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vikings_fan66
04-23-2005, 11:15 PM
I was reading these early draft drades and i Completely agree.

Heres what they said about the lions:

10. Detroit selects: Mike Williams, WR, USC
What in the heck is this team doing? Unless this team has a deal worked out for Williams with another team, why would they draft him? This is a luxury. Not a need. They have Charles Rogers. They have Roy Williams. Both were high first-round picks. And although there is some injury concerns with those two, no team can afford three high first-round picks at one position. This is a terrible move, no matter what kind of player Williams can be. Grade D

Heres what they said about the Vikes 7th And 18th Picks

7. Minnesota selects: Troy Williamson, WR, South Carolina
(From Oakland) This is the right pick. Not Mike Williams. Troy Williamson can fly. The Vikings needed to replace their deep threat in Randy Moss, and Williamson can do that. The Vikings did the right thing drafting the speed, not the possession receiver. A terrific pick of a player I love.
Grade A+

18. Minnesota selects: Erasmus James, DE, Wisconsin
The Vikings got their speed receiver earlier, now they come back and get a good defensive end. If not for injury concerns the past two years, James would have gone a lot higher. He's a steal here. A good pick by the Vikings. Grade B +

I completely Agree with these ideas. Some of you guys have to stop being so damn pessimistic.

Heres the link if you want to se the rest http://www.sportsline.com/nfl/story/8400557

DarrinNelsonguy
04-23-2005, 11:19 PM
I agree very good analysis.

PurplePackerEater
04-24-2005, 12:11 AM
I don't agree completly. The Lions can line up in a four reciever set and who has enough quality corners to cover them all?!?!

We're going to get alot of use out of Brian Williams - but alot of teams don't even have TWO quality DBs.

So, no. I don't agree with the article.

ultravikingfan
04-24-2005, 12:17 AM
I think the bigger question is their QB. Garcia is not a sure bet, and Harrington is flat.

PurplePackerEater
04-24-2005, 12:17 AM
Nobody thought Derrick Johnson would last until 15, but he did, and they gave that pick a C. Wow.

DarrinNelsonguy
04-24-2005, 12:23 AM
If Det goes 4 WR then we will kill their QB because you still need someone to block. LOL!

PurplePackerEater
04-24-2005, 12:31 AM
"DarrinNelsonguy" wrote:

If Det goes 4 WR then we will kill their QB because you still need someone to block. LOL!Good theory, but Harrington does have a quick release. I just don't like to underestimate the opponent.

6-KINGS
04-24-2005, 12:40 AM
Are the Lions trying to be the old Warren Moon Houston Oilers?
I was kind of taken back by that pick as well.
Time will tell if they can make it work.
I know they tried some years back to do this same thing.
The Run and Shoot? I think that is what it is called.
Sorry it has been a LONG day at the hospital for me.
The memory is shot today.

silvermane
04-24-2005, 11:21 PM
Mike Williams was a good pick for the Lions and the reason is because he was available to us when nobody thought he would be. Most people say we really screwed up by not taking someone like Shawn Merriman, Derrick Johnson, Pollack, or James. And if Mike Williams had been drafted by you or someone else ahead of us we would have taken one of those guys. But to pass on Mike Williams with the #10 pick when NOBODY had him falling that far would be just plain stupid, especially since our offense was so horrible last year and one of our projected star receivers Charles Rogers has suffered from so many collarbone injuries.

As for our offensive line we made a huge free agency pickup with Rick Demulling from the Colts, one of Edegerrin James and Mannings prize blockers.

Besides Shaun Cody was a great pickup in the 2nd round. We also picked up 2 more defensive ends and Dan Orlovsky as a backup QB.

I really feel that we have gotten stronger in the draft and free agency this year and that we will be a competitor with the Vikings and Packers for the division. Minnesota still looks the best right now but I take issue with those who think we wasted a pick on Mike Williams. It's all about value, and he was the best value for where we sat.

Lando
04-25-2005, 12:18 AM
Sure he might have been the best player available at #10 .. but he certainly didn't fit what the Lions really needed. He does fit in nicely with the other receivers and I'm sure the Lions offense will be improved (even with a questionable QB).

smashmouth34
04-25-2005, 02:01 AM
Garcia is not a bad qb. With the wr they have an adequate qb can win. It seems to me some wideouts on the rams a few years back made Warner a household name.

