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viking hope
04-08-2004, 05:10 PM
The Vikings could be positioning themselves for a run at Pitt's Fitzgerald, a Minneapolis native who could take over for Randy Moss in the Metrodome. Minnesota has reportedly discussed a deal that would send Moss to Oakland in exchange for Fitzgerald, whom the Raiders would take second overall in this scenario, cornerback Charles Woodson and an additional first-day draft pick.


got this from kfan site (vikings) in the rumor mill column.

Would this be a good deal? we already have our CB, but getting an additional first day pick> mmmmmm. I say only if Fitzgerald can open things up like randy did when he first came on board.. he still has to learn our routes and plays. Can we afford a set back like that, when we are poised to make a run for the playoffs this year.

vikings_fan66
04-08-2004, 05:22 PM
I havent heard about this yet but, this sounds very possible I would be for it I think it would help the team. I think Fitzgerald is the next Moss but with a better attitude. I would definetly think that this would be a good deal.

muchluv4smoot
04-08-2004, 05:31 PM
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by vikings_fan66

I havent heard about this yet but, this sounds very possible I would be for it I think it would help the team. I think Fitzgerald is the next Moss but with a better attitude. I would definetly think that this would be a good deal.
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I'd do it in a heartbeat. It would definately set our offense back for awhile, but our D would be awesome with woodson and winfield. We would still have our first round pick to use on another good D player. I like Moss as much as any vikes fan, but I am all for improving the Vikes as a team, and I believe that this move would improve us.

I am however realistic, and don't expect that this will happen at all. I really don't see us trading Moss, that would be a huge cut hit, if we got rid of him.

josdin00
04-08-2004, 05:39 PM
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by viking hope

The Vikings could be positioning themselves for a run at Pitt's Fitzgerald, a Minneapolis native who could take over for Randy Moss in the Metrodome. Minnesota has reportedly discussed a deal that would send Moss to Oakland in exchange for Fitzgerald, whom the Raiders would take second overall in this scenario, cornerback Charles Woodson and an additional first-day draft pick.


got this from kfan site (vikings) in the rumor mill column.

Would this be a good deal? we already have our CB, but getting an additional first day pick> mmmmmm. I say only if Fitzgerald can open things up like randy did when he first came on board.. he still has to learn our routes and plays. Can we afford a set back like that, when we are poised to make a run for the playoffs this year.
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I could potentially see trading Moss at some point, but in that scenario. It would have to be a Ricky Williams style trade for me to approve of the move as a fan. I mean the draft day trade where the Saints gave up all of their other picks to get him. We saw how well that worked out for Ditka, and considering that draft picks are what enables teams to stay under the Cap, I don't think that will ever happen again.

There are relatively few players in this league that change how your opponents play their game. We have one of them. Let's keep it that way.

triedandtruevikesfan
04-08-2004, 05:42 PM
I guess I can't see this happening, nor can I say that I would want it too. First of all Charles Woodson is getting old. He may be good for a year or two, but not enough for the trade to be worth it, also getting Fitz Jr. would be good if he had moss to teach him, but I wouldn't trade our proven WR for a rookie

josdin00
04-08-2004, 05:49 PM
One more point. I don't want to get rid of Moss the very same season that the league is going to emphasize pass interferance and illeagal contact penalties. This should be a banner year for Moss, since he'll actually be able to run free after 5 yards. We've all seen Moss get mauled without the refs calling it. That won't happen this year.

Plus last year, from everything I read, Moss kept his attitude in check, and played the part of the good citizen. I'm excited by the direction his career is taking, and I don't want to see him go.

triedandtruevikesfan
04-08-2004, 05:54 PM
amen to that

purplehorn
04-08-2004, 06:04 PM
Randy has really matured as a person and a player and still has alot of good years. I
don't think we should trade him for a rookie. Just a bad idea

RandyMoss8404
04-08-2004, 06:12 PM
Larry Fitzgerald will be good, perhaps the next Cris Carter, but never, ever, will he touch Randy Moss.

He runs a 4.47 40 and can't block as well, has no experience, and nowhere near Moss' agility. Just a bad, bad idea. Charles Woodson isn't as good as he used to be anyway.

