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digital420
08-05-2015, 06:06 AM
As we have the first of the depth charts. I figured it be interesting to track it throughout the pre-season. Sure there is mostly fodder cuts from 90-75.. but if you count it, there will be some quality players cut to reach 75. As we have 5 pre-season games, we'll be able to really see a lot of snaps with 2nd and 3rd position guys, and probably a lot of mixing in 1st string guys.

I've tried it a few times this morning with coffee, and thought what would other people think as well. So i'll put up the list. as this weekend is our first game we can start putting ----'s on people we know won't make it to the 75, and predictions on who's gonna get those very very very tight open spots.. I can easily pick 48 now.. but after 48 it gets hard.

http://www.vikings.com/news/article-1/Vikings-Release-First-Preseason-Depth-Chart/4ebaa6c2-c1bf-4242-ac25-ee5e99c90498

DiGiTaL

digital420
08-05-2015, 06:06 AM
This is the full TC roster. Lets see your 75, then 53. i'll add mine after office hours today, and will edit/change based on the 5 preseason games. let see who can match the actual final 53.

QB
Teddy Bridgewater
Shaun Hill
Taylor Heinicke
Mike Kafka

HB
Adrian Peterson
Jerick McKinnon
Matt Asiata
Joe Banyard
Dominique Williams
DuJuan Harris

FB
Zach Line
Blake Renaud

WR
Mike Wallace
Cordarrelle Patterson
Jarius Wright
Isaac Fruechte
Jordan Leslie
Gavin Lutman

WR
Charles Johnson
Adam Thielen
Stefon Diggs
Donte Foster
DaVaris Daniels
Ryan Whalen

TE
Kyle Rudolph
Rhett Ellison
MyCole Pruitt
Chase Ford
Brandon Bostick

LT
Matt Kalil
Carter Bykowski
Babatunde Aiyegbusi

LG
Brandon Fusco
David Yankey
Zac Kerin
Bob Vardaro

C
John Sullivan
Joe Berger
Tom Farniok

RG
Mike Harris
Tyrus Thompson
Isame Faciane

RT
Phil Loadholt
TJ Clemmings
Austin Shepherd


LE
Brian Robison
Scott Crichton
Ceasar Rayford
Leon Mackey

DT
Sharrif Floyd
Tom Johnson
BJ Dubose
Chrishon Rose

NT
Linval Joseph
Shamar Stephen
Chigbo Anunoby

RE
Everson Griffen
Justin Trattou
Danielle Hunter

WLB
Chad Greenway
Brandon Watts
Brian Peters

MLB
Audie Cole
Eric Kendricks
Mike Mauti

SLB
Anthony Barr
Gerald Hodges
Edmond Robinson
Josh Kaddu

LCB
Terance Newman
Trae Waynes
DeMarcus Van Dyke
Justin Coleman
Josh Thomas

RCB
Xavier Rhodes
Captain Munnerlyn
Jabari Price
Jalil Carter
Marcus Sherels

SS
Robert Blanton
Andrew Sendejo
Anthony Harris

FS
Harrison Smith
Antone Exum Jr.
Shaun Prater

P
Jeff Locke

K
Blair Walsh

LS
Cullen Loeffler
Kevin McDermott

H
Jeff Locke

KR
Cordarrelle Patterson
Marcus Sherels

PR
Marcus Sherels
Jarius Wright

C Mac D
08-05-2015, 04:33 PM
Like many of you, I haven't watched one down of camp yet... so this is purely speculative. Anywhoo, it's a good way to pass time at work.

Guys in green make the final roster.

QB
Teddy Bridgewater
Shaun Hill
Taylor Heinicke
Mike Kafka

HB
Adrian Peterson
Jerick McKinnon
Matt Asiata
Joe Banyard
DuJuan Harris

FB
Zach Line
Blake Renaud

WR
Mike Wallace
Cordarrelle Patterson
Jarius Wright
Isaac Fruechte

WR
Charles Johnson
Adam Thielen
Stefon Diggs
Ryan Whalen

TE
Kyle Rudolph
Rhett Ellison
MyCole Pruitt
Chase Ford

LT
Matt Kalil
Carter Bykowski
Babatunde Aiyegbusi

LG
Brandon Fusco
David Yankey
Bob Vardaro

C
John Sullivan
Joe Berger
Tom Farniok

RG
Mike Harris
Tyrus Thompson
Isame Faciane

RT
Phil Loadholt
TJ Clemmings
Austin Shepherd


LE
Brian Robison
Scott Crichton
Ceasar Rayford

DT
Sharrif Floyd
Tom Johnson
BJ Dubose

NT
Linval Joseph
Shamar Stephen

RE
Everson Griffen
Justin Trattou
Danielle Hunter

WLB
Chad Greenway
Brandon Watts
Brian Peters

MLB
Audie Cole
Eric Kendricks
Mike Mauti

SLB
Anthony Barr
Gerald Hodges
Edmond Robinson

LCB
Terance Newman
Trae Waynes
DeMarcus Van Dyke
Justin Coleman

RCB
Xavier Rhodes
Captain Munnerlyn
Jabari Price
Marcus Sherels

SS
Robert Blanton
Andrew Sendejo

FS
Harrison Smith
Antone Exum Jr.

P
Jeff Locke

K
Blair Walsh

LS
Cullen Loeffler
Kevin McDermott

H
Jeff Locke

KR
Cordarrelle Patterson
Marcus Sherels

PR
Marcus Sherels
Jarius Wright

rockymtdan
08-05-2015, 06:34 PM
Not exactly a fan favorite but he seems to find his way onto the roster year after year. Marcus Sherels


Like many of you, I haven't watched one down of camp yet... so this is purely speculative. Anywhoo, it's a good way to pass time at work.

