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MulletMullitia
11-18-2011, 05:53 AM
I'm sorry if this is a sore subject right now. And let me start off by saying that I hope that the Vikings remain in Minnesota forever. But I was talking to my Dad about this tonight. He is a lifelong Vikings fan as well, despite us both living in Indiana our whole lives. Would you follow this team to Los Angeles if Wilf moved the team there? Or would you simply stop following, and / or choose another team? As an out of state Vikings fan, I would definitely follow them anywhere. But if I lived in Minnesota, I'm sure I would feel differently. What would you do?

Purple Floyd
11-18-2011, 07:00 AM
Follow them? Nah, I have no desire to live in California. Watch them? Probably not because with our luck they would move there and win several SB' s and then the announcers would jab us at every chance about how pathetic the team was here, which is the case.

ConnecticutViking
11-18-2011, 07:01 AM
I wouldn't follow them and I'm not in Minnesota...

1. Minnesota would retain the rights to the Name, so this team would not be the LA Vikings. They would be a totally new creation. New colors, new name, new logo. When the Oilers left Houston they became the Titans. When the Browns left Cleveland they became the Colts.

2. I became a Viking Fan in the 70's... I relate to Bud Grant, playing in muck at the met, Purple People Eaters, etc. Even though my Vikes play in a dome, I still connect to the roots.

3. Don't know what I would do if they move. Maybe be an NFL fan for a while. Connect more to college football. But I would be damned if I ever root for the California Porn Stars or LA Plastic Surgeons

MulletMullitia
11-18-2011, 07:18 AM
I wouldn't follow them and I'm not in Minnesota...

1. Minnesota would retain the rights to the Name, so this team would not be the LA Vikings. They would be a totally new creation. New colors, new name, new logo. When the Oilers left Houston they became the Titans. When the Browns left Cleveland they became the Colts.

2. I became a Viking Fan in the 70's... I relate to Bud Grant, playing in muck at the met, Purple People Eaters, etc. Even though my Vikes play in a dome, I still connect to the roots.

3. Don't know what I would do if they move. Maybe be an NFL fan for a while. Connect more to college football. But I would be damned if I ever root for the California Porn Stars or LA Plastic Surgeons

The Colts came from Baltimore, not Cleveland. But I see what you're saying. I know that we would lose the team name and colors. That would be awful.

And to Floyd...you may be right. Look at the Lakers. Once the Minneapolis Lakers. But I have a hard time believing that there are many loyal Lakers fans that still live in Minnesota.

My Dad also said that he would be done. Which made me pretty sad. I would hate to see that. He is the reason that I'm a die-hard Vikings fan to this day. But I'm actually thinking about moving to Southern Cali myself, and that would make it that much easier on me. But I would still hate it. It just wouldn't be the same. But I just wouldn't have the heart to cheer for any other franchise.

Zeus
11-18-2011, 08:00 AM
I wouldn't follow them and I'm not in Minnesota...

1. Minnesota would retain the rights to the Name, so this team would not be the LA Vikings. They would be a totally new creation. New colors, new name, new logo. When the Oilers left Houston they became the Titans. When the Browns left Cleveland they became the Colts

Minnesota would not retain the rights to the name or franchise records. That ONLY happened to the Browns because it was negotiated.

When the Oilers left Houston, they WERE the Tennessee Oilers for at least one season before rebranding as the Titans. But the franchise marks for the Titans ARE the OIlers' records.

Same for the Indianapolis Colts. Same for the St. Louis Rams.

=Z=

Zeus
11-18-2011, 08:01 AM
Follow them? Nah, I have no desire to live in California. Watch them? Probably not because with our luck they would move there and win several SB' s and then the announcers would jab us at every chance about how pathetic the team was here, which is the case.

I've already decided that if the Vikings leave, I will become a fan of the Chefs.

=Z=

ConnecticutViking
11-18-2011, 08:52 AM
Minnesota would not retain the rights to the name or franchise records. That ONLY happened to the Browns because it was negotiated.

When the Oilers left Houston, they WERE the Tennessee Oilers for at least one season before rebranding as the Titans. But the franchise marks for the Titans ARE the OIlers' records.

Same for the Indianapolis Colts. Same for the St. Louis Rams.

=Z=

Either way, I don't see LA keeping the Viking name, logo, or colors. The point is creating a new fan base. The Viking name was picked because many people in the area can trace their heritage back to Scandinavia. I know the Lakers were named for obvious reasons, but I don't see LA keeping the tag Vikings. Also, in the world of merchandise sales... I believe new colors and logo would be created in order to sell more.

Nitrostangs
11-18-2011, 09:38 AM
I will probably become a Giants fan, I kind of am right now. I like a lot of their players like Hakeem Nicks outta UNC and Brandon Jacobs is a beast. I also like the way Eli is a silent leader of that team. Shows that a player can be a leader without being out spoken like Ray Lewis. Nothing against Lewis just a different approach to leadership

i_bleed_purple
11-18-2011, 09:43 AM
I wouldn't follow them and I'm not in Minnesota...

