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carta4eva
09-04-2011, 08:26 PM
http://twitter.com/#!/TomPelissero


Like him as a backup to Ole 56, he's still a young player and if nothing else provides a little umph to our razor thin LB core (behind Chad and EJ)

MulletMullitia
09-04-2011, 10:13 PM
Love this signing! So much better than Herron.

Braddock
09-04-2011, 10:58 PM
How did he play against us last week? Depth is nice, but is this guy a liability if he plays?

carta4eva
09-04-2011, 11:15 PM
How did he play against us last week? Depth is nice, but is this guy a liability if he plays?

Not a world-beater... but more of a low risk/ high reward signing as he is young and had tons of talent coming out of Virginia Tech... his problem in college and the pros has been avoiding injuries (nagging or otherwise)

@ Mullet Mullitia-- yeah I was on edge with the Herron signing myself... just remembering how many times he screwed up a Kluwe punt inside the 5 by knocking it into the endzone during his first stint with our favorite team. :angry:

Freakout
09-05-2011, 12:35 AM
According to some Texan fan's Adibi was their best coverage linebacker but the knock on him was he played soft and of course the injuries.

Marrdro
09-05-2011, 12:46 AM
Wow, this is a suprise, especially considering the Texans scheme and that they have their own LB'r injury issues.

singersp
09-05-2011, 02:10 AM
Wow, this is a suprise, especially considering the Texans scheme and that they have their own LB'r injury issues.

The Texans had one of the worst defenses in all of football last year & we pick up their LB that wasn't even good enough to make their team when they are hurting at the LB position?

I'm going to go out on a limb & guess he wasn't a target because it saved them a ton of cap room.

Freakout
09-05-2011, 02:25 AM
Wow, this is a suprise, especially considering the Texans scheme and that they have their own LB'r injury issues.

The Texans had one of the worst defenses in all of football last year & we pick up their LB that wasn't even good enough to make their team when they are hurting at the LB position?

I'm going to go out on a limb & guess he wasn't a target because it saved them a ton of cap room.

He was also groomed as a OLB in a 4-3 defense that was switched to a ILB under Wade Phillips 3-4 scheme.

Could simply be a problem with the fit.

skum
09-05-2011, 04:47 AM
To make room we cut Reisner, will proberly be on the PS.

Marrdro
09-05-2011, 11:26 AM
Wow, this is a suprise, especially considering the Texans scheme and that they have their own LB'r injury issues.

The Texans had one of the worst defenses in all of football last year & we pick up their LB that wasn't even good enough to make their team when they are hurting at the LB position?

I'm going to go out on a limb & guess he wasn't a target because it saved them a ton of cap room.
Don't focus on last year. You do know what they are trying to do down there right.

Again, very suprising move.

Marrdro
09-05-2011, 11:27 AM
Wow, this is a suprise, especially considering the Texans scheme and that they have their own LB'r injury issues.

The Texans had one of the worst defenses in all of football last year & we pick up their LB that wasn't even good enough to make their team when they are hurting at the LB position?

I'm going to go out on a limb & guess he wasn't a target because it saved them a ton of cap room.

He was also groomed as a OLB in a 4-3 defense that was switched to a ILB under Wade Phillips 3-4 scheme.

Could simply be a problem with the fit.
Ahhh, wasn't aware they were trying to make him an ILB. Makes sense now. Wonder why they were trying that little stunt.

Marrdro
09-05-2011, 11:28 AM
To make room we cut Reisner, will proberly be on the PS.
I liked that kid. Wonder why we wouldn't let one of our plethora of Centers go instead?

carta4eva
09-05-2011, 01:35 PM
With another signing (or two) eminent, I'm hoping Seth Olsen/ Patrick Brown get the axe before either Coop or Fusco

Marrdro
09-05-2011, 04:21 PM
With another signing (or two) eminent, I'm hoping Seth Olsen/ Patrick Brown get the axe before either Coop or Fusco
Are you thinking one of them (Coop/Fusco) can move out to G? Its the only thing that I can come up with when it comes to keeping 3 C's.

marstc09
09-05-2011, 05:14 PM
With another signing (or two) eminent, I'm hoping Seth Olsen/ Patrick Brown get the axe before either Coop or Fusco
Are you thinking one of them (Coop/Fusco) can move out to G? Its the only thing that I can come up with when it comes to keeping 3 C's.

Frusco was projected by some as a G/OT and in fact he can play those positions.

skum
09-05-2011, 06:45 PM
With another signing (or two) eminent, I'm hoping Seth Olsen/ Patrick Brown get the axe before either Coop or Fusco
Are you thinking one of them (Coop/Fusco) can move out to G? Its the only thing that I can come up with when it comes to keeping 3 C's.

Frusco was projected by some as a G/OT and in fact he can play those positions.

Fusco was a tackle coming out of High School but hasnt played the position since, he started 44 games at center for Slippery Rock.

I wouldn't be comfortable with putting a guy like him out there if an injury comes and im very glad to have some tackles on the roster.

i_bleed_purple
09-05-2011, 06:56 PM
With another signing (or two) eminent, I'm hoping Seth Olsen/ Patrick Brown get the axe before either Coop or Fusco
Are you thinking one of them (Coop/Fusco) can move out to G? Its the only thing that I can come up with when it comes to keeping 3 C's.

Frusco was projected by some as a G/OT and in fact he can play those positions.'

lolRyanCook

marstc09
09-05-2011, 06:59 PM
With another signing (or two) eminent, I'm hoping Seth Olsen/ Patrick Brown get the axe before either Coop or Fusco
Are you thinking one of them (Coop/Fusco) can move out to G? Its the only thing that I can come up with when it comes to keeping 3 C's.

