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NodakPaul
05-27-2013, 09:50 AM
OK, so I started two polls regarding the matte finish on the new helmet as well as the new number font. They can be found here:

Do you like the new number font on the new Vikings Jerseys? (http://poll.pollcode.com/x26hc)

Do you like the matte finish on the new Vikings Helmets? (http://poll.pollcode.com/acjz7)

I put them in pollcode so they could be shared outside of PP.O. Feel free to share these links - I am curious about the general feelings regarding the helmet and fonts.

For reference, here are some pics.

http://helmetgame.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/minnesota-vikings-new-2013-2014-nike-football-helmet-jersey-4478-687x458.jpg

http://helmetgame.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/New-2013-Nike-Minnesota-Vikings-Football-Uniforms-purple-jersey-9-687x454.jpg

HEY
05-28-2013, 07:53 AM
The poll is missing the option of "love/like/dislike/hate the font, don't care that there are two different types".

I was going to vote for like.... but I want to wait until I see the full uniform on the field during the first game of the year. I believe that only then will I be able to get the real feel for it. However, so far I like the look.

Formo
05-28-2013, 03:16 PM
Yeah, I agree with HEY. I'm honestly 'Meh' on the fonts. I think on some number combinations the serif from the first number works really well with the second (like AP's 2 and 8). But when the second number is a straight edge number (like a 1), the serif looks awkward.

C Mac D
05-28-2013, 03:40 PM
I'm totally fine with the new uniforms, actually like them a lot... even the fonts. Just want football to begin already.

HEY
05-28-2013, 04:08 PM
Yeah, I agree with HEY. I'm honestly 'Meh' on the fonts. I think on some number combinations the serif from the first number works really well with the second (like AP's 2 and 8). But when the second number is a straight edge number (like a 1), the serif looks awkward.
Yes, that's what I also thought when I first saw the picture of all the Vikings' first round picks together. I'm looking forward to see all the players.

Purple Floyd
05-29-2013, 12:35 PM
Considering this is probably just hardcore fans voting it looks like the font was a mistake and the helmet is more than average favorable but if it is just Vikings fans voting I would expect positive to overwhelm negative if it was done right.

jargomcfargo
05-29-2013, 02:02 PM
Where is the ' Worrying about what the team wears is a waste of time' option ?
Good thing it weren't up to me or they would be wearing purple bib overalls and the cheerleaders, halter tops and hot pants !

tastywaves
05-29-2013, 02:18 PM
Where is the ' Worrying about what the team wears is a waste of time' option ?
Good thing it weren't up to me or they would be wearing purple bib overalls and the cheerleaders, halter tops and hot pants !

Change that to tube tops and you get my vote.

I'm sure Loadholt would appreciate those extra buckles.

Purple Floyd
05-29-2013, 05:17 PM
Where is the ' Worrying about what the team wears is a waste of time' option ?
Good thing it weren't up to me or they would be wearing purple bib overalls and the cheerleaders, halter tops and hot pants !

Probably locked away with the "I don't care where they play" option for those who could watch them play in a pole shed and have just as much fun because it is the candy they enjoy and not the wrapper. :rofl:

jargomcfargo
05-29-2013, 05:23 PM
Probably locked away with the "I don't care where they play" option for those who could watch them play in a pole shed and have just as much fun because it is the candy they enjoy and not the wrapper. :rofl:
They play in a pole barn now, and I like it just fine, thank you !

Reignman
05-29-2013, 05:56 PM
Yeah, I agree with HEY. I'm honestly 'Meh' on the fonts. I think on some number combinations the serif from the first number works really well with the second (like AP's 2 and 8). But when the second number is a straight edge number (like a 1), the serif looks awkward.It also looks awkward when both numbers are the same too, like 22, 33, etc.

http://lp.imageg.net/prod?set=key[name],value[SANFORD]&set=key[number],value[33]&set=key[displaysize],value[500]&load=url[http://chains.imageg.net/graphics/dynamic/chains/pNFL-15564847_customback.chain]

And 11 just looks wrong.

http://lp.imageg.net/prod?set=key[name],value[BURTON]&set=key[number],value[11]&set=key[displaysize],value[500]&load=url[http://chains.imageg.net/graphics/dynamic/chains/pNFL-15564847_customback.chain]

84 looks like a disaster.

http://lp.imageg.net/prod?set=key[name],value[PATTERSON]&set=key[number],value[84]&set=key[displaysize],value[500]&load=url[http://chains.imageg.net/graphics/dynamic/chains/pNFL-15564847_customback.chain]

It seems like the jersey numbers only look good if the 2nd number has rounded edges.

As far as the helmets go, I like the matte finish, but I don't understand the black facemask. I mean it looks nice and matches the horn outline, but we don't have black anywhere else on the uniform so it looks kinda odd. I think they should have add a thin black outline around the names/numbers, and maybe added a thin black stripe between the white and yellow stripes (like the helmet horn).

