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WBLVikeBabe
08-29-2005, 06:40 AM
People help me out here, i've got this crazy Packer fan trying to tell me that Vikings fans don't like Culpepper, I hope that is not true. He was telling me that last year Vikings fans were cheering for Frerotte to be on the field instead. Now I've never heard this, so is he crazy or was this something I was just unaware of??

ultravikingfan
08-29-2005, 06:42 AM
Some may have...but after the season he had last year it just solidified his standing as one of the premiere QB's in the league!

NeoVikesTX
08-29-2005, 06:42 AM
He doesn't know what he is talking about. Sounds like he is living 3 years in the past. No one who knows anything about the Vikes questions Daunte's talent or leadership on this team now.

ItalianStallion
08-29-2005, 06:43 AM
Maybe they were talking about Buck and Chubchub

magicci
08-29-2005, 06:43 AM
i think they were saying that before last season. especially after the performance Frerotte had when daunte was injured but those fans are delerious.

WBLVikeBabe
08-29-2005, 06:44 AM
Ya that's what I thought too, I've been in this argument with him about it though and I needed to hear others thoughts.

V4L
08-29-2005, 06:44 AM
Some fans were doubting him when he was fumbling alot.. But I think he is by far the fan favorite player now.. He is simply amazing! Dont let a packer fan fill ur head with that bull shit!

Lotza
08-29-2005, 06:44 AM
"WBLVikeBabe" wrote:

People help me out here, i've got this crazy Packer fan trying to tell me that Vikings fans don't like Culpepper, I hope that is not true. He was telling me that last year Vikings fans were cheering for Frerotte to be on the field instead. Now I've never heard this, so is he crazy or was this something I was just unaware of??


what is this packer backer Smoking????

magicci
08-29-2005, 06:46 AM
lol i have never seen so many replies in so little time.

ultravikingfan
08-29-2005, 06:46 AM
"ItalianStallion" wrote:

Maybe they were talking about Buck and Chubchub

:lol: I remember those 2 idiots!

Mr Anderson
08-29-2005, 06:53 AM
"Lotzapurple119" wrote:

"WBLVikeBabe" wrote:

People help me out here, i've got this crazy Packer fan trying to tell me that Vikings fans don't like Culpepper, I hope that is not true. He was telling me that last year Vikings fans were cheering for Frerotte to be on the field instead. Now I've never heard this, so is he crazy or was this something I was just unaware of??


what is this packer backer Smoking????

The same shit as "The SemiOfficial Bong Tester" :lol:

magicci
08-29-2005, 06:59 AM
"Mr Anderson" wrote:

"Lotzapurple119" wrote:

"WBLVikeBabe" wrote:

People help me out here, i've got this crazy Packer fan trying to tell me that Vikings fans don't like Culpepper, I hope that is not true. He was telling me that last year Vikings fans were cheering for Frerotte to be on the field instead. Now I've never heard this, so is he crazy or was this something I was just unaware of??


what is this packer backer Smoking????

The same pooh as "The SemiOfficial Bong Tester" :lol:
but our smoker loves daunte.

ultravikingfan
08-29-2005, 06:59 AM
Or maybe they have been hanging out with the "Butch Wool Muncher" too much! :lol:

whackthepack
08-29-2005, 04:01 PM
If a Viking fan does not like Daunte than I would have to say that person is an IDIOT!!!!!!

The man is a future hall of famer!! And by the time he decides to retire (hopefully not for at least 8 years) he will have at least2 superbowl rings and 3 MVP seasons!!!

Ltrey33
08-29-2005, 04:07 PM
How can you not like Daunte? He may very well be the best QB in the league! Anyone who doesn't want him to play is either racist, or a freakin idiot (ok, those two are synonyms I know)

6-KINGS
08-29-2005, 04:16 PM
Well, as soon as you said "a Newman Fan said"

It lost all credibility.
Newman fans are just jealous that we have the future and they have jack squat!!
Anything to try and stir the pot........in their bong.........in the farmyard.......pants down..........chasing lambs.

Del Rio
08-29-2005, 04:17 PM
I have a friend who is a die hard Viking fan. He can't stand Daunte, he hates his roll, and he hates the way he talks the way he acts the way he handles himself.

He doesn't complain about his ability he just doesn't like the guy.

PurplePackerEater
08-29-2005, 04:38 PM
I see it quite a bit, fair weather fans that can't stand to see a black quarterback. Don't act like racism doesn't exist, it does. No, not in the way that it used to, just that some people don't like to see black people succeed.

Although, America IS proggressing, one generation at a time. :wink:

whackthepack
08-29-2005, 04:38 PM
"Del Rio" wrote:

I have a friend who is a die hard Viking fan. He can't stand Daunte, he hates his roll, and he hates the way he talks the way he acts the way he handles himself.

He doesn't complain about his ability he just doesn't like the guy.


Del Rio, I think it's time to tell your friend to get over it!!!!

He doesn't have to want to marry Daunte, but it's time to put the other crap out of his head and look at the things that he does well!

whackthepack
08-29-2005, 04:47 PM
"PurplePackerEater" wrote:

I see it quite a bit, fair weather fans that can't stand to see a black quarterback. Don't act like racism doesn't exist, it does. No, not in the way that it used to, just that some people don't like to see black people succeed.

Although, America IS proggressing, one generation at a time. :wink:


I am white, but I do not think that because you do not like a black person makes you a racist. If you do not like all black people, then you are a racist!
Just the same as if you do not like all white people, then you are a racist. if you do not like a white person, that doesn't make you a racist!

I hate John Elway can not stand him (it made me sick that he won 2 superbowls), but I am white. If I was a black man and I hated John Elway would that make me a racist, no!!

6-KINGS
08-29-2005, 04:54 PM
"PurplePackerEater" wrote:

I see it quite a bit, fair weather fans that can't stand to see a black quarterback. Don't act like racism doesn't exist, it does. No, not in the way that it used to, just that some people don't like to see black people succeed.

Although, America IS proggressing, one generation at a time. :wink:

Yeap that is a sword that still cuts on every race.

But ya know it will never completely go away unfortunately.

People just love to hate.

Del Rio
08-29-2005, 05:09 PM
"PurplePackerEater" wrote:

I see it quite a bit, fair weather fans that can't stand to see a black quarterback. Don't act like racism doesn't exist, it does. No, not in the way that it used to, just that some people don't like to see black people succeed.