Frusco was projected by some as a G/OT and in fact he can play those positions.

Fusco was a tackle coming out of High School but hasnt played the position since, he started 44 games at center for Slippery Rock.

I wouldn't be comfortable with putting a guy like him out there if an injury comes and im very glad to have some tackles on the roster.

What is your point? He knows how to play the position. He is a professional. Center is a lot harder than Tackle or Guard.

Lets see what Fusco has to say about it.....


Q: All of the scouting reports say that you size and toughness but not sure you have the athleticism to be a starter. What do you think?

A: I disagree with that. I think I have the athleticism to play any position in the NFL, the guard, tackle, or center. Evidently the Vikings liked me a lot. If it has to be center, Iíll play center; Iíll play center. If itís to play guard, tackle, whatever. I think I have very good feet, good size. I think I can fit any way with the Vikings.

http://www.vikings.com/news/article-1/Vikings-Quotes---Slippery-Rock-OL-Brandon-Fusco---April-30/9f75c3f4-b06b-4fb2-9c28-e66bde026cc8

Thank you come again.

carta4eva
09-05-2011, 07:05 PM
With another signing (or two) eminent, I'm hoping Seth Olsen/ Patrick Brown get the axe before either Coop or Fusco
Are you thinking one of them (Coop/Fusco) can move out to G? Its the only thing that I can come up with when it comes to keeping 3 C's.

Exactly, both of them did get time at guard during the preseason as well (the play Fusco got the awful Personal foul penalty against the Texans, he was the Left Guard)

Marrdro
09-05-2011, 07:06 PM
With another signing (or two) eminent, I'm hoping Seth Olsen/ Patrick Brown get the axe before either Coop or Fusco
Are you thinking one of them (Coop/Fusco) can move out to G? Its the only thing that I can come up with when it comes to keeping 3 C's.

Frusco was projected by some as a G/OT and in fact he can play those positions.
Could be the plan. Truth of the matter is, almost all OLmen these days seem to be projected at multiple positions coming out.

Still doesn't really answer why they are carrying them as C's.

If your gonna use them as G or T, list them as a G or a T. That sure would clear things up a bit.

Marrdro
09-05-2011, 07:08 PM
With another signing (or two) eminent, I'm hoping Seth Olsen/ Patrick Brown get the axe before either Coop or Fusco
Are you thinking one of them (Coop/Fusco) can move out to G? Its the only thing that I can come up with when it comes to keeping 3 C's.

Frusco was projected by some as a G/OT and in fact he can play those positions.

Fusco was a tackle coming out of High School but hasnt played the position since, he started 44 games at center for Slippery Rock.

I wouldn't be comfortable with putting a guy like him out there if an injury comes and im very glad to have some tackles on the roster.
Good point Skum. Seems like our CAP problems have caused the staff to take a risk at a few positions.

i_bleed_purple
09-05-2011, 07:09 PM
With another signing (or two) eminent, I'm hoping Seth Olsen/ Patrick Brown get the axe before either Coop or Fusco
Are you thinking one of them (Coop/Fusco) can move out to G? Its the only thing that I can come up with when it comes to keeping 3 C's.

Frusco was projected by some as a G/OT and in fact he can play those positions.
Could be the plan. Truth of the matter is, almost all OLmen these days seem to be projected at multiple positions coming out.

Still doesn't really answer why they are carrying them as C's.

If your gonna use them as G or T, list them as a G or a T. That sure would clear things up a bit.

Just a wild guess, but I don't think they list players at specific positions to make understanding the back end of football easier for ol' Marty.

He was a C, got drafted as a C, and they have him as a C. In the end, does it matter if we have 3 C's and 2 Gs or 3 G and 2C? Not really.

Marrdro
09-05-2011, 07:09 PM
lolRyanCook
Exactly.

The question now is, who do we blame for our new batch of Cooks?

Coaching staff? Did they say, we're good with them......

or

FO Pukes? Did they tell the staff they are good with them?

Marrdro
09-05-2011, 07:11 PM
With another signing (or two) eminent, I'm hoping Seth Olsen/ Patrick Brown get the axe before either Coop or Fusco
Are you thinking one of them (Coop/Fusco) can move out to G? Its the only thing that I can come up with when it comes to keeping 3 C's.

Exactly, both of them did get time at guard during the preseason as well (the play Fusco got the awful Personal foul penalty against the Texans, he was the Left Guard)
I watched with interest the backups in front of Ponder in the last game.

At times he was given (OK) protection, but at others, well, he sure was breaking alot of tackles/hits in the backfield.

i_bleed_purple
09-05-2011, 07:12 PM
lolRyanCook
Exactly.

The question now is, who do we blame for our new batch of Cooks?

Coaching staff? Did they say, we're good with them......

or

FO Pukes? Did they tell the staff they are good with them?

Why exactly are we blaming them?

We drafted some OL, and they haven't even played a damn game yet. I don't think anybody is expecting them to come in and be all-pros. They're high-potential guys who may or may not pan out. You've noticed we do have alot of OL this year? They're hoping somebody emerges as a guy they can try to invest in. If not, well, they're late round picks for a reason.

carta4eva
09-05-2011, 07:18 PM
With another signing (or two) eminent, I'm hoping Seth Olsen/ Patrick Brown get the axe before either Coop or Fusco
Are you thinking one of them (Coop/Fusco) can move out to G? Its the only thing that I can come up with when it comes to keeping 3 C's.