1. Minnesota would retain the rights to the Name, so this team would not be the LA Vikings. They would be a totally new creation. New colors, new name, new logo. When the Oilers left Houston they became the Titans. When the Browns left Cleveland they became the Colts.Became the ravens actually

i_bleed_purple
11-18-2011, 09:45 AM
I'd probably be a Chargers fan then. They've been my AFC team for a long time now (Maybe I'm just a sucker for punishment)

jargomcfargo
11-18-2011, 09:51 AM
My team is the Minnesota Vikings. I was born and raised in Minnesota and my loyalty to this unsuccessful franchise has as much to do with it's Minnesota roots as anything else. This is our team, win or lose.
If they quit Minnesota, I'm done with the team and the NFL.
No regrets but there is far more to life than football.

skum
11-18-2011, 09:53 AM
Raiders are my #2, so id follow them

But get this stadium deal done so it won't happen.. Need my Vikings

2beersTommy
11-18-2011, 12:13 PM
I've already decided that if the Vikings leave, I will become a fan of the Chefs.

=Z=

really..the CHEFS?? if they dont sound like a bunch of pu$$ies!

tough call, I dont know what I'd do, but Im leaning towards finding another team to follow..but which one? Im in NY and hate all the NY teams..

Krumb
11-18-2011, 12:45 PM
My family have been Vikings fans for a few generations so to see them leave would actually be pretty upsetting to me, I'd probably just be a fan of the NFL I like other teams but not to the level of the good guys.

El Vikingo
11-18-2011, 01:49 PM
I am an away fan,but for some reason I couldnīt root for the team if it moves ,especially to Los Angeles yuck..I dont like winning teams like 49ers or Patriots,too much glamour for me ,I ll start rooting my 2nd team ,Buffalo Bills.

Freakout
11-18-2011, 02:03 PM
Either way, I don't see LA keeping the Viking name, logo, or colors. The point is creating a new fan base. The Viking name was picked because many people in the area can trace their heritage back to Scandinavia. I know the Lakers were named for obvious reasons, but I don't see LA keeping the tag Vikings. Also, in the world of merchandise sales... I believe new colors and logo would be created in order to sell more.

I don't see a color change. Purple and Gold are pretty popular in LA.....

AngloVike
11-18-2011, 02:06 PM
I'm an out of state fan for sure but not sure I would follow then if they went out of state. I'd still follow football but my next wait would be for a franchise in London - that I could then follow with a clearer conscience.

NodakPaul
11-18-2011, 02:21 PM
I would continue to be a fan of the LA Vikings-or-whatever-they-are-called.

I'm sorry, but if the Vikings leave, I have a hard time blaming them. They have done everything the state asked. Find a local partner? Check. Put up more than the original third they were offering? Check. Agree on a retracatable roof? Check.

What else do they have to do? I don't think they should do the legislature's job and come up with a funding plan for the public money. They have committed to $400+ million of private money, found a local partner that has agreed to fund $300 million (and came up with a way to fund it), and they just needed the state to figure out how to come up with the last $300 million.

This is 100% on the state IMHO. (OK, maybe 85% on the state... but still).

BadlandsVikings
11-18-2011, 03:12 PM
When they leave, I will be a Bills fan

vikesrgreat2
11-18-2011, 03:20 PM
I will have to seriously think about it, but will likely become a Kansas City Chiefs fan if this unfortunately goes down. Living less than 90 miles from Lambeau Field, there would be HUGE peer pressuire for me to follow the crowd to become a Packer fan. However, that idea is revolting to me!

Mark_The_Viking
11-18-2011, 04:24 PM
already decided I would be a Ravens fan. Purple and on the east coast near where some friends of mine live so wouuld have a chance of seeing them play. Not sure I could live with a franchise in LA

Johnson14
11-18-2011, 04:30 PM
No, i would not "follow" the team in LA.

If the Vikings leave then I will just become a football fan, watching random games with no particular penchant about who wins.

jessejames09
11-18-2011, 04:54 PM
I've never even been to Minnesota, not even close but I can't imagine loving the LA whatevers as much as I do the Minnesota Vikings. I mean the amount of my life I've wasted bullshitting about them on this website with you guys. We could probably be a fortune 500 company, if the collective time we've spent bitching about the Vikings was put towards a common goal, rather than trying to figure out why we suck so bad.

If it ever did happen, and it won't, (knock on wood) I wouldn't be as into it as I am now. It wouldn't be the same. It wouldn't be our Vikings. I couldn't root against our guys though. The way things stand I have a tonne of respect for a handful of players on this team, and I don't see that fact changing either.

Fuck this topic sucks.

Dfoster
11-18-2011, 05:01 PM
If you ever saw the movie Fargo, you've been to friggin' Minnesota.

he he he

Pack that, lol ... call me and my bro's goat herders, etc.