Although, America IS proggressing, one generation at a time. :wink:

That's pretty much a crock of shit.

My friend is Black, the guy that doesn't like Daunte. There are a lot of White QB's I don't like. People are just going to have to deal with the fact the everybody can't be in love with who you are.


It's not like if he met Daunte on the street he would be a dick or if he lived next door to the guy he would burn crosses on his yard or even treat him any different. He is a fan, his opinions about his team stay on the field so to say.

tastywaves
08-29-2005, 05:11 PM
I would take Daunte over any other quarterback in the league right now. Including Peyton, Brady, McNabb and Happy Feet Vick. A few years back with all his turnovers was a different story. He's the primary reason the Vikings will continue to have a potent offense.

mnjamie
08-29-2005, 05:15 PM
Ummm ya, it's all been said. That non-sense was being spread around by some unknowing rednecks in Minny .... that was right before i moved to FL and D.Pep had a rough season with the interceptions ... is "Crazy" People talk now ....

PurplePackerEater
08-29-2005, 05:35 PM
"Del Rio" wrote:

"PurplePackerEater" wrote:

I see it quite a bit, fair weather fans that can't stand to see a black quarterback. Don't act like racism doesn't exist, it does. No, not in the way that it used to, just that some people don't like to see black people succeed.

Although, America IS proggressing, one generation at a time. :wink:

That's pretty much a crock of pooh.

My friend is Black, the guy that doesn't like Daunte. There are a lot of White QB's I don't like. People are just going to have to deal with the fact the everybody can't be in love with who you are.


It's not like if he met Daunte on the street he would be a dick or if he lived next door to the guy he would burn crosses on his yard or even treat him any different. He is a fan, his opinions about his team stay on the field so to say.

You said "pooh" , "my friend", and "love" in the same post. Ha, ha, I think that I'm on to you...

ShanePurpleBlood
08-29-2005, 06:28 PM
Daunte is the man! It was hard to watch when he had those fumbles, but I never lost faith. I wouldn't trade him for anyone!

SKOL VIKINGS!

10 days til FOOTBALL!!!

JDogg926
08-29-2005, 06:30 PM
Daunte = TD's, wins, superbowl???

Del Rio
08-29-2005, 08:29 PM
"PurplePackerEater" wrote:

"Del Rio" wrote:

"PurplePackerEater" wrote:

I see it quite a bit, fair weather fans that can't stand to see a black quarterback. Don't act like racism doesn't exist, it does. No, not in the way that it used to, just that some people don't like to see black people succeed.

Although, America IS proggressing, one generation at a time. :wink:

That's pretty much a crock of pooh.

My friend is Black, the guy that doesn't like Daunte. There are a lot of White QB's I don't like. People are just going to have to deal with the fact the everybody can't be in love with who you are.


It's not like if he met Daunte on the street he would be a dick or if he lived next door to the guy he would burn crosses on his yard or even treat him any different. He is a fan, his opinions about his team stay on the field so to say.

You said "pooh" , "my friend", and "love" in the same post. Ha, ha, I think that I'm on to you...

Taken in context:

Shit: You are full of it :grin:
My friend: Yeah I have a few surprising I know.
Love: Just because you are infatuated by Daunte doesn't mean every other person alive needs to worship the guy.

PurplePackerEater
08-29-2005, 08:44 PM
"Del Rio" wrote:

"PurplePackerEater" wrote:

"Del Rio" wrote:

"PurplePackerEater" wrote:

I see it quite a bit, fair weather fans that can't stand to see a black quarterback. Don't act like racism doesn't exist, it does. No, not in the way that it used to, just that some people don't like to see black people succeed.

Although, America IS proggressing, one generation at a time. :wink:

That's pretty much a crock of pooh.

My friend is Black, the guy that doesn't like Daunte. There are a lot of White QB's I don't like. People are just going to have to deal with the fact the everybody can't be in love with who you are.


It's not like if he met Daunte on the street he would be a dick or if he lived next door to the guy he would burn crosses on his yard or even treat him any different. He is a fan, his opinions about his team stay on the field so to say.

You said "pooh" , "my friend", and "love" in the same post. Ha, ha, I think that I'm on to you...

Taken in context:
pooh: You are full of it :grin:
My friend: Yeah I have a few surprising I know.
Love: Just because you are infatuated by Daunte doesn't mean every other person alive needs to worship the guy.

Where's the fun in that?

Del Rio
08-29-2005, 08:51 PM
Excellent point LOL! :grin:

Proceed :lol:

cajunvike
08-29-2005, 09:17 PM
"6-KINGS" wrote:

"PurplePackerEater" wrote:

I see it quite a bit, fair weather fans that can't stand to see a black quarterback. Don't act like racism doesn't exist, it does. No, not in the way that it used to, just that some people don't like to see black people succeed.

Although, America IS proggressing, one generation at a time. :wink:

Yeap that is a sword that still cuts on every race.

But ya know it will never completely go away unfortunately.

People just love to hate.

Way to diffuse it, 6!

Unfortunately, the answers to the black-white "debate" are NOT simply black and white!!!

magicci
08-29-2005, 10:01 PM
anybody who is a viking fan and hates daunte has been hangin out with packer fans too much.

ItalianStallion
08-30-2005, 12:41 AM
Even in those couple years where Daunte was struggling , people never complained about his physical ability. The fact of the matter is that all Daunte ever had to do was learn how to read and he would be an awesome QB. I think that he showed last year, and this preseason, the he has progressed as a player.

southern_yankee
08-30-2005, 01:00 AM
maybe you all know different vikings fans than i did, but i know that for the past few years, i've known lots and lots of 'em who thought 'pep was a horrid qb. i disagreed with them 'cause i'm not a friggin' moron, but i can sorta understand them...the fumbles were hard to take. my point is that there were a lot...and i mean, a lot, of your average fans who disliked him...(and i do not think they were being racist).

smootpepper
08-30-2005, 01:12 AM
I think if the white/black racist debate is ever going to end. It will becasue blacks and whites will get together and unite to hate mexicians. /jk :smile:

yeah, the early culpepper hate was because he fumbled a lot. then the randy ratio went into efffect and culpepper had 20 some odd interceptions that year. Pep has fixed those problems and plays awsome. I dont know anyone that doesnt want Pep playing except for the Iowa guy in that other thread. I dont think race ever had anything to do with pep and people not liking him.

southern_yankee
08-30-2005, 01:15 AM
"smootpepper" wrote:

I think if the white/black racist debate is ever going to end. It will becasue blacks and whites will get together and unite to hate mexicians. /jk :smile:

yeah, the early culpepper hate was because he fumbled a lot. then the randy ratio went into efffect and culpepper had 20 some odd interceptions that year. Pep has fixed those problems and plays awsome. I dont know anyone that doesnt want Pep playing except for the Iowa guy in that other thread. I dont think race ever had anything to do with pep and people not liking him.