Exactly, both of them did get time at guard during the preseason as well (the play Fusco got the awful Personal foul penalty against the Texans, he was the Left Guard)
I watched with interest the backups in front of Ponder in the last game.

At times he was given (OK) protection, but at others, well, he sure was breaking alot of tackles/hits in the backfield.

Thing I noticed about Mr. Slippery Rock was, he got to the second level in the running game with regularity on the evening, exciting to see that type of athleticism from an unheralded small-school prospect

i_bleed_purple
09-05-2011, 07:20 PM
exciting to see that type of athleticism from an unheralded small-school prospect

Oh god we haven't heard that one enough over the past 5 years.

Marrdro
09-05-2011, 07:25 PM
Do you really want to get in a pissing contest today? You know I can get alot fucking nastier than you can ever get.

Lets just talk football and leave the insults out of it.

[quote]He was a C, got drafted as a C, and they have him as a C. In the end, does it matter if we have 3 C's and 2 Gs or 3 G and 2C? Not really.
So your comfortable keeping players on the roster that don't necesarily provide quality depth at certain positions?

There is a reason they were projected as Centers. Mostly its related to their mobility (need more as they move out).

Cut however you want to cut it, we have 3 players projected to go as C's that were drafted as C's. Until the team clarifies it, I will still think in the back of my head, they are centers.

Mr Anderson
09-05-2011, 07:26 PM
Wow, this is a suprise, especially considering the Texans scheme and that they have their own LB'r injury issues.

The Texans had one of the worst defenses in all of football last year & we pick up their LB that wasn't even good enough to make their team when they are hurting at the LB position?

I'm going to go out on a limb & guess he wasn't a target because it saved them a ton of cap room.

He was also groomed as a OLB in a 4-3 defense that was switched to a ILB under Wade Phillips 3-4 scheme.

Could simply be a problem with the fit.
Ahhh, wasn't aware they were trying to make him an ILB. Makes sense now. Wonder why they were trying that little stunt.
Also keep in mind DeMeco Ryans was out all season after week 6, Cushing had a suspension, they had a rookie out of Miami(Sharpton I think) who showed some flashes and they're now moving Mario Williams to outside linebacker... so there's a lot of turnover in their LB corps from last season til now. I think it's simply a square peg round hole/odd man out scenario.

Marrdro
09-05-2011, 07:28 PM
lolRyanCook
Exactly.

The question now is, who do we blame for our new batch of Cooks?

Coaching staff? Did they say, we're good with them......

or

FO Pukes? Did they tell the staff they are good with them?

Why exactly are we blaming them?

We drafted some OL, and they haven't even played a damn game yet. I don't think anybody is expecting them to come in and be all-pros. They're high-potential guys who may or may not pan out. You've noticed we do have alot of OL this year? They're hoping somebody emerges as a guy they can try to invest in. If not, well, they're late round picks for a reason.
It isn't what they have done at this point. We have starters to do that. Its what will we do when one of those starters goes down.

By the way, I'm not so sure I would call them high potential at this point.

Marrdro
09-05-2011, 07:30 PM
With another signing (or two) eminent, I'm hoping Seth Olsen/ Patrick Brown get the axe before either Coop or Fusco
Are you thinking one of them (Coop/Fusco) can move out to G? Its the only thing that I can come up with when it comes to keeping 3 C's.

Exactly, both of them did get time at guard during the preseason as well (the play Fusco got the awful Personal foul penalty against the Texans, he was the Left Guard)
I watched with interest the backups in front of Ponder in the last game.

At times he was given (OK) protection, but at others, well, he sure was breaking alot of tackles/hits in the backfield.

Thing I noticed about Mr. Slippery Rock was, he got to the second level in the running game with regularity on the evening, exciting to see that type of athleticism from an unheralded small-school prospect
A good observation, I missed that.

I will say this, he does have a bit of Nasty to him, which I like and think this team could use a bit more of.

marstc09
09-05-2011, 07:37 PM
With another signing (or two) eminent, I'm hoping Seth Olsen/ Patrick Brown get the axe before either Coop or Fusco
Are you thinking one of them (Coop/Fusco) can move out to G? Its the only thing that I can come up with when it comes to keeping 3 C's.

Frusco was projected by some as a G/OT and in fact he can play those positions.
Could be the plan. Truth of the matter is, almost all OLmen these days seem to be projected at multiple positions coming out.

Still doesn't really answer why they are carrying them as C's.

If your gonna use them as G or T, list them as a G or a T. That sure would clear things up a bit.

If they can play all positions then why do you need them listed? I don't. I am just fine without it.

marstc09
09-05-2011, 07:37 PM
With another signing (or two) eminent, I'm hoping Seth Olsen/ Patrick Brown get the axe before either Coop or Fusco
Are you thinking one of them (Coop/Fusco) can move out to G? Its the only thing that I can come up with when it comes to keeping 3 C's.

Frusco was projected by some as a G/OT and in fact he can play those positions.

Fusco was a tackle coming out of High School but hasnt played the position since, he started 44 games at center for Slippery Rock.

I wouldn't be comfortable with putting a guy like him out there if an injury comes and im very glad to have some tackles on the roster.
Good point Skum. Seems like our CAP problems have caused the staff to take a risk at a few positions.

What point?

marstc09
09-05-2011, 07:40 PM
With another signing (or two) eminent, I'm hoping Seth Olsen/ Patrick Brown get the axe before either Coop or Fusco
Are you thinking one of them (Coop/Fusco) can move out to G? Its the only thing that I can come up with when it comes to keeping 3 C's.