Hey, der !

Puker fans are comin' for yer website when you bail!

...preliminary re-name is --

purple-ride.org


:p

Caine
11-18-2011, 05:54 PM
If you ever saw the movie Fargo, you've been to friggin' Minnesota.

he he he

Pack that, lol ... call me and my bro's goat herders, etc.

Hey, der !

Puker fans are comin' for yer website when you bail!

...preliminary re-name is --

purple-ride.org


:p

Ummmm...I could point to Milwaukee as a great source of "Hey der" people....

Evidenced by this little ditty --->
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QBTGsmKvOe4
I'm just sayin'....

Caine

battleaxe4cheese
11-18-2011, 06:59 PM
The fact that this is a viable conversation topic right now sickens me for starters. This team has been part of this state for over 50 years!

If they move to California as much as it pains me to say it.....I'm done with them. NO more. Wow, what a brutal thought. I have always liked the Ravens, but since I live in Minnesota I will never be able to watch them on tv. (unless I get dish and spend mucho dineros). I will probably let one of my lifes passions just drift off into the sunset...and probably won't look back.

singersp
11-19-2011, 07:02 AM
If you ever saw the movie Fargo, you've been to friggin' Minnesota.

he he he

Pack that, lol ... call me and my bro's goat herders, etc.

Hey, der !

Puker fans are comin' for yer website when you bail!

...preliminary re-name is --

purple-ride.org


:p

When I see posts by Dfoster, this is the visual image I get of him.

Dfoster explained...............

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b21/singersp82759/Packers/Dfoster.jpg


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rObvzOMYEwI

Purple Floyd
11-19-2011, 09:50 AM
I've already decided that if the Vikings leave, I will become a fan of the Chefs.

=Z=

Which ones-Gordon Ramsay and Rachael Ray?:rofl:

Purple Floyd
11-19-2011, 09:53 AM
If you ever saw the movie Fargo, you've been to friggin' Minnesota.

he he he

Pack that, lol ... call me and my bro's goat herders, etc.

Hey, der !

Puker fans are comin' for yer website when you bail!

...preliminary re-name is --

purple-ride.org


:p

Umm. Fargo is in North Dakota. :think:

I suppose with that line of thought then any sports fan from Pennsylvania is just like Sandusky.....:hump:

Traveling_Vike
11-20-2011, 12:51 PM
I've already decided that if the Vikings leave, I will become a fan of the Chefs.

=Z=

Great googly moogly!

But yes, I'm with you on that one. KC is my #2 team, albeit by a fair margin.

Traveling_Vike
11-20-2011, 12:56 PM
I won't follow that team. I'll follow the players, though. They won't have a choice in the matter if a move happens. Adrian, Jared and many others still have earned and deserve our allegiance even if the franchise does not.

I think they'd keep the colors in LA, too. As was said, purple and gold is pretty popular out there, plus there is only one other NFL team using purple, so it is a much more "offbeat" color for folks to gravitate towards. So many teams use the same old red, or blue, or green.

ultravikingfan
11-20-2011, 08:13 PM
I would be a Steelers fan!

6 Rings Fuckers!!!

midgensa
11-20-2011, 09:19 PM
I really do not know what I will do if that happens.

I have no ties to the Minnesota area, but I also would feel betrayed and I would likely just stop having a favorite team. I am thinking that the legislators up there finally get their shit together and this doesn't happen. I think I would definitely find myself cheering a lot for the Bengals (my brother's favorite squad) but I don't know that I would really have a team that I live and die for like I do now.

Kind of depressing.

Reignman
11-20-2011, 11:07 PM
I wouldn't blame Wilf for moving them. I'm actually surprised he hasn't made that decision already after having to deal with these politicians who are only interested in getting re-elected. Having said that, they'd probably become my most hated team. You know damn well they'll win a super bowl within the first 5 years of being in LA just to rub salt in our wounds.

If given a choice, I'm not going to pick another team that's just going to frustrate me for years. Maybe I'd pick the Steelers and instantly inherit 6 rings which I can throw in the face of all the obnoxious Packer fans I know, the way they've done to me with their 4.

I just wonder which teams will be typically televised in the Twin Cities market if they did move. Something tells me we'd have to watch a lot more Packer games. In that case my new favorite team will be whoever the Packers happen to be playing that week.

Purple Floyd
11-20-2011, 11:13 PM
The way the team is playing and the way Wilf is running the team, if he did load up the Mayflower moving vans in the middle of the night, LA might just scramble to put out some "Sorry, we're closed" signs at the edge of town in hopes he will turn around and take them back where they came from.

Minniman
11-20-2011, 11:50 PM
Not a chance.

I do not hate many things, but I HATE the Lakers, and I HATE the Stars.

Not death in a plane crash hate, but sports fan hate ... you know what I mean.