Guys in green make the final roster.

QB
Teddy Bridgewater
Shaun Hill
Taylor Heinicke
Mike Kafka

HB
Adrian Peterson
Jerick McKinnon
Matt Asiata
Joe Banyard
DuJuan Harris

FB
Zach Line
Blake Renaud

WR
Mike Wallace
Cordarrelle Patterson
Jarius Wright
Isaac Fruechte

WR
Charles Johnson
Adam Thielen
Stefon Diggs
Ryan Whalen

TE
Kyle Rudolph
Rhett Ellison
MyCole Pruitt
Chase Ford

LT
Matt Kalil
Carter Bykowski
Babatunde Aiyegbusi

LG
Brandon Fusco
David Yankey
Bob Vardaro

C
John Sullivan
Joe Berger
Tom Farniok

RG
Mike Harris
Tyrus Thompson
Isame Faciane

RT
Phil Loadholt
TJ Clemmings
Austin Shepherd


LE
Brian Robison
Scott Crichton
Ceasar Rayford

DT
Sharrif Floyd
Tom Johnson
BJ Dubose

NT
Linval Joseph
Shamar Stephen

RE
Everson Griffen
Justin Trattou
Danielle Hunter

WLB
Chad Greenway
Brandon Watts
Brian Peters

MLB
Audie Cole
Eric Kendricks
Mike Mauti

SLB
Anthony Barr
Gerald Hodges
Edmond Robinson

LCB
Terance Newman
Trae Waynes
DeMarcus Van Dyke
Justin Coleman

RCB
Xavier Rhodes
Captain Munnerlyn
Jabari Price
Marcus Sherels

SS
Robert Blanton
Andrew Sendejo

FS
Harrison Smith
Antone Exum Jr.

P
Jeff Locke

K
Blair Walsh

LS
Cullen Loeffler
Kevin McDermott

H
Jeff Locke

KR
Cordarrelle Patterson
Marcus Sherels

PR
Marcus Sherels
Jarius Wright

C Mac D
08-06-2015, 08:50 AM
Not exactly a fan favorite but he seems to find his way onto the roster year after year. Marcus Sherels

My projections don't have him making the final roster... but in all honesty, he'll probably make the team because I doubt we keep four running backs.

TeamSoftware
08-06-2015, 10:54 AM
They need to keep Babatunde Aiyegbusi!

--Scott

C Mac D
08-06-2015, 04:59 PM
They need to keep Babatunde Aiyegbusi!

--Scott

This guy has the classic makings of a great story with very little substance.

Remember when we had Brock Lesnar signed for camp a few years back and he got cut after a few days?

RK.
08-06-2015, 05:47 PM
This guy has the classic makings of a great story with very little substance.

Remember when we had Brock Lesnar signed for camp a few years back and he got cut after a few days?

At least Babatunde has played football for the last several years unlike Lesnar.

Zeus
08-12-2015, 11:31 AM
My projections don't have him making the final roster... but in all honesty, he'll probably make the team because I doubt we keep four running backs.

They won't keep Asiata. He's done. And either Rhett Ellison or Chase Ford will be kept along with Rudy and MyCole.

As to Sherels, he's gone. Diggs can handle the PR duties and Sherels isn't a good enough CB to keep a spot because of that.

The last WR spot (they will keep 5) should come down to the failed #1 draft choice and Adam Thielen. I fear them cutting Thielen, because GB will pick him up and turn him into the next great white WR.

=Z=

Zeus
08-12-2015, 11:32 AM
They need to keep Babatunde Aiyegbusi!

Babs has "practice squad" written all over him.

=Z=

C Mac D
08-12-2015, 01:48 PM
They won't keep Asiata. He's done. And either Rhett Ellison or Chase Ford will be kept along with Rudy and MyCole.

As to Sherels, he's gone. Diggs can handle the PR duties and Sherels isn't a good enough CB to keep a spot because of that.

The last WR spot (they will keep 5) should come down to the failed #1 draft choice and Adam Thielen. I fear them cutting Thielen, because GB will pick him up and turn him into the next great white WR.

=Z=

RE: Asiata, you're probably right. Wouldn't mind that so much, I think DuJuan Harris is a more talented back anyways.

Agreed on Sherels. I think him getting cut is why they will end up keepin 6 WRs.

purplehelmut
08-12-2015, 02:17 PM
Hate to see Theilen cut. I think he is a damn good football player. I'd rather see Patterson cut. At least Theilen knows how to run routes and read coverage, which is what a receiver is supposed to do and things Patterson can't seem to comprehend. Theilen is also a good special teams guy.

C Mac D
08-12-2015, 03:57 PM
Hate to see Theilen cut. I think he is a damn good football player. I'd rather see Patterson cut. At least Theilen knows how to run routes and read coverage, which is what a receiver is supposed to do and things Patterson can't seem to comprehend. Theilen is also a good special teams guy.

We're keeping both, book it.

tarkenton10
08-12-2015, 04:16 PM
My projections don't have him making the final roster... but in all honesty, he'll probably make the team because I doubt we keep four running backs.

I think it is different this year, Diggs is looking like the real deal and he looks better than sherels in the punt return game. I personally think we have better dbs and the only thing that has kept him around this long has been his skill in the punt return game. he's gone IMO

PurplePowerPunch
08-13-2015, 09:18 PM
They won't keep Asiata. He's done. And either Rhett Ellison or Chase Ford will be kept along with Rudy and MyCole.

As to Sherels, he's gone. Diggs can handle the PR duties and Sherels isn't a good enough CB to keep a spot because of that.

The last WR spot (they will keep 5) should come down to the failed #1 draft choice and Adam Thielen. I fear them cutting Thielen, because GB will pick him up and turn him into the next great white WR.

=Z=

MyCole Pruitt we'll be really good for us I believe.

PurplePowerPunch
08-13-2015, 09:21 PM
Hate to see Theilen cut. I think he is a damn good football player. I'd rather see Patterson cut. At least Theilen knows how to run routes and read coverage, which is what a receiver is supposed to do and things Patterson can't seem to comprehend. Theilen is also a good special teams guy.

I totally agree with you. Theilen is all heart, because he is not the fastest or even the biggest WR out there. I hope we keep him though. He can do alot for the team.

SKOL

Leafman
08-14-2015, 02:43 PM
I think they'll keep only 3 RBs, Peterson, McKinnon and Asiata (as well as Line at FB), and have 3 TEs ... but not sure whether Ellison or Ford makes the cut. Agree Sherels does not make the team.

LEAFMAN THE PURPLE FAN

digital420
08-16-2015, 08:07 AM
was keeping an eye on things going on with the bubble players in my list.

I see 6 wr's being kept, which means.. i doubt we keep 6 cb's. and from what i saw last night (3 am for me) sherels seems to understand this.. he worked his tail off on the SPT.. making plays where he could. the more he puts on tape, the more likely he'll be picked up by someone who's desperate for a Punt Returner/semi CB. though. i think Diggs and Adam will be taking over the PR's from now on.

with norv's luv for TE's. i wouldn't be surprised if we keep 4. Rhett is a TE/FB hybrid.. and could be the back up FB if something happens to Zack.. with Phil's injury.. could spell an extra spot for a big blocker as well.. ie.. Rhett and Chase staying put.

as for RB.. this is hard. I liked Harris, and DW.. if they are gonna push out Asshat (can't stop calling him that) it'll be based on productivity and future potential.. I like Mckinnon.. but he really didn't impress me 2 much so far.. but when we are used to AP.. it's hard to impress us.


as for the D. LB's is where i see some harsh cuts. Mauti .. this kid is on the you better show up or it's Practice squad or cut.. (can he go practice squad?) hard to see 6 lb's and cole/hodges don't look like they are going to be cut.

we have 3 more pre-season games to go. between practices and game tape.. i'm sure we will be cutting people that will be on the starting/backup spots for another team.

DiGiTaL

PurplePowerPunch
08-16-2015, 04:13 PM
Me personally....I think Kendricks should start in the middle for our beloved Vikings. I believe he can make more plays in the run game and also the pass game.

VikingMike
08-24-2015, 08:56 AM
Cullen Loeffler cut...class act, served us well for many years.

C Mac D
08-24-2015, 09:51 AM
Cullen Loeffler cut...class act, served us well for many years.

Yeah, bummed to see that. Rick Spielman had a nice statement about the release:

"These types of decisions are the hardest part of our jobs," said GM Rick Spielman. "Cullen was outstanding in the community and on the field for the Vikings. He handled his business with class and his impact in the locker room and on the franchise were second to none. We wish him the best in the future." - Rick Spielman

C Mac D
08-24-2015, 09:59 AM
Also, I take back what I said about Sherels getting cut, that guy is working his tail off to make this team. He's on the final roster.

AngloVike
08-24-2015, 10:08 AM
Cullen Loeffler cut...class act, served us well for many years.

pity as he never caused any trouble on or off the field. Hope he can get picked up somewhere else as he deserves it.

purplehelmut
08-24-2015, 11:07 AM
WTH is going on with Walsh? Without the new contract he might be looking for a job soon. Looks like we're stuck with him. Wasn't great last year (last in FG percentage if I read correctly) and it looks like it has gotten into his head. NFC North is no place for weak minded kickers. I suggest he put in some extra time and get it going. This new extra point is going to be the difference in several games this year.

C Mac D
08-24-2015, 01:23 PM
WTH is going on with Walsh? Without the new contract he might be looking for a job soon. Looks like we're stuck with him. Wasn't great last year (last in FG percentage if I read correctly) and it looks like it has gotten into his head. NFC North is no place for weak minded kickers. I suggest he put in some extra time and get it going. This new extra point is going to be the difference in several games this year.

He only made 60% of his field goals his senior year at Georgia. Never been a great kicker, just a powerful one. His NFL rookie season was an anomaly.

tastywaves
08-25-2015, 01:11 PM
He only made 60% of his field goals his senior year at Georgia. Never been a great kicker, just a powerful one. His NFL rookie season was an anomaly.

Supposedly the special teams coach worked with Blair and got him to straighten things out. So what happened or what changed?

C Mac D
08-25-2015, 01:48 PM
Supposedly the special teams coach worked with Blair and got him to straighten things out. So what happened or what changed?

Reverting to old habits? The yips? Not really sure, but I have faith he'll work it out over time. Mason Crosby had a rough season 2 years ago, but Green Bay stuck with him as he worked through things. Hopefully the Vikes have the same patience.

digital420
08-26-2015, 06:06 PM
well.. this comment by Zimm shows that asshat will be on the squad..
i keep callng him that even though i've grown to like his running style, and seems to be improving.