Frusco was projected by some as a G/OT and in fact he can play those positions.
Could be the plan. Truth of the matter is, almost all OLmen these days seem to be projected at multiple positions coming out.

Still doesn't really answer why they are carrying them as C's.

If your gonna use them as G or T, list them as a G or a T. That sure would clear things up a bit.

Just a wild guess, but I don't think they list players at specific positions to make understanding the back end of football easier for ol' Marty.

He was a C, got drafted as a C, and they have him as a C. In the end, does it matter if we have 3 C's and 2 Gs or 3 G and 2C? Not really.

Agreed. We have 10 OL. A few can play multiple positions. Who cares? When Cook was here it was OK to have 3 Cs but not now?

Marrdro
09-05-2011, 07:41 PM
With another signing (or two) eminent, I'm hoping Seth Olsen/ Patrick Brown get the axe before either Coop or Fusco
Are you thinking one of them (Coop/Fusco) can move out to G? Its the only thing that I can come up with when it comes to keeping 3 C's.

Frusco was projected by some as a G/OT and in fact he can play those positions.
Could be the plan. Truth of the matter is, almost all OLmen these days seem to be projected at multiple positions coming out.

Still doesn't really answer why they are carrying them as C's.

If your gonna use them as G or T, list them as a G or a T. That sure would clear things up a bit.

If they can play all positions then why do you need them listed? I don't. I am just fine without it.
Gotcha. I just hope that Herrera and Hutch stay healthy this year. Then it really doesn't matter.

marstc09
09-05-2011, 07:42 PM
lolRyanCook
Exactly.

The question now is, who do we blame for our new batch of Cooks?

Coaching staff? Did they say, we're good with them......

or

FO Pukes? Did they tell the staff they are good with them?

You are the only one with excuses and looking for people to blame. Cook sucked because of Cook. He is gone now. Thank you Leslie.

marstc09
09-05-2011, 07:43 PM
lolRyanCook
Exactly.

The question now is, who do we blame for our new batch of Cooks?

Coaching staff? Did they say, we're good with them......

or

FO Pukes? Did they tell the staff they are good with them?

Why exactly are we blaming them?

We drafted some OL, and they haven't even played a damn game yet. I don't think anybody is expecting them to come in and be all-pros. They're high-potential guys who may or may not pan out. You've noticed we do have alot of OL this year? They're hoping somebody emerges as a guy they can try to invest in. If not, well, they're late round picks for a reason.

Good points. Cook get a hundred years and these young guns get preseason. Give me a fucking break.

i_bleed_purple
09-05-2011, 07:45 PM
Just a wild guess, but I don't think they list players at specific positions to make understanding the back end of football easier for ol' Marty.


Do you really want to get in a pissing contest today? You know I can get alot fucking nastier than you can ever get.

Lets just talk football and leave the insults out of it.


He was a C, got drafted as a C, and they have him as a C. In the end, does it matter if we have 3 C's and 2 Gs or 3 G and 2C? Not really.

No insults my friend. Just saying there's a method for the madness. I don't care if they're listed as C's, G's or Kickers, as long as they do the job they need to do.


So your comfortable keeping players on the roster that don't necesarily provide quality depth at certain positions?
Bit of the ol' pot calling the kettle black here?

marstc09
09-05-2011, 07:46 PM
[quote="i_bleed_purple"

Just a wild guess, but I don't think they list players at specific positions to make understanding the back end of football easier for ol' Marty.


Do you really want to get in a pissing contest today? You know I can get alot fucking nastier than you can ever get.

Lets just talk football and leave the insults out of it.


He was a C, got drafted as a C, and they have him as a C. In the end, does it matter if we have 3 C's and 2 Gs or 3 G and 2C? Not really.
So your comfortable keeping players on the roster that don't necesarily provide quality depth at certain positions?

There is a reason they were projected as Centers. Mostly its related to their mobility (need more as they move out).

Cut however you want to cut it, we have 3 players projected to go as C's that were drafted as C's. Until the team clarifies it, I will still think in the back of my head, they are centers.[/quote]

Who does not provide quality depth? Frusco was projected by some more than a Center. Cut it however you want to cut it.

Marrdro
09-05-2011, 07:47 PM
With another signing (or two) eminent, I'm hoping Seth Olsen/ Patrick Brown get the axe before either Coop or Fusco
Are you thinking one of them (Coop/Fusco) can move out to G? Its the only thing that I can come up with when it comes to keeping 3 C's.

Frusco was projected by some as a G/OT and in fact he can play those positions.

Fusco was a tackle coming out of High School but hasnt played the position since, he started 44 games at center for Slippery Rock.

I wouldn't be comfortable with putting a guy like him out there if an injury comes and im very glad to have some tackles on the roster.
Good point Skum. Seems like our CAP problems have caused the staff to take a risk at a few positions.

What point?
Comfort level. Not sure if I've seen enough to make mine any higher than what he seems to feel.

At some point, I guess, you have to trust the staff to make the right decisiion.

marstc09
09-05-2011, 07:47 PM
lolRyanCook
Exactly.

The question now is, who do we blame for our new batch of Cooks?

Coaching staff? Did they say, we're good with them......

or

FO Pukes? Did they tell the staff they are good with them?

Why exactly are we blaming them?

We drafted some OL, and they haven't even played a damn game yet. I don't think anybody is expecting them to come in and be all-pros. They're high-potential guys who may or may not pan out. You've noticed we do have alot of OL this year? They're hoping somebody emerges as a guy they can try to invest in. If not, well, they're late round picks for a reason.
It isn't what they have done at this point. We have starters to do that. Its what will we do when one of those starters goes down.