It sort of helps that my favorite AFC team has always been the Steelers and that my wife is from Pittsburgh, but losing the Vikings would still be a very tough blow as a life long fan.

keystonevike
11-21-2011, 12:19 AM
I would not. I would still watch football as much as I do now, but I would just be an NFL fan. No favorite team.
I would want the name and the colors to stay in Minnesota.
But then again the Lakers took the name with them to LA, a city not exactly known for its lakes (if it has any at all).

keystonevike
11-21-2011, 12:21 AM
And it would SUCK big time if they moved and then won the Super Bowl.

highdesertvike
11-21-2011, 02:23 AM
There will be no other team for me. If they keep the name "Vikings", then I will be a fan no matter WHERE they are. If they don't...I'm pretty much done with watching football altogether.

Zeus
11-21-2011, 10:35 AM
Either way, I don't see LA keeping the Viking name, logo, or colors. The point is creating a new fan base. The Viking name was picked because many people in the area can trace their heritage back to Scandinavia. I know the Lakers were named for obvious reasons, but I don't see LA keeping the tag Vikings. Also, in the world of merchandise sales... I believe new colors and logo would be created in order to sell more.

Doesn't mean, in the HIGHLY unlikely event that Minnesota gets a different team, that all of the Vikings-related things (colors, name, records) suddenly become linked to this different franchise.

If the Vikings move to LA, Fran Tarkenton is still the Franchise's all-time leading QB, for example. If the Jaguars then move to Minnesota, we get Byron Leftwich! Or Mark Brunell. Whatever.

=Z=

Zeus
11-21-2011, 10:37 AM
really..the CHEFS?? if they dont sound like a bunch of pu$$ies!

tough call, I dont know what I'd do, but Im leaning towards finding another team to follow..but which one? Im in NY and hate all the NY teams..

Yeah, I'm not terribly excited about the possibility. But I couldn't cheer for any NFC North team, and I want the team to be in the midwest. That kinda narrows it down to the Rams or the Chiefs.

=Z=

Zeus
11-21-2011, 10:41 AM
I would be a Steelers fan!

6 Rings Fuckers!!!

I always knew you were a bandwagon bitch.

What about the Browns?

=Z=

C Mac D
11-21-2011, 10:56 AM
I'd still be a fan. It's not the teams fault if they move, it's Minnesota legislature's fault... not to mention the people of Minnesota themselves. They've spoken and it sounds like they don't want the Vikings there anymore.

I'll remain a fan.

marshallvike
11-21-2011, 04:17 PM
Yeah, I'm not terribly excited about the possibility. But I couldn't cheer for any NFC North team, and I want the team to be in the midwest. That kinda narrows it down to the Rams or the Chiefs.

=Z=

I could see cheering for the Lions, if they didn"t come with the cesspool of a city called Detroit

marstc09
11-21-2011, 09:36 PM
When I see posts by Dfoster, this is the visual image I get of him.

Dfoster explained...............

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b21/singersp82759/Packers/Dfoster.jpg


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rObvzOMYEwI

Post of the year by far!

marstc09
11-21-2011, 09:51 PM
We already had a thread like this so I will say what I said in that one.

If they keep everything in tact, then yes I will follow LA but only if the colors, name, and logo stay the same. LA would be closer.

If not, I will follow the Cardinals but would likely never have the love I had for the Vikings and never have as much memorabilia.

Austin LaVerne Madesian
11-21-2011, 10:59 PM
this thread kinda pisses me off. everyone who says they wouldn't follow the team are not real fans in my book.

apparently you have been rooting for these guys, up and down for most of your lives. so much so that you even joined this online community so you could talk about them all year long with other guys (and gals sometimes) who are also incredibly interested.

If you wouldnt follow the team if they move, then why even watch them now? you're telling me you wouldn't keep rooting for Adrian Peterson? you wouldn't follow the production of Christian Ponder? you are all honestly saying that if they moved to LA next year and went to the superbowl, you wouldn't root for them like crazy as if nothing had changed. you are a bunch of liars.

They aren't leaving you. Its not like a girlfriend is moving away and you need to decide whether or not the keep the relationship going on. its a football team.

I'm an out of state fan. been to three games, two in minny and one in North Carolina. I would still be able to watch them just as much if they moved.

and to the people who said they'd root for the raiders or the chargers, you dont make a lick of sense to me. if you would suddenly become diehard fans of teams within an hours drive of the LA vikings, then why in the freaking world wouldn't you keep on rooting for the vikings?

if you've been a lifelong fan, then you don't have a choice. if you could even think about rooting for another team then you CANT call yourself a true fan.

I live within a reasonable drive of a few teams. the Vikings, Bears, Lions, Packers, Rams, Colts, Browns, Bengals and probably a couple other midwestern teams that I cant think of right now. and i cant see myself rooting for ANY of those teams other than the vikings, even if they move.

to those who would jump the viking ship, I hope that you never come to this site, or a vikings game ever again, because i cannot consider any of you team hoppers fellow fans.

and one final note for the people who would stop rooting for this franchise in favor of the Packers, you have my blessing in finding the biggest cliff in the world and jumping off of it. because it is the very viking way to hate everything packers.

