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Purplepundit
11-02-2010, 07:57 PM
Randy Moss Was Right To Berate Catering, Says Concerned Amateur Meat Expert
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A veritable warming tray firestorm erupted over Randy Moss complaining about the quality of the food served at a post-practice buffet. A devoted reader put on his deerstalker cap and dove into the sordid world of cut-rate carving boards.

During the buffet they served the lowest grade of beef there is, according to cooking.com: tough and lean. For $5 more a person they could have had Prime Rib. For $7 more they could have had tenderloin. Moss didn't complain until he got to the carving station.
According to the St Paul Pioneer Press:
"[Moss] came walking up," Tinucci said. "There were a couple of guys that were in line. I knew Brett [Favre] put his helmet down. I met him carving. I was carving some meat for a guy and all of a sudden I heard all this screaming and I was like, 'Are you kidding me?' I knew who it was immediately. I looked up and there he was. [Moss said], 'I wouldn't feed this [expletive] to my [expletive] dog.' (continued)

http://deadspin.com/5679937/randy-moss-was-right-to-berate-catering-says-concerned-amateur-meat-expert

El Vikingo
11-02-2010, 08:15 PM
this is so fucking great

Infidel
11-02-2010, 08:25 PM
Well, there's a recession on.

Of course, you can expect these catering bloodsuckers to serve cheap beef.

They probably think football players are hungry enough to eat anything.

Damn good thing somebody called them out.

Favre, of course, is dumb enough to play with a broken ankle, so we can't judge by him.

:D

singersp
11-02-2010, 09:02 PM
Well hell! That changes everything since an amateur meat expert said it.

Infidel
11-02-2010, 09:19 PM
So inferior meat lost us Moss and ended any hope for a winning season.

The football sure do bounce in some unexpected and strange ways.

:)

El Vikingo
11-02-2010, 09:29 PM
http://www.tinuccis.com/

They also provide buffets for funerals

jrjohn
11-02-2010, 10:05 PM
I ate at the casino a couple weeks ago, they had carved round of beef, exactly the cut like the Vikings were served.
It's fantastic when sliced thin, very little fat, high in protein. Exactly what you would eat when building and maintaing mussle. I'm guessing that Randy is used to eating high fat cuts of meat such as prime rib, ribeye, ribs, Extremely unhealty.

Mr Anderson
11-02-2010, 10:33 PM
jrjohn wrote:

I ate at the casino a couple weeks ago, they had carved round of beef, exactly the cut like the Vikings were served.
It's fantastic when sliced thin, very little fat, high in protein. Exactly what you would eat when building and maintaing mussle. I'm guessing that Randy is used to eating high fat cuts of meat such as prime rib, ribeye, ribs, Extremely unhealty.
You're right.

His diet compared with his already unhealthy weight, sedentary lifestyle, and inactive job are really putting him at risk.


He probably wouldn't have complained about it if they'd just let him smoke weed before the meal.

BadlandsVikings
11-02-2010, 10:42 PM
Well webby ban us if we yell at him how he cooks at the tailgates?

DiehardVikesFan
11-02-2010, 11:38 PM
Maybe I'm not a pampered pompous asshole, but I wouldn't complain about eating that. Actually, they could serve dog and I still wouldn't throw a temper tantrum. I know three year olds with enough common courtesy not to start cussing and screaming if they don't like something.

I'm not even sure if that's supposed to be a joke or not.

AngloVike
11-03-2010, 04:41 AM
BadlandsVikings wrote:

Well webby ban us if we yell at him how he cooks at the tailgates?

no but he may hogtie you, baste your butt in chilli oil and throw you on the BBQ :laugh:

El Vikingo
11-03-2010, 06:32 AM
DiehardVikesFan wrote:


I'm not even sure if that's supposed to be a joke or not.

Do you mean this thread or the Vikings situation?
In both cases ,yes.

Zeus
11-03-2010, 09:20 AM
BadlandsVikings wrote:

Well webby ban us if we yell at him how he cooks at the tailgates?

NDVikingFan cooked at the last tailgate and Neum did most of the cooking earlier this year. Webby's too busy being a bigshot in the press box.