This is just to say that I really like your sig...

mvikes84
08-30-2005, 04:34 AM
"PurplePackerEater" wrote:

I see it quite a bit, fair weather fans that can't stand to see a black quarterback. Don't act like racism doesn't exist, it does. No, not in the way that it used to, just that some people don't like to see black people succeed.

Although, America IS proggressing, one generation at a time. :wink: Yes racism does exist but it is a two way street. I work around plenty of black people who can't stand white people.

Ltrey33
08-30-2005, 04:36 AM
I don't care what race you are, if you think Daunte is bad, and you don't want him on your team then you don't know football.

VegasLadyJae
08-30-2005, 04:52 AM
The Greatest College Football Quarterback Statisticly, is Daunte Cu;lpepper, if he does not win a Super Bowl he'll be Dan Marino the new batch......If he wins a Super Bowl he will only be the second greatest quarterback in Viking History...If he wins two Super Bowls...well he wasn't Doug Williams...ah society.

TARKenton
08-30-2005, 09:28 AM
"Del Rio" wrote:

I have a friend who is a die hard Viking fan. He can't stand Daunte, he hates his roll, and he hates the way he talks the way he acts the way he handles himself.

He doesn't complain about his ability he just doesn't like the guy.


Jeez! whats he think about TO then?

Never listen to a pecker fan, they all suffer from favretism.

UTVikfan
08-30-2005, 01:42 PM
It is amazingly odd that people don't remember the posts from a few years ago, and the BOOING that Pep got in the Metrodome from a couple years ago. I stopped reading and signed up, and started posting simply because of the OBSCENE ignorance. But most ya'll weren't here then anyway.
Brush it off lightly, if you will. But that Packer fan is right. Owe up. There were plenty of posts in the forums on this site from Vikes fans that were proud that they booed Pep. Course none of them would admit it now.
I was truly saddened by that booing, and am aghast at the denial. Not that I don't understand the ego mechanics behind it. Take the Bennett posts this offseason, and change the name to Pep, and add in some booings at home games. Really similar. Sadly so.
I met someone in a little casino near here, recently. He hated Pep, thought Favre was better, and missed Jeff George. I feel bad he was wearing a Vikings shirt and I started a conversation I couldn't get out of soon enough.
With Pep at least, I am sure glad that time told its tale. And will continue to.

SuperGonzo
08-30-2005, 03:48 PM
Shoot. . .if I was a Packer fan and looked at Daunte. . .and then I compared him to what my team had playing quarterback. . .I'd be p|ssed off, too. Wouldn't you be?

Del Rio
08-30-2005, 04:16 PM
Who is anyone here to say someone can or cannot like a player. Football is a way of life for some, for others it is just something they enjoy in passing. There are fans who love the old ways, run the ball hard and often. Maybe they do not like Daunte because they feel we wont ever be a running team with him. If you sit and bitch about who someone likes then your no better then the person who doesn't like your favorite player.

Daunte had a rough start, not many people like to remember it. He was drafted when people felt we really didn't need a QB so that alone caused some ulcers. He has done a very bad job managing the team when the game is close, when we need to come from behind. (I personally blame the coaching, but it reflects on the QB. The list goes on......

People are fans, that is it. They can root for who they want when they want. Make no mistake there is a huge difference between saying someone is no good and simply not caring or liking a guy.

I don't remember the Daunte bashing when I signed up. I heard a bit about it but nothing much. He sucked early on, that is for sure I never really put too much stock into the teams QB I have pretty much always liked them all. The only one I can remember actually disliking would be Jim Mc-moan, granted he played his non pro ball in Utah but damn I hated that guy.

When times are good, and winning is going on all those people who don't really pay much attention but root for the Purple and Gold don't gripe too much. Funny thing is that the people obsessed with it usually read too deep into things, I think a lot of times people who take it in passing enjoy it more, and can sum up a lot of things with accuracy that our passion cannot.

6-KINGS
08-30-2005, 04:36 PM
"Del Rio" wrote:

Who is anyone here to say someone can or cannot like a player. Football is a way of life for some, for others it is just something they enjoy in passing. There are fans who love the old ways, run the ball hard and often. Maybe they do not like Daunte because they feel we wont ever be a running team with him. If you sit and beeyatch about who someone likes then your no better then the person who doesn't like your favorite player.

Daunte had a rough start, not many people like to remember it. He was drafted when people felt we really didn't need a QB so that alone caused some ulcers. He has done a very bad job managing the team when the game is close, when we need to come from behind. (I personally blame the coaching, but it reflects on the QB. The list goes on......

People are fans, that is it. They can root for who they want when they want. Make no mistake there is a huge difference between saying someone is no good and simply not caring or liking a guy.

I don't remember the Daunte bashing when I signed up. I heard a bit about it but nothing much. He sucked early on, that is for sure I never really put too much stock into the teams QB I have pretty much always liked them all. The only one I can remember actually disliking would be Jim Mc-moan, granted he played his non pro ball in Utah but gol 'darnit I hated that guy.

When times are good, and winning is going on all those people who don't really pay much attention but root for the Purple and Gold don't gripe too much. Funny thing is that the people obsessed with it usually read too deep into things, I think a lot of times people who take it in passing enjoy it more, and can sum up a lot of things with accuracy that our passion cannot.

Right on Del!

I mean I love Cullpepper, but I hate the hell out of you!!
I mean Del this and Del that.
Oh the "great Del" He did this he did that!
Oh he is "soooooooo funny."
"I would hate to debate that Del Rio Guy"
"He is a sharp cookie"
Come on already!

What?????
Oh............ok.........
Seems I wrote all that good stuff about Del Rio.........
LOL
Anyway......

