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SoDakfan
08-25-2011, 02:53 AM
I rarely post, but around this time I always enjoy predicting the roster. Haven't seen any recent posts on this, but forgive me if I'm starting a repetitive thread. Without further ado, my predictions:

QB: D. McNabb, C. Ponder, J. Webb. No surprises here.

RB: A. Peterson, T. Gerhart, L. Booker. Again, no surprises. Caleb King to practice squad.

FB: R. D'Imperio. I've seen D'Imperio in enough packages in the pre-season that I believe they'll keep him on in the FB position. His special teams play doesn't hurt his chances, either.

WR: P. Harvin, M. Jenkins, D. Aromashodu, J. Johnson, J. Iglesias, G. Camarillo. I think the Vikings are going to part ways with Berrian. Younger receivers like Iglesias, Aromashodu, and Jaymar have shown as much or more ability than Berrian, and the Vikings will go with less expensive youth at the position. Stephen Burton and Emmanuel Arceneaux to practice squad.

TE: K. Rudolph, V. Shiancoe, J. Kleinsasser, A. Reisner. Jeff Dugan is the odd man out here, but then again I count him out every year and he always proves me wrong.

OT: C. Johnson, P. Loadholt, D. Love. Thomas Welch to practice squad.

OG: S. Hutchinson, A. Herrera, C. DeGeare, R. Cook. There have been rumblings of Herrera's demise, but I just don't see who else earns a starting position, especially with Kooistra (who had shown some flashes) on IR. Ryan Cook's versatility keeps him on the roster. Seth Olsen to practice squad.

C: J. Sullivan, B. Fusco. It seems like a toss-up between Fusco and Jon Cooper, but I'll go with the younger guy.


DE: B. Robison, J. Allen, E. Griffen, A. Awasom. For name's sake, I want Stylez to make the team, but then again Awasom isn't so shabby a name either. Awasom has shown enough upside to fend off Stylez. D'Aundre Reed to practice squad.

DT: K. Williams, R. Ayodele, L. Guion, C. Ballard. Fred Evans is odd man out, though considering Williams' injury perhaps they keep 5 DTs.

LB: EJ Henderson, Erin Henderson, C. Greenway, J. Brinkley, H. Farwell, L. Dean. I think Larry Dean is the next Heath Farwell -- an undrafted FA who proves a stud on special teams and is a Vike for years to come. Hate to count out Kenny Onatalu, but his injury in camp hurts his chances. Ross Homan to practice squad.

CB: A. Winfield, C. Griffin, C. Cook, M. Sherels, B. Burton. Asher Allen's time with the Vikes is over, thanks to M. Sherels' emergence. Tony Carter to practice squad.

S: H. Abdullah, M. Raymond, J. Sanford, T. Johnson, E. Frampton. The weakness of this position saddens me every year. I don't think any of these guys would be a lock to even make the team on many other rosters.
There has been a lot of buzz about Mistral Raymond, but I'm left to wonder if that isn't mostly due to the others on the roster being relative duds.

K: R. Longwell

P: C. Kluwe

LS: C. Loeffler

And, finally, 5 guys I think really need to "break out" this year for Vikings' success: Phil Loadholt; Kyle Rudolph; Letroy Guion, Erin Henderson, and ANY SAFETY THAT CAN (I'm not very confident on the last one).

Pick it apart. I'm most interested in thoughts on the receivers -- I think that's the most interesting position to ponder.

i_bleed_purple
08-25-2011, 03:04 AM
My guess:

QB: McNabb, Webb, Ponder
RB: AP, Gerhart, Booker
FB/TE: Shank, Rudolph, Sauce, D'Imperio
WR: Harvin, Jenkins, Berrian, Aromashodu, Jaymar (Not a chance Berian gets cut)
OT: CJohnson, Loadholt, Love
OG: Hutch, Degeare, Cook (Herrerra will start season on PUP)
C: Sullivan, Cooper
(23 players)


DE: Rob, Allen, Griffen, Awasom, Reed
DT: KW, Ayodele, Guion, Ballard, Evans
OLB: Greenway, Erin, Onatolu, Farwell,
MLB: EJ, Brinkley
CB: Winfield, Griffin, Cook, Asher, Sherels, Burton
S: Abdullah, Johnson, Sanford, Frampton, Raymond
(26)


ST:
LS: Loeffler
P: Kluwe
K: Longwell
(3)

53 man roster

I think OL will be quite interesting. Guys like Love, Cooper, Cook, Degeare, have too much talent to straight up cut, but I'm not sure we will carry 9 linemen. A guy like Cook can back up all positions, might he push a guy like Cooper out? Who knows.

