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MorrisCaliborne
04-25-2012, 01:36 PM
Could the New York Jets Trade Up to No. 3 in the NFL Draft for Trent Richardson? | Bleacher Report (http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1159945-could-the-new-york-jets-trade-up-to-3-in-the-nfl-draft-for-trent-richardson)

As bad as I want Morris, I would take the trade in a heartbeat.....but who would we draft at #16 though?

NodakPaul
04-25-2012, 01:39 PM
Very unlikely. The price they would have to pay to move up from #16 to #3 would be prohibitive. We're talking multiple firsts, seconds, and thirds here in order to make it worth our while.

MorrisCaliborne
04-25-2012, 01:40 PM
Very unlikely. The price they would have to pay to move up from #16 to #3 would be prohibitive. We're talking multiple firsts, seconds, and thirds here in order to make it worth our while.

But the Vikings need a Herschel Walker trade! :punch:

tastywaves
04-25-2012, 03:15 PM
Better yet, play them against Cleveland and try to get them to bite on switching positions along with trading their #22 for our #35.

Cleveland probably won't bite, but I think Spielman is trying.

Johnson14
04-25-2012, 04:15 PM
Very unlikely. The price they would have to pay to move up from #16 to #3 would be prohibitive. We're talking multiple firsts, seconds, and thirds here in order to make it worth our while.

+1

I honestly do not see a trade happening, the world and his wife knows we're taking Kalil, despite ricky's best effort to create some smokescreen.

PackSux!
04-25-2012, 05:12 PM
I thought the jets liked Shaun Green? I dont see that trade happening at all. Smoke is being blown up somebody's ass.

battleaxe4cheese
04-25-2012, 05:25 PM
Spielman is the worst poker player ever. Is there anything this guy is good at ?

Marrdro
04-25-2012, 07:27 PM
Very unlikely. The price they would have to pay to move up from #16 to #3 would be prohibitive. We're talking multiple firsts, seconds, and thirds here in order to make it worth our while.

Lets do the math....

New York Jets:
1-16=1000
2-15=430
3-14=200
5-19=32.6
6-17 from Philadelphia via Indianapolis
6-33 (compensatory) - No points cant trade them
6-34 (compensatory) - No points cant trade them
7-25 from Denver=4.6
7-35 (compensatory) - No points cant trade them
7-37 (compensatory) - No points cant trade them
Total 1667.2

Vikes
1-3 = 2200

Hmmm, don't usually do math in public but I gotta agree NP, no way in hell this ever happens.

In the end, there is alot of crap going around like this, but if you really look at it close, it might sound cool, but its still just crap.

Marrdro
04-25-2012, 07:30 PM
Spielman is the worst poker player ever. Is there anything this guy is good at ?
I don't know my friend. I have to give him an A for trying. Heck, I will give him a A+ if he actually pulls it off.

In the end, what is he losing? Team is dominating the draft press (owner loves that)/(most of the fans are eating it up that their team is dominating the draft press). If he pulls it off he has another 2nd or at least a 3rd rounder and they will still gets Kalil.

TNViking
04-25-2012, 09:38 PM
Our only real hope is that Tampa thinks the Jets trade is possible and Tampa trades with us to get Richardson. Don't think it will happen but when a team REALLY wants someone they can sometimes go to unusual lengths to guarantee they get them. Let's hope Tampa REALLY REALLY wants Richardson.

kevoncox
04-26-2012, 01:26 AM
If this trade is real and we do end up with the 16th pick, I would look to take Decastro if he is still there.

We should then have,
2 first in 2013

2 seconds 2012
2 thirds in 2012
3 fourths in 2012

Not even Speilman can fuck this up. I would look to trade our Early 4th for a 2nd next year.
I would take Jeffery at the top of the 2nd.

I envision our season going rather poorly and we having a top 3 pick. Add that to the Jets being horrible and I expect to see them with a top 10pick next season. Enough for us to pick up Robert Woods (WR) and D.J. Fluker (OT).

Fluker - Deastro - Sully - RG - Loadholt = a great line
Harvin - Woods - Jeffery - Jenkins = A great WR Corp.

singersp
04-26-2012, 05:33 AM
Spielman is the worst poker player ever. Is there anything this guy is good at ?

1 year contracts?

singersp
04-26-2012, 05:41 AM
Be realistic folks, the 3rd pick is not worth multiple first round picks, plus multiple second rounders, plus multiple third rounders.

Purple Floyd
04-26-2012, 06:37 AM
Be realistic folks, the 3rd pick is not worth multiple first round picks, plus multiple second rounders, plus multiple third rounders.
The way many people have pumped up the impact Kalil will have he sure seems to be worth it. My guess is there are at least 10 teams on the phone with Rick tonight offering at least what Atlanta gave last year for Jones so they can move up and get a LT that can protect their QB's blind side for a decade.

i would say we aould get calls from Buffalo, San Diego, Green Bay, Detroit,Chicago, St Louis, Washington ( Would be players not picks) Carolina, Arizona,Seattle, and maybe even a few others. A player of that value will bring a kings ransom.

marshallvike
04-26-2012, 07:29 AM
Be realistic folks, the 3rd pick is not worth multiple first round picks, plus multiple second rounders, plus multiple third rounders.

