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thorshammer
12-15-2013, 05:18 PM
We finally looked like the team I thought we would look like at the start of the season today. The whole team played well and finished strong. Too bad it took the coaching staff so long to figure things out. We actually have some pretty talented receivers. Too little to late from this coaching staff.

marstc09
12-15-2013, 05:23 PM
It is pretty simple what is different here.

battleaxe4cheese
12-15-2013, 06:19 PM
It is pretty simple what is different here.


You ain't a kidding. A real quarterback? Who would of thought.

Suick
12-15-2013, 06:29 PM
Cassel looked like a pro bowler against a good defense. Good enough to draft a non-QB 1st round?

That is the question

marstc09
12-15-2013, 06:34 PM
Matt Asiata set a team record for most rushing attempts in a game vs. the Eagles. Wow.

marstc09
12-15-2013, 06:35 PM
Asiata scored his first career rushing touchdown and set a team record for most rushing touchdowns in a game vs. the Eagles. Wow.

marstc09
12-15-2013, 06:38 PM
Matt Cassel set a team record for most passing yards in a game vs. the Eagles.
1) 382 Matt Cassel, 12/15/2013
2) 343 Daunte Culpepper, 9/20/2004

marstc09
12-15-2013, 06:39 PM
Jennings set a team record for most receiving yards in a game vs. the Eagles.
1) 163 Greg Jennings, 12/15/2013
2) 151 Cris Carter, 10/15/1990

MaxVike
12-15-2013, 07:20 PM
I am in Viking heaven right now. I live 40 minutes south of Philly...my Eagles fan friends are silent as lambs!

PurplePowerPunch
12-15-2013, 07:22 PM
Cassel should've been starting here week 1.

PurplePowerPunch
12-15-2013, 07:23 PM
I am in Viking heaven right now. I live 40 minutes south of Philly...my Eagles fan friends are silent as lambs!

Congrats guy!

Mark_The_Viking
12-16-2013, 04:43 AM
Great game for both fans and neutrals alike. Not too many penalties and the backups played like 1st teamers for the most part, good to have Smith back even if he did look a little rusty.

Glad to hear Frazier et al are off and we will have a new HC for next season, I expect the appointment will come early and it wont surprise me if its a college coach. No on ne has mentioned the owner of the worlds smallest play card yet.

I do hope Musgrave follows Frazier out of the door and we get a guy with some passion and fire. Overall I was really happy with the way we played, holding their running game to a season low and burning them for close to 400 yds passing.

I think we keep Cassel now and get a QB late 1st or 2nd along with a line backer and offensive tackle? or replacement or Jared Allen?

purplehelmut
12-16-2013, 08:49 AM
Boils down to sharp play from the qb which keeps the defense out of bad situations. Took this bozo coaching staff long enough to figure it out. Ponder can't carry Cassel's jock in a bucket.

Suick
12-16-2013, 10:41 AM
Who was that team in purple out there yesterday at the Metrodome and what did you do with my beloved Vikings!!!

i_bleed_purple
12-16-2013, 11:24 AM
Wow, Did not expect to see 48 points put up, the most since 1998.

Glad to see the "Turnover Machine" (as a certain somebody refers to him) was effective again today, with over 350 yards and 3 tds. The interception was a batted pass, so not DIRECTLY due to a poor decision or throw.

Ratings:

QB: A- Pretty darn good. First 300+ passer in quite a while. He showed poise in the pocket, confidence in this throws, and the courage to stand in and take a hit or run the ball. It's obvious who the best QB on this team is.

RB: B- You can't be too hard on Asiata, a 3rd string who never sees the field is asked to start. He didn't have a terribly strong game between the 20s, but I give him credit on making the most of his goal line carries. 3TDs is pretty good no matter who you are.

TE: C+ A few nice catches by Ford, but with our top two TEs out, you expect some drop off, which happened. Glad to see the backups didn't make costly mistakes (Ahem.. ellison) to cost us points. THey made catches when needed, didn't fumble or have penalties. Overall a not bad outing

OL: B- Amazing what a confident QB will do for an OL. From a technical standpoint, we didn't play any better on the OL than we had throughout the year, but Cassel did a significantly better job of knowing where to go with the ball, only running if he was actually out of time. He had an awareness of the pocket, and was ususally able to escape pressure. A couple sacks, one he darn near brok out of.

WR: A a Damn fine game by Jennings. Like they say, the guys is open (Despite what Ponder tells the media), we just need to get him the ball. Well thrown balls got him 150+ yards. Wright had some very nice grabs, as did Patterson and Simpson. Too bad Patterson couldn't come down with that ball in the endzone. He had it, but the DB did a great job of ripping his hands apart.

DL: A- Not bad at all. They were solid in containing Lesean, pressured Foles to making some poor throws. Add a few sacks in there, and they had a decent game.

LB: B+ A not bad game. Got beat a few times, the long Jackson run was brutal (fortunately the reverse got called back), and he took a screen way longer than he should have. Outside of Desean, they tackled fairly well, and covered decently.