=Z=

12purplepride28
11-04-2010, 12:11 AM
http://purplejesus.files.wordpress.com/2010/11/tenucci-rich-raven.jpg

ManBearPig
11-04-2010, 09:15 AM
12purplepride28 wrote:

http://purplejesus.files.wordpress.com/2010/11/tenucci-rich-raven.jpg

:)

Infidel
11-04-2010, 09:26 AM
What people don't see about this is that it was not about the food.

It was just another way of showing displeasure with the disrespect Childress and other authority figures were showing Moss.

It was a way of lashing out at the bosses.

Simple as that.

"Who ordered this shit?"

El Vikingo
11-04-2010, 09:43 AM
Infidel wrote:

What people don't see about this is that it was not about the food.

It was just another way of showing displeasure with the disrespect Childress and other authority figures were showing Moss.


"Who ordered this shit?"

Really?? I thought if ,I donīt know Kluwe for instance,hadnīt liked the meat at all he would have said the same who ordered this crap...

I just though it is casuality the one who disliked the meat was Moss and he just said it,thanks for the heads up

Caine
11-04-2010, 09:51 AM
Regardless of whether is was a collection of cow assholes or tenderloin, Randy should NOT have gone off like he did. It wasn't a "Class" move, and I'm pretty sure taht he knows that.

On the other hand...

Do you cut a player because he went overboard on a caterer?

Not bloody likely.

If you're a REAL coach, you pull that player into your office and you say, "Look, I get that you didn't like the food, but that was way out of line. If you have a repeat of that type of performance, I'll fine you for it. You don't have to eat the food, but keep your opinions about it to yourself. Clear?"

If you're Childress, You say, "What?!?!? He didn't like the baloney sandwiches?!?!?!?! Waive him!! Waive him now I tell you!!! Worship me!!! I am the Chillinator!!! I have a KAO!!!!!"

...or something to that effect.

Caine

ejmat
11-04-2010, 09:52 AM
El Vikingo wrote:

Infidel wrote:

What people don't see about this is that it was not about the food.

It was just another way of showing displeasure with the disrespect Childress and other authority figures were showing Moss.


"Who ordered this shit?"

Really?? I thought if ,I donīt know Kluwe for instance,hadnīt liked the meat at all he would have said the same who ordered this crap...

I just though it is casuality the one who disliked the meat was Moss and he just said it,thanks for the heads up

Apparently, Infidel knows what everyone is thinking and why they do things. I wish I had those powers. I missed out!

Marrdro
11-04-2010, 10:04 AM
Infidel wrote:

What people don't see about this is that it was not about the food.

It was just another way of showing displeasure with the disrespect Childress and other authority figures were showing Moss.

It was a way of lashing out at the bosses.

Simple as that.

"Who ordered this shit?"
WOW, you are really reaching aren't you.

What you don't see in all of this is that it wasn't about the food or that he showed displeasure with the coaches, but how he showed displeasure.

Like a little punk, instead of confronting the "Men" in charge, he lashed out at some poor helpless caterer for goodness sake.

Simple as that.

Were is my good friend Prophet. He needs to start another Meow thread and it needs to be called PatsRandy is a Meow.

Marrdro
11-04-2010, 10:08 AM
ejmat wrote:


Apparently, Infidel knows what everyone is thinking and why they do things. I wish I had those powers. I missed out!
LOL. Ole Infidel is a font of wisdom BS.

Did you see were he tried to say that PatsRandy was lashing out at the boss when he yelled at the caterer.

How big is PatsRandy? Probably alot bigger than the poor dude cutting the steak.

Guy should have cut him. ;)

Caine
11-04-2010, 10:22 AM
Marrdro wrote:

Infidel wrote:

What people don't see about this is that it was not about the food.

It was just another way of showing displeasure with the disrespect Childress and other authority figures were showing Moss.

It was a way of lashing out at the bosses.

Simple as that.

"Who ordered this shit?"
WOW, you are really reaching aren't you.

What you don't see in all of this is that it wasn't about the food or that he showed displeasure with the coaches, but how he showed displeasure.

Like a little punk, instead of confronting the "Men" in charge, he lashed out at some poor helpless caterer for goodness sake.

Simple as that.

Were is my good friend Prophet. He needs to start another Meow thread and it needs to be called PatsRandy is a Meow.

