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Culpepper_4717
08-19-2013, 07:25 PM
Rookie first-round draft pick Sharrif Floyd is expected to miss the rest of the preseason because of a "minor procedure" on his left knee, Vikings coach Leslie Frazier said after practice today.

Floyd has `minor procedure' on left knee | Access Vikings | StarTribune.com (http://www.startribune.com/sports/vikings/blogs/220262091.html)

Purple Floyd
08-19-2013, 08:52 PM
Damnit

singersp
08-20-2013, 07:05 AM
So if the MRI showed nothing, why did he undergo surgery? To fix nothing?

Vikings' Sharrif Floyd's MRI showed no damage to knee

Vikings' Sharrif Floyd's MRI showed no damage to knee - NFL.com (http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000228984/article/vikings-sharrif-floyds-mri-showed-no-damage-to-knee)

Purple Floyd
08-20-2013, 07:09 AM
They said procedure not specifically surgery.more than likely either a cortisone or a rooster comb injection.

NodakPaul
08-20-2013, 07:17 AM
So if the MRI showed nothing, why did he undergo surgery? To fix nothing?

Vikings' Sharrif Floyd's MRI showed no damage to knee

Vikings' Sharrif Floyd's MRI showed no damage to knee - NFL.com (http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000228984/article/vikings-sharrif-floyds-mri-showed-no-damage-to-knee)

It isn't surgery.


Frazier said the procedure wasn't arthroscopic surgery. He said it was just a minor procedure to ease the pain at the front of the knee. Floyd hurt the knee in the preseason opener on Aug. 8.

It is more likely something to address pain and swelling, like corticosteroid injections, or supplementing the lubrication fluids in the knee. Both are injections directly into the joint, and would probably keep someone out the remaining week and a half of preseason.

EDIT: PF beat me to it while I was reading other posts.

singersp
08-20-2013, 07:05 PM
They said procedure not specifically surgery.

It isn't surgery.

Huh, I wonder where I could have possibly gotten the "he had an operation/surgery" idea from?

Vikings say Floyd surgery 'nothing major'

Shariff Floyd has knee operation - ESPN.com

Vikings' Sharrif Floyd has minor knee surgery | National Football Post

Vikings' rookie Shariff Floyd undergoes minor knee surgery

Floyd Has 'Minor' Knee Operation, Lacey Released - Vikings

Vikings' rookie Shariff Floyd undergoes minor knee surgery ...

Vikings News Bulletin: Peterson to play and Floyd has surgery

Sharrif Floyd Will Miss Rest of Preseason After Surgery

Purple Floyd
08-20-2013, 09:03 PM
Huh, I wonder where I could have possibly gotten the "he had an operation/surgery" idea from?

Vikings say Floyd surgery 'nothing major'

Shariff Floyd has knee operation - ESPN.com

Vikings' Sharrif Floyd has minor knee surgery | National Football Post

Vikings' rookie Shariff Floyd undergoes minor knee surgery

Floyd Has 'Minor' Knee Operation, Lacey Released - Vikings

Vikings' rookie Shariff Floyd undergoes minor knee surgery ...

Vikings News Bulletin: Peterson to play and Floyd has surgery

Sharrif Floyd Will Miss Rest of Preseason After Surgery
link?

seriously i looked around right away and saw nothing that specifically said surgery but later thing did pop up but i think it was people just re posting speculation to get web hits. if you read the original statement there is nothing that says surgery.

but if you wish i can throw out a tweet saying he had an emergency exorcism and we can see what that gets spun into.

singersp
08-21-2013, 07:53 AM
link?

seriously i looked around right away and saw nothing that specifically said surgery but later thing did pop up but i think it was people just re posting speculation to get web hits. if you read the original statement there is nothing that says surgery.

but if you wish i can throw out a tweet saying he had an emergency exorcism and we can see what that gets spun into.


Yeah, Vikings.com, ESPN, FOX, etc. They were just posting speculation. Can't trust what you read on Vikings.com, ESPN or FOX sports.

Floyd Has 'Minor' Knee Operation, Lacey Released (http://www.vikings.com/news/article-1/Floyd-Has-Minor-Knee-Operation-Lacey-Released/5e7cea54-89dc-44b9-ac43-17dd32d615bb)

Vikings say Sharrif Floyd surgery 'nothing major' - ESPN (http://espn.go.com/blog/nfcnorth/post/_/id/59742/sharrif-floyd-has-minor-knee-procedure)

Vikings' rookie Shariff Floyd undergoes minor knee surgery (http://www.foxsportsnorth.com/nfl/minnesota-vikings/story/Vikings-rookie-Shariff-Floyd-undergoes-m?blockID=930803)

vikinggreg
08-21-2013, 08:16 AM
Yeah, Vikings.com, ESPN, FOX, etc. They were just posting speculation. Can't trust what you read on Vikings.com, ESPN or FOX sports.

