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MorrisCaliborne
04-17-2012, 02:53 PM
Round 1:

Cornerback Morris Caliborne Lousiana State

Round 2:

Wide Receiver Ryan Broyles Oklahoma Sooners

Round 3:

Free safety Aaron Henry Wisconsin

Round 4:

Defensive tackle Mike Martin Michigan

Offensive guard Ryan Miller Colorado

Outside Linebacker Demario Davis Arkansas

Round 5:

Cornerback Brandon Boykin Georgia

Round 6:

Defensive tackle Tydreke Powell North Carolina

Round 7:

Strong Safety Eddie Pleasant Oregon

Center Scott Wedige Northern Illinois

tarkenton10
04-18-2012, 09:27 AM
Round 1:

Cornerback Morris Caliborne Lousiana State

Round 2:

Wide Receiver Ryan Broyles Oklahoma Sooners

Round 3:

Free safety Aaron Henry Wisconsin

Round 4:

Defensive tackle Mike Martin Michigan

Offensive guard Ryan Miller Colorado

Outside Linebacker Demario Davis Arkansas

Round 5:

Cornerback Brandon Boykin Georgia

Round 6:

Defensive tackle Tydreke Powell North Carolina

Round 7:

Strong Safety Eddie Pleasant Oregon

Center Scott Wedige Northern Illinois

Your first three have me scratching my head. Claiborne is a good pick if we could move down a few spots but if Kalil is there at three we HAVE to take him. Broyles is a late third rounder at best. You could get him in the third and I say with where we sit in the draft we could get him in the fourth. Aaron Henry is projected a fourth rounder at the earliest. Most place him between fourth and the sixth rounds. Those are some reaches for our first three picks.

MorrisCaliborne
04-18-2012, 05:09 PM
Your first three have me scratching my head. Claiborne is a good pick if we could move down a few spots but if Kalil is there at three we HAVE to take him. Broyles is a late third rounder at best. You could get him in the third and I say with where we sit in the draft we could get him in the fourth. Aaron Henry is projected a fourth rounder at the earliest. Most place him between fourth and the sixth rounds. Those are some reaches for our first three picks.

If the Vikings trade down a few spots, the Vikings will not get Morris Claiborne, the Buccaneers would draft Morris in seconds, drafting Ryan Broyles in the 2nd round is not a reach, if he did not torn his acl, he would been a first rounder, drafting Aaron in the 3rd round is not a reach, he is a ballhawk safety which the Vikings needed

PackSux!
04-18-2012, 05:37 PM
If the Vikings trade down a few spots, the Vikings will not get Morris Claiborne, the Buccaneers would draft Morris in seconds, drafting Ryan Broyles in the 2nd round is not a reach, if he did not torn his acl, he would been a first rounder, drafting Aaron in the 3rd round is not a reach, he is a ballhawk safety which the Vikings needed

How in the heck do you know who the yuckaneers will draft?

SharperImage
04-18-2012, 05:58 PM
Ewuh. But seems like a draft the vikings will make.. Cause they have "POTENTIAL and VALUE that can be pulled out by our amazing coaching staff." Like T-Jack :) Dude i'd cry if our draft went like this, id probably give up on the vikings for miss firing on all these picks

MorrisCaliborne
04-18-2012, 06:02 PM
How in the heck do you know who the yuckaneers will draft?

Ronde Barber is getting old and just in case Aqib gets in trouble again, he will get suspensed and possibly released and their cornerback back-ups are scrubs so that is why I know the Buccaneers will draft Morris and when/if they do, I will say "told you so"

MorrisCaliborne
04-18-2012, 06:07 PM
Ewuh. But seems like a draft the vikings will make.. Cause they have "POTENTIAL and VALUE that can be pulled out by our amazing coaching staff." Like T-Jack :) Dude i'd cry if our draft went like this, id probably give up on the vikings for miss firing on all these picks

Haha, I would love it if they did this draft

12purplepride28
04-18-2012, 07:30 PM
Please God no

tarkenton10
04-19-2012, 01:03 PM
If the Vikings trade down a few spots, the Vikings will not get Morris Claiborne, the Buccaneers would draft Morris in seconds, drafting Ryan Broyles in the 2nd round is not a reach, if he did not torn his acl, he would been a first rounder, drafting Aaron in the 3rd round is not a reach, he is a ballhawk safety which the Vikings needed

The problem is Claiborne is a DB and the 3rd spot is too high for his grade. Broyles DID tear his ACL and like it or not teams have lowered their grade on him, find a site that has him graded in the second round, look at KIper and see where he projects him, it is a reach in round two for Broyles!!!
Again find a site or Kiper where He (Aaron) is higher than a fourth round grade and I will believe you!! Other wise we can get your guys later in the draft and not reach for those last two especially!!

MorrisCaliborne
04-19-2012, 05:17 PM
Keep in mind that the Vikings always reaches like Chris Cook, Christian Ponder, Tarvaris Jackson, etc etc

MaxVike
04-19-2012, 07:45 PM
Keep in mind that the Vikings always reaches like Chris Cook, Christian Ponder, Tarvaris Jackson, etc etc

I will agree with you re: TJoke, however, Chris Cook...at the time, no, not a "reach." Re: Ponder? A "reach," we shall see...way too early to determine if he was a reach. Vikes' needed a QB, liked him, took him. If (yes, IF), he is our guy, no reach...if not, I still don't buy the "reach" argument. Better termed a bad decision in my opinion. "Always," is also an overstatement.

I like Claiborne, but, let's be real people...the Vikes have soooooo many needs they just need to make the right decisions. After all..."reaching" is a term largely defined by us amateurs.

MorrisCaliborne
04-19-2012, 07:59 PM
I will agree with you re: TJoke, however, Chris Cook...at the time, no, not a "reach." Re: Ponder? A "reach," we shall see...way too early to determine if he was a reach. Vikes' needed a QB, liked him, took him. If (yes, IF), he is our guy, no reach...if not, I still don't buy the "reach" argument. Better termed a bad decision in my opinion. "Always," is also an overstatement.

I like Claiborne, but, let's be real people...the Vikes have soooooo many needs they just need to make the right decisions. After all..."reaching" is a term largely defined by us amateurs.

Okay, how about almost always?

12purplepride28
04-19-2012, 11:06 PM
I will agree with you re: TJoke, however, Chris Cook...at the time, no, not a "reach." Re: Ponder? A "reach," we shall see...way too early to determine if he was a reach. Vikes' needed a QB, liked him, took him. If (yes, IF), he is our guy, no reach...if not, I still don't buy the "reach" argument.

The term "reach" is given to a pick that is picked earlier than he was projected to be picked. For example, if the Vikings picked Tom Brady in the 3rd round, he would have been a reach. His HOF career is irrelevant because we could have gotten him in the 6th or 7th. Doesn't mean it was a bad pick, obviously, but it was still a reach.

Christian Ponder will always be a reach because we took him way before he was projected to go. I'm a huge Ponder fan, but he is still a reach. I'm happy with the pick and I think he will be great for us (assuming we can keep him on his feet, fingers crossed for Kalil).

MaxVike
04-20-2012, 07:09 AM
The term "reach" is given to a pick that is picked earlier than he was projected to be picked. For example, if the Vikings picked Tom Brady in the 3rd round, he would have been a reach. His HOF career is irrelevant because we could have gotten him in the 6th or 7th. Doesn't mean it was a bad pick, obviously, but it was still a reach.

Christian Ponder will always be a reach because we took him way before he was projected to go. I'm a huge Ponder fan, but he is still a reach. I'm happy with the pick and I think he will be great for us (assuming we can keep him on his feet, fingers crossed for Kalil).

I am acutely aware of what a "reach" is, thank you very much. I also believe it is an overused term, and, largely used by people that look at other people's rankings and compare when a player is taken to that. When Bill Polian, or, someone who has, or has had, their job on the line when drafting players, refers to someone as a "reach"...I will listen.

Marrdro
04-21-2012, 02:58 PM
Lets look at this logically........

DB's signed........
Zackary Bowman/Chris Carr


DB's on the roster



Bowman, Zack (http://www.nfl.com/player/zackbowman/2507484/profile)
DB
ACT
6'1"
196
11/18/1984
4
Nebraska


21
Allen, Asher (http://www.nfl.com/player/asherallen/80626/profile)
DB
ACT
5'9"
194
1/22/1988
3
Georgia


41
Raymond, Mistral (http://www.nfl.com/player/mistralraymond/2499253/profile)
DB
ACT
6'1"
194
9/7/1987
0
South Florida


33
Sanford, Jamarca (http://www.nfl.com/player/jamarcasanford/71459/profile)
DB
ACT
5'10"
200
8/27/1985
3
Mississippi


34
Sendejo, Andrew (http://www.nfl.com/player/andrewsendejo/2525323/profile)
DB
ACT
6'1"
225
9/9/1987
1
Rice


35
Sherels, Marcus (http://www.nfl.com/player/marcussherels/2508007/profile)
DB
ACT
5'10"
175
9/30/1987
1
Minnesota



Taylor, Nick (http://www.nfl.com/player/nicktaylor/2534554/profile)
DB
ACT
5'10"
165
5/27/1988
0
Florida International



Jones, Reggie (http://www.nfl.com/player/reggiejones/2507725/profile)
DB
ACT
6'0"
193
3/15/1986
2
Portland State


26
Winfield, Antoine (http://www.nfl.com/player/antoinewinfield/2503765/profile)
DB
ACT
5'9"
180
6/24/1977
13
Ohio State


36
Burton, Brandon (http://www.nfl.com/player/brandonburton/2495498/profile)
DB
ACT
5'11"
190
7/31/1989
0
Utah


31
Cook, Chris (http://www.nfl.com/player/chriscook/494263/profile)
DB
ACT
6'2"
212
2/15/1987
2
Virginia


37
Frampton, Eric (http://www.nfl.com/player/ericframpton/2495605/profile)
DB
ACT
5'11"
205






In short, they are not going to use their first pick on a CB especially if you look at who they've signed (0) to play LT and how many (0) they have on the roster that can start at LT.

MorrisCaliborne
04-21-2012, 09:38 PM
Lets look at this logically........

DB's signed........
Zackary Bowman/Chris Carr


DB's on the roster



Bowman, Zack (http://www.nfl.com/player/zackbowman/2507484/profile)
DB
ACT
6'1"
196
11/18/1984
4
Nebraska


21
Allen, Asher (http://www.nfl.com/player/asherallen/80626/profile)
DB
ACT
5'9"
194
1/22/1988
3
Georgia


41
Raymond, Mistral (http://www.nfl.com/player/mistralraymond/2499253/profile)
DB
ACT
6'1"
194
9/7/1987
0
South Florida


33
Sanford, Jamarca (http://www.nfl.com/player/jamarcasanford/71459/profile)
DB
ACT
5'10"
200
8/27/1985
3
Mississippi


34
Sendejo, Andrew (http://www.nfl.com/player/andrewsendejo/2525323/profile)
DB
ACT
6'1"
225
9/9/1987
1
Rice


35
Sherels, Marcus (http://www.nfl.com/player/marcussherels/2508007/profile)
DB
ACT
5'10"
175
9/30/1987
1
Minnesota



Taylor, Nick (http://www.nfl.com/player/nicktaylor/2534554/profile)
DB
ACT
5'10"
165
5/27/1988
0
Florida International



Jones, Reggie (http://www.nfl.com/player/reggiejones/2507725/profile)
DB
ACT
6'0"
193
3/15/1986
2
Portland State


26
Winfield, Antoine (http://www.nfl.com/player/antoinewinfield/2503765/profile)
DB
ACT
5'9"
180
6/24/1977
13
Ohio State


36
Burton, Brandon (http://www.nfl.com/player/brandonburton/2495498/profile)
DB
ACT
5'11"
190
7/31/1989
0
Utah


31
Cook, Chris (http://www.nfl.com/player/chriscook/494263/profile)
DB
ACT
6'2"
212
2/15/1987
2
Virginia


37
Frampton, Eric (http://www.nfl.com/player/ericframpton/2495605/profile)
DB
ACT
5'11"
205






In short, they are not going to use their first pick on a CB especially if you look at who they've signed (0) to play LT and how many (0) they have on the roster that can start at LT.

Are you serious dude? The players they signed are scrubs, the Vikings are going to draft Morris, just watch!

Marrdro
04-22-2012, 04:40 AM
Are you serious dude? The players they signed are scrubs, the Vikings are going to draft Morris, just watch!
Scrubs? Anyone who makes it to the next level are far from scurbs. Aside from that, I'll play that game and say, yes, none of them are "Shutdown CB's".

Then the next part of the game is for you to explain to me why we (a team that runs a C2) would need a shutdown CB?

Any of the following answers would suffice:

a. We hired a D-coord that doesn't run the C2. (Shit, that didn't happen, the new guy runs a C2)
b. Our HC doesn't like the C2. (Shit, forgot, Leslie loves the C2).
c. Our Last D-coord was successfully trying to run a press man version of the C2. (Shit, he got demoted again and the only CB who tried to run it got sent packing - signed by the Deadskins).

And then, lets not forget about the LT 0 aspect of the game my friend.

On a side note, I love this time of year when all kinds of fans show up and make screen names of their favorite college player (a few have even been related) and try to convince me why the Vikes will sign the guy.

In the end, you might be right, but until it happens, I'm going to go on logic and say that the only reason the Vikes have shown any interest in MC is because they are trying to get the Jags to move up to get him.

That, Dude, is a more logical scenario.

MorrisCaliborne
04-22-2012, 06:27 AM
Scrubs? Anyone who makes it to the next level are far from scurbs. Aside from that, I'll play that game and say, yes, none of them are "Shutdown CB's".

Then the next part of the game is for you to explain to me why we (a team that runs a C2) would need a shutdown CB?

Any of the following answers would suffice:

a. We hired a D-coord that doesn't run the C2. (Shit, that didn't happen, the new guy runs a C2)
b. Our HC doesn't like the C2. (Shit, forgot, Leslie loves the C2).
c. Our Last D-coord was successfully trying to run a press man version of the C2. (Shit, he got demoted again and the only CB who tried to run it got sent packing - signed by the Deadskins).

And then, lets not forget about the LT 0 aspect of the game my friend.

On a side note, I love this time of year when all kinds of fans show up and make screen names of their favorite college player (a few have even been related) and try to convince me why the Vikes will sign the guy.

In the end, you might be right, but until it happens, I'm going to go on logic and say that the only reason the Vikes have shown any interest in MC is because they are trying to get the Jags to move up to get him.

That, Dude, is a more logical scenario.

The Jaguars is not going to trade up to get him but I would bow down to you if you are right on draft day

Marrdro
04-22-2012, 07:04 AM
The Jaguars is not going to trade up to get him but I would bow down to you if you are right on draft day
Your new to the site my friend. Hang around, you will find out two things.....

I'am nothing but a yutz with a keyboard and access to the internet that is wrong alot. I just like to talk football.

On a side note, pretty hard to be right when your a yutz who posts a 7 round mock. :)

Don't get me wrong though. I would jump up and down if they took you man. I think he is awesome, just like I think Blackmon and Kalil are awesome.

If the Vikes land one of them I will be happy and will be ready to talk all day about them. Again, its all about the discussion for me, not who is right and wrong.

purplepat
04-22-2012, 08:04 AM
Round 1:

Cornerback Morris Caliborne Lousiana State

For someone who is so in love with this guy, I'd think you could spell his name correctly in the draft...even if you screwed it up initially when selecting your handle. Nevertheless, nice pick.

Round 2:

Wide Receiver Ryan Broyles Oklahoma Sooners

HUGE reach! Totally uncalled for at #35, still a reach at #66. Probably still there in the 4th. Productive in college, but will probably be much less so in the pros.

Round 3:

Free safety Aaron Henry Wisconsin

Again a huge reach. Projected as a 4th to 5th rounder. Way too early.

Round 4:

Defensive tackle Mike Martin Michigan

Would be nice if he lasts until the top of the 4th, but his stock is rising...probably late 2nd to 3rd rounder now.

Offensive guard Ryan Miller Colorado

Outside Linebacker Demario Davis Arkansas

First, it's Arkansas State. 2nd, the 45th rated OLB according to PFW's draft rankings. I don't think so....

Round 5:

Cornerback Brandon Boykin Georgia

Way late on this guy. Projected to late 2nd/early 3rd.

Round 6:

Defensive tackle Tydreke Powell North Carolina

A second DT? And only the 35th best one according to PFW? Still, I could see this pick if we didn't take another DT somewhere in the draft.

Round 7:

Strong Safety Eddie Pleasant Oregon

Center Scott Wedige Northern Illinois

Please tell me why we need to draft a center

See my comments in purple above

MorrisCaliborne
04-22-2012, 10:44 AM
See my comments in purple above

HUGE reach! Totally uncalled for at #35, still a reach at #66. Probably still there in the 4th. Productive in college, but will probably be much less so in the pros.

Just because he tore his acl? Some players come back from torn acls and had a productive career like Dan Marino, yeah he is a quarterback but it is a example

Again a huge reach. Projected as a 4th to 5th rounder. Way too early.

If the Vikings draft him and he becomes a elite safety for the Vikings since Joey Browner, you would not think he is a huge reach

Would be nice if he lasts until the top of the 4th, but his stock is rising...probably late 2nd to 3rd rounder now.

Maybe but the way the draft goes every year, there is suprises, look at Everson Griffith, not expected to fall to the 4th round but he did....

First, it's Arkansas State. 2nd, the 45th rated OLB according to PFW's draft rankings. I don't think so....

Rankings means nothing

Way late on this guy. Projected to late 2nd/early 3rd.

Anything can happen in the draft

A second DT? And only the 35th best one according to PFW? Still, I could see this pick if we didn't take another DT somewhere in the draft.

Again rankings mean nothing and if Mike get hurt then Tydreke can fill in for him

Please tell me why we need to draft a center

Because the offensive line sucks