I see us goign with alot of Defense just for the special teamsers.

Having guys like Farwell, Onatolu, Sanford, Brinkley, Frampton and Raymond easily interchangable on ST will be key, especially on Kickoffs, as I bet we're goign to try and let them return and stop them within the 20 more often than not.

SoDakfan
08-25-2011, 03:12 AM
Interested as to why you think there's no way they'll cut Berrian. I just don't see what he brings to the table, especially considering his cost. I know he restructed his contract, but that was before the emergence of Aromashodu, Iglesias, and Jaymar was apparent. Like most, I just don't get Berrian's allure ... he rarely gets separation and his hands are suspect. I can envision a Bobby Wade-type departure for him.

i_bleed_purple
08-25-2011, 03:33 AM
Interested as to why you think there's no way they'll cut Berrian. I just don't see what he brings to the table, especially considering his cost. I know he restructed his contract, but that was before the emergence of Aromashodu, Iglesias, and Jaymar was apparent. Like most, I just don't get Berrian's allure ... he rarely gets separation and his hands are suspect. I can envision a Bobby Wade-type departure for him.

Considering he was hurt most of last year, and favre had a god-awful year, his previous two years had been decent.

Two seasons ago he had something like 700 yards, the year before almost 1000. Now, not fantastic, but pretty solid for what he is.

Fraizer says he's going to be a huge part of our offense, and as long as he stays healthy, he can be. No, he's not a true #1 guy, not a go-to, but he's a playmaker, something we NEED. He's restructured to a fairly inexpensive contract.

To compare, you want to keep a guy like Cam, who has done literally nothing for us, Aromashodu, who didn't top 200 yards last year, or Iglasias, who hasn't played a pro snap yet?

Berrian is the safe bet. Iglasias hasn't really impressed a whole lot, Arceneaux I just can't see making the roster at all.

Marrdro
08-25-2011, 01:17 PM
For some reason I haven't even tried to work this part yet this year......

Couple of questions:
1. I thought we could keep 54
2. How many are allowed on the PS
3. Can Arcenaux make it to the PS or does his CFL time count against him. I don't think it does.

Couple of factors:
1. I don't see the need for a FB.
2. I am not sure why mix of WR's we will keep. My guess is we will want a couple of PH's, a couple of Jenkins, and maybe 1 BB. Based on some stuff we've seen out of ST's work (returners) I'm not so sure JJ makes the squad this year.

QB:
1. D. McNabb
2. C. Ponder
3. J. Webb

RB
4. A. Peterson
5. T. Gerhart
6. L. Booker

FB – None (See TE’s)

WR
7. P. Harvin
8. M. Jenkins
9. B Berrian (Could be JJ here)
10. J Iglesias (or Aromashodu) Won’t keep both
11. M. Arceneaux (or G. Camarillo if they want more short/fast than they want possession)

TE (No need to keep a FB when Sauce, Dugan and possibly even Reisner can fill that role)
12. V. Shiancoe,
13. J. Kleinsasser
14. K. Rudolph
15. A. Reisner
16. J. Dugan

OT
17. C. Johnson
18. P. Loadholt
19. D. Love

OG
20. S. Hutchinson
21. A. Herrera
22. C. DeGeare
23. R. Cook

CENTER
24. J. Sullivan
25. B. Fusco (Could be Coop, just not sure at this point)

DE
26. B. Robison
27. J. Allen
28. E. Griffen
29. A. Awasom
30. D. Reed

DT
31. K. Williams
32. R. Ayodele
33. L. Guion
34. C. Ballard
35. Fred Evans (Only makes the roster until K-dubb returns or someone better comes along)

LB
36. EJ Henderson
37. Erin Henderson
38. C. Greenway
39. J. Brinkley
40. L. Dean
41. K. Onatalu