Purple Floyd
11-21-2011, 11:24 PM
I would continue to be a fan of the LA Vikings-or-whatever-they-are-called.

I'm sorry, but if the Vikings leave, I have a hard time blaming them. They have done everything the state asked. Find a local partner? Check. Put up more than the original third they were offering? Check. Agree on a retracatable roof? Check.

What else do they have to do? I don't think they should do the legislature's job and come up with a funding plan for the public money. They have committed to $400+ million of private money, found a local partner that has agreed to fund $300 million (and came up with a way to fund it), and they just needed the state to figure out how to come up with the last $300 million.

This is 100% on the state IMHO. (OK, maybe 85% on the state... but still).

Maybe they should have dropped the roof idea and built a 700 million dollar stadium with the money they had committed between the vikings and Ramsay and left the state out of it completely.

Caine
11-22-2011, 08:24 AM
this thread kinda pisses me off. everyone who says they wouldn't follow the team are not real fans in my book.

apparently you have been rooting for these guys, up and down for most of your lives. so much so that you even joined this online community so you could talk about them all year long with other guys (and gals sometimes) who are also incredibly interested.

If you wouldnt follow the team if they move, then why even watch them now? you're telling me you wouldn't keep rooting for Adrian Peterson? you wouldn't follow the production of Christian Ponder? you are all honestly saying that if they moved to LA next year and went to the superbowl, you wouldn't root for them like crazy as if nothing had changed. you are a bunch of liars.

They aren't leaving you. Its not like a girlfriend is moving away and you need to decide whether or not the keep the relationship going on. its a football team.

I'm an out of state fan. been to three games, two in minny and one in North Carolina. I would still be able to watch them just as much if they moved.

and to the people who said they'd root for the raiders or the chargers, you dont make a lick of sense to me. if you would suddenly become diehard fans of teams within an hours drive of the LA vikings, then why in the freaking world wouldn't you keep on rooting for the vikings?

if you've been a lifelong fan, then you don't have a choice. if you could even think about rooting for another team then you CANT call yourself a true fan.

I live within a reasonable drive of a few teams. the Vikings, Bears, Lions, Packers, Rams, Colts, Browns, Bengals and probably a couple other midwestern teams that I cant think of right now. and i cant see myself rooting for ANY of those teams other than the vikings, even if they move.

to those who would jump the viking ship, I hope that you never come to this site, or a vikings game ever again, because i cannot consider any of you team hoppers fellow fans.

and one final note for the people who would stop rooting for this franchise in favor of the Packers, you have my blessing in finding the biggest cliff in the world and jumping off of it. because it is the very viking way to hate everything packers.

Wow...I almost completely disagree with everything you've written - except the part about never cheering for the Packers.

My earliest memories of the Vikings are as a grade school aged St. Paul resident. The formation of my passion is rooted in my childhood memories of the MINNESOTA Vikings and their involvement in assorted community endeavors. My fandom does not solely reside in Sunday morning exploits.

So, because I have a broader view of the team, I am "not a real fan"? Because I am one of those who WILL find another franchise if the Vikings move.

You say that the team is not "leaving you"...yet they most certainly are. Ask the fans in Baltimore what they think about the Colts. Ask the fans in LA how they feel about the Rams. Ask fans in St Louis how they feel about the Cardinals. And so on, and so on...

In MOST cases, the LOCAL people - you know, the ones who get ABANDONED - resent that and cheer for someone else.

You think people in Cleveland still cheer for LaBron James? According to you, he didn't "leave" them...

The fact that YOU choose not to change is completely your choice...and more power to ya for it. But to challenge someone's "fan status" based upon their choices to support a team that HAS abandoned them or not is something that can only backfire on you.

I now live in Southern Wisconsin. I have attended games when able. I wear my colors proudly, despite our poor record. I suffer through the mocking remarks of my local Packtards unflinchingly. But, according to YOU, I'm not a "real fan"?

I take offense to that.

Caine

Reignman
11-22-2011, 10:19 AM
Well said Caine. Before Austin LaVerne Madesian even got to the part where he mentions he's not from Minnesota I knew he wasn't from Minnesota. You clearly don't understand how painful it's going to be for a lot of us here if they move. You don't rip someones heart out, and expect them to still be a fan.

I cheer for AP, PH, JA, and CP because they play for the MINNESOTA Vikings and that's the only team I care about. If any of them are traded to San Diego tomorrow I'll be mad but they won't be anymore important to me than Philip Rivers. If the team moves to LA that's no different to me than if they traded all our players to an LA team. There was a time when 90% of the Vikings were former Eagles, do you think Philly fans were cheering us on?

