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VikesFan787
01-28-2014, 08:03 PM
JACKMACK28 1 hour ago on The Viking Age
As the season comes to an end and the off-season approaches, fan attention shifts from the season to the draft. As always, Mock Drafts are very popular during the offseason, however, the majority of mock drafts lack one very important aspect: It seems as tho 75% of mock drafts do NOT HAVE TRADES. This, in my opinion, is outrageous, because when has there ever been a draft without trades? If you are going to speculate on where players are going to be drafted, you might as well speculate on trades as well. In my first mock draft of the year, *I am going to predict that the Vikings will trade their 1st, 2nd, 4th, and 7th round picks in the 2014 NFL draft as well as their 2nd and 4th round picks in the 2015 NFL draft for the Ramís 2nd overall pick in the 2014 NFL draft. While this may seem like a lot, the numbers actually add up according to the Trade Value Chart that NFL teams use when determining the value of picks. The total comes to 2,583.4 points for the Vikings and 2,600 for the Rams. With that said, let the 2014 NFL (Mock) Draft Begin!

Jackson's 3 Round Vikings Mock Draft 1.0 - The Viking Age - A Minnesota Vikings Fan Site - News, Blogs, Opinion and more. (http://thevikingage.com/2014/01/28/jacksons-3-round-vikings-mock-draft/)

VikesFan787
01-28-2014, 08:06 PM
What would your reaction be if we did this?

Purple_Jesus
01-28-2014, 08:45 PM
I personally would be ecstatic. Any situation that gets us one of the top 3 QB's I would be happy with. Don't give up the farm, but another year with Cassel I think would be too much. AP doesn't have forever.. it's going to be a year or two buffer for whichever QB we pick up to come into their own anyway. Waiting for another QB to come around is stupid. We need one this year.

313zoe
01-28-2014, 09:08 PM
This mock draft is saying tha vikings will draft Teddy Bridgewater, and the Vikings will trade their 1st, 2nd, 4th, and 7th round picks in the 2014 NFL draft as well as their 2nd and 4th round picks in the 2015 NFL draft for the Ram’s 2nd overall pick in the 2014 NFL draft.

2beersTommy
01-28-2014, 09:14 PM
we have too many holes to fill to give picks like that away..fairy tale mock draft.

Ted Dibiase
01-28-2014, 09:16 PM
My reaction would be "Spielman better be right on this." I like Bridgewater by far most of all the QB's but damn that's a lot. If he steps in and provides an immediate upgrade it is worth it though. They better be ready to work some magic in free agency to fix the D if this happens.

kevoncox
01-28-2014, 09:48 PM
This would be a nightmare and we and the skins would have handed the Rams a dynasty.
Bridgewater - QB
Kyle Fuller - CB
Telvin Smith - OLB

Doesn't sound nearly as good to me as

Nix - DT - 1st
Jimmy Garoppolo - QB - 2nd
Pierre Desir -CB - 3rd
Stanley Jean-Baptiste-CB - 3rd

2beersTommy
01-28-2014, 10:07 PM
or this..

Minnesota Vikings Post Senior Bowl Off Season Plan and Mock Draft - Daily Norseman (http://www.dailynorseman.com/2014/1/27/5351348/minnesota-vikings-post-senior-bowl-off-season-plan-and-mock-draft)

313zoe
01-28-2014, 10:39 PM
We do have to many holes to fill to go all in on Bridgewater, I would rather wait til tha second round to draft a QB, whoever made this mock draft haven't seen our defense and draft Jimmy Garoppolo and let Turner groom him

purpledoom
01-29-2014, 10:46 AM
or this..

Minnesota Vikings Post Senior Bowl Off Season Plan and Mock Draft - Daily Norseman (http://www.dailynorseman.com/2014/1/27/5351348/minnesota-vikings-post-senior-bowl-off-season-plan-and-mock-draft)
I like this thought much more. I will admit I like JF more than Bridgewater. But for me it's just the idea of giving up all those picks for Bridgewater or JF for that matter, that's a big big risk.

drewlovs
01-29-2014, 01:20 PM
I do not feel like listening to yet ANOTHER team strut around with multiple super bowl rings due to a vikings trade!! This *could* work out, but if Bridgewater is mediocre, and the Rams due well with the picks we gave up, how is this not another Walker/Cowboys trade???