ItalianStallion
04-08-2004, 06:13 PM
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by purplehorn

Randy has really matured as a person and a player and still has alot of good years. I
don't think we should trade him for a rookie. Just a bad idea
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Are we still talking about this? Isn't it pretty much assured that Moss will not be traded. Fitz is great and all, but he doesn't have the speed, leaping ability or freakish athletic ability that Moss has. We won't be making that trade, not when Woodson needs a new, expensive contract.

VIKE58
04-08-2004, 06:24 PM
No way we trade Moss ! We would be tradeing away the #1 reciver in the NFL for an unknown. Why the H*LL would they do that ! That's why they picked up Robinson to be #2 with Moss. That's Nuts. I don't see that happening. ( I HOPE IT DON'T )

Viking_Spirit
04-08-2004, 06:24 PM
Moss WILL NOT get traded.........

Big Daddy
04-08-2004, 06:38 PM
I hope Moss doesn't get traded. Can you name a played on our team that is more dedicated to winning a SB? A lot of his attitude problems were because he was pissed that we didn't make it to the SB. He has also begun to grow up in the last few years and has become a leader on our team. trading Moss would not be a good idea.

Hawgski
04-08-2004, 06:53 PM
Kill this thread!!![ba][ba][ba][:D]

bennett23
04-08-2004, 06:58 PM
Our offence is right where it needs to be and if we fill a couple needs through draft and FA we have a shot at the super bowl.without moss we have no shot

LosAngelis
04-08-2004, 07:02 PM
I hope you don't trade Moss either. You may actually become a cohesive team capable of winning it all if you let him go.

XsnappleX
04-08-2004, 07:18 PM
Whoever said Fitzgerald would be the next carter is so dead wrong. No one will ever be him. Not only did he have AMAZING HANDS and never dropped a ball in any situation, not to mention a better route runner than Moss, but he was the leader of the vikings for years and years always perfect. Moss is good, but never will he be Carter, unless he can stop frusterating himself and leading to poor play. Carter though, proved to be great even though no great quarterbacks ever steadily through to him for years. I think he's much better than Rice. Rice was good because he had 2 hall of fame QB's throwing to him. As for that trade. BAD idea. Just flat out stupid to gamble the best WR in the league despite another DB, who by the way is going downhill.

DoyleRulz84
04-08-2004, 07:42 PM
I dont like this trade at all. Randy Moss is the Vikings and it would hurt the team too much if he left.

Mossville
04-08-2004, 07:56 PM
triedandtrue...Woodson is only 1 maybe 2 years older than Moss

randymoss8484...when was Moss ever a good blocker?

I dont see it happening and I dont even think Fitz is the best WR in the draft, Roy Williams has better speed and size. This trade would definately shore up our pass D which would allow the safetys to play up close to stop the run which would help our run D.

Ok, why am I still typing...ITS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN

triedandtruevikesfan
04-08-2004, 08:06 PM
ok... gonna take that part back... I was actually thinking of Rod Woodson... but either way... I still don't want the trade, and it won't happen so it don't matta

briboy75
04-08-2004, 09:54 PM
no way we trade our best player for an old guy, an unknown and a draft pick

LosAngelis
04-08-2004, 10:25 PM
Okay, I'll be non-biased here (but don't get used to it).

You guys would be getting the top wideout in the draft ( a bit of a crap shoot, because WR's are particularly hard to predict success with), a shutdown corner, and an extra draft pick in the first three rounds for Moss.

I don't know. Obviously, you guys would like some team to replenish all those picks you lost with Herschel Walker.

I'd push to make that extra draft pick a 2nd rounder, and I'd probably jump on it. Moss is a tremendous talent, but if you remotely subscribe to my tenets that he simply is too much chaos to bring your team together (regardless of the positive strides he's made), this trade could open up Daunte to spread the field and enjoy playing, give him a couple reliable targets to fire at, and perhaps three picks in the first two rounds? AND the best CB in the NFC North?

Yeah, I'd like more for Moss too, but Al Davis is known for over paying and over trading for players. This might be the best deal you get.

Frozen Tundran
04-08-2004, 10:31 PM
This is a tough one...I dunno what I'd do for sure if I was the Vikes--it's arisk either way.

Moss is the dominant player at his position, but he's probably about halfway done with his career--at least playing at an elite level. Fitzgerald sounds *sooo* good it's tough not to think of him as a suitable replacement.

Problem is, Moss *is* great, Fitzgerald *might* be great. Or he might just be pretty good and have a Ricky Prouhl-type career.