Despite you not being from Minnesota, you can't tell me you wouldn't rather see them stay in Minnesota if you were given a choice. I didn't want the Rams, Browns, Colts, or Cardinals to move when they did because I think it's the worst thing in sports when franchises are allowed to relocate. But none of them bothered me as much as it will with the Vikings because none of them were from MINNESOTA! Do you think the Viking-Packer rivalry is going to be just as meaningful if they're in LA?

marshallvike
11-22-2011, 02:05 PM
this thread kinda pisses me off. everyone who says they wouldn't follow the team are not real fans in my book.

apparently you have been rooting for these guys, up and down for most of your lives. so much so that you even joined this online community so you could talk about them all year long with other guys (and gals sometimes) who are also incredibly interested.

If you wouldnt follow the team if they move, then why even watch them now? you're telling me you wouldn't keep rooting for Adrian Peterson? you wouldn't follow the production of Christian Ponder? you are all honestly saying that if they moved to LA next year and went to the superbowl, you wouldn't root for them like crazy as if nothing had changed. you are a bunch of liars.

They aren't leaving you. Its not like a girlfriend is moving away and you need to decide whether or not the keep the relationship going on. its a football team.

I'm an out of state fan. been to three games, two in minny and one in North Carolina. I would still be able to watch them just as much if they moved.

and to the people who said they'd root for the raiders or the chargers, you dont make a lick of sense to me. if you would suddenly become diehard fans of teams within an hours drive of the LA vikings, then why in the freaking world wouldn't you keep on rooting for the vikings?

if you've been a lifelong fan, then you don't have a choice. if you could even think about rooting for another team then you CANT call yourself a true fan.

I live within a reasonable drive of a few teams. the Vikings, Bears, Lions, Packers, Rams, Colts, Browns, Bengals and probably a couple other midwestern teams that I cant think of right now. and i cant see myself rooting for ANY of those teams other than the vikings, even if they move.

to those who would jump the viking ship, I hope that you never come to this site, or a vikings game ever again, because i cannot consider any of you team hoppers fellow fans.

and one final note for the people who would stop rooting for this franchise in favor of the Packers, you have my blessing in finding the biggest cliff in the world and jumping off of it. because it is the very viking way to hate everything packers.

You know, my grandfather lived in northwestern Minnesota. He wished ffor the day that Minnesota would have a football team. Unfortunately he died in 1960 before he got to see the Vikings take the field. My dad has been a huge Vikings fan since their inception. He still tells me he named me after Jim Marshall. I was born in Minnesota and spent my childhood years in La Crosse,Wi, a Viking fan since I could stay home os sundays and watch the games with my dad. I have now lived in Chicago for many years, but never considered switching my allegiance. Proudly wearing the Purple whether we are playing well or playing poorly.
Now you come on here and decide that if I feel betrayed by the Vikings for leaving Minnesota and no longer root for them, I am not a true fan?
GO F()#K YOURSELF!!!!!

Freakout
11-22-2011, 02:16 PM
You know, my grandfather lived in northwestern Minnesota. He wished ffor the day that Minnesota would have a football team. Unfortunately he died in 1960 before he got to see the Vikings take the field. My dad has been a huge Vikings fan since their inception. He still tells me he named me after Jim Marshall. I was born in Minnesota and spent my childhood years in La Crosse,Wi, a Viking fan since I could stay home os sundays and watch the games with my dad. I have now lived in Chicago for many years, but never considered switching my allegiance. Proudly wearing the Purple whether we are playing well or playing poorly.
Now you come on here and decide that if I feel betrayed by the Vikings for leaving Minnesota and no longer root for them, I am not a true fan?
GO F()#K YOURSELF!!!!!

The feeling betrayed is the head scratcher. How did the team betray you? They have jumped through every hoop the state legislature has put in front of them and they still cannot get any public support for a new stadium. What in the world do you expect them to do?

i_bleed_purple
11-22-2011, 02:43 PM
I'd agree in a way. It's like punching your girlfriend in the face constantly then feeling betrayed when she leaves you.

The Vikings have been trying for a stadium for literally a decade, and the state won't help in the slightest bit. They've made more than enough concessions, done what was asked (except fund the entire thing), but officials are more worried about the election than keeping a storied franchise in Minnesota.

However, jumping to another team when the move is certainly not calling you a true fan. I'd leave too. I'm a fan of the MINNESOTA Vikings. It's not the MInnesota part, it's not hte Vikings part. Somehow, a combination of both. If they leave, I'm a Chargers fan. It's that simple.

slavinator
11-22-2011, 03:04 PM
Tough call and I keep getting asked about it. I dont really know.....All I know is that this team has been a dissappointment other than AD, Ponder, and Allen. They seem to be the only guys who are playing hard. If they moved I would be closer (living in AZ)and could go to more games but I would feel rotten while doing it. I manage to get to a couple of games a year as is, but my love for the Vikes would soon be replace for my loathing of the Packers. Each week I would have a different team, "Whoever is playing the Pack" is who I will follow. Skol!

slavinator
11-22-2011, 03:06 PM
In other words not a whole lot would be different than now........

marshallvike
11-22-2011, 04:20 PM
The feeling betrayed is the head scratcher. How did the team betray you? They have jumped through every hoop the state legislature has put in front of them and they still cannot get any public support for a new stadium. What in the world do you expect them to do?