And while I agree that it was about teh HOW, I DISAGREE that Chiller handled it well either.

Did he "Coach up" and confront Randy on the issue?

Did he "Coach up" and try and correct the problem from within?

Did he "Coach up" and try to put behavioral boundaries on Moss?

NOPE.

He fired him...

...via the Press...


...because Childress' EGO can't take any kind of confrontation.

CHILLER is the problem here. Had he done his JOB and tried to be a COACH and a LEADER, this wouldn't have become an issue.

But because he's a failure as a coach, he needed something he could spin to justify his idiocy...and you bought it.

Caine

Marrdro
11-04-2010, 10:33 AM
Caine wrote:

Marrdro wrote:

Infidel wrote:

What people don't see about this is that it was not about the food.

It was just another way of showing displeasure with the disrespect Childress and other authority figures were showing Moss.

It was a way of lashing out at the bosses.

Simple as that.

"Who ordered this shit?"
WOW, you are really reaching aren't you.

What you don't see in all of this is that it wasn't about the food or that he showed displeasure with the coaches, but how he showed displeasure.

Like a little punk, instead of confronting the "Men" in charge, he lashed out at some poor helpless caterer for goodness sake.

Simple as that.

Were is my good friend Prophet. He needs to start another Meow thread and it needs to be called PatsRandy is a Meow.

And while I agree that it was about teh HOW, I DISAGREE that Chiller handled it well either.

Did he "Coach up" and confront Randy on the issue?

Did he "Coach up" and try and correct the problem from within?

Did he "Coach up" and try to put behavioral boundaries on Moss?

NOPE.

He fired him...

...via the Press...


...because Childress' EGO can't take any kind of confrontation.

CHILLER is the problem here. Had he done his JOB and tried to be a COACH and a LEADER, this wouldn't have become an issue.

But because he's a failure as a coach, he needed something he could spin to justify his idiocy...and you bought it.

Caine
So let me get this straight.

The HC didn't handle the problem child correctly so he should be fired?

Not sure my friend, but I believe professional players should be held to a higher standard. Knowing what he should do as a professional starts with the player in this instance not the coach.

If the player had a problem, he should have approached the coach, instead of throwing a fit like a little kid.

I think someone bought something here but it wasn't me digging into my wallet my friend.

On a side note, how about TJ.......1 TD pass, 1 2 PT conversion pass, 1 nice scramble when the same ass of a player couldn't get open cause he wasn't trying.

I'm starting to tast the beer now. :laugh:

ejmat
11-04-2010, 10:47 AM
Marrdro wrote:

Caine wrote:

Marrdro wrote:

Infidel wrote:

What people don't see about this is that it was not about the food.

It was just another way of showing displeasure with the disrespect Childress and other authority figures were showing Moss.

It was a way of lashing out at the bosses.

Simple as that.

"Who ordered this shit?"
WOW, you are really reaching aren't you.

What you don't see in all of this is that it wasn't about the food or that he showed displeasure with the coaches, but how he showed displeasure.

Like a little punk, instead of confronting the "Men" in charge, he lashed out at some poor helpless caterer for goodness sake.

Simple as that.

Were is my good friend Prophet. He needs to start another Meow thread and it needs to be called PatsRandy is a Meow.

And while I agree that it was about teh HOW, I DISAGREE that Chiller handled it well either.

Did he "Coach up" and confront Randy on the issue?

Did he "Coach up" and try and correct the problem from within?

Did he "Coach up" and try to put behavioral boundaries on Moss?

NOPE.

He fired him...

...via the Press...


...because Childress' EGO can't take any kind of confrontation.

CHILLER is the problem here. Had he done his JOB and tried to be a COACH and a LEADER, this wouldn't have become an issue.

But because he's a failure as a coach, he needed something he could spin to justify his idiocy...and you bought it.

Caine
So let me get this straight.

The HC didn't handle the problem child correctly so he should be fired?

Not sure my friend, but I believe professional players should be held to a higher standard. Knowing what he should do as a professional starts with the player in this instance not the coach.

If the player had a problem, he should have approached the coach, instead of throwing a fit like a little kid.

I think someone bought something here but it wasn't me digging into my wallet my friend.