Q: What do you see Matt Asiata’s role on special teams being this year?
A: I think he will continue to do that and he’s going to get some carries. He’s proven that he deserves some of those things. Matt [Asiata] is a guy that will do anything we ask him to do, whether it’s on the punt team or the kickoff return team or punt return team, he just goes in there and does. Matt wants to win, he wants to do good for his teammates. I really like him.

DiGiTaL

C Mac D
08-27-2015, 09:12 AM
Patterson should be on the roster bubble. He'd already be cut if it wasn't for his draft position.

purplehelmut
08-27-2015, 10:25 AM
If you need a yard, Asiata will get you three. If you need four yards, Asiata will get you you three. He is a tough player and a good special teams guy. I like him.

C Mac D
08-27-2015, 01:41 PM
If you need a yard, Asiata will get you three. If you need four yards, Asiata will get you you three. He is a tough player and a good special teams guy. I like him.

I agree. Don't get all the hate for Asiata, he's been there for us and delivered when we really needed it. Great goal-line back. I hope he makes the roster.

midgensa
08-29-2015, 10:06 PM
I love this thread this year because it is a year where we have enough talent to actually fill most of the spots with some depth!!!

I will post one after the final preseason game. I didn't get here fast enough to compete with the Final 75 post.

Fantastic thread!

digital420
08-31-2015, 05:22 AM
Right.. so the first cuts were.

RB Joe Banyard
TE Brandon Bostick
CB Jalil Carter
CB Justin Coleman
WR DaVaris Daniels
T Stephen Goodin
LB Josh Kaddu
WR Jordan Leslie
DE Caesar Rayford
DT Chrishon Rose
CB DeMarcus Van Dyke


i see @ least 2 of these going to the prac squad.
Goodin, Banyard if they can go.. and Van Dyke means that sherels still has a chance @ cb.. though. i think Prater will take the last spot there.

DiGiTaL

Suick
08-31-2015, 12:18 PM
WTH is going on with Walsh? Without the new contract he might be looking for a job soon. Looks like we're stuck with him. Wasn't great last year (last in FG percentage if I read correctly) and it looks like it has gotten into his head. NFC North is no place for weak minded kickers. I suggest he put in some extra time and get it going. This new extra point is going to be the difference in several games this year.

Missed another Saturday.............but what a PUNT!!!!!!!!

digital420
09-04-2015, 05:35 AM
right 5 pre season games done.. here's my crack at the final 53.. and possible ps guys

QB
Teddy Bridgewater
Shaun Hill
Taylor Heinicke


HB
Adrian Peterson
Jerick McKinnon
Matt Asiata

Dominique Williams = ps
DuJuan Harris = ps

FB
Zach Line

WR
Mike Wallace
Cordarrelle Patterson
Jarius Wright
Isaac Fruechte = ps

WR
Charles Johnson
Adam Thielen
Stefon Diggs

TE
Kyle Rudolph
Rhett Ellison
MyCole Pruitt
Chase Ford
Brandon Bostick = ps? pup?

LT
Matt Kalil
Carter Bykowski
Babatunde Aiyegbusi ???????

i believe 1-2 will be ps.. who.. i have no idea
LG
Brandon Fusco
David Yankey

C
John Sullivan
Joe Berger
Tom Farniok ps?

RG
Mike Harris
Tyrus Thompson

RT
Phil Loadholt
TJ Clemmings
Austin Shepherd ps??


LE
Brian Robison
Scott Crichton

DT
Sharrif Floyd
Tom Johnson
BJ Dubose possible ps?

NT
Linval Joseph
Shamar Stephen

RE
Everson Griffen
Justin Trattou
Danielle Hunter

WLB
Chad Greenway
Brandon Watts
Brian Peters ps?

MLB
Audie Cole
Eric Kendricks
Mike Mauti - hrd cut..can he go ps?

SLB
Anthony Barr
Gerald Hodges

LCB
Terance Newman
Trae Waynes
DeMarcus Van Dyke ps?

RCB
Xavier Rhodes
Captain Munnerlyn
Jabari Price

SS
Robert Blanton
Andrew Sendejo

FS
Harrison Smith
Antone Exum Jr.
Shaun Prater can he ps?

P
Jeff Locke

K
Blair Walsh

LS
Kevin McDermott

H
Jeff Locke

KR
Cordarrelle Patterson

PR
Adam / Diggs


DiGiTaL

JPPT1974
09-04-2015, 05:42 PM
Good one Digital 420!

JPPT1974
09-04-2015, 05:44 PM
Yeah as really IMHO, the Extra Point will flop. Especially come in the winter. Goodell really has ruined the game big time!

digital420
09-05-2015, 07:55 AM
well i guess prater can't ps as he was a journeyman.. though he's cut.. i thought mayb e he was a younghin and ps possible.. can't research them all.. unless yer being paid to do so!!

DiGiTaL

so far though.. the edge cuts are coming in the next few hours..

snowinapril
09-05-2015, 09:09 PM
On Saturday the Vikings released the following players:
T Babatunde Aiyegbusi
DT Chigbo Anunoby
DE B.J. DuBose
G Isame Faciane
C Tom Farniok
WR Donte Foster
WR Isaac Fruechte
S Anthony Harris
RB DuJuan Harris
DT Greg Hickman
DE Leon Mackey
LB Michael Mauti
LB Brian Peters
CB Shaun Prater
FB Blake Renaud
CB Josh Thomas
T Tyrus Thompson
C Bob Vardaro
LB Brandon Watts
WR Ryan Whalen
RB Dominique Williams
OL David Yankey

From listening to KFAN, T Babatunde Aiyegbusi couldn't get the plays down and needed so much help, maybe they will stash him on the practice squad for next year. Maybe he is a lost cause. He was an underdog coming in. The quote below must have been a cheap way to add depth.