CB
42. A. Winfield
43. C. Griffin
44. C. Cook
45. M. Sherels
46. A. Allen

S
47. H. Abdullah
48. J. Sanford
49. T. Johnson
50. M. Raymond
51. E. Frampton

ST
52. K: R. Longwell
53. P: C. Kluwe
54. LS: C. Loeffler

PS (How many can we keep this year)
J. Cooper
C. King
S. Burton
M. Arceneaux (If he doesn’t make a spot. Not sure if his CFL time makes him ineligible)
T. Welch
S. Olsen
R. Homan
B. Burton
T. Carter

SoDakfan
08-25-2011, 04:10 PM
To Marrdro's questions, I think the roster is still 53, the change being that a team can have 46 instead of 45 players active during any week. Also, my prediction assumed 8 practice squad players, but perhaps that's been changed. On the Arceneaux question, I assumed his CFL time doesn't count against him, but i didn't research the issue.

Marrdro
08-25-2011, 04:20 PM
To Marrdro's questions, I think the roster is still 53, the change being that a team can have 46 instead of 45 players active during any week. Also, my prediction assumed 8 practice squad players, but perhaps that's been changed. On the Arceneaux question, I assumed his CFL time doesn't count against him, but i didn't research the issue.
Good stuff my friend. Keep bringing quality stuff like this and I think you'll do fine on here.

Having said that.......

Not sure who my bubble boy will be. I'll make that call/adjustment after this weekends game. Might have to be a LB'r. Would love to jettison Evans but he has actually been doing OK so far and we need an extra body there because of K-dubbs status.

Again, keep it up. Good stuff.

Marrdro
09-01-2011, 02:48 PM
FULLBACK (0)
On the bubble: Ryan D'Imperio, Matt Asiata.

Comment: With versatile tight ends who can play fullback, it seems logical to go that route rather than keep one of two raw fullbacks on the roster.




CORNERBACK (6)
Starters: Antoine Winfield, Cedric Griffin.

Backups: Chris Cook, Marcus Sherels, Asher Allen, Brandon Burton.

On the bubble: Cord Parks, Devon Torrence, Tony Carter.

Comment: Another thin position that's weaker because Allen probably has to be kept on the roster despite a toe injury. Torrence's quad injury probably cost him a roster spot, but he's a likely practice-squad candidate.

SAFETY (4)
Starters: FS Husain Abdullah, SS Jamarca Stanford.

Backups: Tyrell Johnson, Eric Frampton.

On the bubble: Mistral Raymond.

Comment: The team says Sanford and Johnson are still fighting for starting SS spot. Raymond, a rookie sixth-round pick, could beat out Frampton, but it's more logical move is Raymond to the practice squad.




Projected Vikings roster (http://www.startribune.com/sports/vikings/128855723.html)
Six CB's ehhhhh.

HardcoreVikesFan
09-01-2011, 08:28 PM
I feel like they need to give Brandon Burton more of a chance, I really have liked what I have seen from him and Sherels. Not overly impressed at all with Cook, but not ready to give up on him because, as we all saw last year, depth is an important factor in deciding how well a team can hold up during the course of a season.

skum
09-02-2011, 03:18 AM
I really hope we keep Farwell, he told PA on KFAN that he think he was gonna make it, but wasn't sure..

i_bleed_purple
09-02-2011, 03:46 AM
I feel like they need to give Brandon Burton more of a chance, I really have liked what I have seen from him and Sherels. Not overly impressed at all with Cook, but not ready to give up on him because, as we all saw last year, depth is an important factor in deciding how well a team can hold up during the course of a season.

I see Burton making it for special teams in the beginning, but making an impact later on.

As for Cook, honestly it's impossible to say, the guy missed waaaaay too much time last season, he's essentially a rookie this eyar, just like Greenway was his second year. He's gonna get a chance to show what he can do. I like his athletic ability, and his raw skill, he's just gotta learn the NFL game. We saw him get toasted this preseason, but again, give him a bit of time. I hope he can be our #3, because he earned it, not gifted it; but he needs to do something.

gregair13
09-02-2011, 04:14 AM
Interested as to why you think there's no way they'll cut Berrian. I just don't see what he brings to the table, especially considering his cost. I know he restructed his contract, but that was before the emergence of Aromashodu, Iglesias, and Jaymar was apparent. Like most, I just don't get Berrian's allure ... he rarely gets separation and his hands are suspect. I can envision a Bobby Wade-type departure for him.