Please, PLEASE... for the love of GOD... NO!!!!

drewlovs
01-29-2014, 01:45 PM
THAT being said, this draft could be the most interesting for us in many years. Remember, the teams that will "absolutely draft all the worthy QBs" are also the teams that seem to make big mistakes, year after year, in the draft. Who KNOWS what they will do or pick?

The "Post Senior Bowl" article shows just this; nothing we think right now might be relevant when draft times comes.

I really like Manziel, because he is a firefly. YES, fireflies burn out much of the time, but some of them go big instead of going home, and THOSE guys go into the Hall of Fame. Just one time, I would like to see our team roll THOSE dice. Many of the 2nd and 3rd round "safe" QBs will still be on the board for our later picks if needed, and if Spielman and co. can take last year's magic into this year, we could get 3-4 solid hole-pluggers (take that how it is meant, and stay out of the gutter!!). If we can pick up Manziel plus 2-3 solid defensive players, the Vikings should be a force to be reckoned with.

Ted Dibiase
01-29-2014, 02:37 PM
I do not feel like listening to yet ANOTHER team strut around with multiple super bowl rings due to a vikings trade!! This *could* work out, but if Bridgewater is mediocre, and the Rams due well with the picks we gave up, how is this not another Walker/Cowboys trade???
Giving up two 2nd rounders, two 4ths, and a 7th is a risk to move up six spots at the top of the draft, but it doesn't even come close to Walker. If they REALLY think they have the right QB pegged, and they're positive he won't fall to 8, I hope they do it. I'd rather they do that than take whoever falls to them.

Purple Floyd
01-29-2014, 02:44 PM
There is no way bridgewater is worth that many picks to move up and get. If he were in any of the past several drafts he wouldn't be better than maybe the 3rd best in the draft. Manziel might not be any better. He at least has gone head to head with the top teams in the nation and was able to go toe to toe with them but that doesn't always translate either.

Ted Dibiase
01-29-2014, 03:03 PM
I'm not saying I'm an expert on these guys but I was impressed with TB's accuracy and that he doesn't look at all jittery under pressure. He seems the most ready to step in, and with AP's age that's a lot of what I think about. Granted I've only looked at highlights, not the stuff that the knocks come from. I've been happy with Spielman's last couple drafts so I'm sure I'll see glass half full whatever he does.

mountainviking
01-29-2014, 11:44 PM
That would be insanity. Trade that much away for an undersized QB from a smaller school and we're not even giving him a chance to succeed because of the plethora of other needs we have. We need a DT, 2 CBs, an OG, a LB and likely another DE too, not to mention a backup RB and some other depth improvements. And, the 2nd round is often full of top tier talent that is hungry to prove how they should of been firsts...HATE to give up two years of 2nds.

I like the move back draft much better. Give a young QB a decent Defense and a great RB and give the kid a chance.

purpledoom
01-30-2014, 09:20 AM
I would love see Manziel drafted by us, I mean love it. I also am really sick of the whole draft a qb later that is safer deal. The odds of one of them panning out are not good. All that being said, to give up several picks to move up makes me nervous as a cat in a rocking chair factory, you're mortgaging the future.

mountainviking
01-30-2014, 11:26 AM
I would love see Manziel drafted by us, I mean love it. I also am really sick of the whole draft a qb later that is safer deal. The odds of one of them panning out are not good. All that being said, to give up several picks to move up makes me nervous as a cat in a rocking chair factory, you're mortgaging the future.

IF Johnny Football happens to fall to no.8, I'm all for him. He is one hell of a slippery eel when it comes to evading pressure, does seem to have the natural gift of making big plays happen and does kind of remind me of Fran Tarkenton. He is a bit undersized perhaps, but does show the superior movement necessary to avoid at least some of the big hits coming his way. And, really, at 6'3" and 195 pounds, Bridgewater is an even thinner build than Manziel.