So they HAVE to leave if a new stadium isn't built? The dome is going to blow up at midnight after the last game.

The sackless legislators have completely screwed the pooch on this. I would still be pissed at them if they left. Emotions are not dictated by logic.

Caine
11-22-2011, 05:37 PM
The feeling betrayed is the head scratcher. How did the team betray you? They have jumped through every hoop the state legislature has put in front of them and they still cannot get any public support for a new stadium. What in the world do you expect them to do?

Because the team has the OPTION of not using public funds at all. They can CHOOSE to fund it themselves - or with the help of the county or other private interests. Instead, they throw the burden at the State, then say, "Well...we tried. Not our fault."

But it is.

There are precedents to this - other teams have financed their stadiums themselves. Claiming that they "Need" state money is sort of smoke and mirrors.

In the end, they can choose to remain the Minnesota Vikings - even if they have to pay for their own stadium (And, thereby, gain the rights to ALL of the revenue generated). But, from the sound of things, they won't. They'll insist they need public funds, and dangle LA in the faces of the State Legislature.

Bottom line, while neither side is 100% right or wrong in this debacle, if the Vikings CHOOSE to leave, they do so because THEY chose to. That's where the "abandonment" element comes in.

Or, to put it another way, if your girlfriend says she'll only stay your girlfriend if you give her more money...what kind of girlfriend is she? I don't pick and choose winning seasons to buy Viking memorabilia. I don't only support them when they are on the up side of things. Yet that's what they're telling US...we only love you if you buy us a stadium...

Clearer now?

Caine

vikinggreg
11-22-2011, 08:46 PM
Because the team has the OPTION of not using public funds at all. They can CHOOSE to fund it themselves - or with the help of the county or other private interests. Instead, they throw the burden at the State, then say, "Well...we tried. Not our fault."

But it is.

There are precedents to this - other teams have financed their stadiums themselves. Claiming that they "Need" state money is sort of smoke and mirrors.

In the end, they can choose to remain the Minnesota Vikings - even if they have to pay for their own stadium (And, thereby, gain the rights to ALL of the revenue generated). But, from the sound of things, they won't. They'll insist they need public funds, and dangle LA in the faces of the State Legislature.

Bottom line, while neither side is 100% right or wrong in this debacle, if the Vikings CHOOSE to leave, they do so because THEY chose to. That's where the "abandonment" element comes in.

Or, to put it another way, if your girlfriend says she'll only stay your girlfriend if you give her more money...what kind of girlfriend is she? I don't pick and choose winning seasons to buy Viking memorabilia. I don't only support them when they are on the up side of things. Yet that's what they're telling US...we only love you if you buy us a stadium...

Clearer now?

Caine

Some of those teams that choose to build it themselves still get the funding from other subsides, low or no interest bonds, grants, psl's and are in larger markets....unless they're in a really small market and they keep getting to printing off shares and sell them whenever they want. If the state choses to support the other teams and then try to force an extra year out of the old lease due to it not being usable for a couple of games last year, I'm not going to hold a grudge against the team, they are a business and have to lookout for themselves to a point as well. Its not like this has crept up out of the blue, its been like a decade issue for the Vikings and the dome.

Freakout
11-22-2011, 09:06 PM
Because the team has the OPTION of not using public funds at all. They can CHOOSE to fund it themselves - or with the help of the county or other private interests. Instead, they throw the burden at the State, then say, "Well...we tried. Not our fault."

But it is.

There are precedents to this - other teams have financed their stadiums themselves. Claiming that they "Need" state money is sort of smoke and mirrors.

In the end, they can choose to remain the Minnesota Vikings - even if they have to pay for their own stadium (And, thereby, gain the rights to ALL of the revenue generated). But, from the sound of things, they won't. They'll insist they need public funds, and dangle LA in the faces of the State Legislature.

Bottom line, while neither side is 100% right or wrong in this debacle, if the Vikings CHOOSE to leave, they do so because THEY chose to. That's where the "abandonment" element comes in.

Or, to put it another way, if your girlfriend says she'll only stay your girlfriend if you give her more money...what kind of girlfriend is she? I don't pick and choose winning seasons to buy Viking memorabilia. I don't only support them when they are on the up side of things. Yet that's what they're telling US...we only love you if you buy us a stadium...

Clearer now?

Caine

Nope. Unless you are intending to be completely unrealistic.

As for your analogy. So far the girlfriend is dating a cheap boyfriend that refuses to buy her shit. That kind of relationship REALLY works.....