Also on Saturday, G / T Jeremiah Sirles was acquired via trade from the Chargers. Sirles, who played collegiately at Nebraska, joined the Chargers as an undrafted free agent in May of 2014 and spent 11 weeks of last season on San Diego’s practice squad. He saw his first NFL game action against the 49ers on Dec. 20 last season. He made his first career start on Dec. 28 against the Chiefs.

digital420
09-06-2015, 03:34 AM
right so i missed out on just a couple and a snag from the chargers, as of Saturday evening, the Vikings roster stands as follows:

Quarterbacks (3) - there was a real danger if they tried to put heinicke on the ps.. i think the hopes are that next year. 2 qb's will be the norm. Teddy and Heinicke
QB Teddy Bridgewater
QB Shaun Hill
QB Taylor Heinicke

Running Backs (4) - no surprises here. through I hope DW makes the ps!
RB Adrian Peterson
RB Jerick McKinnon
RB Matt Asiata
FB Zach Line

Wide Receivers (6) this is a solid set of WR's.. no WR1 that will make defences cry.. but a solid group that will benefit from the play of each other.
WR Mike Wallace
WR Charles Johnson
WR Jarius Wright
WR Adam Thielen
WR Cordarrelle Patterson
WR Stefon Diggs

Tight Ends (4) I really did believe we'd hold 4. Norv likes his TE's, and with this group he has 2 Great catching and 2 big road graters. can't wait to see many 2 TE sets!
TE Kyle Rudolph
TE Rhett Ellison
TE MyCole Pruitt
TE Chase Ford

Offensive Linemen (9) I thought yankey had done enouf. is he ps material? with BigLH out for the year. and Sully slighty injured.. i figured we'd keep a few extra. and Dad mentioned picking up 1 or 2 from around the league.
T Matt Kalil
G Brandon Fusco
C John Sullivan
G Mike Harris
T T.J. Clemmings
C Joe Berger
G Zac Kerin
G Austin Shepherd
G / T Jeremiah Sirles

Defensive Line (9) I saw this group, and think it's one of hte better depth and rotational setup we've had in a long while. with the potential to be very very dominating.
DE Everson Griffen
DT Sharrif Floyd
DT Linval Joseph
DE Brian Robison
DT Shamar Stephen
DT Tom Johnson
DE Danielle Hunter
DE Justin Trattou
DE Scott Crichton

Linebackers (6) - depth, and quality depth at that.. when's the last time we could say that about our lb group. robinson must have really impressed to have pushed mauti out the door.
LB Chad Greenway
LB Anthony Barr
LB Eric Kendricks
LB Gerald Hodges Jr.
LB Audie Cole
LB Edmond Robinson

Defensive Backs (9) only surprise for me is sherels.. i thought the combo of Adam/Diggs might push him out of the PR spot.. which.. would show why he's the low rung on the cb depth chart.
CB Xavier Rhodes
CB Terence Newman
CB Trae Waynes
CB Captain Munnerlyn
CB Marcus Sherels
S Harrison Smith
S Robert Blanton
S Andrew Sendejo
S Antone Exum Jr.

Specialists (3) nothing news worthy here, time for walsh's misfires to end though!
K Blair Walsh
P Jeff Locke
LS Kevin McDermott


all in all. i'm happy with the group that's listed, maybe a pick up from a ps or cut somewhere as an upgrade.. but it would have to be a solid upgrade, when is the PS set? is that tomorrow?

DiGiTaL

Leafman
09-06-2015, 10:59 AM
Yes, DiGiTal, waiver claims and practice squads are set today.

Agree with most of your comments, particularly on DLine and LB. One thing about WR ... there does not *appear* to be a WR1 on that list, but I believe Charles Johnson is a budding star. He will be a clear-cut WR1 by midseason.

LEAFMAN THE PURPLE FAN

Vikefanman2000
09-06-2015, 03:48 PM
This is the Vikings' practice squad.....9 of 10 spots filled
G, Isame Faciane
WR Isaac Fruechte
S Anthony Harris
LB Brian Peters
FB Blake Renaud
LB Brandon Watts
RB Dominique Williams
G, David Yankey
DE, B.J. Dubose
DL Zach Moore - 2014 draft pick of NE

digital420
09-06-2015, 04:48 PM
This is the Vikings' practice squad.....9 of 10 spots filled
G, Isame Faciane
WR Isaac Fruechte
S Anthony Harris
LB Brian Peters
FB Blake Renaud
LB Brandon Watts
RB Dominique Williams
G, David Yankey
DE, B.J. Dubose

These were mainly the guys i thought we'd pack away.. though i'm suprised they kept the FB.
I was figuring they'd want a few more extra olinemen, but it's kewl to see the UofM kid make it. and damn i'm happy DW made it and wasn't pulled somewhere else.. ie.. dallas or oakland.

good stuff! we seem to be really well stacked most positions. with oLine being our current weakness. I wonder if sherels is on till someone comes off the pup? seems to me he'd be the first axed or traded.. his special teams play is well noted, and could get us something from slickRick's dealings.

SKOOLL it's a new year with a lot of hope!!
DiGiTaL

snowinapril
09-06-2015, 09:02 PM
Amazing how true this is, Bucky Brooks hit the best players on the head. Waynes needs to step it up to be the player he is touted to be. Clemmings didn't get to red-shirt this season, thrown into duty. Forgot to say something about Hunter as part of the very athletic players drafted. Did you notice on Patterson's KO return for a TD who was out front with C-Pat, it was Hunter.