By the way, I'm not so sure I would call them high potential at this point.

I am pretty sure you called Cook high potential.

marstc09
09-05-2011, 07:49 PM
With another signing (or two) eminent, I'm hoping Seth Olsen/ Patrick Brown get the axe before either Coop or Fusco
Are you thinking one of them (Coop/Fusco) can move out to G? Its the only thing that I can come up with when it comes to keeping 3 C's.

Frusco was projected by some as a G/OT and in fact he can play those positions.
Could be the plan. Truth of the matter is, almost all OLmen these days seem to be projected at multiple positions coming out.

Still doesn't really answer why they are carrying them as C's.

If your gonna use them as G or T, list them as a G or a T. That sure would clear things up a bit.

If they can play all positions then why do you need them listed? I don't. I am just fine without it.
Gotcha. I just hope that Herrera and Hutch stay healthy this year. Then it really doesn't matter.

I think we all want that.

Marrdro
09-05-2011, 07:50 PM
lolRyanCook
Exactly.

The question now is, who do we blame for our new batch of Cooks?

Coaching staff? Did they say, we're good with them......

or

FO Pukes? Did they tell the staff they are good with them?

You are the only one with excuses and looking for people to blame. Cook sucked because of Cook. He is gone now. Thank you Leslie.
Back to Cook again ehh.

Who did you blame for Cook? Cook?

Not me, I blame Childress and company for putting him out there in a position he was not only "Not" projected to play at, but wasn't ready to play at.

marstc09
09-05-2011, 07:51 PM
With another signing (or two) eminent, I'm hoping Seth Olsen/ Patrick Brown get the axe before either Coop or Fusco
Are you thinking one of them (Coop/Fusco) can move out to G? Its the only thing that I can come up with when it comes to keeping 3 C's.

Frusco was projected by some as a G/OT and in fact he can play those positions.

Fusco was a tackle coming out of High School but hasnt played the position since, he started 44 games at center for Slippery Rock.

I wouldn't be comfortable with putting a guy like him out there if an injury comes and im very glad to have some tackles on the roster.
Good point Skum. Seems like our CAP problems have caused the staff to take a risk at a few positions.

What point?
Comfort level. Not sure if I've seen enough to make mine any higher than what he seems to feel.

At some point, I guess, you have to trust the staff to make the right decisiion.

Does anyone have a comfort level with backups? Still has nothing to do with the fact that Frusco can play G and T.

i_bleed_purple
09-05-2011, 07:51 PM
lolRyanCook
Exactly.

The question now is, who do we blame for our new batch of Cooks?

Coaching staff? Did they say, we're good with them......

or

FO Pukes? Did they tell the staff they are good with them?

You are the only one with excuses and looking for people to blame. Cook sucked because of Cook. He is gone now. Thank you Leslie.
Back to Cook again ehh.

Who did you blame for Cook? Cook?

Not me, I blame Childress and company for putting him out there in a position he was not only "Not" projected to play at, but wasn't ready to play at.
Then who's fault was it he couldn't play C or G either?

Fact is, he had a chance to play all positions on the line, while yes, I think he's not suited for T, and was much better inside, he still wasn't good. The man simply can not be a starter for us.

MulletMullitia
09-05-2011, 07:58 PM
lolRyanCook
Exactly.

The question now is, who do we blame for our new batch of Cooks?

Coaching staff? Did they say, we're good with them......

or

FO Pukes? Did they tell the staff they are good with them?

You are the only one with excuses and looking for people to blame. Cook sucked because of Cook. He is gone now. Thank you Leslie.
Back to Cook again ehh.

Who did you blame for Cook? Cook?

Not me, I blame Childress and company for putting him out there in a position he was not only "Not" projected to play at, but wasn't ready to play at.
Then who's fault was it he couldn't play C or G either?

Fact is, he had a chance to play all positions on the line, while yes, I think he's not suited for T, and was much better inside, he still wasn't good. The man simply can not be a starter for us.

He can't be a starter for anyone. I don't even think he is a serviceable back-up. He is a liabiity. Period. At any position.

marstc09
09-05-2011, 07:58 PM
lolRyanCook
Exactly.

The question now is, who do we blame for our new batch of Cooks?

Coaching staff? Did they say, we're good with them......

or

FO Pukes? Did they tell the staff they are good with them?

You are the only one with excuses and looking for people to blame. Cook sucked because of Cook. He is gone now. Thank you Leslie.
Back to Cook again ehh.

Who did you blame for Cook? Cook?

Not me, I blame Childress and company for putting him out there in a position he was not only "Not" projected to play at, but wasn't ready to play at.

Yup if it is ok for you to blow up Favre, I have every right to fuck with Cook.

I just got done saying I blamed Cook. You quoted it. :blink:

Don't give me that crap on "not projected to play at". Cook has played T before. It is not like they asked him to play LB. If I am not mistaken, Cook was projected as a Center but they said he could move to the outside. We wnet over that countless times over the years. He is smart enough for center. He is smart enough for T. Cook failed Cook, not Chilly. He sucks at Center, Guard, and Tackle. He sucks.

Marrdro
09-05-2011, 08:02 PM
lolRyanCook
Exactly.

The question now is, who do we blame for our new batch of Cooks?

Coaching staff? Did they say, we're good with them......

or

FO Pukes? Did they tell the staff they are good with them?

You are the only one with excuses and looking for people to blame. Cook sucked because of Cook. He is gone now. Thank you Leslie.
Back to Cook again ehh.

Who did you blame for Cook? Cook?

Not me, I blame Childress and company for putting him out there in a position he was not only "Not" projected to play at, but wasn't ready to play at.