My point is, IF QB was the only major need we had, sure trade a bunch of picks to move up and get your guy, but the way I see it, we have so many holes that we can't afford to give up any of our early, rounds 1-3 picks unless we can move back first and stock pile a little. So, our best bet is to wait and hope that one of the top 3 QBs falls to 8, and if not, we grab a superstar defender and draft a QB or Two later.

This is one of my favorite mock sites: NFL Draft Mock 2014 | NFL Draft Mock Draft (http://www.drafttek.com/2014-NFL-Mock-Draft-Round1.asp)

Currently has us landing

1. Blake Bortles, of the top 3 QBs, the only one with true NFL size, speed and arm.
2. Aaron Donald, undersized DT, my bet is he goes in the first to a 3-4 team that needs a DE. I think there are better fits for our team available with this pick.
3. Chris Smith, DE, Arkansas...I hope we can keep EG or JA, but might need depth anyway.
3. Craig Loston, SS, LSU...tall rangy safety might make Smith more dangerous...?
4. De'Anthony Thomas, RB, Oregon...quick, shifty, but small (176 lbs) RB. They have Zach Mettenberger going 2 picks later, and I'd rather go that direction. Keep Cassel and draft 2 QBs and our chances of one working out well are roughly doubled!?! ;)

Besides, backup RBs aren't that hard to find. Zach Line might fill that role pretty well and he's already on the team.

vikesrgreat2
01-30-2014, 11:39 AM
IF Johnny Football happens to fall to no.8, I'm all for him. He is one hell of a slippery eel when it comes to evading pressure, does seem to have the natural gift of making big plays happen and does kind of remind me of Fran Tarkenton. He is a bit undersized perhaps, but does show the superior movement necessary to avoid at least some of the big hits coming his way. And, really, at 6'3" and 195 pounds, Bridgewater is an even thinner build than Manziel.

My point is, IF QB was the only major need we had, sure trade a bunch of picks to move up and get your guy, but the way I see it, we have so many holes that we can't afford to give up any of our early, rounds 1-3 picks unless we can move back first and stock pile a little. So, our best bet is to wait and hope that one of the top 3 QBs falls to 8, and if not, we grab a superstar defender and draft a QB or Two later.

This is one of my favorite mock sites: NFL Draft Mock 2014 | NFL Draft Mock Draft (http://www.drafttek.com/2014-NFL-Mock-Draft-Round1.asp)

Currently has us landing

1. Blake Bortles, of the top 3 QBs, the only one with true NFL size, speed and arm.
2. Aaron Donald, undersized DT, my bet is he goes in the first to a 3-4 team that needs a DE. I think there are better fits for our team available with this pick.
3. Chris Smith, DE, Arkansas...I hope we can keep EG or JA, but might need depth anyway.
3. Craig Loston, SS, LSU...tall rangy safety might make Smith more dangerous...?
4. De'Anthony Thomas, RB, Oregon...quick, shifty, but small (176 lbs) RB. They have Zach Mettenberger going 2 picks later, and I'd rather go that direction. Keep Cassel and draft 2 QBs and our chances of one working out well are roughly doubled!?! ;)

Besides, backup RBs aren't that hard to find. Zach Line might fill that role pretty well and he's already on the team.

I'm of the opinion that we need to draft a true blue-chip player with our first-round draft pick at #8. I don't think it's worth moving up in the draft for any player (though Clowney would be tempting if Jared Allen is on his way out). I feel that, if there are 3 QB's drafted before we pick at #8, the #8 pick should NOT be QB #4. Instead, it should be the best available defensive player to help our defense, which needs a lot of improvement.

Then, we can take our #40 pick in the second-round, trade up into the bottom 10 to 12 picks of the first round, and draft the best available QB there. ANY of the top 3-5 QB's at that point in the draft should be far better than any QB we have on the roster today, and (in my opinion) should be the starting QB from Day 1. Remaining picks + free agency should target the weak spots in our defense, OG (upgrade from Charlie Johnson), and RB depth.