JK Del you know you are my Bud!
2 days til I find out something Del.
I will let you know ASAP.

tarkenton10
08-30-2005, 04:46 PM
Daunte had a great year last year but I am still leary of his decision making in big games. He made some good decisions in the GB game but made some horrible decisions in the Philly game. He didn't see wide open receivers that could have won the game. I am still not sure how he will perform in the big game. I think he has improved immensely in the regular season and will have another good year. He still needs to prove he can win the big game to me. He has become one of the better Qbs in the game but we will see how he performs in the playoffs. And saying someone is racist because they don't like him is just wrong and the people saying that are the closeminded ones. Do you really think any VIKING FAN WOULD GET RID OF A QB THEY THINK CAN WIN A SUPERBOWL. And we are not idiots Daunte had one good year and two bad years, now he had one good year. He still has some proving to do, consistency will win over his doubters and not insults by unthinking people who use race to make them sound enlightened. I am beginning to believe in him but will not until he plays well in the playoffs!!

Del Rio
08-30-2005, 04:52 PM
"6-KINGS" wrote:

"Del Rio" wrote:

Who is anyone here to say someone can or cannot like a player. Football is a way of life for some, for others it is just something they enjoy in passing. There are fans who love the old ways, run the ball hard and often. Maybe they do not like Daunte because they feel we wont ever be a running team with him. If you sit and beeyatch about who someone likes then your no better then the person who doesn't like your favorite player.

Daunte had a rough start, not many people like to remember it. He was drafted when people felt we really didn't need a QB so that alone caused some ulcers. He has done a very bad job managing the team when the game is close, when we need to come from behind. (I personally blame the coaching, but it reflects on the QB. The list goes on......

People are fans, that is it. They can root for who they want when they want. Make no mistake there is a huge difference between saying someone is no good and simply not caring or liking a guy.

I don't remember the Daunte bashing when I signed up. I heard a bit about it but nothing much. He sucked early on, that is for sure I never really put too much stock into the teams QB I have pretty much always liked them all. The only one I can remember actually disliking would be Jim Mc-moan, granted he played his non pro ball in Utah but gol 'darnit I hated that guy.

When times are good, and winning is going on all those people who don't really pay much attention but root for the Purple and Gold don't gripe too much. Funny thing is that the people obsessed with it usually read too deep into things, I think a lot of times people who take it in passing enjoy it more, and can sum up a lot of things with accuracy that our passion cannot.

Right on Del!

I mean I love Cullpepper, but I hate the hell out of you!!
I mean Del this and Del that.
Oh the "great Del" He did this he did that!
Oh he is "soooooooo funny."
"I would hate to debate that Del Rio Guy"
"He is a sharp cookie"
Come on already!

What?????
Oh............ok.........
Seems I wrote all that good stuff about Del Rio.........
LOL
Anyway......

JK Del you know you are my Bud!
2 days til I find out something Del.
I will let you know ASAP.

Let me know for sure or you can kiss that elk goodbye buddy :grin:

VKG4LFE
08-31-2005, 12:01 AM
Daunte's good.

whackthepack
08-31-2005, 12:33 AM
"tarkenton10" wrote:

Daunte had a great year last year but I am still leary of his decision making in big games. He made some good decisions in the GB game but made some horrible decisions in the Philly game. He didn't see wide open receivers that could have won the game. I am still not sure how he will perform in the big game. I think he has improved immensely in the regular season and will have another good year. He still needs to prove he can win the big game to me. He has become one of the better Qbs in the game but we will see how he performs in the playoffs. And saying someone is racist because they don't like him is just wrong and the people saying that are the closeminded ones. Do you really think any VIKING FAN WOULD GET RID OF A QB THEY THINK CAN WIN A SUPERBOWL. And we are not idiots Daunte had one good year and two bad years, now he had one good year. He still has some proving to do, consistency will win over his doubters and not insults by unthinking people who use race to make them sound enlightened. I am beginning to believe in him but will not until he plays well in the playoffs!!


Year Team .G GS Att Comp Pct Yards YPA Lg TD Int

2002 Minnesota Vikings 16 16 549 333 60.7 3853 7.02 61 18 23
2003 Minnesota Vikings 14 14 454 295 65.0 3479 7.66 59 25 11
2004 Minnesota Vikings 16 16 548 379 69.2 4717 8.61 82 39 11

2003 injured and only started 14 games but only played 1/2 of another game!

if you added in those 2 1/2 games he missed his numbers would look like this.

2003 full 16 game stats = 538 350 65.0 4123 7.66 59 30 13



That is not a bad year, plus he broke his back in 2003 and came back after 2 weeks! That is being tough!!!

In 2002 he was still learning, and did not have a great year, but he had a OK year!




I include his rushing stat but did not project those!!

RUSHING

Year Team G GS Att Yards Avg Lg TD 20+ FD
1999 Minnesota Vikings 1 0 3 6 2.0 9 0 0 1
2000 Minnesota Vikings 16 16 89 470 5.3 27 7 5 36
2001 Minnesota Vikings 11 11 71 416 5.9 34 5 3 31
2002 Minnesota Vikings 16 16 106 609 5.7 38 10 4 46
2003 Minnesota Vikings 14 14 73 422 5.8 42 4 1 28
2004 Minnesota Vikings 16 16 88 406 4.6 16 2 0 32
TOTAL 74 73 430 2329 5.4 42 28 13 174


Sorry Tarkenton10, he did not have a bad year in 2003 or 2002!

Del Rio
08-31-2005, 01:23 AM
23 interceptions?

That's not good. Where are his fumble stats? Go ahead and add those to his interceptions.

How far did he lead us into the playoffs?

GreenBaySlackers
08-31-2005, 01:28 AM
"VKG4LFE" wrote:

Daunte's good.

wurd

whackthepack
08-31-2005, 01:37 AM
"Del Rio" wrote:

23 interceptions?

That's not good. Where are his fumble stats? Go ahead and add those to his interceptions.

How far did he lead us into the playoffs?

Yeah he did have 23 in 2002, but then he brought that down and had 11 last year with 39 TD'S!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Plus, I did not find his fumble stats and I do not really care about them!!!

And in 2000 he lead us to the NFC Championship game!

And last year in a victory over the hated Green Bay Packers!!!!

MattShortNB81
08-31-2005, 01:52 AM
PS...since daunte culpeper has been a vikings he has never had a defense to take us deep into the playoffs...and oh yea..this genius brings up his interception stat from how many years ago 39 tds and 11 ints..id say thats a pretty good ratio wouldnt you? i know i know, preseason doesnt mean anything but of all the big name qb's daunte has looked as good as anyone for the short amount of time hes been given...he has completed like 85% of his passes with no interceptions..Pep is in the top 3 of QBs in this league easily.