2) MINNESOTA VIKINGS: Mike Zimmer is quietly building a defensive juggernaut in Minnesota by collecting young, athletic defenders with speed, quickness and instincts. He added a couple of intriguing pieces to the unit with the selections of corner Trae Waynes and linebacker Eric Kendricks. Waynes, in particular, is a dynamic cover corner capable of snuffing out top receivers with his sticky playing style. He will team with Xavier Rhodes to give the Vikings a formidable cornerback tandem on the perimeter. T.J. Clemmings is an exceptional value pick for the Vikings. The 6-5, 309-pounder was viewed as a Round 1 talent for most of the process, yet found his way to the Vikings as a fourth-round selection. (There were concerns about a reported foot injury.) He is a perfect right tackle prospect and could work his way into the starting lineup in 2016 after a redshirt season. Keep an eye on receiver Stefon Diggs throughout the preseason. He was a fantastic playmaker at Maryland and could thrive in a multi-faceted role for the Vikings. GRADE: B+ (http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000491364/article/nfc-north-draft-grades-instant-impact-from-new-bears-regime)

Also, I wish we would have spent a 6th rounder next year to pick up Sio Moore. By the numbers, he is a tackling beast. To me it would have been worth it.

snowinapril
09-06-2015, 09:25 PM
Yes, DiGiTal, waiver claims and practice squads are set today.

Agree with most of your comments, particularly on DLine and LB. One thing about WR ... there does not *appear* to be a WR1 on that list, but I believe Charles Johnson is a budding star. He will be a clear-cut WR1 by midseason.

LEAFMAN THE PURPLE FAN

We will see how the rookie class looks this year for WRs. We could have taken Parker? Cooper is going to be a beast but he was already taken. The rest, we will have to see.

I really like Diggs though. I am not sure we need a true number one if Teddy gets the ball distributed to WRs, TEs and RBs evenly, that is possibly the best. I honestly do not know how C-Pat made the team, yes he can return kicks but at this point, that is all he can do. OK, I am being a little to hard on C-Pat but he just doesn't even look like he wants to be out there on the field, looks bored. But unless we plan on using him in gimmick plays like a RB, I would rather play Wallace, Johnson, Wright and Diggs before him as a WR. The guy should have blossomed as a WR this offseason.

I also would like to see Mycole Pruitt ahead of Ellison on the depth chart.

snowinapril
09-06-2015, 09:32 PM
Also, I guess we give Yankey one last try to make this team and hide him on the PS. He was supposed to be a star and he has fizzled for the most part. Doesn't have the strength is why he didn't even get on the field last year. Seems like he should have gotten there this off season???

digital420
09-07-2015, 03:25 AM
We will see how the rookie class looks this year for WRs. We could have taken Parker? Cooper is going to be a beast but he was already taken. The rest, we will have to see.

I really like Diggs though. I am not sure we need a true number one if Teddy gets the ball distributed to WRs, TEs and RBs evenly, that is possibly the best. I honestly do not know how C-Pat made the team, yes he can return kicks but at this point, that is all he can do. OK, I am being a little to hard on C-Pat but he just doesn't even look like he wants to be out there on the field, looks bored. But unless we plan on using him in gimmick plays like a RB, I would rather play Wallace, Johnson, Wright and Diggs before him as a WR. The guy should have blossomed as a WR this offseason.

I also would like to see Mycole Pruitt ahead of Ellison on the depth chart.
this is exactly what i'm hoping for! Teddy to distribute around, who needs a mega star WR, sure they are great and can cause havoc , but guys like xavier can shut him down..
when you have 4 guys spreading out your team. and AD crashing through you have to pick your poison. there is no dedicated wr.. and the play action takes on GREAT meaning with a QB who can distribute evenly across the board.

as for C-pat.. i would give the comparison to sherels (who i don't wish to see playing CB) but both are SPT key guys with cpat having the edge on what can be done in their respective positions. i'm not fully giving up on cpat. based on what Norv says, and i trust his judgement he has been working on his routes and separations. this could be the corner we were waiting for. especially that he will not be the focus, and be a rotational wr and kr.

all in all. i'm very excited to see the growth of the D, and the rise of the O.

SKOOOOOL

DiGiTaL

purplepat
09-07-2015, 07:55 AM
My prediction (barring some injury, of course) is that when Jabari Price comes off suspension in two weeks, C Zac Kerin is waived, clears waivers, and is signed to the practice squad. Berger can play C as well as Fusco, though Sullivan has been having back spasms and that could be an ongoing concern.

It will be awhile before the Vikings have to make a final call on Josh Robinson. He can start practicing with the team after Week 7, but they won't have to decide whether to activate him to the 53 man roster, put him on season ending IR, or cut him until a month after that. A lot can happen injury wise between now and then that would open up a roster spot for Josh. IMO the thing that really saved Sherels roster spot this year was his play as a gunner on punt coverage. I don't remember what kind of STer Robinson was, but do remember he is fast. Sherels job is probably safe until at least Robinson returns (if he returns at all this season). I think this is Robinson's final year of his rookie deal. He's not a great CB by any means, but he isn't chopped liver either. If Rick Spielman decides to ice him for the year so he can't put anything on tape for other teams to see, maybe there won't be a big free agent market for him and we can re-sign him as CB depth for a team friendly price.