Caine
11-23-2011, 06:05 AM
Some of those teams that choose to build it themselves still get the funding from other subsides, low or no interest bonds, grants, psl's and are in larger markets....unless they're in a really small market and they keep getting to printing off shares and sell them whenever they want. If the state choses to support the other teams and then try to force an extra year out of the old lease due to it not being usable for a couple of games last year, I'm not going to hold a grudge against the team, they are a business and have to lookout for themselves to a point as well. Its not like this has crept up out of the blue, its been like a decade issue for the Vikings and the dome.

Again, I am not advocating that the State not chip in, I am merely pointing out that the Vikings have a CHOICE....just as WE do if they move.

The analogies were to show that this is a VERY one-sided relationship. We spend our time and money supporting the team through thick and thin...but the assumption is that the team will "abandon" us if they don't get State $$$.

At the end of the day, Zygi has choices to make. If he chooses to remain in Minnesota and pushes forward with or without State funding, he sends a message to the fans that he really IS interested in building a relationship HERE. If he chooses LA, he shows he's just another Mercenary...and we, as fans, owe nothing to Mercenaries.

Caine

Caine
11-23-2011, 06:08 AM
Nope. Unless you are intending to be completely unrealistic.

As for your analogy. So far the girlfriend is dating a cheap boyfriend that refuses to buy her shit. That kind of relationship REALLY works.....

I've been buying their "shit" for YEARS...I have a closet full of it. I have shelves full of it. I've done my part, and then some. And now, when it really matters, they're possibly leaving anyway?

Loyalty is a 2-way street.

Caine

Marrdro
11-23-2011, 11:03 AM
WOW. Tempers Tempers my good friends. We are all in the same ship, just have different opinions on what way the Capt is taking her.

For me, I initially thought I would give up on them and try to find another team but that was mostly related to my assumption that the ownership group would be to blame for them leaving. Now that I'm aware of all the issues related to this (Thanks to our good friend NodakPaul) I am of the mind that I can't hold it against the owner.

Still, my loyalties to the team are imbedded, mostly because I was born and raised in MN and had family that cheered for the PUKERS and KC teams before we got the Vikes. I still remember all the "Fun" we had when those teams played each other......Most of you have heard my story about my uncles "wrestling" over games. In the end, I'm not sure I could cheer for either of those two teams no matter how hard I tried, especially the PUKERS. Heck, I can't even stand having one of their players on our team and refuse to even have them on my fantasy teams. :irked:

Additionally, I spent 22 years in the service. Anyone who has done anytime serving our country knows that the first question you usually get when you go to a new station/unit is "What team do you cheer for". Spent alot of years, gone from family and friends, talking to other sailors (who were missing thier families and friends) about my teams. Would be hard to get all that history back for the new team.

Leave or not, I will always be a Vikings fan. Its just there and it won't ever go away, not matter were they are located.

Will I be as avid of a fan? Probably not. I guess I would be more of a "Fan of the Game" than I am now and would rely more on the "Fantasy" aspect of the game to keep my interest at its top level and would probably have to gets some sort of patch for all my Jersies that said "Old School Original Fan" or something like that, but I would still follow them I guess.

On a side note........We (Wildwoman and the kids) talked about this the last 2 Sundays with the following of note.....

a. Wildwoman. We've been watching alot of the Seachickens. Seems she will probably go that way. I told her thats a hell of a long flight to see games, but the fan base is pretty good.

b. Baby Sister/Son-in-Law. For some reason like the Ravens. Mostly, I think, cause they are within driving distance and not the Deadskins.

c. Wildman. Probably would go with the Jags (he was born in Jax) but feels they are next to move. He is opting for the Pats. Loves the way the organization is always changing the team/evolving into a contender each and every year and because of how close they are compared to other teams.

Marrdro
11-23-2011, 11:30 AM
If not, I will follow the Cardinals but would likely never have the love I had for the Vikings and never have as much memorabilia.
Hmmmm, wonder how many hours it would take me to get up to a tailgate with ya?

marstc09
11-23-2011, 11:32 AM
Hmmmm, wonder how many hours it would take me to get up to a tailgate with ya?

What do you mean? Are you moving to this area?

Marrdro
11-23-2011, 11:52 AM
What do you mean? Are you moving to this area?
Naw, I would probably elect to pick a team (following the thread) that had someone I knew local.

MaxVike
11-23-2011, 12:02 PM
Which ones-Gordon Ramsay and Rachael Ray?:rofl:

For some reason, I found this to be fricken hilarious!

marstc09
11-23-2011, 12:26 PM
Naw, I would probably elect to pick a team (following the thread) that had someone I knew local.

I am liking being around Cardinals fans. They are down to earth people just like Viking fans. I am looking forward to following them more. I have not been to a forum yet but I know a few co-workers that are on them.

Lippythelion69
11-24-2011, 11:17 AM
Stop watching football altogether............