Skol Vikes

Del Rio
08-31-2005, 03:18 PM
"MattShortNB81" wrote:

PS...since daunte culpeper has been a vikings he has never had a defense to take us deep into the playoffs...and oh yea..this genius brings up his interception stat from how many years ago 39 tds and 11 ints..id say thats a pretty good ratio wouldnt you? i know i know, preseason doesnt mean anything but of all the big name qb's daunte has looked as good as anyone for the short amount of time hes been given...he has completed like 85% of his passes with no interceptions..Pep is in the top 3 of QBs in this league easily.

Skol Vikes

Yeah I did bring up an interception stat, because Tarkenton said he struggled in 2002 soooooooooooooo... STFU. He had his struggles if you pretend he didn't like whack just did your one ignant sob.

This whole thread is pointless. He still has a lot to prove to some people. If you don't like it tough shit. That's the way the world turns baby. I like him just fine, but I know it doesn't make anyone less a fan if they don't.

tarkenton10
08-31-2005, 03:30 PM
Whack the pack, Matt short, you don't have to ride Del Rio because he brought up the ints. I was making a point that Culpepper hasn't been consistent and Wahck said he had a good year but didn't mention all the ints and fumbles. That makes it a very bad year, I would much rather have a Tom Brady who makes very few mistakes and doesn't have great numbers than someone who will put up Manning type numbers but give up the ball twice a game. Anyway Del Rio is usually right on when he says something and this is no different. Culpepper may have had good stats but not a good year when you take into account his turnovers. And you have a point with the defense but he has not been too impressive in the playoffs to me. He had one good game last year in the playoffs, one good game will not win a superbowl title. So he still has to prove to me that he can win in the playoffs. Now he supposedly has a defense now and no excuse not to take us deep onto the playoffs. If after this year he does that I will place more faith in him, but for me the jury is still out on whether he is a GREAT QB. I think right now he is a good QB but not in the league of the greats of the game.

whackthepack
08-31-2005, 04:07 PM
What you said in your post Tarkenton was he had 2 bad years and 1 good year, I do not see how you call 2003 a bad year!

2003 injured and only started 14 games but only played 1/2 of another game!

if you added in those 2 1/2 games he missed, his numbers would look like this.

2003 full 16 game stats = 538 350 65.0 4123 7.66 59 30 13



That is not a bad year, plus he broke his back in 2003 and came back after 2 weeks! That is being tough!!!


If he played a full 16 games this is about what his stats would have looked like! He missed 2.5 games because he broke bones in his back!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

30 TD"S, 13 INT's and almost 4,200 yards passing is not a bad season!

digital420
08-31-2005, 04:11 PM
heh.. lets not talk history and let the present show itself..

with just over 3 full quaters of play..
G Att Att/G Cmp Pct Yds Yds/G Lng TDs Int Sck SckY Rate
Daunte C. 3 33 11.0 28 84.8 427 142.3 42 1 0 3 26 128.9

Brett Favre 3 37 12.3 22 59.5 201 67.0 23 2 2 1 8 69.8


who'd u rather have?

DiGiTaL

tarkenton10
08-31-2005, 04:56 PM
Career Stats Passing Rushing Sacked Fumbles
Season Team G QBRat Comp Att Pct Yds Y/G Y/A TD Int Rush Yds Y/G Avg TD Sack YdsL Fum FumL
1999 Minnesota 1 0.0 0 0 0.0 0 0.0 0.0 0 0 3 6 6.0 2.0 0 0 0 1 0
2000 Minnesota 16 98.0 297 474 62.7 3937 246.1 8.3 33 16 89 470 29.4 5.3 7 34 181 11 6
2001 Minnesota 11 83.3 235 366 64.2 2612 237.5 7.1 14 13 71 416 37.8 5.9 5 33 186 16 7
2002 Minnesota 16 75.3 333 549 60.7 3853 240.8 7.0 18 23 106 609 38.1 5.7 10 47 244 21 8 2003 Minnesota 14 96.4 295 454 65.0 3479 248.5 7.7 25 11 73 422 30.1 5.8 4 37 196 15 6
2004 Minnesota 16 110.9 379 548 69.2 4717 294.8 8.6 39 11 88 406 25.4 4.6 2 46 238 9 4
Career 74 93.2 1539 2391 64.4 18598 251.3 7.8 129 74 430 2329 31.5 5.4 28 197 1045 73 31

I was talking about the '01 & '02 seasons. Culpepper in '01 was not very good but most people forget that year because of the '02 season. Bu tI would say he stats are pretty poor for that year. 27 TURNOVERS in 11 games!!!! QB rating of 83.3!! If using your logic and we project that out for 16 games Culpepper in '01 would have had 39.28 TURNOVERS!!! That is worse than the '02 season!!! And we all know about the '02 campaign.
I don't care if you think Culpepper is the greatest of all time, that is your perogative. I am just saying he has been very inconsistent year to year and not very good in the playoffs. That is my opinion and until he shows he can win the big game I will have some doubt about his ability. So just because you are clouded by blind faith in your favorite player on your favorite team doesn't mean other people can't have a more realistic point of view. And stats don't tell the whole story sometimes. Last year he did have great year and I thought he came a long way in his accuracy and decision making. But he still doesn't see open receivers and that is a concern. His decision making process is not taken into account when they say he has a good year or a bad year. The philly game last year (playoff game) he looked gittery in the first quarter (he threw horrible apsses; one landed five yards sort of a receiver on a hitch pass) and didn't see open receivers all game. Does anyone remember Wiggins running free at the twenty waving his hands? Don't get me wrong I am very confident about this year, but Culpepper still has alot left to prove to some fans. And we are entitled to that opinion, and it is not without merit to feel that way. Like I said before Culpepper needs to string together a few good years before most people will agree with your point of view.

whackthepack
08-31-2005, 06:30 PM
Tarketon I am tired of arguing with you and I proved your post wrong and you can not give it up. So he was a young player that need to learna and he did and has done GREAT the last 2 years! I said great!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I think you can not admit that you are wrong about him, so go on hating one of the best QB's in the game today!!!!!

itzdoja
08-31-2005, 06:32 PM
he didnt come alon way in accuracy hes had it he broke the ncaa completion % record held by steve young. so hes always been accurate dont you remember the randy ratio dont blame daunte for coach jar head

Del Rio
08-31-2005, 06:32 PM
That's what is funny about about posts like these. Someone is bound to get so far off the subject by not being able to comprehend what is trying to be said that no one knows what the hell is going on.