Considering he was hurt most of last year, and favre had a god-awful year, his previous two years had been decent.

Two seasons ago he had something like 700 yards, the year before almost 1000. Now, not fantastic, but pretty solid for what he is.

Fraizer says he's going to be a huge part of our offense, and as long as he stays healthy, he can be. No, he's not a true #1 guy, not a go-to, but he's a playmaker, something we NEED. He's restructured to a fairly inexpensive contract.

To compare, you want to keep a guy like Cam, who has done literally nothing for us, Aromashodu, who didn't top 200 yards last year, or Iglasias, who hasn't played a pro snap yet?

Berrian is the safe bet. Iglasias hasn't really impressed a whole lot, Arceneaux I just can't see making the roster at all.
Watching the cowboys game right now. Mcnabb and Berrian actually made a few connects. Cannot see us cutting him even though I hate him.

i_bleed_purple
09-02-2011, 04:17 AM
Interested as to why you think there's no way they'll cut Berrian. I just don't see what he brings to the table, especially considering his cost. I know he restructed his contract, but that was before the emergence of Aromashodu, Iglesias, and Jaymar was apparent. Like most, I just don't get Berrian's allure ... he rarely gets separation and his hands are suspect. I can envision a Bobby Wade-type departure for him.

Considering he was hurt most of last year, and favre had a god-awful year, his previous two years had been decent.

Two seasons ago he had something like 700 yards, the year before almost 1000. Now, not fantastic, but pretty solid for what he is.

Fraizer says he's going to be a huge part of our offense, and as long as he stays healthy, he can be. No, he's not a true #1 guy, not a go-to, but he's a playmaker, something we NEED. He's restructured to a fairly inexpensive contract.

To compare, you want to keep a guy like Cam, who has done literally nothing for us, Aromashodu, who didn't top 200 yards last year, or Iglasias, who hasn't played a pro snap yet?

Berrian is the safe bet. Iglasias hasn't really impressed a whole lot, Arceneaux I just can't see making the roster at all.
Watching the cowboys game right now. Mcnabb and Berrian actually made a few connects. Cannot see us cutting him even though I hate him.

I'll send you a purple bill in the mail if Berrian gets cut before week 4.

gregair13
09-02-2011, 04:24 AM
Interested as to why you think there's no way they'll cut Berrian. I just don't see what he brings to the table, especially considering his cost. I know he restructed his contract, but that was before the emergence of Aromashodu, Iglesias, and Jaymar was apparent. Like most, I just don't get Berrian's allure ... he rarely gets separation and his hands are suspect. I can envision a Bobby Wade-type departure for him.

Considering he was hurt most of last year, and favre had a god-awful year, his previous two years had been decent.

Two seasons ago he had something like 700 yards, the year before almost 1000. Now, not fantastic, but pretty solid for what he is.

Fraizer says he's going to be a huge part of our offense, and as long as he stays healthy, he can be. No, he's not a true #1 guy, not a go-to, but he's a playmaker, something we NEED. He's restructured to a fairly inexpensive contract.

To compare, you want to keep a guy like Cam, who has done literally nothing for us, Aromashodu, who didn't top 200 yards last year, or Iglasias, who hasn't played a pro snap yet?

Berrian is the safe bet. Iglasias hasn't really impressed a whole lot, Arceneaux I just can't see making the roster at all.
Watching the cowboys game right now. Mcnabb and Berrian actually made a few connects. Cannot see us cutting him even though I hate him.

I'll send you a purple bill in the mail if Berrian gets cut before week 4.
Challenge accepted.

i_bleed_purple
09-02-2011, 04:29 AM
Interested as to why you think there's no way they'll cut Berrian. I just don't see what he brings to the table, especially considering his cost. I know he restructed his contract, but that was before the emergence of Aromashodu, Iglesias, and Jaymar was apparent. Like most, I just don't get Berrian's allure ... he rarely gets separation and his hands are suspect. I can envision a Bobby Wade-type departure for him.

Considering he was hurt most of last year, and favre had a god-awful year, his previous two years had been decent.

Two seasons ago he had something like 700 yards, the year before almost 1000. Now, not fantastic, but pretty solid for what he is.