MaxVike
09-07-2015, 05:06 PM
NFL QB cuts show just how far Vikings have come
Saturday was a symbolic day that perhaps best describes where the Vikings were at the end of the 2013 season and where they’re presumed to be heading in 2015.
By Mark Craig Star Tribune SEPTEMBER 7, 2015 — 6:59AM

Just 20 short months ago, we had Cassel, Ponder, and Freeman as our QB's. Today, they are all unemployed. Fortunately, we got AD back and we got us some Teddy. Skol Vikings!!!

http://www.startribune.com/leaguewide-qb-cuts-show-just-how-far-vikings-have-come/325176971/

digital420
09-07-2015, 06:09 PM
NFL QB cuts show just how far Vikings have come
Saturday was a symbolic day that perhaps best describes where the Vikings were at the end of the 2013 season and where they’re presumed to be heading in 2015.
By Mark Craig Star Tribune SEPTEMBER 7, 2015 — 6:59AM

Just 20 short months ago, we had Cassel, Ponder, and Freeman as our QB's. Today, they are all unemployed. Fortunately, we got AD back and we got us some Teddy. Skol Vikings!!!

http://www.startribune.com/leaguewide-qb-cuts-show-just-how-far-vikings-have-come/325176971/

funniest thing for this is that they all 3 got cut.... and joe webb made the panthers..

DiGiTaL

snowinapril
09-07-2015, 07:22 PM
NFL QB cuts show just how far Vikings have come
Saturday was a symbolic day that perhaps best describes where the Vikings were at the end of the 2013 season and where they’re presumed to be heading in 2015.
By Mark Craig Star Tribune SEPTEMBER 7, 2015 — 6:59AM

Just 20 short months ago, we had Cassel, Ponder, and Freeman as our QB's. Today, they are all unemployed. Fortunately, we got AD back and we got us some Teddy. Skol Vikings!!!

http://www.startribune.com/leaguewide-qb-cuts-show-just-how-far-vikings-have-come/325176971/

That does say a lot about those three QBs. LOL and T-Jack is still in......

I think that Heinecke is better than those 3 QBs and he is our 3rd QB. I am glad they stashed him on the PS. If something happened to TB I think this guy would be able to take over in a few years. That reminds me to give kudos to the Packers, the Rook from UCLA could be Rodgers air apparent. Back to our 3rd stringer, I like the zip he puts on the ball and he doesn't seem to be rattled and the game doesn't look too fast for him. Granted he wasn't playing against starting NFL talent but he was running a pro style offense.

snowinapril
09-07-2015, 07:29 PM
this is exactly what i'm hoping for! Teddy to distribute around, who needs a mega star WR, sure they are great and can cause havoc , but guys like xavier can shut him down..
when you have 4 guys spreading out your team. and AD crashing through you have to pick your poison. there is no dedicated wr.. and the play action takes on GREAT meaning with a QB who can distribute evenly across the board.

as for C-pat.. i would give the comparison to sherels (who i don't wish to see playing CB) but both are SPT key guys with cpat having the edge on what can be done in their respective positions. i'm not fully giving up on cpat. based on what Norv says, and i trust his judgement he has been working on his routes and separations. this could be the corner we were waiting for. especially that he will not be the focus, and be a rotational wr and kr.

all in all. i'm very excited to see the growth of the D, and the rise of the O.

SKOOOOOL

DiGiTaL

Is C-Pat in the last year of his rookie deal? I think this is a make it or break it year as a contributor on offense. Sherels has multiple positions on ST and on Def that he can fill in if necessary. If we have WRs that are better than him, then he is just a STer.

I also want to trust the coaching staff.

Watched another C-John interview on the team website and I like that guy. He sounds like a pro. Sounds like an intelligent person/player. Talking about studying for the upcoming game to prepare to do his best. He could be our #1 WR by season's end. We will see if he expands his role this season.

tarkenton10
09-08-2015, 01:43 PM
Is C-Pat in the last year of his rookie deal? I think this is a make it or break it year as a contributor on offense. Sherels has multiple positions on ST and on Def that he can fill in if necessary. If we have WRs that are better than him, then he is just a STer.

I also want to trust the coaching staff.

Watched another C-John interview on the team website and I like that guy. He sounds like a pro. Sounds like an intelligent person/player. Talking about studying for the upcoming game to prepare to do his best. He could be our #1 WR by season's end. We will see if he expands his role this season.

He is in his third year, so he has this year and next year on his rookie contract. He just has too much talent to get rid of him. I think they will keep him but if he doesn't play well, it will hurt his money on the next contract. Kinda like how long they held onto Webb, C-Pat has way more talent then he did, he will last at least two more years IMO!

snowinapril
09-09-2015, 10:05 PM
He is in his third year, so he has this year and next year on his rookie contract. He just has too much talent to get rid of him. I think they will keep him but if he doesn't play well, it will hurt his money on the next contract. Kinda like how long they held onto Webb, C-Pat has way more talent then he did, he will last at least two more years IMO!

I think that we are hoping he becomes trade bait for next year.

No matter how I look at it, I think he could be better than he is as a WR.

Contract:
http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/minnesota-vikings/cordarrelle-patterson/

thejck
09-10-2015, 01:36 PM
what are the chances that Charles Johnsons' great year as a WR was basically because he was an unknown and no one expected him to perform?

tarkenton10
09-11-2015, 11:15 AM
what are the chances that Charles Johnsons' great year as a WR was basically because he was an unknown and no one expected him to perform?