Yup if it is ok for you to blow up Favre, I have every right to fuck with Cook.

I just got done saying I blamed Cook. You quoted it. :blink:

Don't give me that crap on "not projected to play at". Cook has played T before. It is not like they asked him to play LB. If I am not mistaken, Cook was projected as a Center but they said he could move to the outside. We wnet over that countless times over the years. He is smart enough for center. He is smart enough for T. Cook failed Cook, not Chilly.
We've, well most of us, have moved on from the Noodle. Sure theres a wise crack everyonce in awhile that no one can defend anymore.

In the end, blame him all you want. He isn't here anymore. I have now moved on to issues of more concern.

Cats like the Noodle and Cook are nothing more than the past.

MulletMullitia
09-05-2011, 10:25 PM
lolRyanCook
Exactly.

The question now is, who do we blame for our new batch of Cooks?

Coaching staff? Did they say, we're good with them......

or

FO Pukes? Did they tell the staff they are good with them?

You are the only one with excuses and looking for people to blame. Cook sucked because of Cook. He is gone now. Thank you Leslie.
Back to Cook again ehh.

Who did you blame for Cook? Cook?

Not me, I blame Childress and company for putting him out there in a position he was not only "Not" projected to play at, but wasn't ready to play at.

He sucks at Center, Guard, and Tackle. He sucks.

I've been trying to explain this to Dolphins fans over at their forum, but most of them just don't get it. They think he is a young, versatile, good signing. I tried to tell them. Don't buy into the Brad Childress hype! He sucks at every position. But I guess we are to blame for their false hopes. We justified his bad play for years. I guess they will just have to find out for themselves. He is a liability, and a penalty machine. I wouldn't put him on my PRACTICE team for the league minimum. Good riddance "Concrete Feet". You will not be missed.

MaxVike
09-05-2011, 11:01 PM
Is this a Xavier Adibi topic????????????? Or, a platform to continue the fucking annoying quibbling about players and coaches gone by?

Re: Adibi...I liked his potential when he was coming in to the NFL. Seems like he hasn't lived up to his potential. He has all of the necessary particulars, hopefully he is able to help us out a bit. He was the only LB I saw on the cut lists that was of any interest.

carta4eva
09-05-2011, 11:14 PM
Is this a Xavier Adibi topic????????????? Or, a platform to continue the fucking annoying quibbling about players and coaches gone by?

Re: Adibi...I liked his potential when he was coming in to the NFL. Seems like he hasn't lived up to his potential. He has all of the necessary particulars, hopefully he is able to help us out a bit. He was the only LB I saw on the cut lists that was of any interest.

I wondered the same thing when I opened up this thread and started seeing all the cook bashing...

ultravikingfan
09-05-2011, 11:20 PM
Is this a Xavier Adibi topic????????????? Or, a platform to continue the fucking annoying quibbling about players and coaches gone by?

Re: Adibi...I liked his potential when he was coming in to the NFL. Seems like he hasn't lived up to his potential. He has all of the necessary particulars, hopefully he is able to help us out a bit. He was the only LB I saw on the cut lists that was of any interest.

Good point.

People, stop derailing threads.

And you know who I am referring to!

Purple Floyd
09-06-2011, 01:45 AM
With another signing (or two) eminent, I'm hoping Seth Olsen/ Patrick Brown get the axe before either Coop or Fusco
Are you thinking one of them (Coop/Fusco) can move out to G? Its the only thing that I can come up with when it comes to keeping 3 C's.

Frusco was projected by some as a G/OT and in fact he can play those positions.

Fusco was a tackle coming out of High School but hasnt played the position since, he started 44 games at center for Slippery Rock.

I wouldn't be comfortable with putting a guy like him out there if an injury comes and im very glad to have some tackles on the roster.
Good point Skum. Seems like our CAP problems have caused the staff to take a risk at a few positions.

That is the price they pay for letting Chilly have too much say over the roster and let him get them in this mess. Poor Leslie has to work with the aftermath.

Purple Floyd
09-06-2011, 01:46 AM
lolRyanCook
Exactly.

The question now is, who do we blame for our new batch of Cooks?

Coaching staff? Did they say, we're good with them......

or

FO Pukes? Did they tell the staff they are good with them?

Really? How many of those guys did the FO pukes give up a draft pick to move up and get? Sorry buddy. That one is a Chiller exclusive...

Purple Floyd
09-06-2011, 01:50 AM
lolRyanCook
Exactly.

The question now is, who do we blame for our new batch of Cooks?

Coaching staff? Did they say, we're good with them......

or

FO Pukes? Did they tell the staff they are good with them?

You are the only one with excuses and looking for people to blame. Cook sucked because of Cook. He is gone now. Thank you Leslie.
Back to Cook again ehh.

Who did you blame for Cook? Cook?

Not me, I blame Childress and company for putting him out there in a position he was not only "Not" projected to play at, but wasn't ready to play at.

Well you could certainly characterize that statement with any position on the line. Really the only thing he might have been rated at in NFL caliber terms is a waterboy.

i_bleed_purple
09-06-2011, 02:10 AM
lolRyanCook
Exactly.

The question now is, who do we blame for our new batch of Cooks?

Coaching staff? Did they say, we're good with them......

or

FO Pukes? Did they tell the staff they are good with them?

Really? How many of those guys did the FO pukes give up a draft pick to move up and get? Sorry buddy. That one is a Chiller exclusive...

Also, don't forget trade away a guy who has had multiple 4000+ yard passing seasons for us to acquire a pick to trade up with to get a sixth round rated center.