Floyd Has 'Minor' Knee Operation, Lacey Released (http://www.vikings.com/news/article-1/Floyd-Has-Minor-Knee-Operation-Lacey-Released/5e7cea54-89dc-44b9-ac43-17dd32d615bb)

Vikings say Sharrif Floyd surgery 'nothing major' - ESPN (http://espn.go.com/blog/nfcnorth/post/_/id/59742/sharrif-floyd-has-minor-knee-procedure)

Vikings' rookie Shariff Floyd undergoes minor knee surgery (http://www.foxsportsnorth.com/nfl/minnesota-vikings/story/Vikings-rookie-Shariff-Floyd-undergoes-m?blockID=930803)And out of those 3 in the actual write up surgery is mentioned 2 or 3 times in each or is it more like once in the last one.... and that would be Fox...own by Rupert Murdoch, isn't he the Saint of Truth and Fairness. Not that any of that really matters Floyd's had more preseason action than Peterson and should be back in a week or 2 so I'd chalk it up to panty wadding over nothing at this point. Pretty sure the Vikings or Steelers aren't gassing coaches or GM over the first 2 weeks or even 3rd of the preseason and the Bills and Browns aren't printing their playoff tickets yet

jargomcfargo
08-21-2013, 05:53 PM
And out of those 3 in the actual write up surgery is mentioned 2 or 3 times in each or is it more like once in the last one.... and that would be Fox...own by Rupert Murdoch, isn't he the Saint of Truth and Fairness. Not that any of that really matters Floyd's had more preseason action than Peterson and should be back in a week or 2 so I'd chalk it up to panty wadding over nothing at this point. Pretty sure the Vikings or Steelers aren't gassing coaches or GM over the first 2 weeks or even 3rd of the preseason and the Bills and Browns aren't printing their playoff tickets yet
Swelling of the knee after the Buffalo game despite previous normal MRI, led to Floyd missing the next practice and undergoing a procedure to relieve pain in the anterior knee.
The most likely procedure would be draining fluid from the knee and injecting cortisone after the fluid is drained.
Resting Floyd's knee for one week would be standard. An additional week of rest before the regular season would seem prudent, though I expect he will be at practice the week before the opener.
However, should the knee swell again, they may want to take another look with a repeat MRI. MRI's are fantastic, but occasionally miss things.
If the knee is sound, Floyd is going to be one of the defensive studs this year, from what I've seen.

Purple Floyd
08-21-2013, 06:35 PM
Swelling of the knee after the Buffalo game despite previous normal MRI, led to Floyd missing the next practice and undergoing a procedure to relieve pain in the anterior knee.
The most likely procedure would be draining fluid from the knee and injecting cortisone after the fluid is drained.
Resting Floyd's knee for one week would be standard. An additional week of rest before the regular season would seem prudent, though I expect he will be at practice the week before the opener.
However, should the knee swell again, they may want to take another look with a repeat MRI. MRI's are fantastic, but occasionally miss things.
If the knee is sound, Floyd is going to be one of the defensive studs this year, from what I've seen.


The question will remain what was it that caused the fluid in the knee to begin with. Was it just from a bump that caused some sort of inflammation or is this a sign that there is something damaged in there that was missed?

I know that when I tore my ACL, MCL and Meniscus in high school there was swelling initially but I have never had any fluid buildups that had had to be drained. Even after the repair failed and the ligament was torn and wore away and with a few decades of cartilage damage from running around without it I have never had a swelling problem. OTOH a good friend tore his ACL around the same time and went with the replacement cadaver repair and he was constantly having to have the knee drained but I believe his repair held up over time. it seems to me that fluids generally don't build up unless there is something wrong to trigger the body to release them. Is a general contusion enough to cause that?

jargomcfargo
08-21-2013, 11:05 PM
The question will remain what was it that caused the fluid in the knee to begin with. Was it just from a bump that caused some sort of inflammation or is this a sign that there is something damaged in there that was missed?

I know that when I tore my ACL, MCL and Meniscus in high school there was swelling initially but I have never had any fluid buildups that had had to be drained. Even after the repair failed and the ligament was torn and wore away and with a few decades of cartilage damage from running around without it I have never had a swelling problem. OTOH a good friend tore his ACL around the same time and went with the replacement cadaver repair and he was constantly having to have the knee drained but I believe his repair held up over time. it seems to me that fluids generally don't build up unless there is something wrong to trigger the body to release them. Is a general contusion enough to cause that?
The question is whether the swelling is within the joint capsule or something like a bursa sack swelling, which occurs outside the joint. One could be a problem, the other shouldn't.
Inflammation or bleeding cause swelling.
If the meniscus is intact, he should be fine.