Fraizer says he's going to be a huge part of our offense, and as long as he stays healthy, he can be. No, he's not a true #1 guy, not a go-to, but he's a playmaker, something we NEED. He's restructured to a fairly inexpensive contract.

To compare, you want to keep a guy like Cam, who has done literally nothing for us, Aromashodu, who didn't top 200 yards last year, or Iglasias, who hasn't played a pro snap yet?

Berrian is the safe bet. Iglasias hasn't really impressed a whole lot, Arceneaux I just can't see making the roster at all.
Watching the cowboys game right now. Mcnabb and Berrian actually made a few connects. Cannot see us cutting him even though I hate him.

I'll send you a purple bill in the mail if Berrian gets cut before week 4.
Challenge accepted.

Do you agree to return the favor?

I'll send you a tenner, gonna do the same if you lose?

gregair13
09-02-2011, 04:31 AM
Interested as to why you think there's no way they'll cut Berrian. I just don't see what he brings to the table, especially considering his cost. I know he restructed his contract, but that was before the emergence of Aromashodu, Iglesias, and Jaymar was apparent. Like most, I just don't get Berrian's allure ... he rarely gets separation and his hands are suspect. I can envision a Bobby Wade-type departure for him.

Considering he was hurt most of last year, and favre had a god-awful year, his previous two years had been decent.

Two seasons ago he had something like 700 yards, the year before almost 1000. Now, not fantastic, but pretty solid for what he is.

Fraizer says he's going to be a huge part of our offense, and as long as he stays healthy, he can be. No, he's not a true #1 guy, not a go-to, but he's a playmaker, something we NEED. He's restructured to a fairly inexpensive contract.

To compare, you want to keep a guy like Cam, who has done literally nothing for us, Aromashodu, who didn't top 200 yards last year, or Iglasias, who hasn't played a pro snap yet?

Berrian is the safe bet. Iglasias hasn't really impressed a whole lot, Arceneaux I just can't see making the roster at all.
Watching the cowboys game right now. Mcnabb and Berrian actually made a few connects. Cannot see us cutting him even though I hate him.

I'll send you a purple bill in the mail if Berrian gets cut before week 4.
Challenge accepted.

Do you agree to return the favor?

I'll send you a tenner, gonna do the same if you lose?
DEAL.

i_bleed_purple
09-02-2011, 04:35 AM
Interested as to why you think there's no way they'll cut Berrian. I just don't see what he brings to the table, especially considering his cost. I know he restructed his contract, but that was before the emergence of Aromashodu, Iglesias, and Jaymar was apparent. Like most, I just don't get Berrian's allure ... he rarely gets separation and his hands are suspect. I can envision a Bobby Wade-type departure for him.

Considering he was hurt most of last year, and favre had a god-awful year, his previous two years had been decent.

Two seasons ago he had something like 700 yards, the year before almost 1000. Now, not fantastic, but pretty solid for what he is.

Fraizer says he's going to be a huge part of our offense, and as long as he stays healthy, he can be. No, he's not a true #1 guy, not a go-to, but he's a playmaker, something we NEED. He's restructured to a fairly inexpensive contract.

To compare, you want to keep a guy like Cam, who has done literally nothing for us, Aromashodu, who didn't top 200 yards last year, or Iglasias, who hasn't played a pro snap yet?

Berrian is the safe bet. Iglasias hasn't really impressed a whole lot, Arceneaux I just can't see making the roster at all.
Watching the cowboys game right now. Mcnabb and Berrian actually made a few connects. Cannot see us cutting him even though I hate him.

I'll send you a purple bill in the mail if Berrian gets cut before week 4.
Challenge accepted.

Do you agree to return the favor?

I'll send you a tenner, gonna do the same if you lose?
DEAL.

So to clarify, because you assholes love to twist words.

If Bernard Berrian gets cut before week 4, I'll send you $10 in the mail. If he lasts past week 4, you send me $10.

If he gets cut ON week 4? What happens?

i_bleed_purple
09-02-2011, 04:36 AM
Interested as to why you think there's no way they'll cut Berrian. I just don't see what he brings to the table, especially considering his cost. I know he restructed his contract, but that was before the emergence of Aromashodu, Iglesias, and Jaymar was apparent. Like most, I just don't get Berrian's allure ... he rarely gets separation and his hands are suspect. I can envision a Bobby Wade-type departure for him.