Zeus
09-06-2011, 01:39 PM
Is this a Xavier Adibi topic????????????? Or, a platform to continue the fucking annoying quibbling about players and coaches gone by?

Re: Adibi...I liked his potential when he was coming in to the NFL. Seems like he hasn't lived up to his potential. He has all of the necessary particulars, hopefully he is able to help us out a bit. He was the only LB I saw on the cut lists that was of any interest.

Good point.

People, stop derailing threads.

And you know who I am referring to!

+1

=Z=

Marrdro
09-06-2011, 03:25 PM
I've been trying to explain this to Dolphins fans over at their forum, but most of them just don't get it. They think he is a young, versatile, good signing. I tried to tell them. Don't buy into the Brad Childress hype! He sucks at every position. But I guess we are to blame for their false hopes. We justified his bad play for years. I guess they will just have to find out for themselves. He is a liability, and a penalty machine. I wouldn't put him on my PRACTICE team for the league minimum. Good riddance "Concrete Feet". You will not be missed.
Why even bother? Their fans don't make decisions.

Its more important that you and the Dolphins staff agree. :laugh:

Marrdro
09-06-2011, 03:29 PM
Good point.

People, stop derailing threads.

And you know who I am referring to!
Probably me. I've derailed more threads on here than probably anyone. I do, however, wait until someone actually gives me a opportunity to though.

My apologies but be warned, I will do it again especially when no one else is talking about the thread topic.

tarkenton10
09-06-2011, 03:41 PM
With another signing (or two) eminent, I'm hoping Seth Olsen/ Patrick Brown get the axe before either Coop or Fusco
Are you thinking one of them (Coop/Fusco) can move out to G? Its the only thing that I can come up with when it comes to keeping 3 C's.

If Cooper hasn't beat out Sullivan by now then he won't. If they kept Fusco, a young kid from a div II (I don't know that football subdivision crap)school that will take a few years to catch up & coach up. My guess is they like Fusco to be our center of the future and Cooper will be moved to guard. Just an educated guess and you know how eductaed I am from my posts, Ha, Ha!!

Marrdro
09-06-2011, 03:45 PM
With another signing (or two) eminent, I'm hoping Seth Olsen/ Patrick Brown get the axe before either Coop or Fusco
Are you thinking one of them (Coop/Fusco) can move out to G? Its the only thing that I can come up with when it comes to keeping 3 C's.

If Cooper hasn't beat out Sullivan by now then he won't. If they kept Fusco, a young kid from a div II (I don't know that football subdivision crap)school that will take a few years to catch up & coach up. My guess is they like Fusco to be our center of the future and Cooper will be moved to guard. Just an educated guess and you know how eductaed I am from my posts, Ha, Ha!!
Good points my friend, but we have our marching orders. This thread is about Adibi.

tarkenton10
09-06-2011, 03:50 PM
With another signing (or two) eminent, I'm hoping Seth Olsen/ Patrick Brown get the axe before either Coop or Fusco
Are you thinking one of them (Coop/Fusco) can move out to G? Its the only thing that I can come up with when it comes to keeping 3 C's.

If Cooper hasn't beat out Sullivan by now then he won't. If they kept Fusco, a young kid from a div II (I don't know that football subdivision crap)school that will take a few years to catch up & coach up. My guess is they like Fusco to be our center of the future and Cooper will be moved to guard. Just an educated guess and you know how eductaed I am from my posts, Ha, Ha!!
Good points my friend, but we have our marching orders. This thread is about Adibi.

Oh well,then crap I don't know what to say...................ah let me think. Ok, Adibi is a good athlete and can play in space. When motivated can lay the wood too. Overall very good talent coming out of college. Will he be motivated to play to the best of his ability? Can he avoid injuries, we shall see? Looks like Frazier is going for athleticism and will try to coach them up rather than have solid players for special teams. If you look at the backup much better athletes than Farewell but can they play up to their potential.

snowinapril
09-06-2011, 04:00 PM
With another signing (or two) eminent, I'm hoping Seth Olsen/ Patrick Brown get the axe before either Coop or Fusco
Are you thinking one of them (Coop/Fusco) can move out to G? Its the only thing that I can come up with when it comes to keeping 3 C's.

If Cooper hasn't beat out Sullivan by now then he won't. If they kept Fusco, a young kid from a div II (I don't know that football subdivision crap)school that will take a few years to catch up & coach up. My guess is they like Fusco to be our center of the future and Cooper will be moved to guard. Just an educated guess and you know how eductaed I am from my posts, Ha, Ha!!
Good points my friend, but we have our marching orders. This thread is about Adibi.

Oh well,then crap I don't know what to say...................ah let me think. Ok, Adibi is a good athlete and can play in space. When motivated can lay the wood too. Overall very good talent coming out of college. Will he be motivated to play to the best of his ability? Can he avoid injuries, we shall see? Looks like Frazier is going for athleticism and will try to coach them up rather than have solid players for special teams. If you look at the backup much better athletes than Farewell but can they play up to their potential.

Got to go with younger players, it is about the money and the upside.

The comment I heard Mayock make during the game while Speilman was in the booth was (paraphrased) "an experienced guy like Farwell is maxing out his dollar potential, Heath and wife just had baby, great guy, great special teamer." Speilman didn't say anything. Farwell did a great job, came to work everyday and gave it his all. Reality is that Adibi, and other young players will get their shots and as guys like Farwell get older, they will become casualties to the young guys like Adibi.