On a side note, how about TJ.......1 TD pass, 1 2 PT conversion pass, 1 nice scramble when the same ass of a player couldn't get open cause he wasn't trying.

I'm starting to tast the beer now. :laugh:

I don't think either is innocent here. Randy was being stupid. No doubt. I won't give the ole "Randy was being Randy" BS. Randy didn't do that in NE so he shouldn't have done that here. By now he should know right and wrong.

OTOH, Chilly totally mishandled this. I can understand not wanting a cancer. I can even go with the point I don't think Randy has been playing to full potential. What I don't understand is the lack of coaching here. Chilly did nothing to try and help the situation. I guess he did say he tried to call Randy after the presser but what about after the food incident? Did he talk to him after that? My guess is no. Childress handled this situation terribly. He made a knee jerk reaction. From what I've read he has the right to do this. That's fine. But don't you think with all the situations surrounding this (i.e. how much Wilf wanted Randy, how much the QB wanted Randy, how much Harvin wanted Randy, the 3rd round pick, etc...) you would think he would have consulted with ownership first. He did not. That is the bottom line and why Childress is to blame irregardless as to if it was the right or wrong decision. Not very good leadership in this case!

Caine
11-04-2010, 10:50 AM
Marrdro wrote:

Caine wrote:

Marrdro wrote:

Infidel wrote:

What people don't see about this is that it was not about the food.

It was just another way of showing displeasure with the disrespect Childress and other authority figures were showing Moss.

It was a way of lashing out at the bosses.

Simple as that.

"Who ordered this shit?"
WOW, you are really reaching aren't you.

What you don't see in all of this is that it wasn't about the food or that he showed displeasure with the coaches, but how he showed displeasure.

Like a little punk, instead of confronting the "Men" in charge, he lashed out at some poor helpless caterer for goodness sake.

Simple as that.

Were is my good friend Prophet. He needs to start another Meow thread and it needs to be called PatsRandy is a Meow.

And while I agree that it was about teh HOW, I DISAGREE that Chiller handled it well either.

Did he "Coach up" and confront Randy on the issue?

Did he "Coach up" and try and correct the problem from within?

Did he "Coach up" and try to put behavioral boundaries on Moss?

NOPE.

He fired him...

...via the Press...


...because Childress' EGO can't take any kind of confrontation.

CHILLER is the problem here. Had he done his JOB and tried to be a COACH and a LEADER, this wouldn't have become an issue.

But because he's a failure as a coach, he needed something he could spin to justify his idiocy...and you bought it.

Caine
So let me get this straight.

The HC didn't handle the problem child correctly so he should be fired?

Not sure my friend, but I believe professional players should be held to a higher standard. Knowing what he should do as a professional starts with the player in this instance not the coach.

If the player had a problem, he should have approached the coach, instead of throwing a fit like a little kid.

I think someone bought something here but it wasn't me digging into my wallet my friend.

On a side note, how about TJ.......1 TD pass, 1 2 PT conversion pass, 1 nice scramble when the same ass of a player couldn't get open cause he wasn't trying.

I'm starting to tast the beer now. :laugh:

So, because Moss went overboard with a caterer, we should can him.

Does that mean we can Favre for his texts? Aren't those a bigger issue? And doesn't HE divide the team against Chiller too?

How about McKinney and his "Clubbing" issues? He's been disruptive in the past. Shouldn't we have cut him?

The caterer story is a smoke screen to cover up the fact that Chiller couldn't COACH his way out of a wet paper sack.

Did he TRY and correct the issue from within? Nope.
Did he TRY and set boundaries? Nope.
Did he TRY and COACH and be a leader of men? Nope.

He fired the guy in a team meeting, when Moss wasn't even there. He took the COWARDS way out.

No one disputes that Moss went overboard on the caterer...but you don't cut him for that. This is a smoke screen to cover up Chiller incompetence.

REGARDING JACKSON:

The TD pass that Favre set up for him was nice. So was the 2-point conversion. The run was a little less impressive since New England was in Prevent, and the entire middle was wide open.

But with 59 seconds left, why are you throwing to Shiancoe in the MIDDLE of the FIELD?!?!?!? Then the dump off to Gerhardt? We won't even mention the two Inc's...

...I'm not seeing anything "Starter worthy" here...

Free beer...my favorite kind.