It never fails that it gets reduced to it's most primative level and the point is entirely missed.

Del Rio
08-31-2005, 06:39 PM
Daunte had a great year last year but I am still leary of his decision making in big games. He made some good decisions in the GB game but made some horrible decisions in the Philly game. He didn't see wide open receivers that could have won the game. I am still not sure how he will perform in the big game.

I think he has improved immensely in the regular season and will have another good year. He still needs to prove he can win the big game to me.

He has become one of the better Qbs in the game but we will see how he performs in the playoffs.

And saying someone is racist because they don't like him is just wrong and the people saying that are the closeminded ones. Do you really think any VIKING FAN WOULD GET RID OF A QB THEY THINK CAN WIN A SUPERBOWL.

And we are not idiots Daunte had one good year and two bad years, now he had one good year.

He still has some proving to do, consistency will win over his doubters and not insults by unthinking people who use race to make them sound enlightened.

I am beginning to believe in him but will not until he plays well in the playoffs!!

That is his post, so tell me what in the hell are you even arguing about? If you really read that all he said is hey, Daunte is really good but until he wins some big games, some playoff games, I'm not sold on him being one of the greats.

There is his reference to stats and it was jumped on, one sentence out of an entire message. One sentence that really could have been left out, and it gets twisted into some statistical debate that has nothing to do with anything.

Look some people like the guy, some people don't. There are good reasons for both.

whackthepack
08-31-2005, 06:42 PM
Tarkenton's stats, and I loved watching Tark play!


Year Team G Att. Comp. Pct. Yds. TD Int. Rating No. Yds. Avg. TD
1961 Minnesota 14 280 157 56.1 1997 18 17 74.7 56 308 5.5 5
1962 Minnesota 14 329 163 49.5 2595 22 25 66.9 41 361 8.8 2
1963 Minnesota 14 297 170 57.2 2311 15 15 78 28 162 5.8 1
1964 Minnesota 14 306 171 55.9 2506 22 11 91.8 50 330 6.6 2
1965 Minnesota 14 329 171 52 2609 19 11 83.8 56 356 6.4 1
1966 Minnesota 14 358 192 53.6 2561 17 16 73.8 62 376 6.1 4
1967 New York (N.F.L.) 14 377 204 54.1 3088 29 19 85.9 44 306 7.0 2
1968 New York (N.F.L.) 14 337 182 54 2555 21 12 84.6 57 301 5.3 3
1969 New York (N.F.L.) 14 409 220 53.8 2918 23 8 87.2 37 172 4.6 0
1970 New York Giants 14 389 219 56.3 2777 19 12 82.2 43 236 5.5 2
1971 New York Giants 13 386 226 58.5 2567 11 21 65.4 30 111 3.7 3
1972 Minnesota 14 378 215 56.9 2651 18 13 80.2 27 180 6.7 0
1973 Minnesota 14 274 169 61.7 2113 15 7 93.2 41 202 4.9 1
1974 Minnesota 13 351 199 56.7 2598 17 12 82.1 21 120 5.7 2
1975 Minnesota 14 425 273 64.2 2994 25 13 91.8 16 108 6.8 2
1976 Minnesota 13 412 255 61.9 2961 17 8 89.3 27 45 1.7 1
1977 Minnesota 9 258 155 60.1 1734 9 14 69.2 15 6 0.4 0
1978 Minnesota 16 572 345 60.3 3468 25 32 68.9 24 -6 -0.3 1
Career Total 246 6467 3686 57 47003 342 266 80.4 675 3674 5.4 32


His last year was 16 games

60.3 % completion ratio
3,468 yards pssing
25 TD's
32 interceptions

career
342 TD's
266 interceptions


ps. Fran fumbled a lot!


And I think that he was one of the best QB's ever to play the game!

UTVikfan
08-31-2005, 06:46 PM
Yes, Del Rio, by the time you had signed up here, the Dante bashing...worse than the Bennett bashing as of late was well over.

Del Rio
08-31-2005, 06:50 PM
Again how many Superbowls did Fran Play in?

How many NFC Championships
How many Division Championships
How many playoff games won..................

I don't get the impression Tark is caught up on the stats. You are the one that started throwing that out there.

As far as his posts go I get the impression one of the things he values above all else is winning games, big games that count. That must be what he guages a QB on.

Then again it is really up to him to tell you not me. So I will just STFU.

Del Rio
08-31-2005, 06:52 PM
"UTVikfan" wrote:

Yes, Del Rio, by the time you had signed up here, the Dante bashing...worse than the Bennett bashing as of late was well over.

I figured that much. Especially since at random times during the season random posters would be like "WHO WANTS GUS NOW BITCHES!!!! MWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA"

Lol

ADubya26
08-31-2005, 06:58 PM
The only knack I have against Daunte is his ability to win the big one and his ability to engineer a comeback or a 2 minute drill type of situation. Each year, he gets better and better so maybe this will be the year where he adds those final touches to his game.

Jviking
08-31-2005, 07:01 PM
I for one am glad we have Culpepper. Yes he makes some mistakes, but he gets better each season. If he can stay healthy he is a good quarterback. Lets see if he can be a great leader...

tarkenton10
08-31-2005, 07:13 PM
Del Rio - Once again you understand what I am trying to say. As far as being proven wrong if you feel that, good for you. But I just pointed out Daunte's consistency or lack thereof, and the two bad years (which he had were '01 &'02). Look at his stats and see who was wrong!! And I am not a Daunte hater as you might think, I just don't have the same amount of confidence in him that you do. And if you really read my posts, I have said some good things about him. If you think he is a HOF QB that's great, but it is not my opinion, no hate on Daunte, I just don't feel he has risen to that benchmark yet. What I don't get is why Whack the pack feels that everyone has to have his opinion about the players? We all must march in goose step to what whack the pack says. Make sure you send out the memo on each player Whack so we know how we are suppose to think. Oh wait this is America, for a moment I thought we were in the old USSR, or Nazi Germany.