As a Packer fan I'd be dlighted if Moss was gone, so I suppose that means you should probably keep him.

hawaiianvike21
04-08-2004, 10:40 PM
Rumors dont happen most of the time.
SO dont expect us to trade a single penny.
No such trade will happen.
End of story.[rip]

ItalianStallion
04-08-2004, 11:31 PM
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by hawaiianvike21

Rumors dont happen most of the time.
SO dont expect us to trade a single penny.
No such trade will happen.
End of story.[rip]
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Most is the best player on this team and is the Identity of the Vikings, no way do they trade him.

RandyMoss8404
04-08-2004, 11:34 PM
Would you people get off of Randy Moss' nuts about how much 'chaos' he brings to a team

Give me one cocky quote or action from him from the 2003 Season. Just one.

He was even GIVEN the opportunity to down TO. What did he say?

"Watch the film."

Randy's Nuts - Packers Fans = Good, thanks.

eelpout72
04-08-2004, 11:37 PM
This "rumored" trade possiblity doesnt even address our most important need: defensive end. Also, although Charles Woodson is a probowl corner, we dont need him because 1) we got Winfield and 2) Brian Williams played well last year and I expect him to only get better.

No way. No way. No way.

LosAngelis
04-08-2004, 11:52 PM
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by RandyMoss8404

Would you people get off of Randy Moss' nuts about how much 'chaos' he brings to a team

Give me one cocky quote or action from him from the 2003 Season. Just one.

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You're right, he didn't bring as much visible chaos this season.

I still am guessing, however, there's some tension. You cannot deny that when the Vikes lost to the Packers, he was jogging routes and on one play in particular, gave no effort whatsoever to catching a ball. He still has that aura of taking plays off ("to rest himself"), and the pressure on Culpepper, who had a QB rating of 90+ last season, to get the ball to Moss, Moss, Moss, then someone else in his progressions.

Can't prove it...just the impression I get. Hope he takes more plays off again this year against the Packers, though.

GreenBaySlackers
04-09-2004, 06:28 PM
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by josdin00

One more point. I don't want to get rid of Moss the very same season that the league is going to emphasize pass interferance and illeagal contact penalties. This should be a banner year for Moss, since he'll actually be able to run free after 5 yards. We've all seen Moss get mauled without the refs calling it. That won't happen this year.

Plus last year, from everything I read, Moss kept his attitude in check, and played the part of the good citizen. I'm excited by the direction his career is taking, and I don't want to see him go.
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word brother

DiehardVikesFan
04-09-2004, 07:03 PM
That trade definately would not be worth it. Fitzgerald is not the next Moss. Fitzgerald isn't nearly as fast, can't jump as high, and I don't think has as good of hands.

RandyMoss8404
04-09-2004, 07:11 PM
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by LosAngelis

<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by RandyMoss8404

Would you people get off of Randy Moss' nuts about how much 'chaos' he brings to a team

Give me one cocky quote or action from him from the 2003 Season. Just one.

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You're right, he didn't bring as much visible chaos this season.

I still am guessing, however, there's some tension. You cannot deny that when the Vikes lost to the Packers, he was jogging routes and on one play in particular, gave no effort whatsoever to catching a ball. He still has that aura of taking plays off ("to rest himself"), and the pressure on Culpepper, who had a QB rating of 90+ last season, to get the ball to Moss, Moss, Moss, then someone else in his progressions.

Can't prove it...just the impression I get. Hope he takes more plays off again this year against the Packers, though.


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Moss 'takes plays off' to 'lull overrated cornerbacks/safeties to sleep' in order to do things http://www.randymossonline.com/9th%20TD_03.avi like that.

LosAngelis
04-09-2004, 07:35 PM
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by RandyMoss8404
Moss 'takes plays off' to 'lull overrated cornerbacks/safeties to sleep' in order to do things http://www.randymossonline.com/9th%20TD_03.avi like that.
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He takes plays off to tell me I can't play the selected file because I am missing a plugin? Seems like a lame reason to me.

RandyMoss8404
04-09-2004, 08:14 PM
LoL. It's divx I think?

vikingfan
04-10-2004, 12:01 AM
To all the Randy Moss haters and those who want to see him traded.

I probably hate Randy Moss's additude more than any other Viking fan in the state of Minnesota. BUT! I would never ever want to see him traded. Second to Fran Tarkenton he will go down as the best Viking player the Vikings have ever had.