I would hope Spielmillen would not drop back from 3 to 16 with only an extra 2nd and 3rd. They would certainly have to add a 1st next year to make it happen. So that puts us rright about where Kevon has us in picks. That said, I don't see it happening anyway. Word on ESPN this morning was that a Jets official gave it a 0.0% chance. The asking price was too high.
I wouldn't be too happy with Spiel anyway if he dropped back that far. The only concession for a horrid year like we had is getting to pick a supposed can't miss prospect in the draft. You don't get that at 16.

marshallvike
04-26-2012, 07:43 AM
Lets do the math....

New York Jets:
1-16=1000
2-15=430
3-14=200
5-19=32.6
6-17 from Philadelphia via Indianapolis
6-33 (compensatory) - No points cant trade them
6-34 (compensatory) - No points cant trade them
7-25 from Denver=4.6
7-35 (compensatory) - No points cant trade them
7-37 (compensatory) - No points cant trade them
Total 1667.2

Vikes
1-3 = 2200

Hmmm, don't usually do math in public but I gotta agree NP, no way in hell this ever happens.

In the end, there is alot of crap going around like this, but if you really look at it close, it might sound cool, but its still just crap.

Maybe so Marty, but the more this talk of the Jets trying to jump Cleveland for the rights to Richardson, the better for us. Perhaps it would entice Cleveland to give us a third or possibly a second to move up one spot. We still get our guy.
Hopeful.

NodakPaul
04-26-2012, 07:59 AM
Spielman is the worst poker player ever. Is there anything this guy is good at ?

This didn't necessarily come from Spielman... There are so many teams blowing smoke right now it could have come from anywhere. And it is bleacher report... so it could have just been a drunken Jets fan.

12purplepride28
04-26-2012, 08:18 AM
I don't know my friend. I have to give him an A for trying. Heck, I will give him a A+ if he actually pulls it off.

In the end, what is he losing? Team is dominating the draft press (owner loves that)/(most of the fans are eating it up that their team is dominating the draft press). If he pulls it off he has another 2nd or at least a 3rd rounder and they will still gets Kalil.

Yah I gotta agree with you Marr. I think Spielman has done as good of a job as anyone could expect. I've been impressed so far. I don't mind the one year deals as much as some people do. If they do great (unlikely) then we'll offer them a better contract next year and if we can get 1-2 players to sign them then that makes this a successful FA. If they are garbage then let them walk and sign someone in next years FA when we are a little closer to being a competitor and fill the rest with the draft.

C Mac D
04-26-2012, 09:08 AM
Sal Palintonio is reporting there is zero-point-zero percent chance of this trade happening.

Trent Richardson - College Player - 2012 Player Profile - Rotoworld.com (http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/7462/trent-richardson)

tastywaves
04-26-2012, 09:42 AM
I would hope Spielmillen would not drop back from 3 to 16 with only an extra 2nd and 3rd. They would certainly have to add a 1st next year to make it happen. So that puts us rright about where Kevon has us in picks. That said, I don't see it happening anyway. Word on ESPN this morning was that a Jets official gave it a 0.0% chance. The asking price was too high.
I wouldn't be too happy with Spiel anyway if he dropped back that far. The only concession for a horrid year like we had is getting to pick a supposed can't miss prospect in the draft. You don't get that at 16.

Agreed. Volume is overrated, quality is more important.

tastywaves
04-26-2012, 09:47 AM
Maybe so Marty, but the more this talk of the Jets trying to jump Cleveland for the rights to Richardson, the better for us. Perhaps it would entice Cleveland to give us a third or possibly a second to move up one spot. We still get our guy.
Hopeful.

We can hope. This would be the best case scenario IMO. Although I doubt Holmgren will allow it even if he perceives the Jets threat of moving as real.

Tampa could really gain by having Richardson in their backfield as well, but they will have to jump Cleveland to get him. Sorry LeGarrete.

Marrdro
04-26-2012, 06:31 PM
Maybe so Marty, but the more this talk of the Jets trying to jump Cleveland for the rights to Richardson, the better for us. Perhaps it would entice Cleveland to give us a third or possibly a second to move up one spot. We still get our guy.
Hopeful.
Someone do the math on how much it took to move up one spot. LOL, I am not going to say one bad thing about our new GM ever again.

Fact of the matter is, he got Holmgren (EXPUKER) to puke up a butt load of picks. That impresses me.

(Marrdro can be seen with his chest out and I love Spielman T-shirt on).....:bow: