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oddjob142
04-05-2012, 03:17 PM
From every mock draft there has been, we've been pegged as taking Kalil. Although it would be a good pick, we still would have to settle on a much lower tier WR. Why don't we sign McNeil or Bell (before Philly did) and then draft Blackmon? They are young, albeit with some injury concerns, but I would take the risk for a top tier WR to pair w/ Harvin/Peterson/Ruldolph.

If not, do you think we can sell Cleveland on the possibility of Miami jumping them for Tannehill and swapping our first round picks and also getting CLE's late first rounder for our second? We could get Kalil and Stephen Hill...

Can't wait for the draft...

PackSux!
04-05-2012, 06:18 PM
I will bet my left nut that Stephen hill will be sitting there come the 35th pick. No need to trade. Just draft Kalil at 3 and then Hill at 35.

kevoncox
04-05-2012, 08:58 PM
There are a plethora of Wrs in this draft.

Lets ignore the big 4 of Blackmon, Floyd, Hill and Wright. They are 1st round picks.

That leaves:
Rueben Randle LSU
Alshon Jeffery - USC
Mohamed Sanu - Rutgers
Ryan Broyles - Oklahoma ( Sleeper in the 4th)
A.J. Jenkins - Set ILL records... 4.43 forty
Nick Toon - Love this guy
Tommy Streeter - Mia - Sleeper
Jarius Wright - Not a big guy but a blazer...Desean Jackson ish.
T.J. Graham - NC - 6th rounder sleeper.

I would love us to add Jeffery in the 2nd and Broyles with our late 4th.

Freakout
04-05-2012, 09:15 PM
Brian Quick 6'4 220 lbs - not great speed, 4.5 guy, but great body control.

Juron Criner 6'3 224 lbs - again poor speed but could be one hell of a possession guy.

Greg Childs 6'3 219 lbs - Poor Combine but bounced back with a terrific Pro-Day where he ran a 4.39 40 and increased his vertical jump by 4 inches. (This is my sleeper pick)

Marvin McNutt 6'3 216 lbs - Another possession guy with great hands.

oddjob142
04-06-2012, 07:58 AM
Brian Quick 6'4 220 lbs - not great speed, 4.5 guy, but great body control.

Juron Criner 6'3 224 lbs - again poor speed but could be one hell of a possession guy.

Greg Childs 6'3 219 lbs - Poor Combine but bounced back with a terrific Pro-Day where he ran a 4.39 40 and increased his vertical jump by 4 inches. (This is my sleeper pick)

Marvin McNutt 6'3 216 lbs - Another possession guy with great hands.

I think we need to address safety and middle lb early on. I hope we draft (in this order) OT, WR, FS, MLB, then these in any order DT, CB, WR, DT, RB, OG

bleedpurple
04-06-2012, 09:34 AM
I will bet my left nut that Stephen hill will be sitting there come the 35th pick. No need to trade. Just draft Kalil at 3 and then Hill at 35.


sounds painful

mountainviking
04-08-2012, 10:47 AM
We don't need another slow possesion guy. Jenkins has that covered with reliable hands and blocking. We also have two large, slow TEs who are possession type guys. What we need is a true, vertical threat. Perhaps, Childs can be that guy, or he could be just another Williamson type with speed but no hands...?

I'm far from convinced that we will get a true deep threat in the 2nd or later.

oddjob142
04-08-2012, 10:04 PM
We don't need another slow possesion guy. Jenkins has that covered with reliable hands and blocking. We also have two large, slow TEs who are possession type guys. What we need is a true, vertical threat. Perhaps, Childs can be that guy, or he could be just another Williamson type with speed but no hands...?

I'm far from convinced that we will get a true deep threat in the 2nd or later.

My sentiments exactly...

jmcdon00
04-09-2012, 11:24 AM
I will bet my left nut that Stephen hill will be sitting there come the 35th pick. No need to trade. Just draft Kalil at 3 and then Hill at 35.
I really don't think he will. Most mocks I'm seeing have him as a late 1st rounder. I'd be suprised if he fell to us in the second. The Patriots Rams and Colts could all use a reciever with his strengths.

KevinK
04-09-2012, 12:53 PM
I will bet my left nut that Stephen hill will be sitting there come the 35th pick. No need to trade. Just draft Kalil at 3 and then Hill at 35.

+1 Agree Agree Agree Agree

tarkenton10
04-10-2012, 01:27 PM
We don't need another slow possesion guy. Jenkins has that covered with reliable hands and blocking. We also have two large, slow TEs who are possession type guys. What we need is a true, vertical threat. Perhaps, Childs can be that guy, or he could be just another Williamson type with speed but no hands...?

I'm far from convinced that we will get a true deep threat in the 2nd or later.

I think we can get a deep threat in the third. I have watched Tommy Streeter and he has the speed and the hands to be a true #1 receiver in the NFL. My draft haschanged since March and my first three players would be:

1. Kalil - obvious reasons
2. LaVante David - His stock is rising, he is an undersized Lb out of Nebraska. I am a big Nebraska fan ( I have watched him play for two years) and he is an instinctive hard hitting Lb, who more improtantly, is a playmaker on D. He has great speed and can run with Tes and Rbs, he has pro bowl potential.
3. Tommy Streeter - speed and the hands to be a true #1 receiver in the NFL. That is my draft for us in the first three rounds, as of right now.

MorrisCaliborne
04-10-2012, 02:59 PM
I want Ryan Broyles in the 2nd round, while it may be too high, I am afraid he will be taken sooner

mountainviking
04-12-2012, 11:30 PM
Here's my latest brainstorm on Alternate Draft Strategy: Make a move for Mike Wallace.

He's only got 3 years of tread on him, ie. still has plenty future to grow into. He's averaged over 18 yards a catch over that time along with nearly 60 catches/year and 8TD/year! I've heard him referred to as, "the fastest player in the NFL." In short, he is exactly the WR that the Vikings need, only not a questionable draft pick, but a proven vet.

Mike Wallace, WR for the Pittsburgh Steelers at NFL.com (http://www.nfl.com/player/mikewallace/2507763/profile)

And, the Steelers can't afford to keep him. Next year, he'll be UNrestricted FA. Antonio Brown will be at the end of his first contract, but a RFA. They can't keep both unless they demolish their vet defense and they know it. Furthermore, as a RFA he can be had by just signing him a fat contract and forking over a 1st round pick, but the only teams that are likely to do that are late picks, ie, already pretty solid teams that the Steelers really don't want to help out, like the Pats, Ravens, Texans, Broncos, maybe even Bengals or Jets.

And he's scheduled to only make 2.5 mill this year on his tender, and he's not happy about it. At this point in the off season, he's likely to be a lot happier with a more reasonable contract than his reported request of "Fitzgerald Money."

So I say, offer a swap of our 2nds this year, and perhaps, a 3rd next year...I'd give them our 2nd next year too, but I kinda feel both sides are sorta backed into a corner, so might as well offer less to start.

We get a bonafide vertical threat and still have our first to upgrade LT in a big way! What do ya say!???

VKG4LFE
04-13-2012, 07:43 AM
We don't need another slow possesion guy. Jenkins has that covered with reliable hands and blocking. We also have two large, slow TEs who are possession type guys. What we need is a true, vertical threat. Perhaps, Childs can be that guy, or he could be just another Williamson type with speed but no hands...?

I'm far from convinced that we will get a true deep threat in the 2nd or later.


Totally agree!

tarkenton10
04-13-2012, 09:24 AM
Here's my latest brainstorm on Alternate Draft Strategy: Make a move for Mike Wallace.

He's only got 3 years of tread on him, ie. still has plenty future to grow into. He's averaged over 18 yards a catch over that time along with nearly 60 catches/year and 8TD/year! I've heard him referred to as, "the fastest player in the NFL." In short, he is exactly the WR that the Vikings need, only not a questionable draft pick, but a proven vet.

Mike Wallace, WR for the Pittsburgh Steelers at NFL.com (http://www.nfl.com/player/mikewallace/2507763/profile)

And, the Steelers can't afford to keep him. Next year, he'll be UNrestricted FA. Antonio Brown will be at the end of his first contract, but a RFA. They can't keep both unless they demolish their vet defense and they know it. Furthermore, as a RFA he can be had by just signing him a fat contract and forking over a 1st round pick, but the only teams that are likely to do that are late picks, ie, already pretty solid teams that the Steelers really don't want to help out, like the Pats, Ravens, Texans, Broncos, maybe even Bengals or Jets.

And he's scheduled to only make 2.5 mill this year on his tender, and he's not happy about it. At this point in the off season, he's likely to be a lot happier with a more reasonable contract than his reported request of "Fitzgerald Money."

So I say, offer a swap of our 2nds this year, and perhaps, a 3rd next year...I'd give them our 2nd next year too, but I kinda feel both sides are sorta backed into a corner, so might as well offer less to start.

We get a bonafide vertical threat and still have our first to upgrade LT in a big way! What do ya say!???

I say if you want to do that we can trade with someone in the high 20's and give them our second and one of our thirds (a lower one) and give Pitts. that # 1 pick. We only have to fork over a #1 so we could save draft choices by getting one way late in round1. I like the idea though, he is just what we need and as I have said before a WR in the draft is one position that has big bust/reward. I think more than any other position, QB may be close though. So to get a proven #1 and with great speed and decent hands I am all for it.

jmcdon00
04-16-2012, 10:46 AM
I say if you want to do that we can trade with someone in the high 20's and give them our second and one of our thirds (a lower one) and give Pitts. that # 1 pick. We only have to fork over a #1 so we could save draft choices by getting one way late in round1. I like the idea though, he is just what we need and as I have said before a WR in the draft is one position that has big bust/reward. I think more than any other position, QB may be close though. So to get a proven #1 and with great speed and decent hands I am all for it.
The biggest problem I see is the contract. Maybe not Fitz money but likely over 10 million a year, with most of it guaranteed. Compared to a late first round rookie that probably costs less than 2 million, and is potentially just as good.
Then again we have the cap room, they could probably even structure the deal so he takes a bulk of his contract against this years cap, making his future cap hit much more reasonable.
I'm not sure how this would work exactly though, as it would all have to go down during the draft. Teams are going to be hesitant to trade their first round pick until they know who is available. Not sure what the process is to claim someone, but I wouldn't think you could just hand the steelers the pick while they are already on the clock.

bleedpurple
04-16-2012, 11:56 AM
I say if you want to do that we can trade with someone in the high 20's and give them our second and one of our thirds (a lower one) and give Pitts. that # 1 pick. We only have to fork over a #1 so we could save draft choices by getting one way late in round1. I like the idea though, he is just what we need and as I have said before a WR in the draft is one position that has big bust/reward. I think more than any other position, QB may be close though. So to get a proven #1 and with great speed and decent hands I am all for it.

I've thought about that a lot too.. Problem is he wants to be paid like Fitzgerald.... and we have to re-up Harvin next year... There's no way we can have $20M invested in 2 wr's.... that's an insane amount of money to pay...

So, while it sounds good.. it's a pipe dream!