Purple Floyd
05-29-2013, 06:04 PM
It also looks awkward when both numbers are the same too, like 22, 33, etc.

http://lp.imageg.net/prod?set=key[name],value[SANFORD]&set=key[number],value[33]&set=key[displaysize],value[500]&load=url[http://chains.imageg.net/graphics/dynamic/chains/pNFL-15564847_customback.chain]

And 11 just looks wrong.

http://lp.imageg.net/prod?set=key[name],value[BURTON]&set=key[number],value[11]&set=key[displaysize],value[500]&load=url[http://chains.imageg.net/graphics/dynamic/chains/pNFL-15564847_customback.chain]

84 looks like a disaster.

http://lp.imageg.net/prod?set=key[name],value[PATTERSON]&set=key[number],value[84]&set=key[displaysize],value[500]&load=url[http://chains.imageg.net/graphics/dynamic/chains/pNFL-15564847_customback.chain]

It seems like the jersey numbers only look good if the 2nd number has rounded edges.

As far as the helmets go, I like the matte finish, but I don't understand the black facemask. I mean it looks nice and matches the horn outline, but we don't have black anywhere else on the uniform so it looks kinda odd. I think they should have add a thin black outline around the names/numbers, and maybe added a thin black stripe between the white and yellow stripes (like the helmet horn).

Yep, except for when the second number is like a 2 or 8 the rest of it just looks wrong.

I wonder if the approval was given based on them using peterson's 28 jersey where it actually looks like there may be a rhyme or reason for it without having any other number combinations displayed because if any person looks at that 84 for instance and thinks it makes sense you would have to question their judgement.

Reignman
05-29-2013, 06:08 PM
if any person looks at that 84 for instance and thinks it makes sense you would have to question their judgement.My thoughts exactly, seeing 84 should have put an end to this plan. Almost looks like a backward "B" with a 4. I think they dropped the ball with this font.

Purple Floyd
05-29-2013, 06:14 PM
That is what I think of every time i see that 8- that it looks like a backwards B.

Couldn't they have at least rounded the left edges of the second letters or something to make it blend? I have a feeling that there will be lots of beer thrown on people wearing those jerseys. Could just as well have sewn a pocket protector in the front and put some duct tape around the mid bar of the facemask.

Culpepper_4717
05-29-2013, 07:26 PM
You guys really seem to care a lot about some pieces of fabric that grown men will be wearing.. Just move on and accept the stupid jerseys already, it's just a jersey. And in all honesty they look a lot better in action, and not simply a front-on mannequin view.
http://i.imgur.com/LZZ5hBo.jpg

Culpepper_4717
05-29-2013, 07:29 PM
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y294/tohasbo/2013%20NFL/MinnesotaNumbers_zps3d6ce898.png

Minniman
05-29-2013, 08:32 PM
You guys really seem to care a lot about some pieces of fabric that grown men will be wearing.. Just move on and accept the stupid jerseys already, it's just a jersey.
If you would rather not talk about the uniforms, just ignore the topics.

It is the off-season, and the uniforms are new. One would expect comment.


And in all honesty they look a lot better in action, and not simply a front-on mannequin view.
They look cheap. The matte helmet, goofy stripes, and unmatched fonts look amateurish. Packers and Bears fans must be laughing it up.

Culpepper_4717
05-29-2013, 10:10 PM
If you would rather not talk about the uniforms, just ignore the topics.

It is the off-season, and the uniforms are new. One would expect comment.
I've actually posted a plethora of times about them in another topic. They've been out for like over a month and some of you are still complaining, but it is what it is I guess..



They look cheap. The matte helmet, goofy stripes, and unmatched fonts look amateurish. Packers and Bears fans must be laughing it up.
Those bastards.. How dare they make fun of our sewn on stripes. Cause we all know nothing says high quality and professionalism like screen printed stripes on your jerseys....

NodakPaul
05-30-2013, 08:37 AM
They look cheap. The matte helmet, goofy stripes, and unmatched fonts look amateurish. Packers and Bears fans must be laughing it up.

Doubt the Packers and Bears fans are giving more than a passing thought. You seem to have the most negative reaction by far.

Poll doesn't have a lot of responses yet, but overall it looks like the matte helmets are getting a positive response by a pretty significant margin, and the font is generally negative although a much closer margin (only 2 votes separate like/love and dislike/hate). The choice of two different fonts is overwhelmingly negative.

So pretty much what I was expecting and have been saying. Overall a positive response, with the exception of the fonts.

Formo
05-30-2013, 04:37 PM
They look cheap. The matte helmet, goofy stripes, and unmatched fonts look amateurish. Packers and Bears fans must be laughing it up.

More like traditional. Which is what Packers/Bears fans are accustomed to. The fans I've talked to like these more than last years, mostly because of the same reasoning.. The sidepanels/piping are a far worse look than any 'amateur' look.