CanadaViking
08-31-2005, 07:30 PM
Daunte has not won the big game yet or hasn't strung together 6 full strong seasons yet, but there are a plethora of reasons for that.
1) Randy Moss' presence did not allow Daunte to be the LEADER!
2) Supporting cast (a Defense) was nowhere to be found throughout Daunte's career in Minnesota.
3) He was a young QB in the beginning (-2000 NFC Championship) but he did win some January ball games.
4) Mike Tice,(sorry for saying it) is a bucket head

Since McNabb has won games in January, does that make him one of the greats?

And since Dan Marino didn't win the big one, is he not a great?

I know this is about liking or disliking Daunte and Del said it is okay to do either, I for one do not buy it. Daunte used to worry me in 2002, but the last 2 years has given me and I hope most of the faithful the confidence to put our team into Daunte's hands.

I am a huge Vikings fan, I spend $1000's on travel to games, jerseys, paraphernalia, Sunday ticket and I am going to back my man C-Pep and I respect the opinions of those of you who are still in limbo. However you must look at the BIG picture as to why the Vikes have not won the big game during Daunte's tenure, and to simply use his inabilities as the reason for the unsuccess of the team is a little no, no wait a lot misinformed. As for the racism card, I do not buy it, there is racism around, but it does not pertain to this converssation.

Remember when Packer fans post on here and yap about their Super Bowl success of the past and everyone on here say" just like a Packer backer to be living in the past". Well lets use that advice and remember that Daunte had the 2nd most prolific quarterback season of ALL TIME last season!!!

And the Michael Bennet thing isn't even close to the same situation, MB has not done a thing over the last 3 years and as far as I am concerned you are only as good as your last season and I think we can do the math on that one.

Thank-you for your time

Cheers!!

Del Rio
08-31-2005, 07:52 PM
"I know this is about liking or disliking Daunte and Del said it is okay to do either, I for one do not buy it. Daunte used to worry me in 2002, but the last 2 years has given me and I hope most of the faithful the confidence to put our team into Daunte's hands."


I'm not selling it, it's just how I feel. Tolerance is bliss. For every reason you just stated to support him someone could give a reason they don't and in the end you would end up agreeing to disagree.

The fact of the matter is simple. Everyone wants the season to start and a lot of people have let their dreams of domination run rampant and it has taken over reality.

The Vikings will lose some games this year, I just hope no one here hurts themselves too bad when they realize that our team is vunerable as well. If someone speaks out on that, it isn't being less of a fan, that is a fallacy.

Some fans do not feel a need to attach themselves with one players some just like the team and leave it at that. The exact same people who have their hopes so high and are buying into everything are the same people who will be posting on how we suck or how we need to fire someone or how we need to trade someone after our 1st loss.

CanadaViking
08-31-2005, 08:11 PM
I realize that there will be supporters and naysayers and I also know that the Vikes are not invincible (you are right we will lose some games), all I want to get across is that WE DO have one of the best signal callers around throwing passes for us, as Viking fans. I am NOT going to argue with someone that doesn't like Daunte that is there perogative, what I will do however is argue with Vikings fans that do not like Daunte (as a player) because I have got to ask the question, which QB (out of any of them) would do a better job in Minnesota?

I believe we will ride Daunte to the Super Bowl, maybe not this year but I feel that we will get there and triumph with him at the helm!!

Cheers!!

tarkenton10
08-31-2005, 08:27 PM
I hope so, I know that!!

PurpleRide
08-31-2005, 08:29 PM
Daunte will be the best QB in Vikings history, fran might be right now, but pepp will smash his records. And the superbowl will come, fran never won one. I have been a daunte fan since his first year playing, yes he has made mistakes, but every QB in this league minus brady has had a bad year. Now he has a good D on paper, maybe this year will be the year. I do know if pepp wins the SB will be the biggest athlete in the state for many years to come! Forget puckett, garnett, tark, marshall, harmon, win the SB daunte will be the man!

tarkenton10
08-31-2005, 08:46 PM
If he won the superbowl he would definitely move way up in my book!!

JDogg926
08-31-2005, 09:01 PM
He's clearly the leader of the Vikings, he's clearly the best player on the Vikings right now, and he has a bigger impact on whether we win or lose than any other one player on our team right now.

I support him, and like many people worried in 2001 and 2002, mainly due to all the turnovers, but I feel pretty comfortable with him in position as our leader right now.

whackthepack
08-31-2005, 09:02 PM
"tarkenton10" wrote:

Del Rio - Once again you understand what I am trying to say. As far as being proven wrong if you feel that, good for you. But I just pointed out Daunte's consistency or lack thereof, and the two bad years (which he had were '01 &'02). Look at his stats and see who was wrong!! And I am not a Daunte hater as you might think, I just don't have the same amount of confidence in him that you do. And if you really read my posts, I have said some good things about him. If you think he is a HOF QB that's great, but it is not my opinion, no hate on Daunte, I just don't feel he has risen to that benchmark yet. What I don't get is why Whack the pack feels that everyone has to have his opinion about the players? We all must march in goose step to what whack the pack says. Make sure you send out the memo on each player Whack so we know how we are suppose to think. Oh wait this is America, for a moment I thought we were in the old USSR, or Nazi Germany.


I did not say you had to like Daunte, what i disagreed with in your original post was that he did not have 1 good year 2 bad years and 1 good year.


So I posted his stats for the last three years to show that he had an OK year and 2 good years.

If you like Daunte or Not I could really give a F*ck!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

If you think he is not a good quarterback, in my opinion you are an idiot!

Is he the best that every lived, no!

Can he be the best Vikings QB ever, could be!

At the end of his career we will know, but my opinion is he will be a HOF!!

So, because I showed stats to disagree with your post, I am a Nazi!!!!!!!!

And because I just do not blindly follow your post as truth and gospel, and prove that his last 2 years have been good to great! I am a Stalinist? Just because you are not man enough to admit you were wrong makes you a small person!

tarkenton10
08-31-2005, 09:27 PM
Listen I have been trying to be nice but you are a real idiot. I showed Culpepper's stats for '01 & '02, those were the years I was referring to d*pSh*t. And if you look at the stats that I posted, they were two bad years!!!! That is how many I said he had!! Read the posts again because apparently you can't absorb the information the first time you read them. And you are allowed to move your lips if it helps!! I could give a rats arse what you think but I have stated that Culpepper is a good QB but I do not have the faith in him that you do. So go to bed and dream of Culpepper for all I care but he has not won any big games yet and until he proves he is a Brady or even a Tarkenton who won some big games but not the big one, I will not have the same belief in him that you do. You however seem to be the one to prove people wrong yet you do not read my post with Daunte's stats from 01 & 02. "THE TRUTH, YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH" (Jack Nicholson from "A few good men") Did you not see that or are you choosing not to believe them or can't YOU HANDLE being wrong. Either way I don't care about your opinion or what you have to say, you mean nothing to me. If Daunte has a great year again, that will great. But if he wins the superbowl I will be ecstatic. So this debate doesn't matter, what matters are the season ahead of Culpepper and how he leads this team now that it has the potential to win a superbowl.

snowinapril
08-31-2005, 10:09 PM
"tarkenton10" wrote:

So go to bed and dream of Culpepper for all I care but he has not won any big games yet and until he proves he is a Brady or even a Tarkenton who won some big games but not the big one, I will not have the same belief in him that you do.

