .
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gpete13
09-29-2005, 10:10 PM
"gregair13" wrote:

that run against us where he broke like everyone tackle and spinned moved and was all L1 R2 all over us.
poon is pwned which is also owned.


hahaha through in an O button and then finished off with the X.

VKG4LFE
09-29-2005, 10:31 PM
"gregair13" wrote:

that run against us where he broke like everyone tackle and spinned moved and was all L1 R2 all over us.
poon is pwned which is also owned.


Huh? Man I am getting old at the ripe old age of 26. I am out of it! So he owned us, OK.

whackthepack
09-29-2005, 10:41 PM
gregair

We do not usually use the "owned" term, it promotes people arguing and every thread will be about who owned who. And if you really did beat somebody in a debate both of you will know it, so you do not have to tell them.

magicci
09-30-2005, 12:44 AM
i heard dixon is extremely overweight. and i hope that erasmus gets very aquainted with mr. mexico this week.

PurplePeopleEaters
09-30-2005, 12:51 AM
"magicci" wrote:

i heard dixon is extremely overweight. and i hope that erasmus gets very aquainted with mr. mexico this week.

You want our rookie draft pick to get Herpes? :shock: :lol:

midgensa
09-30-2005, 01:37 AM
God with the nicks to Sharper, Udeze, EJ and Offord out we are starting to look really thin on D. I hope that Kenechi sits out and recoops throught the bye, but we need Sharper and EJ to give everything they have to keep legs fresh and keep veterans on the field.
I hope that James shows some of the promise we have been looking for.

DemonicViking
09-30-2005, 01:40 AM
"PurplePeopleEaters" wrote:

"magicci" wrote:

i heard dixon is extremely overweight. and i hope that erasmus gets very aquainted with mr. mexico this week.

You want our rookie draft pick to get Herpes? :shock: :lol:

C'mon that's low.....

but quite funny. :lol:

cajunvike
09-30-2005, 05:47 AM
Even though the Vikings didn't end up signing our former starter at RG, I hear that the MVCs still want Big Dix!

natethegreat
09-30-2005, 05:54 AM
"DemonicViking" wrote:

"PurplePeopleEaters" wrote:

"magicci" wrote:

i heard dixon is extremely overweight. and i hope that erasmus gets very aquainted with mr. mexico this week.

You want our rookie draft pick to get Herpes? :shock: :lol:

C'mon that's low.....

but quite funny. :lol:

yeah it is, but mr. mexico will be running for his life and throwing alot of ints this sunday, hopefully erasmus doesn't stay on the ground too long with mr. mexico after he sacks him because you never know what ron would do

DaunteHOF
09-30-2005, 03:52 PM
James coming in, wont relinquish the starting spot, watch. James and udeze!