Minniman
05-30-2013, 11:08 PM
More like traditional. Which is what Packers/Bears fans are accustomed to. The fans I've talked to like these more than last years, mostly because of the same reasoning.. The sidepanels/piping are a far worse look than any 'amateur' look.
Packers fans resisted a big change in their uniforms years ago. Bears and Steelers have had only minimum changes in their modern uniforms. The Vikings went to the Broncos pajamas look a few years ago, and now they are going with the college matte helmet fad and some strange font for the sake of change. Wilf should know better than to mess with tradition; that's almost as bad as messin' with Sasquatch.

There are things I like about the new uniforms - like the leg stripes, but the Vikings look like an expansion team, and that is not good for a team that has been in the NFL for a half century.

Purple Floyd
05-31-2013, 06:58 AM
Well Minnman I would normally agree with your sentiment about messing with Tradition but as noted in the other thread if our tradition consists of near misses, shoulda dones, and unfulfilled expectations then just maybe a big change is in order. Although the font sucks.

It wasn't until the Bucs had a drastic uni change that they finally got their stuff together and won a SB. In 1996 the Broncos traded in the orange crush for the current uni's and won the next 2 SB's after losing 4.

So a big change can sometimes be a good thing for a team. All I can say is at least they didn't do what the Jags did. Holy cow.

singersp
05-31-2013, 07:21 AM
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y294/tohasbo/2013%20NFL/MinnesotaNumbers_zps3d6ce898.png

Is that "99" or "g9"? :P

Reignman
05-31-2013, 09:19 PM
All I can say is at least they didn't do what the Jags did. Holy cow.Lol I gotta agree with you there. Man those helmets are just awful and make me want to vomit. Most Jag fans seem to approve of them though. I think they need to have their eyes examined.


Is that "99" or "g9"? :PB4 and now g9, I guess we can call it the bingo font.

Minniman
06-03-2013, 09:26 AM
Well Minnman I would normally agree with your sentiment about messing with Tradition but as noted in the other thread if our tradition consists of near misses, shoulda dones, and unfulfilled expectations then just maybe a big change is in order. Although the font sucks.
Wilf tried that with the pajamas, and it did not work. Changes in uniforms don't really make a difference; changes in players and coaches do. Sometimes, the changes come at a similar time, and people believe there is a connection that just is not there. People also believe in astrology and palm reading for the same reason.


It wasn't until the Bucs had a drastic uni change that they finally got their stuff together and won a SB. In 1996 the Broncos traded in the orange crush for the current uni's and won the next 2 SB's after losing 4.
The uniforms did not do that.

The Broncos helmet and colors were better, but the pajamas stripes looked awful. The Bucs went with pewter pants that made it look like the linemen all crapped their pants when they sweated in the butt crack. That was no upgrade; plus, the original Bucs logo was just too cool to replace with a generic pirate flag.


So a big change can sometimes be a good thing for a team. All I can say is at least they didn't do what the Jags did. Holy cow.
The big change that came was in players and coaches. The Packers and Steelers have resisted change, and they have won many Superbowls. By your logic, they should have been left in the dust by teams with fantastic new duds. It is faulty logic.

That does not mean that some uniform changes are not good, it just means that there is no statistical evidence to suggest that changes create winners.

In the Vikings case, Wilf purchased a team that had one of the best ranked uniforms in the NFL by polls of pundits and fans. He messed with it, and it was worse. This was an opportunity to go traditional, and some designer could not resist the trendy matte helmet, funky fonts, and multi-sized stripes. Vikings fans see this new uniform through purple colored glasses just as Jacksonville fans generally like their new ugly uniforms. The Vikings' uniforms are not as bad as the Jags, but the Vikings' uniforms could have been better.

Of course, this is all opinion, but it my opinion that the Vikings should not look like a college team on the field, especially considering they will be playing in a college stadium for two seasons.

Reignman
06-03-2013, 04:49 PM
Changes in uniforms don't really make a difference; changes in players and coaches do. Sometimes, the changes come at a similar time, and people believe there is a connection that just is not there. People also believe in astrology and palm reading for the same reason.Come on now, you can't tell me some good free agents haven't passed up the Buccs because of those creamsicle uniforms haha. Bo Jackson said he didn't want to play for the Yucks because they screwed up his college eligibility at Auburn, but I think it had more to do with him not wanting to be caught dead wearing those atrocious uniforms xD.

Minniman
06-06-2013, 01:11 PM
Come on now, you can't tell me some good free agents haven't passed up the Buccs because of those creamsicle uniforms haha. Bo Jackson said he didn't want to play for the Yucks because they screwed up his college eligibility at Auburn, but I think it had more to do with him not wanting to be caught dead wearing those atrocious uniforms xD.
Pooper, I mean pewter, was not an improvement. I did like the color change from orange to red.

The Bucs had a great logo, and they exchanged it for a Pirates of the Caribbean flag. If the Vikings changed their logo from the Norseman to a flag, I would not be happy.

In any case, a change in uniform does little to improve a team. It is illogical thinking.