There are certain traits that make a good/great WR. You can see some in C-patt, that is why there is still hope for him. So if we break down what makes a WR good/great we will at least have an idea of what kind of success the player may have in the NFL. Traits of a WR in order from importance IMO is

1. Talent- you don't have to have Moss talent but you need a certain amount to succeed in this league.

2. Intelligence- the biggest intangible in deciding if the WR will make it in the league. (Wes Welker is a great example, while low on talent, he is very intelligent and KNOWS HOW TO GET OPEN)

3A. Good Hands - Troy Williamson nuff said.

3B. Route running- the NFL DBs are big, fast and smart also, if you want separation you need to run crisp routes and learn some moves to get separation.

4. Speed - Some may value speed more than route running but I point to many WRs that have great speed but crash and burn in the NFL. Speed does give you another advantage if are a good route runner.

5. Size - Size/speed ratio is mesmerizing to many GMs in this league

6. Body control- How many times do you hear the WR came down with the jump ball? how many times do you see them toe touching on the sidelines?

So when we look at Johnson how does he fair in the analysis? He is big 6' 3", I believe, and 217 lbs. he ran a sub 4.4 forty at the combine. From what I have seen he is a decent route runner and has the ability to free himself from coverage. I have seen some impressive catches last year so when you put that all together he has everything you want in a WR except intelligence, I am not sure what his wonderlic score was at the combine. I am not saying he isn't intelligent what I am saying is that I don't have the information to make an assessment on that part of the equation.

So if I was evaluating him I would be very optimistic that he can be a very good to great WR in the NFL. I believe he will run good routes, has great speed, good hands, great size/speed ratio and can catch well. Unless something drastic happens I think we got a steal and he will perform very well for us

thejck
09-11-2015, 01:36 PM
thanks

snowinapril
09-12-2015, 03:35 PM
There are certain traits that make a good/great WR. You can see some in C-patt, that is why there is still hope for him. So if we break down what makes a WR good/great we will at least have an idea of what kind of success the player may have in the NFL. Traits of a WR in order from importance IMO is

1. Talent- you don't have to have Moss talent but you need a certain amount to succeed in this league.

2. Intelligence- the biggest intangible in deciding if the WR will make it in the league. (Wes Welker is a great example, while low on talent, he is very intelligent and KNOWS HOW TO GET OPEN)

3A. Good Hands - Troy Williamson nuff said.

3B. Route running- the NFL DBs are big, fast and smart also, if you want separation you need to run crisp routes and learn some moves to get separation.

4. Speed - Some may value speed more than route running but I point to many WRs that have great speed but crash and burn in the NFL. Speed does give you another advantage if are a good route runner.

5. Size - Size/speed ratio is mesmerizing to many GMs in this league

6. Body control- How many times do you hear the WR came down with the jump ball? how many times do you see them toe touching on the sidelines?

So when we look at Johnson how does he fair in the analysis? He is big 6' 3", I believe, and 217 lbs. he ran a sub 4.4 forty at the combine. From what I have seen he is a decent route runner and has the ability to free himself from coverage. I have seen some impressive catches last year so when you put that all together he has everything you want in a WR except intelligence, I am not sure what his wonderlic score was at the combine. I am not saying he isn't intelligent what I am saying is that I don't have the information to make an assessment on that part of the equation.

So if I was evaluating him I would be very optimistic that he can be a very good to great WR in the NFL. I believe he will run good routes, has great speed, good hands, great size/speed ratio and can catch well. Unless something drastic happens I think we got a steal and he will perform very well for us

He hasn't demonstrated the Jump Ball scenario really but I don't think that is a criteria for a great WR. Jerry Rice has all the other aspects and he was on the same page as his QB and was intelligent enough to read D and get open as his QB expected him to do. Not comparing Johnson to Rice, but I am saying that Johnson does seem to get open and when he does, he is the only one to be able to catch the ball. He has good awareness of where he is at on the field and he has the strength and quickness to get off the line to be Teddy's target. Of all the WRs on this roster, I like CJ the best. Even though he didn't get to play the beginning part of the season, He did start the last 6 games. He did get to build rapport last year with Teddy and looked like the most reliable WR at the end of the season.

http://www.nfl.com/player/charlesjohnson/2541147/gamelogs?season=2014

I like his average of 15 yards per catch. That could go up with AP on the field.

The guy studies and he battled back from injuries, to me that is part of a good work ethic. He isn't owed anything, he is going to earn it.

tarkenton10
09-14-2015, 09:26 AM
He hasn't demonstrated the Jump Ball scenario really but I don't think that is a criteria for a great WR. Jerry Rice has all the other aspects and he was on the same page as his QB and was intelligent enough to read D and get open as his QB expected him to do. Not comparing Johnson to Rice, but I am saying that Johnson does seem to get open and when he does, he is the only one to be able to catch the ball. He has good awareness of where he is at on the field and he has the strength and quickness to get off the line to be Teddy's target. Of all the WRs on this roster, I like CJ the best. Even though he didn't get to play the beginning part of the season, He did start the last 6 games. He did get to build rapport last year with Teddy and looked like the most reliable WR at the end of the season.

http://www.nfl.com/player/charlesjohnson/2541147/gamelogs?season=2014

I like his average of 15 yards per catch. That could go up with AP on the field.

The guy studies and he battled back from injuries, to me that is part of a good work ethic. He isn't owed anything, he is going to earn it.

I think CJ is our best WR, he is the most well rounded WR, I even wondered why we went for Wallace. I thought he would have had a break out year without Wallace in the mix, it will be interesting to see who is the go to guy for TB by the season's end.