Caine

jargomcfargo
11-04-2010, 10:56 AM
Marrdro wrote:

Infidel wrote:

What people don't see about this is that it was not about the food.

It was just another way of showing displeasure with the disrespect Childress and other authority figures were showing Moss.

It was a way of lashing out at the bosses.

Simple as that.

"Who ordered this shit?"
WOW, you are really reaching aren't you.

What you don't see in all of this is that it wasn't about the food or that he showed displeasure with the coaches, but how he showed displeasure.

Like a little punk, instead of confronting the "Men" in charge, he lashed out at some poor helpless caterer for goodness sake.

Simple as that.

Were is my good friend Prophet. He needs to start another Meow thread and it needs to be called PatsRandy is a Meow.

Prophet suffered a head injury and now calls himself 'Infidel'!

Infidel
11-04-2010, 11:19 AM
Mardro said:


Did you see were he tried to say that PatsRandy was lashing out at the boss when he yelled at the caterer.

Yes, I said it and I'm correct.

He didn't yell at the caterer, did he?

No, he did not.

He said, "Who ordered this shit?"

He was talking to the bosses.

Now, you can deny it all you want, but it just shows you don't know any more about this than you know about Favre, or Moss or the O-Line, or (my personal fave) your priceless claim that Adrian Peterson is the greatest back to play the game.

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

Keep it coming, my friend.

Infidel
11-04-2010, 11:21 AM
Caine said:


The TD pass that Favre set up for him was nice.

I think Moss actually set that up by drawing a penalty.

Let's call it Moss and Favre.

:D

V4L
11-04-2010, 11:35 AM
Infidel wrote:

Mardro said:


Did you see were he tried to say that PatsRandy was lashing out at the boss when he yelled at the caterer.

Yes, I said it and I'm correct.

He didn't yell at the caterer, did he?

No, he did not.

He said, "Who ordered this shit?"

He was talking to the bosses.

Now, you can deny it all you want, but it just shows you don't know any more about this than you know about Favre, or Moss or the O-Line, or (my personal fave) your priceless claim that Adrian Peterson is the greatest back to play the game.

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

Keep it coming, my friend.


From what i've read he did yell

And it wasn't just "who ordered this shit"?

Also said "I wouldn't feed this to my dog"

I'm not sure about you but if im having issues with my boss and we go out to eat I don't yell at my server to show my displeasure

Both were wrong here..

Infidel
11-04-2010, 12:04 PM
He never yelled at the server.

Not once.

You just have your facts wrong.

He was complaining about the people who ordered the food....he did not once attack the caterer, he only complained about the CHOICE of that food......

And that CHOICE was made by who?

The Vikings Management.

Those are the facts.....you and Mardro can try to twist them as you will, but you will fail.

V4L
11-04-2010, 12:09 PM
Infidel wrote:

He never yelled at the server.

Not once.

You just have your facts wrong.

He was complaining about the people who ordered the food....he did not once attack the caterer, he only complained about the CHOICE of that food......

And that CHOICE was made by who?

The Vikings Management.

Those are the facts.....you and Mardro can try to twist them as you will, but you will fail.


Tinucci's co-owner Gus Tinucci said today. "(Moss) he comes in, and I'm helping one of the guys and didn't look up, and all of a sudden I heard, 'What the (expletive) is this? I wouldn't feed this (expletive expletive) to my (expletive) dog!' And he's screaming it at the top of his lungs.


So he didn't yell DIRECTLY at him.. He did yell... So you can quit saying that

So once again.. Idk about you but if i'm angry at my boss I don't start screaming about how shitty my food is

V4L
11-04-2010, 12:20 PM
And the bosses weren't even there.. He wasn't talking to them

He didn't like the looks of the food.. He started yelling and walked away.. Didn't eat

He wasn't lashing out at the bosses.. He was just being a bitch.. Simple as that

I wouldn't call that twisting.. That's the facts

Infidel
11-04-2010, 12:29 PM
Like I said, he never yelled at the caterer.

There's no way that Moss could have even known the caterer was among the employees on site anyway. How would he know?

He couldn't. And yes, he was yelling at the bosses. He knew damned well they would hear about it quick.....and that's exactly what he wanted.

The silly notion that he was yelling at the caterer is too weak to even merit a response.

