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HEY
01-12-2013, 03:19 PM
The Minnesota Vikings needs to upgrade their roster of wide receivers. Any fan of the Vikings will agree on that. The fans are thankful to have Percy Harvin. I strongly believe that there does not exist a team with a more exciting and explosive duo as Adrian Peterson and Percy Harvin. Harvin is like a more versatile mini-AD. He's a unique player in the NFL and when healthy he can be in MVP-discussions. Not only because he's Vikings number one receiver, but also the team's second best running back and a one of the league's most dangerous returners as well.

The issue is: there's Harvin... then there's the rest.

The drop of in the level of talent is too great to compete with the top passing offenses in the NFL. Plus, Harvin is not a natural outside receiver. The Vikes have excellent depth at the slot position with one of the best in the game, Percy Harvin, and a young newcomer in Jarious Wright. With Percy Harvin healthy, the Vikings can compete with the best, but with Harvin out, Ponder can not to the job by himself (Wright is good, but he's no Percy Harvin) and Ponder needs good receivers around him if we are going to make another run at the Super Bowl.

So... without further ado, I compiled a list of the top 5 wide receivers this off-season that will become Unrestricted Free Agents in order of who I think will contribute the most for the Vikings. Funny thing: flip this list and you will get the best players out of the five (except from Bowe, he is right after Jennings) but here I will focus on who fits the team the most, that also includes the youth profile the Vikings have.

5. Wes Welker - Best slot receiver... maybe ever. Problem is: we need someone on the outside and a highly accurate QB to take full advantage of him. 31 years old.

4. Greg Jennings - I've always liked him (for a Packer) and he's been one of the best in the game for a long time. He doesn't have any big flaws. 29 years old.

3. Brian Hartline - Eclipsed 1000 yards this season. Has good size and speed and is just 26 years old.

2. Mike Wallace - A true deep threat who is known as one of the fastest players in the league, and like Hartline, just 26 years old.

1. Dawyne Bowe - A playmaker. Got excellent size and is one of the best outside receivers, but not one of the most reliable guys with most questionable character out of the top 5. Still in his prime at 28 years old.

vikinggreg
01-12-2013, 04:13 PM
Hartline and Wallace are the 2 guys I'm leaning toward, Hartline seems to have a good relationship with the fins and Tannehill and the fins have lots of capspace which leads me to think he'll stay there and get his payday. Steelers are 10 mill over so there is a better chance of getting him especially if he hasn't seen much of our game tapes from last season other than AD big runs.:rolleyes:

kevoncox
01-12-2013, 07:25 PM
Hartline and Wallace are the 2 guys I'm leaning toward, Hartline seems to have a good relationship with the fins and Tannehill and the fins have lots of capspace which leads me to think he'll stay there and get his payday. Steelers are 10 mill over so there is a better chance of getting him especially if he hasn't seen much of our game tapes from last season other than AD big runs.:rolleyes:

Say no to hartline...
Jennings is our target

vikinggreg
01-12-2013, 07:56 PM
Say no to hartline...
Jennings is our target

I think with the 40 mill in cap space the fins have and Joe Philbin they'll go after both Hartline and Jennings

Tad7
01-12-2013, 08:15 PM
Jennings would be my first choice.

My only concern with that is who he's had throwing to him. Great QB's make good receivers look very good. Big downgrade here.

Welker is the only one from that list that doesn't interest me at all.

i_bleed_purple
01-12-2013, 09:37 PM
Jennings is my pick.

He would be perfect for what we need. He doesn't fit any one specific mold, he's a guy who can play all the positions on the field. Line him up wide, and he can play big like a guy who's 6'2". PLay him inside, and he's a more than acceptable slot. PLay him as split End, let him take on the jam, play him as flanker, it doesn't matter. He can do it all. He's fast, he's got moves in the open field, most importantly, he's got hands. Yes, Having Favre and Rodgers helps, but I've seen Jennings bail Rodgers and Favre out of more bad throws than anybody. Yes, he's no CJ1.9K, but nobody expects that. If a balls a bit inaccurate, Jennings can make a play on it, despite being a relatively little guy. He probably runs the best post-corner in the game.

Out of everybody else, look at the options:

Bowe. Has been inconsistent, partially due to QB play, but partially due to conentration and effort
Wallace: One trick pony. Think Berrian 2.0. Fastest guy in the league, but we don't have a guy who can a) throw it so far only one guy can possibly chase it, or b) hit him perfectly in stride so that he can use his speed for the yac. He would be wasted here.
Hartline: If I said his name last year, you'd say "WHO!?" NO thanks. We need a proven threat, not a chance player.

Purple Floyd
01-12-2013, 10:34 PM
I would rather draft a few guys than overspend to get Jennings who is still like the 4th best WR on the Packers roster.