DB: D+ We're really depleted at corner. It's tough to be too hard, when our starters consist of Prater (Who?) and Robert Blanton in Nickel formations. When we need a backup safety to play corner, we're hurting. We got toasted for almost 400 yards as usual, with almost 200 yards to Desean Jackson alone. THe pick was nice, but it would be nicer to not give up 30 points every game. With Robinson on IR now, only Xavier can help us.

Coaching: B Coaches actually coached fairly well. Got back into old habits at times, but like someone here mentioned, without AP, Musgrave had to get creative with the ball. He wasn't nearly as predictable with where the ball was going. If only we could get this musgrave the other 15 weeks.

idahovikefan7
12-16-2013, 11:29 AM
I bet we'd be pushing for a playoff spot had Cassel been the starter all year...

Not that I'm crowning Cassel as a great QB. The Vikes just need a decent quarterback that wont go out and lose them games. Make the short simple passes consistently and hit a deep ball here and there. Something Ponder isn't capable of.

Suick
12-16-2013, 11:35 AM
I bet we'd be pushing for a playoff spot had Cassel been the starter all year....

I'd go along with this if our secondary was:

1. Healthy all year
2. Not a bunch of retards

VikingsFan1234
12-16-2013, 11:40 AM
I bet we'd be pushing for a playoff spot had Cassel been the starter all year...

Not that I'm crowning Cassel as a great QB. The Vikes just need a decent quarterback that wont go out and lose them games. Make the short simple passes consistently and hit a deep ball here and there. Something Ponder isn't capable of.

No we would have not made the playoffs with Cassel starting all year because our defense chokes away leads at the last second and lose

i_bleed_purple
12-16-2013, 11:58 AM
No we would have not made the playoffs with Cassel starting all year because our defense chokes away leads at the last second and lose

Unless we can score points early and often so our D can't choke away games like we did yesterday!

VikingsFan1234
12-16-2013, 11:59 AM
Unless we can score points early and often so our D can't choke away games like we did yesterday!

True!

rockymtdan
12-16-2013, 12:04 PM
Long passing game was new, watching the ball go over the head of the dump rout and land in the hands of one of our guys up field.
Who where those guys in our secondary?
Pass blocking seemed to get a bit better as well. And the most impressive thing was a 4 minute drive the put game away, NICE,

mountainviking
12-16-2013, 01:36 PM
Actually, the Eagles defense is durn near as bas as ours, 3rd worst total yards allowed per game and 2nd worst in passing yards allowed. They haven't allowed as many points as us, likely because their offense get first downs much more regularly than ours...and the fact that our TO differential is 7th worst while theirs is 7th best.

But, Cassell did play one hell of a game. His passes were accurate and arrived timely and with plenty of zip. That big throw after shrugging off pressure and stepping forward in the pocket was a beautiful thing!

Our receiving core suddenly looked not only competent, but deep and dangerous. And, without the benefit of our best two RBs and TEs on the field!?!

The defense looked really good early, but did give up plenty in the 2nd half. Desean Jackson pretty much one man ganged my fantasy football team's season into the dirt yesterday, thanks for not adjusting the defense to cover their one friggin WR coaches!?!!! :mad:

Seriously, tho, seems obvious now: Cassell is our best QB. He doesn't have a high completion percentage, but he does have a high per completion yardage, and that can fit nicely into what Peterson can do in the short game. We keep the Cassell, drop the other fools, and draft another QB kinda early....even if we bring in another vet!

SKOL VIKINGS!!!

PInfante97
12-16-2013, 02:49 PM
we even suck at losing for draft position... Matt Cassel is not our QB of the future

tastywaves
12-16-2013, 04:00 PM
Nice game by Cassell and Jennings.

3rd string RB, 3rd string TE and 1st/2nd/3rd string QB depending on the week and we put out are best offensive showing of the year.

Even more impressive, we start an entirely new set of corner backs (Prater, Sherels, and Blanton) and we hold down one of the more impressive offenses until late in the game where it's written that we are not allowed to play defense (something we have in common with Dallas). Prater plays one game as a starter and now has more INT's than Cook in his entire career. 2 sacks a piece by JA and Robison and we double Foles' INT totals for the year.

I'm expecting the same level of performance for the last two games...anybody else?

Suick
12-16-2013, 07:26 PM
Nice game by Cassell and Jennings.

3rd string RB, 3rd string TE and 1st/2nd/3rd string QB depending on the week and we put out are best offensive showing of the year.

Even more impressive, we start an entirely new set of corner backs (Prater, Sherels, and Blanton) and we hold down one of the more impressive offenses until late in the game where it's written that we are not allowed to play defense (something we have in common with Dallas). Prater plays one game as a starter and now has more INT's than Cook in his entire career. 2 sacks a piece by JA and Robison and we double Foles' INT totals for the year.

I'm expecting the same level of performance for the last two games...anybody else?

No way we play that well outside, on the road, at Cincinasty, who are coming off an ass kicking on the road.

How-ev-uh................