He CLEARLY said, "WHO ORDERED THIS SHIT?"

Now....think hard.....concentrate......did the caterer order the food?

Duh.

dfosterf
11-04-2010, 12:34 PM
"WHO ORDERED THIS SHIT???!!!" is what PPO members should have been saying when the 3rd went to Bellicheat for Randy.

ejmat
11-04-2010, 12:47 PM
Infidel wrote:

Like I said, he never yelled at the caterer.

There's no way that Moss could have even known the caterer was among the employees on site anyway. How would he know?

He couldn't. And yes, he was yelling at the bosses. He knew damned well they would hear about it quick.....and that's exactly what he wanted.

The silly notion that he was yelling at the caterer is too weak to even merit a response.

He CLEARLY said, "WHO ORDERED THIS SHIT?"

Now....think hard.....concentrate......did the caterer order the food?

Duh.

The point is this. Moss acted like a bitch in this situation. Who cares if the owner was there or if it were just workers. From what I understand it wasn't the first time this same company did this for the Vikings. It doesn't matter who ordered it. It doesn't matter if it were free or $7 a pop. The point is Moss acted rudely and childish.

Other players had also stated they actually enjoyed the food. It's Moss' option not to eat it but it is also his duty to keep it to himself and act like a freaking adult. He didn't.

Now, where Childress went wrong was he didn't address it. He didn't address the "unhappiness" of Moss with the play calling. That is what a good coach would do. But that has nothing to do with the food. If Moss was unhappy with the playalling he could also take the "adult" route and go speak to Childress in a professional manner. At 30 something you would think he could act professionally. However, Childress made a knee jerk reacction and I agree with Caine it was also cowardly to fire him like he did.

Neither is right here. But I would much rather have Moss than I would Childress. Childress should take much of the blame onhow things panned out. But he is not to blame for Randy's antics. He's an adult and should take sole responsibility. Enough said!

vike_mike
11-04-2010, 01:38 PM
Randy set this up, and it is simple as that. He's thinking that the best or only way to get out of Minnesota is to do something where he won't necessarily get fined or suspended, but will just anger the HC beyond repair is degrade the buffet and go on about how he misses the Pats. Well he got his way. But unfortunately, Childress looks even worse than he did before he made the trade. Now he has hindered the new HC for next year by us not having a 3rd round pick. Very frustrating to say the least.

V4L
11-04-2010, 01:40 PM
Infidel wrote:

Like I said, he never yelled at the caterer.

There's no way that Moss could have even known the caterer was among the employees on site anyway. How would he know?

He couldn't. And yes, he was yelling at the bosses. He knew damned well they would hear about it quick.....and that's exactly what he wanted.

The silly notion that he was yelling at the caterer is too weak to even merit a response.

He CLEARLY said, "WHO ORDERED THIS SHIT?"

Now....think hard.....concentrate......did the caterer order the food?

Duh.


No he NEVER said "who ordered this shit" Show me a quote and prove me wrong and i'll shut up

If he didn't know the guy serving the damn food was an employee he's an effing idiot.. That's the dumbest thing I believe you've said on here

You're right you never said he yelled AT the caterer.. That was my mistake.. But he did yell and acted like a bitch.. Which was my point

And you mention twisting.. YOU are the only one making up things that he was "sticking it the bosses" so to speak.. He didn't yell at the bosses like you said who weren't even there.. And saying quotes he didn't say

You are just looking too deep into it.. He was acting like a bitch.. yelling.. Didn't eat.. and that was it.. he was just being who he is.. Not making a statement or anything of that nature

So show me the quote where he said this.. And i'll shut up... Til then back up your silly claim

Traveling_Vike
11-04-2010, 02:01 PM
This whole thing was just a series of major overreactions on both Childress's and Moss's part.

It started the week before the game, when the media were pumping up the issue of Moss giving the Vikings info about the Patriots' tendencies and preferences.

Moss tried to do just that, and was blown off. Bad move by Childress, thinking he knows more about another team than a guy who was just playing for them a few weeks earlier. Just another example of how his ego drives him. He has to win his way, or not at all.