SKOL
04-25-2005, 02:24 AM
Nice to see you back Silvermane. I was thinking you might drop by after your draft.

You have 4 pretty good receivers now, counting Az Hakim. I can see you going with a quick hitting passing game, taking advantage of mismatches..., a lot like the run and shoot like 6-KINGS said. I might be wrong, but I think the best QB for that offense would be MIke McMahon though. For some reason I fear him more than Harrington or Garcia.

Paulbedy59
04-25-2005, 04:49 AM
I just hope the BAP next year isn,t a reciever again.By your logic they should grab him.They messed up.Way to much of thier cap space is gonna be tied up in WR,s.

silvermane
04-25-2005, 11:06 PM
"Paulbedy59" wrote:

I just hope the BAP next year isn,t a reciever again.By your logic they should grab him.They messed up.Way to much of thier cap space is gonna be tied up in WR,s.

you are forgetting that the BAP for us in the first round was also a team need. we need another big play receiver and offense was our problem last season. sure we have needs on defense but this was a great pick for us because at best it gives us 3 studs in the passing game, at worst it gives us 2 studs if charlie rogers has injury problems, knock on wood. you can never have enough great receivers.

salary cap won't be a problem. we are still farther under than most teams and even if it gives us problems down the road, we can trade any one of those guys.

silvermane
04-25-2005, 11:09 PM
"SKOL" wrote:

Nice to see you back Silvermane. I was thinking you might drop by after your draft.

You have 4 pretty good receivers now, counting Az Hakim. I can see you going with a quick hitting passing game, taking advantage of mismatches..., a lot like the run and shoot like 6-KINGS said. I might be wrong, but I think the best QB for that offense would be MIke McMahon though. For some reason I fear him more than Harrington or Garcia.

mcmahon is gone to philly believe it or not. i am actually glad we got garcia as a backup. as for harrington, the one thing the guys on tv were right about with this whole mike williams thing was that harrington knows this is last chance salloon.

VKG4LFE
05-01-2005, 08:48 PM
Harrington will once again underachieve and Charles Rogers will get hurt again!!

PurpleRide
05-01-2005, 09:00 PM
Harrington will be a back-up soon

Vikes
05-01-2005, 09:19 PM
"PurplePackerEater" wrote:

I don't agree completly. The Lions can line up in a four reciever set and who has enough quality corners to cover them all?!?!

We're going to get alot of use out of Brian Williams - but alot of teams don't even have TWO quality DBs.

So, no. I don't agree with the article.

The lions have no QB.

VKG4LFE
05-01-2005, 09:27 PM
"PurpleRide" wrote:

Harrington will be a back-up soon


I'm actually a little nervous about that too! Garcia is re-united with Mariucci and he has great young talent around him at the skill positions.

vegasvike
05-01-2005, 09:27 PM
"silvermane" wrote:

Mike Williams was a good pick for the Lions and the reason is because he was available to us when nobody thought he would be. Most people say we really screwed up by not taking someone like Shawn Merriman, Derrick Johnson, Pollack, or James. And if Mike Williams had been drafted by you or someone else ahead of us we would have taken one of those guys. But to pass on Mike Williams with the #10 pick when NOBODY had him falling that far would be just plain stupid, especially since our offense was so horrible last year and one of our projected star receivers Charles Rogers has suffered from so many collarbone injuries.

As for our offensive line we made a huge free agency pickup with Rick Demulling from the Colts, one of Edegerrin James and Mannings prize blockers.

Besides Shaun Cody was a great pickup in the 2nd round. We also picked up 2 more defensive ends and Dan Orlovsky as a backup QB.

I really feel that we have gotten stronger in the draft and free agency this year and that we will be a competitor with the Vikings and Packers for the division. Minnesota still looks the best right now but I take issue with those who think we wasted a pick on Mike Williams. It's all about value, and he was the best value for where we sat.

Hey silver good to hear from ya man I don't entirely agree w/ that article while the lions maybe should have gon w/ a D playertheir offence is gonna me killa with 3 big WR and K. Jones. They'll have a top 10-15 Offence and be 2nd in the nfc North I meant

VKG4LFE
05-01-2005, 09:29 PM
I don't know vegasvike. I think their offense and their win/loss record lie solely on the season harrington has. If he struggles yet again, they will be just as bad as they have been. If he finally makes some strides, then they could finish #2!