Ted Dibiase
01-30-2014, 01:22 PM
I just think we're in a unique situation with AP being 29 next season and to justify keeping him we need to be thinking of trying to make a deep run within two years, as out there as that may seem. I've kind of changed my tune on what I want the Vikes to do in the draft because I really don't see Cassel taking us far...playoffs MAYBE. Any more than that would take a lights out defense, better than anything in the NFL this year. If we can somehow get great, not just solid, QB play, with an average but opportunistic defense, we could get there. A few pieces and a new coaching staff can turn a defense around pretty darn quick.

....so the way I see it, we can't beef the defense up with rookie talent and get the RIGHT QB (not the one dictated by draft position) unless A) We're lucky and he falls to us...or B) We outfox them all and get a diamond in the rough 2nd or 3rd round. We just don't have the picks. So if it costs two 2nds, two 4ths, and a 7th to jump six spots and get the guy that can step in right away and give us a real passing attack, it's worth it. And if they don't see that guy, I guess draft the one that makes sense and hope. Either way is a risk...and we know all too well the cost of missing on a franchise QB.

I know most disagree with me on Bridgewater being worth those picks...I just want to respond to the whole "undersized" thing. He's 6'3 and 215 or so. That's not too bad. Plus he's 21 so you got to think he'll bulk up, especially since he's aware of that criticism. And he's a pocket passer and the way they protect QB's now, I think he'll be fine. I could be wrong on the guy, but I do take some comfort knowing that Norv is probably handling the QB evaluation for the most part.

Ted Dibiase
01-30-2014, 01:37 PM
Maybe I was wrong on Teddy's size...I swear I read 6'3" 215 somewhere...now I'm reading a different one that says 6'2' 198. Yeah that is small. But still, 21 years old you gotta think he'll bulk up. I just like him because he seems to have by far the most refined game.

tarkenton10
01-30-2014, 03:20 PM
JACKMACK28 1 hour ago on The Viking Age
As the season comes to an end and the off-season approaches, fan attention shifts from the season to the draft. As always, Mock Drafts are very popular during the offseason, however, the majority of mock drafts lack one very important aspect: It seems as tho 75% of mock drafts do NOT HAVE TRADES. This, in my opinion, is outrageous, because when has there ever been a draft without trades? If you are going to speculate on where players are going to be drafted, you might as well speculate on trades as well. In my first mock draft of the year, *I am going to predict that the Vikings will trade their 1st, 2nd, 4th, and 7th round picks in the 2014 NFL draft as well as their 2nd and 4th round picks in the 2015 NFL draft for the Ramís 2nd overall pick in the 2014 NFL draft. While this may seem like a lot, the numbers actually add up according to the Trade Value Chart that NFL teams use when determining the value of picks. The total comes to 2,583.4 points for the Vikings and 2,600 for the Rams. With that said, let the 2014 NFL (Mock) Draft Begin!

Jackson's 3 Round Vikings Mock Draft 1.0 - The Viking Age - A Minnesota Vikings Fan Site - News, Blogs, Opinion and more. (http://thevikingage.com/2014/01/28/jacksons-3-round-vikings-mock-draft/)

I'm sorry but I am not enamored with Bridgewater to begin with let alone give the Rams all those picks. Your 3rd round pick is great the only problem is he will be a second round pick after the senior bowl and the combines which I think he will blow up. I say we stand pat and see if one of the top three falls to us or maybe trade with the Jags for much less.

313zoe
01-30-2014, 07:13 PM
Tha vikings should draft Anthony Barr, Khalil Mack, C.J. Mosely which ever one is available

VikesfaninWis
01-30-2014, 10:58 PM
No way the Vikes move up to draft Bridgewater. If they do, then Spielman better pray like hell it works out otherwise he will be looking for a new job.

If any of the top 3 guys are there at #8 then take one, if not, then draft BPA at a position of need. Hopefully they get it right.

drakkar
01-31-2014, 05:50 AM
this mock has panic written all over it, take BPA @8 or trade down and draft Carr..

313zoe
02-01-2014, 05:55 PM
Tha vikings wit that 8th pick will go defense and trading in tha 1st round like they did to get Smith to get a QB