Tark, If only Daunte (during his prime years NOW) had a coach like Belly-Check and Bud Grant instead of a coach like Homer Simpson.

Daunte had a he11 of a season last year and we did crap? Sometimes guys aren't in a position to win, coach and D or even an organization itself.

whackthepack
08-31-2005, 10:15 PM
"tarkenton10" wrote:

Listen I have been trying to be nice but you are a real idiot. I showed Culpepper's stats for '01 & '02, those were the years I was referring to d*pSh*t. And if you look at the stats that I posted, they were two bad years!!!! That is how many I said he had!! Read the posts again because apparently you can't absorb the information the first time you read them. And you are allowed to move your lips if it helps!! I could give a rats arse what you think but I have stated that Culpepper is a good QB but I do not have the faith in him that you do. So go to bed and dream of Culpepper for all I care but he has not won any big games yet and until he proves he is a Brady or even a Tarkenton who won some big games but not the big one, I will not have the same belief in him that you do. You however seem to be the one to prove people wrong yet you do not read my post with Daunte's stats from 01 & 02. "THE TRUTH, YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH" (Jack Nicholson from "A few good men") Did you not see that or are you choosing not to believe them or can't YOU HANDLE being wrong. Either way I don't care about your opinion or what you have to say, you mean nothing to me. If Daunte has a great year again, that will great. But if he wins the superbowl I will be ecstatic. So this debate doesn't matter, what matters are the season ahead of Culpepper and how he leads this team now that it has the potential to win a superbowl.



Listen to me I have been more than nice to somebody that called me a Nazi!!!!!!!!!!!!! You are a small little man you dumba$$ and if you want to start name calling you little pin headed d*ck you can kiss my a$$!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You keep pushing because you can not admit you were wrong (and you were) and if you remember 2002 Daunte started the year out playing poorly, and was benched in a couple games. After that he started firing on all cylinders and finished the year very strong!

Maybe you should actually watch the games!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

He had a breakout year in 2003, and continued last year with one of the best years a QB has ever had in the league!

If Manning had not had 49 TD's Daunte wwould have probably been the league MVP!

So If you are to stupid to know when your a$$ has been kicked and beaten, then I feel pity for you, jerk off!!!!


So, loser if you want to keep going, keep posting!! Every-time you post about this I will slap you around even more!!!!!!

LOSER!

Del Rio
08-31-2005, 10:17 PM
This is just an example of something spun horribly off course.

I for one am glad he is our QB, just his ability to avoid a sack makes him the only QB for our team.

Teams adapt players adapt, play styles change if given time. I do think Daunte would have more success if we had a good run game like he had in the early days of his career. I don't know if there is a Viking fan on here that doesn't like the guy. Some people may have hated him when he liked to give the ball to the other team, but like him now. There's no shame in that.

I think he could have a great year, I also think he could have a hard one, but I would attribute that to poor lineplay. It looks to me he is mature enough to overcome that now though. If anything scares me about him is he just doesn't seem to have the ability to take a game over. If the goings bad it gets worse if the going is good it stays good. I'd like to see him take a game over, I know he will eventually I just don't know if he will this year.

snowinapril
08-31-2005, 10:20 PM
Whack, it is your opinion which you are entitled to so don't get egged on by others, leave it be.

I don't want to have to see Viking Fans at other Viking Fans throats arguing opinion over the internet. Maybe the world is ending as the other thread suggests.

tarkenton10
08-31-2005, 10:27 PM
Slap what around numnutz, do you not understand what the year 2001 and 2002 mean. I have the stats on the post just read it. And slap who around you are an idiot, and if you look you were the one to start with the insults. Look at his stats for those two years and if you can't admit those were bad years then nothing can touch you in your little world. As I stated before idiots like you don't bother me because you are too stupid to take seriously!! I never said Daunte didn't have a good year last year, again you have no clue how to read, remember reading is fundamental. I never said Daunte was not a good QB D*PSH*T. I said he hasbn't won any big games. He has gotten better the last two years but needs to step up to the next level. Tell me how many wins does he have with less than two minutes to play? That tells alot about a money QB. He has a D now and an average coach, can he win now? AND CAN YOU READ THE POST WITH HIS STATS? If not then maybe you should walk away from the computer.

whackthepack
08-31-2005, 10:34 PM
"tarkenton10" wrote:

Slap what around numnutz, do you not understand what the year 2001 and 2002 mean. I have the stats on the post just read it. And slap who around you are an idiot, and if you look you were the one to start with the insults. Look at his stats for those two years and if you can't admit those were bad years then nothing can touch you in your little world. As I stated before idiots like you don't bother me because you are too stupid to take seriously!! I never said Daunte didn't have a good year last year, again you have no clue how to read, remember reading is fundamental. I never said Daunte was not a good QB D*PSH*T. I said he hasbn't won any big games. He has gotten better the last two years but needs to step up to the next level. Tell me how many wins does he have with less than two minutes to play? That tells alot about a money QB. He has a D now and an average coach, can he win now? AND CAN YOU READ THE POST WITH HIS STATS? If not then maybe you should walk away from the computer.


You started the name calling you stupid impotent dick-less wonder!

What did I just post about Daunte's 2002 year?????? Read it, it is the truth!

Can you read? Or did you not learn how to you ignorant hill-billy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Maybe you should have watched the games!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

Did I ever say his 2001 season was good?????

You are the one who missed up on your first post, I just pointed it out to you, Dumba$$!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

whackthepack
08-31-2005, 10:35 PM
If you were talking about the idiot thing that is not an insult that was just fact!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

jackyl
08-31-2005, 10:56 PM
Whack and Tark need to both relax, or you'll both be sitting the bench here for a while.