Think about it. They have 3 guys better than him and we are asking to make him out top guy.

kevoncox
01-12-2013, 10:46 PM
I would rather draft a few guys than overspend to get Jennings who is still like the 4th best WR on the Packers roster.

Think about it. They have 3 guys better than him and we are asking to make him out top guy.

He actually isn't. I will give you 2nd...but if you think he isn't better than Cobb and Jones... you're not watching closely enough.

The reason they might not resign him is because they can't keep everyone.

Purple Floyd
01-13-2013, 09:45 AM
Yes, Cobb and Jones are better than him. Did you watch the game last night where he went Simpson on that pass from ARod?

No way would it be smart to overpay to bring him in. I think the team has overspent enough on WRs that don't pan out over the last 8 years.

singersp
01-13-2013, 09:56 AM
We need more than 1, but the poll allows you to pick only one.

Purple Floyd
01-13-2013, 10:29 AM
We have Wright and if wearing Harvin then one more is probably what we can expect.

Plus a few more TEs

Mr Anderson
01-13-2013, 10:51 AM
Bowe is more versatile than Wallace, as he can run vertical routes and make tough catches throughout the route tree due to his size and strength. He's also benefited less than everyone, save Hartline, from his QBs, though Tannehill didn't look bad this season.

Welker is quick, obviously runs great routes and is very reliable. But he can't make things happen on his own, hugely benefits from his QB and the pieces around him who threaten the defense vertically. He's old too, and short.


I think Bowe would be the best choice.

singersp
01-13-2013, 10:52 AM
We have Wright and if wearing Harvin then one more is probably what we can expect.

Plus a few more TEs

If Spielman decides to keep Harvin, I hope sure as hell hope he gives Harvin a new contract before FA. If he doesn't and only assumes he still be able to keep Harvin under his rookie contract, I can see Spielman sticking with Wright, Harvin & Simpson, rely on being able to pick up a WR in the draft without moving up huge to take one, waiting to see how Childs, Burton & Summers progress & watch idly as the top FA WR's get signed elsewhere. Then when TC rolls around & the FA WR pool is dried up, Harvin demands a trade because he didn't get a new contract & sits out.

Purple Floyd
01-13-2013, 11:57 AM
I am expecting them to deal with Harvin before the draft by either getting him a new contract or trading him.

We should be able to get a mid first for him plus a developmental player.

HEY
01-13-2013, 11:58 AM
Greg Jennings is Green Bay's best receiver, but I have to say all those guys are really good and they don't exaggerate when they say that they have the best wide receiver group in the NFL.

James Jones has always been inconsistent, but showed tremendous potential. This season he finally got it together and if he continues like this into the next season he is the Packers best receiver.

Jordy Nelson is great and had his breakthrough season last year. Was plagued by injuries this season.

Cobb is great, but is in the same mold as Percy Harvin. Not a true outside receiver.

Donald Driver is old and will retire.

jargomcfargo
01-13-2013, 01:11 PM
Spielman will not pick up any big name free agents. He will grab someone cheap out of the leftover bin of free agency.
He said as much in his press conference.

Purple Floyd
01-13-2013, 02:15 PM
James Jones has always been inconsistent, but showed tremendous potential. This season he finally got it together and if he continues like this into the next season he is the Packers best receiver.Yep. He is outplaying Jennings.


Jordy Nelson is great and had his breakthrough season last year. Was plagued by injuries this season.
And Jennings isn't? How many games have each missed this year?



Cobb is great, but is in the same mold as Percy Harvin. Not a true outside receiver.

Jennings is also a slot type or Z WR and not an outside "X" guy like most of the Vikings fans want. Wallace would fit that mold. I just want them to do a better job drafting WR's and not keep overpaying in FA for guys that really don't give the team what they need.

drakkar
01-13-2013, 03:12 PM
Wallace would be nice to get the Def to play back.. give wright & harvin some wiggle room to make more plays out of the short passes.

mountainviking
01-13-2013, 03:52 PM
Wallace would be nice to get the Def to play back.. give wright & harvin some wiggle room to make more plays out of the short passes.

Jennings has been hurt for most of the past 2 or 3 years...giving him a fat contract would scare the hell out of me. I think he's going to sign in Miami with Hartline and his old buddy that used to work in GB, Philbin. I'd bet Bowe stays in KC, cuz Reid likes to pass too much.

That pretty much leaves Wallace. Sure, he's a one trick pony, but it happens to be the one we need most. And, hopefully, he got a dose of humility this season and won't be asking for astronomical salary numbers. Still, I'm pretty sure somebody will pay him more than we're willing.