So... Randy reacts by dogging it in the game, and then praising the Pats afterward. Bad move by Moss. Unprofessional and childish. While there is nothing wrong with praising an opponent (it happens all the time, in case people forgot that) Randy was a bit over-effusive. The real issue was his poor effort in the game, which deserved some sort of punishment.

So... Childress fumes and decides he needs to waive the "cancer". Bad move. Major overreaction. Talk to the guy, let him no in no uncertain terms that this sort of behavior is unacceptable. If he doesn't get it, then fine him, sit him, even suspend him for a game or two. But don't cut him. As bad as you think his behavior is, you have to give him at least one chance to improve.

Meanwhile, there was that whole "staying in Boston with permission" thing. Why was he given permission BY CHILDRESS if Childress was so upset with him? Denying that would have been a much more appropriate punishment at the time.

So... then come the catering incident. Randy the child is still upset about being blown off during the week. Either Childress talked to him about the presser (in which case he probably got more angry) or he didn't (in which case he probably got resentful of the lack of attention). He lashes out again, with the food as an excuse. Bad move, major overreaction and in front of the wrong people. Whether or not he was speaking to the caterer, he still insulted the company in front of its employees. That's a big no-no.

So... Childress is now convinced he was right and Randy needs to go, so he announces it as a fait accompli when in fact it is not. Bad move. Stupid emotional escalated knee-jerk backlash overreaction. I still don't know why Childress announced it to the team when it wasn't actually done yet. Was it a threat? A power play? Or did he actually think he had done it and just forgot some paperwork? In any case, still a bad move.

I'm surprised, in fact, that Randy didn't take it even further at that point. Maybe his agent reined him in. Maybe he didn't hear until much later. Maybe it really was his idea all along. Who knows?

In the end, everyone involved fucked this up horrendously. Now it is up to the players to move on and pull together. What happens to Childress is out of their control. All they can do is suck it up and play to the best of their ability. Let's hope that they are wise enough to see it that way.

Flidais
11-04-2010, 02:11 PM
What entertains me about the entire situation is this big bad football player yelling at the common man bullshit. As if the common man doesn't treat the common man standing next to him like shit on a regular basis.

Should Randy have melted down and directed his meltdown towards the food instead of what was actually bothering him? Of course not. But everyone's done it.

Over my years of working with the public, it'd be a thrill to get something as mild as "I wouldn't feed this shit to my dog." Once upon a time, I worked at a local public library. I had a stapler chucked at my head when I told someone they had a $5 fine. I interned for a while for a Senator and had turn answering phones. I'm the daughter of an old Navy man and still I learned new curse words there from the lovely C-span watchers. I now work as a statistician on a survey about payroll. Last February, we took call after call after call listening to people just scream at us because they hadn't gotten their w-2s. Point 1: We're a survey about payroll, not a human resource office. We kinda can't do shit for you. Point 2: Since when does the people who are low enough on the totem pole to be answering phone calls have the power to actually fix things? What's that you say? Never? But yet you curse up a storm ten minutes straight at the poor sucker who happened to pick up the line.

And on and on and on (those are just a few of my favorite "Flidais's moments with the crappy public" stories). I'd sell my soul to get the word shit yelled in my general direction.

I've done it; you've done it; the caterer has done it. And yet, all of a sudden, Randy Moss deserves to be fired from his job because he had a meltdown? Good lord, we're a bunch of hypocrites.

midgensa
11-04-2010, 02:17 PM
Flidais wrote:

What entertains me about the entire situation is this big bad football player yelling at the common man bullshit. As if the common man doesn't treat the common man standing next to him like shit on a regular basis.

Should Randy have melted down and directed his meltdown towards the food instead of what was actually bothering him? Of course not. But everyone's done it.

Over my years of working with the public, it'd be a thrill to get something as mild as "I wouldn't feed this shit to my dog." Once upon a time, I worked at a local public library. I had a stapler chucked at my head when I told someone they had a $5 fine. I interned for a while for a Senator and had turn answering phones. I'm the daughter of an old Navy man and still I learned new curse words there from the lovely C-span watchers. I now work as a statistician on a survey about payroll. Last February, we took call after call after call listening to people just scream at us because they hadn't gotten their w-2s. Point 1: We're a survey about payroll, not a human resource office. We kinda can't do shit for you. Point 2: Since when does the people who are low enough on the totem pole to be answering phone calls have the power to actually fix things? What's that you say? Never? But yet you curse up a storm ten minutes straight at the poor sucker who happened to pick up the line.