I do expect a good showing for the last game at MOA.

i_bleed_purple
12-16-2013, 08:21 PM
No way we play that well outside, on the road, at Cincinasty, who are coming off a ass kicking on the road.


In case you didn't notice, we played pretty darn well in the snow in Baltimore.

snowinapril
12-16-2013, 11:51 PM
I am in Viking heaven right now. I live 40 minutes south of Philly...my Eagles fan friends are silent as lambs!

Hopefully they were running there mouths all week, that makes the quiet all that much better.

tastywaves
12-17-2013, 11:26 AM
I bet we'd be pushing for a playoff spot had Cassel been the starter all year...

Not that I'm crowning Cassel as a great QB. The Vikes just need a decent quarterback that wont go out and lose them games. Make the short simple passes consistently and hit a deep ball here and there. Something Ponder isn't capable of.

Maybe a little help from the defense as well.

Lions lose NFC North lead, clear way for Bears, Packers - NFL.com (http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000299942/article/lions-lose-nfc-north-lead-clear-way-for-bears-packers)

Minnesota Vikings (4-9)
It seems crazy to consider, but if NFL games were only 59 minutes long the Vikings would be 9-5, leading the division. The Vikings have lost the lead in the final minute of play five times this season -- including lost that wacky game against the Baltimore Ravens in which they scored the go-ahead touchdown with 45 second remaining (the snap took place with 1:01 remaining in regulation).

If the Vikings had figured out how to close out games, we'd be discussing Minnesota going to a second consecutive playoffs instead of the temperature under Leslie Frazier's behind.

mountainviking
12-17-2013, 11:54 AM
Maybe a little help from the defense as well.

Lions lose NFC North lead, clear way for Bears, Packers - NFL.com (http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000299942/article/lions-lose-nfc-north-lead-clear-way-for-bears-packers)

Wow. Funny huh. And last year we won how many last minute games!? Lots I seem to recall...

We're good enough to compete, but not quite good enough to dominate or control a full 60 minutes. Not too far off really, IF we get the right coaching staff to coach up our youth and call a bit better game.

Hell, I think we might just win out this season. The Steelers just destroyed the Bengals and the Lions still just can't help themselves. That would push us all the way back to middle of the draft. D'oh! ;)

i_bleed_purple
12-17-2013, 09:12 PM
Maybe a little help from the defense as well.


CHeck out this link:
Tuesday (The Vikings have a top-10 offense) edition: Wha' Happened? | RandBall | StarTribune.com (http://www.startribune.com/sports/blogs/236207451.html)

Long story short, Cassel gives our offense an extra six offensive points per game over Ponder. This doesn't include defensive/ST touchdowns. With an extra six points every game with him as our starter, we're sitting at 8-5 right now and leading the North.

snowinapril
12-18-2013, 12:33 AM
CHeck out this link:
Tuesday (The Vikings have a top-10 offense) edition: Wha' Happened? | RandBall | StarTribune.com (http://www.startribune.com/sports/blogs/236207451.html)

Long story short, Cassel gives our offense an extra six offensive points per game over Ponder. This doesn't include defensive/ST touchdowns. With an extra six points every game with him as our starter, we're sitting at 8-5 right now and leading the North.

I would like to know how the time of possession coincides with the defense sucking so much. The defense looked ok when we were scoring vs the Eagles and keeping the defense off the field.

Just a thought. I wonder if that is consistent all season. So the games the defense really sucked like the article implies.

tastywaves
12-18-2013, 07:00 AM
CHeck out this link:
Tuesday (The Vikings have a top-10 offense) edition: Wha' Happened? | RandBall | StarTribune.com (http://www.startribune.com/sports/blogs/236207451.html)

Long story short, Cassel gives our offense an extra six offensive points per game over Ponder. This doesn't include defensive/ST touchdowns. With an extra six points every game with him as our starter, we're sitting at 8-5 right now and leading the North.

I would like to know how the time of possession coincides with the defense sucking so much. The defense looked ok when we were scoring vs the Eagles and keeping the defense off the field.

Just a thought. I wonder if that is consistent all season. So the games the defense really sucked like the article implies.

They gave up 30 points to the eEagles where they had just over 23 minutes with the ball. Sounds like they were pretty much on par. But yes, keeping our defense off the field is a good strategy.

tastywaves
12-18-2013, 07:07 AM
Maybe a little help from the defense as well.


CHeck out this link:
Tuesday (The Vikings have a top-10 offense) edition: Wha' Happened? | RandBall | StarTribune.com (http://www.startribune.com/sports/blogs/236207451.html)

Long story short, Cassel gives our offense an extra six offensive points per game over Ponder. This doesn't include defensive/ST touchdowns. With an extra six points every game with him as our starter, we're sitting at 8-5 right now and leading the North.

We have been putting up a lot of points this year, unfortunately, giving up a lot more.

Cassel does get more production out of our offense. He should have two more games to show he's worth keeping.

purplehelmut
12-18-2013, 09:11 AM
Coaching, Ponder, and defense are our weaknesses. Although the defense has been nicked up quite a bit. All three of these are fixable in the short term.