Considering he was hurt most of last year, and favre had a god-awful year, his previous two years had been decent.

Two seasons ago he had something like 700 yards, the year before almost 1000. Now, not fantastic, but pretty solid for what he is.

Fraizer says he's going to be a huge part of our offense, and as long as he stays healthy, he can be. No, he's not a true #1 guy, not a go-to, but he's a playmaker, something we NEED. He's restructured to a fairly inexpensive contract.

To compare, you want to keep a guy like Cam, who has done literally nothing for us, Aromashodu, who didn't top 200 yards last year, or Iglasias, who hasn't played a pro snap yet?

Berrian is the safe bet. Iglasias hasn't really impressed a whole lot, Arceneaux I just can't see making the roster at all.
Watching the cowboys game right now. Mcnabb and Berrian actually made a few connects. Cannot see us cutting him even though I hate him.

I'll send you a purple bill in the mail if Berrian gets cut before week 4.
Challenge accepted.

Do you agree to return the favor?

I'll send you a tenner, gonna do the same if you lose?
DEAL.

So to clarify, because you assholes love to twist words.

If Bernard Berrian gets cut before week 4, I'll send you $10 in the mail. If he lasts past week 4, you send me $10.

If he gets cut ON week 4? What happens?
Or do you wanna make it week 4.5

Before, You win, after, I win.

Freakout
09-02-2011, 09:43 PM
QB - Mcnabb, Webb, Ponder (3)

RB - Peterson, Gerhart, Booker (3)

WR - Berrian, Harvin, Jenkins, Aromashudu, Iglesias (5)

TE - Shiancoe, Rudolph, Jimmy, Dugan, Resiner (5)

OT - Johnson, Loadholt, Love (3)

OG - Herrera, Hutchinson, Cook, DeGeare (4)

C - Sullivan, Cooper (2)

DT - Williams, Ayodele, Guion, Evans, Ballard (5)

DE - Allen, Robison, Griffen, Awasom (4)

LB - EJ & Erin, Greenway, Farwell, Onatolu, Dean (6)

CB - Winfeild, Griffin, Cook, Allen, Sherels, Burton (6)

S - Abdullah, Sanford, Frampton, Raymond (4)

LS - Loefller

P - Kluwe

K - Longwell


I expect them to look to the waiver wire for backup linemen and linebacker help.

DeGrease has went from being the potential starter week 1 to a guy third on the depth chart behind Herrera and Cook. He has failed at playing tackle as well.

I do not believe they are satisfied with their linebacker depth at all. You do not start giving reps to a guy like Everson if you are content with your depth and I am sorry but guys Larry Dean and Herron doesn't cut it.

I like D'Imperio as a special teams guy but keeping him isn't worth the risk of losing Resiner, Sherels, or Burton. Though maybe management isn't as high on Burton.

I also like what I have seen from Stylez but with Ballard being able to play inside or outside I can't see them keeping 5 DE's.

I am going with Tyrell Johnson getting cut. Twice now he hasn't been able to take control of the starting job. I think they will cut their loses.

Going to add that I could see Camarillo making it over Iglasias due to his punt return ability. However with the way Musgrave uses heavy tight end sets I can't see Greg getting on the field when instead he could use Shancoe or Rudolph.

61Vikefan
09-02-2011, 09:48 PM
I see that Tristan Davis has been waved. I expect him to be quickly signed by someone else.

http://www.1500espn.com/sportswire/Vikings_begin_to_downsize_roster_waive_running_back_Tristan_Davis090211

gamecocksbaseball31
09-03-2011, 02:35 AM
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/09/02/jaymar-johnson-stylez-g-white-among-early-vikings-cuts/

Jaymar Johnson gets cut. I hate to see it happen. He is a baller. However, this could mean Camarillo is staying, which I love. Just wish we would keep 6.

Harvin
Jenkins
Berrian
Camarillo
Johnson
Aromashudu

HardcoreVikesFan
09-03-2011, 05:35 AM
I wonder if there will be any surprises tomorrow? Hard to say, but I feel there will be at least one tomorrow.