And on and on and on (those are just a few of my favorite "Flidais's moments with the crappy public" stories). I'd sell my soul to get the word shit yelled in my general direction.

I've done it; you've done it; the caterer has done it. And yet, all of a sudden, Randy Moss deserves to be fired from his job because he had a meltdown? Good lord, we're a bunch of hypocrites.
This difference is Randy Moss does it on a regular basis.

He would not have been released over this if not for his rant on Sunday evening tacked on.

And by the way ... if I had a meltdown like that at work I would ABSOLUTELY be fired ... no ifs ands or buts, and I have been one of the most productive guys here for 5+ years.

marshallvike
11-04-2010, 02:35 PM
Traveling_Vike wrote:

This whole thing was just a series of major overreactions on both Childress's and Moss's part.

It started the week before the game, when the media were pumping up the issue of Moss giving the Vikings info about the Patriots' tendencies and preferences.

Moss tried to do just that, and was blown off. Bad move by Childress, thinking he knows more about another team than a guy who was just playing for them a few weeks earlier. Just another example of how his ego drives him. He has to win his way, or not at all.

So... Randy reacts by dogging it in the game, and then praising the Pats afterward. Bad move by Moss. Unprofessional and childish. While there is nothing wrong with praising an opponent (it happens all the time, in case people forgot that) Randy was a bit over-effusive. The real issue was his poor effort in the game, which deserved some sort of punishment.

So... Childress fumes and decides he needs to waive the "cancer". Bad move. Major overreaction. Talk to the guy, let him no in no uncertain terms that this sort of behavior is unacceptable. If he doesn't get it, then fine him, sit him, even suspend him for a game or two. But don't cut him. As bad as you think his behavior is, you have to give him at least one chance to improve.

Meanwhile, there was that whole "staying in Boston with permission" thing. Why was he given permission BY CHILDRESS if Childress was so upset with him? Denying that would have been a much more appropriate punishment at the time.

So... then come the catering incident. Randy the child is still upset about being blown off during the week. Either Childress talked to him about the presser (in which case he probably got more angry) or he didn't (in which case he probably got resentful of the lack of attention). He lashes out again, with the food as an excuse. Bad move, major overreaction and in front of the wrong people. Whether or not he was speaking to the caterer, he still insulted the company in front of its employees. That's a big no-no.

So... Childress is now convinced he was right and Randy needs to go, so he announces it as a fait accompli when in fact it is not. Bad move. Stupid emotional escalated knee-jerk backlash overreaction. I still don't know why Childress announced it to the team when it wasn't actually done yet. Was it a threat? A power play? Or did he actually think he had done it and just forgot some paperwork? In any case, still a bad move.

I'm surprised, in fact, that Randy didn't take it even further at that point. Maybe his agent reined him in. Maybe he didn't hear until much later. Maybe it really was his idea all along. Who knows?

In the end, everyone involved fucked this up horrendously. Now it is up to the players to move on and pull together. What happens to Childress is out of their control. All they can do is suck it up and play to the best of their ability. Let's hope that they are wise enough to see it that way.

excellent post TV. ( I do think he announced it to the team first as a courtesy before it was done, although it sounds like the team wasn't too happy with the move)

marshallvike
11-04-2010, 03:04 PM
They served round steak? No wonder Randy complained. I don't serve that shit to my dogs either. :laugh:

Caine
11-05-2010, 12:26 PM
Having Randy Moss criticize their food has been the best thing in the world for Tinnuci's.

http://www.twincities.com/sports/ci_16532216?nclick_check=1

They're milking the coverage for every nickle it's worth.

Personally, I'll never darken their doorstep.

Caine

ILLvike
11-05-2010, 01:41 PM
Caine wrote:

Having Randy Moss criticize their food has been the best thing in the world for Tinnuci's.

http://www.twincities.com/sports/ci_16532216?nclick_check=1

They're milking the coverage for every nickle it's worth.

Personally, I'll never darken their doorstep.

Caine

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/football/nfl/11/04/randy-moss-restaurant.ap/index.html

No freakin kidding Caine