I think we might have to draft 2.

singersp
01-14-2013, 06:38 AM
Jordy Nelson is great and had his breakthrough season last year. Was plagued by injuries this season.



He would never get away with all those push offs if he was a Viking.

tarkenton10
01-14-2013, 10:10 AM
The Minnesota Vikings needs to upgrade their roster of wide receivers. Any fan of the Vikings will agree on that. The fans are thankful to have Percy Harvin. I strongly believe that there does not exist a team with a more exciting and explosive duo as Adrian Peterson and Percy Harvin. Harvin is like a more versatile mini-AD. He's a unique player in the NFL and when healthy he can be in MVP-discussions. Not only because he's Vikings number one receiver, but also the team's second best running back and a one of the league's most dangerous returners as well.

The issue is: there's Harvin... then there's the rest.

The drop of in the level of talent is too great to compete with the top passing offenses in the NFL. Plus, Harvin is not a natural outside receiver. The Vikes have excellent depth at the slot position with one of the best in the game, Percy Harvin, and a young newcomer in Jarious Wright. With Percy Harvin healthy, the Vikings can compete with the best, but with Harvin out, Ponder can not to the job by himself (Wright is good, but he's no Percy Harvin) and Ponder needs good receivers around him if we are going to make another run at the Super Bowl.

So... without further ado, I compiled a list of the top 5 wide receivers this off-season that will become Unrestricted Free Agents in order of who I think will contribute the most for the Vikings. Funny thing: flip this list and you will get the best players out of the five (except from Bowe, he is right after Jennings) but here I will focus on who fits the team the most, that also includes the youth profile the Vikings have.

5. Wes Welker - Best slot receiver... maybe ever. Problem is: we need someone on the outside and a highly accurate QB to take full advantage of him. 31 years old.

4. Greg Jennings - I've always liked him (for a Packer) and he's been one of the best in the game for a long time. He doesn't have any big flaws. 29 years old.

3. Brian Hartline - Eclipsed 1000 yards this season. Has good size and speed and is just 26 years old.

2. Mike Wallace - A true deep threat who is known as one of the fastest players in the league, and like Hartline, just 26 years old.

1. Dawyne Bowe - A playmaker. Got excellent size and is one of the best outside receivers, but not one of the most reliable guys with most questionable character out of the top 5. Still in his prime at 28 years old.

Jennings and Welker are both best suited for the slot. So are you going to trade PH, if so then I like Jennings, if not, then I wouldn't want either of them.

I would try to get Wallace as long as he doesn't want a huge guarenteed money contract.

VKG4LFE
01-14-2013, 11:52 PM
Go get Bowe. Jennings is a cheesed!ck douche.

midgensa
01-15-2013, 12:37 AM
Fuck it ... we got the money. Jennings and Bowe. Then we are all set. Maybe draft a guy and only take Bowe since Jennings is always dinged up ...

But either of those guys would be very good.

snowinapril
01-15-2013, 01:54 AM
Does Bowe fit into our offense? Wallace for that matter too?

Wes would fit in I think.

Jenning knows out system and has proven to flourish in it.

Does it matter with out QB?

We haven't had much of any run after the catch why is that? Is it QB, system or guys bobbling the ball? This run after the catch problem has been consistent for years.

singersp
01-15-2013, 05:39 AM
Jennings and Welker are both best suited for the slot. So are you going to trade PH, if so then I like Jennings, if not, then I wouldn't want either of them.


I agree with that. It doesn't make sense to sign a bunch of slot receivers and not have any deep threat receivers. Is Wright supposed to be more of a deep threat receiver or a slot receiver? I would think it's the latter due to his size.

Either way you slice it, we need to know what will happen with Harvin prior to FA. If we know we have to replace prior to FA, we can sign a FA player. If we don't know until TC, then we'll pass on signing a replacement for him in FA & may end up having to try & do it when TC rolls around if at that time he wants out.

Trading him in July doesn't do us any good in 2013 as FA will have dried up & the draft is long over.

singersp
01-15-2013, 05:45 AM
We haven't had much of any run after the catch why is that? Is it QB, system or guys bobbling the ball? This run after the catch problem has been consistent for years.

We've had a lot of YAC with Harvin in there. I think there;s more YAC than you think especially on bubble passes. With Jenning & Aromashodu, not so much. Other times when we don't get any, it seems like our receivers need to stop before Ponder will throw to them rather than him trying to hit a moving target. Other times our receivers are just to slow and get tackled almost immediately, even if they are hit on the fly.

More than half way thru the season, Ponder's average pass thru the air was just over 5 yards. With that kind of average, you don't get that kind of yardage without something decent for YAC.

With that said though, we'd certainly get a lot more if he could hit receivers in stride more often.

Jarlvik
01-15-2013, 06:44 AM
Well said.