NDVikingFan66
09-03-2011, 05:41 AM
I think I would rather have Johnson than Cam as well. I have not been a huge Cam fan.

Sherrels probably makes the roster now.

Marrdro
09-04-2011, 11:22 AM
For some reason I haven't even tried to work this part yet this year......

Couple of questions:
1. I thought we could keep 54
2. How many are allowed on the PS
3. Can Arcenaux make it to the PS or does his CFL time count against him. I don't think it does.

Couple of factors:
1. I don't see the need for a FB.
2. I am not sure why mix of WR's we will keep. My guess is we will want a couple of PH's, a couple of Jenkins, and maybe 1 BB. Based on some stuff we've seen out of ST's work (returners) I'm not so sure JJ makes the squad this year.

QB:
1. D. McNabb
2. C. Ponder
3. J. Webb

RB
4. A. Peterson
5. T. Gerhart
6. L. Booker

FB – None (See TE’s)

WR
7. P. Harvin
8. M. Jenkins
9. B Berrian (Could be JJ here)
10. J Iglesias (or Aromashodu) Won’t keep both
11. M. Arceneaux (or G. Camarillo if they want more short/fast than they want possession)

TE (No need to keep a FB when Sauce, Dugan and possibly even Reisner can fill that role)
12. V. Shiancoe,
13. J. Kleinsasser
14. K. Rudolph
15. A. Reisner
16. J. Dugan

OT
17. C. Johnson
18. P. Loadholt
19. D. Love
I didn't have Brown

OG

20. S. Hutchinson
21. A. Herrera
22. C. DeGeare
23. R. Cook
I didn't have Olsen


CENTER
24. J. Sullivan
25. B. Fusco (Could be Coop, just not sure at this point)

DE
26. B. Robison
27. J. Allen
28. E. Griffen
29. A. Awasom
30. D. Reed

DT
31. K. Williams
32. R. Ayodele
33. L. Guion
34. C. Ballard
35. Fred Evans (Only makes the roster until K-dubb returns or someone better comes along)

LB
36. EJ Henderson
37. Erin Henderson
38. C. Greenway
39. J. Brinkley
40. L. Dean
41. K. Onatalu

CB
42. A. Winfield
43. C. Griffin
44. C. Cook
45. M. Sherels
46. A. Allen
I didn't have Burton


S
47. H. Abdullah
48. J. Sanford
49. T. Johnson
50. M. Raymond
51. E. Frampton

ST
52. K: R. Longwell
53. P: C. Kluwe
54. LS: C. Loeffler

PS (How many can we keep this year)
J. Cooper
C. King
S. Burton
M. Arceneaux (If he doesn’t make a spot. Not sure if his CFL time makes him ineligible)
T. Welch
S. Olsen
R. Homan
B. Burton
T. Carter

Line throughs are the guys that didn't make the roster. Reds are the ones that did.

Wasn't that far off. Gonna be fun to see who makes the practice squad and if any come back at a cheaper price.

singersp
09-04-2011, 12:26 PM
For some reason I haven't even tried to work this part yet this year......

Couple of questions:
1. I thought we could keep 54
2. How many are allowed on the PS
3. Can Arcenaux make it to the PS or does his CFL time count against him. I don't think it does.

Couple of factors:
1. I don't see the need for a FB.
2. I am not sure why mix of WR's we will keep. My guess is we will want a couple of PH's, a couple of Jenkins, and maybe 1 BB. Based on some stuff we've seen out of ST's work (returners) I'm not so sure JJ makes the squad this year.

QB:
1. D. McNabb
2. C. Ponder
3. J. Webb

RB
4. A. Peterson
5. T. Gerhart
6. L. Booker

FB – None (See TE’s)

WR
7. P. Harvin
8. M. Jenkins
9. B Berrian (Could be JJ here)
10. J Iglesias (or Aromashodu) Won’t keep both
11. M. Arceneaux (or G. Camarillo if they want more short/fast than they want possession)

TE (No need to keep a FB when Sauce, Dugan and possibly even Reisner can fill that role)
12. V. Shiancoe,
13. J. Kleinsasser
14. K. Rudolph
15. A. Reisner
16. J. Dugan