Marrdro
09-06-2011, 04:15 PM
With another signing (or two) eminent, I'm hoping Seth Olsen/ Patrick Brown get the axe before either Coop or Fusco
Are you thinking one of them (Coop/Fusco) can move out to G? Its the only thing that I can come up with when it comes to keeping 3 C's.

If Cooper hasn't beat out Sullivan by now then he won't. If they kept Fusco, a young kid from a div II (I don't know that football subdivision crap)school that will take a few years to catch up & coach up. My guess is they like Fusco to be our center of the future and Cooper will be moved to guard. Just an educated guess and you know how eductaed I am from my posts, Ha, Ha!!
Good points my friend, but we have our marching orders. This thread is about Adibi.

Oh well,then crap I don't know what to say...................ah let me think. Ok, Adibi is a good athlete and can play in space. When motivated can lay the wood too. Overall very good talent coming out of college. Will he be motivated to play to the best of his ability? Can he avoid injuries, we shall see? Looks like Frazier is going for athleticism and will try to coach them up rather than have solid players for special teams. If you look at the backup much better athletes than Farewell but can they play up to their potential.

Got to go with younger players, it is about the money and the upside.

The comment I heard Mayock make during the game while Speilman was in the booth was (paraphrased) "an experienced guy like Farwell is maxing out his dollar potential, Heath and wife just had baby, great guy, great special teamer." Speilman didn't say anything. Farwell did a great job, came to work everyday and gave it his all. Reality is that Adibi, and other young players will get their shots and as guys like Farwell get older, they will become casualties to the young guys like Adibi.
Good stuff guys.

I read in one of the articles this morning that Frazier didn't even discuss CAP implications with Spielman and crew before he made the cuts.

Kindof an eye opener.

Zeus
09-06-2011, 04:39 PM
With another signing (or two) eminent, I'm hoping Seth Olsen/ Patrick Brown get the axe before either Coop or Fusco
Are you thinking one of them (Coop/Fusco) can move out to G? Its the only thing that I can come up with when it comes to keeping 3 C's.

If Cooper hasn't beat out Sullivan by now then he won't. If they kept Fusco, a young kid from a div II (I don't know that football subdivision crap)school that will take a few years to catch up & coach up. My guess is they like Fusco to be our center of the future and Cooper will be moved to guard. Just an educated guess and you know how eductaed I am from my posts, Ha, Ha!!
Good points my friend, but we have our marching orders. This thread is about Adibi.

Oh well,then crap I don't know what to say...................ah let me think. Ok, Adibi is a good athlete and can play in space. When motivated can lay the wood too. Overall very good talent coming out of college. Will he be motivated to play to the best of his ability? Can he avoid injuries, we shall see? Looks like Frazier is going for athleticism and will try to coach them up rather than have solid players for special teams. If you look at the backup much better athletes than Farewell but can they play up to their potential.

Got to go with younger players, it is about the money and the upside.

The comment I heard Mayock make during the game while Speilman was in the booth was (paraphrased) "an experienced guy like Farwell is maxing out his dollar potential, Heath and wife just had baby, great guy, great special teamer." Speilman didn't say anything. Farwell did a great job, came to work everyday and gave it his all. Reality is that Adibi, and other young players will get their shots and as guys like Farwell get older, they will become casualties to the young guys like Adibi.
Good stuff guys.

I read in one of the articles this morning that Frazier didn't even discuss CAP implications with Spielman and crew before he made the cuts.

Kindof an eye opener.

Re: Adibi - don't know anything about him.

As to the other matter, I think they were afraid of Larry Dean turning into the next Mike Singletary on someone else's team. Or, perhaps more appropriate, the next Sam Mills.

=Z=

Marrdro
09-06-2011, 04:46 PM
With another signing (or two) eminent, I'm hoping Seth Olsen/ Patrick Brown get the axe before either Coop or Fusco
Are you thinking one of them (Coop/Fusco) can move out to G? Its the only thing that I can come up with when it comes to keeping 3 C's.

If Cooper hasn't beat out Sullivan by now then he won't. If they kept Fusco, a young kid from a div II (I don't know that football subdivision crap)school that will take a few years to catch up & coach up. My guess is they like Fusco to be our center of the future and Cooper will be moved to guard. Just an educated guess and you know how eductaed I am from my posts, Ha, Ha!!
Good points my friend, but we have our marching orders. This thread is about Adibi.

Oh well,then crap I don't know what to say...................ah let me think. Ok, Adibi is a good athlete and can play in space. When motivated can lay the wood too. Overall very good talent coming out of college. Will he be motivated to play to the best of his ability? Can he avoid injuries, we shall see? Looks like Frazier is going for athleticism and will try to coach them up rather than have solid players for special teams. If you look at the backup much better athletes than Farewell but can they play up to their potential.

Got to go with younger players, it is about the money and the upside.

The comment I heard Mayock make during the game while Speilman was in the booth was (paraphrased) "an experienced guy like Farwell is maxing out his dollar potential, Heath and wife just had baby, great guy, great special teamer." Speilman didn't say anything. Farwell did a great job, came to work everyday and gave it his all. Reality is that Adibi, and other young players will get their shots and as guys like Farwell get older, they will become casualties to the young guys like Adibi.
Good stuff guys.

I read in one of the articles this morning that Frazier didn't even discuss CAP implications with Spielman and crew before he made the cuts.

Kindof an eye opener.

Re: Adibi - don't know anything about him.

As to the other matter, I think they were afraid of Larry Dean turning into the next Mike Singletary on someone else's team. Or, perhaps more appropriate, the next Sam Mills.

=Z=
I saw him play once (Pheobus High School) and thought he would be a good backer at this level.

Never thought he would ever be a Viking though.