OT
17. C. Johnson
18. P. Loadholt
19. D. Love
I didn't have Brown

OG

20. S. Hutchinson
21. A. Herrera
22. C. DeGeare
23. R. Cook
I didn't have Olsen


CENTER
24. J. Sullivan
25. B. Fusco (Could be Coop, just not sure at this point)

DE
26. B. Robison
27. J. Allen
28. E. Griffen
29. A. Awasom
30. D. Reed

DT
31. K. Williams
32. R. Ayodele
33. L. Guion
34. C. Ballard
35. Fred Evans (Only makes the roster until K-dubb returns or someone better comes along)

LB
36. EJ Henderson
37. Erin Henderson
38. C. Greenway
39. J. Brinkley
40. L. Dean
41. K. Onatalu

CB
42. A. Winfield
43. C. Griffin
44. C. Cook
45. M. Sherels
46. A. Allen
I didn't have Burton


S
47. H. Abdullah
48. J. Sanford
49. T. Johnson
50. M. Raymond
51. E. Frampton

ST
52. K: R. Longwell
53. P: C. Kluwe
54. LS: C. Loeffler

PS (How many can we keep this year)
J. Cooper
C. King
S. Burton
M. Arceneaux (If he doesn’t make a spot. Not sure if his CFL time makes him ineligible)
T. Welch
S. Olsen
R. Homan
B. Burton
T. Carter

Line throughs are the guys that didn't make the roster. Reds are the ones that did.

Wasn't that far off. Gonna be fun to see who makes the practice squad and if any come back at a cheaper price.

Still don't understand the need to keep 5 safety's to cover 1 position on the field (FS or SS) & only 5 LB's to cover 3 positions on the field.

Is Dean or Onatolu even capable of playing MLB?

Marrdro
09-04-2011, 11:51 PM
Still don't understand the need to keep 5 safety's to cover 1 position on the field (FS or SS) & only 5 LB's to cover 3 positions on the field.

Is Dean or Onatolu even capable of playing MLB?
I can understand the S's. For the life of me I can't understand 3 C's.

Maybe its cause they are going to adjust things based on the players.....(Sarcism thingie)

singersp
09-05-2011, 01:29 AM
Still don't understand the need to keep 5 safety's to cover 1 position on the field (FS or SS) & only 5 LB's to cover 3 positions on the field.

Is Dean or Onatolu even capable of playing MLB?
I can understand the S's. For the life of me I can't understand 3 C's.

Maybe its cause they are going to adjust things based on the players.....(Sarcism thingie)

They already have. They brought someone in to teach the OL that can actually teach, rather than a buddy of the coaches who couldn't.

Then they trashed the old scheme & brought in a new one.

Then they adjusted Ryan Cook's & Bryant McKinnie's asses right out of Minnesota.

But you thought our OL & the old scheme were just fine last year.


Frazier brought in a new offensive line coach, Jeff Davidson, to install a more aggressive, straight-forward blocking system than the zone scheme that was used in previous years.

Read more: http://www.seattlepi.com/sports/article/Vikings-line-needs-more-time-in-new-scheme-2121626.php#ixzz1X2Mw8rCC

Marrdro
09-05-2011, 02:01 AM
Still don't understand the need to keep 5 safety's to cover 1 position on the field (FS or SS) & only 5 LB's to cover 3 positions on the field.

Is Dean or Onatolu even capable of playing MLB?
I can understand the S's. For the life of me I can't understand 3 C's.

Maybe its cause they are going to adjust things based on the players.....(Sarcism thingie)

They already have. They brought someone in to teach the OL that can actually teach, rather than a buddy of the coaches who couldn't.

Then they trashed the old scheme & brought in a new one.

Then they adjusted Ryan Cook's & Bryant McKinnie's asses right out of Minnesota.

But you thought our OL & the old scheme were just fine last year.


Frazier brought in a new offensive line coach, Jeff Davidson, to install a more aggressive, straight-forward blocking system than the zone scheme that was used in previous years.

Read more: http://www.seattlepi.com/sports/article/Vikings-line-needs-more-time-in-new-scheme-2121626.php#ixzz1X2Mw8rCC
I thought so, just like the stats guy did. 13th isn't as bad as you make it out to be.

And just in case your wondering, they haven't changed the blocking scheme. Even Mayock said so in the last game.;)